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1 TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK: STATE OF NEW YORK
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TOWN BOARD
4 REGULAR BOARD MEETING
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Southold , New York
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July 18 , 2023
9 4 : 30 P .M.
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15 B E F 0 R E :
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17 SCOTT A. RUSSELL, SUPERVISOR
18 LOUISA P . EVANS , JUSTICE
19 JILL DOHERTY , COUNCILWOMAN
20 BRIAN 0 . MEALY, COUNCILMAN
21 GREG DOROSKI , COUNCILMAN
22 SARAH E . NAPPA, COUNCILWOMAN
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JULY 18 , 2023 REGULAR MEETING 2
1 PUBLIC COMMENTS
2 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I ' m going
3 to invite anybody that would like to
4 address the Town Board on any issue , to
5 please feel free? Adam?
6 ADAM IRVING : Hey . Thank you . My
7 name is Adam Irving, and I ' m coming sort
8 of with two hats today . One is , I do
9 Orient/East Marion and Park District
10 Commissioner . So that ' s one of the
11 things I do . I live in Orient . And we
12 have had a lot of problems this Summer
13 with overnight beach issues , if you
14 will . Scott was in a meeting with us
15 and representatives from the DEC a few
16 weeks ago , and I think -- I think a
17 little bit of progress was made there ,
18 but there was a recent overnight fire
19 that just kind of set all of us off . So
20 it was , I guess two weekends ago, our
21 beach manager came to open the beach
22 about 8 : 30 in the morning . And there
23 had been a significant , you know, sort
24 of like football game bonfire type thing
25 that had been done on Orient East Marion
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1 Park District Property . You know
2 effectively, right alongside the
3 causeway and it had gone on -- we have
4 -- we have cameras on our shed and the
5 fire had gone on from the better part of
6 like 1 : 00 A. M. until about 6 : 00 or 7 : 00
7 A.M. And obviously that in and of
8 itself is a problem. But for our
9 beach-goers had the attendants not
10 gotten there and flagged it , I mean it
11 puts people dogs , etcetera at major
12 risk. Like very, very hot rocks . I
13 mean they were pouring buckets and
14 buckets of water . And then shoveling
15 the hot rocks . Taking them out to the
16 Sound . Chucking them into there . So I
17 just wanted to kind of followup on the
18 meeting we had a couple weeks ago . And
19 the second hat I ' m wearing is , I live
20 immediately to the east of Truman ' s
21 Beach . So personally , this is something
22 I ' ve been dealing with on and off for 10
23 years and you know, it ' s like , we ' ll
24 call the police . Me and my neighbors
25 will kind of call the police when we see
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1 bad actions . You know, we might get it
2 tamped down for a bit . And then usually
3 like , you know, several weekends later
4 it starts to rear its head again . I
5 would say this year from what I
6 understand with other park districts , as
7 well as , what we ' re seeing around
8 Truman ' s , sort of the brazen factor, if
9 you will , has gone up considerably .
10 Also the volume of people that are kind
11 of acting badly , if you will , has also
12 gone up considerably . The DEC at this
13 point is , they own the boat launch ramp
14 immediately to the west of Truman ' s .
15 And they are -- they have two
16 enforcement officers for the entire
17 east-end . So South Fork, North Fork,
18 Shelter . The one that covers the North
19 Fork primarily is a good guy . And he
20 helps us out as best he can , but when
21 there ' s two guys covering all that land,
22 there ' s just -- there ' s only so much
23 they can do . So we ' re -- we ' re keeping
24 in the loop with him, but where I would
25 like to pick up from the meeting we had
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1 a couple weeks ago is , is on how the
2 Park Districts can work with the Town .
3 I know at the meeting , Scott , you said a
4 couple times . You know, really Chief
5 Flatley should be here . He could really
6 help out a lot . And what I was going to
7 ask is , would it be possible to have
8 kind of like an all Park Districts
9 meeting perhaps with Chief Flatley and
10 the two constables? It would -- it
11 would really help in terms of I think
12 figuring out Best Practices , how to work
13 on the issue . Because to date , we -- a
14 lot of times when we do have to call the
15 police , and it ' s not something we want
16 to do . Like all of us are like nervous
17 when we do call the police , but it ' s
18 usually something where it ' s gotten
19 pretty bad . And it ' s like , okay, we
20 need help . But a lot of times we get
21 mixed messages as to what we should be ,
22 you know, where we can kind of ask for
23 enforcement versus where we can ' t . And
24 I mean , it ' s everything from like , you
25 know, I know the Town has no camping
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1 code . But what does that mean? Is that
2 like a sleeping bag? Is it a tent?
3 Like we found a guy last weekend who had
4 just brought literally like a long --
5 almost like something you ' d put on a
6 beach lounger and he was just splayed
7 out on that . And it ' s like , is that
8 camping? Is that not camping? Is it
9 just merely being there? You know from
10 like 11 : 00 P .M. till 6 : 00 A.M. I mean ,
11 things like that would really kind of
12 help us . But I think, you know a
13 meeting like that could I think be very
14 time effective and just kind of help
15 with this issue , which has clearly
16 gotten a lot worse . And the second
17 thing is , is really to the extent that
18 there can be proactive policing
19 overnight . I mean , I know nobody wants
20 to do that job, but I feel like I would
21 say two-thirds of the problems are
22 happening with the cast of characters
23 that shows up kind of at two in the
24 morning . Grabs a bunch of driftwood .
25 Douses it with Ronsonol . Lights a fire .
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1 Gets boozed up, and just kind of away
2 the party goes . That ' s our biggest
3 problem. I mean, most of the stuff in
4 the daytime we can kind of manage , but
5 the overnight stuff , it ' s terrible for
6 the Park District . And I can I can
7 definitely say the abutting neighbors
8 around Stevenson Road , Birdseye Road, I
9 mean, it ' s -- everybody ' s kind of ready
10 to pull their hair out . And it ' s been
11 -- it ' s been kind of up and down for at
12 least the 10 years . I ' ve been out . So
13 anyway , just wanted to put that out
14 there . Obviously, any questions --
15 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Let me
16 just -- a couple of things first . The
17 meeting, I actually didn ' t organize it
18 at that day . After we were underway, it
19 was clear that it was probably something
20 that law enforcement , Chief Flatley or
21 representative should have been there
22 for , as well , Beach Management . The
23 abuse of the beaches is -- I actually
24 just spoke last week in a local
25 community group . Told them that was one
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1 of my more frustrating unresolved issues
2 in my years here , and along with many
3 others . But that was certainly right
4 now, every year you wait till the Summer
5 to come and you cringe . Because you
6 know what ' s going to happen . And the
7 difficulty we have because people do
8 move . And what happens is , and when you
9 remove them, they ' ll show up somewhere
10 else or the walk where the sand is wet .
