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SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
JUNE 5, 1984
EXECUTIVE SESSION
Present: Supervisor Francis J..Murphy, Councilman Joseph L. Townsend,
Jr., Justice Raymond W. Edwards, Councilman Paul' Stoutenburgh, Councilman
James A. Schondebare, Councilwoman Jean W. Cochran, Town Clerk Judith T.
Terry, Special Counser Richard F. Lark.
9:30 A.M. - The Board met with Special Counsel Richard F. Lark to discuss
the People versus Jens and the decision of Town Justice Price, and various options
open to the Town. No resolution was arrived at and Mr. Lark, Will report back to
the Town Board.
WORK SESSION
.10:'30 A.M'. ~ Mr. William F. Mullen; Jr.~.' Licensed Insurance Cons'ultant,..met-~
with the Board to submit a proposal to. (a) review, and upgrade current insurance
exposures, (b) prepare prequalification letters and supporting documents and,
thus, assign markets, (c) process specifications for proposals, and (d) review
proposal, s and recommend the suc~:essful prOducer. Mr. Mullen has Performed
this service for the Towns of Shelter' Island, Riverhead, Hempstead, Floral Park,
and is presently working on Lynbrook.. He has made comparisons between the
Town of Southold and Town of Riverhead and can project a savings, and more
important, proper coverage. M~.'. Mullen is.,asking' $5,:0001.'00,. or 50~ of'the
savings to the Town with a cap at' $10,'000.'00~.to perform this service, and re-
quested a commitment by the end of June.
11.:00 A.M. - Mr. Eugene Daneri, 'Camp Mineola Road, Mattituck,. appeared before
the Board concerning the reconstruction of his neiqhbor's (Thorton Smith) bulk-
head. Mr. Smith's bulkhead was destroyed by a recent storm and his.bulkhead,
which was in line with Mr. Daneri'S property, is 'now being constructed 4Lt inches
back from the location of the old one. He has called the DEC. concerning his
concern that it will erode his property, but has not had a response. The 'work..
is in progress and will be finished before anyone makes a decision to stop it..
Building Inspector Hindermann was at the site for an inspection and told Mr.
Daneri that the construction was a repair, it was on Mr. Smith's private property,
and a permit was not needed, Town Attorney Tasker stated that he does not
believe Mr. Daneri can compel his neighbor to build his bulkhead to protect Mr.
Daneri's property. Supervisor Murphy will contact the DEC and ask them t~
make an inspection as soon as possible.
11:45 A.M. - Community Development Direc.tor James McMahon met with the Board
relative to the use of Community Development funds to renova{e the bathr~ooms of
of the Village House of the Oysterponds Historical Society at Orient. He has
spoken to the Community Development Office in the County and they state th~s
proposed project is fundable because~the facility does not meet the handicapped
code and the building is open for public tours. $10,'000.'00 has been set aside
in Community Development for the Cutchogue Library project which is oot going
to be used because the library is going into new construction and is not eligible
to use the funds. Mr. McMahon will get an estimate for the cost of the project
and present it to the Town Board.--Mr. McMahon also spoke about the pr~oposal
of Don Acuri, Horton's Point, to donate Pole No. 31 and the light he had installed
on it to the Town and would like the Town to take over the electric payment of
the light. Mr. Acuri would also like' a sign at the end of Horton's Point Road
stating, "No Beach."--Mr. McMahon advised the Board there will be a group of
people at the public meeting in the evening concerning the Driftwood Cove con-
version to coop apartments. The residents of Driftwood Cove have received
notification that they have five years to purchase or move out.
12:18 P.M. - Ressess for lunch.
2:35 P.M. - Work Session reconvened, and the Board reviewed off agenda items:
Need for a resolution to re-establish~ the Water Advisory Committee, outlining
their responsibilities, before appointing new members. The Board will meet with
t-he present Water Advisory Committee prior to the next Board meeting to draw
up a resolution and guidelines.--Justice Edwards spoke about the need to clean
up the metal dump on Fishers Island. Supervisor Murphy will speak to Bob
Pfluger about this problem to see if he would like to handle it.--Justice Edwards
also brought up the need to finish up the light project at the tennis courts on
Fishers Island.
2:40 P.M. - Executive Administrator Victor Lessard met with the Board to discuss
the meeting of. the previous evening with the fire organizations, the need to call
for a civil service list for Building Inspector, the need .to.call.for the Clerk-Typist
civil service list for a replacement for Eileen Carey, the need for new files, more
space, real estate signs, wetland violations, his new monthly report form, and
Home Improvement Contractor Licenses.
3:20 P.M. - Town .Trustee President Henry P. Smith and Trustee Frank Kujawski
spoke, to the Board about hiring Lori Brooks and Deborah Shalvey to conduct the
annual creek survey. They halve $1500 allocated in their budget, and to meet the
the contract amount of $1,000 for each person, they are asking for $350.00 additional
to be added to their budgel~, as they have $250.00 left over from the Association of
Town's allocation. The Boa'rd agreed to the proposal, and a resolution to enter into
a contract with Ms. Brooks and Ms. Shalvey will be placed on the 6/19 a~lenda.--
Trustee Smith was asked by Super¥isor Murphy if he had a recommendation for the
appointment of a Trustee to fill the position vacated by Councilwoman COchran, and
Mr. Smith said he would recommend that a new Trustee not be appointed, but run
for election in November.
3:27 P.M. - WilliaTM Esseks, Esq., accompanied by his client Nicholas Schick,~
met with the Board to discuss their proposal to dedicate the easterly 10 acres
of open space at Orient Point, owned by Mr. Schick,. to the Town of Southold-
in exchange for an increase in density on the proposed cluster development.
The present cluster proposal shows 20 lots, and with the proposed dedication
of the ~',10.'acres, this would increase the number of lots to 25.~ The-Board
advised Mr. Esseks they would discuss this proposal with the Planning Board.
With reference to the unsafe building violation at the Orient Point Inn, owned
by Mr. Schick, Mr. I=sseks said he has attempted to have the Orient ~ire Depart-
ment burn the building, but they refused. If any Board member can help in
this situation he would apprecial~e it.
3:45 P.M. - Account Clerk Betty Wells met with the Board, at their request,
to advise them that under the provisions of the Benefit Fund, if~the Board
wishes elected officials to be covered· all elected officials must ioin as a body.
Presently the cost is $250.00 to the Town and $150.00 per employee per year.
4:15 P.M. - The Board audited the outstanding vouchers~ and reviewed the
agenda.
5:15 P.M. - Work Session adjourned.
REGULAR MEETING
7:30 P.M.
A Regular Meeting of the Southold
June 5, 1984 at the Southold Town Hall
Supervisor Murphy opened the meeting
Allegiance to the Flag.
Present:
Town Board was held on Tuesday,
· Main Road, Southold, New Yo~k.
at 7:30 P.M. with the Pledge of
Supervisor Francis J. Murphy
Councilman Joseph L. Townsend, Jr.
Justice Raymond W. Edwards
Councilman Paul Stoutenburgh
Councilman James A. Schondebare
Councilwoman Jean W. Cochran
Town Clerk Judith T. Terry
Town Attorney Robert W. Tasker
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SUPERVISOR MURPHY; At this time I would like to officially welcome our
newest Councilperson, Jean Cochran, who was sworn in, was officially certified
last week, was sworn in Sunday at a very nice ceremony, and this is quite an
honor for Southold Town, this is the first woman that's serving on the Town
Board and I look forward to working with Jean. I think the whole Town Board
does. She!s an excellent work and has excellent credentials, and welcome on,
Jean.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Thank you, Frank.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: At this time I'd ask for a resolution to approve the
audit of the bills of June 5, 1984.
Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that the followin9 audited bills be and hereby are ordered paid:
General Fund Whole Town bills in the amount of $117,452.84, General Fund
Part Town bills in:the amount of $324,004.59, Highway Department bills in
the amount of (;106,992.'18, Fishers Island Ferry District bills in the amount
of $14,676.02,' Capital Account, Wastewater Treatment Plant bills in the amount
of $18~424.59, and Capital Acount, Landfill Building and Equipment bills in the
amount of $8,650.36. .
Vote of the 'Town Board.: Ayes: CoUncilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I ask for a resolution ~'or the approval of the minutes
of the regular meeting of.May 22, 1~984.
Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh,'seconded by .Councilman Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the Regular Meetin9 of the Southold Town Board
held on May 22, 1984 be and hereby are approved. ,.,
Vote Of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Sch0ndebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh,-Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy. '
This resolution was declared'duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: And finally i'd like a resolution to set the da;t.~ of the
next meeting for June 19, 1984~ at 3:00 P.M., Southold Town Hall.
Moved b._~.Couricilwoman Cochran,'seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was
RESOLVED that the next Reg'Ular Meeting of.lthe~Southold Town Board Will'be
SoUthold,held at 3.~00NewP.M.;York.TUesday, June 19, 1984 at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road,
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy. '
This resolution was' declared duly ADOPTED.
I. REPORTS.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Moving .on to the first item on your agenda is'Reports.
1. Highway Department - May '1984..
2. Fishers Island Ferry District - May .1984.
3. Nutrition Program - April 1984. And while we're talking about that
report, I did go down With our Nutrition Director Vee McKeighan and we met
with Adelaide Sill<worth on Monday, and we're going in--we're writing up a
program, going in competition for a federal grant for a "Care for the Elderly."
People who are-confined to their homes, .livi.og..with somebody else, and it's
lil<e a daycare program for the elderly. It has great possibilities. Southold
Town, we're very enthusiastic about it and hopefully the program we write up
and the contribution, mostly in-kind services from the Town, that we will
qualify to get a program like this started. There's not much money available,
but I feel there's a great need for this and we are applying for this grant.
We'll know within a couple months. Hopefully we could get it.
4. Supervisor's monthly report - May 198~.
5. Building Department's monthly report - May 1984. Anyone who follows
these and reads them, this is a new format for the Building Inspector, sin~ilar
to the Police Department's, where it"shows last year monthly and an annual
summary. What we're trying to point out i's the tremendous amount of growth
and activity that is taking place in the Town. And if you look at this report--
these reports are all on file in the Town Clerk's Office, and they are available
for anybody, to see--it does show a tremendous increase~each'month over last
year.
6. Town Justice Price- May 1984.
7. Town Clerk's monthly report - May .1984.
8. - Councilmen's reports - I'll start off on my right with Jay. Do you have
anything to report, Jay?
