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1 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK : STATE OF NEW YORK
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TOWN BOARD
4 REGULAR BOARD MEETING
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Southold, New York
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October 10 , 2023
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15 B E F 0 R E :
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17 SCOTT A . RUSSELL, SUPERVISOR
18 LOUISA P . EVANS , JUSTICE
19 JILL DOHERTY, COUNCILWOMAN
20 BRIAN 0 . MEALY, COUNCILMAN
21 GREG DOROSKI , COUNCILMAN
22 SARAH E . NAPPA, COUNCILWOMAN
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OCTOBER 10, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 2
1 PUBLIC HEARINGS
2 COMMUNITY HOUSING PLAN
3 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Okay .
4 This is a continuation of the hearing
5 was started two weeks ago , with regard
6 to the adoption of the Community Housing
7 Plan . This has been worked on by a
8 Community Housing Committee . That was
9 convened about a year -- several months
10 ago --
11 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY :
12 Convened, yes .
13 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I ' m
14 going to ask anybody that would like to
15 comment on that specific plan . Dave?
16 DAVID LEVY : David Levy from
17 Laurel . Good evening, Supervisor,
18 Members of the Board . Let me assure you
19 that my persistence on this issue is
20 based on bona fide concerns and
21 questions that I have of the plan . I
22 understand that the Board is in a hurry
23 to get something passed, but I fear that
24 -- and I know you don ' t mean to do this ,
25 I think the interest of speed is
OCTOBER 10, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 3
1 overtaking the interest of good
2 government . I ' ll tell you why . First,
3 when I spoke to you a couple of weeks
4 ago, I asked a couple of questions about
5 the plan . One was how we were going to
6 administer the Asset Test . And the
7 other was how the Town Board was going
8 to handle this situation or whoever is
9 running this program, is going to handle
10 a situation, in which an applicant who
11 is qualified at the time they became a
12 beneficiary ceases to be qualified and
13 wants to stay . And I was told that
14 those details had not been worked out .
15 And I ' m wondering if we ' ve made any
16 progress on those in the last two weeks ?
17 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Those
18 details are going to be made out when we
19 have somebody implementing the plan . So
20 we can work through them. They weren ' t
21 meant to be worked out prior to adopting
22 the plan .
23 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : I think
24 it ' s also important just as it relates
25 to this point . The problem with income
OCTOBER 10, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 4
1 re-verification is really only relevant
2 in rental apartments . That ' s only a
3 small portion of this housing plan, as
4 the Committee conceived of it . If you
5 look at the first-time home buyer loans ,
6 whether it be for first-time home buyers
7 or for heroes , this problem that you ' re
8 raising is not really relevant .
9 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : And for
10 infrastructures that people are turning
11 into existing structures that people are
12 turning into affordable housing, it ' s
13 not relevant . Because it ' s got to stay
14 affordable throughout the whole time .
15 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : And not
16 to minimize the problem generally . It
17 is a problem with rentals , where
18 individuals will stay there and their
19 incomes will change year-to-year .
20 DAVID LEVY : I would think it would
21 be that they would advance to a point
22 where they don ' t need the help anymore .
23 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI :
24 Absolutely . But the Committee has
25 discussed this , the Town Board has
OCTOBER 10, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 5
1 discussed it . And at least speaking for
2 myself, I feel like we ' re at the point
3 where we ' ve answered enough of these
4 questions that we can move forward to
5 implementation . If we look at the plan,
6 the plan is only an outline . Specific
7 programs still need to be outlined . I
8 think if you look at the urgency of the
9 problem facing the community, along with
10 the work that ' s been put in for the past
11 year to put this plan together, which is
12 a really exceptional document, I think
13 we ' re well suited to address this
14 problem and address your concerns .
15 DAVID LEVY : So that I ' m not
16 misunderstood, I agree with you that the
17 plan is a very well put together
18 document, but it ' s not a plan . It ' s a
19 series of recommendations to the Town
20 Board . It ' s a plan to make a plan . And
21 that ' s not what the law calls for you to
22 do . And it ' s not a good idea for you to
23 move forward, because you don ' t have any
24 rules . A plan has rules . Especially
25 when you ' re awarding public money .