11 And then you sort of get into all these
12 constitutional issues . It ' s a big
13 challenge . It ' s one that guy we have to
14 definitely get our hands around . I
15 would welcome a meeting with the Park ' s
16 Districts , and the Town . I ' m sure some
17 of the Board members here would love to
18 participate .
19 COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : Perhaps
20 the Trustees as well .
21 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Yeah,
22 Trustees . We can, you know, we ' ll have
23 Chief there . We can have others there .
24 There ' s just a couple things first , the
25 Town ' s "no camping" wouldn ' t apply to
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1 you . Your Park District . You get to
2 create your own rules . So those are
3 some -- at least that meeting could
4 clarify what each of our roles are .
5 Essentially, if they ' re on your beach as
6 a Park District , and you want them
7 removed, we can ' t just go do that unless
8 you ask us to . It ' s trespassing .
9 ADAM IRVING : Right , right . I
10 think -- I think the frustration on that
11 is just , you know, it ' s like yes , we
12 have our Park District . What a lot of
13 these guys do is , they park at the DEC
14 lot and they fan out , you know, an
15 eighth through a quarter of a mile in
16 either direction . I mean Truman ' s Beach
17 actually has covenants and restrictions
18 that specifically spell out no camping .
19 But then it ' s like someone has to be up
20 at two in the morning to kind of , all
21 right , do I get on the phone? Do I wait
22 for the police? I let them down my
23 beach trail?
24 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I agree ,
25 but it ' s essentially private property .
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1 So we can ' t go in there without you
2 asking us or a representative of the
3 District asking us to .
4 ADAM IRVING : Right . But what
5 we ' ve seen is , that most of the camping
6 now, they ' ll fan out to the west of the
7 DEC lot or they ' ll go -- they ' ll go even
8 to the east of Truman ' s because at that
9 point . They ' re out of sight lines .
10 It ' s from the causeway . So then that
11 becomes something where a Southold
12 Police can --
13 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I agree .
14 Again, private property . The people
15 would have to instruct us that they want
16 those people removed from their private
17 property .
18 ADAM IRVING : Just do like a
19 standing instruction .
20 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I
21 actually just got a memo from the
22 Commissioner of Suffolk County Parks
23 complaining about the abuse of the bit
24 ( sic ) in Southold . I mean, we -- the
25 constables have been issuing tickets for
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1 the overnight fishing people taking
2 Porgies that are all about four inches
3 long, and every other things that are
4 going on . So we try, but I tell you
5 they move . Robert will tell you . He ' s
6 got some experience with beach use
7 around here . They will move .
8 COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : You may
9 already have shared the footage that
10 you ' ve accumulated , but if you haven ' t ,
11 perhaps sharing it with Chief Flatley to
12 make sure he has evidence to what you ' re
13 referring to?
14 ADAM IRVING : Yeah . Yeah, we can .
15 To the extent -- I think we have eight
16 days . I ' ll have to see at that one . So
17 we don ' t have a ton of storage on our
18 shed . But we can sit -- every weekend
19 we get something new.
20 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Right .
21 ADAM IRVING : So a lot of times
22 we ' ll literally just hold our phone up
23 to a little monitor that we ' ve got , and
24 you know, it ' ll suffice . Thank you .
25 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Okay .
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1 Thanks . We ' ll set something up . Call
2 Lauren or Michelle . We ' ll set something
3 up for the commissioners . We ' ll get
4 together . I ' ll talk to the Board .
5 We ' ll have something -- a meeting . I
6 can ' t tell you we ' ll have -- we ' ll have
7 probably more than three Board members
8 there , which means it ' ll be noticed, as
9 a public meeting . I can ' t tell you
10 we ' re gonna have a lot of people that
11 are gonna show up to sit in the audience
12 to hear that conversation . Because
13 there ' s a lot of private property owners
14 that are impacted as well . So yeah,
15 we ' ll get that going soon .
16 ADAM IRVING : Thank you .
17 COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : Thank you
18 for reporting it .
19 MS . MISSY : Chris , you have
20 permission to speak.
21 CHRIS : It ' s Chris ( inaudible )
22 calling . Not wearing any hats . That ' s
23 going everybody , I ' m not wearing any
24 hats . Following on to today . Following
25 on to Adam. And I just want to voice as
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1 a private citizen, the situation at
2 Breakwater . Again , just continues to
3 spin out of control . This Sunday
4 morning, I went down early . And the
5 litter from the Park District gate to
6 the Southold Town barrel , was -- it was
7 literally disgusting . I never really
8 have seen it that bad . I mean , I know
9 DPW only comes on Monday , but the Monday
10 and Friday, but the barrel -- I mean the
11 barrels -- and you know, Saturday wasn ' t
12 the greatest weather day . And it was
13 packed . It was overflowing . Now some
14 of the garbage may not have actually
15 been littered . I mean sometimes I have
16 seen unfortunately , wildlife fly over
17 and grab stuff and leave it on the
18 ground . But it ' s literally right where
19 it says , you know, Mattituck Inlet Park
20 Town of Southold . And something has to
21 be done by the Town . I mean, I know you
22 don ' t want to close public parks , but if
23 -- if you ' re unable to keep up -- keep
24 them up and have them free of litter,
25 I ' m not really sure what the answer is .
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1 Because obviously there ' s a lot of
2 passive trails in Southold . And they
3 just don ' t see this volume of traffic .
4 You know, pedestrian traffic . Parked
5 vehicles and also again the garbage .