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COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Yesr~,F~f~R~,?l~her~e was a Landfill Committee
meetin9 last Monday and we're happy to say that the DEC inspector-'came out
and he was a new inspector, and he'd never been there before, and the stories
that he heard about the Landfill and what he saw when he got there were two
different things, and he's happy with what he saw. and I think that everything
is going smoothly. We're rather happy with the whole concept. We're getting
some negative feedback, really on the fees that we're charging to the commercial
haulers. There are a lot of grey areas of where the people fit into the fee
schedule that we have... We've already modified it' and amended it once, and I'm
sure that before we'.re done, by the end of the year we'll be doing another
modification of the fee schedule. So we're trying to iron out the bugs.Z-Then
we also had a Police Committee meeting meeting th!s.mo.r~ga.t .8~.30__and'
interest to the public is the program by which the Police Officer of Southold
Town is transferred to East Hampton, and an Police Officer of East Hampton
is transferred to Southold Town. The concept being that each department then
can learn the procedures, the rules and regulations and every day life of each
other's-department and hopefully something will come out of it so some improve-
ments, if necessary, will be made. Outside of that, that's about it, Frank.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, Jay. Joe?
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: The Farmland Preservation met last week and they've
asked the Town Board and the Supervisor to do a couple of things. One of them
has to do with the number of requests they've had--the number of offers of land
from the farmers. The number has been so great that now we do not have enough
money to purchase all those acres that have been offered, therefore, they've asked
to set a deadline of July 2nd for the receipt of such offers, so they will be able
to look over all of the land that has been offered and decide on the very best
properties. They're also requesting proposals from various land appraisers. There
will be a notice in the paper to that effect, as well as letters sent out to tho§e
people that we know specialize in that area.--Also last week the Supervisor,
Councilwoman Cochran and I attended a meeting that was sponsored by the
Universalist Church and included the Greenport Housin9 Alliance, the Village
Greenport Community Development Program and the Town of Southold Community
Development Program. it was a discussion of.the housing problem--housing
shortate--or the shortage of inexpensive housing in the Town of Southold. And
even though i think we all knew that the problem existed~ when you year the
first-hand reports of people and of.the problems that people are having, it's
very eye-opening, and I for one have been giving it a lot of thought.* When
the Master Plan comes in we will have a provision for multi-family housing, which
is generally thought to be less expensive--is less expensive than the housing on.
the market today, and I'd also like to kick around the establishment of a Housing
Authority in the Town of Southold, which will help people who want to create
iow and moderate income housing. That's all I have, Frank.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, Joe. Councilman Stoutenburgh?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH.- Yes, ! have a report on the Shellfish Committee.
We met June Tst and had the following members there: Ray Dean, our 'Bay
Constable, our new Bay Constable Don Dzenkowski, Paul Flagg, our advisor,
and his assistant Dave Austin, and we had a-Trustee representative John
Bredemeyer, and a Bayman representative Frank Begora, and myself, and we
were brought up on the program to see just exactly what was going on, and
we found out that the~( have already distributed 270 bushel of chowder clams
for seeding purposes. One hundred bushel went in'Mill Creek, one,s.hundred
bushel went in Hallock's Bay, 35 'bushels in Goose Creek, and 35 bushel in -
West Creek, that's~ off- New Suffolk. Seed clams were put in:the rafts and
probably some of you have seen these floating in our creeks, 10 rafts are in
Goose Creek, 6 are in Mill Creek, and this week they're putting in 4 in West
Creek, off New Suffolk. Our next move is to have Paul Flagg survey our
creeks, which he will be doing when he gets: back from vacation, and determine
where the best place to put these seed clams that are now ready for transplant
from the bottoms. We also, atl that time, are going to be removing these clams
from the bottoms and we invite, and ! hope some of you people will come to see
the results so that you'.Il see that the dollars that are going for shellfish permits
are paying off, because we're having very good results with this progr~am and
we hope it'.s going to help our Town immensely. This will be in the paper and
I hope yOu'll all be there or at least See the results through photographs~from
the press when they are invited also. That's it, Frank.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY:' Thank you, Paul. Jean, would you like to make some
comments? I haven't appointed Jean to any committees yet, I wanted her to have
her first official meeting and then ask her where her interests would lie, and we
will assign her this week. As you Could see everybody is working quite hard.
Jean, Would you like to make some comments?
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN-: When you were going to ask me if I had anything
to report, I was going to say, i haven't been her long enough. I sat through
my first meeting today, Work Session, did more listening than speaking. I some-
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times listen first and then talk. I look forward to serving on some of the
committees, Frank. I've already began Lo see some of the areas I think I'd like
to work in and be involved in,- so if we can sit down and talking about I'd
appreciate it.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Be glad to, sure. Judge Edwards?
JUSTICE EDWARDS: A couple things, Frank~ To begin with, Fisher Island
is recovering from the Memorial Day weekend and every year they have a little
pool on the ferryboat to see how many~-who can guess the right amount of cars
that come over and there was very close to 300 cars came to Fishers Island for
Memorial weekend, and needless to say--I didn't win--but it was a $100~00. pool
and someone come off happy. This afternoon I gave Judy Terry some more
money from the mooring permits, and so far we've collected over $1500.00 in
mooring permits on Fishers Island in West l-iarbor. And lastly, sometime this
morning the mosquito eatinc~ fish, the Gambusia were delivered to Fishers Island
and they should be swimming around in our ponds chewing up all the mosquito
larva over there. This was courtesy of the Bay Constables. I guess they had
a nice day to cross the Sound. Also, two young colleqe ~lirls from Fishers
Island went down to Suffolk County on Friday and had a crash course on
the application of BTI which is a chemical that's supposed to hold down the
mosquito population, and they're going to be watching this very close and
probably some time in the fall there'll be a report given. Thank you, Frank.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, Ray. My report is there has been a
tremendous amount of activity and as you could hear, just from the reports
of the Councilmen, '1 do think you could be very proud of your entire Town
Board. I think everybody is doing, really, a little bit more than their iob,
and I'm proud to be part of the Board~. We had the fire associations, the
fire services met with the .Town .Board last night and hopefully this has been
a perennial problem for the last twelve years, I think, in the Town, and !
hope, and I think .we can get this problem solved this year. We are starting'
now ;--l ~ have the authorization to call for the CiVil Service list of a new Build-
ing Inspector,' which has been sorely needed, and i think now we could start&~
I think we're all going in the right direction~ I think the Town Board heard
of the concerns of the fire service and. I think--I know they're I~gitimate
concerns. These volunteers certainly have yours and our interest in t~rst
prioritY. Also, we will be setting up a Recreation Committee to look further
into the r. ecreation needs of.the Town, which are many, and the new planner
that we have hired has been already asked to start drawing up the ar~endments
'and the code changes necessary for two-family housing conversion, whicl~ I
think everybody agrees, is most needed here to m~ke affordable housing-for
both the young and the old. Each day, as Joe mentioned, the program that
we attended--each day it's brought; I think, before the Board more and more.
I'm sure there's some people here tonight from Driftwood Cove who are very
concerned, and the Town Board is concerned. I think We're all concerned
about affordable housing in South01d'Town and I think now is the time we
should start addressing it before it gets out of hand.
~11. PUBLIC NOTICES.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I would like to move on to the next item, Public'Notice'~
We have ten notices this week and I would like to ask our Councilman on the
right, Jay, to read the first two and we'll each go down and read two.
COUNCILMAN SCHOI~I~EBARE: Number 1 is a U. S. Army Corps of Engineers
public'notice to issue a Regional General Permit 'for the construction of timber
piers, docks/decks, moorin~l piles.and breakwaters for non-commercial purposes
in navigable waters of the United States under regulatory jurisdiction of the New
York District located within Nassau and Suffolk Counties. Expires June'21, 1984.
2. New York Stat~ Department of En~'i'ronmental Conservation Notice of
Complete Application by David S. H~rton to construct a one family dwellir~g
Laurel. Written comments by June 15, 1984.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, Jay. Joe?
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Number 3 is a New York State Department bf Environ-
mental Conservation Notice of Complete Application by Mark LaRosa to construct a
one family dwelling in Laure. Written comments by June 15, 1984.
4. New York State-Department of Environmental Conservation Notice of
Complete Application by Alfred and '. Barabara DiNunzio to construct a single family
dwelling and sanitary system in Peconic. Written comments by June 15, 1984.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, Joe. I might comment ~t this tim~ 'that
all of these notices are On file in the Town Clerk's Office and on the Town
Clerk's Bulletin Board.
Number 5 is a Notice.of Complete Application of Thomas Samuels to create
a two lot residential subdivision on Narrow River Road, Orient. Comments by
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6. Notice of Complete AppllcatiQr~?dy?.l~len~r¥~:Domaleskl to subdivide a four
acre .parcel of land into two separate parcels and is located on Long Island
Sound at the end of Glen Court in Cutchogue. Comments by June 15, 1984.
Paul?
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COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Number 7 is from the DEC and this is to
request the use of a meeting room here in Soutl~old T.own Hall on Juno 28, 1984
at 7:30 and also July .19, 1984 at 7:30 for the purpose of conductin9 an informa-
tional meeting and-a public hearin9 with regard to the implementation of the
Coastal Erosion Management Law in our Town. It's a very important one for
anyone living on the water and I would suggest they attend it.
8. Announcing a Public Information Meetlnq on Limitin9 Toxics in Surface
Waters, Proposed Revisions to 6NYCRR Part 701 of the NYSDEC Code. This is
a meeting and I guess ,we have to look it up. The one in New York is'on Monday,
June 25th at the World'Trade Center. ! would like to have a copy of this, Judy,
sent to Martin'Trent, if we coUld, okay? Our Water Advisory people.
:TOWN CLERK.TEP~RY-~: Yes. All :(if the Water':A~tvisory people?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: No, just him.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Joan, Would you like to read Number
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN:_. Number 9 is from the County of Suffolk in reference
to Floodplain Management for a review to comply with Executive Order $1988 and
1.1990 Protection of Wetlands. If there are any comments send them in writing or
call Olga Turner by June 5; ,1984.
10. The New York STate Public Service Commission's Consumer Services
Division and Suffolk County on Utility Consumer Rights and the Disabled, and
it's a notice of a free workshop on Thursday, June. 14th, 9:30 A.M. to 12 Noon
at the Suffolk County Legislative Auditorium, Vets Highway in'Hauppauge.
I!1. COMMUNICATIONS.
SUPERVISOR 'MURPHY: We'll move on to the third item on the agenda,-
communications..
1. From East End Arts & Humanities Council and it's a Calender.of Summer
Events. This is available at the Town Clerk's Office and it will be o~ the Town
Clerk's Bulletin Board.
2. A very important one, and it's the Town of Southold Blood Program and
they are in desperate need of a Volunteer coordinator. Arlene Magaw, who has
been doing thiq:for quite a long time; has moved away to live in New England
and we have agreat program in Southold Town and one that's most needed and
I would like the press to pick it up to give some publicity that this Blood Program
is 'looking for a coordinator of their program, or if th.ere is anyone here.we certainly
would appreciate it. The information is available in either my office or the Town
Clerk's Office.
