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APPEALS BOARD
MEMBERS
CHARLES GRIGONIS, JR., Chairman
SERGE DOYEN, JR.
TERRY TUTHI LL
ROBERT J. DOUGLASS
Gerard P. Goehringer
SOUTHOLD, L. I., N.Y. 1]971
TELEPHONE (516) 765-1809
MINUTES
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS
APRIL 10, 1980
A regular meeting of the Southo!d Town Board of Appeals was
held on Thursday, April 10, 1980, at 7:30 o'clock P.M. at the
Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York 11971.
Present were: Charles Grigonis, Jr., Chairman, Terry R.
Tuthill; Serge Doyen, Jr.; Gerard P. Goehringer. Absent was:
Robert J. Douglass.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2680. Application of CLEMENT
W. BOOTH, Maple Lane, Southold, New York (by Rudolph H. Bruer,
Esq.), for Variances to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III,
Section 100-31 for approval of: [a~ insufficient area and
width of parcel to be established in a subdivision, [b]
insufficient sideyard of preexisting nonhabitable building.
Location of property: 1750 Mount Beulah Avenue and Sound
View Avenue, Southold; bounded north by Sound View Avenue,
west by Mount Beulah Avenue, south by Koch and North Road,
east by McGunnigle. Tax Map Item No. 1000-51-3-part of ~2.
The Chairman opened the hearing at 7:35 P.M. by reading
the application for a variance, legal notice of hearing and
affidavits attesting to its publication in the local and
official newspapers, Notice of Disapproval from the Building
Inspector, and letter from the Town Clerk that notification
to adjoining property owners was made; fee paid $15.00.
CHAIRMAN: We have a copy of the survey showing the
project, and a copy of the County Tax Map showing the surround-
lng properties. Mr. Bruer, did youLhave something to add
to this?
Southold Town Board of Appeals -2- April 10, 1980
RUDOLPH J. BRUER, ESQ.: I believe you gentlemen are
familiar with the premises. It's a lot ~up there on the north
side of Mount Beulah with a number of buildings on it, which
were built, you know, many years ago, which was at one time
Mr. Booth's residence and there were existing buildings a~d
barns as you can see. He would like to b~i_able to divide
the property, sell the house as one lot and the barns on the
other part as another lot._ A~'_it:exists today, you really
couldn't as one lot get as you should get for the property,
and it just lends itself to a division as we applied for and
in accordance with the subdivision, which is before the Planning
Board. Thank you. Are there any questions?
CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else that would like to speak?
Is there anyone against? (There was no response.) Do you
gentlemen have any questions about it?
MEMBER TUTHILL: Lot number 7 has a residence on it,
MR. BRUER: Yes, sir.
MEMBER TUTHILL: And that large building, which one are
you saying is nonhabitable?
MR. BRUER: The northerly part.
MEMBER TUTHILL: Well this is a house. This is habitable.
CHAIRMAN: But this is the one he is talking about (showing
the large brick building to the north of the subject premlses).
MR. BRUER: We want to divide this thing in two.
MEMBER TUTHILL: Oh, we're not talking about the second
house down there.
MR. BRUER: We're trying to cut this piece in half there.
MEMBER TUTHILL: So there is only one house concerned?
MR. BRUER: There is one house there now, plus the barns
on the northerly part; we want to separate the barns from the
house area. In other words, this is the way the line is now.
We want to divide it right along here (indicating the division
line to be approximately 159.17 feet from the point from
Sound View Avenue).
MEMBER TUTHILL: So you'll have this big irregular lot.
MR. BRUER: Right. And this, which the residence is on.
MEMBER TUTHILL: Which one are you saying is convertible?
MR. BRUER: This one. (The house directly south of the
large brick building at the north end of the property.)
· Sou~hold Town Board of Appeals -3- April 10, 1980
MEMBER TUTHILL: Now, you've got to go down to there.
MR. BRUER: That's right.
CHAIRMAN: 47,2~8 square feet on that lot.
MEMBER TUTHILL: And this is the building that has all
the garages.
MR. BRUER: Right. We want to separate that from~he
residence.
CHAIRMAN: Well, if a resolution is in order, .I'll offer
a resolution to grant this as applied for, being that it won't
change the neighborhood, the character of it or anything,
and that there be no more than one dwelling put on, including
the conversion. Just be one residence.
MR. BRUER: The existing building or ths~new building.
CHAIRMAN: On the new building, on the barn.
MR. BRUER: On the new piece, !yes. So there will be on
the whole piece two residences.
MEMBER DOYEN: Two single-family.
MEMBER TUTHILL: I'm not sure we shouldn't require that
no further additions go into this sideyard which is already
going to be insufficient.
CHAIRMAN: If they do, they have to go south.
MEMBER TUTHILL: That it not be decreased in the future
because it's already insufficient.
MR. BRUER: Parcel 6?
MEMBER TUTHILL: Parcel 6, no addition to that house.
MR. BRUER: On ~the sideyards? Maybe to the rear?
MEMBER TUTHILL: We'll worry about that when the time comes,
right now I'm saying in the sideyards.
MEMBER DOYEN: Is that necessary to have that? After all,
he's only allowed to do anything anybody else is. I mean he
would have to come in here anyway.
MEMBER TUTHILL: Ok.
MEMBER DOYEN: If it's permissible, why treat him differently
than anybody else.
MR. BRUER: So I don't see why he couldn't do it if he
meets the requirements, if any. I don't know if he will or not.
Probably wouldn't.
Sou~ho!d Town Board of Appeals -4- April 10, 1980
MEMBER TUTHILL: Well, the only thing, in that accessory
building, that certainly doesn't have any sideyard.
CHAIRMAN: This is the only sideyard he's got there.
There's three feet. And there's a little more sideyard here,
than there is with this.
MEMBER TUTHILL: That was purely curiousity.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: I'll second the motion.
After investigation and inspection, the Board finds that the
applicant is requesting approval of insufficient area of proposed
Lot No. 6, containing approximately 21,797 square feet, and
insufficient width of proposed Lot No. 6, having 99 feet fronting
Mount Beulah Avenue. The Board finds that the unusually large
brick barn building on Lot No. 7i. does lend itself to conversion
as a residence and to require applicant to continue its use as
a barn would cause extreme difficulties for applicant. The
Board also finds that there are similar size lots in the neigh-
borhood, and does agree with the reasoning of the applicant.
The Board finds that the circumstances present in this case
are unique, and that strict application of the ordinance would
produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship. The
Board believes that the granting of a variance in this case will
not change the character of the neighborhood and will observe
the spirit of the zoning ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Goehringer, it
was
RESOLVED, that CLEMENT W. BOOTH, in Appeal No. 2680, be
GRANTED approval of the insufficient area and width of proposed
Lot No. 6, as applied for.