6 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : All
7 right . Well , I know you were part of
8 the meeting that we had a couple weeks
9 ago . We ' ll make sure that you ' re part
10 of the meeting coming up in the near
11 future .
12 CHRIS : Okay . Thank you very much
13 everyone . Have a great evening .
14 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Who else
15 would like to address the Town Board on
16 any particular issue?
17 KERRI FREND : Hi . I am Kerri
18 Frend . Most of you know me . I am not
19 here to battle at all . I never was .
20 But as for the Comprehensive Plan that
21 was completed on February 20th , your
22 vision statement in this second sentence
23 of the first paragraph, our citizens
24 cherish Southold small town quality of
25 life and wish to preserve what we
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1 currently value while planning on a
2 productive and viable future . We have
3 quality of life here . I ' m gonna go
4 back, way back, to 2014 . Back on 2014 ,
5 and I guess that ' s when everyone
6 launched . Something to go against the
7 helicopters and planes flying overhead
8 because they were a nuisance . And there
9 were a lot of complaints . And on August
10 4th , there was a media advisory where
11 you had many people coming in, such as
12 the Director of Long Island District
13 Office for Senator Charles Schumer . We
14 had people representing Director of
15 Senator Kirsten Gillebrand . We had a
16 lot of people . Tim Bishops Office was
17 here . And the main reason for that , is
18 I quote "the prevalence of helicopters
19 and the associated noise has diminished
20 the quality of life from many North Fork
21 residents . " This got a lot -- a lot of
22 public attention . You brought in
23 officials to diminish a problem that was
24 being caused by the South Fork . Not
25 being caused here by the North Fork. I
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1 go to here , and Mr . Uslano ( phonetic ) ,
2 we ' ve discussed this a few times , where
3 you proposed a winery -- winery
4 moratorium for -- to stop the building
5 up until we had everything in play .
6 Because you wanted to revamp the code
7 and change and lessen the negative
8 impacts of increased traffic . That
9 didn ' t mean to bring me down from
10 ( inaudible ) Boulevard , but it stated
11 here , "concerns over the quality of
12 life , traffic and police enforcement
13 should be acknowledged . " So right here ,
14 it says "quality of life . We need
15 police enforcement for the wineries that
16 are being built . " And I believe that
17 two more breweries are going to be
18 coming out here . Something like that .
19 I heard rumor . I ' m not too sure . Then
20 on November 18 , 2020 , a letter from you
21 to the Town of East Hampton , stating
22 after 12 years of Southold Town
23 residents of filing noise complaints .
24 Further along, Southold Town does not
25 want its residents quality of life and
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1 right to peaceful enjoyment of their
2 homes to be negatively impacted by the
3 KHTO Bound Helicopter sea planes and
4 jets anymore . Completely abate noise
5 for Southold Town residents that would
6 welcome , you know, continued resident
7 noise complaints . Then it further goes
8 on that you wanted a quieter and more
9 environmentally sustainable future .
10 This got a lot of attention . A lot of
11 work was done on this to work with the
12 South Fork to -- for the planes going
13 overhead . I understand . It ' s not
14 continuous . It ' s not what we ' re dealing
15 with on the boulevard and all the
16 adjoining streets . North Fork Civic
17 properties survey that went out in June
18 or July of ' 22 . I guess we all voted
19 something was sent out in October of
20 2022 . I took the result from just the
21 Mattituck and Laurel data . Rate the
22 importance of the local characteristics
23 of your Hamlet . Number 1 , quality of
24 life as essential . Number 2 , natural
25 beauty . Then neighborhood safety . Then
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1 rural character . Rate your level of
2 concern about these issues -- issues in
3 your Hamlet? One is over development .
4 Two is traffic . Then a few down is
5 pedestrian and bicycle safety .
6 Importance of what you think Southold
7 Town government should focus on . Number
8 2 on there is preservation of rural
9 character . And then a few down from
10 there listed as very important --
11 essential , I ' m sorry . And then very
12 important . Introduce traffic calming
13 measures . So it continues to go on .
14 Stating that quality of life , natural
15 beauty , neighborhood safety , rural
16 character , traffic tend to be what
17 people are interested in , in our
18 hamlets . Back in September of 2016 ,
19 there was a beautiful article out there .
20 Five North Fork roads for great Sunday
21 drives . Peconic Bay Boulevard was on
22 one of them. Used to be beautiful .
23 Still is , but still . Then you mentioned
24 how Peconic Bay Boulevard does get
25 backed up , surge and Fall traffic . It
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1 was in the North Fork Patch . Thank you
2 for acknowledging that . And I just sent
3 you the other day a survey that was put
4 together by some residents . I believe
5 maybe you got it?
6 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Yes .
7 KERRI FREND : Okay . I was asked, a
8 lot of people that reside on Peconic Bay
9 Boulevard , Bray , Marlene , Sigsbee , they
10 are all at work . Fortunately, I get off
11 early enough . I am somebody that works
12 a full-time job and two part-time jobs .
13 When I come home , I would love to relax
14 in my home . I can ' t . The road noise is
15 insane . The faster people drive , the
16 louder it is . The more traffic that
17 there is , the louder it is . There ' s no
18 calm place for me to relax in my own
19 home . And that ' s really what a lot of
20 people are feeling . My neighbors are
21 here . They ' ve had to jump off the
22 roads . Right . A lot of animals do not
23 make it . You wake up to dead animals
24 all over the road . And I don ' t want
25 that . My neighbors right here . They
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1 walk their adorable dog, and I fear for
2 them every single day . So I did a quick
3 survey out of people that live on
4 Peconic Bay, Bray, Marlene and Sigsbee ,
5 out of the forty-eight , and there were
6 forty-six homes that were surveyed, I
7 would love to be able to get in touch
8 with everybody else , but I don ' t have
9 the time to get everybody on these
10 roads . I can ' t go door to door .
11 Forty-seven out of the forty-eight
12 surveyed lived or live on these roads .
13 Do they walk, run, bike whatever?
14 Forty-four, yes . Four, no . If you
15 walk, run or -- on these roads , do you
16 have concern for your safety?
