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SOUTHOLD, L. !., N. Y. 119'71
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APPEALS BOARD
MEMBERS
ROBERT W. Gl LLISPI E, JR., CHAIRMAN
CHARLES GRIGONIS, JR,
SERGE DOYEN, JR.
TERRY TUTHILL
ROBERT J. DOUGLASS
MINUTES
Southold Town Board of Appeals
June 14, 1979
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeal~ was
held on June 14, 1979, at 7:30 P.M. (D.S.T.) at the Town Hall, Main
Road, Southold, New York.
There were present: Messrs: Robert W. Gillispie, Jr., Chairman;
Charles Grigonis, Jr.; Terry Tuthill and Robert J. Douglass.
Also present: Shirley Bachrach, Leage Qf Women's Voters.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Douglass, it was
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Board of Appeals approve minutes
for the May 24, 1979, meeting.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs: Gillispie, Grigonis, Tuthill
and Douglass.
On motion by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. Gillispie, it was
RESOLVED, that Appeal No. 2539, Vincent Annabel, Stillwater
AVenue, Cu%chogue, New York, be recessed until August 16, 1979, in order
to allow the applicant time to have the necessary survey work comPleted
and settle the estate which this property is a part of.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs: Gillispie, Grigonis, Tuthilt
and Douglass.
An informal discussion was held with Irving L. Price, Jr., Esq.,
and Mr. and Mrs. Thomas Occhiogrosso concerning their appeal No. 2547
whick was denied at the last meeting. Mr. Price presented the Board with
a copy of both the preliminary and final letters of approval from Daniel
J. Larkin, Department of Environmental Cor~qervation relative to building
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a house near wetlands. Mr. Price also had a copy of a survey from
the Board of Health for cesspool location. He will mail us copies of
all of these letters for our records. Mr. Occhiogrosso plans on filling
in his cellar with dirt~ and constructing his house on top of that. Mr.
Price was given the forms to apply to the Town Board for a wetlands per-
mit and was advised it will be necessary for him to file an Environmental
Impact Statement on behalf of his clients. After completion of the
above, Mr. Price can then return to the Board of Appeals and reapply for
permission to construct a building with insufficient front and rear set-
backs.
An informal discussion was hled with attorney, Abigail A. Wickham,
corncerning an existing right-of-way on Middle Road, Peconic, New York,
a parcel at the end of the right-of-way but the cost of bringing the
present farm road up to the ~rrent right-of-way specifications would
cost more than the lot is worth. She would like the Board's opinion
on the matter. Mr. Gillispie advised Ms. Wickham that we would inspect
this on July 3, 197, our next inspection trip and advise her of our
recommendations.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2551 - Upon application of Gene
Giannone, Main Road, Mattituck, New York, for a variance to the Zoning
Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-32 for permission to locate an in
ground pool in the front yard area. Location of property: Corner of
.Wickham Avenue and Main Road (S. R. 25), Mattituck, New York, bounded
Yon the north by DeFriest; east by McCul-ough; south by Main Road (S. R.
25); west by Wickham Avenue.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application for a
variance to the Zoning Ordinance, legal notice of hearing, affidavits
attesting to its publ±cation in the official newspapers, and disapproval
from the Build±ng Inspector. The Chairman also read a letter from the
Town Clerk that not±fication by certified mail had been made to: N.H.
McCullough and DeFriest Funeral Homes, Inc. Fee paid $15.00.
THE CHAIRMAN: The pool is to be parallel to Wickham Avenue
lengthwise and the proposal is to have it 20 feet from the fence and
it looks as though the pool would be 50 to 60 feet from the easterly
boundary and would be located in what would normally be the rear yard
if Wickham Avenue and the DeFriest right-of-way did not exist. Is
there anyone present who wishes to speak for this applicaiion? Mr.
Giannone, you already have a fence around the entire yard, correct?
MR. EUGENE GIANNONE: Right.
THE CHAIrmAN: Are you going to put an additional fence around
the pool?
MR. GIANNONE: I would like to put an additional fence around the
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pool.
THE CHAIRMAN: I was just wondering if the Building Inspector
considered the existing fence around the whole yard enough?
MR. GtANNONE: Yes, the fence is legal for the pool, but it
doesn't make me happy.
THE CHAIRMAN: I think the application is clear enough. Does
anyone have any questions or anything to add? Is there anyone present
who wishes to speak against this application? (there was no response).
