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HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-10/17/1995415 SO.UTHOLD TOWN BOARD OCTOBER 17, 1995 ,WORK SESSION Present: Supervisor Wickham, Councilman Lizewski, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Townsend, Justice Evans. Also present: Town Clerk Terry, Town Attorney Dowd. Absent: Councilwoman Oliva (attending a conference). 9:15 A.M. - The Board briefly discussed the Town Grants Program. Hussie suggested placing a $2,500 ceilir organization, however, other Board mem said he felt the grant would depend up~ will be discussed further during the budge 9:30 A.M. - The Board met with the folio, hearing in accordance with the CSEA c Edward Scroxton, Highway Department e~ Jim Henck, Labor Relations Specialist, Councilwoman g on the amount of a grant to any one ]ers did not agree. Supervisor Wickham n the benefit to the Town. This subject process. ring individuals to hold a Step 3 grievance ontract with regard to the grievance of lployee on Fishers Island: Mr. Scroxton, Suffolk Coutny, Lois Atkinson, CSEA President, Southold Town, Linda Cooper and Andrew Ruroede, members of the Labor Management Committee, Southold Town. Mr. Scroxton alleges he is working out of title as a Heavy Equipment Operator, and there is understaffing and unsafe practices in the Highway Deoartment on Fishers Island.----The Town Board reserved decision. 10:30 A.M. lunch. The Board held a 1996 Budget Work Session until they recessed for 2:15 P.M. - Town Board reconvened their work session and placed a resolution (16) on the agenda appointing individuals to the Architectural Review Committee.---- Appointed Eileen Kiski as a Records Management Clerk for the Town Clerk's office (resolution 17).----Appointed Home Health Aides for the Human Resource Center (resolution 18) .----Set 1:30 P.M., Tuesday, October 31st, Disposal Area, for interviews of Gate Attendants.----Rory Abuse Committee, notified the Board that committee. He submitted the name of C County Community College in the AlcohOl Mr. Charnews during the October 30th ~ (19) on the agenda to enact Local Law N, Simpson, Chairperson of the Substance he would like to add a new member to the ement Charnews Jr., a student at Suffolk Counseling Program. Board will interview ~ork session.----Board placed a resolution ~. 21 - 1995, "A Local Law in Relation to Flea Markets".----Board reviewed a memorandum to the Town Trustees from "The Commoners" stating that they would like to convey their 34 acres to the Trustees with the provisions that (1) the acres remain in perpetuity as a wildlife preserve, and (2) that the Trustees erect a commemorative marker or plaque in front of Town Hall with their names and a short history. The Board asked Town Attorney Dowd to check out the wildlife preserve proviso. 3:50 P.M. Regular Meeting. Town Board reviewed the re~olutions to be voted on at the 7:30 P.M. 4:00 P.M. - Supervisor Wickham briefe~ County law implementing the emergency t~ which wilt implement a funding mechanis associated with establishing and maintain considerably increase the potential for pr~ the Board on recently enacted Suffolk lephone system (E911) telephone program, m to assist in the payment of the costs ng an Enhanced 911 system and thereby ~viding all citizens of Suffolk County with tile valuable services inherent in an Enhanced 911 system. Upon passage of the legislation the telephone company will begin to impose a thirty-five cent surcharge per access line per month on each telephone sUbscriber in Suffolk County to pay for the costs associated with implementing, installing and maintaining the systems. It presently costs Southold Town about $[15,000 per year for the Nynex charges for this service. We will now forwacd our bills to tl~e. County, which will pay them rrom the E911 fund, rather than the Town paying them from general tax revenues Supervisor Wickham briefed the Board on the Brown Tide Summit to be hel~l on October 20 & 21 at the Holiday Inn in Ronkonkoma. The goals o[ the summit are to review the current state of knowledge regarding brown tide and to develop a research plan that, when implemented, ,. will provide sufficient information about brown tide to predict antor control its f~Jture occurrence and minimize its impacts. There will be nationally-recognized experts from New York and elsewhere to review what is known about brown tide and discuss what the next steps should be to address this issue.----Lastly, Supervisor Wickham advised the B;oard that tile police contract negotiations are now in,binding aPbitration. EXECUTIVE SESSION On motion of Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was Resolved that the Town Board enter into Executive Session to discuss litigaHon. Vote of the Board: Ayes: Supervisor WiCkham, Councilman Lizewski, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Townsend, Justice Evans, Also present: Town Clerk Terry, Town Attorney Dowd. Absent: Councilwoman Oliva. 4:50 P.M. - Work Session adjourned. REGULAR MEETING A Re~lular Meetin9 of, the Southold Town Board was held on October t7, 1995, at the Southold Town Hall, Southold, New York. Supervisor Wickham opened the meeting at 7:30 P.M. with the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. Present: Absent: Supervisor Thomas H. Wickham C~ncilman Jos.eph J. Lizewski Cbi~ncilwoman Alice J. Hussie Councilman Joseph L. Townsend, Jr. Justice Louisa P. Evans Town Clerk Judith T. Terry Town Attorney Laury L. Dowd Councilwoman Ruth D. Oliva SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I think you all should have copies of the agenda, that was outside the door there. On the back page of it is an Order to Business, that we used in conducting the business of the morning, and in the afternoon during our Work Session. A good part of our Work Session was actually spent reviewing the 1996 Budget, which the Town will be movin9 to adopt in the coming weeks. We have public hearing scheduled for tonight at eight o'clock, and we have various other things on our agenda today. I'm open for a motion to. approve the bills. Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was RESOLVED that the following bills be and hereby ordered paid: General Fund Whole Town bills in the amount of $100,519.52; General Fund Part Town bills in the amount of $1,503.24; Community Development Fund bills in the amount of $~,77.~2; Highway Fund Whole Town bills in the amount of $7,922.18; Highway Fund part Town bills in the amount of $5,662.~,1; CHIPS (Highway Part Town) bills in the amount of $121,866.25; Lighting/Heating Capital A/C bills in the amount of $264.00; Fishers Island Metal Dump Capital bills in the amount of $58,309.75; Employee Health Benefit Plan bills in the amount of $71,161.67; Fishers Island Ferry District bills in the amount of $13,~78.48; Refuse & Garbage District bills in the .70; Southold Wastewater District bills in the amount of $170. Islar CoL This Island Sewer District bills in the amount of , E Trust' bills in the amount of $2,202.15; Fishers ~t bills in the amount df $!,091.59. Justice Evans, c°uncilman Townsend~, Lizewski, Suoervisor' Wickham. ;D. ~tice Ev be Co, This ~esolution was Councilman Townsend, it was the 'OctOber 3, 1995; Town Board meetincj s: Justice Evans, Councilman I~iZewski, Supervisor Wickham. ~PTED. Townsend, RES be Hall, zd by Justice Evans, it was of the S0uthold Town Board will at the Southold' Town SUP] beca of thlat t AM: This ils a Monday meeting rather than a Tuesday, Ha 0we~n, and we thought it better not be on a holiday of,: Thi :ion was 'es: Justice Evans, Councilman Townsend, Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. I. REPORTS. 1. Southold Towni.Trustees' Monthly Report for September, 1995. 2. Southold Town"Cl~rk's Monthly Report for September, 1995. 3. Southold To~h! ', Justice Evans' Monthly Court Report for September, 1995. ~. Southold Town Justice Tedeschi's Monthly Court Report for September, 1995. 5. Southold Town Just[ce Price's Monthly Court Report for September, 1995. 6. Southold Town: Investigator's Monthly Report for September, 1995. 7. Southold Town Recreation Department Monthly Report for September, '1995. Southold Town~ .Planmng Board Monthly Report for September, 1995. 9. Southold Tbwn Healthcare Town Benefits Monthly Report for September, 1995. 10. Southold Towt~ Healthcare PBA Benefits Monthly Report for September, 1995. 11. Southold Town Scavenger Waste Treatment Facility Monthly Report for September, 1995. II, PUBLIC NOTICES. None. t11. COMMUNICATIONS, None. IV PUBLIC HEARINGS. 1. 8:00 P.M., on a proposed "Local Law in Relation to Landfill Permit Fees by Resolutions". V. RESOLUTIONS. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Rather than going into any discussion about our Work Session, and a lot of the measures, that we discussed in the Work Session are on the resolutions, that~ ~ve're about to consider. I'll just invite comments from the audience for anybody who would like to comment on any of the resolutions before us today. COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Do you want to go into any of the SupervisoF's briefings relative to the brown tide, and the E991 thing? SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Joe did mention a couple of things that we did discuss today, maybe it would be useful before :we get into ~this, two items, that I think may interest People.' One of them has' to :do With the E911 te ephone service. You may know that Southo d Town, :thanks to decisions of a prevmus Board some years ago, as the firstt~t0wn on .Eastern Long sland to adopt tl~e Enhanced 911 !t~leph0:ne servic~el Most pebple here feel ~ts a rea benefit to our residents, and t s worked we . it s been rather costly. It costs the Town.. roughly charges to N~NEX to ~allo~v the ToWn the AssociatiOn~0f SuperVis6r~ of the with .NYNEX a new. way to finance tha!t~ a Wa' Law that enable NYNEX to. put instead of the Town paying that telephone bills. The Law allows NYNEX up to 3 service. So, we got ourse Five let's form a did seeing that the themselves in gear, and county-wide for a long time, let's get out, and do They recently all of. Suffolk CoU~ in this area, and as a r able to collect ~from NYNEX that ;ome cents. thirty, thirty- line per month. year, it will come.from harg~ me, that this is a fairer system, the connection trice. Through to