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1 There have to be criteria, and you need
2 to know what those are going in . That ' s
3 what a plan is . So , for example, if
4 someone else and I , both qualify under
5 the state law to be a beneficiary of the
6 program, but our applications are
7 mutually exclusive, because -- and I
8 think we all agree that the amount of
9 money that ' s going to be available to
10 assist people is going to be overwhelmed
11 by the number of applications for
12 assistance . What entity is going to
13 pick the winners and losers ? And what
14 are the criteria that they ' re going to
15 use to judge?
16 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Well , if
17 you look at the plan, I think there ' s a
18 very, very important point that ' s made
19 in there . That ultimately the authority
20 here resides with the Town Board . The
21 Town Board is the ultimate decider in
22 all of these matters .
23 DAVID LEVY : And how will the Town
24 Board decide mutually exclusive
25 applications from people who are equally
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1 qualified?
2 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : I think
3 that --
4 DAVID LEVY : Let me tell you why I
5 asked the question .
6 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Yeah .
7 DAVID LEVY : When governments run
8 into trouble, especially local
9 governments , especially town
10 governments , it almost always involves
11 one of three issues . And one is money
12 and land use . And if you don ' t have --
13 what is going to guide you in
14 determining mutually exclusive
15 applications ? The losers are going to
16 say favoritism. And how are you going
17 to deny that? What are the guideposts
18 to lead you to a decision that "X ' s "
19 application is better than "Y" or "X" is
20 more deserving than "Y? " By the way, if
21 anybody has an answer --
22 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I ' m
23 going to agree -- I have an answer . I
24 agree with you 1000 . We ' ve had no
25 specific discussion on creating next
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1 steps . We had no specific discussion on
2 evaluating the current code or what
3 changes would be made to the new code .
4 What we ' re saying here is , well , we ' re
5 going to hire someone . And then we ' re
6 going to let them help us develop a
7 plan . I agree with you . We don ' t have
8 a specific plan . We have a guiding
9 document . But to take something like
10 that and convert that to written
11 language is a lot of hard work . We
12 haven ' t done that yet . So I ' m going to
13 agree on something else . We have money
14 and we have developers . And they are
15 very, very smart . Our code needs to be
16 smarter than them. And we haven ' t even
17 gotten there yet . We have a lot of
18 bumpers and guardrails we need to put
19 into place . We need a specific plan
20 that can be put in a black and white and
21 adopted as a specific code or as a
22 series of codes . We haven ' t done that
23 yet . We have a plan on here to submit a
24 duty statement for a Community
25 Relations , I think, as well . But it ' s
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1 basically someone to help us with
2 housing . A needed position, but it ' s
3 way, way, way, way too early . We ' re
4 going to ask someone . We ' re going to
5 hire someone to administer a program
6 that hasn ' t even been created yet .
7 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : We can
8 say over and over and over again, we
9 need more details . That we need to
10 think about this a little bit more .
11 However, the crisis is just getting
12 worse here . We ' re not going to think
13 about it . I had an employee today at
14 the brewery give his notice because he ' s
15 moving away because he cannot afford to
16 live here . I think we have the luxury
17 here to sit here and say we need to do
18 some more thinking . We need to do some
19 more planning . There has been a good
20 plan that ' s put together . There is
21 money there . I feel confident that we
22 can do this . And I think, yes ,
23 multi-family housing, these sort of
24 issues that we need to address with land
25 use and zoning, absolutely need to be
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1 solved . But that ' s only a small portion
2 of the way that this plan helps to
3 address these problems . We could start
4 a first time home buyer tax or loan
5 program as outlined in the plan in a
6 month .
7 DAVID LEVY : But how are you going
8 to choose who the beneficiaries are?
9 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : The Town
10 Board can decide that . The Town Board
11 will decide that .
12 DAVID LEVY : But how will we test
13 whether or not they ' ve made the right
14 decision? There are no guidelines .
15 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : So we
16 --
17 DAVID LEVY : And if you read what
18 you ' re calling the plan, it doesn ' t even
19 call itself a plan . It talks about
20 recommendations to the Town Board .
21 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Because
22 that ' s the way the statute was . It ' s
23 recommendations to the Town Board until
24 we adopt it . Then it becomes the plan .
25 And we can start using -- We can ' t start
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1 using this money until we have a plan .