17 Thirty-eight , yes . All the time . Three
18 only during rush hour . Three only
19 during tourist season . Not one of them
20 said that it ' s perfectly safe . And then
21 four people said that they do not walk
22 the roads because it is way too
23 dangerous . Out of the forty-eight have
24 you observed vehicles traveling at
25 dangerous speeds? Forty-two say, yes ,
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1 all the time . Six say, yes , sometimes .
2 There was nobody that said no . They
3 don ' t -- they don ' t witness it . Have
4 you observed drivers that are
5 distracted? Five , yes . No , there were
6 three . Were you aware that there were
7 incidents of vehicles veering off the
8 road and doing damage within a few
9 months span? Twenty-seven, yes .
10 Twenty-one , no . Have you noticed a deep
11 cruise in speeds at which people travel
12 by the radar signs , and choose all that
13 apply? Twenty people said, no . The
14 people continue to speed regardless of
15 what the signs said . Nineteen people
16 said most people slow down for the sign
17 and then they speed up excessively .
18 Fifteen people say some people slow
19 down, but they just speed up a little .
20 Two people said the signs only work for
21 the tourists . Zero said a majority of
22 the people obey the limit , and two
23 people say the speed signs are
24 effective . Do you feel that the posted
25 metal signs are effective -- I ' m sorry .
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1 Do you feel that the posted metal signs
2 are effective? Forty-six, no . I ' m
3 sorry . Forty-six, yes . And two, no .
4 My bad , I read it backwards . Do you
5 feel that a traffic -- a tragic accident
6 is inevitable? Forty-seven people said,
7 yes . One said, no . Do you believe that
8 Peconic Bay, Marlene , Sigsbee Bay can
9 handle the tourist traffic? Forty-two,
10 absolutely not . Four people that said,
11 yes , without a doubt . No one . Six
12 people said maybe if they drive at a
13 speed below 30 miles an hour . Is your
14 home life impacted by road noise?
15 Twenty-four, yes . Inside and out .
16 Twenty , yes . But only when we ' re out in
17 our yards . And four said it does not
18 affect us . what is your opinion on the
19 large groups of motorcycles? Twenty
20 people completely disrespectful and
21 disrupts the lives of our residents .
22 Twenty-six somewhat disrupts the lives
23 of our residents . Two people say they
24 do not have impacts on the homeowners .
25 Do you believe that heavy speeding
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1 traffic has diminished the quality of
2 life for the residents on these roads .
3 Forty-seven said, yes . One said, no .
4 Do you feel that the -- that posting --
5 speeding vehicles -- I ' m sorry . I ' m not
6 wearing my contacts . Do you feel that
7 speeding vehicles and excessive traffic
8 lowers your home values? Thirty-one
9 people said, yes . Four people said, no .
10 And thirteen people said , maybe . Do you
11 witness large party buses using our
12 roads to avoid traffic despite the
13 multiple signs stating that there is a
14 four-ton limit? Forty, yes . Eight , no .
15 Have you ever followed a vehicle over
16 the for-ton limit that has no business
17 on Peconic Bay Boulevard? Twenty-five ,
18 yes . Twenty-three , no . Do you believe
19 that Town officials have taken our
20 complaints seriously? One , yes .
21 Thirty-three , no . Fourteen , not sure .
22 Are you aware that the South Fork places
23 speed humps in residential areas when
24 speeding occurs? Twenty-five , yes .
25 Twenty-three , no . Are you aware that
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1 the South Fork prohibits thru commercial
2 traffic during certain times of the day
3 on some residential roads where
4 homeowners are impacted? Twenty two,
5 yes . Twenty-six, no . Are you aware
6 that there are 25 mile an hour speed
7 limits on residential roads on the South
8 Fork and they are strictly enforced?
9 Twenty-six, yes . Twenty-two, no . Do
10 you feel ignored by the Town officials
11 despite almost four years of complaints
12 because our roads help alleviate traffic
13 on Main Road? Thirty-seven , yes . Zero,
14 no . And eleven , maybe . Do you feel
15 that Town officials place tourists above
16 residents? Thirty-three , yes . Three ,
17 no . Twelve , maybe . Do you believe that
18 we need to attend more Town meetings?
19 Thirty-seven , yes . It may help .
20 Eleven , no . It ' s a waste of time . Do
21 you believe our county legislatures
22 should be contacted to get assistance?
23 Forty-four, yes . Four, no . Some of the
24 comments that were written on this , we
25 need enforcement on a continuum. I
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1 would like to see speed cameras with
2 hefty fines , as well as , hefty fines for
3 those over the four-ton limits . Hit-em
4 where it hurts . In the pocket , I guess
5 that means . We should definitely be a
6 road that has a reputation . Another,
7 always scared to run on the road .
8 People do not slow down or move over .
9 We need a comprehensive traffic plan .
10 The traffic light on Main Road at
11 Sigsbee is a nightmare causing backup
12 and drivers to turn down Bay and Marlene
13 to avoid the light . Should be a
14 blinking yellow or programmed to be
15 green or longer most of the day for a
16 better traffic flow. Lack of police
17 presence is ruining our way of life , and
18 I ' m sick of it . Noise . The Town needs
19 to hire more police officers or at least
20 well-trained traffic control officers
21 with the ability to ticket offenders .
22 It ' s unbelievable the amount of traffic
23 that exceeds the 30 mile an hour limit .
24 And that is multiplied by high amounts
25 of excessive traffic every weekend . To
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1 stand in my front yard is like being on
2 a racetrack. I have been chased down on
3 Peconic Bay Boulevard many times because
4 I ' m going the speed limit . Peconic Bay
5 Boulevard is certainly a forgotten
6 roadway as far as policing . With the
7 amount of taxes we are all paying , I
8 believe an increase in the Southold
9 police is definitely an emergency
10 requirement . Much of the speeding is by
11 locals . If the police issue tickets , it
12 may not -- it may have a major impact .
13 The packs of motorcycles , usually 10 to
14 12 in a row with blasting their radios
15 and revving their engines , is --
16 produces painful noise , which is above
17 the acceptable legal levels . Peconic
18 Bay Boulevard is in all reality, not a
19 boulevard . It is a country lane with no
20 sidewalks that have been overrun by
21 people on their way to the vineyards .