Location of Property: 1750 Mount Beulah Avenue, Southold;
bounded north by Sound View_Avenue, west by Mount Beulah Avenue,
south by Koch and North Road, east by McGunnigle. Tax Map Item
No. 1000-51-3-part of ~2.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Tuthill, Doyen
and Goehringer. Absent: Messr. Douglass.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2678. Application of RICH-
MOND S. CORWIN, Box 927, Southoid, New York for a Variance to
the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-31 for approval
of insufficient area and width of parcels to be established in
a subdivision. Location of property: 500 and 540 Maple Avenue,
Southold; bounded north by Smith, west by Latson, south by Terp
and Latson, east by Maple Avenue. Tax Map No. 1000-64-1-20 & 21.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -5- April 10, 1980
The Chairman opened the hearing at 7:49 P.M. by reading the
application for a variance, legal notice of hearing and affidavits
attesting to its publication in the local and official newspapers,
Notice of Disapproval from the Building Inspector, and letter from
the Town Clerk that notification to adjoining property owners was
made; fee paid $15.00.
CHAIRMAN: The lots would have 31,370 and 31,485 square feet.
Many of the lots across the street and in the immediate vicinity
on this side of the street or close by are quite a bit smaller.
Is there anyone here that wishes to speak for this? Mr. Corwin,
do you have anything?
MR. CORWIN: I think the statement covers my problem. It was
bought primarily as an investment to be used when we needed it
and this way I would like to say I own property when there might
be a time when I might need that money real badly.
MEMBER TUTHILL: A lot of lawn to mow.
CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Mr. Corwin. Does anyone else have any-
thing to add? Is anyone opposed? (~here was no response.) I
guess a resolution is in order, unless someone has some questions.
MEMBER TUTHILL: Since with the division, the two parcels, one
containing the residence and one being vacant would be in keeping
with the average size of the lots in the area, I see nothing
wrong with the division. I recognize the hardship, and offer
a resolution that it be granted as applied for.
After investigation and inspection, the Board finds that the
applicant is requesting approval of the insufficient area, con-
taining 31,485 square feet and 31,370 square feet, and approval
of the insufficient road frontage, having 120.00 and 123.29
feet respectively fronting Maple Avenue (private street). The
applicant states that these lots were separate originally until
the death of the applicant's wife, and "merged ownership" of
the lots was not intentional. The Board agrees with the reason-
ing of the applicant, and did find many lots in the immediate
vicinity to be similar in size to that proposed.
The Board finds that the circumstances present in this case
are unique, and that strict application of the ordinance would
produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship. The
Board believes that the granting of a variance in this case will
not change the character of the neighborhood and will observe
the spirit of the zoning ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Tuthill, seconded by Mr. Doyen, it was
RESOLVED, that RICHMOND S. CORWIN, Box 927, Southold, New
York, Appeal No. 2678, be GRANTED a Variance to the Zoning Ordi-
nance, Article III, Section 100-31, approving the insufficient
area and width of Lots i and 2, Maple Avenue, Southold, New
York, as applied for.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -6- April 10, 1980
Location of Property: 500 and 540 Maple Avenue, Southold;
bounded north by Smith, west by Latson, south by Terp and
Latson, east by Maple Avenue. County Tax Map Item No.
1000-64-1-20 & 21.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Tuthill, Doyen
and Goehringer. Absent: Messr. Douglass.
On motion made by Mr. Tuthi!l, seconded by Mr. Goehringer,
it was
RESOLVED, to approve the minutes of the March 20, 1980
Meeting of this Board.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Tuthill, Doyen
and Goehringer. Absent: Messr. Douglass.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2681. Application of SIDNEY
BEEBE, Main Road, Cutchogue, New York (account of Dennis R.
and Ann L. Bannon), for a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance,
Article III, Section 100-31 for permission to construct addi-
tion with an insufficient frontyard setback. Location of
property: Corner of Hamilton Avenue, Mary's Road, County
Road 27, Mattituck; bounded north by County Road 27, west
by Swiatoccha, south by Hamilton Avenue, east by County Road
27 and Mary's Road. Tax Map Item No. 1000-140-2-1.
The Chairman opened the hearing at 8:00 P.M. by reading the
application for a variance, legal notice of hearing and affidavits
attesting to its publication in the local and official newspapers,
Notice of Disapproval from the Building Inspector, and letter from
the Town Clerk that notification to adjoining property owners was
made; fee paid $15.00.
CHAIRMAN: We have a copy of the survey showing the proposed
addition. Is there anyone here who would like to add anything
to it?
SIDNEY BEEBE:~ There is rea!ty'.~no other.~place[for it to go.
Like you say, this.is all front yards. In the back yard is his
driveway and parking, so I don't know where else it could go.
If you went near the County Road, you would more or less be
blocking the corner of Mary's Road. And this is a very lightly
traveled road-Hamilton Avenue.
CHAIRMAN: Looks almost like a private, dead-end road or
something there.
MR. BEEBE: It is, more or less. I believe it's only one
way, right. You can only go into it from the County Road. You
can't get on to the County Road from that.
SDuthold Town Board of Appeals -7- April 10, 1980
CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else that has something to say
for it?
DENNIS R. BANNON: The house points, the front of the house
points towards Mary's Road, and this is what my wife and I
consider the front of the house, and Hamiltbn~Avenue would be
more aesthetically proper to put it on that side, because we
have a porch on one side, the front of the house on this side,
and the Hamilton Avenue side is sort of a blank side. You
know, it would be the only good place to put it.
CHAIRMAN: Another thing that we noticed the other day in
favor of it, too. When you come out of Hamilton Avenue, the
cut there where the road is cut down, the bank along side of
it you have to get out past it anyway before you could see.
And adding something on there wouldn't be any obstruction to
the view.
MR. BANNON: On that hill there is where we would be
putting it on. You know, there are no obstructions at all.
CHAIRMAN: Is anybody opposed to it? (There was no response.)
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Mr. Bannon, is this going to be a one or
two story?
MR. BANNON: One story.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN: It's a 20=foot addition, isn't it?
MR. BANNON: Right.
MR. BEEBE: 20 by 24.
MEMBER TUTHILL: Well, since I live right in the area and
know that property very well, I agree with the reasoning of
the applicant, and I move that we grant him the relief which
he had applied for.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: I second it.
After investigation and inspection, the Board finds that the
applicant is requesting permission to construct a 20' x 24'
addition at the southeast side of the subject two-story dwelling.
The Board has found that the subject lot is ~situated in such
a way that it has mostly frontyard area, leaving a very limited
practical area in which to construct the addition.
The Board finds that the circumstances present in this case
are unique, and that strict application of the ordinance would
produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship. The
Board believes that the granting of a variance in this case
will not change the character of the neighborhood and will
observe the spirit of the zoning ordinance.