3. Letter-from Joe Sawicki, our Assemblyman, concerning the raisin9
of the railroad bridge on Route 25 in Laurel, that this work will be done, will
go out to bid this summer. Work will not start until the fall after the summer
season is over because 'it'S going' to necessitate detour around for a short period
of time. But we do have progress on this and I'm very glad and appreciate the
help of Assemblyman Sawicki in' this.
4. ' From the Nursing-.Image Association of Suffolk County. The Town Board
brought a proclamation-~l brought it down to them at the Suffolk County celebration
of Nurse Recognition Day, down in the Walt Whitman Mall last month, and it was
a very nice program and it's one to give the nurses recognition that they really
deserve.
5.' A very nice one from a Deborah Scott, Mattituck Presbyterian Church,
thanking the Town Board for the great improvement in parking in Mattituck.
We're in the final stages of landscaping and the final top coat on the parking
lot that had been much needed, not only for'the village merchants, but also for
two churches and a theatre gr:oup that-are next' door to it, and it is a great
assist.' ~lopefully it's going to be much safer and.a much more convenient facility
for the people in' that area. It is good to hear from people when they ,appreciate
what the Town Board has done. We spent a lot of money down there and hopefully
it's going to help everbody in the area.
6. From a Robert .Pike concerning the petitions of SOS Against Seac~roft
Condominium Development.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: At this ~ime I would lik~ a resolution to recess the
regular Town Board meeting' so we could have our public he.aring scheduled at
8:00 o'clock.
Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh; it was
RESOLVED that a recess be called at this ~ime, 8:00 P.M. for the purpose of
holding a public hearin9 i~elative to ,increasin9 the maximu'm amount proposed to
be expended for improvements in the Southold Wastewater Disposal District.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
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Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend r Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
Meeting reconvened at 8:15 P.M.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We move back to our regular Board meeting. Moving
to item V on your agendaw which is Reso[ut.ions. The first one is to g~ant
permission to the Mattituck Chamber ot~ Commerce.
V. RESOLUTIONS.
Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby 9rants
permission to the Mattituck Chamber of Commerce to close Love Lane and
Love Lane-Pike Street intersection, 75 feet east and 75 feet west, including
the parking lot opposite the North Fork Bank & Trust Co., from 8:00 A.M~
to 4:00 P.M., Saturday, July 14, 1984, for the purpose of holdin9 their
annual Mattituck Sale Day and Street Fair, provided they secure the necessary
insurance to hold the Town of Southold harmless.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh; Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 2 is to approve
ment Rules and Regulations.
Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of
Town Police Department Rule and Regulation No.
Female:
Hair will be neat, trimmed, clean and present a
personnel's hair will not exceed 1-1/2 inches in
scalp, will not extend below the collar, but may
A. Hair longer than above is permissible,
rout wear it in a style that conforms to above.
Southold Town Police Depart-
Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was
SOthold hereby approves Southold
RR-2A- Groomin9 Regulations -
well groomed appearance. Femal
thickness as measured from the
extend to mid-ear.
but when in uniform g member
Hair must be pulled back away
from the face and secured so that it ~does not interfere with the proper wearing
of issued headgear. In no event shall ponytails or other styles or lengths of
hair be exposed which may be readily grabbed by an aggressor.
B. Items used to hold hair ~up must blend with hair. Decorative articles
may not be worn in hair..
C. Wigs or hairPieces will not be worn while on duty in uniform, except
for cosmetic reasons to cover natural baldness or physical disfigurement. D. Make-up, if worn, is to be worn in moderation.
E. The Chief of Police will have the authority to.waive these standards
to meet the individUal needs for special assignments.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: On the question, anyone? I'd jus~ like to comment,
there are regulations for the males too, for any women who are concerned.
And I will say we do have one female member of Southold Town Police Depart-
ment and she has been excellent and this was not meant to be a criticism of
her. It was just that the rules and regulations did not cover her, and we
sent a memo down when we got this to the Police Chief and I told him I'm sure
that he's exempt, that he doesn't have to worry.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I tried to..~all Beth Charters, mainly to just
see what her feelings were on this 'and she was on vacation. So I still think
we ought to hold this. Has she been--has she looked this over?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Oh, sure. Yes.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: I think the purpose of this is to prevent .discrirdination
against the men. It's not the woman. The men are say, "If you have rules
regulating the growth and the length of our hair, how come you don't have them
for women?" And that's the purpose of this regulation.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I don't mind them, but I don't want a man
making up the rules for a woman, that's my problem.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: This was patterned after, I believe;"the County regulations.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, any other questions? (No response.)
JUNE 5, 1984
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: co~'~i~i~)~iia~~ C~chran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 3, ~M'r. Dean asked us to have a resolution to
reject this bid, so !'11 offer the resolution.
Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby rejects the
bid of Sam Allen's Modern Machinery, Inc., Coram, New York, for supplying
the Highway Department with one (1) 1971 Vac-AII, at a total cost of $25,'000,00.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards~ Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 4 is to authorize the Greenport School District
to use their recreation funds in the winter instead of the summer.
Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
Greenport Public School to use their allocated 1984 recreation funds to sponsor
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a roller skatin9 program durin9 the winter season.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions on it? They have a very fine program
in the wintertime that they feel is much more needed and it's basically operating
the roller skating rink during the holidays and they feel they get much more out
of it than the summer recreation program that the Town allocates money for. -:
Any other questions? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY:- Number 5.
Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it 'was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southol'd hereby authorizes and
directs the Town Clerk to place a public notice in The Long Island Traveler-
Watchman and The Suffolk ~i'imes notifyin9 the public that the Town of Southold's
Community Development Agency has received ocntract authority from the U. S.
Department of Housing and Urban Development to subsidize the rents of thirty-
five (35) eligible families by way of the Section 8 existin9 program, which will be
administered by the Greenport Housing Alliance, Inc., as a sub-grantee for the
Town of $outhold.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: If you are interested, the ~ligibility income require-
ments are here. It's a rather lengthy statement, so I won't read it at the moment,
but ranging from $18,200 for one person to $32,000 for eight persons in a family.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I might say the rents that they offer too are fair for
a man who owns a rental unit and I hope we have a lot of DeoDle ooina into
this program. I think it will go a long way to help our housing needs. Any
other.'comments? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Sch6ndebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 6 is a trailer renewal. ~
Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was~
RESOLVED that the permit of Maddie Miles for a one family house trailer located
on private road off Main Road, Mattituck, New York, which expires on June 22,
· 1984, be and hereby is renewed for a six (6) month period.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 7 is Fishers Island on putting out of the channel
markers.
Moved by JUstice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the
proposal of Pirates Cove Marine, Fishers Island, New York, to paint, place
in the spring, remove in the fall and storeF the Town owned channel markers.
at Fishers islandv at a total cost of $650.00.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY:: Any questions on it? Paul?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Yes. We have our Bay Constable does that
here and is it practical over there at all; Ray?
JUSTICE EDWARDS: It hadn't been done in the past, it had been done by the
Town in the past. Something we could look into.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Our Bay Constable does it, you know. He-puts
them out in the beginning of the year when it's slow and in the fall when things
aren't that fast he has time to do it.' It might be worth looking into, I would
think.
JUSTICE EDWARDS: Will do it.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: It's just a distance, Paul, and that why we went in--
we've done this for two years now, Ray, right?
JUSTICE EDWARDS: Well, no, more than that. It's been more than that.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: This is the standard way it's been done?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Yes. Any other questions on it? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Superviso~r_
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, Number 8 I would like to make.
· Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded I~y Councilman St0utenburgh,
WHEREAS, Mattituck High has received the Newsday "Lon9 Island High School
of the Year for Community Service Award," and
WHEREAS, the Mattituck High School students, to qualify for this coveted award,
participated in community service programs, the finest ever seen by Newsday
President R~obert- M. ~Johnson, and
WHEREAS, the students gave of themselves, ~their-time and their energiesr by
particiPating in 'such projects as: Human Understanding and Growth Seminar
(HUGS), which encourages students to help each other and to learn about the
devastating effects of alcohol and drug abuse and provides activities to divert
them from the abuse of alcohol and drugs; the "Rodney Bates Fund," by sponsor-
ing several "Rodney Bates Days" at the school r a Halloween Dance, and a 3.1
mile "Run for Rodney;" and as an outgrowth of the Rodney Bates Fund, they
ran a "Ronald McDonald House Week," in which more than 450 toys and other
items were collected for the hospice housing families of cancer patients where
Rodney had stayed, and
WHEREAS, these .outstanding students of the Mattituck High School contributed
to the community by, coordinating holiday food drives for CAST, Community Action
for Southold Town, 'by initiating a school beautification project, by working with
the Suffolk County Mental Health Association to further its aims of promoting
mental health, and by sponsoring a "Jum for Your Heart" jump rope marathon
for the American Heart Association, and~ -.-.
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Sout~old wishes to recognize, with
pride, the Mattituck High School F and to make the communities in Southold Town
aware of the accomplishments theSe fine students, their counselors, and the
faculty of Mattituck High School, now; therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby commends and
applauds the MATTITUCK HIGH SCHOOL for achieving, through dedicat~ion and
energetic enthusiasm, the coveted LONG ISLAND HIGH SCHOOL OF THE YEAR
FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE AWARD.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I might comment on this. I was invited by the Student
Council to represent the Town and we gave a proclamation to the school program
on last Friday. The President of Newsday, Mr. Johnson, was there to give this
award. Ken LaValle was there and it was a very nice, tremendous award, and a
nice pat on the back for the kids of Southold Town. These kids did a tremendous
amount all year long and so often we're quick to yell at kids and always blame them
for different things, and the program that Mattituck has and has since been expanded
into Greenport and to Southold and is going throughout the Island on drug and
alcohol awareness. The older kids in the school actually go down into the grade
school, the real young kids, and start talking to them one on one, making them
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aware of these problems, what coulI~!~ihap~2~;~!~ yOU,. and why you should not do
this. It's been .a..p, rog.ram that's .!.,°e?n[.du~'t!~?,' ail'aro.und, th, e. f~Uk~rsY' iatn~te~ey'
is fantastic, ancl .t s n.ce to see ma~ ~ne K~C~S aO care aoou~ o~n , y
do go out of their way to help them. Any other comments? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
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SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 9 is to set a public hearing.
Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board. of the Town of Southold hereby sets Tuesday,
July 17, 1984~, Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York, as date and
place for public ' hearings on the followin9 petitions for relief from the Bulk
requirements of the Zonin9 Code pursuant to I~ocal Law No. 11 - 1983:
8:00 P.M. - in the matter of the petition of Edward J. Nalbantian and Charles
A. Nalbantian, with referenceIo proposed major subdivision known as Oregon
Heights, bounded by Reeve Avenue, Bailie Beach Road, Harborview Avenue,
and East Side Avenue, Mattituck, New York.
8:05 P.M. - In the matter of the petition of Bi~isc0e-'R. Smith:;, With reference
to prbposed minor subdivision located on the west side of Equestrian Avenue,
Fishers Island, New York.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was 'declared duly !ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR' MURPHY: Number ~1i0 1 believe the Board wants to hold this un~]l
we get information from the DEC, icorrect? .(Application of Matt-A-Mar for a Wet-
land Permit.)