22 The name and designation of the road
23 should be changed to truly reflect its
24 nature . There should be seasonal
25 decreases in the speed limit to 20 miles
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1 an hour, to ensure that the safety of
2 people who live here and pay taxes .
3 While no sobriety checks are in the
4 afternoon , it is obvious that people
5 have been drinking all day . All of you
6 ever -- all you ever hear is that there
7 are shortened police , police personnel .
8 The politicians and law enforcement are
9 failing us . Another one , traffic
10 negatively affects our clean air and
11 water . I ' ve pulled over to hothead to
12 let hotheads pass . I am militant about
13 driving 30 miles an hour . Usually young
14 20-something male drivers in a pickup
15 truck, not a tourist . FedEx, UPS ,
16 Amazon trucks drive well beyond the
17 limits . We need cameras to stop
18 offenders . Then people will take it
19 seriously . Maybe adding speed bumps .
20 Last year , a distracted driver plowed
21 through my mailbox and hedges . Backed
22 up and peeled out . Neighbors heard it .
23 I was not home . Leaving the mailbox in
24 shambles and drawing -- destroying the
25 hedges . This person lives on Bray and
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1 Alba . Our kids play on this road and
2 want to enjoy the playground and
3 beaches . It ' s impossible to walk or
4 have our children play on the road after
5 spending millions of dollars on our
6 homes . Most drivers are traveling over
7 45 miles an hour . I watch all the
8 speeds of the cars being recorded .
9 Every morning a handful of dead animals
10 are on the road . The only reason why we
11 are not run down is because we have the
12 ability to throw ourselves into the
13 brush to avoid getting hit daily . Why
14 are we waiting to get seriously injured
15 or killed? We all need to get this
16 together and do something . There are
17 quite a few more , and I ' m sure that
18 you ' ve read them. Unfortunately, a lot
19 of people are working . They couldn ' t
20 attend . A few people showed up on Zoom,
21 but I told them not to do it while they
22 were driving . They were going to go on
23 Zoom while driving . I didn ' t recommend
24 that . But I truly understand where you
25 are , and I know we have a shortness of
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1 police , but --
2 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Let me
3 tell you right now, just at the timing
4 is not good for you, I will have a
5 meeting here . I will host it with
6 anybody and everybody from Peconic Bay
7 Boulevard that would like to come to the
8 meeting . I will be -- I ' ll sit in this
9 chair and I ' ll listen to every single
10 comment you have to make , every
11 complaint . I ' ll listen every -- every
12 bit of it , but then I ' m going to give
13 you explanations . Whether you like them
14 or not , I do not know, but you need to
15 understand that your measure and level
16 of frustration is no different than our
17 measure of frustration . All right .
18 When people say we ' re ignoring them,
19 it ' s simply not true . I know it might
20 feel that way, but everything you ' ve
21 just outlined is a problem on every
22 single road in all of Southold Town .
23 Peconic Bay Boulevard is not unique .
24 You think it is , but it ' s not . And I
25 grew up out here . Trust me , the traffic
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1 there is following the trends through
2 what -- just like all the other larger
3 roads in the town .
4 KERRI FREND : I agree with you and
5 I mean , I do . And I have to say -- and
6 you know, these are not all my words .
7 People and I am trying desperately to
8 help instead of you getting flooded with
9 e-mails . They e-mail me . I compile it .
10 I send it to you . We are different .
11 Because we are the bypass . New Suffolk.
12 I have driven it , it is dangerous . I
13 have driven on Peqoush . It is
14 dangerous . I have driven all of those
15 roads . I believe me . I ' ve lived out
16 here for many years . I understand they
17 all travel those speeds , but they are
18 not the bypass . I have pictures of ways
19 our road is flooded with ways .
20 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I get
21 that , but there ' s only two real issues
22 that we can address . Number one is the
23 enforcement of the four-ton limits . And
24 Number Two is the speeding . Now, if you
25 have speeding and you have gridlock,
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1 those two are -- you can ' t have all at
2 the same time . Because they contradict
3 each other . So I don ' t know what we can
4 do about gridlock. We did try to reduce
5 some of the volume by lowering this
6 though , the weight , the tonnage . We ' re
7 trying . If it needs better enforcement ,
8 where -- we ' re going to focus on that .
9 We ' re going to focus on the speeding .
10 But motorcycles and all those other
11 things , it is a public road . You cannot
12 make them go away .
13 KERRI FREND : Ordinance --
14 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Trust
15 me , we tried that . And guess what in
16 fact , we go back to 2008 . We did
17 exactly that . Not only did we do a --
18 try to extend the noise ordinance to
19 motorcycles , we actually did a -- we did
20 several motorcycle stops . You know, the
21 police stops . Whatever they ' re called .
22 To stop them, to make sure they were
23 complying with State exhaust muffler
24 law. And we ' re not allowed to impose
25 the noise code , because we ' re preempted
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1 by New York State Law. New York State
2 regulates motorcycles . We do not .
3 Therefore by law, we ' re not allowed to
4 regulate them. We ' ve tried all those
5 things . There ' s nothing new that you
6 just raised that hasn ' t been an issue
7 for us , and hasn ' t been a challenge for
8 us . I hear you . I understand
9 everything you ' re saying . But trust me .
10 Some of the other issues , speed humps
11 things like that , I know Councilwoman
12 Nappa is working with Superintendent
13 Gillebrand and others to try to
14 implement solutions like that or
15 implement at least pilots to see if they
16 work or not . So it ' s there ' s not --
17 there ' s not a lack of attention --
18 KERRI FREND : Said it ' s okay .
19 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I ' ve
20 been down there three times . I sat
21 there . Last year you ' d wanted to bring
22 me cider, I was there -- I was there
23 again on Delmar not that long ago . And
24 then just a few weeks after that . We
25 had a heightened enforcement were under
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1 Captain Genus , and he did surveying at
2 the time . And his -- the calculation on
3 median speed wasn ' t what -- and then
4 when I said well , look it was below the
5 speed limit . People say , well , you know
6 numbers can be played with or there ' s
7 always a response . It ' s never just
8 simply saying, you know what , if the
9 issues are volume and quality of life ,
10 we probably can ' t do a lot about that .