SQuthold Town Board of Appeals -8- April 10, 1980
On motion by Mr. Tuthill, seconded by Mr, Goehringer, it was
RESOLVED, that in Appeal No. 2681, the applicant, SIDNEY
BEEBE on account for DENNIS R. and ANN L. BANNON, be GRANTED
a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-31
permission'to construct a 20' x 24' addition with an
insufficient frontyard setback, as applied for. Location of
property: Corner of Hamilton Avenue, Mary's Road, County
Road 27, Mattituck; bounded north by County Road 27, west
by Swiatoccha, south by Hamilton Avenue, east by County Road
27 and Mary's Road. Tax Map Item No. 1000-140-2-1.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Tuthill, Doyen
and Goehringer. Absent: Messr. Douglass.
On motion made by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Tuthilt, it
was
RESOLVED, to approve the minutes of the Special Meeting
held March 31, 1980.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Tuthill, Doyen
and Goehringer. Absent: Messr. Douglass.
On motion made by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Tuthill, it
was
RESOLVED, the Mattituck Firemen's Association, Inc. be
GRANTED permission to install posters advertising their "Old
Fashioned Firemen's Parade and Tournament" to be held in
Mattituck on Saturday, August 16, 1980 within the Southold
Town area with the condition that the posters be removed 3
not later~than~.the week of August 17th.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Tuthill, Doyen
and Goehringer. Absent: Messr. Douglass.
Thei~Chairmah announced a recess for five minutes. The
meeting reconvened at 8:15 P.M.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2679. Application of RAYMOND
and ANNA CIACIA, Main Road, Greenport, New York (by James
Bitses, Esq.) for Variances to the Zoning Ordinance: [a]
Article III, Section 100-31 and Article VIII, Section 100-81
Bulk Schedule, for permission to construct dwelling with
insufficient front and side yards, [b] Article VIII, Sec-
tion 100-118, for permission to establish dwelling use in a
C-Zone. Location of property: Southerly side of Kerwin
Boulevard, Greenport; Lots No. 159 and 160, "Peconic Bay
Southold Town Board of Appeals =9- April 10, 1980
Estates," Map No. 1124. Tax Map Item No. 1000-53-2-23.
The Chairman opened the hearing at 8:16 P.M. by reading the
application fora variance, legal notice of hearing and affidavits
attesting to its publication in the local and official newspapers,
Notice of Disapproval from the Building Inspector, and letter from
the Town Clerk that notification to adjoining property owners was
made; fee paid $15.00.
CHAIRMAN: Is Mrl Bitses going to be here?
MR. CIACIA: He should be here.
CHAIRMAN: The only thing we question here, we thought at one
time he was talking about selling the business, and it says here
selling the house.
MR. CIACIA: No, no. The business.
CHAIRMAN: I think that's a mistake. That's why I stopped
during the reading or.the application.
The Board at this point in time reviewed the proposal of
the applicants.
CHAIRMAN: Do you want to say anything, Mr. Ciacia, or do
you want to wait for Mr~ Bitses?
MR. CIACIA: I'd rather wait for Mr. Bitses.
CHAIRMAN: Ok, we'll recess this then until the attorney
shows up.
MEMBER DOYEN: Maybe put it until the end of the public
hearings.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Goehringer, it
RESOLVED, to recess the hearing in the matter of RAYMOND and
ANNA CIACIA, in Appeal No. 2679, until the end of all the
public hearings scheduled tonight.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Tuthill, Doyen
and Goehringer. Absent: Messr. Douglass.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2683. Application of RICHARD
and DONNALEE RELYEA, Box 372, Laurel, New York, for a Variance
to the Zoning Ordinance, Article II!, Section 100-31 for
approval of insufficient area and width of parcel to be estab-
lished in a subdivision. Location of property: East side of
Deer Foot Path, Mattituck; bounded north by Beier, west by
Deer Foot Path, south by Mattituck Creek, east by Zara. Tax
Map Item No. 1000-113-6-23.
S~outhold Town Board of Appeals -10- April 10, 1980
The Chairman opened the hearing at 8:30 P.M. by reading the
application for a variance, legal notice of hearing and affidavits
attesting to its publication in the local and official newspapers,
Notice of Disapproval from the Building Inspector, and letter from
the Town Clerk that notification to adjoining property owners was
made; fee paid $15.00.
CHAIRMAN: We have a survey map here, that shows that the main
lot that they are now building a house on contains 33,837 square
feet and the lots they propose to cut off would contain 23,262
square feet. Is there someone here that wants to speak about
this?
RICHARD RELYEA: Yes, I'm Rich Relyea, the applicant. I have
neighbors bordering the east side of the property which are Mr.
and Mrs. Zara. They couldn't be here tonight, they are both
business people, but they did give me a letter of support or
approval for the subdivision. They border on the east side,
which is the old Beier property.
CHAIRMAN: What's their name, Zara?
MR. RELYEA: Yeah. (Mr. Relyea handed the Chairman the letter.)
CHAIRMAN: "Mahir and Greta Zara .... Let it be known that we
have no objection for the proposed subdivision of the property
adjacent to our property, registered in Tax Map District 1000,
Section 113, Block 6, Lot 23. Yours truly, Greta Zara, Mahir
Zara .... " This is dated March 5, 1980. May we make this part
of the file.
MR. RELYEA: Ail right. I also would like to mention that
my property has a right-of-way on Fox Hollow Road into my own
property, which is right here, and this fronts on Mr. Ramsau's
property. This right-of-way would not be necessary in the deed
for this half acre because there is ample access on this end
of the property, which is one of the fears of my neighbors.
Also, I'm quite flexible in this subdivision where I would
accept any recommendations on house size or height of house
in this area so that it wouldn't be obtrusive to the neighbor-
hood, which is also a fear of one of my neighbors that there
might be a very large house built there, which it would not be
the case.
CHAIRMAN: Do you have anything else to add?
MR. RELYEA: I think all you gentlemen have all the informa-
tion.
CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else in favor of it? ts there
anyone to speak against it?
DOUGLASS SHAW: Yes. My name is Douglass Shaw and I'm
speaking for myself as a resident of that neighborhood as
well as for Mr. Joseph Moisa, Mr. Ed Danowski, and Mr. Ken
Ramsau, who are the other three adjoining property owners.
