HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-12/10/1996SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
DECEMBER 10, 1996
WORK SESSION
Present: Supervisor Jean W. Cochran, COuncilwoman Alice J. Hussie, Councilman
Joseph L. Townsend, Jr., Justice Louisa P. Evans, Councilman William D. Moore,
Town Clerk Judith T. Terry, Town Attorney Laury L. Dowd. Absent:
Councilwoman Ruth D. Oliva (ill).
9:15 A.M. - Solid Waste Coordinator James Bunchuck met with the Board to review
his recently developed Methane Policy for the Landfill Scalehouse. (Copy on file 'n
the Town Clerk's office.)
9:35 A.M. - Public Safety Dispatcher III John Raynor, along with Victor Cassela,
and Ray Edwards, Meteorologists for Brookhaven National Laboratory, met with the
Town Board to request permission to install a radio repeater on the Town's cellular
communication tower in Peconic, to relay data to BNL from instrumentation moorings
located in Peconic Bay for testing related to the Brown Tide Project. The Board
approved the project and a resolution (16) was placed on the agenda.
9:50 A.M. - Town Board placed a resolution (17) on the agenda to advertise for
resumes for the Board of Appeals and Planning Board positions which expire on
December 31, 1996.----Information was received from General Code Publishers Corp.
with regard to PC/Codebook for Windows for the Code of the Town of Southold. A
representative of General Code will be asked to meet with the Board at an upcoming
meeting.----Letter from Save Our Seashore, Inc. inviting the Town to place
Southold's name on their letterhead without charge. The Town Board rejected the
proposal.----~The Town is in receipt of the new proposed franchise agreement with
Cablevision. Town Attorney Dowd and Councilwoman Oliva will review it and report
back to the Board on December 23rd.
EXECUTIVE SESSION
10:00 A.M. On motion of Councilwoman Flussie, seconded by Councilman Townsend,
it was Resolved that the Town Board enter into Executive Session to meet with
Director of Human Services Venetia McKeighan to discuss employment history of an
employee within her jurisdiction. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Supervisor Cochran,
Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Townsend, Justice Evans, Councilman Moore. Also
present: Town Clerk Terry, Town Attorney Dowd, Senior Accountant Cushman.
11:15 A.M. A resolution (19) was placed on the agenda appointing Joseph Santora
to the Substance Abuse Committee, and (20) appointing John C. Cronin, Jr. to the
Landmark Preservation Commission.----The Board set 9:00 A.M., December 30th for
interviews for Anti-Bias Task Force, Architectural Review Committee Hamlet Member,
Mattituck/Laurel, and Conservation Advisory Council.----The applicants for Custodial
Worker were divided into groups of five and each Board member will interview and
short-list. The applicants from outside of Southold Town were eliminated.----
Councilwoman Hussie reviewed a transmittal from Dvirka and Bartilucci with regard
to Section 6 of the Landfill Closure Investigation Report, which provides the
conceptual plan for closure of the Southold Landfill. The plan calls for the Western
Area to be covered with an asphalt surface; the Eastern Area to be covered with
an evapotranspiration cover; and equal consideration will be given to landfill
reclarnati~n.
12:20 P.M. - Recess for lunch.
1:40 P.M. The Work Session recenvened and the Board met with Joseph Gold,
Chairman of the Land Preservation Committee, to discuss Mr. "Gold's submis-
sion of a proposal to the New York State Department of Agriculture and Markets,
whereby the Town proposes a cooperative effort to acquire~ the development rights
to agricultural properties which have been submitted by their owners to the Land
Preservation Committee for sale of such rights to the Town. ----Mr. Gold also
discussed a letter received by the Town Clerk from an individual who wishes to
purchase a portion of a parcel of property owned by the Dickerson family, on'which
the development rights have been purchased by the Town. Town Attorney Dowd
will research the original deed on this property and report back to the Board on
December 23rd.
2:00 P.M. Town Board reviewed the resolutions to be voted on at the 7:30 P.M.
Regular Meeting.
EXECUTIVE SESSION
2:20 P.M. On motion of Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Townsend,
it was Resolved that the Town Board enter into Executive Session to discuss the
Greenport Village v. Town of Southold litigation. Vote of the Board: Ayes:
Supervisor Cochran, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Townsend, Justice Evans,
Councilman Moore. Also present: Town Clerk Terry, Town Attorney Dowd.
3:40 P.M. - Work Session adiourned.
REGULAR MEETING
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held on December
10, 1996, at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York.
Supervisor Cochran opened the meeting at 7:30 P.M. with the Pledge of
Allegiance to the Flag.
Present:
Absent:
Supervisor Jean W. Cochran
Councilwoman Alice J. Hussie
Councilman Joseph L. Townsend, Jr.
JustiCe Louisa P. Evans
Councilman William D. Moore
Town Clerk Judith T. Terry
Town Attorney Laury L. Dowd
Councilwoman Ruth D. Oliva
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN:
December 10, 19967
May a motion to approve the audit of the bills for
Moved by Councilman Moore, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the followincJ bills be and hereby are ordered paid:
General Fund Whole Town bills in the amount of $q70,551.45; General Fund
Part Town bills in the amount of $19,343.89; Community Development Fund
bills in the amount of $40,000.00; Highway Fund Whole Town bills in the
amount of $18,910.58; Highway Fund Part Town bills in the amount of
$65,037.83; Ag Land Development Rights bills in the amount of $120.46;
Hashamomuck Pond Drainage bills in the amount of $32,460.54; Employee
Health Benefit Plan bills in the amount of $68,640.58; Fishers Island Ferry
District bills in the amount of $17,247.96; Refuse & Garbage District bills
in the amount of $75,830.00; Southold Wastewater District bills in the
amount of $18,552.47; Fishers Island Ferry District Agency E Trust bills in
the amount of $920.67.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Approval of the minutes of November 26, 1996.
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DECEMBER 10, 1996
Moved by Councilman Hussle, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the November 26, 1996, Town
meeting be and hereby are approved.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Board
Evans,
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Set the next Town Board meeting for Monday,
December 23, 1996, at 4:30 P.M.
Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it
was
RESOLVED that the next meeting of the Southold Town Board will be
held at 4:30 P.M., Monday, December 23, 1996, at the Town Town Hall,
Southold, New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cool'ran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
I. REPORTS.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: As you can see from the agendas the reports that
have been submitted to the Board in this two week period. If there is
anything you are interested in, you can obtain the information from the
Town Clerk's Office.