11 If the issues are about speeding or
12 about enforcement of the weight limits
13 we can , and we should . But volumes ,
14 motorcycles . All those things that were
15 inconvenienced to all of us , I hate to
16 say it , that ' s the nature of Southold
17 now. I don ' t like it any more than you
18 do . I wish it wasn ' t .
19 KERRI FREND : No . No --
20 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : The
21 police force have been giving tickets
22 out . I don ' t know, Paul , maybe you can
23 clarify if you -- I know it ' s not your
24 department , but you ' re in the court .
25 That most of the tickets that were given
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1 out were the people that lived on
2 Peconic Bay Boulevard speeding .
3 KERRI FREND : Oh, yeah . I know.
4 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : And so
5 they are down there every Saturday now.
6 He makes sure he puts people down there .
7 KERRI FREND : We have seen them. I
8 mean, a lot of the times , I ' m not home .
9 And I ' ll just -- I ' ll get a text , the
10 police are here . They ' re pulling people
11 over . I understand that . As for -- I
12 felt like so weird . I did pull over in
13 front of the radar sign of last -- I
14 believe it was last week sometime . I
15 have a video of it . I sat there for a
16 middle -- a total of six minutes . And
17 the only reason that some people may
18 have slowed down a little bit was
19 because my car was sticking out in the
20 road, and they had to go around . I have
21 video of people 40 miles an hour, not
22 even tapping the brakes and going .
23 38/40 . The other day I had a
24 conversation with two people that I
25 presently work with, and we were joking
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1 around about it . They were like , "hey,
2 where are your signs? " I ' m like , not my
3 signs . Everybody signs . And they said,
4 like , you want people to slow down . I ' m
5 like , absolutely . And they one person
6 said not a chance in hell . And and I ' m
7 friends with this person . And the other
8 person said, all right , we ' ll keep it
9 just under 40 . That ' s safe enough . I
10 mean, our -- if this is a problem with
11 New York State and you say that New York
12 State is not going to allow, I believe
13 that this is an emergency . We have the
14 buses going . And we know that the one
15 bus accident is looking at his phone .
16 We see that . We see the limo drivers .
17 I ' ve watched limo drivers holding their
18 phone up talking to the people behind
19 them. Straddling --
20 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I can
21 understand that , but that wouldn ' t be
22 epidemic , just the Peconic Bay
23 Boulevard . That ' s not a Peconic Bay
24 Boulevard issue . It ' s a town wide
25 issue . I get that , I understand --
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1 KERRI FREND : Bring them in . Bring
2 them in . Say we are overrun . We are
3 not the South Fork . We ' re a lot smaller
4 and get the ticketing cameras .
5 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I would
6 agree 100% with those . I would love
7 those . Unfortunately , New York State
8 has only allowed a very small pilot
9 program, that ' s a New York City near
10 specific schools . I would love the idea
11 that New York State would allow us to
12 expand it and do almost identical to the
13 Red Light Camera Program. I wish the
14 State would . By all means , and if you
15 can help us lobby the State to get that
16 through, I think you ' d find a lot of
17 support within town government . But New
18 York State needs to be able to -- we
19 need to be -- we can ' t do it . New York
20 State holds that authority . We would
21 love to be able to do the remote
22 ticketing . We ' re just not allowed to by
23 law. Only New York City is again . And
24 that ' s only in a few small areas where
25 schools are .
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1 KERRI FREND : Okay . So when it was
2 for the planes and the helicopters , and
3 the noises that people were hearing .
4 And people were complaining about that ,
5 and it -- because it was being
6 controlled by the South Fork
7 Southampton, I believe it is or East
8 Hampton . It ' s East Hampton . Everybody
9 was brought in .
10 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL :
11 Actually, that was -- it became a
12 problem for all five towns . Not just
13 Southold and Riverhead . Although at the
14 time I said we were a doormat for the
15 Hamptons . And the problem with doormats
16 is that they ' re meant to be walked on .
17 And we didn ' t want to be walked on . But
18 we did have the cooperation . East
19 Hampton and we had representatives that
20 were here because all five towns were
21 impacted . There ' s a lot of -- it was a
22 much more complicated issue . But the
23 sheer volume -- it had nothing to do
24 with volume of helicopters . It had to
25 do with changing flight paths by one
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1 senator who was a demagogue , who was
2 responding to complaints from the west .
3 That ' s how that happened . It wasn ' t
4 just initial volume . Look, I didn ' t go
5 the tourism route . In the early 90 ' s ,
6 Southold decided to put all of its eggs
7 in his tourism basket . Good or bad . I
8 don ' t -- I ' m not going to argue the
9 merits of that . But I ' m -- what I am
10 going to say , success does have
11 consequences . And a lot of that traffic
12 is being driven by people that are
13 coming out . Whether it ' s for a couple
14 of days or whether it ' s for a couple of
15 weeks . But again, at the same time ,
16 once you get off of Peconic Bay and you
17 go on the other roads , and all those
18 open fields , and all those farms and
19 everything . That money coming out , that
20 day is saving those . So it ' s all sort
21 of interrelated here . There ' s good and
22 bad to everything . That ' s the nature of
23 it . I know you don ' t want to hear that ,
24 but --
25 KERRI FREND : No, it ' s not .
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1 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : And it ' s
2 funny because I get accused of being
3 anti-tourism all the time . I ' m not . I
4 just recognize there ' s a balance .
5 KERRI FREND : No . I ' m all --
6 believe me , I ' m business . And I
7 understand that tourism is good for the
8 economy out here . I understand, but as
9 for the people that live out here --
10 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I agree
11 100% .
12 KERRI FREND : And the people that
13 their lives are being put at risk . If
14 that ' s not an emergency, I don ' t know
15 what is .
16 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I agree .