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Yes.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any problems with it.* We want to find out who was
lead agency on this so automatically we're going to hold No. 11 also. ~Number 12
are we ready to act on?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Yes, I am.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Would you like to offer it?
Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that pursuant to Article 8 of the Environmental Conservation
law State Environmental Quality Review and 6NYCRR Part 617, Section
617.10 and Chapter 44 of the Code of the Town of Southold, notice is
hereby given that the'Southold Town Board, as lead agency for the action
described below, has determined that the project, which is unlisted, will
not have a significant effect on the environment.
Description of Action: Application of Costello Marine Contracting Corp., on
behalf of Alvah Jr., Bruce and Allen Goldsmith for a Wetland Permit to construct
bulkhead on property located at west side of Hobart Road, at Town Creek,
Southold, New York.
The project has been determined not to have a significant~ effect on the
environment for the following reasons:
An environmental Assessment has been submitted which indicated that no
significant adverse effect to the environment are likely to occur should the
project be implemented as planned.
Because there has been a response from the Board of Southold Town
Trustee and Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council indicating that
this project would not have a significant effect on the environment.
Because there has been no response in the allotted time from the New
York State Department of EnvirOnmental Conservation and the Southold'Town
Building Department, it is assumed that there are no objections nor comments
from those agencies. ~
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions on it?
COUNCi~VIAN STOUTENBURGH: Before I vote I would like to state--which is
a long strong feeling--that we are giving away the rights of people by putting
bulkheads in front of other bulkheads, and the only way I can across this is
to vote "no" on this, and so I will vote "no" on this application.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. No: Councilman
Stoutenburgh.
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SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 13 to grant or deny pension-to Goldsmith.
Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran,
WHEREAS, Costello Marine Contractin9 Corp., on behalf of Alvah Jr. · Bruce
and Allen Goldsmith, applied to the SoUthold Town Board for a permit under
the provisions of the Wetland Ordinance of the Town of Southold, application
dated April 2, 1984~ and
WHEREAS, said application was referred to the Southold Town Trustees and
Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council for their findings and recommenda-
tions, and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held by the Town Board with respect to said
application on the 22nd day of May, ,1984, at which time all interested persons
were given an opportunity to be heard, now, thereforet be it
RESOLVED that Costello Marine Contr.actin9 Corp., on behalf of Alvah ~lr.,
Bruce and Allen Goldsmith, be 9ranted permission under the provisions of the
Wetland Ordinance of the Town of Southold to construct bulkhead directly in
front of existing, deteriorated bulkhead, at the west side of Hobart Road, on
Town Creek, Southold, New York, PROVIDED that in the future, replacement
be 'done in place. This permit shall expire on June 5, .1985 if work has not
commenced by said date; there, shall be two inspections required; and the Town
Clerk shall be notified when the project is. completed.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions?
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: I'd like to- comment.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: I think this was discussed and what Paul was
talking about before was the procedure of putting a bulkhead in front of ~
another bulkhead if the existing bulkhead was deteriorated. May people do
not want to pull out the old bulkheadt or build behind that bulkhead because
it apparently costs more money and requires more work. I feel .that first of--~
all in many instances it would be a long and painful process to significantly
increase the size of your property by every twenty or thirty years moving a
bulkhead out 18 inches, but Paul's point is well taken, and I think that perhaps
we should set up a guideline for this sort of thing which is universally, or at
least applicable Town-wide, on a procedure on how bulkheads are to be replaced.
That way we would make it a moot i~oint if there was a iorocedure that' was
established and put into the Trustees' body of law.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: May I make a comment?
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Certainly.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: This particular bulkhead is not being moved out
18 inches. It's being attached tight against the existing bulkhead~
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any other, comments? (No response.)
Vote of the Town .Board: ~ Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I thank.you for your .support, Joe, No.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 14 is an environmental assessment on another
application and I~believe we would Ilke to hold this until we find out who is the
lead agency. So we will hold Number .15 also.: Any objections? (No response.)
(Re: applicastion of The Land Use Company on behalf of Edward Quintieri and
Richard Pulcini for a Wetland Permit.)
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, Numbe~ 16 is lead agency.
Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was~~
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby declares itself
lead agency ir. regar~ to the State I~nvironmental Quality REview Act in the
matter of the petition of Reynold F. Blum for a change of zone from "A"~Residential
and Agricultural District to "B-I" General Business District on certain property
located on the southerly side of Main (State Route 25) Road, 520 'feet east of
Stillwater Avenue, Cutchogue, New York.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)- ~-
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran~ Councilman Schondebare· Council-
man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This reso-lution was declared duly ADOPTED.
MURPHY: Number 17 is to transmit this petition.
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Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded l~i~CO'~cilman Townsend,
WHEREAS, a petition was received from Reynold F. Blum for a Change of Zone
on certain property located on the southerly side of Main (State Route 25) Road,
§20 feet east of Stillwater Avenue/ Cutchogue, New York, from "A" Residential
and Agricultural District to "B-I" General Business District, now, therefore,
be it
RESOLVED that the Town Clerk of the Town of Southold be and She hereby is
directed to transmit this petition to the Southold Town Plannin9 Board in accord-
ance with Article XV, Section 100-150(B) of the Code of the Town of Southold,
and the Suffolk County Department of Planning, in accordance with the Suffolk
County Charter, requesting their recommendations relative to said petition.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 18 is to allocate funds to the Douglas Moore
Concert.
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Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Supervisor Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby allocates
$500.00, from A7320.'4 Joint Youth Account, to pay expensed incu'rred by the
Douglas Moore Concert Committee for the performance to be held on August 11,
· 1984~ on the Village Green, Cutchogue, New York.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions?
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Yes. As you know, we didn't have a chance to _
discuss this one. I feel that considering we do have such a small budget for
cultural activities, we should have perhaps taken this money and spread it ~
around to some other .activities, because it is a large amount of money for one
event in the Town and we are already giving $500.00 towards that, and I
think that if 'you---
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: This is it.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Oh, l'm sorry, did you change that, because I
know there was an additional request for $500.00. .~
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: No, they requested $1,000.00 and we left ~$500. 00, and
this is what we budgeted.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Oh, $500.00, oh, excuse me.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY': Any other questions~. (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, :Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor -.
Murphy. _
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 19.
Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold 9oes on record as
opposin9 the use of local roads as .access routes for tandem trailer rigs, which
would be highly imPractical and costly if permit~ted witb[6:t~ Town .of. Southold.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY; This is these double tractor and two trailers that you've
probably read in the newspapers they're using on several interstate roads and
now it's filtering down to come into the local road system. The county is Opposed
to it here because of our tremendous population and the potential damage this
would do. It would even be more detrimental to S'outhold Town roads., _ ~'
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, SuperVisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 20 is opposition to a law re. garding cable television.
Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran,
WHEREAS, the United States Congress is actively considerin9 HR 4103, a 'bill that
will remove almost all local control over cable television companies and drastically
change any franchise agreements which are currently in effect; and
WHEREAS, such legislation would deny municipalities the right to regulate a
business which uses the public streets and rights-of-way for installation of cables
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as part of a cable television system, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Southold does deem it imperative that
local control continue to exist with regard to the regulation of cable television
franchises in order to provide proper safeguards in connection with the use of
public highways and to protect the rights of the residents and taxpayers of units
of local government,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold
opposes the aforementioned HR 4103, which would unconscionably remove from local
government the power to regulate its streets and highways and television cabe
franchises; and.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Town Clerk forward a copy of this resolution
to United States Senator Alphonse D'Amato, United States Senator Daniel Patrick
Moynihan, and United States Congressman William Carney.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY:' Number 21 is to appoint a secretary.
21.
Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby-appoints
Diane M. Schultze', effective this 'date, to perform secretarial' services for the
Southold Town Farmland Committee, at a salary of $6.00 per hour.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions?
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Yes. Not a question but a comment.
gets paid on a per meeting basis. I think it's---
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Now we're paying her on a salary..
Presently s~he
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Oh, you're changing it) because presently she"s
getting paid---
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We thought it was better. She wants the withholding
taken out and everything.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: What they were requesting was that she be paid
on a---did you discuss it with--
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Yes.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Originally she was being paid on a $30.00 or whatever
il~'~:is':a meeting, and now---and then also wanted a salary for when she had to do
additional work ....
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: This will cover it all. It"s easier~on bookkeeping an~l
then she will have the deductions taken out of her pay.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: She had nothing taken out of~her pay before.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Right. When you are contracting like that. Any other
questions? (No response.) .
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 22 is to set some public hearings.
22.
Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby sets Tuesday,
June 19, 1984., Southold Town Hallr Main Road, Southold, New York, as date and
place for public hearings on the followin9 applications for permits under ~he pro-
visions of the Wetland Ordinance of the Town of Southold:
3:32 P.M. - In the matter of the application of Enconsultants, Inc., on behalf
of Walter Trappe, for permission to construct dock, catwalk, ramp and float
secured by two pilings, on property located at Corey 'Creek, on the south side
of Corey Creek Lane, Southoldr New York .....
3:35 P.M. - In the matter of the application of George Sweeney to maintenace
dredge an existing boat slip and install timber bulkhead at the end of Mason Drive,
on Haywater Cove, Cutchogue, New York.
3:37 P.M. - In the matter of the application of Costello Marine Contractin9
Corp., on behalf of James B. Ford r for permission to construct bulkhead directly
in front of existing deteriorated bulkhead at Hobart Road, on Town Creek, Southold,
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any question§?''~'~'~'-
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I just want to put in here, you notice we now
have a precedent set here for bulkheads in front.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Numbe~ 23 is to execute a contract.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Frank, someone in the audience--I notice that
it's hard to hear us, so if we could all keep our voices up. They're having
difficulty hearing us.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I'm sorry. Number 23. is to execute a contract on the
Home Aide Program.
23.
24.
Moved by Councilman S-~:hondebare, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes
and directs Supervisor Francis J, Murphy to execute a contract between the
Suffolk County Office for the Aging and the Town of Southold for the Home
Aide Program, for the period April 1, 1984 through March 31, 1985.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? This is a program that we do get
reimbursement on these expenses from the County and we have to voucher.
There was some technicalities that when the County drew up the contract and
sent it to us were wrong. We have since had them straightened out and we
will now be able to voucher for the money that we've had to put up front.
Any other questions? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, -Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 24 is to authorize me to sign a lease with
the Fishers Island Ferry District. ,-
Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes
and directs Supervisor Francis J. Murphy tO execute a lease between the
Fishers Island Ferry District and the Town of Southold for the lease of one
room on the north west corner of the main floor of the Fishers Island Community
Theatre (Building No. 61), south side of Whistler Avenue, Fishers Island, for
the use of the Southold Town Justice on Fishers Island, for the term of May 1,
1984 through December 31, 4985, at the sum of $266.67. for_ the~period May 1,'
1984 through December 31, ;1984, and the sum of $400.00 for the. calendar year
· 1985..