find in state rs' bill. Jded to E911 Towns nd said, Suffolk Ily got to do they did. service for is a leader nt~ w. ill be I'm not sure ~;f ~t Will cents per 000 a ;eems to ser'~: ~harge that everybody pays, not just those people who pay taxes. Or~ a Second item, that will be of interest that I did comment o~ this mo~ning, and that has to do with the Brown Tide Summit Meeting to b~ held ]~n the Airport Holiday Inn in Ronkonkoma next to the :lMac~rthur and Saturday. This is'..a meeting ;that I.'thihk. it~'ve~' would focus on the research "need{; to identifyi .what' that have caused Brown Tide, what causes the perpetua : once i s out there, what can we do to get rid o[~ it, and What's the ~mpac~tI or~ the shellf sh. As you may know research is one of those things that everybody delves into when there's a problem, and as soon as the kind of forgets any interest in this area. we felt of progress in identifying the causes~ severe impact on, our shellfishing still a problem t~e Pecon~c Estuary Committee of that, and I proposed that the causes, and effect, deal number of the other supported that. We met in thi,s Town Hall~about two step, and the first concrete step is a 'conference the County Executive, starting this Frlc~ay and Sa the town, who has an interest in research on Brown a must. We have the forms here for thos~ people. and I'd be very happy to distribute it ~ut to pe, would like to participate in that. Having said th; I the audience, who would llke to address the BOard about to take up on the resolutions iln fPont :of twenty resolutions. This is the time to alert the Boa any one or more of these twenty reselutions. If you concern, that don't pertain to these about them after we take them up. ( res someone like to begin the first one? a ]ack a very le there is on the Management :ire. to study m Tide. A here, have ~ke the next ~ Gaff ney, ~ody in this to attend, ence who )le in -e's some views about ionizer matters of hiaPpy ,to hear n~r~e would OCTO E :7, 4 1 9 1 ,-Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilwoman Hussle, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board - of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to readvertise for a Home Health Aide for the EISEP (Expanded In-Home Services for the Elderly) Program, up to 17~1/2 hours per week, at a salary of $6.00 per hour. 1.-Vote of the Town Beard: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, ,CounCilman Lizewskl, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 2.-Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of SouthOId hereby amends resolution no. 2, adopted on October 3, 1995, appointing Lucia Farrell as a temporary part-tim Clerk Typist for the JustiCe Court, to reflect a salary of $7.09 per hour. 2.- Vote of the To~zn Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, CounCilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 3.-Moved by Supervisor Wickham, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold granting permission to Senior Planner Valerie Scopaz to attend Peconic Estuary Program Technical Advisory Committee meetings as a representative of the Town of Southold, and to use a Town vehicle to travel to the meetings as long as she attends as a representative of the Town. 3.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewskl, Supervisor Wickham, This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 4.- Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Supervisor Wickham, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to Planning Board members Richard G. Ward, G. Ritchle Latham, and William Cremers, Planner Melissa Spiro, and Site Plan Reviewer Robert Kassner to attend a workshop for Planning Board members, sponsored by the Suffolk County Planning Federation, Monday, October 30, 1995, 7:30 P.M., at Riverhead Town Hall, and the $50.00 registration fee for the Town, and the use of a Town vehicle for travel, shall be a legal charge to the Planning Board's 1995 Budget. 4.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Jus'tice Evans, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussle, COuncilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wlckham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 5.-Moved by Councilman Lizey~ski, seconded by Councilwoman Hussle, it was RESOLVED that the ToWn Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the roi 0wing budget modification to the General Fund Whole Town 1995 Budget to cover the costs of the Winter Recreation Department brochure: To: A7020.4.[~00.300 Printing $ 1,325.00 From: A7020.~.500,~20 Youth Program Instructors $ 1,325.00 5.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. Moved by Supervisor Wickham, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes an advance fee check in the amount of $63~.50 (47 tickets La $13.50 ea.) for the March 13, 1996 Ringling Brothers and Barnum Bailey Circus show at the Nassau Coliseum; said charge to be made to A7020.~,.500./~20, Youth Program Instructors; check made payable to Nassau Coliseum. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I'd just like to comment that this is one of the functions that our Recreation Program puts on, and it's entirely financed by people who participate in that trip, who will pay the fund back to the Town. 6.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilman Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. Townsend, 4 20 OCTOBER 17, 1995 7.-Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Justice Evans, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor Thomas Wickham to execute agreements with Glen Stegner (Teen NightS) at $15.00 per hour, and Eugenla Cherouski (Folk Dancing) at $16.00 per hour, for the Fall 1995-Recreation Program, all in accordance with the approval of the Town Attorney. 7.-Vote of the Tow.n Board: Ayes: J~jstice Evans,' C~)undilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussme, councilman LizeWski, Suiservisod Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 8.- Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes Lawrence Healthcare Administrative Se~VideS, Inc. to pay a claim on I~eh'alf' of employee Zigmund Helinskl, which claim was submitted to Lawrence b~/ .the provider more than 90 days after the da.to of service. 8.-Vote of the T0wn.Board~ ~A~es~ Justice Evans, C0.un'eilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hu'~sie, counSilma~ Lizewski, Supervis0f W~ckham'. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 9.- Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Councilwoman Hussie, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby engages the services of George Rehn of Rehn F, Fore, CPA's, as a consultant to the Board of Assessors on an Article 7 proceeding brought by San Simeon by the Sound, Inc. of Gree,nport, at a fee not to exceed $2,500.00 9.-Vote of the Town Board.:.'Ay~s: JuStice Evans, Co.uncilman Townsend, Councilwoman HUssie, Cbun¢!lma~i .Lizewskl, Supervisor' ~ickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 10.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Supervisor Wickham, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to the Mattituck Lions Club to use the following Town Roads for its annual Halloween Parade.'On Tuesday, October 31, 1995, commencing at 6:00 P.M., provided theY' file with th'e Town Clerk a One Million Dollar Certificate of LiabJlit,y. Ihsorance naming the Town of Southold as an additional insured: Pike IS[reel, Westphalia Avenue, Sound Avenue, Love Lane, Mattltuck, New YorK. 10.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Counci man Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Counclman Lzewsku Superwsor W.ckham. This resolution was duly AJDOPTED. .--Moved by Justice Evans, seconded by Supervisor Wlckham, it was RESOLVED that tile Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs S.u, pervisor Thomas Wickham to execute agreements with the following individuals for the Fal 1995 Recreation Program at Fishers Island, all in accordance with the approval of the Town Attorney: Frank Gl ar~ (Soccer), $15.00 per hour, George Cairns (Soccer), $15.00 per hour. .-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wlckham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. . 12.-Moved by Supervisor Wickham, seconded by Councilwoman Hussle, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the General Fund Whole Town 199B Budget to appropriate funds for insufficient budget lines in the Town Attorney's budget: From: A.1Lt20.1.100.100 Town Attorney, Personal Services $ 6,083.16 To: A.lq20.1.300.100 Temporary/Seasonal Employment 500.00 A. 1~20.B.500. 100 Legal Counsel ~, 583.16 13.-Vote of ~he Town Boa rd: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 13.-Moved by. Justice Evans, seconded by Supervisor- Wickham, WHEREAS, the MV MUNNATAWKET must be drydocked periodically to allow inspection of her underwater body and outboard fittings; now, therefore, be it RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to the Board of Commissioners of the Fishers Island Ferry D~strlct t.o advertise for bds for drydocklng MV MUNNATAWKET and accomplishing of work thereon in accordance wiU~ the specifieatlons. 13,-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman. Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wlckham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 14.-Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Supervisor Wickham, it was RESOLVED that the T~wn Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 1995 Solid Waste Management District budget as follows: From: SR.8i60.2.200;30~ Fling/Storage Equipment To: SR.8160.2.200.400 Computer Equipment (To cover overdrawn line item. ) From: SR.8160.q.400.805 MSW Removal To: ~ I0.00 10.00 2.000.00 Town is now trucking its own recyclable plastics.) Tire Repair Tires (Payloader/Truck} $ '1,500.00 $ 1,500.00 Fro~: SR.8160.2.500.900 (To cover cost of one new payloader tire -- line over budget.) Miscellaneous Equipment $ 235.00 Ma in tenance / Supplies To: SR.8160.q.