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that the
applicant wishes to conskruct an in ground pool on his property. The
applicant has no legal rear yard due to the fact that his property
abuts Main Road (State Road 25), Wickham Avenue and a private right-
of-way owned by the DeFriest Funeral Home. The entire property is
presently fenced,ib~t the applicant plans to put an additional fence
around the pool. The Board agrees with the reasoning of the applicant.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance would
produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship; the hardship
created is unique and would not be shared by all properties alike in
the immediate vicinity of the property and in the same use district;
and the variance will not change the character of the neighborhood and
will observe the spirit of the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Tuthill, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, that Gene Giannone, Main Road, Mattituck, New York, be
GRANTED permission to locate an in ground pool in the front yard area.
Location of property: Corner of Wickham Avenue and Main Road (S. R. 25),
Mattituck, New York, bounded on the north by DeFriest; east by McCullough;
so~th by Main Road (S. R. 25); west by Wickham Avenue, subject to the
following condition:
(1) Approval of the Suffolk County Planning commission.
Vote of the Board: A~es: Messrs: Gillispie~ Srigonis, Tuthill
and Douglass.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2552 - Upon applicat&on of Crescent
Beach Condominium (Charles Guhl, as agent), 45 Marine Place, East Marion,
New York, for a variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article V, Section ~ .
100-51 and Bulk Parking Schedule for permission to construct decks or
patios with insufficient front and rear yard setbacks. Location of pro-
perty: End of Maple Avenue, East Marion, New York, known as Filed Map
Condominium No. 62.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application for a
variance to the Zoning Ordinance, legal notice of hearing, affidavits
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attesting to its publication in the official newspapers, and disapproval
from the Building Inspector. The Chairman also read a letter from the
Town Clerk that notification by certified mail had been made to: James
Kavanagh, Dawn Estate Shopping Center, Rhoda and Zena Kaplan, W. H.
Paulisen. Fee paid $15.00
THE CHAIRMAN: A copy of the minutes of Creseent Beach Condo-
minium of April 29, 1979 marked for the attention or-the Board of
Appeals is in the file. (The Chairman read the portion of the minutes
pertaining to the sun decks and concrete patios,) Is there anyone
present who wishes to speak for this applicatiOn?
MR. CHARLES GUHL$ I have nothing to add, Mr, Chairman.
THE CHAE~N: I believe you went over the possible location of
each one of theSe patios or decks with the Building Inspector, correct?
MR. GUHL: Yes, I spoke to him.
THE CHAIRSiAN; SO these figures that you have here, for instance
no ~loser than 5 feet to the driveway have been discussed with the
Building Inspector? That measurement concerned us.
MR. GUHL: Yes.
THE CHAIRMAN:
any adjoining unit.
feet apart?
No patio or deck will be closer than 4 feet to
The units are pretty close together. About 10
MR. GUHL: I would say more than 10 feet in most instances.
There will be more than 4 feet between the wrap around and the next
unit.
MR. DOUGLASS: How do you intend to get 5 feet on LEempner?
MR. KAVANAGH: There will be 6 feet there. If you don't count
his existing porch it is 6 feet to the turn in the road.
MR. DOUGLASS: Are ~ou going to have a wrap around there?
MR. KAVANAGH: I'm not talking about the wrap around. I'm talking
about his porch. The road swings out there. His pier there is 6 feet
from the road.
MR. DOUGLASS: That was one we measured and got 2-1/2 feet.
TEE CHAIRMAN: Is this the pier that supports the condominium?
MR. KAVANAGH: He put a pier in. He shouldn, t have, but it is
6 feet from the road. He put a big concrete block there.
THE CHAIRMAN: When a fire truck comes in there and swings through
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he won't take off the corner of the building will he?
MR. KAVANAGH: Well, I had a !maid do iti o~e time; One of the
chamber maids hit that corner of the building.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anything else to be added to this
applicatian. I think that we suggested that you apply for th~s in
one application so it would cover all of the members. Concerning
the patios to the weSt, I believe that the Building Bepartment feels
that anything th&t is flush to the ground does not require a building
permit, b~t if any of your members wished to raise their concrete
patios they would require a building permit. The only other question
in my mind is the site plan approval. We were never able to establish
that the site plan to the original condominium was approved by the
Southold Town Planning Board, and I think the point was made that
if it was never approved there is no way to change the site not that
it exists. Is that correct?
MR. KAVANAGH: Yes, that is correct. I thOught all that stuff
was straightened out. I had Bruer and Edson. They were supposed to be
representing me, I paid them enough. I thought everything was all
straightened out. They told me it was.