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: This what you want, Judge?
JUSTICE EDWARDS: Sure. Very nice be able to watch movies while you're
holding court.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Do you have to pay to get in?
JUSTICE EDWARDS: Oh, no, no.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: This is right in the movie theatre, right?
JUSTICE EDWARDS: A little corner of it.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: For those of you who don't know, we own~ the
movie theatre.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, CounCilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Towosend, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
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SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 25 is to authorize two employees to attend a
seminar on computers.
25.
Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes
Account Clerks Joan Richter and Mary Bourcet to attend a seminar on "Munis
for New York STate" (comprehensive computer information and accounting system)
to be held at 8:30 A.M., Wednesday, July 18,.,.1984, at the Colonie Hill, Hauppauge,
New York, and the necessary expenses for travel and meals shall be a legal charge
against the Town of Southold.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: CouncilWoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 26 is--you people don't have these last ten,
I guess, resolutions on your agenda, they were added on out of necessity after
this was printed up. Number 26 is the renewal of a house trailer permit.
26.
Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the application of Bauer Farms, Inc. for renewal of their Single
family house trailer permit, which expires on July 4, 1984, for trailer located
at south side of County Road 48r Peconic, New York, be and hereby is ~lranted
for a six ~6) month period.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 27, Paul, why don't you do.
27.
Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Supervisor Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes
the following Budget amendments to the Community Development Year X Program:
Current New ~'
Project
Water Facility,
Construction of
Sump on Lower
Road, Southold
Lakeside Garden
Apartments
Bud~let Increase Decrease Budget
$48,000.00 -0-
$32,000.00 $16,000.00
$32,000.00 -0- $32,000.00
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I might comment. This is a cooperative effort between
Southold Town Board and Greenport Board on providing, again, much needed
housing for Iow income in Greenport. We are helping them on their apar~tment
project that they are building and we're very happy to partake. Any other
questions ?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Yes, I would just like to point out that we've
been advised by our Community Development Officer that there is still enough
money left over to take care of those poor people on Lower Road, correct?
MR. JAMES C. McMAHON, Community Development Director, Town of Southold:
We'll find out at 8:30 tomorrow morning.when we meet with the owner of the
property.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Wait a minute.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We!Il. know tomorrow, Jay.
MR. McMAHON: Our--T
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: The appropriation that we!re leaving in hSre,
the $16,000.00, you told me before that will do it.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Hopefully.
MR. McMAHON: According to our apprbisals, that will do it-. 'We have money
in 'contingencies. One way or another we'll get the property.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: You weren't in here when the follow came in
from LoWer Road and was very upset over the fact. The river goes through
his backyard.
28.
29.
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SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any other comments? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 28 is to establish a petty cash fund.
Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby establishes
a Petty Cash fund in the amount of $50.00 to be used by the Gate Attendants
at the Southold Town Landfill site.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: There is a fifty cent charge for cars going in if they
do not have a free permit 'that they could get from the Town Clerk. If they
found that it wasn't worthwhile to come down and get the permit, they can pay
fifty cents to go in and this~is why this is necessary. Any questions?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Who's going to have the fifty dollars for the
~'etty~cash? · ls"~hat going to be. the 'SulS~rintendent up t~here~ o'~i~s .that~ going
to 'be under the care of the Gate Attendants?
TOWN CLERK TERRY: Gate Attendants, and, of course, they will have to
account for it.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY; When they sell the tickets, Jay, the tickets they
started with--
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: The change. I was wondering who was going
to be responsible for it.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: The Gate Attendant there. It should be a very minor
amount of money each day, hopefully.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, JUstice Edwards, CoUncilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. ~
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 29 is a Local Law No. 6 - authorizing the
Trustees to issue Wetland Permits.
Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Justice Edwards,
WHEREAS, a proposed Local Law No. 8 - 1984 was introduced at a meeting of
this Board held on the 8th day of May, 1984, and
WHEREAS, a public, hearing was held thereon by the Board on the 5th day of
June, 1984, at which time all interested persons were given an opportunity to
be heard thereon,
NOW, THEREFORE~' BE IT RESOLVED that Local Law No. 6'- 1984 be enacted, ..
as corrected, to state in Subdivision A of Section 97-23: "...accompanied by
a filin9 fee of fifty dolla~rs ($50.)...", as follows:
........ LOCAL LAW .NO... 6_ _- _1.984 ........
A Local Law_ in. relation _to authorizing the_ issuance
of Wetland Permits by the Board of Trustees ':'
BE. IT I~NACTED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as .follows:
(additions indicated by underline; deletions by [brackets]).
Chapter 97 (Wetlands) of the Code of--.the Town of Southold is hereby
amended as follows.:
Section 97-13 (Definitions) is amended by adding thereto the following,:
TRUSTEES - The Board of Trustees of the Town of Southold.
BOARD - Unless otherwise indicated shall mean the Board of Trustees of
the Town'~f Southold.
CLERK - Unless otherwise indicated shali mean the Clerk of the Board of
Trustees.
II. Section 97-20 (Permits Required) is amended to read as follows:
Notwithstanding any prior course of conduct or permission granted, no
person shall conduct operations on any wetlands in the Town of Southold
unless he shall 'first obtain a written permit therefor issued by authority
of the [Town Board] Trustees as hereinafter provided, and only while
such permit remains in effect.
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/11. The first paragraph of Section 97-21 (Application) is amended to read as
follows:
IV.
A permit may be issued upon the written, verified application of the
person proposing to perform operations on wetlands. The application
shall be submitted to the [Town] Clerk in quadruplicate. Such
application shall contain the following information:
Section 97-22 (Waiver of Certain Requirements) is amended to read as
follows:
The [ToWn Board] Trustees, upon request of the applicant for a permit,
may waive, in whole or in part, the provisions of Article Ii, Section
97-21 D and O, where it finds that the nature of the proposed
operations is such that the requirements of such provisions are not
necessary for a proper consideration of a permit application.
Subdivision A and B of Section 97-23 (Fees) are amended to read as
follows:
Every application for a permit filed with the [Town] Clerk shall be
accompanied by.a filing fee of -fifty dollars ($50.), . no portion
of which"sh~ll be refundable.
B. In addition to the filing fee, the [Town Board] Trustees,. upon the
adoption of a resolution authorizing the issuance of ape. rmit,_shall
determine the amount of the inspection fees to be paid by the
.applicant to the [Town]. Clerk upon the issuance of a permit, in
accordance with Section 97-~25C hereof. ~
VI. Subdivisions A, B and C of Section 97-24 (Processing of Applications)
are amended to read as follows!
A. Investigation. Upon receipt of the application, the [Town] Clerk
shall forward one (1) copy thereof to the Conservation Advisory
..Council and one (1) copy to the [Town] Trustees [and one (1)
Copy to t-*h--~--Town Board]. The Conservation Advisory Council [and
..the Town Trustees] shall-[each] review said application .and the
effect, if any, on the wetlands and tidal waters of the Wwn that
may result from the proposed operations, and shall, within twenty
(20) days of receipt of the same, forward its written- report of
findings and recommendations with respect to such application to
the [Town Board] Trustees. If the Conservation Advisory Council
[or the Town Trustees] shall recommend that such application be
disapproved, the reasons for such disapproval' shall be set forth in
such .report.
B. Hearing...Upon receipt by the [Town Board] Trustees of the
report[s] of the' Conservation Advisory CounCil '[and the Town
Trustees], [the Town Board] the Trustees :shall hold a .public
hearing on such application upon not less than ten (10) days'
-notice, to be published in one (1) or more newspapers having a
general circulation in the town.
C. Action. Within thirty (30) days after the public hearing on such
applicatioo, the [Town Board] Trustees shall either adopt_ a
resolution directing the issuance of a permit or adopt a resolution
denying the application therefor. A resolution direCting the
issuance of a permit'may be adopted only if the [Town Board]
Trustees find[s] that the proposed operations will conform 'to the
standards set forth in Section 97-28 hereof. If the [Town Board]
Trustees adopt[s] a resolution denying an application for a permit,
~the reasons for such denial shall be set forth in such resOlution.
In the event that the [To~n' Board] Trustees shall fail to act on
such application within the time prescribed her~in, such application
shall be deemed to have been apl~roved and the [Town] Clerk shall
issue a permit__aut_horiz'ing the operations applied for.
VII. The first paragraph of Section 97-25 (Issuance of Permit; cond~ions;
inspection fees) is hereby amended to read as follows:
The [Town Board] Trustees may, upon the adoption of a resolution
directing the issuance of a permit:
VIII. Section 97-26 (Liability insurance) is hereby amended to read as
follows:
The applicant for a permit hereunder shall, before the issuance of said
permit by _the [Town] Clerk, 'file with the [Town] Clerk a certificate
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that the applicant has public liability insurance policies insuring against
any liability which may arise in the performance of the operations
pursuant to such permit in such amount as shall be fixed by the [Town
Board] Trusteesr which said policies shall name the town as a named
insured.
IX. The first unlettered paragraph and subdivisions C 'and E of Section
97-27 (Contents of permit) are amended to read as follows: ~
Each permit issued hereunder by the [Town] Clerk pursuant to a
[Town Boardl resolution of the Trustees shall state the following:
The conditions imposed by the [Town Board] Trustees on the
issuance of the permit.
A statement that "The validity of this permit is or may be subject
to the approval of other governmental or municipal authorities. The
town accepts no responsibility in applying for or obtaining such
approval. In the event that such approval is necessary, the holder
of this permit shall not commence operations hereunder until such
approval has been obtained in writing. The failure to obtain such
other approval when required shall subject this permit to immediate
- revocation by the [Town] Clerk upon receipt by the [Town] Clerk
of written notice from such other governmental or municipal
authorities of its refusal or disapproval." Acceptance of the permit
is acceptance of this condition.
The first paragraph of Section 97-28 (Standards) is amended to read as
follows:
The [Town Board] Trustees may adopt a resolution directing the
issuance of a permit to perform operations applied for only if-'it
determines that such operations will not substantially:
XI. Section 97-29 (Transferability) is amended to read as follows:
A permit issued pursuant hereto-shall 'not be transferred o~' assigned
without the prior approval of the [Town Board] Trustees.
XII. Subdivision B of Section 97-31 (Notice of violation) is amended to read
as follows: -.
B. Such notice shall be in writing, shall specify the Violation and
shall state the conditions which must be complied with and the time
within, which compliance must be completed before operations' may
be resumed. Such notice shall also inform the person to whom it is
directed of his r.ight to apply for a hearing before the [Town
Board] Trustees, as. hereinafter provided..