~00.600 Scale Maintenance $ 235.00 (To cover overdrawn line iterii.) From: SR.8160.4,q00.805 MSW Removal $ 500.00 To: SR,BIGO.4.100.550 Maintensnce Payloader ~ $ B00.00 (To cover overdraw of $5.90 plus provide for remaining maintenance needs in 1995.) removal expenses. From: S R.8160.q.q00.625 To: SR.8160.q.100.525 To: SR.8160.q.400.820 Plastic Recycling $ 2,000.00 (To cover overdrawn line item. This covers all remaining contracted plastic SP, lB160.q.100,110 Preprinted Forms $ 1,000.00 SR.8~60.4.100.150 Scalehouse Paper/Supplies $ 1,000.00 (To cover unbudgete costs of printing 1996 residen! permits and applica- tion forms; cost of computer paper for scale, which continues to be higher than expected.) From: SR.8160.q.q00.805 MSW Removal ,5 2,000.00 COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: This is the time of year when we tend to get a lot of these budget transfer. I could elaborate a little further. You will see more and more of these things, because of the new budget format that requires more precise accounting, and predicting. So, until we get the procedure down, and we know what these expenses are going to b~, you're liable to see a lot more of these budget llne transfers at the end of the year. l~.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilman TownSend, Councilwoman Hussle, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was d(~ly ADOPTED. COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: I guess I'm in charge of holiday parades. 15.-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Justice Evans, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the closure of the following roads, beginning at 1:30 P.M., Tuesday, October 31, 1995, for the annual Oysterponds School District Halloween Parade, provided they file with the Town Clerk a One Million Dollar Certificate of Insurance naming the Town of Southold as an additional insured: Village Lane, Orchard Street, Tabor Road, to the Orient Fire House and back to the monument at Route 25 and Village Lane. 15.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice EvanS, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor W.ickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 16.-Moved by Supervisor Wickham, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints the following individuals to the Southold Town Architectural Review-- Committee, effective immediately, for the following terms: Robert I. Brown Architect - to October 17, 1996 Garret A. Strang, Architect - October 17, 1997 Josephine Boyd, Landmark Preservation Comm. member - Oct. 17, 1998 Hamlet Members Fishers Island Reynolds duPont, Jr. - to October 17, 1996 Bernadette Walsh- to October 17, 1997 Orient/East Marion/Creenport Yen R|eger - to October 17, 1996 Diana Van Buren - to October 17, 1997 Southold/Peconic Herbert Ernst - to October 17, 1996 Robert Petdt - to October 17, 1997 New Suffolk/Cutchogue Howard Melnke - to October 17, 1996 John C. Cronln, Jr. - to October 17, 1997 Mattituck/Laurel Gayle Sturniolo - to October 17, 1996 Robert Kelth - to October 17, 1'997 SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I'd just like to remind people that the Board adopted, some weeks ago, a Architectural Review Committee to assist the Planning Board in carrying out the architectural review responsibilities the Planning Board has. This committe~ doesn't have independent powers, rather it's a recommending committee to the Planning Board. It is constituted by a core group of members, and added to that are members representing the different hamlets of the town. The core members are two architects, and one person representing the Landmark Preservation Commission. The additional members will represent Fishers Island, if the application comes from Fishers Island, or will represent Orient, East Marion, or Greenport, if an application comes in for that part of the town, or there will be member from the Southold, Peconic area, if an application comes in from that area, New Suffolk, Cutchogue, Mattituck, Laurel. The whole architectural review procedure is only designed to deal with site plan, or business, or commercial property, not residential property. 16.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussle, Councilman Lizewskl, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 17~-Moved by Councilwoman Hussie, seconded by Councilman Lizewski, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Eiteen Kiskl as a Records Management Clerk for the Town Clerk's Office, effective October 18, 1995, 1.7-1/2 hours per week, at a salary of $6.30 per hOur. 17.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 18.-Moved by Councilman Lizewski, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints the following individuals as Home Health Aides, their salaries to be paid through the Programs for the Aging budget: Peter C;riffen and Marvin Knight, effective October 12, 1995, and Arthur E. Nichols, effective October 13, 1995, all at a salary of $6.00 per hour, 17-1/2 hours per week. 18.- Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hus~ie~ CounCilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham.: This resolution was duly ADOPTED. 19.-- Townsend, seconded by Justice Evans, WriER pres'ented to the Town Board Of the Town of South01d,, on 5th day of September, 1995, a Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in Relation to Flea Markets"; and WHEREAS, this Local, Law was referred to the Southold Town Planning Board and the.~SUffol;k CoUnty Department of Planning for recommendations and reports; and Board: held a public hearing on this Local Law on the 3rd da' 1995, at which time all interested persons were given an to:be heard thereon; now, therefore, be it RESOLVED' Board hereby enacts Local Law No. 21 -1995, "A Local Law in Markets", which reads ~as follows: LOCAL LAW NO. 21 - 199B A Local~ Law in Relation to Flea Markets I~E.IT EN.ACTED',.by t. he. Town Board Of the Town of Southo]d as follows: I. Chapter 100 (Zonlng:) of the Code of the Town 'of Southold is hereby amended as follows: 1. Secti~on t00-13B is hereby amended by adding the ~ollowing 'definition: An out-of-doors market operated olnl¥ during new or used items' a~e Sold f~bm individual .ion being operated indepehdently from ~hE Items sold include but~ are not limited to hous ues, rare items, decorations! 'used books This shall not include sales by a nonprofit an occasional basis. 2. I~0) is hereby amended by adding the following: (10): i ?,Flea .kets 3. Sectioh 100-101B (17) is hereby amended by adding the following: .,ts. 19.-Vote of Councilwor This resolution Was . d: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. ADOPTED. Townsend, SUPERVISOR ~[CKHAM,' That completes the resolutions that are before us at this time, There is one more resolution, that we could take up after the public hearing itonight that begins at eight o'clock. So, we've completed the list of resolutions before us. We still have six or eight milnutes before the eight o'clock public he~ri.ng, and because there may be people who will come specifically i at ,i eight ~t~r the hearing, I'd llke to open the floor to comments Or 'q~stions,' t~hat the audlen~:e might have of the Board. This is your opp0rtunli~y foir ~ to five minutes a piece, please, to address the Board with. any matter, o;r concern, that you have. Would you please begin by giving us your name f, or the record? 4 - OCTOBER 17, 1995 WINIFRED PERINI: I'm Winifred Perini. I live in Laurel, and we the undersigned residents, and taxpayers do hereby petition the Southold Town Board to hold a public referendum to decide if town-owned parkland at Laurel Lake should be donated, gifted, conveyed or otherwise provided for to the YMCA for the purpose of establishing a Southold/Riverhead facility. We're not questioning the YMCA. We're just questioning that we would like to be given the opportunity to vote on whether you're giving land away. We just don't feel tha~: you~ shoUld give this land away .Witho. ut a:sking .the whole Town of Southold. SUPERVISOR WlCKHAM: Do you have the petition to give to us? Thank you. WINIFRED PERINI: The people are for the Y, but they just feel you shoutd give them a chance to vote on the land. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: The comment is people are in favor of the YMCA, but they should be given an opportunity to vote on whether or not to contribute the land. Let me just address this briefly, because I have been, I guess, one of those trying to bring a YMCA to the town. As I guess it's well known by now the step that the Town needed to take in order to attract a Y to town at no cost for the construction; and no. cost for the operating budget, was to make a piece of property available for them, two to three acres. The site in Laurel, or west Mattituck, was needed in order to derive a membership base large enough to.finance~ the annual operating costs, and the only land that the Town had in that area was a piece of property near Laurel Lake. We took the step, the Boa~rd did, in a resolution several months ago, now, to make that piece of property aYailable to,the Y for that purpose. At this tlme a consulting firm ,i~.; having a look at the site, seeing which parts of it would be most suitable for a facility, and now it would be done with .minimal damage, with no da, mage, I might ,a~dd, to the zKe, or to:any other piece of property. I'd li~e to Characterize this property as an exchange, not a gift. I'd like to ich,aracterize it aS an exchange for value. The Town would provide':a piece of property, and ' in exchange the Town would get a benefit, a benefit in terms of services provided town-wide by the YMCA organization. So, me it's an exchange that I had difficulty judging is in the Town's inter stS, and; the majority of the Board voted for that some months ago now. in the future when the Town starts getting into thel exact plot size, and where it would go, and the an opportunity ?t that time for people, who are present their cd~cerns, and ! would guess force, or to~ have a referendum on it when that a refereri( :is needed. I think the Board do~ take these dec|~ but there is want to, and s~ we can have a good subject. Are ther comments? will opportunities ;gal aspects of it, the ~ls of ii. There will be to to I'm not sure authority to ~ity if people )ate, on that DOMINICK PERINI: Dominick Perini. I come from ! on a 3.2 acre plot of land. It's pristine. It's beautJ it, as thought of for the YMCA would be a distra, countryside out here. I know this is a given thing, yard that's out of business right next to our libr; been there empty for a long time. It's a real aprop( town. I belonged to the Y myself when I lived in B~ this piece of land is sitting there looking blah, an, lro, oklyn, and I live uli' Ti~e place beside :io~ to our beautiful ~u~l~there is a lumber fY lin Mattituck. It's · place to have it ~n )o~iyn. It seems like we could utilize it, and the Mattituck library can utilize it's rooms for some Feadlngs, which We need more room, but we won,t have to get more room ~or the library, which would cost the taxpayers more money. 