THE CHAI~4AN¢ I think it has been suggested that you get site
~lan approval for this &pplication from the Planning Board. Who suggested
this anyway?
· HE SECRETARY: Mr. Fisher°
THE CHAIRMAN: That would automatically clear up all the s~e
plan problems that exist now.
MR. KAVANAGH: Well, what do I have to do now?
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone p~sent who wishes to object to
this application? (there was no response). Okay, we will approve it
now. Okay, the only stipulation we would put on this is that the
patios or decks cannot be enclosed and used for living quarters.
MR. KAVANAGH: That's fine. We don't want that to happen either.
You are talking about having it enclosed with jalous~i'es and all.
THE CHAIRMAN: The decks or patios may not ba enclosed other than
with screening materials.
MR. GUHL: Will we be able to get one building permit to cover
all that we wish to do?
THE CHAIRMAN: I don't know how Mr. Fisher wants to handle that.
We just agree~ to handle the 21 structures under one permit to save this
Board paper work. I think this site plan approval will solve many of your
problems. You have good roads and fire plugs.
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After investigation and inspection the Board finds that the
applicant is representing the 21 members of the condominium in this
application for decks and patios. The decks and patios will be no
larger than 14'3" by 16'13~. Neither the decks or patios will be
closer than 5 feet to the road or closer than 4 feet to any adjoining
unit.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance would
produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship; the hardship
created is unique and would not be shared by all properties alike in
the immediate vicinity Qf the property and in the same use district;
and the variance will not change the character of the neighborhood and
will observe the spirit of the Ordinance.
On mo~ion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Tuthill, it was
RESOLVED, that Crescent Beach Condominiums, 45 Marine Place,
East Marion, New York, be GRANTED permission to construct decks or
patios with insufficient f~ont and rear Fard setbacks~. Location of
property: End of Maple Avenue, East Marion, New York, known as Filed
Map Condominium No. 62, upon the following conditions:
(1) None of the decks or patios will be enclosed and used as
living quarters.
(2) Site Plan Approval by the Southold Town Planning Board.
(3) Suffolk County Planning Commissian Approval.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs: Gillispie, Grigonis, Tuthill
and Douglass.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2556 - Upon application of Theodore
Rohloff, 2870 Orchard Street, Orient, New York, for a variance to the
Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-31 and Bulk Parking-Schedule
for permission to divide propeHty with insufficient area and width.
Location of property: Orchard Street, Orient, New York, bounded on the
north by Orchard Street; east by Rohloff; south by Mayer; west by Blank.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application for a
variance to the Zoning Ordinance, legal notice of hearing, affidavits
attesting to its publication in the official newspapers~ and disapproval
from the Building Inspector. The Chairman also read a letter from the
Town Clerk that notification by certified mail had been made to: Jean
Rohloff, Mr. and Mrs. Peter Blank, Jr., Shirley Mayer. Fee paid $15.00.
THE CHAIRMAN: The applicant has included a sketch of his property
which indicates that the total area is about 59,000 square feet. There
are two existing dwellings on the property; one of which is an existing
old residence that is being used as a storage building and a new residence
built by Mr. Rohloff. The proposal is to create two lots from the property
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which is 146 feet in width and approximately 428 feet in depth. One
lot will have 38,000~square feet and wilt own a 15 foot right-of-way
bordering the existing building on Orchard Stree~ which will be on a
site with about 20,480 square feet. Is there anyone present who wishes
to speak for this application?
THEODORE ROHLOFF: I don't have anything to add. I think you have
covered it very nicely.
THE CHAIRMAN: The situation is simply you want to be able to
separate these two~p~ces of property at some time in. the future. You
do not necessarily Want to do it today.
MR. ROHLOFF: We would only do it if it was necessary.
THE CHAIRMAN: I think the Board customarily does this particularly
when there are existing buildings on each of the parcels to be created.
That old house could be convered to a residence.
MR. ROHLOFP: Very easily, yes.
THE CHAIRMAN: You say you will have 40,000 square feet in the
parcel you house presently sits on. Does that take in the square footage
for the right-of-way?
MR. ROHLOFF: Yes.
~HE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak against
this application? (There was no response).
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that the
applicant is the owner of a parcel of land containing approximately 59,000
square feet of property. One parcel will contain 38,592 square feet and
will contain Mr. Rohloff's residence with a 15 foot right-6f-way adjacent
to the newly created parcel which will contain approximately 20,480 square
feet. The Board agrees with the reasoning of the applicant.