1. Southold Town Recreation Department Monthly Report for November,
1996.
2. Southold Town Scavenger Waste Treatment Facility Monthly Report
for November, 1996.
3. Southold Town Justice Bruer's Monthly Court Report for
November, 1996.
Southold Town Community Development Monthly Report for
November, 1996.
1996.
6.
7.
1996.
8.
9.
Southold Town Building Department Monthly Report for November
Southold Town Clerk's Monthly Report for November, 1996.
Southold Town Board of Trustees' Monthly Report for November,
Lawrence Healthcare Town Claim Study Analysis for November, 1996
Lawrence Healthcare PBA Claim Study Analysis for November, 1996.
II. PUBLIC NOTICES. None.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Public notice, we do not have any.
III. COMMUNICATIONS.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Communications, we had an especially nice letter
from a resident in relation the Human Resource Center, and of course, we
get those off and on.
1. Troy LoCascio, Assistant General Manager, East End
Cablevislon. announcing new services.
2. June M. Smith expressing appreciation for the Senior
Program at the Human Resource Center.
Systems,
Day Care
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS. None.
V. RESOLUTIONS.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: As you know we have a Town Board policy, that
you may address the Town Board on any resolutions printed on the agenda.
If your business with the Town is something other than what is in the
resolutions, you have the opportunity to address the Board on town
business at the end of the meeting. There are no public hearings. This is
a busy time of year for everyone, so sometimes you think it lightens up our
work, but we still have lots of work to do, although the meeting may be not
quite as hectic as some days. We start with the resolutions. Does anyone
want to address the Board in relation to the resolutions? Frank?
DECEMBER 10, 1996
FRANK CARLIN: Item 16 on that antenna going on that tower, do we get
any money for putting that up there, or just what?
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: The ones that are up there we do get payment
on, Frank, but this one we will not, because we opted not to. The
research they are doing is for the Brown Tide, which benefits all of us. Is
there anyone else that would like to address the Board in relation to any of
the resolutions that are on for this evening? (No response.) I would just
llke to make note that Councilwoman Oliva isn't with us this evening.
She's got that bug, or virus, Whatever it is, the same as many people have,
and hopefully she'll get well soon, and as many of our residents, enjoy the
holidays. Hearing no comments in relation to resolutions, we will begin
passage of the resolutions.
1.-Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED l~'hat the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby releases
the $10,000 Letter of Credit posted as a performance guarantee by Frank
Cichanowcz III for the Wild Oats major subdivision at Peconlc, whereas the
firewell, for which the $10,000 performance bond was required, is no
longer required by the Southold Fire District; foregoing all in accordance
with the recommendation of the Southold Town Planning Board.
1.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
2.-Moved by Councilman Moore, seconded by Councilwoman Hussle, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of South01d hereby
authorizes and directs Supervisor Jean W. Cochran to execute a Public
Goods Surcharge/Covered Lives Election Form to the New York State
Department of Health, which under certain provisions of Chapter 639 of the
Laws of 1996, the New York State Health Care Reform Act, will be a
significant economic advantage to the Town of Southold.
2.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
3.-Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Moore, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes the following budget modification to the General Fund Whole Town
Recreation 1996 budget:
FROM:
A7180.4.100.100
TO:
A7020. ;J,. 400.150
A7020.4. 100.150
A7020.4. 500. 440
A7180.4.600.300
A7310.4.600.200
(Lifeguard Supplies)
$ 1,433.70
(Vehicle Maintenance g Repairs) $ 621.01
(Youth Program Supplies) 100.00
(Basketball Program) 400.00
(Beach Employee Mileage) 258.30
(Youth Expo) 5Lt. 39
3. -Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
q.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes the submission of a proposal to the New York State Department of
Agriculture and Markets, whereby the Town of Southold proposes a
cooperative effort to acquire the development rights to agricultural
properties which have been submitted by their owners to the Land
Preservation Committee of the Town of Southold for sale of such rights to
the Town.
4.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
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5.-Moved by Councilwoman Hus::ie, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Tow~ Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes and directs Sul~ervisor Jean W. Cochran to execute a lease
agreement between the To'~n of Southold and Randall J. Felnberg for
winter storage of equipment for the period from December 1, 1996 through
April 1, 1997, at a rental of $500.00 per month, no to exceed $2,000.00 for
the term, said agreement all in accordance with the approval of the Town
Attorney.
5.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice EYans,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
6.-Moved by Councilman Moore~ seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was
RESOLVED tha,t the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes the following modification to the General Fund Whole Town 1996
budget: To:
A. 1680.4'. 400.350
From:
A.1680.1.200.100
Central Data Processing
Hardware maintenance
AS/400 Maintenance
$ 3800.00
Central Data Processing
P~rsonal Services
P;.'.r-t Time Regular Earnings $ 3800.00
6. -Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Evans,
7.-Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Moore, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes and directs Supervisor Jean W. Cochran to execute an amended
agreement between the Town of Southold and the North Fork Housing
Alliance, Inc. for the Home Improvement Program for Low Income Private
Homeowners, funded by the 1996 Community Development Block Grant
Program, to be administered by the North Fork Housing Alliance, Inc. for
the sum of $92,500.00.
COUNCILMAN MOORE: This is basically the same as the one we did last
meeting or two meetings ago. Anyway, we had to specify the program
funds, and administrative fees on this resolution.
7. - Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussle, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
Evans,
8.-Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie. it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes and directs Supervisor Jean W. Cochran and Deputy Supervisor
William D. Moore to sign the European American Bank "Authorization of
Lodge" form, as part of the Town of Southold Community Development Block
Grant- Housing Rehabilitation Program.
8. - Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
9.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussle, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants
permission to Town Justice Rudolph H. Bruer to attend a two-day seminar
on Practical Evidence and Sentencing, sponsored by the New York State Bar
Association, on November 21 and 22, 1996, at New York City, and the
$260.00 in expenses for the seminar shall be a legal charge to the Justice
Court 1996 budget.
9.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
10.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Boa rd of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes and directs Supervisor Jean W. Cochran to execute an agreement
between Albert J. Krupski, Jr. and the Town of Southold for an easement
over the Krupski land located on the west side of Skunk Lane, Cutchogue,
for a ten (10) year period, December 10, 1996 through December 10, 2006,
for an annual sum of $800.00; said agreement all in accordance with the
approval of the Town Attorney.
10. - Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
l l.-Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes and"directs'Supervisor Jean W. Cochran to execute an agreement
between Mary Elizabeth Gilbert and the Town of Southold for a easement
over the Gilbert land located at the southwest corner of Eugene's Road and
Skunk Lane, Cutchogue, for a ten (10) year period, December 10, 1996
through December 10, 2006; said agreement all in accordance with the
approval of the Town Attorney.
11 . - Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans,
Councilman Townsend, Cou~cilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly A' OPTED.
12.- Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilwoman_ Hussie, it
was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby amends
resolution no. 30, adopted on October 15, 1996, with regard to granting
permission to use town roads to the Southold Village Merchants for a "Santa
Parade" which was cancelled due to rain, by changing the date to Saturday,
December 14, 1996, provided they file with the Town Clerk a One Million
Dollar Certificate of Liability Insurance naming the Town of Southold as an
additional insured.
12.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
13.- Moved by Councilman Moore, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes and directs the Town Attorney to draw upon the $300,000
Performance Bond posted as a guarantee by R.E.C. Realty Company for the
Richmond Shores major subdivision at Peconic, if the performance bond
extension is not received by the Town Clerk by Noon of December 18, 1996.
13.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
14.-Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes and directs Supervisor Jean W. Cochran to execute a Well System
Maintenance Agreement between Harold's and the Fishers Island Sewer
District, all in accordance with the approval of the Town Attorney.
14.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
15.-Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Moore, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southotd hereby grants
permission to Personnel Assistant Barbara Rudder to attend a New York
State Health Insurance Program Regional Meeting for Participating Agencies
at Medford, N.Y., from 1:00 P.M. to 3:00 P.M., Tuesday, December 17,
1996, and the necessary expenses for lunch and travel, using a Town
Vehicle, shall be a legal charge to the Accounting & Financing Department's
1996 budget.
15. - Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
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16.-Moved by Councilman Moore, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants
permission to Brookhaven National Laboratory Meteorology Department to
install a radio repeater on the Town's cellular communication tower in
Peconic, provided they file with the Town Clerk a One Million Dollar
Certificate of Liability naming the town of Southold as an additional
insured.
16.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans,
CounCilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
17.-Mo~ed by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby
authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to advertise for resumes for one
member of the Board of Appeals and one member of the Planning Board, for
five year terms, effective January 1, 1997 through December 31, 2001.
17.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
18.-Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Moore, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby amends
the salary scale for the position
effective January 1, 1997:
Entry Level $ 19,900.00
Step 1 $ 28,373.70
Step 2 $ 28,872.27
Step 3 $ 29,374.03
Step 4 $ 30,974.78
Step 5 $ 32,687.97
18.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman
of Neighborhood Aide, as follows,
Moore, Justice Evans,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
19.-Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints
Joseph Santora, A.C.S.W. to the Southold Town Substance Abuse
Committee, effective immediately through October 211, 1997, he to serve
without corn pensation.
19.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
20.-Moved by Councilman Moore, seconded by Justice Evans, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints
John C. Cronin, Jr., P.E. to the Landmark Preservation Commission, to
replace Josephine Boyd, effective ~mmediately through April 5, 1998.
20. -Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans,
Councl man Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: That is the end of our proposed resolutions.
Before I ask for comments from the audience on Town business this evening,
I would like to introduce the Scouts that are here earning badges. Would
you like to stand and introduce yourselves to the Board? Let's see how you
do this government stuff. (Eric Olsen, Jamie Schultz, Andrew Greg)
Thank you. Please, feel free to join us anytime. Is there any members of
the public who would like to make a comment to the Town Board on Town
business? Yes, Mr. Carlin?
FRANK CARLIN: Evening, ladies and gentlemen of the Board. It seems
odd to say my name, because I have been coming up here for over twenty
years. You should know me by now, but i guess that is the way it goes.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: To transcribe the minutes. They don't know if
you're speaking, or someone else.
DECEMBER 10, 1996
FRANK CARLIN: Frank Carlin. Just things I'd like to speak on this
evening to wind up this year. One thing I'm going to change. This past
year I've used my battleship, and fired off sixteen guns. Well, I'm going to
change next year. I'm going to put that battleship in the dry dock, and
I'm going to go to my atomic submarine. It has torpedoes~ and missiles.
That's what I will be using next year. Joe, Councilman Joe Townsend, I
was thinking the other day how you and I can make some money. Why don't
you and I open up a fast food restaurant in AF, P shopping center? We could
call it, Frank and Joe's drive-through hamburgers. What do you think about
that, Joe?
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: It is a legal use. I don't know about the
drive-through part, but the fast food part is legal.
FRANK CARLIN: I shouldn't think the drive-through would be much
trouble, because you have got..
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND:
you?
Aren't you afraid McDonald's is going to fire
FRANK CARLIN: I didn't say it was going to be a McDonald's. You got
a drive-through on the west end of the shopping center, and you got a
bank, and you got a drive-through bank on the east end of the shopping
center. I don't think it will be much of a problem. If it was, it would be
a double standard. One more item, Joe, you mentioned the last Board
meeting when I was here, that five police officers will be retiring next
year. Maybe, right? You have that feeling they might be retiring?
-COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND:' I think I said, there's a possibility, but we
were expected probably retiring. There could be as many as five, but I
think we were expected two.
FRANK CARLIN: It could be as many as five, but you know two. Let's
say that five did retire. Now, you expect six coming out of the academy in
March. If five did retire, that only leaves us with one, that we gained
from the academy. Right? Because if we are going to lose five, and simple
arithmetic five from six equals one. So, actually then, if that happens we
wouldn't be gaining too many police officers anyway, would we? We would
be back to square one.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND:
replace those officers.
Generally, what we would have to do is
FRANK CARLIN: How are we going to replace them, when you have six?
What I'm getting at, Joe, is this, plain speaking, without beating around
the bush, if that ever happens we would be back to almost square one, and
we would be back to square one on all the overtime that we've been
spending this year on police overtime. Is that right? Because we always
would be back where we started. I'm not taking into account all the
overtime from November, 1994. Forget that. I'll throw that in as a freebie.