2 And the plan can -- While we ' re working
3 out details of, say, rentals or
4 multi-unit area, we could start using it
5 for ADU ' s . For people who want to put
6 an apartment onto their house . For a
7 down payment assistant . We could start
8 helping single families . We can start
9 helping people that already have
10 structures that exist to help make that
11 into an apartment . So they can, you
12 know, put it -- give it to somebody
13 that ' s on the Affordable Housing
14 Registry . There is criteria on the
15 Registry based on HUD . We use those
16 criteria . If somebody -- if they ' re
17 buying a house and they have , you know,
18 they meet that criteria, they might not
19 be mortgageable . And therefore they
20 won ' t be able to get that . So there ' s a
21 lot of different variables and there ' s a
22 lot of different things . That ' s why a
23 lot of people tend to go through the
24 lottery system when you do have a
25 multi-unit project . But it all depends
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1 on what the project is . There ' s so many
2 facets of this , and it ' s going to be a
3 workout .
4 DAVID LEVY : I appreciate your
5 comments . It is complicated . It is a
6 lot of work . But this isn ' t the plan .
7 And it can ' t be a plan without rules .
8 There have to be criteria that people
9 judge just like when you issue an RFP .
10 You usually tell the folks in the RFP,
11 it ' ll be "X" number of points for this .
12 "X" number of points for that . And
13 certainly some of this is judgment
14 calls . But you ' ve got to let the people
15 understand what they ' re up against when
16 they make an application . And the Board
17 needs to have clear criteria of how to
18 pick winners and losers .
19 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Those
20 will be issued when the RFP ' s are put
21 out for these individual programs .
22 Speaking for myself, this is one reason
23 that I feel so strongly that we should
24 move forward with directing the
25 Supervisor to submit the duty statement
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1 for a Community Housing Coordinator .
2 There is work that needs to be done now
3 on this . I think the Board has done
4 what we can to move this forward . We
5 need to bring in an expert to help craft
6 these programs and we can continue
7 having these discussions . I think your
8 points are well taken, and we need to do
9 some more work, but this is not an
10 excuse to stop our progress now . I ' ve
11 heard some Board members say that we
12 should wait till January, till the new
13 administration is here . That is a
14 luxury that we do not have right now .
15 DAVID LEVY : You ' re collecting so
16 little money compared to what the cost
17 of this program is going to be per
18 beneficiary, that you are probably
19 delaying helping maybe one or two
20 families based on the amount of money I
21 understand you ' re collecting so far . So
22 it ' s not like there are hundreds of
23 people who could have been helped, but
24 won ' t be if you delay and do this the
25 right way .
OCTOBER 10, 2023 REGULAR MEETING 14
1 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : But it ' s
2 not just this . 5o money . We also have
3 almost a million dollars in inclusionary
4 zoning buyout money, that I would like
5 to see put toward these sorts of
6 programs . If we ' re looking at a million
7 dollars , and we could give a hundred
8 thousand dollar, you know, first time
9 home buyer loans to people, that would
10 go a long way to providing what , can
11 families home?
12 DAVID LEVY : The money that you ' re
13 collecting outside of the Peconic area
14 tax is not subject to the record --
15 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : No, no ,
16 that ' s not -- it ' s not .
17 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: -- but
18 this sort of program delaying the plan
19 would not delay the use of those funds .
20 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Yeah, I
21 would argue personally that I don ' t
22 think we should keep talking or kicking
23 it down the road . We need to take a pen
24 of paper . We need to draft something
25 now . We don ' t have a -- we don ' t, and
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1 you know, my colleagues just said, well ,
2 we can start doing this . We can start
3 doing that . In some cases , no, we
4 can ' t . Because we don ' t have the code
5 yet . You can ' t promote ADU ' s unless you
6 change the code . We haven ' t even looked
7 at it . And by the way, if we can be so
8 quick to get things done, then let ' s
9 vote on Cutchogue tonight . Cutchogue
10 Villas . I vote, no . Everybody else here
11 willing accept 32 units on three acres?
12 I vote, no .
13 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : We
14 don ' t have an application .
15 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: There ' s
16 no application .
17 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Well , I
18 don ' t know . I ' m even moving forward on
19 it . I ' m not saying why we have nothing
20 to judge it on . We have nothing to base
21 on it since we don ' t have a plan yet .