SDuthold Town Board of Appeals -11- April 10, 1980
MR. SHAW (continued): I think we would like to dispute the
Relyea's statement that the average lot size in that area is
one-half acre. Along the water, and if I can share with you
this map, which I am sure you can acquire a copy, including
all properties in Bill Wurtenburg's subdivision known as
"Hideaway Estates," which are these, and moving also to
include the Zara property. We have an average lot size on
the waterfront of 1.19 acres, and this has been figured
from areas of each of these. Including all of the lots in
the general area, we have the 12 surrounding lots which
conclude the waterfront lots which would be directly com-
parable to the Relyea's property, as well as the three lots
in Hideaway which would service the surrounding properties
as well as the two behind it. We have an average lot size
of .97 acres, or almost one acre. We'd also like to point
out that when the Miller Estate was divided, and all of
these lots, this, this, and the Relyea property were all
at one time part of the Miller Estate and was divided by
perhaps Beier, probably 10 or more years ago, it was
divided when half-acre zoning was in effect and the lots
on the water were made larger than one acre to conform
with the existing pattern along the watter. We'd also like
to point out that if you follow it on, around, you'll notice
that this lot isn't one acre, this one is slightly less than
an acre, and it goes on. That one is two acres, this is
1.3, 1.4, 1.3, 2.1, 1.8, 1.4, and that's 2.1 acres, and that
takes us all the way around to Bayview Avenue. We feel that
it would materially alter the character of our neighborhood.
And I think it is quite significant that all three of these
other adjoining property owners are here in opposition to
this. We don't feel that the argument concerning lot size
is valid. And I think that basically sums our case out.
So, thank you very much for your time.
CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else who would like to speak?
MR. SHAW: Would any of you like to say your particular
piece on the matter (referring to neighbors in the audience).
We've met and discussed this and we are quite concerned about
the possible, really the crowding in the neighborhood. There
is no single lot that would be as small as the lot that the
Relyea's are proposing. And we don't feel it's in the best
interests of the neighborhood, and we feel also that it should
be pointed out that the Relyea's bought the property with full
knowledge that one-acre zoning did apply at the time. And
we simply do not agree that there is a sufficient hardship
involved giving the lot to your children, or selling it to
your children to justify this. We further are aware that
there are no guarantees that that lot cannot then, once the
subdivision is made, be sold to whomever is interested in
buying. Thank you very much.
MEMBER TUTHILL: You own adjoining property.
MR. SHAW: I am the son of Dorothy and Donald Shaw. We're
not on an adjoining property. I'm in the neighborhood and, I'm,
SDuthotd Town Board of Appeals -12- April 10, 1980
well Ken Ramsaurhas known me since the old days of babyhood, and
this is our property, which is 1.7 acres which adjoins the 1.3
which is in the Hideaway Development. We however were part
originally of Emmett Young's Development, of which Youngs Point
Captain comes from. So that's who I am.
CHAIRMAN: Ok. Thanks a lot.
MEMBER TUTHILL: I'd like to ask a question. Ken, what's
the size of your lot? I can't read the figures on that tax
map.
KEN RAMSAU~~ It's one acre.
MEMBER TUTHILL: It is an acre? Do you know the frontage
and the depth? It doesn't look like an acre on the tax map.
MR. SHAW: Itis 135 on the front and 312 feet deep.
CHAIRMAN: 135 by 312.
MEMBER TUTHILL: You've got over 40,000 square feet.
CHAI~f~N: A little better than 42,000 I come up with.
Is there anyone else that has any questions?
MR. RELYEA: Mr. Grigonis? Most of the information that
was stated was true, but if you have a copy of the map in
the area behind my own property, the property to ~the north
way over here. The property to the back of my property,
the piece I would like to subdivide, is .666 acres, which
is nowhere near even three-quarters of an acre. The
property just beyond that is .5 acres; there's a house
being built on it now. The piece of property that my one
neighbor owns which is across the street from it is .5
acre. None of these properties are larger than the one
I want to subdivide. Plus I feel the proportions of the
property I want to subdivide are superior to many in the
neighborhood, that it's not pie-shaped or anything. It
has 137 foot frontage, it's 150 feet deep; it's an ideal
building lot. And my own property as it stands now is
450 feet deep from the water, which is 150 feet or better
deeper than almost all the other pieces on the waterfront.
So that's what I was trying to bring it out in that it is
odd-shaped. It's 150 feet deeper than most of the properties
on the water, and it doesn't disturb the character of the
waterfront pieces. They're all long and narrow. It just
might happen to be a little bit narrower than the others,
otherwise it will also be an acre or over. That's all I
wanted to add to that. Thank you very much.
CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else? (There was no response.)
We will close the hearing at this time, and we will make a
decision a little bit later on, behind we are running behind.
Thank you all for the information and you will be notified
very shortly.
~outhold Town Board of Appeals -13- April 10, 1980
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Tuthill, it was
RESOLVED, that the hearing be closed in the matter of
RICHARD and DONNALEE RELYEA, Appeal No. 2683, and to RESERVE
DECISION until a later time.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Tuthill and
Doyen. Messr. Goehringer abstained. Absent: Mr. Douglass.
PUBLIC HEARING. Appeal No. 2682. Application of ROBERT L.
BOGER, 1225 Boisseau Avenue, Southold, New York for a Variance
to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-31 for per-
mission to construct dwelling with insufficient front and rear
yard setbacks. Location of property: North side of Willow Point
Road, Arshamomaque, Southold, New York, more particularly known
as "Map of Willow Point" #4652, Lot ~25. County Tax Map Item
No. 1000-56-5-27.
The Chairman opened the hearing at 8:50 P.M. by reading the
application for a variance, legal notice of hearing and affidavits
attesting to its publication in the local and official newspapers,
Notice of Disapproval from the Building Inspector, and letter from
the Town Clerk that notification to adjoining property owners was
made; fee paid S15.00.
CHAIRMAN: We have a survey showing the location of the
proposed dwelling. Is there anything you wanted to add in
relation to the front and rear yard variances, Mr. Boger?
ROBERT L. BOGER: Not really. But thers~arequite a few
houses in there right now that have less back yard, some are
28, 30 feet. And around the corner naturally, some in fact
up to 35 over there.
PHILIP OFRIAS: I think another fact was that, this lot as
originally laid out was not bu!kheaded, and has lost between
10 and 15 feet of erosion that has fallen into the canal from
the lot. While it was originally the second narrowest lot in
that subdivision, it is now about 10 to 15 feet narrower
than when it was originally laid out. I believe that's shown
on the survey that you gentlemen have. It shows the original
lot line that is underwater now.
CHAIRMAN: That narrowed down toward the westerly end.
MR. BOGER: The reason for the location being shoved over
that way too was to get in the highland on the property and
away from the neighbors as far as possible.
CHAIRMAN: Does anyone else have anything to add to it?
Does anyone wish to speak against it?
MR. WHITNEY: I'm Mr. Whitney from Bay Home Road down there.
would like to know more about this house. I'm not familiar
Southold Town Board of Appeals -14- April 10, 1980
with it, and I would like to know more about it, because, I
mean after all I was the first man in there.