I talking about..and no one on the Board is going to tell me, that-police
overtime for this year did have an affect on our budget. No one is going to
tell me it didn't have an effect, because you know when you work overtime,
I'm talking roughly about $40.00 an hour overtime. Roughly. What I'm
saying is, did we plan for this, or did we allow, hey, maybe we might have
five? If we do have five, we are only going to have one, plus maybe one or
two we hired outside the academy. I don't know, we might have a couple.
We hired extra there, or one from Greenport. Even if we have two, you are
down to four. We really aren't going to be that great in bringing our
manpower up. We're not going to do that great. Let's be honest with
ourselves.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Frank, people retire, and hopefully when they
retire they give you a little notice, so that we have a couple months
notice, when they firmly decide to retire, which would give us lea time to
hire, and possible to train, depending on how much time they give us. We
don't know how many. None may retire. No one is forcing anyone to retire,
so none may retire. We are just planning on the possibility of a couple of
retirements. It looks like there is a strong possibility for a couple, and
lesser possibility for a few more. But, should that happen we hope we will
be able to replace them.
FRANK CARLIN: Joe, you don't replace all the men. That's what I'm
trying to say. It's been almost a year. How are you going to replace them?
The next class starts in six months after that. It will take them a year to
get on the road. That's what I'm trying to say. You don't do these things
overnight. I can see it, if this happens, back where we started with our
overtime again for next year. Let's hope it doesn't happen. But maybe it
won't. Maybe it will. I don't know. Can anybody on this Board tell me how
much we spent this year up until now on police overtime? Nobody?
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: It's still going on.
FRANK CARLIN: I mean up until now.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: One of the problems we have with our system
is that, the way we are monitoring all the time right now, it's very
difficult to tell on a day .to day basis what your overtime ~s, because we
save up all the overtime, and then it's submitted to the accountant-for
payment, so you get it in big lumps. We're trying to correct that. That's
one of the things, I think, we have to get a handle on in order to
effectively manage the department. We have to know what kind of overtime
expenses we're accruing, so we can adjust more rapidly. I think to answer
your question, it was probably in the neighborhood of $600,000.
COUNCILMAN MOORE: Close to $600,000.
FRANK CARLIN: But you ought to be able to go to the Police Chief, and
say, Chief, as of this date, and he already has it in his records how much
hours, and overtime, or money, or hours we spent.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Frank, if you want that information we will try,
and get it for you.
FRANK CARLIN: I would llke to have it.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Do you want it up to this month, or do you want
to wait, and get it through the whole year? It's up to you, because it will
change before the end of the year.
FRANK CARLIN: You gave me enough information, $600,000.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: That's approximate.
FRANK CARLIN: That will satisfy me.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: The year end we can get you that information.
FRANK CARLIN: I'm not going to go back into '95. One thing I like
about coming to these Board meetings this year is that people are allowed to
speak without someone, and I don't want to mention no names, without
someone pushing a timer in front of their face, a five minute timer, and yet
to throw fuel on the fire, and have them cut you off. One thing I see that
I llke about coming to the Board meetings this year, that doesn't happen.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Frank, you know in all honesty, my philosophy is
I feel if people have a burning question, or a burning issue, they have to
be allowed to express it. But, you know there are times when I have to
kind of pull you in a little bit. You know, you or some of the other
people, because you know five, ten, fifteen minutes we're being gracious.
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FRANK CARLIN: You have to admit though~ that my issues are mostly
issues, and facts. I don't go for personal attacks on people. I don't
believe in that. Mine are facts, and matters for the Town and the Board.
You would be surprised at how many people used to tell me, and mention
about that. They noticed that. Well, I have one more thing. I'm not
firing any torpedoes or missiles. I'm just cruising around in my submarine
tonight a little bit. It's too close to the holidays. I'll be finished in a
minute. I happen to read Mr. Hickey's article in the paper last week. I
don't want to comment on that, but it struck something in my mind. You
know, it's too bad the North Fork .Environmental Council aren't looking into
things like that. That didn't happen overnight. Instead of worrying about
preventing us from having a McDonald's in Mattituck rot five years. That
should have been issue. That should have been looked into, instead of
walking around the town carrying signs. I don't usually do this, but it's a
fact. Those are the issues. Finally I want to wish you alt a Merry
Christmas, and a Happy New Year, and good health. The reason why I
say, health, is because all the money, and all the power doesn't mean
nothing if you don't have your health. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: That's very true, Frank. Thank you. You,
also, have a Happy Holiday.
PHIL VANBOURCONDIEN: Phil VanBourgondien, Southold. Cood
evening, ladies and gentlemen. I'm over on the wrong side of the tracks
tonight, so I'm on the hot side. Now, I'm on the right side. I just moved
over. It's really nice to know that you are going to have a sweet, lovable
Frank here for the next year, Mr. Carlin with his submarine. The only
thing that I have tonight as Frank was talking about the police department,
and I mentioned this before. In Bayshore, in Patchogue, Southampton,
in Riverhead, we have pedestrian crosswalks. They require policeman to
be there, whether full-tlme, part-time, or summer rent-a-cop, as we call
them, is not required. The nine months of the year in the hamlets I think
it would be much safer if we had pedestrian crosswalks, becaus~ it's very,
very difficult at times to get across the streets, at the churches, on the
Main Road, Mattltuck, Greenport, wherever we have a hamlet center, and if
we had these pedestrian crosswalks, we wouldn't require the services of a
temporary poi.iceman, full-time policeman, whatever it may be. If it turns
out as the discussion was tonight, if we're not going to end up with more
policemen, we could cut down on expenses by not having to hire the
summertime part-timers, and in the other nine months of the year it would
considerably safer for people going back and forth in front of the churches,
and the stores, if we had pedestrian crosswalks, where ali automobiles must
stop while people cross over. I think it's a money saving thing, but I,
also, basically think it's much safer to have them for the nine months of
the year, other than summer, than the way it is now, where we have to
dart back and forth across the street. I thank you, and Happy Holidays to
everyone.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: To you also.