Xlll. Section 97-32 (Hearing on. violation) is amended to read as follows:
A. Any person affected b~ a notice of violation issued pursuant to the~ ....
preceding section hereof may request and shall be granted a
hearing before the [Town Board] Trustees, provided that such
person shall file a written request therefor with the [Town] Clerk
within ten (10)-days after service of the notice of violation. Such
'request shall have annexed thereto a copy of the notice of
Violation upon which'a hearing is requested and shall set forth the
reasons why such notice of violation should be modified or
rescinded.
B. The [TOwn] Clerk ~shall present such request to the [Town Board]
Trustees at its next regular meeting. The [Town Board] Trustees
shall set a 'time and place for such hearing and shall give the
person requesting the same at least five (5) days' notice of the
time and place thereof.
C. At such hearing, the person requesting the same, or his
representative, shall be given an opportunity to show cause why
.such notice of violation should be modified or rescinded, rAfter
such hearing, the [Town Board] Trustees may sustain, modify or
rescind such notice of violation, or revoke any permit~prev~ously
issued, and shall specify the reasons therefor.
The notice of violation for which a hearing is' requested shall
continue in effect pending the hearing and determination of the
[Town Board] Trustees.
XIV. Subdivision A of Section 97-33 (Penalties for offenses) is repealed and
the following_is substituted in its place.
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30.
31.
A. For each offense acjainst any of the provisions of this chapter or
any regulations made pursuant .thereto, or failure to. comply, with a
written notice or order of .any Building. !nspector within the time
fixed for compliance therewith,, the. owner, occupant, b~iider,
architect, contractor or their agents or. any other person who
commits,, takes .part or.-assists, in .the commission .of any such
offense or who _shall..fail..to comply with a .written .order or notice
of any Building Inspector,. shall ,' . upon a first conviction thereof,'
be guilty of a ~iolation. punishable .b~. a .fine of.not exceeding, five
hundred.dollars or imprisonment, for a. period, not .to exceed fifteen
(15) days, or both.. Each .day on which such:violation, shall .occur
shall constitute, a .separate; .additional .offAnse. For a secon'd and
' subsequent conviction., within eighteen" months, thereafter, such
person Shall 'be guilty, of a. vio~ati~)n .punishable' b~, a fine not
exceeding 'one thousand .five. hbndred..do!lars,, or imp~'isonment'for
. a .period not to exceed fifteen (15) days, or both such fine and
imprisonment.
XV. Subdivision B of Section 97-33 (Penalties for offenses) is amended to
read as follows:
B. In addition to. the above-provided penalties, the [Town Board]
Trustees may also ,if authoriz, ed by...the.Town Board, maintain an
action or'-proceeding in the name of the town in a court of
competent jurisdiction to compel compliance with or to restrain by
injunction the violation of this chapter.
This Local"Law shall take .effect upon its filing with the Secretary of
State, except that the provisions of this chapter, as amended by this
Local Law, 'shall take effect on and after the first day of the secorid
month after the effective date of this Local Law, and shall 'be applicable
to all applications for wetland permits'filed on and after such date.
All applications for Wetland permits filed prior to the first day of the
second month after .the.' effective date Of this Local Law shall 'be
governed by the provisions of this chapter in effect immediately prior
to the effective date of_th{s Local Law.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Coupcilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy. ' ~
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 30 is to be offered by Councilman Stoutenburgh.
Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, 'it was
RESOLVED that the Town BOard of the Town of Southold hereby rescinds their
Resolution No. 15(B) adopted on January 31, 1984, authorizing the purchase of
4-6 mm clams and 6-8 mm clams from the Shinnecock Tribal Oyster Project,
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Southampton, -New York, at a total cost of $1,868.00.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY; I might comment'on this, this was we were participating
with the oyster project that they have in Southampton and they ran into some
problems with their oysters and were not able to grow the seed clams, so we have
to cancel our order, they can't deliver, and we have to go back up to Massachusetts
and buy. Any other questions?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I might add that they were gracious enough to
call us and they COuld project their problems and told us that we should go some-
place else because they were not working right and I think they appreciated our
support, but I think they were good enough to:let us know that they couldn't
complete it.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank' you.. Any other questions or comments? (No
response.-)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman S~:hondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy. -
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 31, Paul?
Mo~ed_by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RES0'LVI~D tha~.the Town Board of the Town of South01d hereby authorizes the
purchase of the followin~l clams from Aquacultural Research .Corporation, Dennis,
Massachusetts, the same to be paid from Community Development Funds:
118,000 6-8 mm clams @ $17.00 per 1000--r ........ $2,006.00
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
32.
33.
33.
35.
36.
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Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: CounCilwOman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 32 is to rebid.
Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Clerk of the .Town of Southold be and she hereby is
authorized and directed to advertise for bids for the purchase of one (1) 1971
Central Engineerin~ Vac-AII Model E-513, mounted on one (1) 1971 Ford Model
/N 900 cab and chassis, or equal.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY:' Number 33 is to hire another Gate Attendant.
Moved by Supervisor Murphyf seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Gene
P. DiPeri as a part-time Gate Attendant at the Southold Town Landfill Site,
effective immediately, at a salary of $5.00 per hour.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
M u rphy. ~
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Jean, want to read Resolution No. 34?
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: You going to let me get a resolution here, huh,
fellows? Okay..
Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby offi,cially
designates that road between Main Bayview Road and North Bayview Road,
Southold, New York, as CEDAR DRIVE.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY;
Vote of the Town Board:
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
Any questions? (No response.)
Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Jean, how about doing another one.
COUNClLWOMAN,,COCHRAN: Sure, I'd love to.
Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED ,that the Town Board, of the Town of Southold hereby determines that
the sum of $10,000.00 shall be deposited by the Town, in lieu of reservation of
land for a park and playground in the major subdivision known as "Constantine
Geor~liopoulos at Southold~"
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? ('l~lo'response.)
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy. ~ -'
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: How about 36 too, Jean.
Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board ol~ the Town of Southold hereby authorizes
and directs Supervisor Francis J. Murphy to place a legal notice in The Suffolk
Times and The Li~ng Island Traveler-Watchman notifyinc~l the public that the last
day for acceptance of offers for the sale of development rights tO the Town of
Southold from farmland owners within the Town is Monday, July 2, 1984 until
11:00 A.M.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions?
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37.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 37~is to seek proposals from appraisers.
Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of SoUthold hereby authorizes
and directs Supervisor Francis J. Murphy to place a legal notice in The Lon9
Island Traveler-Watchman seekin9 proposals for appraisal services to appraise
parcels of land offered to the Town of Southold under the Southold Town
38.
Acquisition of Development Rights in Agricultural Lands Law.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 38 is the order to increase the maximum amount
proposed to be expended for improvements in the Southold Wastewater Disposal
District.
Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Councilman Townsend,
in the Matter
of :
The Increase in the Maximum Amount :
proposed to be expended for improve- :
ments in the SOUTHOLD WASTEWATER :
DISPOSAL DISTRICT, in the Town of
Southold, Suffolk County, New York "
:
· ORDER INCREASING THE MAXIMUM
AMOUNT PROPOSED TO BE EXPENDED
FOR IMPROVEMENTS IN THE SOUTHOLD
WASTEWATER DISPOSAL DISTRIC.T
WHEREAS, the South~ld Wastewater Disposal District was duly established
by a final order of this board adopted on the 15th day of February, 1983, and
amended by an amended final order adopted on the 24th day of May, rkJ83, and
WHEREAS, the maximum amount proposed to be expended for the improve-
ment in said district, as stated in the notice of public hearing on the establish-
ment of said district, was $1,877,000., and
WHEREAS, on February 21, .1984, bids were received by the town board
for the construction of the. improvement in sa_id district, to consist of the
construction of a scavenger waste pretreatment facility, which bids were in the
total amount of $2,103,753., and which, when added to the engineering, legal,
administrative, interest and contingency costs incidental to the construction of
such facility, increased the total cost of construction such facility to $2,632,204,,
and
WHEREAS, Section 209-h of the Town Law provides that after an improvemeo.t
district has been established, upon the approval by the Comptroller of the State
of New York, the maximum amount proposed to be expended for the improvement
in such district may be increased by an order of the town board after a public
hearing, which order shall be subject to a permissive referendum, and
WHEREAS, by order of the Comptroller of the State of New York approved
an increase in the maximum amount proposed to be expended for the improvement
in said districl~ from the amount of $1,877,000. to the amount of $2,632,204., a copy
of said order having been filed in the Southold Town Clerk's Office, and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held for the purpose of considering the
matter of increasing the maximum amount' pi~6'posed to be expended for the improve-
ment in said district from the amount of $1,877,000. to the amount of $2,63~,204.
NOW, THEREFORE, IT IS HEREBY ORDERED AND DETERMINED AS FOLLOWS:
1. That it is in the public interest to increase the maximum amount proposed
to be expended for the improvement to be- constructed in the Southold Wastewater
Disposal District from the amount of $1,877,000. to the amount of $2,632,204.
2. That this Order is subject to a permissive referendum as provided in
Section 209-e of the Town Law.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Scho~debare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy,
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY; That's the end of~our prepared and ~amended agenda.
At this time I would like the members of the Town Board to ask if they have
anything further to say? Councilman Schondebare?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE.' No, nothing.
SUPERVISOR MURP~IY: Joe?
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: No, Frank.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Paul?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Nope.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Jean?
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Nothing, thank you.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Ray?
JUSTICE EDWARDS: Nothing, thank you.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: At this time I would like to ask anyone in the audience
if they would like to address the Board? Please use the mike and give your name
so we could have it as part of the record.
MRS. EDITH CROSLEY, DriftWood Cove, Greenport: Good evening. I am Edith
Crosley and live in the DriftWood Cove Apartments located at Ninth and Front
Street in the unincorporated area of the Town of Southold. I appear before you
as a spokesman for the residents of Driftwood Cove, some of whom are here this
evening. Will the residents who .are here this evening from DriftWood Cove please
identify yourselves (approximately 25 people were present). Of vital concern to
ali of us is 'the proposed conversion of the Driftwood Apartments to cooperative
ownership. Formal announcement of this fact was made known to us this Friday
when Mr. Lewis Edson, present manager of the Driftwood Cove, delivered to each
tenant a copy of the original conversion proposal already submitted to the New
York State Attorney General's Office. The first words we read at the top of~ the
copy were.a little shattering, in quote, "this is an eviction plan. Inlthe even~t
the buildings are converted to. cooperative ownership, non-purchasing tenants
will be evicted for failUre to purchase their apartments, see pages 29 through~
30 details concerning the five year-moratorium on eviction proceedings granted
to eligible senior citizens and eligible disabled persons." Page 30 revealed that
an elderly senio~ citizen is one who is a non-purchasing tenant of record on the
-acceptance date of this plan by the Attorney General's Office, and who, including.
their spouse, elected not to purchase their apartment within sixty days from the
date the plan was accepted by the Attorney General's Office. Eligibl~-disabled
persons are those with a medically sanctioned permanent impairment who have
elected within the same time period, heretofore mentioned, to become non-purchasing
tenants. It must be apparent that those residents under sixty-two, who Chose
not to purchase their apartments, will be subject to eviction after the sixty day
grace. It is noted that within the five year moratorium renewal leases will be
offered to eligible senior citizens and eligible disabled persons when their leases
expire, thereby hangs the rub. For instance, in a letter received from the HX
Construction Company on May 23rd, 1983, they announced to the tenants that
the present rent for the smaller apartments were going to go from $265.00 to
$295.00. The larger apartments were going to go from $305.00 to $340.00. On
May 7th, 1984'we all received a letter that the present ren. t was going ·from
$295.00 to $340.00 and bigger apartments were going from $340.00 to $395.00.