22 DAVID LEVY : Look, I ' ve made the
23 point that I --
24 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Thank
25 you . And I do appreciate the issues
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1 that you ' ve raised from the beginning
2 when you spoke against us even taking up
3 this effort . I appreciate that . I
4 think you ' ve raised some good concerns
5 that are a good warning to the Board and
6 considerations we need to address .
7 DAVID LEVY : I think that you are
8 asking for both public relations and
9 legal trouble going forward .
10 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Well ,
11 thank you .
12 DAVID LEVY : Now, with respect to
13 the resolution, if you ' re helmet on
14 doing this , the resolution, as it
15 appears in the packet of materials ,
16 never actually says that you ' re adopting
17 this as the plan . And never actually
18 identifies the plan . It refers loosely
19 in Section 2 , Article 2 , in order to
20 Community Housing Fund adoption of the
21 Town Community Housing Plan, the
22 Community Housing Plan may be viewed in
23 its entirety on the Town ' s website . And
24 it gives the Town ' s general website, but
25 not a link to the plan, or by contacting
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1 the Southold Town County Clerk ' s Office .
2 And there ' s a phone number . I ' ve never
3 seen legislation drafted in that
4 fashion . I would suggest that you have
5 a provision that specifically says that
6 the plan be, and hereby is adopted as it
7 appears under whatever the title is of
8 the plan in the Town ' s Clerk ' s Office of
9 whatever date . I don ' t think you ever
10 say what you mean to do here . The other
11 thing I would suggest is the resolution
12 that was used out because I described
13 the purpose . Purpose of the local law .
14 And I think you leave out the main
15 reason that you ' re doing this . And that
16 is to be in compliance with whatever the
17 section number is of the Community
18 Housing Act, that requires you to do
19 that . So that somebody reading the
20 resolution saying that did they ever
21 adopt this ? So that there ' s no doubt
22 that this is this Board trying to be
23 compliant with the act .
24 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Well ,
25 by law, we actually don ' t even have to
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1 read any of it . We can just say resolve
2 to approve 852 . So by law, we don ' t
3 have to have the full text here .
4 DAVID LEVY : I understand, but
5 you ' re adopting a local law . The local
6 law adopts -- it recites purposes . And
7 I think in the local law, the purposes
8 you want to indicate -- I ' m not talking
9 about the format of this meeting or the
10 paperwork that you circulate in advance
11 of the meeting . You ' re adopting a
12 statute in effect . The statute recites
13 purposes . It leaves out the main reason
14 that you ' re doing this . And I ' m also
15 suggesting that you make specific
16 reference to the plan that you ' re
17 passing . I ' ve never seen a local law
18 written that we ' re adopting --
19 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: It does
20 say, in Section Two , it says adoption of
21 Town Community Housing Plan .
22 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Yeah .
23 DAVID LEVY : That ' s a sentence
24 fragment . It doesn ' t say that you ' re
25 adopting a particular housing plan .
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1 Entitled --
2 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Well ,
3 we have the Local Law in relation to
4 Chapter 17 , Community Preservation Fund,
5 and Community Housing Fund . That ' s what
6 we ' re adopting .
7 DAVID LEVY : That ' s a caption .
8 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Right .
9 And that ' s part of the whole thing . And
10 if you look at 881 , a Local Law in
11 relation to amendment to Chapter 245
12 Taxation . That ' s the way we have
13 written it . That ' s the way our Town
14 Attorney has reviewed it .
15 DAVID LEVY : -- take it up with the
16 Town Attorney?
17 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Yeah, I
18 was going to just turn it in .
19 DAVID LEVY : -- our representative
20 of the office . He hears what I ' m
21 saying . I think they all agree with me .
22 I ' ve never seen a Local Law that says if
23 you want to know what it is that we ' re
24 adopting, you can call the clerk .
25 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Well ,
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1 you know what , I think that maybe we, as
2 a Board, should have a discussion on how
3 we word our agenda, to talk with the
4 Town Attorney . To make sure that we ' re
5 being clear to the public .
6 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I think
7 you can make -- these are minor
8 modifications . Make them from the dais .