LISA TUTHILL: I would like to introduce myself. I am Lisa Tuthill. I'm
the Director of Human and Social Services at CAST, Community Action in
Southold Town. I am here representing the families that rely on CAST for
emergency assistance. CAST services Iow-income working families in the
Town of Southold faced with emergency situations. CAST has been able to
provide emergency food to those in need as well as provide a
breakfast/lunch program during school vacations. We would like to request
Emergency Assistance competitive grant program, so that CAST may continue
to operate emergency food programs as well as a food pantry. CAST has
been affected drastically due to the cap on community development funds for
public assistance programs. CAST has felt this effect recently when funding
for our emergency food and assistance programs were cut by $7,800.00.
Although Community Development Block Grant funds continue to support
North Fork Housing Alliance this past year has been the first year in more
than 10 years that CAST has been cut from the Town Budget. We have
been struggling to keep our food panty operational. This fall CAST
experienced a devastating loss when the food pantry was flooded during a
Northeaster storm and large quantities of food were lost. It has been
extremely difficult to keep our program running on the private donations
and small FEMA grant while the demand and the requests for our serwces
has been continually increasing. CAST hopes to be able to continue to
assist Southold Town residents faced with emergencies. We need the
competitive grant program funds now more than ever particularly with the
implementation of sanctions via Welfare Reform to be able to continue to
provide services in emergency situations. Because of cuts to cash benefits,
now families have even fewer resources to meet the same needs. Families
are in such dire straits that they often must choose between necessities of
llfe. Our agency and the emergency assistance programs we have in place
assist clients with these needs while working toward solving the root
problem. We are requesting $8,500.00 for the continuation of CAST's
emergency support programs and to keep the emergency food pantry at
CAST operational.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: You didn't apply to the Town Grant Program?
LISA TUTHILL: No, that's what we're asking for now.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: You have to come in, and get an application from
the Town Clerk, which is an application for the grant. There are some
funds left. One organization was just going to put something in, and that
was the food pantry, I think we suggested for them also. There's about
$10,000 left in that budget line, and I don't know what they are applying
for, but come in tomorrow and get a form. We can look at. I thought you
had submitted an application earlier in the year: You hadn't? Not for this
program. Mr. Hickey?
JIM HICKEY: Jim Hickey, Mattituck. I just want to get a story
straight. Someone came up to me the aLber day, and asked why I waited so
long. He seemed to think it was political. Number one, I bought my house
from the Riverhead Holding Corporation. It was a foreclosure in 1990. I
paid cash. The previous owner paid a quarter of million dollars, bought it
off Mr. Murphy, and lost it six months later. In 1991 my mother had a
very bad fall, and she was in constant pain. She broke her arm, the
socket that goes into the shoulder. It snapped right off, and the surgeons
couldn't operate because of her age. I intended to retire at the mandatory
age of 62, but she became a problem, and I had to retire early, two and a
half years early. It got worse. She needed care twenty four hours a day.
That's where my time went. She was eventually confined to a wheelchair.
The last thing I had on my mind was people bumping next to my property.
After she passed away I became a little reclusive for awhile. She was with
me for sixtY-one years. You sort of get attached to someone. When
McDonalds started clearing of the land, I used to spend my time over 'there.
I became very friendly with the contractor, and the builder. One day I saw
a certain subject soliciting, any kind of filth for the kettle hole, roots,
anything you want to put in, put in. Apparently this man has a problem
remembering things, because he also owned a caterpillar payloader, and
personally covered debris, or his son did. I became concerned after a Town
worker approached me wanting me to be a complainant, which I'm sure you
are familiar with. He couldn't do that. He couldn't be the complainer,
because he claimed he would get retaliation from the Town Board. It's very
political. I came before the WJckham administration. I believe these people
remember, I have it on tape, at a Town Board meeting. But, apparently
the Town Board was more concerned with getting the YMCA at Laurel Lake
than my problem. Over that year I purchased a Morton building. I went to
contract. The site needed fill. I purchased twenty yards of sand from a
local contractor, delivered by this man, and then he came, and said, Jim,
where does your property go? I told him, right up to that illegal dump
next to my property. I, also, told him someday it's going to end.
Apparently he saw me at the Board meeting, and he thought it was a big
joke, because two weeks later he is still dumping. His name will come out
in front of a Grand Jury. After reading the article in The Suffolk Times by
Mr. Kelly here, my hair went up on the back of neck. I came to this Board
meeting in reference to the safety of the LILCO gas compression station.
I then contacted Suffolk County Health Department, and I got the usual, it's
a Town problem. Seeing as it's a Town problem, I went to the Town. I
then contacted the DEC, and the rest is 'history. If this becomes political,
so be it. Due to the previous Board's inaction to take action I will be
considering a form of compensation for the devaluation of my property. If
the well becomes contaminated, which I have two of, a possible class action
suit on my behalf and others, possibly forcing the Town to foot the bill to
put the water main up Old Main Road, and hook up as a resident, which will
be a cost to the Town, and Mrs. Hussie, since you seem to be the fiscal
person on this Board from what I can see, you do very well .with figures,
how much money do you think the Town had lost in tipping fees at this
illegal dump at $9(].00 a ton? I'm serious. I figure $300,000.
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: No, nowhere near that.
or shall I wait until you are done?
JIM HICKEY: Did you look at the site I'm
physically look at them?
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Yes, we looked at it.
Do you want an answer,
talking about? Did you
JIM HICKEY: The DEC was looking at it Sunday, and they were also there
today, and you also said, by law there should be a sign posted out there,
no dumping. That's a State Law, what the town should be looking into.
That's about all I have to say on that subject. The other subject is the
Suffolk Times photo on the front page of this issue. I think it is very
offensive and degrading, and so do a lot of other of neighbors, to show a
person walking dogs through a cemetery this time of year, while most people
of putting down wreaths, grave blankets, etc., they don't want to see a dog
urinating on a headstone, or putting droppings on a grave. I want to know
if the Town has any ordinance against this policy of walking pets through
cemeteries?
TOWN ATTORNEY DOWD: No, we do not.
JIM HICKEY: You don't? Well, then 1 personally tt~ink you should take up
a resolution and pass an ordinance prohibiting the walking of pets through a
cemetery. I, also, think Troy should apologize to the people.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Thank you, Mr. Hickey.
who would like to address the Board?
Is there anyone else
JAY GARGANI: Jay Gargani, Southold. In the last two Presidential
Elections, we heard that phrase quite ugly, it's the economies is too big,
and have a total disregard for the word stupid, but the rest of that phrase
is quite substantial, and I'm questioning it's application to this town.