MR. BOGER: I know, I built your house.
MR. WHITNEY: Yeah.
MR. BOGER: What would, you~like to know.
MR.
do you
Design, type?
WHITNEY: I would like to know the design on it. Why
have to go back 35 feet?
MR. BOGER: Why do I have to go back 35 feet?
MR. WHITNEY: There's a 35-foot setback in there.
MR. BOGER: I know. They want me to go back, they are
requiring me the average of the houses next to me, 48 or
so. If I did that, I'd be in the water. You know, I'm
trying to keep the 35-foot setback that I thought was used
in half-acre zoning.
MR. OFRIAS: Maybe the question should be directed through
the Board--
/
CHAIRMAN: Yes, that's right. The secretary can't hear
you talking back and forth and then we all get confused.
MR. WHITNEY:
the east side.
measures today.
Well, that lot originally was 139 feet on
127 on the other side. I don't know what it
I haven't any idea.
MR. BOGER: We have that, but you know, it's in the water.
There is quite a bit in the water, t think it winds up
around 1-something, close to 115 or 117 now.
MR. WHITNEY: Do you plan to bulkhead that area?
MR. BOGER: Yeah, eventually. I was fighting with D.EoC.
so long I didn't have the--they said to me not to go ahead
with the bulkhead permits right now because the other thing
was complicated enough, and it turned out I didn't need them.
I could have gotton the bulkhead permit because I never
needed the other variance, you know. So I will apply for
that anyway soon.
MR. WHITNEY: i'm just curious~to find out what the
design of the house was.
MR. BOGER: It'll be a Cape Cod. Two-car garage.
MR. WHITNEY: Is it going to have a cellar?
MR. BOGER: Yeah, we're getting into that after this.
MR. WHITNEY: I have the only cellar down there.
S~uthold Town Board of Appeals -15- April 10, 1980
MR. BOGER: No (remainder of statement was not picked up).
MR. WHITNEY: Oh, yeah, over on the other side more.
CHAIRMAN: We can't get into the record what you're saying.
MR. WHITNEY: I have no objection. I was just trying to
get further information.
MEMBER TUTHILL: I think what the Board is saying the
questions should be addressed to the Board or a request
for information, and the answers should come to the Board
and not back and forth in the audience.
CHAIRMAN: To get it in the record.
MEMBER TUTHILL: Besides. It can get into a debate.
MR. BOGER: I can drop off a set o.f plans for Mr. Whitney
to look over if he is concerned with house design.
MR. WHITNEY: I would appreciate him showing the location
and all.
CHAIRMAN: Does anyone else have any questions? No questions?
(There was no response.) I'll offer a resolution granting the
front and rear yards. 35 and 35. As applied for.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: I'll second it.
After investigation and inspection, the Board finds that
the applicant is requesting permission to construct dwelling
with insufficient front and rearyard setbacks of 35 feet off
Willow Point Road, Southold, New York. The Board found that
the lot has a depth of buildable area approximately 112 feet,
leaving an insufficient amount of area in which to build,
to wit, 12 feet if he were required to comply with the 50
foot front and rear yard setbacks of the present zon!ng ordi-
nance. The Board agrees with the reasoning of the applicant.
The Board finds that the circumstances present in this
case are unique, and that strict application of the ordinance
would produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship.
The Board believes that the granting of a variance in this
case will not change the character of the neighborhood and
will observe the spirit of the zoning ordinance.
On motion made by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Goehringer,
it was
RESOLVED, that ROBERT L. BOGER, be GRANTED a Variance to
the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-31, in Appeal
No. 2682 permitting the construction of the proposed dwell-
ing with insufficient front and rear yard setbacks of 35
feet as applied for.
Southold ToWn Board of Appeals -16- April 10, 1980
Location of Property: North side of Willow Point Road,
Arshamomaque, Southold; more particularly known as "Map of
Willow Point" ~4652, Lot ~25. County Tax Map Item No.
1000-56-5-27.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, TuthilL Doyen
and~Goehringer. Absent: Messr. Douglass.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 1. Application of ROBERT L.
BOGER, 1225 Boisseau Avenue, Southold, New York for a Variance
to the Flood Damage Prevention Law of the Town of Southo!d,
Sections 46-15 and 46-19B(!) for permission to construct base-
ment below the restricted base flood elevation in a V-4 Zone.
Location of property: North side of Willow Point Road, Arsha-
momaque, Southold, New York; more particularly known as "Map
of Willow Point" ~4652, Lot ~25. County Tax Map No. 1000-56-
5-27.
The Chairman opened the hearing at 9:03 P.M. by reading the
application for a variance, legal notice of hearing and affidavits
attesting to its publication in the local and official newspapers,
Notice of Disapproval from the Building Inspector, and letter from
the Town Clerk that notification to adjoining property
owners was made; fee paid $15.00.
CHAIRMAN: We also have a couple of letters in .here. One from
the Department of Health Services:
Re: Robert L. Boger, Property N/S Willow Point
Road, Arshamomaque ....
...We are in receipt of a Notice of Complete Applica-
tion, dated March 19, 1980, for the above referenced proposed
dwelling.
This office does not wish lead agency status.
A precursory review of the above referenced indi-
cates that public water should be available to service the new
home; however, special consideration will be given to the
sewerage disposal system due to poor soils in the area.
Very truly yours,
/s/ Royal R. Reynolds, P.E.
Public Health Engineer
General Engineering Services ....
PHILIP J. OFRIAS, ESQ.: Gentlemen, because this was a first
time application, prior to submitting that application to the
Board I took it up and I went over'with Bob Tasker to insure
that in his estimation it was legally sufficient~in the form
of its drafting; and he thought it was. Insofar as the appli-
cation goes and the basis for the application and why we think
Sputhold Town Board of Appeals -17- April t0, 1980
it should be granted. In addition as what is set forth in the
petition. I would cite three sections of this Flood Plain Law.
One is 46-15, which states that the Board of Appeals on appli-
cation for a variance shall consider all relevant factors includ-
ing 11 itemized considerations, which it sets forth. I think
that reviewing this application and what Mr. and Mrs. Boger wish
to do those, it passes those 11 items with flying colors. They
hardly appear to even be relevant. The next section I'd refer
you to would be, and I don't mean to be fractious in referring,
would be 46-5. It defines a variance because there were ques-
tions that Mr. Tasker and I went over in our own minds as to
what a variance could encompass, and I think the answer is in
the definition of a variance as set forth right in the ordinance
a grant of relief from the requirements of this chapter which
permit construction in a manner which would otherwise be pro-
hibited by this chapter, therefore, the Board by granting a variance
can grant to the applicant permission to erect whatever he could
otherwise erect absent this flood plain ordinance. The last
section I would call your attention to would be 46-16, which
basically says that for lots under a half acre in size or up
to a half acre in size, where that lot is in the area of other
lots that have already been improved by dwellings which are below
the base flood level, that the variance can be granted in this
application although that the Board should refer to the 11 items
which I referred to above. So I would think that while, of course,
there is discretion with the Board, I would think that the appli-
cants have come well within the parameters set forth in this
ordinance for a variance. And I think that what exists on that
canal~iand which has existed for a number of years would certainly
be sufficient indication that this particular location is not
subject to the type of damage for flood control to which this
ordinance is directed. If the Board has any questions, I would
be glad to try and answer them.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Maybe in a couple of minutes, after we
get the objections, Mr. Chairman?