9 Go ahead and vote on it . We have to go
10 back and revisit it , we will . But I
11 think minor modifications can be made
12 right from the dais , without
13 jeopardizing any of the illegal
14 integrity of the law .
15 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Or we can
16 enact it and amend it next time .
17 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : This is
18 no different than any other way we use
19 our materials .
20 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : It might
21 not be artful , but it ' s certainly
22 completely legal .
23 DAVID LEVY : Okay .
24 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Thank
25 you .
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1 DAVID LEVY : May I just say one
2 other thing about something else?
3 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Sure .
4 DAVID LEVY : I just wanted to thank
5 Councilman Mealy and this Board for
6 acknowledging what ' s going on overseas .
7 It is hugely important that the course
8 of people who are expressing outrage
9 contain non-Jewish voices . And I know
10 that that applies to many, if not all of
11 you . As a Jewish resident of the Town,
12 I appreciate it . And I just wanted to
13 say thank you to all of you .
14 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Thank
15 you .
16 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Thank
17 you .
18 COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : Thank you,
19 Mr . Levy .
20 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Would
21 anybody else like to be heard on this
22 particular Public Hearing?
23 (No Response ) .
24 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : I ' ll
25 make a motion to close the hearing .
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1 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : I ' ll
2 second that .
3 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : All in
4 favor?
5 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Aye .
6 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Aye .
7 COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : Aye .
8 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: Aye .
9 JUSTICE LOUISA EVANS : Aye .
10 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Aye .
12 CHAPTER 245 TAXATION
13 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Okay .
14 The purpose of tonight ' s second public
15 hearing is to consider certain changes
16 to Chapter 245 Taxation . Specifically
17 245- 1 , Senior Citizen Exemption, and
18 Section 245-11 , Exemption for Volunteer
19 Firefighters and Ambulance Workers . The
20 proposed amendment to be considered by
21 the Board alters the language of Chapter
22 245- 1 , Senior Citizen Exemption, to
23 comport with the recently enacted 466 of
24 the New York State Real Property Tax
25 Law . And further seeks to modify the
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1 definition of income for tax exemption
2 purposes to include distributions from
3 individual retirement accounts , and
4 individual retirement annuities . The
5 proposed amendment to be considered by
6 the Board also alters the language of
7 Chapter 245-11 , Exemption for Volunteer
8 Firefighters and Ambulance Workers , by
9 reducing the residency requirement for a
10 volunteer firefighter or ambulance
11 worker, whose primary residence is
12 within the Town from five years to two
13 years , to be eligible for such
14 exemption . The full text of this
15 proposed Local Law can be found on the
16 Town ' s website and posted on the Clerk ' s
17 bulletin board . In the folder here, I
18 have a copy of the Affidavit of
19 Publication, along with the Legal Notice
20 that was published in the Suffolk Times .
21 I have a copy of the Legal Notice
22 itself . I have a copy of an Affidavit
23 signed by our Town Clerk, Denis
24 Noncarrow, that it was posted on the
25 bulletin board in the back . And I have
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1 a copy of the resolution . That ' s what I
2 got .
3 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Anybody
4 like to address the Town Board on this
5 particular?
6 MS . MISSY : No one ' s hand is raised
7 on Zoom .
8 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : I ' ll
9 make a motion to close the hearing .
10 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: Second .
11 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : All in
12 favor?
13 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Aye .
14 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Aye .
15 COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : Aye .
16 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: Aye .
17 JUSTICE LOUISA EVANS : Aye .
18 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Aye .
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20 PUBLIC COMMENTS .
21 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I ' m
22 going to invite anybody that would like
23 to address the Town Board on any issue,
24 to please feel free .
25 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Nobody
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1 on the Zoom. Make a motion to adjourn .
2 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : I ' ll
3 second that . Wait, wait .
4 MARIELLA OSTROSKI : I ' m Mariella
5 Ostroski , Southold . And I ' m on the
6 Historic Preservation Commission . And
7 I ' m here to ask you, if you ' ve come to
8 any kind of consensus with regard to the
9 Historic Districts in Orient that you ' re
10 able to share with us ?
11 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : No, I
12 haven ' t . And that is just so the public
13 understands the request from going from
14 a tabular listing under the historic
15 properties to a geographic listing that
16 was originally submitted to the State .