Now, ~vhen you look in the Suffolk Times, and you see work wanted columns
equal-, or exceeding work being offered, it makes one wonder. With all the
empty stores that exist throughout this town, it just makes me wonder really
what is the economic health of this town, and further, I would like to say,
even though you people are a governing Board of citizens, nevertheless in
your day to day activities of managing this town, or engage really as an
corporate business, and you have to be, and since most large businesses, or
corporations, or whatever, do produce financial statements from time to
time, actually showing the balance of how things are going, I think it would
be a good idea if we had State of the Town message here on an annual, or
semi-annual basis, and of course that would come from Jean Cochran, or
that office (tape change.) I would like to see some very positive,
innovative suggestions from this Board. Take this from someplace to
someplace, and it just doesn't seem like that is t~appening here.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: If I may give you a little insight to some of what is
going on. We did receive a grant from the County for $li,000. to do a
survey, of which we have gotten the results back, but is just about that,
the state of business in Southold Town. I'm getting a group together now,
that Will be planning a seminar for all businesses, any businessman, that
wants to attend. That will probably be held in February, the winter
months. I have had many offers from, be it County, or State, or even
Federal departments that are willing to come in, and give support, and help,
and so on, and so forth, for developing, and looking at, and determining
what exactly is the economic base of Southold. I think some of that is
going to surprised us. What is interesting, we just put in the paper an
advertisement for a job as custodian. We have over 80 applications, 80
applications, and we are going to interview. I said, how can you analyze
that? Is it that middle level job, is it here in Southold for enough
people, and the job here is relatively, not the best pay in the world, but
it is a decent salary, and the benefits are good. So, there is lots we have
to look at, when you get eighty some odd people looking for a job as a
custodian. Joe had some thoughts on how you could analyze all this. We are
as concerned with the economics of Southold, as we are with the laws, and
the zoning, and everything else. So, we will be giving that our full
attention this coming year.
JAY GARGANI: I don't really think many citizens 'n this town, including
myself, really know the economic data of this town. You know, we hear so
much on national levels about foreclosures, and everything else, the doom
and gloom of empty stores, I think it would be really inspirational if they
heard from the town on the economic forecast.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: It was surprising the questionnaires, that we
received back from the businesses. If you peruse them quickly, and we
haven't done that as a group yet, because it's going to be a part of thi:s
summit, and this whole program, but the health of the community appears to
be, or the economics of the community appears to be fairly healthy. I was
amazed. It just seems to be on an even keel, but I still think there are
certain types of jobs we do need.
JAY GARGANI: I would appreciate that you keep that matter in focus.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: We certainly will. It's important. You can't allow
a town or a community to become stagnant. We have to continue to develop,
and grow. I think our concern is controlling that growth and development,
but I think you have to continue to allow for change, be it in economics, so
that a community stays viable and healthy. Most of your community have
Chambers. There is also the Southold Town Promotion Committee, of which I
went to their meeting the other day. They have a new chairman, and Ned
Brashich and Rita Collln are co-chairpeople, and they sat, and they
developed their mission statement, and some of the goals and objectives,
that they would like to obtain. So, there are things happening. So,
hopefully in the near future we'l be able to give you some more distinct
facts, and directions that the town can move to maintain some of our healthy
economics. Is there anyone else who would like to address the Town
Board? Yes, sir?
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JIM OLSEN: I~m Jim Olsen of Laurel, and I give the Board credit for
having to listen to the community once in awhile. I sat on the School Board
for awhile. I think I want to thank the Supervisor and the Board for the
proclamation, and the presence of Mrs. Cochran at the last Eagle Court of
Honor, that we had for Troop 39. It was very much appreciated. Although
)f introducing letters of commendation comes down from
local, we save the best for last. Thank you, Mrs.
~r question comes up with CAST being involved with the
b Scouts. Is there anybody on a volunteer basis, or as
own, that coordinates or gets involved with the various
ions to coordinate efforts? I am thinking on part that
oct food in the springtime. The Cub Scouts do it in the
th the Lions Club in Mattituck, when we do that. We
take the food up t~ the community bank up in Riverhead too. I'm not sure
exactly just where llt goes from that point The United Council of Churches,
we've had an Eag~ project, which is ongoing through the Ioca! churches,
but hearing that ~there is a shortage of food, sometimes we distribute to
Parish Outreach, a~d to the local churches at the present time, but knowing
there is an extended need in the town I was unaware of something like this,
and if there was s~)me body that could be an ombudsman, I mean we would
like to know that, because I've got a group of boys that they pay their
dues. They do it without looking for recognition on things, and we get
involved with these things. So, if there is such a group, or person, I would
like to know about it.
SUPERVISOR COC
coordinate these thl
iRAN: That's worth a thought, a coordinator to
ngs. There's a lot of sharing volunteer groups ,could do.
DECEMBER 10, 1996
COUNCILMAN MOORE: My understanding is, the North Fork Parish
Outreach has played the role of ombudsman in the past, at least in volunteer
groups in which IBm a member, they've reached out to them, and said, hey,
give us a list of families who need food baskets, or what have you, and it
seems to be that one group makes sure that others aren't duplicating efforts
of a variety of volunteer services. It may not be the right place to send
you as coordinator, but that is one where we have been in the past. I'm
speaking for the Southold Rotary Club for example, gets them a list of
names where we can do our bit.
JIM OLSEN: ! see your point on that, but I've dealt with them before,
and I can't get into the nitty gritty, but if t can provide the goods,
that they need, and hearing that it extends beyond, I was originally in
Greenport. Going to CAST would not be out of the question, but the
Mattituck unit I belong to, so I'm saying it reaches the whole town.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: It's networking that is lacking. Is there anyone
else, who would like to address the Town Board? (No response-) If not,
before I call on the Town -Board for reports I would like to make a
clarification. We have had many, and I say many, phone calls 'n relation to
a development of a property up on the North Road. The Humpty Dumpty
Farm I believe it's called. It's being dug out for greenhouses- Now, we have
had many, many phone calls. In fact, I had one this weekend on my tape,
and unfortunately they didn't leave a name or number, so I could not return
the call. But, we certainly have been keeping an eye on this, and the
greenhouse has finally been placed in this hole that they have dug out, and
we thought maybe it was going to be the swimming pool for a while, it was
deep. I'm just being facetious, but the greenhouse is now in there. It's a
new concept for greenhouses, it's called a solar greenhouse, and they put
the greenhouse below the frost line. So, there had to be a Jot of sand
taken out of that, but the greenhouse now fits. The entire length of the
hole is filled with the greenhouse, so they figured pretty well. People that
were concerned, the greenhouse has been put into place, and it was not a
mining operation. I would like to call on the Town Board. Any reports?