17 And you know what we ' ll do, we ' ll set up
18 a meeting with State representatives to
19 try to get New York State to push
20 forward and allow towns the authority to
21 put in a remote ticketing system. Be
22 happy to . I would be happy to . I could
23 tell you this is -- this is a specific
24 attorney from Westchester County . He ' s
25 going to be here probably five minutes
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1 later to fight it , but certainly at the
2 same time , if the New York State would
3 give us the authority , I would do it in
4 a minute . But we need -- we will take
5 your help , and will lobby . We ' ll get
6 the State representatives here and see
7 what we can do .
8 KERRI FREND : I am all for that .
9 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Big step
10 forward .
11 KERRI FREND : I mean our police
12 department is spread thin . I mean, as
13 we can hear . But they have to deal with
14 the beaches . They have to deal with --
15 believe me . I know that there was a
16 tragedy just right by Cutchogue East
17 Elementary today . They ' re all over the
18 place . They ' re dealing with a lot . We
19 don ' t have the enforcement . So if we
20 could get the speed cushions or the
21 speed humps , if we get the ticketing
22 cameras and I know that the fire
23 department already said that the speed
24 cushions -- they said it ' s okay . They
25 can straddle it . We would welcome that .
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1 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I think
2 there might be more pushback there , but
3 that ' s a conversation for us to have
4 with them.
5 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: Dan
6 Goodwin and I have been working on that .
7 KERRI FREND : He ' s good people .
8 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: He had a
9 meeting with the fire departments . And
10 I ' ll circle back with him and see where
11 we are with it at that -- at this point .
12 But we have been -- that has been
13 something we ' re working on . I mean, one
14 thing I just want to say too, and you
15 know, you use the helicopter and
16 airplane noise as an example . Just , you
17 know, we still suffer from that . You
18 know, we there -- there has been a lot
19 in the way of reducing that . But we
20 still we have planes flying overhead all
21 the time . We still have helicopters
22 continuous --
23 KERRI FREND : And it ' s not putting
24 lives at risk.
25 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: No, I
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1 understand . But I ' m just saying, you
2 used it as an example of getting people
3 to try to put an end to it . It still is
4 a problem. So, you know, we are still
5 working on solutions for you, as well .
6 It ' s the same -- I ' m just trying to say,
7 it ' s kind of the same thing . We ' re
8 still working at it . We ' re still
9 chipping at it . You know, I ' m the
10 liaison to that committee as well . And
11 we ' re always sending letters and trying
12 to do more things . And that ' s what
13 we ' re doing here , as well .
14 KERRI FREND : Right . And I mean, I
15 did I stepped away for a while because
16 me being a representative and
17 volunteering my time and working two
18 part-time jobs and a full-time job, It
19 it was overwhelming and my family was
20 affected by it . But when I ' m now seeing
21 the Hampton Jitney buses . And I ' ve made
22 a call . You know what I was told , they
23 have every right to be there . I have
24 called M&V Limo . I have called multiple
25 --
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1 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: To
2 clarify on that though . One of the
3 cases that you e-mailed us about , the
4 Chief did call Hampton Jitney and they
5 were picking up people on Peconic Bay
6 Boulevard . So they did have the right
7 to be there for that , because it was --
8 a private charter --
9 KERRI FREND : Saying --
10 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: No, they
11 have -- they have --
12 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : They
13 have trackers on the bus and they have
14 records and the Chief --
15 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: He got
16 the records . That he was picking --
17 there was a private charter that was --
18 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Picking
19 up people on there and Bay Avenue , I
20 believe .
21 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: Yeah .
22 KERRI FREND : Because yeah, no .
23 I ' m the person that was literally -- had
24 to drive up on a lawn on Bay Avenue
25 because they went into oncoming traffic
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1 to go around a landscape truck, which is
2 you know, another issue on itself .
3 There ' s going to be a head-on collision,
4 but so be it . But when cars have to
5 drive up on people ' s lawns --
6 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Let ' s do
7 this --
8 KERRI FREND : -- to avoid a
9 Hampton Jitney --
10 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Let ' s do
11 this . You said a lot of people are
12 excluded from the conversation tonight
13 because of the time , let ' s -- contact my
14 staff tomorrow. Set something up . So
15 -- and I ' ll be here , and I ' ll listen
16 everything you have to say . Okay . And
17 at the same time , we ' ll organize the
18 State representatives . Try to get them
19 in to help with the remote camera , which
20 would make a big step forward . I will
21 tell you from that survey, I don ' t think
22 there ' s a Board member here that would
23 have probably voted any differently than
24 the majority . Yeah, of course , none of
25 us would feel safe there . None of us
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1 would like any of those things . We ' d
2 probably disagree a little bit on
3 whether we ' re listening or not , we ' d
4 probably vote opposite of what you --
5 what you did , but on all other matters ,
6 we hear it . We get it . We ' re trying .
7 It ' s as a matter of frustration, but we
8 did give the Chief some resources to up
9 the patrolling there . Not to the extent
10 you want , but there is an increase in --
11 KERRI FREND : No, we ' ve seen them
12 there on occasion . We ' ve seen , you
13 know, a few cars --
14 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Each
15 weekend now. There will be each
16 weekend . Not to the extent where the
17 hours you might want , but there will be
18 a presence . All right . And I know
19 Sarah and -- I ' m sorry Councilwoman
20 Nappa ( inaudible ) have been talking and
21 looking at every option and every
22 product on the market . They really
23 have .
24 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : And the
25 Chief is going around to all other roads
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1 that are just as busy , like you say,
2 during rush hour and everything, because
3 we have other areas . Like New Suffolk
4 Avenue , Bay Avenue in Southold . Main
5 Bayview. You know all those areas have
6 the same issues that you have .
7 KERRI FREND : Right . I just -- you
8 know what it is , is that I ' m watching
9 people try to cross the road because
10 they ' ve deeded beach rights . If you
11 look at Delmar --
12 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : I walk
13 on New Suffolk Road, New Suffolk Avenue
14 every morning . And you know, it ' s
15 difficult . And it ' s just -- we ' re busy
16 out here now.
17 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : To a
18 point of information, when I park at
19 Delmar , most of the traffic on Peconic
20 Bay Boulevard is generally coming in and
21 out of Delmar . So , you know, there ' s a
22 lot -- most of that traffic is generated
23 locally believe it or not .