17 You ' re talking about the 53 homes that
18 had not been originally included on the
19 map?
20 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : It ' s
21 the one home that there --
22 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : A number
23 of people came to --
24 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Oh, yes .
25 I can ' t -- unfortunately, I can ' t
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1 discuss that . That ' s currently in
2 enforcement action .
3 MARIELLA OSTROSKI : Thank you . I
4 was told at a meeting with you all that
5 I ' d been invited to the Code Committee
6 with reference to things that we wanted
7 to change that would support better
8 service to the community . And I wanted
9 to know what is that process so that I
10 would know what to expect? Because I
11 haven ' t heard anything yet . Is this
12 something I ' m supposed to pursue or does
13 somebody call me because they know that
14 that ' s going to be part of a process ?
15 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : And
16 we ' re discussing several different Code
17 Committees on several different codes .
18 Can you be a little more specific?
19 MARIELLA OSTROSKI : Of course .
20 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Why
21 don ' t you do this . I tell you what, why
22 don ' t you submit the agenda to me . I ' ll
23 circulate it to the Board, and we ' ll
24 schedule you for a work session at the
25 next available, depending on the agenda .
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1 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : I don ' t
2 even know what you ' re talking about .
3 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : That ' s
4 why I ' m asking for an agenda .
5 MARIELLA OSTROSKI : Thank you . On
6 the 12th, I came to you with the Town
7 Attorney .
8 JUSTICE LOUISA EVANS : We can ' t
9 hear what she ' s saying on Zoom, or at
10 least I can ' t .
11 MARIELLA OSTROSKI : I ' m sorry . Is
12 this better?
13 JUSTICE LOUISA EVANS : Yes , much
14 better .
15 MARIELLA OSTROSKI : Okay . I ' m so
16 sorry . Yes . On the 12th of October, I
17 was at the Board meeting work session, I
18 believe that ' s what it was called . And
19 there was some discussion with regard to
20 changes in the Chapter 170 , that would
21 support greater service and direction
22 for the Historic Preservation . What was
23 interesting is that one of the things we
24 asked for is to include the Secretary of
25 the Interior ' s Standards for Historic
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1 Restoration . So that when something
2 came up for us , we would have a guiding
3 principle that was the national
4 standard . And it ' s just funny because I
5 know this gentleman was speaking about a
6 standard or a guideline or something . I
7 thought , how great for us that we can
8 say, oh yeah, this is something we ' re
9 missing and we could really use it .
10 Because if something comes up, it ' s not
11 about our subjective opinions , it ' s
12 about what ' s happening nationally . And
13 that there ' ll be commonality throughout
14 the country for requests for changes or
15 different kinds of service that happens
16 in an Historic District . So that was
17 just one of the items . But there were
18 about three or four items . And I was
19 told that I would be expected to come
20 before the Code Committee .
21 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : What I
22 would ask is that you submit the agenda
23 to me, I ' ll distribute it to the Board .
24 And then in two weeks , while you ' re at
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1 -- at that meeting as to when we ' re
2 gonna have the Code Committee, which
3 would basically be a joint meeting
4 between your Board and our Board . Just
5 give me the agenda so I can distribute
6 it to this Board .
7 MARIELLA OSTROSKI : And does that
8 agenda include just the few items that
9 we mentioned at that one time? Or do I
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11 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Put on
12 the agenda what you think should be
13 discussed at that Code Committee
14 meeting .
15 MARIELLA OSTROSKI : Thank you .
16 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Okay?
17 MARIELLA OSTROSKI : Yes , thank you .
18 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Who else
19 would like to address the Board on any
20 issues ? And nobody in Zoomland?
21 MS . MISSY : No one has their hands
22 raised .
23 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : I will
24 make a motion to adjourn .
25 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: Second .
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1 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : All in
2 favor?
3 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Aye .
4 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Aye .
5 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: Aye .
6 COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : Aye .
7 JUSTICE LOUISA EVANS : Aye .
8 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Aye .
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3 I , Jessica DiLallo, a Notary Public
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6 THAT , the within transcript is a
7 true record of said Board Meeting .
8 I further certify that I am not
9 related either by blood or marriage to
10 any of the parties to this action; and
11 that I am in no way interested in the
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13 IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto
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