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Since it's appropriate to what Mr. Gargani
raised about the economy, and what you were saying about business studies,
and so forth, last night we had a meeting of the Planning and Zoning
Committee, and the Planning and Zoning Committee has been involved for
over a year now looking at business zoning in town. It started out as a
follow-up of the Task Force, the Stewardship Task Force recommendation,
that we pretty much eliminate zoning up on the North Road. We looked at
that. What is felt is that if you allow strip development to grow on the
North Road, you are not necessarily going to help the economic health of the
community. What you will do is develop some successful stores.on the North
Road, such as what has happened in Riverhead weaken the hamlet centers.
So, we looked at that, and we're'trying to solve that problem, but in doing
that we realize that businesses need help in this town. What we are trying
to do is to figure out appropriate uses, that might add to the things that
Southold can offer as to opposed to just eliminate things. Last night we
worked on the LI, which is Light Industrial, and Light Industrial Office,
zones that we have. We have a fair amount of property with that zoning,
and a lot of it is undeveloped. One of the reasons, I think, that it is
undeveloped is that it is very difficult to put a large office park or
industrial complex ~n Southold Town, because of the nature of our
geography. We are out on the end of the cul de sac, and no one wants to
open up a big center like that out here, and it's probably good for us if
they don't in some respects. So, after looking at what industries are out
here, and tourist related facilities are, and what we are thinking is, there
is no area out here where there is sort of a large tennis court complex, or
riding stable, or things like that, maybe driving range, or things llke
that. We have no place for those properties, so we are thinking about
adding that to certain industrial zones. We are also figuring out ways to
which we can help marinas by putting boat yards, or allowing boat repairs,
so you don't have to use prime waterfront property for boat storage and
boat repair. It is sort of a waste of prime property. These are the kinds of
things we're working on. I think within a couple of weeks we will have the
recommendations to go to the Town Board, the Code Committee. Hopefully,
within a month or so we'll have this part of the job done. You mentioned
economic health for this end of the island. It is funny I was looking in
Newsday, and noticed Long Island has an unemployment rate that is
probably 2% below the rest of the country. We are doing better than most
of the country right now. We are at a high. Long Island is at a high.
Above that most of us know that there's a large underground community in
this area, a lot of people underground. I guess it's underground working
commul31ty. A lot of people work off the books. I'm not pointing fingers, and
saying, it!s a bad thing, it's just a fact of life out here, and a second
job, water related jobs. One of the reasons I think we got so many
responses to the ad for custodian is, that no one offers a pension anymore.
Very few people offer Pensions in that kind of trade, maintenance, building
trade. Everybody can work, but you don't get the advantages you get with
the towns, job security, and good health plan, because those things are too
costly: for local employers to provide. Anyway, we hope to able to improve
the economy with this change of use, and protect the environment. It's a
two prong tact. With that I will go back to you.
JAY GARGANI: '1 just want to say that I'm looking for forward movement,
but that is not to interpreted as full speed ahead. I don't want the
cosmetics of the town to uprooted.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Your point is well taken. William?
COUNCILMAN MOORE: Looking at our calendar for the month of December,
it has been a very busy month, and will continue to be busy. I'm not going
to talk about the substance of a meeting, but this entire Town Board sat
down last week with the Village Trustees, the Village of Greenport, in a all
day session to discuss an item of mutual importance. It was a very good
meeting, and hopefully we'll build on that meeting, but the Board as a whole
is very busy in doing that, and it was significant amount of dedication from
all six Board members. Upcoming in the next week the Police Management
Advisory Committee, which I'm the Chairman, will be meeting, looking at
computer programs to help analyze police data, so that when we have the
right number of police officers in place we can put them where they are
supposed to' be, and hopefully, in a cost effective manner police the
community as we're supposed to. The Code Committee is a neat place. I
mean you get to see all kinds of things- Oyster harvest limits, the
Trustees have suggested we change the way in which we count our
oysters. We are looking at that, and we're also going to Io~k at some
comments that are raised about the Farmers Bill of Rights, so that's on the
agenda coming up in the next week to the Code Committee. That's it.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: It sounds like you have a lot of work in that
committee. Louisa, everything is quiet on Fishers Island?
JUSTICE EVANS It's not quiet, but there probably is not as much interest
to most people out in the audience. The cable doesn't come to Fishers
Island, so they can't see the meetings, and what goes on.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN:
Fishers Island.
We ought to make tapes, and send tapes to
JUSTICE EVANS: They do. They put them h~ the library. There's not a
lot of great interest.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: Alice?
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: I would llke to say that I am very happy we're
going to have our first meeting of the Swimming Pool Feasibility Committee
tomorrow night at 7:00 o'clock here in Town Hall. I, also, want to call
your attention to an item on our discussion list, number ten, which talks
about the landfill closure plan. This is something we haven't been talking
about very much, but if you recall when we had the awsuit along with
Easthampton, and Riverhead, against the DEC saying we don't want to
close our landfill, we finally did settle, and one of the stipulations was,
thou shalt settle, and thou shalt cap. So, we have to do a tot of
preliminary things before we get to that point. I did want to inform you
though, that we are going to ask the DEC to look at alternatives to a geo
membrane, which is just a big plastic thing over this mound of garbage,
which is very .expensive, and as far as I'm concerned not pretty. It would
not necessarily be a great asset to the Town, so the two things that we're
asking the DEC to look at, is evapotranspiration cap, which means put
down some soil that will be sustaining to flora, and they plant trees, and
shrubs, and whatever that will have a high transpiration rate, so that the
rain that comes down is collected in the dirt, and then it's quickly gone
out to the leaf, and it doesn't sink all the way through. It's
evapotranspiration. I had to say that two times, because it took me two
weeks to figure out how to pronounce it. I always wanted to say
transportation. The other possibility would be landfill reclamation, which
would be a matter of digging out the garbage, that we've been putting there
for a number of years, separating it, and getting rid of it. Then being
able to use the land that is left for something useful. Preliminary tests
have shown, both here in the Souti~old Landfill, and also "n places
elsewhere, that very often landfills are forty to forty-five percent dirt;
because what had been happening is that people w0ul(~ dump stuff in the
landfill, and then the town, or the village, or whatever it is, would come,
and fill it over with sand and dirt. So. the expense as some people
calculate it would not be any greater than the geo membrane. Anyway, I
thought you would like to know about that, because eventually,
unfortunately, you and I will be paying for it.