CHAIRMAN: Well, is there anyone else who wants to speak for
this? Is there anyone here that would like to speak against
it, or wants to speak against it rather? (There was no response.)
MEMBER TUTHILL: You're referring to a full basement?
MR. BOGER: Yes.
MEMBER TUT~ILL~ I mean a walk-in cell.arK i~erst~nd~there
is a'technical difference between a cellar and a basement.
MR. BOGER: Eight foot ceiling height.
MEMBER TUTHILL: How far would the floor of this basement
be below the eight-foot?
MR. BOGER: I think I gave them an accurate survey the
location. I think it might be 3'8" below.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -18- April 10, 1980
MR. CHAIRMAN: it's here.
MEMBER TUTHILL: I presume you are going to do all kinds of
waterproofing and so forth for your own benefit.
MR. BOGER: Oh, ! have to.
MEMBER TUTHILL: Because the other houses in the area are
built on slabs we noticed.
MR. BOGER: Slabs, a few crawls, and a couple of basements.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I'm looking for it in there, and it's all
written in here. It says 4'4"
MR. OFRIAS: Above sea level.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Can I ask him a question? Is there any
possibility of raising that at all, Mr. Boger?
MR. BOGER: Right now I'm putting the top of my foundation
four feet above the grade that's there now, and that is already
eight feet above mean sea level, where, you know, the surveyors
show.
MRS. BOGER: If you go any higher, you're not going to be
conforming to the neighborhood either.
MEMBER TUTHILL: In other words, half your basement will be
below and half will be above this eight-foot mark.
MR. BOGER: We're still going to grade to a normal foundation
level. I didn't want to look at all that concrete and I don't
think anybody else would.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Is there any possibility for a seven-
foot foundation instead of an eight foot?
MR. BOGER: There is. I don't know if it really makes a
greater difference. I don't know. I'm going to put in a d~ct
system, so you do l°se, and that's the thing I'm trying to avoid,
if I can, I'd like to be able to walk underneath all this stuff.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: By ducts, you mean heat pumps?
MR. BOGER: No, I mean hot-air system.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Hot-air system. I'm not positive which
one it's going to be yet.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Personally, I don't know, if it's four feet
or three feet it's going to make that much difference? He has
got to waterproof it any way, down below there.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -19- April 10, 1980
MR. BOGER: Nothing goes through that, Charlie. That's all
clay over there.
MR. CHAIRMAN: That's why you've got water sitting on the
top of it now in some places after it rains.
MRo BOGER: And with this new system that the Health Department
has designed, I'll make a leeching field around my foundation
itself and that will go into it because it has to be a tremendous
sand troth I will have to build for them, 100 feet long by, I
don't know, so many feet wide, and this surrounds the five pool
section so when I get through there it'll be all sand.
MEF~ER TUTHILL: You are a builder aren't you?
MR. BOGER: Yes.
MEMBER TUTHILL: Then you know what your problems are.
MR. BOGER: I happen to have the biggest one of all.
MEMBER TUTHILL: You're not planning on a sump pump, I presume?
MR. BOGER: No. No. I'm not worried one bit about water over
there.
MR. CHAIRMAN: A lot of these houses are on slabs, but I
think there is a cellar over there now.
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Mr. Whitney has a cellar.
MR. OFRIAS: Two with full basements.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I don't know whether it's waterproofed or not,
but, I don't know. Heck, I've seen cellars after a good heavy
storm get water in them. It wasn't flooded, it was just from
rainwater, I don't know.
MR. BOGER: That's all I would be worried about is rain water.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Yeah, you'll get that a lot.
SHIRLEY BACKRACH: May I ask a question?
MR. CHAIRMAN: Yes.
MRS. BACHRACH: Does it make any difference with the~National
Flood Plain Insurance qualifications?
MR. CHAIR~N: Well, that's what he is required. He is~just
asking for a little variance on it. That's why he is in here.
If it wasn!t for the Flood Plain Insurance he would have
been building a house there. And probably living in, it by now.
But this thing came along about the time he was getting ready
to get started. That's why he is asking for the variance, to
get the four feet below the level, which we are in the process
debating about granting it as it's requested. That's four feet
Southold Town Board of Appeals -20, April 10, 198-
below the eight-foot level.
MRS. BACHRACH: Yes, I realize that. That's what I'm asking,
whether this would interfere with, in case there were flooding,
whether he would be disqualified from getting flood insurance?
MR. OFRIAS: I think the answer is, that he is not disqualified,
but if he builds a house having obtained a variance from the
Flood Plain Ordinance, his premium is adjusted accordingly. He
is not disqualified, but he has to pay a higher rate.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Because they have to be notified of everything
that happens kere, from this Board. I guess it probably would
end up in Washington somewhere. It's all brand new to us actually.
Do any of you gentlemen have any other questions? Do any of
you people got anything to add that we might have forgotten,
or you forgot?
MR. OFRIAS: Nothing unless there are questions.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I can't think of anything.
MR. BOGER: Is everybody aware of the actual location of this
land?
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: Definitely.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Yes. We've been down there.
MR. BOGER: I think you have a big map if I'm not mistaken.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I've been down there a couple of times, and
Gerry's been down. I'll offer a resolution closing the hearing
and we will make a decision a little later on. We wan~ to make
sure we're going to get all this stuff in order before we do
so. We'll probably have an answer for you tomorrow if you wan~
to call the secretary. Thank you very much for coming in.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Goehringer, it
was
RESOLVED, that the hearing be declared closed and to RESERVE
DECISION regarding the matter of ROBERT L. BOGER in Appeal No.
1, (Flood Damage Prevention Law).
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Tuthill, Doyen
and Goehringer. Absent: Messr. Douglass'.