The Board finds that strict applicatiQn of the Ordinance would
produce practical difficulties or unnecessar~ hardship; the hardship
created is unique and would not be shared by all properties alike in
the immediate vicinity of the property and in the same use district;
and the variance will not change the character of the neighborhood and
will observe the spirit of the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Tuthill, it was
RESOLVED, that Theodore Rohloff, 2870 Orchard Street, Orient, New
York, be GRANTER permission to divide property with insufficient area and
wi~hh as requested. Location of property: Orchard Street, Orient, New
York, bounded on the north by Orchard Street; east by Rohloff; south by~
Mayer; west by Blank.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs:
and Douglass.
Gillispie, Grigonis, Tuthilt
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PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2555 - Upon application of Luella Lo
Mullio, Burtis Lane, Peconic, New York, (Abigail A. Wickham, as Attorney),
for a variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-30 and
Bulk Parking Schedule for permission to divide property with insufficient
area and width. Location of property: Lots 78 and 79 and 104 through
110 inclusive on Map No. 654 of Peconic Shores, No. 2.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the applicatin for a
variance to the Zoning Ordinance, legal notice of hearing, affidavits
attesting to its publication in the offiCial newspapers, and disapproval
from the Building Inspector. The Chairman also read a letter from the
Town Clerk that notification by certified mail had been made to: Mr. and
Mrs. Emil Siebert, Commissioner of ~S0cial Services, County of Suffolk,
Mr. and Mrs. Victor L'Eplattenier. Fee paid $15.00.
THE CHAIRMAN: The application is accompanied by the County Tax
Map which shows the parcels referred to as well as a Sketch map for the
Title Company made by Van Tuyl indicating and marked in red the lot that
the applicant wishes to set off from the other nine lots. There are two
cottages on the next lots, Lots No. 106, 107 108 109 110 and 78 and 79.
There are 8 lots. ' ' '
MRS. LUELLA L. MULLIO: There are seven that I would like to
separate ~om the other two. There are n~ne altogether. Lots 104 and 105
are where the house is located.
ABIGAIL A. WICKHAM: Mrs. Mullio owns 104 and all the way north
to 109 and 110 and then also 78 and 79.
MR. DOUGLASS: Her dwelling occupies two lots.
MS. WICKHAM: Yes.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else present who wishes to speak
for this application?
MS. WICKHAM: We would like to request a variance for the. ~
reasons stated in the application. This is an area where the lotS are
very small abd houses have been constructed on very small l°ts. Mrs.
Mullio's residenCe happens to be on two lots and I think it is a natural
division of the property. She has had interest from purchasers in buying
the rental cottages and the remaining property, but is unable to sell
the parcel as a whole parcel. I think it represents a natural division.
THE CHAIRMAN: I was just wondering .... this is not an 6fficial
map~ Us it? It go~s back to 1945. It is a filed map though.
I h~ave a whole map here. Peconic Shores.
M$~ WICKHA~:
THE CHAIRMAN:
MS. WICKHAM:
Is this an "excepted,' subdivision?
In the Town ordinance? I think so. No, it is not
in the Ordinance, I'm sorry.
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MR. DOUGLASS: I've never heard of it being excepted.
THE CHAIRMAN: I was just wondering what criterion was used to
establish the lot sizes there.
MR. DOUGLASS: Someone drew them up.
THE CHAIRMAN: i mean other than a surveyor.
MS. WtCKHAM: I believe that back in 1929, when this was originally
~apped that was the size of the lot.
MR. TUTHILL: Do you know if some of the original sized lots were
merged, Gail?
MS. WICKHAM: There are some parcels which are owned in single
and separate ownership.
MR. TUTHILL: In other words the Suffolk CoUnty Tax Map shows a
different number of lots than the subidvisoD map?
MS. WICKH~: Right, because they are in single and separate
ownership. It says 10,600. Section 100-12 of the Ordinance .....
THE SECRETARY: Peconic Shores, Section I is excepted, but not
Section II.
MS. WICKHAM:
THE SECRETARY:
in the front section.
I don't even see that.
It's under the General Provisions of the O~dinance
THE CHAIRMAN: Mrs. Mullio, do you know the difference between
Section I and Section II?
MRS. MULLIO: No. The Daty family were the original owners of
this. I don't know how they arrived at the size of the lots. Below
me to the right there are houses on single lots.
MS. WICKHAM: I think that Section I is the portion along the
Sound.