'So, I think that should be thought of in some way, some how, to do this, because I listen to these kids playing ball up there; ~and it's a beautiful sound. I taught Ithe .kids in my area, when I lived m Brooklyn, to play football. They didh't ~know how to play. In doing this, you make kids happy, etc. etc. I don~t see the YMCA making kids happy, but look at the place. It's their place~ and I told someone here, that my garage doors..I came out here every weekend to work on my house, and there was never graffiti. So, the point of doing something for the kids are nice. I'm not against the YMCA, but the location is what I'm conqerned with. Thank you. OCTOF~ER 77, 1995 4 2'5 SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Would anyone else llke to address the Board before the eight o'clock public hearing? PAUL SPARA: Paul Spara from Mattituck, concerned. Brown Tide summit meeting, I'm curious as to what we're going to do as far as Southold Town, and my concern is, is for over a year there's been a lot of study, a lot of research, and they've come up with nothing, actually any real concrete evidence of what causes the Brown Tide. I know we have some money for some remedial things, stormwater runoff, and stuff llke that. I would rather see our money going to those remedial things, rather back into a research, when it's already been established that they have no idea what's going on, and I've tal more of these meetings than I really care tQ, and I'll probably be ther 'or this one. How are the Five Towns getting together, and going about this? SUPERVISOR WICKFI~M: I'd like to address first the theme that you presented, and then ~1'11 try to answer the second question. Everyone in the Peconic Estuary Program views a program as basically a management program, a do it program, not just a study program. The problem is, we really don't know what to do to control Brown Tide. There's talk, for example, about the ~]r~inage outfall from Riverhead as a contributor to the contamination in the bay, which in turn contributes to Brown Tide. But, nobody knows if 'that's really true. There's talk about other nitrogen contamination into the bay. Nobody really knows whether that contributes to Brown Tide. In fact, nobody really knows what has contributed to the population dynamics waxing and waning of Brown Tide. It was gone for five years, and now suddenly it's with us again. Nobody knows why, and it's not only Peconic Bay. It's not only in Great South Bay. It's coming up in other parts of New England, and elsewhere. The problem with trying to solve a problem by essentially throwing money at it is, it doesn't work unless we unders~d the ~cientlfic technology, what's going on with the organ sm, the boogy of t Unfortunatey the research thats been carried out to date on ~this' h~s been very ad hoc, very broken up, short term, incoherent. It has not yielded a result. You're absolutely right. We haven't learned much from that research. What is needed is a consistent comprehensive package, l~h. at will aim towards result, like the analogy that gi've iS the Manhatta~ project for the atom bomb. I mean, you had a whole group of people really focused on a problem for several years to get some answers. Not just somebo.~y in a graduate research student somewhere doing something, and som~wher;~ else doing something unrelated~ That's the ki~d of focus that we're proposing to give to this effort's, and I thin~k it's important. Now, y0~ur question was, what can the t0wn. s ou~ here do? The fi~e towns on the ~1 of iLong Island have met several ti~e~, And'hav~ said~ all of us, that we'r'e~ keenly interested, even in putting some res~ourc~s in, to this if we knew that they would do some good. But, R.verhead is not prepared to try to stop the effluent from it's outfall drain unless somebody can tell Riverhead, that, hey, that's the stuff that ~eally contributes to Brown Tide, and nobody can say that with assurance~ So, this research would lay the foundation or the groundwork for a con~erted effbrt by the t~ive towns, and I might add by Suffolk County, and by the State, and by EPA to assist the towns to take remedial action. But, nobody is prepared to just throw money at a probem unless we re pretty certa n that it will have an impact. PAUL SPARA: It brings up a question now of throwing money. Where is the money coming from? Are we getting any grants? SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: For the conference, the EPA is putting up the bulk, and Sea Grant are putting up the bulk of that~ The research program that I outlined, and that the conference is addressing, would cost between one, and one and a quarter million dollars. We're tryJng to find support for that at the State level, and at the Federal level. If we can have a viable conference that clearly points to some effective research organizations, and laboratories in the United States that really come together behind Us 'with some Cogent research agenda, '1 thCnl< the funds Can b~ found. Fred The[lo, Who i~ an intereStea /~ss~ml~lyman in~ A'l'lCany, he'll work at it; congressman Forbes',' he'll be interested in it at the Federal level. What .we need to do is develop an agenda, that we can sell' to: the funding agencies. PAUL SPARA: And that's the purpose of the summit meeting? SUPERVISOR WiCKHAM: PAUL SPARA: Who's yourself? That's right. going to be our representative from Southold, SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I'm going to be there for much of it. I have asked a couple of other people to be there, and I'm not sure whether they can, one of our Trustees, and other people. Other people, who I see here in the audience, who would make wonderful participants, who demonstrated a research interest over the years, and who could clearly make a contribution to. that. PAUL SPARA: Okay, and I suppose at this time, that you're going to have some kind of time frame for this research, how long it's going to go on? SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: The whole thing is contingent upon finding support. To find support, you have to come up with a program of action, a research program. This conference would hopefully define that. Then we have to sell it. Assuming we can come up with the money then it would be up to two to three year research program. PAUL SPARA: Back to the question of, we do have $50,000 or something like that for some remedial things to be done within the town, has that money been spent? SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: . We have been spending the money on road runoff, and we have a million dollars commitment from the State of New York for eleven road runoff remedlatlon projects along Route 25. ThaUs wending it's way, you know, slowly through the bureaucracy of the New York State Department of Transportation, but I'm sure that by next year that money will be available to us, too. PAUL SPARA: Thar~k you. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Thank you, Paul. Yes, sir? HANK KUHN: Hank Kuhn from Laurel back to the Y question. Since this will be a regional facility are any of the surrounding towns ready to participate in the cost of involvement in it? SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Since it's a regional facility, Riverhead is the logical town to help Southold Town with this. I have talked to some of the elected officials of Riverhead,_ and they're comment to me has been, you know, we~d be very interested in talking about that, and I anticipate after tile elections, sitting down with Riverhead, and finding out ways in which Riverhead would like to participate in this. I think they would. I think there is interest in R|verhead, but people in Riverhead are not prepared to commit at this time, how that interest would be manifested. HANK KUHN: The reason I was thinking that is, there is a lot of empty land in Riverhead on the North Road, that might be available for this facility. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: That's a good thought. I see it's after eight o'clock, and I'd llke to move '.to recess this Town Board meeting in order to go into a public, hearing. After the hearing is finished we'll come back into the town meeting, and resume the questions and comments from the audience. Moved by Supervisor W|ckham, seconded by Justice Evans, it was RESOLVED that a recess be called at this time, 8:00 P.M., for the purpose of holding a public hearing. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Nussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wlckham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. Meeting reconvened at 8:05 P.M. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: i'd like to go back to the Town Board meeting, and I see that we have one last resolution to take up before we resume the questions with the public. 20.-Moved by Supervisor Wickham, seconded by Councilman Townsend, WHEREAS, there was presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold, on the 2nd day of October, 1995, a Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in Relation to Landfill Permit Fees by Resolution"; and WHEREAS, a public hearing was held on this Local Law by the Southold Town Board on the 17th day of October, 1995, at which time all interested persons were given an opportunity to be heard; now, therefore, be it RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby enacts Local Law No. 21 1995, which reads as follows: LOCAL LAW NO. 21 - 1995 BE IT ENACTED,by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows: Chapter 48 (Garbage, Rubbish and Refuse) of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby amended as follows: 1. Section 48-4A is hereby amended as follows: A. The fees for the issuance of permits and/or licenses for vehicles transporting refuse into any refuse disposal area maintained by the Town of Southold shall be in the amounts prescribed by the Town Board, by resolution and as amended from time to time. Permits shall be issued as follows: 2. Section 48-4A(1) is hereby amended as follows: (1)id) The-fee fo,~l~e-issuanc, e~ff-a-resMent !3~dfill ~e~it shall be ~~~hal.l-b~~d b~~~u~el~ ~wn Board. 