JAY GARGANI: Can I ask you, Alice, in the foreseeable future will be
dump site remain a feasible operation for the citizenry of the town as it is
now? I mean, we all rely on it. Is that going to continue?
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: The operation is going to be a transfer station,
and you will continue. The Board has decided that you will continue as you
are now. It will accept leaves and brush, and will be turned into compost,
separating the recyclables, and the recyclables will be shipped out of
town, because obviously we keep them.
JAY GARGANI:
time I go?
What is all this repositioning of piles, that I see every
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: Those are the piles, the leaves that you bring,
and some of the small twigs and things are composted, and in th~ composting
process they have to kind of be turned, and they are put through this
trommel screen that we recently bought, and sifted so to speak, and the
different stages of sifting are those different piles, and they are moved
around. That is what you are seeing.
JAY GARGANI: I know garbage bags are going down, I'm hoping the
annual sticker doesn't go up.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: It won't go up, because we are already issuing
them. They are the same as last year.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: I would just like to share with you some of the
things that I have been doing over the past couple of weeks, and I did
attend the Eagle Scout Award in Mattituck, and you didn't mention the
young man's name, so if I may, Peter Druck, so that it is in the town
records forever and a day. Our congratulations once again to him. Also, I
attended a meeting in Riverhead. It was chaired by George Proios, who is
a deputy to County Executive Gaffney. They have about $5,000,000 of
which we are trying to get our fair share for farmland. It's not a
tremendous amount of money, but all five east end towns are opting for
their share, so Joe Gold and I went in to put in our bid for Southold.
Also, I attended Monday night at the Eastern Campus, the Eastern Long
Island Executives' Round table. They have different topics once a month,
and they are fairly good and informative, so I do feel like I come away with
some new information. As Bill mentioned we met with Greenport, and we will
be meeting again with them on the 23rd. I have a department head
meeting once a month, and we discuss common areas of concern, and I think
it gives us a better way of work within Town Hall. The left hand knows
what the right hand is doing. They not only share with one another, but I
also share with them, about different actions taken by the Board so they
hear it first hand, and it's not through rumor or gossip. They hear
directly from the Supervisor the actions of the Board, and the
rationalization for what we're doing. I think it makes for a better staff,
and Board relationship. Also, the group on vandalism, and graffiti, we had
a sub-group, which has been working, and we pretty much have gotten a
campaign laid out. We're looking at this as not just a development of a
program and it's here today, and gone tomorrow. Some of our goals, and
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some of the things we're going to do will take four to five years to put in
place, but we feel if we can continue to grow on the campaign, which we
plan to put in place, that hopefully it will begin to solve some of the
problem. We don't see the entire problem of graffiti and vandalism
disappearing, but we feel it's an ongoing problem, so it has to have an
ongoing solution. So, we will be meeting on January 6th, if anyone would
like to join us and hear what we're doing. It is positive, and I think it's
going work. I also had a group of Cub Scouts come in for a tour of Town
Hall. We have this quite often. I would like to thank Councilwoman
Hussie for standing in my place until I was able to get here. I was
running late, and so she helped give the tour and explain government to
these young people. Also, I have had a meeting with Chris Smith from
Cornell in relation to Cedar Beach. He and I discussed what Cornell would
like to do with the facility down at Cedar Beach, and we will be meeting now
with Mike Frank, who is the Commissioner for Suffolk County, because that
property ~s owned by Suffolk County. It's part of the Parks Department.
So, we'll be meeting on Friday, the 20th. Cornell would llke to develop
the site more than it is. The Rec Committee has done an evaluation, and
the Rec Committee would llke to see the beach area kept as a beach for
our people. Many people in Southold have used that beach for many years,
and I am sure they would miss it if it was taken away. Hopefully, we can
work in partnership with the County, and Cornell, and the Town, as far as
the site is concerned. That's the direction we're trying to work anyhow.
Friday evening I went down to the tree lighting in Greenport. It was a
lovely event. It was held indoors by the carousel because of the weather. I
had the opportunity to wish people of Greenport, Happy Holidays. Alice,
you'll be very glad to hear this. I should say, Councilwoman Hussie,
while we're doing this, shouldn't I? I should refer to you people by that
rather then first name. I'm a little bit more informal. You just have to put
up with me. We are having the groundbreaking on the tennis courts
finally, finally, finally. It's going to be this Thursday, December 12th
at 10:00 A.M., and what is happened, Ray Jacobs has already been digging
out the earth, because you have to dig down a certain depth, add you put
sand in, and you let the sand sit all winter, and then ir~ the spring you
build your courts, and it gives you a better foundation. He just started
digging, so he said we could up and do our groundbreaking, so, if any of
the Board is available
COUNCILWOMAN HUSSlE: I'm going to bring my racket.
SUPERVISOR COCHRAN: One of the fun things I did was attend the
lighting of the tree down at the Southold Historical Society, and as you
know several years ago Parker Dickerson gave the Old Schoolhouse to the
Historical Society, and it's for the payment each year of one peppercorn, so
they asked if I would present the peppercorn this year, and they are going
to do it as a traditional thing. Every year at the time of the tree
lighting, and be whoever is sitting in this seat would get the opportunity
to present to the Dickerson family a peppercorn, which is kind of like
saying, they have given it to us, and this is a good faith thing. So, that
was exciting. I gave a peppercorn. Aside from that the Town Board has
been very busy, as you have heard from them, and we are all looking
forward to the holiday, and we'll wish those of you here this evening,
Happy Holidays. We do have one more Board meeting before the celebration
of Christmas, so we will see some of you I'm sure. Thank you for joining
us. Have a good evening.
Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Moore, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board meeting be and hereby is adjourned at
8:1t5 P.M.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Moore, Justice Evans,
Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Supervisor Cochran.
This resolution was duly ADOPTED.
//'Judith T. Ter~r.y .
Southold Town Clerk