THE CHAIRMAN: You wonder why Section I would be excepted, but
not Section II. As I remember it, it was based on how many houses existed
at the time the Zoning Ordinance came into existence. Were there many
houses on that propertyaat that time?
MRS. MULLIO: There were 3 down below me to the right, but they
are all on si~le lotS.
THE CHAIRMAN: I am not bringing this up to complicate your apli-
cation tonight, but if you own the rest of the property, you might check
to see if you can sell them as individual lots.
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MS. WICKHAM: They are not in the excepted list. So, they would
need a variance to do that.
THE CHAIRMAN: Ail you are doing here is separating your residence
from the rest of the property. Between your house and the rest of the
property are two summer cottages, is that correct? This more or less
establishes the boundaries of your property.
MS. WICKHAM: The area of the whole parcel including the two
cottages that she wants to set off is between 34,000 and 35,000 square
feet. This is roughly 100 feet by 125 feet.
THE CHAIRMAN: Does it give the total area on that map?
~S. WICKHAM: Not on the tax map, no.
MRS. MULLIO: I think it is approximaely an acre and a half.
MS. WICKHAM: It would be approximately 22,000 to 23,000 for
the remaining, unimproved property. I think that answers your question.
THE CHAIRMAN: It looks as though the lots are 50 feet by 100
feet in each lot. That is 5,000 each. Assume that lot 78 which is
odd shaped is another 4 ir 5,000 and 79 is approximately 4,000 square
feet. This property is on a very steep hill.
MS. WICKHAM: Lot No. 108 has the large drop in contour.
THE CHAIRMAN: Yes, and that is the lot that has 6 o~ 7,000
square feet. Everything that is remaining is about 23,000 square feet.
MR. DOUGLASS: In this division, what is your intent for access?
MS. WICEHAM: The improved road has full frontage along lots 104
and 105, which we are setting off. It also has full access along lot
106 and a small portion of 107. So this whole piece which is improved
now by the two cottages does have access on Burtis Place. Burtis Place
has not been improved north of that section.
MR. DOUGLASS: But she has an improved ~oad
MS. WICKHAM: She has an improved road from there. You can see
how that road comes in.
MR. DOUGLASS: What I am getting at is, is that what you are
going to use to grant access to those lots.
MRS. MULLIO: If I sell the rental properties, that improved road
will be included.
MR. DOUGLASS: YOur road will come in the other way and stop at
the division line~' I just want to make sure that you have access for the
rest of this land when it is sold.
MS. WICKHA~: Yes, we understand that. They do have access from
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either way.
MR. TUTHILL: Will this lea~e the two A-frame dwellings on one
piece of property?
MS. WICKHAM: Yes.
MR. TUTHILL: In other words you are just cutting the residence
from the rest?
MS. WICKHAM: Yes. We are just separating out the residence at
this time.
THE CHAIRMAN: When you divide out property, one of the things
you have to determine is what is left. We just have to make sure that
the remaining portion is usable.
MS. WICKHAM: We felt that splittinq off the residence on its
own two lots is not going to distort the r~st of the property. It may
be that some of these lotsddown here may at some point be developed.
We would probably have to go to the planning board to do that.
THE CHAIRMAN: You certainly would, if you wanted toi.lha-ve four
lots there. I really doubt that you could get more than one, which still
would not be a half acre. Is there anyone present who wishes t9 speak
against this application? (there was no response).
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that the
applicant is the owner of nine under-sized lots at Peconic Shores,
Section 2. Her present residence occupies two lots, and she wishes
to divide these two lots from the other seven. The Board agrees with
the reasoning of the applicant.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance would
produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship; the hardship
created is unique and would not be shared by all properties alike in
the immediate vicinity of the property and in the same use district;
and the variance will not change the character of the neighborhood and
will observe the spirit of the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Douglass, it was
RESOLVED, that Luella L. Mullio, Burtis Lane, Peconic, New York,
be GRANTED permission to divide property with insufficient area and
width~as~appliedlfor~i .Location of property: Lots 78 and 79 and 104 through
110 inclusive on Map No. 654 of Peconid Shores, ~ection 2.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs: Gillispie, Grigonis, Tuthill
and Douglass.
PUBLIC HEARING - Appeal No. 2553 Upon application of Walter E.
and Ru~h~H. Glasser, Jackson Street, New Suffolk, New York (Abigail A.