We know that the recently passed New York State Stabilization Bill does not
cover towns in .Suffolk County. We also knoW that the recent Home Rule
Resolution proposed by the Suffolk County Legislature to the State, requesting
that Suffolk County be brought under the State Rent Stabilization, was defeated
by one vote in the County Legislature. With governmental protection regarding
rent 'control, we are-fearful that come each lease renewal time our rents will'
spiral way beyond our financial needs. This would nullify, I think, or we thi.nk,
the five year moratorium for senior and disabled citiZens living in Driftwood Cove.
Or, not meeting one, s rent each month wil! lead to eviction. This .will add to·a
further trumatic experience of' seeking affordable housing elsewhere in Southold
Town. Supervisor Murphy and Councilpersons, you and we are accutely aware
of the critical shortage.of affordable housing in Southold Town. We, therefore,
request'of you serious consideration and prompt action to seek ways and means
to create the much needed housing.. A possible suggestion is to use Community
Development moneys, along with.Revenue Sharing money, to acquire tracts of~
available land in the Town on ~hiC~h Federally spo~sare~ Sect~o~ 202 housing for
the elderly and 515'multi-family haus~ng C(~nt¥ C~nSo~ium. Thank You.~very
much.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, Edit. 1 would like to just mention to the
Town Board and the people ou~ here~.that after our meeting today, wh~ w~
finished up, it Was after 5:O~0-o~10ck, there was a call from Asm'~'b'l~jman~
Hochbrueck~r's ~ffice, an~ he is sending out to.Southold ~o~n ~ J~r~-
tio~. · ~!. i~agJne, Edie, you must have contacted h~m-~-
MRS. CROSLEY: Yes, I did.
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SUPERVISOR MURPHY: And he is sending out some information on this law that
you were talking about, and also there is something where the Attorney General
will look into the possibility of not allowing such exorbitant rent increases unless
they were really documented and needed. So, this is the start of what we can do.
Is there anyone else in the audience would like to make any comments to the Town
Boa rd ?
MRS. RUTH OLIVA: Our faithful little following down here, during Work Session,
would like to ask Councilman Schondebare how his contest is coming along for the
Sout hold Banner?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: You mean our seal? The school will'be notified
and the students will participate hopefully, and so will the rest of the Town
people. Although I understand that there is some people who would like to
have it just one person to determine who's going to have the banner and what
the banner shall look like. But so far I'm determined to have the Town's people
have a voice in it.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: In .the back, sir?
MR. JOHN GEISSMAN, Driftwood Cove: It's in reference to the problem she
talked about in Driftwood Cove and the senior citizens. The people that h~ave
rent increases Will get them as usual as they've been getting them, and it doesn't
apply to--it applies to all people there, where some can make it and some can't,
but if-there could be some way under this new thing, the- Attorney General, could
it be done for two years or three years the same, or some such figure, of a lease
arrangement that it could be handled that way. That was the most easily done in
the past. Maybe it could be done that way now.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: '! think maybe as soon as we get this information from
the Assemblyman's Office, we'll work with our local Assemblyman also, and with
our Town Attorney, and see what we can do. ~
MR. GEISSMAN: One further thing~ is the Code, the Building Code, does that
allow multi-dwellings of that sort in the area? I know there are condominiums,
does it allow the co~pp?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I don't know, we would have to research tha;~ I couldn't
tell you off the top of my head. Bob, would you have any idea?
TOWN ATTORNEY .TASKER: Our. Zoning Code makes no distinction' as tO the
type of ownership of multi-dwelling units. In other words, what we do is regulate
the number of units on a particUlar acre of land, whether they'reco-op.,.whether
they're individual,.-or whether they're condominium. The Code does not not
make a distinction as to the. type of ownership.
MR. GEISSMAN: So there can be twenty stories high, or ten stories high?
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: No, I didn't say that. YOU talked about co-ops.
Our Code makes no distinction' as to the method by which these units a're owned~-
It does have limitations as to the number of units per acre, the height, the size
of the yards, the setbacks, and all of the other Bulk requirements. But we don't
legislate the type of ownership.
MR. GEISSMAN: Thank you.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, John. Edie?
MRS. CROSLEY: It was pointed out unde~..,ge.neral information in the letter I.
sent from Mr. Halpern, and ii says here, "There is some question about the
zoning and use of the property. The complete records could not be located at
the Building Department."
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you. Any other comments? Frank?
MR. FRANK BEAR, Southold: My name is ~rank Bear. One item in thee Agenda
refers to-~Numberg--petitions for relief from the Bulk requirements of the Zoning
Code, and so forth. Mr. Tasker just referred to the Bulk requirements ~gain.
I'd be will~ng to be~ you that in' this crowd, including me, there's not more than
~one or two people knows what~'~hat is all about. I see it in the legal advertising
~h~of~ten. The reason ~ bring this-up ~s not wholely because we don't know
what tha~., b~t because ! attended, recently, a meeting in Cutchogue ..
conducted by ~,'~n~ew organization called SOS, object~n§~eacrof~ situation.
People there compiain~at they couldn't read the legals, couldn't u~nderstand the
legals, and what it was ai~ ~.~u~t. I thought it might be helpful now if we could
get an explanation of what Bu~k~&rements are, and two, after that~ there's
something I like to make a suggestion.
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TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: All right,,,, .~Zgning .Code, rather than every instance
of every particular type of use specifyi'ng'i~'''(he text of the Code the size of the
lot, the size Of the building, the front yard, the rear yard, the side yards, the
percentage of lot coverage, the number of parking spaces and all of these things,
which are called Bulk because they regulate the Bulk use of the property. This
is al,I put in one big section, in columns, and it says, minimum size lot in one zone,
so many square feet. Front yard setbacks, so many feet. Rear yard setbacks,
so many feet. One side yard, so many feet. Both side yards, a total of so many
feet. The percentage of lot coverage. The size of the dwelling unit, the square
feet. The number of parking spaces that must be. These are all set forth in
columns, in one schedule, and .it'S referred to as the Bulk Schedule, and through
the Code it says, in each use district, that the use of the property in each district
must conform to the bulk schedule. And you go back to the last page in the Code
and all of these columns are set forth for every single use district, and that's the
Bulk Schedule. We felt it was easier to set it up in:columns, referred to by the
districts, and listing all of these things in order, ratheE than scatter them all
through the whole Code, and.that's the way it's been. So all you have to do is
pick up the Code, and wherever it refers to the Bulk Schedule, go back to the
last page of the Zoning Code and there they are.
MR. BEAR: Thank you very much. Where is this Zoning Code available.and how---
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: The Zoning Code is a public record. It's in the
Town Code. The Code Books and sections are available to the public to purchase.
MR. BEAR: For how much?
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: Each particUlar chapter is broken down into different
costs and the costs are determined on the amount it cost the Town to have them
published so that the Code has some 75 Chapters. A, chapter is a portion oCthe
Code relating to a particular thing. The Zoning Code part of it is Chapter 1'00.
Now, to buy--I think the Town Clerk could tell you what, to buy the whole Zoning
Code--price.
TOWN CLERK TERRY; The entire Code of the Town of Southold is $110.'00. It
contains every ordinance or regulation in the Town. The Zoning Ordinance, Frank,
is $7.00, and may be purchased in my office any time---plus tax.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Of course you'd have to buy it~to see it.-*'
TOWN CLERK TERRY: You are welcome to come in and look at it and make'your
decision whether you would like to buy it or not.
MR. BEAR: Now you see how simple this is..
TOWN CLERK TERRY: Yes, it is.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: It's really not that complex I don't think.
MR. BEAR: Not to 8 lawyer, no.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: I mean to anybody. If you want to know what the
Zoning regulation is, you can go to the Town Clerk and she'll say, !'Here lit' is."
Now, if you want this to take home with you, give me $7.00, and it's a nicely
bound little booklet, and it's yours. Now, I think the Zoning Code is the most
expensive Chapter in your Code. Some of them are only six or eight pages, and
they're probably a $1.00.
MR. BEAR: i wonder, in the next legal ad you could have a.'~sterisk beside the
word "Bulk" and down at the end explain this the same as you have.
TOWN CLERK 'TERRY: ·That
Town.
would be rather difficult, and very costly to the
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: That Would be difficult because it took me five
minutes to explain it to you.
MR. BEAR: That's my point. Exactly my point---
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: I don't think it's that complex for anybody that
looks at it. Now, if you do not wish to look at it, if you don't want to take
the time, if you don't want to familiarize' yourself with the laws of the Town,
that is not, [don~t think, anybody's fault but yours. ' '-
MR. BEAR: I think you know, Bob, that I have familiarized myself with the
laws of this .Town 'and what goes on here. But my point is, and when you see
this word in a legal ad, the people who 'read it, if they read it, and today we
had one legal ad that literally was about that long, the people read that and
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they are looking for something particular that they maybe interested in,. or just
want to find out if something's going on, the people do not know what that means~
and I think the people of this Town have a right to know what these things mean.
Now, I have a suggestion to make, maybe it's a good one, maybe it's a Iousey
one, but it seems to me that if we have public hearings coming up, such as the
ones that are mentioned, in tonight's Agenda, thai it 'might be worthwhile for the
benefit of the people of this Town, to have a news release, sent out to the' news-
papers, saying, "There is going to be a public hearing on such and such a zone
change," write it in English so people can understand it and have it in the paper
each week, Thank you.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: If you did that, you would create a legal problem,
because you may not clearly explain it in this news release, in which event you're
going to have a legal problem as to whether or not you did give proper notice~
and so we do it in the. form that is legally approved by the courts. Now, otherwise;
we're going to be subjected' to law suits for improper notice.
MR. BEAR: Suppose the newspaper came along and asked for the information
and printed it themselves? That wouldn't be---
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: That's not an official notice. That's the newspapers
version.
MR. BEAR: I'm not suggesting official notice. All I'm suggesting is'[he news
release would tell people---
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: But if the Town did this, it would then be an
official notice.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Excuse me. ! think we brought this up once
before. What we're saying-'--
MR. BEAR: I don't say to do this instead of the legal notices. -~
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: No, absolutely not.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: Excuse me,.. Frank. Are you aware that the newspapers
call my office each week'to ask for what meetings are being held and what hearings
are being held and they put its-if you will notice in The Suffolk TEmes--.ns~de of
page 2 there's a column there that lists all .the Town meetings and anything of
interest.