RECESSED HEARING: Appeal No. 2679 Application of RAYMOND
and ANNA CIACIA, Main Road, Greenport, New York (by James Bitses,
Esq.) for Variances to the Zoning Ordinance: Ia] Article III,
Section 100-31 and Article VIII, Section 100-81 Bulk Schedule,
for permission to construct dwelling with insufficient front
~outhold Town Board of Appeals -21- April 10, 1980
and side yards, [bi Article VIII, Section 100-118, for permission
to establish dwelling use in a C-Zone. Location of property:
Southerly side of Kerwin Boulevard, Greenport; Lots No. 159 and
160, "Peconic Bay Estates," Map No. 1124. Tax Map Item No. 1000-
53-2-23.
The Chairman reconvened the hearing at approximately 9:20
P.M.
MR. CHAIRMAN: I've read all the legal notices earlier, and
we ran into an item here; I think it's a mistake, probably.
In the strict application of the ordinance, where it would
produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship because
"applicant has been occupying the dwelling in~.C-Zone as a
nonconforming use. It is his intention to move his house onto
Lots 159 and 160, which are undersized. The best location on
said lots on which to erect a dwelling will leave an inadequate
front and side yard clearance. The applicant faces unnecessary
hardship in that the dwelling was included in the business zone
long after it had been at its present location, and the noncon-
forming use engendered by unilateral action by the Town Board
in 1957 and thereafter. At the present time applicant wishes
to sell his house."
M~._CHA~RMAN:~ You indicated to sell his business.
MR. BITSES: Should be the lots~from which he is moving his
house which have a commercial building thereon. I missed that.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Can we amend that now with your permission?
MR. BITSES: Yes. I would request that the Board amend that
to include the proper sense. The house is being moved off the
property that will be sold, and that Lots 157 and 158 are the
lots referred to as the ones to be sold, and Lots 159 and 160
are the lots to which the house will be moved, which will not
be sold, of course. He, will continue to live ink,he_dwelling
hQuse.
MR. CHAIRMAN: It will be in the record. So do you have
anything to add?
MR. BITSES: Mr. Ciacia went to the trouble of literally
building a wooden plywood replica of the lot to~ scale. And
he also built a replica of the house to scale very accurately.
And we moved that around, you can get a better sense in 3-D
than you can trying to figure something out on paper, and we
moved tbs house around and we tried to find the optimum loca-
tion. The house is presently 24 feet from the road. It will
be 40 feet from the road. Also, being moved back 40 feet from
the road it still gives us 20 foot clearance on either side
of the house. And from visual examination of a 3-D model,we
found this to be the optimum location. However, if you
insist on moving it back 50 feet, this will narrower down
the sideyard; it can be done. We're not saying that it can't
$outhold Town Board of Appeals -22- April 10, 1980
be done and that we will not do it if you so direct us. But
it can be done. It will narrow down the sideyards unneces-
sarily. So, we would suggest, we would respectfully request
that the 40-foot distance be- very carefully examined and
considered before we pick this particular distance. We
try to balance all the factors.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Ail right. Thank you. Is there anyone
here who would like to speak against this application?
(There was no response.) The house across the road on Ker-
win Boulevard is only about 5 feet off the road. I doubt
it's even that much, the way the property line is. Then
going down that street I don't think there are any of them
40 feet back, there might be some 30, 35. When you get
further down, there's one that's pretty close to it actually.
MR. BITSES: It will definitely be an improvement.
MR. CHAIRMAN: And'this will more or less keep it in line
with Rempe's Fish Market, a little bit further back even
than that. Do you have any questions, Gerry?
MEMBER GOEHRINGER: I have no questions and no objection
to it.
MR. CHAIRMAN: No further discussion? Then I'll offer a
resolution granting this as applied for.
After investigation and inspection, the Board finds that the
applicant is requesting permission to construct dwelling on a
parcel of land in a C-Zone with an insufficient frontyard setback
off Kerwin Boulevard of 40 feet and an insufficient frontyard
setback off Lawrence Lane of 20 feet and insufficient total
sideyards of 20 feet. The Board finds that most of the
buildings in the neighborhood have been constructed with
similar locations, and some with much less frontyard setbacks
than that requested herein. The Board feels that to deny the
applicant the permission requested herein would cause unnec-
essary hardship and does agree with the reasoning of the
applicant.
The Board finds that the circumstances present in this case
are unique, and that strict application of the ordinance would
produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship. The
Board believes that the granting of a variance in this case will
not change the charac%er of the neighborhood and will observe
the spirit of the zoning ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Tuthill, it was
RESOLVED, that RAYMOND and ANNA CIACIA, Appeal No. 2679, be
GRANTED Variances to the Zoning Ordinance: [a] Article III,
Section 100-31 and Article VIII, Section 100-81, Bulk Schedule,
permitting the construction of dwelling with insufficient front
and sideyards as applied for, [b] Article VIII, Section 100-
118, permitting building to be used as residence in a C-Zone
as applied for.
Southold Town Board of Appeals -23- April 10, 1980
Location of Property: Southerly side of Kerwin Boulevard,
Greenport; Lots No. 159 and 160, "Peconic Bay Estates," Map
No. 1124. County Tax Map Item No. 1000-53-2-23.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Tuthill, Doyen
and Goehringer. Absent: Messr. Douglass.
Member Tuthill left the room briefly between 9:31 and 9:36.
Member Goehringer left the room briefly and returned at 9:40.
9:31: Informal Discussion regarding property of Samuel B.
Prellwitz, south side of Indian Neck Lane, Peconic. Bill
Smith asked to meet informally with the Board regarding Mr.
Prellwitz' property, for which this date he has filed a variance
for permission to construct second dwelling on single lot con-
taining 4.47 acres. Mr. Smith explained that the Planning
Board would not consider a separate lot for the second dwelling
proposed inasmuch as it would be a five-lot (major) subdivision,
rather than a minor subdivision which has already been applied
for. The Chairman said there didn't seem to be any problems
with:the layout. Mr. Goehringer said that he assumed the
kitchen in the house on the Bay would not be in use when the
kitchen in the house and the cottage would be in use, and
Mr. Smith said both m&y be used during~the summer only. ' Tke -
Board said the variance will be scheduled for a public hearing
~ the next regular meeting of this Board.
9:40: Informal Discussion regarding the Orient Point inn
site at Route 25, Orient. Richard J. Cron, Esq. showed the
Board members the plans of converting the existing dilapidated
54-unit hotel into a 45-unit motel on the 2.148 acres.
Article XI, Section 100-117 required 4,000 square feet of
land for each unit where public water and public sewer sys-
tems are provided, and in order to permit 45-units, 180,000
square feet of land must be available. Mr. Cron said more
land would be available; however, it would not be in the
same zoning district (A-Residential & Agricultural rather
than M-l). The Board suggested that they
ion of the Town Board as to whether or not a change of
zone application would be the proper procedure.