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Wickham, as attorney), for a variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article
III, Section 100-30 and Bulk Parking Schedule for permission to divide
property with insufficient area and for permission to convert garage to
a dwelling with insufficient front yard setback. Location of property:
Jackson Street, New Suffolk, New York, bounded on the north by Jackson
Street; east by Third Street; south by Great Peconic Bay; west by Fourth
Street.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application for a
variance to the Zoning Ordinance, legal notice of hearing, affidavits
attesting to its publication in the official newspapers, and disapproval
from the Building Inspector. The Chairman also read a letter from the
Town Clerk that notification by certified mail was not necessary d~e to
the fact the property is bounded on all sides by public streets and Peconic
Bay on the fourth side. Fee paid $15.00.
THE CHAIRMAN: The sketch that is attached shows that the appli-
cants have a total of 202.21 feet on Jackson Street and approximately
the same distance on Peconic Bay. The proposal is to divide the parcel
(70,500 square feet approximately) on which the smaller portion to be
divided out will contain about 28,500 square feet and the remaining
plot will contain about 42,000 square feet. The p~oposed new addition
to the garage on the smaller plot will be at least 20 feet from the new
division line, and will be back a sufficient distance from the street.
I guess that about summarizes it. It is shown as 1.6 acres on the County
Tax Map. Immediately adjoining this property on the other side 6f Third
Stree~ to the east are 4 small lots and 5 small lots are between Fourth
Street and Fifth Street to the east of this property so that the Appli-
cants' proposed division will be larger than anything than anything
with four or five blocks. Is there anyone presen~ who wishes to speak for
this application?
ABIGAIL A. WICKHAM: In light of the surrounding lots, I think
this division is quite reasonable and the reason for not making an equal
division of the property is that the applicants took into account the size
of the houses on each of the lots to be created. There is plenty of room
for sufficient side yards on both parcels.
THE CHAIP~4AN: I don't think there is any particular reason why
the actual width of either of these parcels matters too much. Pakticularly
when you will have 20 feet to the side line even now which is 3/4 of the
current requirement. Is there anyone else present who wishes to speak for
this application? (there was no response) Is there anyone present who
wishes to speak aga~st this application? (there was no response). Does
the Board have any questions.
MR. TUTHILL: We have two applications here, don't we? The first
one being the division of the property and also converting the garage to
a residence with insufficient front yard setback?
THE CHAIRMAN: I think the application states that the garage
will be attached to a new dwelling, is that right?
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MS. WICKHAM: That's right. They are going to construct an.
addition.
MR. TUTHILL: So we have to rule on both parts of the application.
THE CHAIRMAN: The garage is an existing structure so we would not
be involved with that.
MS. WICKHAM: I think what Mr. Tuthill means is that it would be
changed from an accessory use to a dwelling use.
THE CHAIRMAN: The garage will still be an accessory use as long
as you use it for a garage.
MR. DOUGLASS: Is the garage going to be converted to a house, too?
MS. WICKHAM: Mr. Glasser, is the garage going to be converted
into living quarters?
WALTER GLASSER: A small portion of the garage will become living
space.
THE CHAIRMAN: Oh.
MR. TUTHILL: It is really an addition that you are planning?
MR. GLASSER: It is a four car garage now, and when everything
is finished it will be a smaller garage.
MS. WICKHAM: The setback here is about five feet where the
existing house is only four feet so that is consistent with the neighbor-
hood.
THE CHAIRMAN: Do we have a distance back from the street line
the new addition will be located?
MR. GLASSER: I do not have theeexact figure. I would say about
50 feet.
THE CHAIRMAN: So if we~ put a condition that the building be back
50 feet it would be okay with you?
MS. WICKHAM: Yes.
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that the appli-
cants are the owners of a parcel of land containing approximately 70,500
square feet and the proposal is %o divide the property into tw~ building
parcels. The first lot to be created will contain approximately 42,000
square feet and will contain the existing dwelling. The second parcel
will contain approximately 28,500 square feet. The Parcel containing
28,500 square feet presently contains a four car garage which the applicants
wish to attach to an addition for a residence. They wish to use fifty per-
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cent of the garage for living quarters. The Board agrees with the reasoning
of the applicants. The ~urrounding blocks in New Suffolk all contain
much smaller lots than what is being created in this application.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance would
produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship; the hardship
created is unique and would not be shared by all properties alike in
the immediate vicinity of the property and in the same use district; and
the variance will not change the character of the neighborhood and will
observe the spirit of the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, that Walter E. Glasser and Ruth H. Glasser, Jackson
Street, New Suffolk, New York, be GRANTED permission t9 divde property
with insufficient area and De GRANTED permission to convert garage
to a dwelling with insufficient front yard setback. Location of property:
Jackson Street, New Suffolk, New York, bounded on the north by Jackson
Street; east by Third Street; south by Great Peconic Bay; west by Fourth
Street, subject to the following conditions:
(1) The applicant shall furnish a current survey showing the
exact division of the property.