24 KERRI FREND : They ' re also trying
25 to cross the road to go, deeded beach
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1 rights .
2 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I get
3 all that . I ' m just saying, a lot of
4 that traffic is generated locally . Do
5 not under -- under focus on that .
6 That ' s a huge amount of development , new
7 development along Peconic Bay Boulevard .
8 Either way, look, we ' ve had the
9 conversation tonight . I want to maybe
10 get into more of a public setting
11 because of the e-mailing . You know, I
12 want to maybe do a little bit more face
13 to face . I think that ' ll help you .
14 That ' ll help me Call Lauren or Michelle ,
15 we ' ll set something up for the near
16 future . And in the meantime , will work
17 on getting the State representatives .
18 KERRI FREND : I ' m really just doing
19 a lot of copying and pasting and trying
20 to make paragraphs .
21 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Let ' s --
22 let ' s -- well , let ' s get in here and
23 have more of an informal setting and get
24 off of the e-mail forum if we can .
25 KERRI FREND : That would be great .
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1 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Is there
2 anybody else that would like to address
3 the Town Board on any issue?
4 MS . IRWIN : -- Irwin, can I come up
5 and show you this? Brushes Creek
6 yesterday . This gets put up . We have
7 no idea what it is . Does anybody here
8 know what this is?
9 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Looks
10 like a camera .
11 MS . IRWIN : Looks like a camera .
12 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : A bat
13 house .
14 MS . IRWIN : No, it ' s not a bat
15 house .
16 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Oh, no,
17 it is some sort of camera .
18 MS . IRWIN : It ' s on the east side
19 of Brushes Creek.
20 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Oh could
21 be , is that the Deer Trail .
22 MS . MISSY : I think that ' s the
23 Sheriff ' s Department stuff . Yes , that ' s
24 from the Sheriff ' s Department . Suffolk
25 County Sheriff ' s Department Program.
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1 Yes . It ' s for anytime there ' s a crime
2 or activity, they can track it by the
3 cars . And they only use it when there
4 is an incident .
5 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : An
6 active warrant maybe .
7 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : It has
8 nothing to do with the traffic .
9 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Would
10 anybody else like to address the Town
11 Board on any other issue? Eric?
12 ERIC MCCLURE : Good evening , Eric
13 McClure from Mattituck. I ' m intimately
14 familiar with the Speed Camera Program
15 in New York State . I was invited to
16 Albany for the signing of the
17 authorizing legislation for New York
18 City back in 2019 . Senator Kennedy who
19 is the Chair of the Transportation
20 Committee in the State Senate is a
21 supporter of the Speed Camera Program.
22 Assembly member Magnerelli from Upstate
23 is the Assembly Transportation Chair .
24 And I think it would be a game changer
25 to have the Speed Camera Program
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1 expanded beyond the confines of New York
2 City . So if I can be of help as you
3 guys look into that , please feel free to
4 reach out . And Senator Garnardis who ' s
5 -- his district staff is a block from
6 where we are in Brooklyn . He was the
7 sponsor in the Senate of the
8 legislation . So if I can be helpful .
9 The way the legislation is written, it
10 only triggers at 11 miles over the speed
11 limit . So it ' s not 41 miles an hour to
12 trigger a violation, but anyway, if I
13 can help, I ' d be happy to .
14 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Thank
15 you very much .
16 ERIC MCCLURE : I just wanted to
17 really quickly followup . Last time --
18 last Town Board meeting, Councilwoman
19 Doherty and Town Attorney had just met
20 with Jeff Strong about noise at
21 Strong ' s . I know you discussed a
22 particular boat that has been a source
23 of late night noise . Scott , I don ' t
24 know if you ever hear it , but they -- it
25 started back in early May . It ' s been --
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1 not every weekend, but a lot of nights
2 and it -- they are on their boat . They
3 are listening to their sound system.
4 And a song comes on that they like , and
5 they crank the -- it ' s after 11 : 00
6 o ' clock at night . I ' ve been in touch
7 with Strong ' s several times about it .
8 They know who it is . They have rules
9 about noise , which clearly delineate
10 that after 10 o ' clock you need to be
11 quiet . So I don ' t know if you would be
12 able to followup with Jeff .
13 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Sure .
14 ERIC MCCLURE : I mean , it ' s time
15 that these people just get kicked out
16 and --
17 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Yeah,
18 I ' ll followup with Jeff on that .
19 ERIC MCCLURE : That would be great .
20 Because it ' s just -- it ' s very jarring .
21 The restaurants closed . People have
22 gone home . It ' s quiet and then somebody
23 cranks --
24 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Yeah .
25 1 had -- Jeff did bring that up to Paul
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1 and I . And he spoke about that . So
2 I ' ll have a conversation . Let him know
3 that it ' s continuing . We ' re getting
4 complaints .
5 ERIC MCCLURE : It was Friday and
6 Saturday night . Both after 11 o ' clock.
7 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Okay .
8 PAUL DECHANCE : We also did receive
9 a complaint overnight on that issue , and
10 it ' s being -- it ' s being attended to .
11 ERIC MCCLURE : Yeah, I filed a code
12 complaint both evenings . Just to put it
13 on the record .
14 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Thank
15 you . I need to recuse myself , but I can
16 certainly point to noisy boats in my
17 yard or something -- to come or the 50
18 deer that are standing there too at the
19 same time . Yeah, I know what -- I know
20 what you ' re talking about .
21 ERIC MCCLURE : Thank you .
22 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Thank
23 you .
24 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Anybody
25 else?
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1 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : I ' ll
2 make a motion to adjourn .
3 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: Second .
4 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : All in
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6 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Aye .
7 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Aye .
8 COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : Aye .
9 COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: Aye .
10 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Aye .
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3 I , Jessica DiLallo , a Notary Public
4 for and within the State of New York, do
5 hereby certify :
6 THAT , the within transcript is a
7 true record of said Board Meeting .
8 I further certify that I am not
9 related either by blood or marriage to
10 any of the parties to this action ; and
11 that I am in no way interested in the
12 outcome of this matter .
13 IN WITNESS WHEREOF , I have hereunto
14 set my hand this day, July 18 , 2023 .
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