3. Section 48-4A(2) is hereby amended as follows: (2)(c) T-~e4ee-fe~lqe-i~sua~ee-ef-3 guest-lessee-lar~(~f~ll-~ermit shall be-su~~ha!l b~l~reseFibed by a reeelut4en of the 8eutheld Town Beard.~ 4 Section 48-4A(3) is hereby amended as follows: (3)(c) :r~egee-fer-"'~e-iesuanee-ef-a-gues(qaR~l¢ilPt~ermit shall-be suc:,h" fee-ae-sl~alPbec~e86r4be~Lby a Ceselu~iep-ef-t~e Seuthekl-T-ewr4 5. Section"48-4A(4) through (131 is hereby deleted in its entirety: Rer-lee, d fee-of b,vo dollars ($2.)4ePeach ner~6emmer~al vehiele--eFless than epee-top,, CaF~a¢ity which possess ne-ceramiC. (5) P-er-lead fee ef--~,i,'-ty dollars ($3©.--)4er 'ea61q-sinejle-a~(le4Pa6k which does net possess ~ permit. Ar'4r4ual-fee-ef-ei~-y~el4ars ($60.) fer-eac:,h commercia~Lyelai~e tran.~erting-4i~uid se¢i~wa$~e, to~je(her-with ~n =dsli+jona! fee e~lqFee-6er4t-s ($~0~.-fer-ea6h-6jalter~-ef-li~tui~t-wa~e (7) Annual-fee-of-sixty dollars ($6Q.-~Jer each cemmer~al 6e~pa6~,eCs-vehiele-eMess-~ha R-eRe-ter+4'nax4mum-~ro s s velai~e.-weie, l~t= (8) AnP~ual fe~ef sixty-~lelta~s ($69.--~-fer-eael~a~rmveMc:Je-ef--er4e- t:eR-er mer-e-6aF~aeity4FaP, sF~eF~iRg-a g r4c, ul.~r-al-wa s t e. (-9) ~p-lea~-fee-ef s!..'dy dellar--s-($80.) for-each deuble-a~le4pa6,k wh ieiq~eee-r4et~es.,sess- a p~mit~ (10) A~RuaPfee-ef-Nve-hund~ed b,~e~y~ellars ($220.) for eat4 . ei~gle-a~le vehi61e-~ra~sl~e~-selid-wa~e~-ga~bage~ (1 '~) AR,quaPfee-e~wo huF~tre~-~wenty dollars ($220.) fer-ea6~ cemme~6ial co~traeter's' vehielo of mer~aa~-er~eqen CaF~a64t-y. (12) A~uaPfee~f-six hu~tr-eC-~lellars ($69©.~4er each ~eubie-a-x4e a~d/or comF~aeter.ty~ewe~hic!e-',r-anspeding solid waste ~gar~age~. (13) ARRual-fee4C-eix-huRd~ed dellar~s-($66)0.)fer-eaeh commercial 6eR*,raeter's de,able3x!o aRCer traef:er~pailer coml~i~a~en of ~erc thaF-'-H~Re-ten 6. Section 48-4F is hereby deleted in its entirety: Ame~tmeFC,-ef4ees. NebcvithstaR¢i~g 3,qy-ef-t-!:,,e~r-ev-isiens heree~ t~e-T-ewn Board may~-by-reeelut~en, claangs, meeiify eft-he-fees set feFth I1. This Local Law shall take effect upon filing with the Secretary of State, * Underline ~epresents additions. ** Strikethrough represents deletion. 20.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewskl, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. OCTOBE ,7, 4 2 9 SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: That completes the resolutions before us, ,and the Board is pleased to hear comments from the audience. Yes, str, the gentleman in black by the door? FRANK CARLIN: Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. from Laurel. Before I start I have a question for you, Tom. going hold the public hearing on the budget? Frank Carlin When are you SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: The Town Board will adept a budget to go out to hearing on or before the 27th of October. TOWN CLERK TERRY: The hearing will be on November 9th. FRANK CARLIN: Why do you hold it after election? SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: It's possible we could hold it before that. FRANK CARLIN: I suggest you hold it before that. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I would like to, too, Frank. FRANK CARLIN: Why can't you? SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: It's up to the Board to get it all together, and get a budget to enact before that time to hold it. But, what will happen is the Board will take a vote by the 27th, October 27th, to put that budget out to hearing, and to be advertised in the newspaper. That will go out on the 27th, not later than the 27th of October. FRANK CARLIN: I'd appreciate it if my time starts now. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: All right. Your time starts now, Frank. Go ahead, five minutes. FRANK CARLIN: Again, Mr. Supervisor, I"m not against the YMCA, but if you would have taken the time two weeks ago on a Sunday, and drove down to Laurel Park, what you would have seen was children playing on the seesaws, the monkey bars, the swings, the slides, people using the two baseballs fields, people using the picnic benches, people going in and out of the information center. The problem is that we don't get around town enough. We depend on too many committees to tell us what's going on in town. We've got to travel around town more to see these things. You know, it cost the Town to put that park there, over $100,000. Now, it's in jeopardy, because you want to be a Santa C~aus to the YMCA. You made a statement, it wouldn't cost the taxpayers no money. The last week or two you spent a thousand dollars on an environmental study. To me, that's putting the &art before the horse. That should have been done before you passed the resolution to locate it in Laurel. Do you know they can't drink that water in the information centerT They use bottled water. They flush the toilet, and it's brown. There could be a water problem there. How are they going to get a building permit? See, that should have been studied before you passed the resolution. What will they do if they find out, and I think I've got the answer, if there is a water problem there? Oh, we'll hook up to the Suffolk County Water Authority. It's right down the road. Who's going to pay for that, the taxpayers? It's too bad that, that beautiful park is going to be in jeopardy, because you decided without even giving the people a chance to vote on it in our area here. (Tape change.) They use that park all the time. What's your answer to me, if that water happens to be unacceptable? How they going to build then? There's a man over here by the landfill on the North corner got a lawsuit against the Town. He wants to build, but .he can't build because the water is effected. The Planning Board won't give him a permit to build. What happens if that water is not acceptable? What's going to happen? See? You jump to conclusions. You should have made the study, come up with things like this, and then had it on a resolution. But, no, you pushed a resolution through, and now you're going to make the study. This is only the beginning, a thousand dollars. I don't have time for my next subject, but I'm going to come back, because I'm going to tell you why I'm going to come back, because if Mayor Kapell can stand up here for forty-five minutes, and pound on this podium, I have the right to at-least come back once, or twice more, and say what I want to complete. It won't be on this subject. It will be on something else. I'll give it to somebody else for now, but I'm like General MacArthur. I shall return. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Thank you, Frank; WoUld anyone else like to address the Board this evening? DAVID CORWIN: My name is David Corwin, and I'd like to address your Town Budget that was worked on for awhile this morning. I realize the public hearing will be held, but it's my observation that once it's in black and white, and adopted by the Town Board, the public hearing has little meaning. A couple of items I'd like to question is you mentioned the 3%. Apparently, 3% salary raise for people throughout the town. That's the drift of what I was getting this morning, and I'm seeing different raises for different people, and I'm wondering if people got more than others, or why is that. The Assessors got it.?%. The Town Clerk got 3%. The Town Attorney got 9.7%, so I'm just wondering if it's uniform throughout~ or some people got more than others? I'd like to address the Town Attorney item. The Village of Greenport has brought a lawsuit against the town. Now, as a resident of Greenport, I have to pay taxes twice for the lawsuit. It's double taxation, Which I realize the Town likes to do that in the Village of Greenport, tax us more than once. I don't think it's right. I've raised that question before. It's double taxation, and the people that are going to benefit, if you win the lawsult, Southold Town wins the lawsuit, other people in Southold Part Town, not the people in Southold Whole Town. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I'd just like to interrupt you to say, I don't think anybody on this Board likes that legal action. There's nobody here who wants that to happen. We're not happy with this, as you put it, double taxation. I don't Pike the inference, that we're happy with this. DAVID CORWIN: I'm not making that inference, because I'm not happy with it either, and I told you that, but I'm not happy with paying for it twice. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Neither are we. DAVID CORWIN: I mentioned increases in salary. The Bay Constable apparently got 8.9% 'ncrease in salary. Control of dogs, this is my favorite one, $118,000 Contractual Expenses to keep dogs alive, rather than euthanasia them. I called up that Dog Shelter, and your Police Department time and time again, to complain about a dog in my neighborhood. I still can't walk down my side of the street, because that dog comes after me. Nothing gets done. This money going to the North Fork Animal Welfare League is just an insult to the taxpayers from my prospective, when nothing is done. You go to the Police, oh, North Fork Animal League. You go to North Fork Animal League, oh, the Police. This is wrong to pay $118,000 for nothing, but keeping dogs alive until they die of old age. Superintendent of Highways salary, it shouldn't be in the Whole Town Budget. The Village of Greenport has a Highway Department. We're paying for supervision. Why do we have to pay for it twice? We're being taxed double. Street lighting, $66,000, it shouldn't be in the Whole Town Budget. The Village of Greenport has their own street lights, but we have to pay double. You guys are already to run to the Village, and say, help us set up a utility, so we can have lower electric rates, but you're also all ready to go down to the Village of Oreenport, and take as much money in the Village of Oreenport out of the Village of Greenport as you can at every opportunity you have. I don't think that's right. Off Street Parking, it shouldn't be in the Whole Town Budget. It should be in Part Town. The Village of Greenport has it's funds for off street parking. Child Day Care, now, there may be information. I don't understand here. I'm not familiar with it, but it went from $10,000 to zero dollars this year. I'm wondering why that is. Basically it's saying to young working mothers, who need day care, as I read this, correct me if I'm wrong, we're not going to help you out, and yet Programs for the Aging at a 5.