(2) The addition to the garage shall be no closer than 20 feet
to the division line on the westerly boundary.
(3) Th~ addition to the garage shall be no closer than 50 feet
to Jackson Street.
(4) No building shall be closer than 5 feet to Third Street.
(5) No more than 50 percent of the existing garage shall be
converted to living quarters when the addition is added to it.
(6) Th~relshall be no further subdivision of the two lots being
created by this application.
(7) Approval of the Suffolk County Planning Commission.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs: Gillispie, Grigonis, Tuthill
and Douglass.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2554 - Upon application of Moebius
Associates, East Road, Cutchogue, New York (Richard F. Lark, Esq.) for a
variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-31 and Bulk
Parking Schedule for approval of a lot with insufficient area on a pro-
pOsed minor subdivision. Location of property: East Road, Cutchogue,
New York, bounded on the north by Williams, Spiro, Lake and Brower; east
by Williams; south by East Road; west by Fleets Neck Road.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
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for a variance to the Zoning Ordinance, legal notice of hearing, affi-
davits attesting to its publication in the official newspapers, and
disapproval from the Building Inspector. The Chairman also read a lettsr
from the Town Clerk that notification by certified mail was made to:
E. T. Williams; Alfred J. Spiro; Job T. Lake; Jessie Brower. Fee paid
$15.00
THE CHAIRMAN: The County Tax Map indicates that this parcel~
has 2.5 acres in it. The survey attached made February 8, 1979 by Van
Tuylzand the areas are as indicated. Two lots contain 40,001 square
feet and the third contains 36,087 square feet. There is also a copy
of the letter of April 13, 1979, from the Planning Board to Mr. Lark,
which reads as follows: The following actions were taken by the Southold
Town Planning Board at a regular meeting held April 16, 1979. RESOLVED
that the Southold Town Planning Board recommend t® the Southold Town
Board of Appeals approval of the request for a variance for a lot of
insufficient area in the minor subdivision of Moebius. All of the lots
in the area are of much smaller size. RESOLVED to grant approval to
the sketch map of the minor subdivision of property of Moebius subject
to action of the Board of Appeals granting a variance on the undersized
lot. Yours truly, Muriel Brush, Secretary, Southold Town Planning Board.
Is there anyone present who wishes ko speak for this application?
RICHARD F. LARK, ESQ: The application I think Mr. Gillispie
pretty much states what we are here for. It is a request for an area
variance for a plot with a little less than 4,000 square feet to allow
lot No. 3 to be created in the minor subdivision which you have before
you. The Board will recall that we have been before you informally
before and after discussions with the Planning Board, it was decided to
go with 3 rather than 4 lots because the 4 lot division would require
too many variances. Other possibilities were discussed and as the Planning
Board recommended in my application they vetoed the idea of 2 because
that they felt no matter what the covenants were you would still be getting
future applications to divide that lot. This way with the zoning being
40,000 square feet, it was the Planning Board's feeling to go with 3 lots.
THE CHAIR/V~AN: You are going to covenant them?
MR. LARK: Yes, the Planning Board is going to require that. You
also can put that in your action. Their's is held in abeyance pending
the Board of Appeals resolution of the matter. That is how it stands right
now. Then we will go back for a formal approval.
THE CHAIRMAN: It sounded as though the night that we had the
informal discussion that we had solved the problem really well. I guess
no one liked that.
MR. LARK: We would have added some property across the street,
which the Town Attorney would have gone along with. It was felt by the
family and some of the residents in the neighborhood who would be directly
affected, it would provide too much access to the beach by allowing that.
They are going to keep the parcel across the street in the estate for the
present time. They will probably put these on the market and there will
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just be three additional homes in the area.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else present who wishes to speak
for this application? (there was no response). Is there anyone present
who wishes to speak against this application?
WILLIAM McCALL: I live in the neighborhood. I do not have any
objection to the subdivision, but I would like to make one correction.
I don't think they mean to say Fleetwood Road when they say to the w~st.
I believe they mean Pequash Road.
MR. LARK: He's correct, it is Pequash Avenue. That is the
correct. The original name 6f the road was Fleets Neck Road. Van Tuyl
carries it on the survey.~ Not to add confusion that is why it was
written that way.