Southcld Town Board of Appeals -24a- April 10, 1980
RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No. 2683.Application of RICHARD
and DONNALEE RELYEA, Box 372, Laurel, New York, for a Variance
to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-31 for
approval of insufficient area and width of parcel to be estab-
lished in a subdivision. Location of property: East side of
Deer Foot Path, Mattituck; bounded north by Beier, west by
Deer Foot Path, south by Mattituck Creek, east by Zara. Tax
Map Item No. 1000-113-6-23.
After investigation and inspection, the Board finds that
the applicants are requesting approval of the insufficient
area of two proposed parcels, 23,262 and 33,837 square feet,
and approval of the insufficient width of 112.34 and approxi-
mately 20 feet respectively. The Board has found that most
of the properties in the immediate vicinity of the subject
parcel are larger than that proposed by applicant, and to
grant the relief requested herein would not be in keeping
with the character of the neighborhood.
The Board finds that the circumstances present in this case
are not unique, and that strict application of the ordinance would
not produce practical difficulties.or unnecessary hardship. The
Board believes that the granting of a variance in this case will
change the character of the neIghborhood and would not observe
the spirit of the zoning ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Grigonls, seconded by Mr. Tuthill, it was
RESOLVED, that RICHARD and DONNALEE RELYEA, Box 372, Laurel,
New York be DENIED a Variance to the Zoning Ordinance as requested
in Appeal No. 2683. Location of property: East side of Deer
Foot Path, Mattituck; bounded north by Beier, west by Deer Foot
Path, south by Mattituck Creek, east~by Zara. County Tax Map
Item No. 1000-113-6-23.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Tuthill, Doyen.
Messr. Goehringer abstained from vote. Messr. Douglass was
absent.
RESERVED DECISION: Appeal No. 1 (Variance to Flood Prevention
Law). Application of ROBERT L. BOGER, 1225 Boisseau Avenue,
Southold, New York for a Variance to the Flood Damage Prevention
Law of the Town of Southold, Sections 46-15 and 46-19B(1) for
permission to construct basement below the restricted base flood
elevation in a V-4 Zone. Location of property: North Side of
Willow Point Road, Arshamomaque, Southold, New York; more parti-
cularly known as "Map of Willow Point" ~4652, Lot 925. County
Tax Map Item No. 1000-56-5-27.
Upon investigation and personal ~__spec~lon of %he premises~
%he Board _f~i~ds as follo~s~ ~
Southold Town Board of Appeals -24(bl- April 10, 1980
The lot in question has an area of 20,500 square feet. The
plot plan submitted to the Board indicates that the area of the
lot where the dwelling is to be constructed has an elevation of
8.0 feet above mean sea level. The applicant proposes to con-
struct a basement with a finished floor 4.4 feet above mean sea
level. The Flood Insurance Rate Map (FIRM) indicates that the
property is located in a Zone V with an elevation of 8 feet.
However, the Town Engineer has been conferring with representa-
tives of the Federal Insurance Administration and has indicated
to the Town that the designation of the area in question will in
all probability be changed from a V Zone to an A Zone. The Board
also finds that there are several homes contiguous to and in the
neighborhood of the lot in question. The dwellings constructed
on these lots are on property of a similar size and the dwellings
constructed thereon are below the base flood level. The Board
therefore finds that the lot in question meets the standards set
forth in Section 46-16A of the Code since it contains an area of
less than one-half acre and is contiguous to and surrounded by
lots with existing structures constructed below the base flood
level.
In passing upon this application, the Board has considered
all technical evaluations; all relevant factors; all standards
specified in the Code; and all of the applicable factors con-
tained in Section 46-15B, subdivisions (1) to (11), inclusive,
of the Code.
The Board further finds and determines that: (1) There
is a good and sufficient cause for the grant of this variance;
(2) A failure to grant the variance would result in exceptional
hardship to the applicant; (3) The grant of the variance will
not result in increased flood heights, or additional threats to
public safety, or extraordinary public expense, or create nui-
sances, or cause fraud, or victimize the public, or conflict
with existing local laws or rules or regulations.
IT IS THEREFORE RESOLVED, that ROBERT L. BOGER, the applicant
herein, be and he hereby is granted a variance from the provisions
of the Flood Damage Prevention Law of the Town of Southold to
construct a one-family private dwelling on premises located on
the north side of Willow Point Road, Southold, New York, said
premises being designated on the Suffolk County Tax Map as
District 1000, Section 56, Block 5, Lot 27, with the finished
basement floor to be elevated 4'4" above mean sea level, SUBJECT
TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, to wit:
(1) That the basement be flood proofed so that below the
base flood level the structure is watertight with walls sub-
stantially impermeable to the passage of water;
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(2) That the floodproofing requirements be certified by a
registered professional engineer or architect as meeting the
standards set forth in the preceding paragraph hereof;
(3) That such certification be filed with the Building
Inspector of the Town;
(4) That prior to the commencement of construction, the
applicant apply for and obtain a development permit from the
Town Building Inspector, pursuant to the provisions of the
Flood Damage Prevention Law.
IT IS FURTHER RESOLVED, that pursuant to the provisions
of Section 46-16F of the Code, the applicant is hereby given
notice that the structure for which this variance is granted
will be permitted to be built with the lowest floor elevation
below the base flood elevation~ an~ that the cost of flood
insurance will be commensurats~with the increased risk result-
ing from the reduced lowest fl~'~r elevation.
IT IS FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Secretary to this Board
transmit copies of this determination to the applicant, the
applicant's attorney, and to the Town Building Inspector.
Location of Property: Lot #25, "Map of Willow Point,"
Arshamomaque, Southold, New York. County Tax Map Item
No. 1000-56-5-27.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Tuthill,
Doyen and Goehringer. Absent: Messr. Douglass.
APPEAL NO. 2685. Application of Emanuel and Venita Lorras,
for permission to construct addition with an insufficient rear-
yard setback at premises known as 2135 Bay Avenue, East Marion,
New York.
On motion by Mr. Tuthill, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, that the Secretary request of the Building Depart-
ment information regarding the Flood Damage Prevention Law
and the affects this proposed project may have inasmuch as
this appears to be in a V-5 Flood Zone, a high flood hazard
area. Also, it should be brought to the attention of the
Building Inspector that this project may be considered "sub-
stantial_improvements," reconstruction or improvement of a
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structure, the cost Of which equals or exceeds 50% of the market
value of the existing structure, and that his determination
regarding same be requested.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Tuthill, Doyen and
Goehringer. Absent: Messr. Douglass.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Doyen, it was
RESOLVED, that May t, 1980 at 7:30 o'clock P.M. be set as
the next regular meeting of this Board.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Grigonis, Tuthill, Doyen and
Goehringer. Absent: Messr. Douglass.
The meeting was declared closed at 11:10 o,clOck P.M.
APPROVED
Respectfully submitted,
aiski, Secretary
Southold Town Board of Appeals