~1% increase. Library Contractual Expenses, $1~5,000 last year, this year is zero dollars. Now, I think libraries are a very important resource. What I can't understand is how you can spend $28,000 for tourJst, for advertising to bring tourists in the town, and you can't help the libraries out to the tune of $1.00. Publicity, $28,000, which is basically to bring tourists into the Town of Southold, as I understand it. Well, from my prospective, I got to tell you, we've gpt about the righ't amount of tourists in the Town of Southold now. I don't think we need a whole lot more. Trustees, $130,000, $131,000 for the Town Trustees. I think their salaries should be cut in half, and I will tell you why. Councilwomar~ OlJva was here. She worked very hard on this Local Waterfront Revitalization Program. She asked for volunteers. She got a lot of people to volunteer, to give the town in'formation to send to ~he consultant. I was one of them. i spent many hours, and a lot of other peop!e spent many hours. I came to e~ery meeting, Which none of you people ~hd, that I remember, .except for cour;cilW6mar~ OJiva. One or tWo of the Trustees came to those meetings for Loca ~ WaterfrOnt Revita ization Program. When it was time to have input for the flna draft of Lo'cai 'Waterfront Revltahzatlon, the Trustees d~dn t even show up.. They had no input, These are the people, the experts. I r'ealize you do~i~ hav~ a 10t Of control over the Trustees.' They're elected, :but: you their salary is too high if ~hey're not apparently do g~ ng t~'Jtake I'm I'm Hi get 0Usly; Whole Town Tree committee; $5,000, in the Village of Greenport for trees. for trees. Community ~ole port. one Whol~ Town t have a do don't get have ouir' $59,000, last N( was in your lap. not'done pr0perl~ but I feel squeezing Greenport, you may end up with the Whole thin you 9ot it. Of SOUthol,d :an :up? I we . :I~!~S not dng 000, the O on ~nd b~ sorry SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: David, could be please conclude your comments? DAVID CORWIN: I've only got one or two more things to go. Highway Whole Fund, Other Uses transferred to Other Funds, being 9901.9, $99,000, there's no explanation of what that is, so I can't really make a comment, but it would be great if there was a little more notation in there. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Okay, I think the Board might like to respond to some of these comments. Let me just say that on the salaries issues, all the salaries in the Budget are up, virtually all of them are up exactly 3%. The fact that the numbers occasionally look to be more or less is because the 1995 figures were estimates when they went into the budget. But, all of the 1996 est]mates are 3% over what we know now will be the accurate figures for 1995. We're lucky to have on our Board a former Mayor of Greenport. Joe, would you like to comment on any of these assertions about Greenport? COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: I've sort of lost track. It's been awhile. I wrote a few notes down in the beginning. You know, the relationship between a village and a town..the same relationship between Southold and Greenport exists throughout the state. The same law applies to all the Villages in the various towns throughout the state, and everybody adheres to them. When I was Mayor I had the same concerns. I brought those concerns, and looked into the legal aspect of it, and 'found in fact that the Town had a right to charge these things. I don't know what the justification for it is. I guess that the Villages use the Town road to go to the Town beaches, to scallop in the Town waters, and they cross the Town bridges, and you know, they are part of the town, and they travel. Why we're not charged to use Village streets, I don't know. When I was Mayor we did return time and materials to the Village. Al Herzog had negotiated with Ray Dean, and we used to get a fair amount for our money. I don't know if that is still the case, and what Ray Jacobs does with your current Highway Superintendent, but there was some money given for that. I think before we cry real crocodile tears for the Village, we ought to realize that the Village would be paying now close to $90'0,000 for Police protection, and in fact, even there is some unrest about the Police protection they are now paying about one-fourth of that, less than a fourth of that, less than 24%, which resulted: in refunds on the Village Hall steps. -[here are many things that ar~ 'b~neifi~s Qf. iiying in the Vi lage. You'Pointed to one of the~, utility. You pay much less rates than the reset oT S0uthold TOwn: Your water rag:es: are less than Southold TaWn. Yiou cl~a~e muck"more fbr tiring outside for water, which is legal ri~h:t ~t0 advantages . to living in the Villa! he fact; them for many. years. S~me of the he North .Fork Animal Welfa:re .Leagu.e, walk .b~ ):p, or their se~ fund raisers I ha.ye, looked maybe ,,ten years ago, [.looked at End.. and we. iwe~e ';ver.y we pe~ dog . to dog what,,~ the hear:tag o~ welfarrel ,in mgne¥, Iw nd I' are it'. less our ach past, good,: deal :ork cou pie i,of se~ lib the iss~ I can but brought hear~ing~ q uestlons the~ ,budge' ],:~l~d b~r ~appy to answer keep all, ~b(Jt I ~ ~ ~ ere want to the'll~Jsiness with that sort. of care, a COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: I don't know anything about the child care. COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: That's the North Fork Child Care Grant, Early Learning Center. COUNCILWOMAN HUSSIE: Some of us on the Board felt that the money that we were giving to not-for-profit groups was rather commonly done, and it was my thrust to form some sort of a decision on how not-for-profit organizations should be receiving any money from the town. General philosophy was that they were doing something that the Town would have to do ordinarily, or the Town should do, they should get the money. When the grant .program, or the form for the grant program, and the crlterla were established, ~1 was thinking, and I think some other Board members were thinking Of not-for-profit organizations. We were not considering such organizatiolns as veteran's services, bands and concerts, libraries, museums, historic societies. Those are things that had for many years been funded by the town, to a certain extent, with a little stipend. They are volunteer organizations. They were not part of my thought. When this was being prepared, for the budget discussion somehow libraries, and museums got into the mlx~ Lm hop ng that during our discussions furthe~ with the budget we will ta~ke the libraries, the veteran's organizations, out of this list of competitive grants. ! really feel that it belongs ~nly in those areas where we might have to do something, you know, some service that they perform, and we would prefer to have them do it; and We're Willing to help them. Does that answer you to a degree? DAVID CORWIN: Thank you. I would like to, if you will give me another minute or two,. respond to some of the things Mr. Townsend said. The law clearly says, that you can charge the Village for those Whole Town Highway items. Just because the Law says it, does not make it right. It is unfair to tax m? doubly. That law comes from the fact that some villages are [and 0cked, an~ the village residents must use Town roads to get out of OCTOBER !7, 1995 433 their village. Nobody in the Village of Greenport has to use a ,Town road to get out of the Village. They can use County Road ~-8, or State Road 25. More people come inside the Village of Oreenport, and use the Village roads from Southold Town than people go from the Village of Greenport outside and use Town roads. The North Fork Animal League, what ever the budget is, it has no bearing on the fact, that they are totally ineffective. They are just not doing any job in terms of controlling dogs. All they're doing is keeping them alive. As, far as the water is concerned, the reason the rate is lower in the Village is :because, I, as a taxpayer in the Village have to carry the ,whole burden of that system should it go bankrupt. People that use the water outside the Village just say, hey,, that's too bad about the Village of Oreenport.. I have to pay off the debt, so that's ~not a fair. compar'ison for my money. Thank you. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Would anyone else like to address the Board?, RORY SIMPSON: Rory~.Simpson, I live in Mattituck. I'm Chairman of the Substance .Abuse Committee for ~the Town of Sou[l~old, and i'm here representing t~hat.¢ommittee tonight. The Committee met h and they wanted me to come to the Board meeting tonight to make : requests of, the Town Board, very simple type things, just clarification ow we should deal with a few things. First of all, just to let you know that there's,~ been an update.~iWe are establishing a Southol,d Clea alcohol and drug inform; tion at the Human ,Resource and I would llke, to pub cly thank T~m Driscol/~ and help in ~. us Pat Ac provided ~s~, - for Substanc:e samples of whatev, er~ ~help, we width a tilings that we before that I made Fedel~al sys~tem, )tint for tl~re~ h~n~lred ,Executive Bob Ga~fney's Office glv us the master list this cleari~gi for next he i,~own Board has been; t~ker . We were going over sore, md.alcoh01 and related come in iytime; th;e have wilJ be g~t ou one our lot mo~ t~ing, t~nk ~ we were to put like it ,e~ :by the Town l C of ttituck~ for his ~ to thank hat she and being lures, with ng us come call Police Poi ide in any a~ small some of you ~k it can ace ,a a third I~t me;I s~amps, Cleari c st. SUPERMISO~ Wl~qlflAr¢~ !My :quick things co~la P~ob~!g be ~ranged w~ see cop es of~ ,iJl~e m~n~teg: of your Ut ned ~O ~e B~rd~ n~ lUSg me, see them~ a~d~ ~ff ~gUId g~[ od them wr tten fo.~m.;: in [fac~ ~ll[ commmlte ~r tten Blnutes ' ; i~ i I i! ~ ~, ~' ~ !