THE CHAIRMAN: We can amend the application to say Pequash Road
or Fleets Neck Road. That should take care of it.
MR. LARK: It is officially known as Pequash Avenue.
THE CHAIRMAN: There are quite a few roads like that around here.
I can think of one. Skunk Lane. Some people object to it, some people
don't.
MR. TUTHILL: Bowery Lane became Ackerly Pond Lane.
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that the
applicant is the owner of a parcel of land consisting of 2.665 acres.
The applicants applied to the~Southold Town Planning Board for a minor
subdivision consisting of three lots. Two of the lots contain 40,001
square feet and the third contains 36,087 square feet. The Planning
Board conditioned the minor subdivision upon the Board of Appeals granting
a variance for the lot containing 36,087 square feet. It should be noted
that the westerly boundary of this property is designated as Fleet's Neck
Road, but the proper name of the road is Pequash Avenue. The Board agrees
with the reasoning of the applicant since most of the lots in the surround-
ing area are considerably smaller than the size of lot No. 3 in the sub-
division. ~ ~
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance would
produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship; the hardship
created is unique and would not be shared by all properties alike in
the immediate vicinity of the property and in the same use district~
and the variance will not change the character of the neighborhood and
wilt observe the spirit of the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Tuthill, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, that Moebius Associates, East Road, Cutchogue, New York
be GRANTED approval of a ~lot with insufficient area on a proposed minor
subdivision. Location of property: East Road, Cutchogue, New York, bounded
on the north by Williams, Spiro, Lake and Brower; east by Williams; south
by East Road; west by Fleets Neck Road, upon the following conditions:
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(1) Although the Planning Board will covenant this subdivision
there shall be no further division of the lot being created by this
application.
(2) Suffolk County Planning Commission Approval.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs. Gillispie~ Grigonis, Tuthill
and Douglass.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Tuthill, it'was
RESOLVED, that the next meeting of the Southold Town Board of
Appeals will be held on Th~day, July 5, 1979, at 7:30 P.M. (D.S.T.)
and set the following times on that day as the time and place of
hearing upon the following applications :
7:30 P.M. (D.S.T.) Upon application of Edward H. Schwiebert,
202 Round Hill Road, Roslyn Heights, New York, for a variance to the
Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-32 for permission to construct
an accessory building in. the side yard area. Location of property: Mill
Creek Drive; east by Pursel; south by Long Creek; west by MadDougall.
7:45 P.M. (D.S.T.) Upon application of Claudio's Restaurant,
Main Street, Greenport, New York (Robert Ketcham, as Agent), for a
special exception i~ accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III,
Section 100-30 C 6 f for permission to locate an off-premises directional
sign. Location of property: Southwest corner of County Road 27 and Main
Street (State Road 27), Greenport, New York, boinded on the north by
County Road 27; east by Main Street (State Road 25); south by Henkel;
west by Mazzaferro.
7:55 P.M. (D.S.T.) Upon application of Richard and Susan Greene,
Glenn Road, Southold, New York, for a variance to the Zoning Ordinance,
Article III, Section 100-32 for permission to erect a garage in the front
yard area. Location of property: Right-of-way off Oaklawn Avenue,
Southold, New York, bounded on the north by Jockey Creek; east by Mullen
and Dunne; south by Oed; west by Gunnison.
8:10 P.M. (D.S.T.) Upon application of Jay and Mary Thomson,
695 Bayshore Drive, Greenport, New York (George Ahlers, as Agent), for a
variance to the Zoning, Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-31 for permis-
sion to construct an addition to an existing house which would cause the
usage of more than 20 percent of the building lot. Location of property:
Bayshore Road, Greenport, New York, known as Lot No. 64, Peconic Bay
Estates, Greenport, New York.
8:25 P.M. (D.S.T.) Upon application of Victor and Marion Ales,
Nassau Point Road, Cutchogue, New York, for a variance to the Zoning Or-
dinance, Article Iii, Section 100-31 and Bulk Parking Schedule for permission
to divide property with insufficient area and width. Loc~tion of property
Meadow Lane, Cutchogue, New York, bounded on the north by Case; east by
West Creek; south by New Suffolk Avenue; west by Meadow Lane.
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Vote of the Board:
and DOuglass.
Ayes: Messrs:
Gillispie, Grigonis, Tuthill
The meeting was a~journed at 9:30 ~.M.
Respectfully yours,
Secretary
APPROVED