~ " f the cuff resp~d~:e, a !P,t of these tile Town Clerrl~ I! w,q~u~d hke to et ng to !h~/e sbme ~ of :~a~e th ngs [h nk the; WDole ~ayd ~ ,Oq~d want to we read y, ff t~e~¢;cd n~¢ t~ usc In ,a of the t~n a~' ~p~ ~S~ to ha~. RORY SIMPSON..' fn two weeks. TOWN CLERK TERRY:-If'.you give them to me, Rory, I'll distribute them, and I know we can arrange a good spot for your brochures. SUPERVISOR::WICKHAM: Anyone else like to address the Board? Yes, sir? REV. CORNELIUS !'FULFORD: I'm 'Reverend Cornelius Fu/ford. Pastor of tho First Baptist Church ~of Cutchogue. and we are 'still trying to solve the problem of;the st~-ip,of land which is on the opposite side of our church. l!m going' to 'be brief, :because 'I've go( to go to another meeting', but I read in the paper last 'week,~and I'm quite sure that everyone here..I can thank Viola Cross for clearing up some things that were said about us; When it come to the Republican or Democrat. I'm here to let you know that, and I read the' apOIogy~:coming from Townsend, but lira here to'-Iet yOU ,Enow that we, as a church, I've been in this church six years, and since I've been there the,lchurch had,, / thihk, thirty-five members, now, it be close to two h;undred. On, Sunday' mOrning; egpecially this coming wlntePtime; I'm:quite sure that if: you go', past th'ere On SUnday mornings you going to see: that the yard iS f~ill' :of~ Caper, 'and everything coming fr°~n ;the d~mP, 'arid not only that, when,I-first came there, the~ water was no goo~l.' The water was so bad ers didn't want to use the and~so; we ~re trying have a Of. th~ will aid with wh?;t t~mes abou~ the tan~li on dearly to thi'i~k :t~ R'epub/icari, hOW, know now, that God ahd ,only GOd? Somebc lawyer, and'- ~0 Rei~ublicani. .We'll, whether 'PaUl was a good law' sg; and so Oo~t,' We i~ comes person there ]cross the' ~oad from the..chu~ ~ there 'to serve the community, larYd, ,at fop the Lord. we have ,u many of it :,hu~t me On this Committee here:, woul bOut': the' influenced Us. t;'m .quite,i sure thait;:';you That that' serve GOd e 'a about He'i~' Our because: he's: a I~' dldn~t Enow an, because heI is',a bout 'Ye do that not God .~st that h' is ask We!re you woul dbnate reasonable town, and to come he thin~ I ~l!let t You, ~ome! of the community, and I'm not about the c.hur~ch.' You You got street. You at night. ~idk ~am, you, want: You ci~n th~e nigl~t after nig to pay. One thing I'm go problems, but you will not ~Vithln. A person g we don't ~ork with crime man, and tur problem down working with t~rC~ing peo~ came out low~ not donate it~ you c~ kin~,g is for you' tO help doWt put n Enow, and Tom Wi~ ~le already know, we are to talk about the YM a problem down in You got old lPeOple, that c~ and drunk, aq going on. One this, you can ~m, and they're take, and let yo~ rid of Iovim what but wo nls mind.~ ~d to the point that you motivate them to get their self-esteem O. 'l and yog you a have :-Piot trUe~ One ulte s'ukb that ime. the be 'Tom as down ti~at they love themselves. Nobody that don't love themselves, don't love nobody else. If you can teach people how to love themselves no matter what color or creed you are, then you will find out that crime is eliminated, the alcohol, and the drug addict. This is what we're all about. COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Reverend Fulford, before you go I just want to assure you that I never felt that the church was consciously aiding a p.oii~ical party, l never .fel. t that, and I apologize for the. remark that was made in the paper. It was uncalled for, and it was in response to a quest;ion, that was given to me by the reporter, do you think that there is a political motivation, and I suppose the reason he gave that question was because it was juxtaposed with, the YMCA issue, and [he donation of land, or giving land to the YMCA. The time was there, and unfortunately respQnded.inappr0priateiy, and I said, well., maybe there was. The reason I said that was because Mr. Caminiti, who I consider a friend o[ mine, and I know is a very religious man, and I'm sure was helping you probably because of that to a degree; he is a devout man:, was. also a devout Republican, as I was. I didn't mean any disrespect. I said it. It was fllp. It was stupid, but I just want to say again, that ! didn't mean anything in respect to the church. I, as the rest of the Town Board, want to help you in your project. We realize the good you do in this community; and so I want to lend you my support, and I'll try to make up for the gaffe. I hope it didWt hurt anybody's reputation, but I never felt that you were consciously aiding, one party agains~ another. I never felt that, and I idn't.mean to imply, that in the paper. I felt that, you know, what may ave happened wa~ that, you know, someone said, they're doing this hel~e, and. maybe they'l .donate the land to you.. I never thought that tl~e~church c~onsc~ously, and I:ididn't mean to imp;ly that in the pape?,i so .that WaS the origin, of that COmment, :and. if you ~a;~oid sticking your :~foet i.!~ .your mouth more than .one .a '~ea:r in th~s business, you're d~ing p'(etty Well'. live had my .quota. Would anyone else like to address the Board, so our mouth? Yes, sir. the gentleman in blue? HANK KUHN: J, ust a follow-up question to your comment before. You mentioned about the people in Ri~erhead expnesslng some .interest in cooperating on the yMCA. How would you envision them cooperating? SU.PEI~VISOR WICKHAM: The Town Of Southold has prepared to exchange value in terms of s~me. property for a service. Th.at i servlce will be [~royided, not only to, the Town of Southold, but also to pa~t of the Town of ii.~erl~ad. I intend tO go to the Town of Riverhead, anal discuss with them whether they v~ou d Jike to participate n this exchange in some manner. I'm go~6g to begin by earing it up to them how wou d they ike to ;part c pate, whether they would, and if so how? My initial informal contacts have found quite a bit gf interest, but they've also said, let's wait a few more weeks t~efore we~ really get info this. HANK KUHN: So, you don't knoTM. SUPER¥1SOR WICKHAM: I don't know at this time. It isn't for us to basically tell Riverhead what it's going to do. It's to begin this with an opportunity, and see What their response is. But, I do look forward to having those discussion. Anyone else before we come to Mr. Carlln, anyone else like tO address the Board this evening on any matter before us? (No response.) If not, Mr. Carlin you have the last five minutes. FRANK CARLIN: A couple of questions on the Budget. You know it's strange to see an increase in spending, and a reduction of the tax rate. Now, that's good. There's nothing wrong providing it doesn't affect the service to the people. I'm going to give you an example on this here. Mayor Kapell last year, or this year rather, or last year, I'm going to abolish the Police Department, i'm going to reduce taxes. So, he did. He gave back part of the two hundred fifty, three hundred dollars to each taxpayer. Man, that was great. Now, he~s paying the price, complaining he doesn't have enough police protection. So, you can't have your cake, and eat it at the same time. You stated that you're going to add five police officers in 1996 budget. Can you show me anywhere in the police budget that will reflect the cost of those five police officers? Because it seems to me the budget for the police officers for 1996 is about the same as it was for 1995. That's think it is, if you can show me. Now, I'll tell you another thing that's going to happen here. Say you do hire five police officers, we won't see a police officer added to Southold Town Police until next September, because the next class in Westhampton starts up in March. It takes six months. So, we're talking about ten more months before we see a police officer added to this Southold Police. So, now what's going to happen? You're going to go through the same thing we have in the past year. All the overtime the taxpayers are going to be spending out of their pockets, and all that's going to happen. But, when you add it 'up, 'if they get fiYe p011ce offlcers by n~xt S;el~tember, I'd:say, put 'that t:ogether, it tool~ tlii~'Board almost two years to add five police officers, since, we abolished the, GreenPort Police Department. That's nothing to write home about. An0tJher'questlon, you ai~o said , y0u're. ~going, to give no increase in raises ',to any ~ Town el:ected official', How come you're giving Ruth ,Oliva Sk~,'00O, to,'be'', exact '$4';2627 Can you answer that, =Mr. Supervls~r?= SUPERVISOR WI:CKHAM: Yes, wher~ you're finished. FRANK CARl.IN: Well., I asked you:the question. SUPERVISOR WlCKHAM: When you're finished I'll be glad to address all these matters. FRANK CARLIN: Highway Department, the man need $100,000 for equipment, and knowing Ray Jacobs, he d0n't spend money foolishly. He'll but second hand trucks rather than go out and spend for a new one. You cut him down to $165,000 this year. You know that $65,000 it's $5,000 more than what Ray Dean received ten years ago. What happens if you get a bad winter, snow plows,-snow, salt? You"re probably, going to say, wells he can come to the :Town Board, and we'll give it to him. Why should he have to go to the Town Board? Why can't you trust the man, and give him his $100,0007 I'm sure he's not going to spend if he don't need to spend it. He don't spend money foolishly. Why did you cut the guy down to slxty-f~ve. He's roads to 'take care of, and roads being 'added to the Highway Department. There's over four hundred miles of roads in this town to maintain, and knowing Ray Jacobs, he works on a bare bone budget. Well, I guess that's ~all I have to say tonight, but i'11 tell you one more thing. When I was sittli~g back there it dawned on me. You know, I might have a solution about the YMCA. I'm getting back to that now. I might have solution of where 'to put that YMCA. 'You know, you just got thirty:four acres of wetland donated to you for a dollar. Give them three acres of that. They'd like to be by the water. How's that one, Tom? With that sense of humor, do you like that one? Now, give me the answer on how come R'~th Ollva got SU,,000, and no other member on the Town Board is getting it? I'd like to hear that one. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Let's begin with the first issues you raised, the question of the police. How can the Town add five new police officers at 1996, and still have a budget that only about 3 or 4 percent more than 1995. That's your question basically. Let me answer it. The answer is, because 1995, we're paying a substantial amount of overtime on our existing officers. In 1996 with the five new police officers we won't need to pay nearly as much overtime, and that overtime is on relatively costly salaries, whereas the five new people will be relatively Iow, because there will be new people. The second question you asked about the police is how the question it will take to field them, because of the training requirement. As you know, the police officers that we hire, the bulk of them will come from the preferred list of former Greenport officers, who don't need to go through that Police Academy. FRANK CARLIN: You only got one. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: There are several there, who we could take. FRANK CARLIN: Where? SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: There are at least two. FRANK CARLIN: You need three. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: There are three I believe. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: There are three I believe. FRANK CARLIN: Why don't you hire them now? SUPERVISOR W!CKHAM: I'm not going to name them, but there is as many as three, who we could hire off that llst. FRANK CARLIN: waiting for? Why don't you hire them up until now? What are you SURERVISOR WICKHAM: That wasn't the question you asked, Frank. I'll answer the questions that you asked. FRANK CARLIN: I'll ask that question later. SUPERVI~SOR WlCKHAM: Now, the second question was Ruth Oliva. Ruth Ollva is a Deputy Supervisor. I proposed, because she is virtually a full-time person here in the office, virtually every day full-time, that she contributes more to the Town of Southold than the rest of the Town Board members. That doesn't mean the other Town Board members. (tape change) It's on the order of $2,300.00. Just arbitrarily speaking, I said let that increase or stipend be at the same level as a Planning Board member, or a Zoning Board member, or a Trustee, which is on the order of $7,000 or $8,000 more than the rest of the Town Board members. I put it on the table. It's out there for the Board to discuss. Hey, I'm open to what the Board says. It's a proposal. This has not gone to public hearing yet. The Board hasn't adopted it yet. It's a proposition on my part, that reflects my view of her value to the Town. The third question you asked was about the Highway Budget. Yes, Ray Jacobs does run tight ship. Yes, he does get used equipment. Yes, he does do a careful job in managing the Town, and I'm grateful for that:, the Highwa¥'s Department. But, I judged, looking at the performance from last year, but first it's the Town Board's responsibility to enact a tight, careful budget. These are times when we have to look for cost savings. These are times when no department in Town government is immune. No :: department is above the budget. We have to look across the Police, the Highwaysr every single budget of Town government. It seemed to me, that there were opportunities in Highways to economize. I made those proposals in the budget that I presented to the Board. Now, the Board is going to take a look at it. We're going to have a debate, and a discussion, and we haven't finalized that yet. In fact, the Highway Superintendent has yet to appear before us to have a full discussion about this. We may come to some different view. Even I may come to a different view, but in the beginning, at this stage, the proposal that I made are, I think, responsible ones. I think the Town can carry out a strong program with that budget., and I think it's an effective program: The last: question you asked about the Highways is, what happens if we don't have enough money in the Highways budget. Well, I've asked for a $100,000 contingency item in the General Fund Whole Town, and I've asked the Board to keep it there, as a contingency in case it is needed, in case we do have a devastating year with hurricanes, and storms. So, I do think it's responsible, and I do think that there is an assurance factor built into it, that could look after those affairs. FRANK CARLIN; You know there are things the man wants to do, and remember when I opened my statement I said, reducing taxes is fine providing it doesn't affect the service. This man has got additional roads going to be added to his control, like I said. He's only asking for what he really needs. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: If he can make the case to the Board, these are the things absolutely essential, that he has to have it to carry out his mandate, i'm sure the Board will find a way to restore those monies to his budget. I'll even join with the Board. FRANK CARLIN: You people on this Board should have enough faith in that man to listen to what he said, and believe what he said, not make him come and prove the case. He has to go to court to prove a case. The man is in the department. He knows what he needs. You should give I~im the benefit of the doubt. Like I said, he runs a tight ship. He don't spend money for nothing. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I'll just comment, that the Town of Southold has tots of department heads, elected or appointed, each one of them make those cases. It is the responsibility of the Town Board to look very careful at those numbers, and ultimately to adopt a responsible budget that is in the taxpayers' interest. We do not simply take the numbers, that a department head, whether he's elected, or appointed, gives us. I don't, and I don'.t think the rest of the Board does. FRANK CARLIN: .In other words, you don't believe what anybody says SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: That's right'. When it comes to a budget I don't believe what anybody gives us. It's the Board, that is going to have to review those numbers, and the Board is going to have to agree with them. FRANK CARLIN: Are you there all day long, eight hours a day, three hundred sixty-five days, and know what the man has to do, and what he spends, and what his responsibility are? How do you know? SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: No. FRANK CARLIN: How can you make that judgement? SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: No, and neither am I in the Police Chief's Office. Neither am I Tn our Recreation Department, or the Planning Board Office, or in the Town. Clerk's Office. We go through those budgets. We look at them very carefully, and ultimately it's the responsibility of this Board to change the system of doing things, Frank. We do not just adopt budgets, that keep~ g.o. lng up each year. The time has come to make a change. The Town of South~ld has got to understand that, and we're going to do it responsibly. We're going to do it carefully. We're going to ask each departmen~ I~ead to make it's case, and if we have tried to cut too dramatically, I 'hope we'll have the wisdom to restore some of that. That's all I can say~. FRANK CARLIN: You say about the Police Department. You still, no matter what you're saying, you're still going to be laying out overtime. We got ~o get away from that overtime. SUPERVISOR :WICKHAM: That's right. That's exactly right, and that's what we're trying to do. FRANK CARLIN: Four, six, eight ten months yet...That's what I~m trying to say. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Ladies and gentlemen, we've had a lengthy evening. FRANK CARLIN: Wait a minute now. I'm not finished. You let Mayor Kapell stand for forty five minutes. The problem with you..You don't want to listen to anybody else. That's all I have to say. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Mayor Kapell is an elected official in this town. FRANK CARLIN: He ain't no different than I. I'm a taxpayer. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Does any member of the Board wish to address the rest of the Board, or the audience? COUNCILWOMAN HUSSlE: I would just like to say one thing to Mr. Carl|n. Apropos, the Deputy Supervisor, the Deputy Supervisor, Town Law says acts in the absence of the Supervisor to sign checks, and to chair meetings. I have to agree that the Deputy Supervisor should not be paid anything more than the position with the $2,300 that goes with it. It's the same as the Chairman of one of the other Boards, whether it's the Trustees or whatever. It's not a full time job. FRANK CARLIN: She's a Councilperson, and that's it. She's not entitled to no SLt, 000 than anybody else. You can't talk to Frank Carlln, cause I don't buy it so easy. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Do I hear a motion for adjourning? 43'9 OCT~ ..~-_ .... FRANK CARLIN: No, this man wants to say something. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: We offered the opportunity a few minutes ago. There was no one at that time. Do you wish to address the Board? Can you keep it within five minutes, please? JIM HICKEY: Real short. Jim Hickey, Mattltuck, with the YMCA. Have you conferred with the Police Chief on that, the location? SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: I don't know that I have. JIM HICKEY: You probably didn't. Based on almost thirty years of personal knowledge, and investigations, let me tell you what's going to happen in that heavily wooded area adjacent to an area where you're going to have two or three hundred little boys. You're going to get the pedophiles, the exhibitionist, and the deviate. Before you do anything just 1¼ink of why they passed Megan's Law in Jersey. Thank you. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Joe? COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND; Many of our schools are located in just such areas. To this date, we haven't had a huge problem. I mean, I'm sure that our Police Department, if they had a concern, would have addressed the Supervisor on this. JIM HICKEY: Check with other departments, you'll find rapes on bicycle paths, bridle paths, and pedestrian paths. SUPERVISOR WICKHAM: Do I hear a motion to adjourn? Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Justice Evans, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board meeting be and hereby is adjourned at 9:05 P.M. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Justice Evans, Councilman Townsend, Councilwoman Hussie, Councilman Lizewski, Supervisor Wickham. This resolution was duly ADOPTED. ~/' Judith T. Terry Southold Town Clerk