MR. BEAR: I'm quite aware o~ that. I see it every week. But that doesn't
explain what it's all about. People don't understand. Joe had something he
wanted to say.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Well~ basically, what I was saying is I think it, s also--
while I'm not opposed to doing what you're saying, if 'it doesn't present a legal
problem--I think it's also an obligation of the newspapers to do that. I think
that they've got to analyze' what's coming up. They get the legals, they certainly
should read them,'-and perhaps they could do a capsule synopsis of important
hearing and zone changes that would come up and I would be happy to see such
a thing.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I have spoken--I think~we spoke with Judy on
this one or two meetings ago. That we're.not saying to take away. I don!t' think
that this is what you're saying, Frank. We say the legal notice has to be there,
but it could be' at the top a synopsis~of it, which the average person could read
and say, this is what's.going on, and then...th..e_l~gal.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: If you do that, Paul, you are confusing. BeCause,
if the
got a
these
as to
down
caption or the synposis 'is at variance with what's in the legal notice you've ~--~.
problem.' Now, we're putting the notice in the way the courts have approved
things. Now, ! think that the purpose of the notice, if you have some doubt
what it means, what the notice does is put you on notice to inquire, Come
to the Town Hall~
TOWN CLERK TERRY: Call me, people call:me every day to inquire about public
notices or articles in the newspaper concerning the Town.
MR. BEAR: This doesn't help the people understand what's going and i realize
as an attorney you've been in this 'all of his live can see it the way you do, Bob,
I'm not arguing with you, but the average person, the average person reading
the newspaper, the average voter, the average citizen, is not going to be able
to understand and if you see it in a news story, where he can read it, where
there's a headline on it and he can read it and understand what it says, then
he may be willing to come out to a public hearing or go to a meeting that has
something about it, but the way it's done now, it's completely, confusing, completely
un-understable and-it just doesn't work..
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TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: I' think ,th.a.t the notice that you're talking about
was, i think, just about as clear as an~l~"~:0uld make it. It says, "Notice is
given that a hearing will be held on the matter of changing the zone of the
following described property from "A" Residential and Agricultural Use District
to "M" Multiple Residence District, and then it describes the property by a metes
and bounds legal description. And then indicated to you when and where the
hearing will be held. I don't know how much clearer you can make it.
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MR. BEAR: ! can write a lot clearer than that.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Anyone else? Jean?
MRS. JEAN TIEDKE: I think the problem is exactly what Bob was saying, the
metes and the bounds. You read so many degrees this way, so many degrees
that way and it goes on and on and on. I should think it 'would be possible to
say, "this property is located at the west side of such and such a road, between
such and such roads." A general idea of where it is.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: And then we would get attacked because we don't
clearly define the property.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: You must lega!l put the metes and bounds.
MRS. TIEDKE: Of course you must, but you could also say at the beginning or
at the end, "this property is on Hobart Road between Korn and L'Hommedieu,"
or whatever it is. Why couldn't it be done?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY; I.think what they're saying, Bob, can you add a little
bit more than what is legall required? ~
MRS. TIEDKE: Why not?
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: ! would prefer not to, and the reason that i'm
saying that is is that we're opening up legal approaches to attacks. I think
that that notice was very very. clear. I do not find that most people are confused
when they pick up their deed and they read the!description in their deed of their
property. In my experience I have not had any--very few people who could not
read their deed and ascertain the property, and it's a metes and bou ~ncls description.
I think in fact what happened here is that the people finally found a reason. This
is a year after the hearing and they had the hearing and I think you had about
100 people here. How can 100 people find out what it's all about. I think also
there was newspaper articles about this in reference to the hearing.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I think what Frank 'is 'also saying, is if we enlarged
upon' what Judy does presently, giving the calender of,,' events in the Town.
there be anything wrong in doing something like that? Just a little more--
Would
TOWN. ATTORNEY TASKER': This. :comes from an official source. And ~uppose
she overlooked' something, and people say it wasn't in the .,-i'own Clerk's official
notices, because what she publishes as a bulletin automatically then becomes the
official, and if she omits, or if she makes a mistake then we've got to answer to
it. What we're, doing, we're doing it the legal way that the law requires it and
anything else from that--any deviation, all I'm saying is that you're opening
yourself for possible attacks as to the whole proceeding.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Bob, may I make a suggestion? Why don't we ir~vite
the newspapers to call the Town office prior to their publication for a general
discussion of any upcoming hearing or event, wherein that could be put in a
newspaper story or an article on it. I just think that that---
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: I think that they already do this.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: They do already do this;
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I hope they.'re doing that.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: They make a judgment as to what they think the
public is interested in and they pretty well expand on it, and I think most of
their stories concerning these events are factual, and I don't know what more
notice you can have. I mean, this is the first time i can recall in'twenty-five
years that all of a sudden people said they don't understand what the notice is.
If you read the notice, Frank, I think you'll find it's rather_ clear.
MR. BEAR: I read the notices, Bob, pretty carefully, and some of them I find
clear and some of them I don't find so clear.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: Then what do you do? Then .you come down to
Town Hall and you_investigate it.
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MR. BEAR: I do that sort of thing, but I'm trying to tell you, and if you'll
listen, please,---
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: I won't say anything more, I've made my point.
MR. BEAR: 'What I'm trying to say is the general public will not understand
these things. We had a hearing here on Seacroft last summer. How many people
turned out? Well._they found out about it and then they came in here with a
petition, which they weren't allowed to file with the Town Board. This has
been the sort of thing which happens over and over again. Not on everything,
no. Sometimes the word gets around, but I think it's up to this Town Board
to do everything it can, and I don't want them to do anything illegal, everything
they can to be sure that the people of the Town know what's going on in these
public hearings and what they're all about. I think the newspapers have a
responsibility too, and i hope they will follow up even more so, but the problem
is we see the Agenda news stories sometimes on what the Trustees are going to
do, we never see it on what the Town Board is 'going to do, and it think it's
time that we did something to help the people of this Town understand what's
being talked and going to be talked about at public hearing and other events.
Thank you.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, Frank. Is there anyone else would like to
comment? Bessie, would you like to comment on the CAST meeting next Wednesday
isn't it? Where you are inviting public officials, the State Senator and County
Legislators ?
MRS. BESSIE SWANN, Director, CAST: Yes, that's next Thursday. It's a
broad-base meeting. The principal purpose is to continue our advocacy for
Community Service Block Grants. to the State. It has not been addressed in
the 84-85 Federal Budget as of yet and we're soliciting the support, soliticin~
the support of our elected officials in our area to consider replacing those
funds in the Federal Budget. So all of our elected officials have been invited
on June 14th at the CAST center in Greenport and the Town Council. '~
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: At what time?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: What time, Bessie?
MRS. SWANN: That's at 6:00 o'clock. The Board meeting is at 5:]5.g
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you. Jean?
MRS. TIEDKE: I would.like to say thank you in public to Bessie Swann and
Harper LeCompte for the very good meeting ,they put on last week on housing
and various people here who participated. It was very well done.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Our thanks also. Okay-- Jim?
COMMUNITY DEV'ELOPMENT~ DIRECTOR McMAHON: In' reference to that meeting
I'd just like to thank the members of the Town Board who'were at the meeting ....
I think there are a couple of issues that were brought up at the meeting that
very shortly need to be addressed. One of them is what do you do with the
100 units at:DriftWood Cove that are now possibly going condominium ....
MRS. CROSLEY: Co-ops.
MR. McMAHON:
MRS. CROSLEY:
MR. GEISSMAN:
Basically .the same difference.
No, no, not at all.
We know the difference.
MR. McMAHON: The co-ops. The iss.ue in Southold Town of two-family hoUsing,
I think, has to be addressed shortly. The issue of multi-family housing has to
be addressed. It's getting to the point now in Southold Town where we find it's
no longer feasible for a young family to final, number one, a rental house, or to
find a house to purchase. The prices are sky-rocketing. The senior citizens
in our community, we have a large senior citizen population, over 30% of Southold
Town is senior citizen, and my question, I guess, to the Town Board and the
Planning Board, is 'how do we provide housing for our senior citizens, how do we
provide housing for your young families? They're being forced out of'the market
and I think it's now the question before the Planning Board is how do we make
provisions for those people? How do we get two-family housing on the books?
How do we get multi-family? Where do we zone for multi-family? Where do we find
housing that we so desperately need? I~ know here just in Driftwood Cove we've
got, as I said, 100 units. I did some quick figuring today. At an offering price
of $35,000, if you put $30,000--or if you put $5,000 down and mortgage $30,000,
with your interest payments, with your monthly utility bills, ~,ith your common
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charge, you're talking about $800 a month.- A~d where do you go from there?
So it's something that has to be addressed and addressed quickly.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, Jim. Any other comments? Edie?
MRS. CROSLEY: It just occurred to me that the senior citizens--mostly senior
citizens that are living on a fixed income and a moderately fixed income, who
I don't think could go to a bank or a banking agency and ask them for a mortgage.
I don't think a bank would grant someone on a very Iow fixed income, a mortgage
for $35,000. So that's one of the things that we're facing. At 70,_ you know, we
don't want to be burning the mortgage at 95.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank ~Zou, Edie. Very good. Any other comments?
Okay, we do have three more resolutions that We're going to have to add on,
being that ~ve did pass this Order on the Wastewater Treatment District, to award
these contracts. I'll make. them fast. The first one is 'Number 39.
Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Super~/isor Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the bid
of Ferran Concrete Co., Inc., in the amount of $1,957,000.00 for Contract No. I -
General Construction and Mechanical Work, for the Scavenger Waste Treatment
Facility, Wastewater Disposal District, Town of Southold, Federal Project No.
C36-1120-03. This is a Lump Sum Contract and includes all work, labor and
materials required by the Contract Drawings, Information to Bidders, General
Conditioins, Specifications Or otherwise required for the proper completion of
the Contract f and be it further
RESOLVED that SUpervisor Francis J. Murphy be and he hereby is authorized
and directed to enter into a contract with Ferran Concrete Co.· Inc. for the
aforesaid work under Contract No. 1 - General Construction and Mechanical
Work, for the Scavenger Waste Treatment Facility. ~
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schond~bare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy. ~
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 40 is the Plumbing contract.
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Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accelSts- the
bid of James McCullagh Co., Inc. in the amount of $29,400.00 for Contract No.
3- Plumbing, for the Scavenger Waste Treatment Facility, Wastewater Disposal
District, Town of Southold, Federal Project No. C36-'1120-03.This is a Lump
Sum Contract and includes all work, labor and materials required by the Contract
Drawings, Information to Bidders, General Conditions, Specifications or otherwise
required for the proper completion of'the Contract, and be it further .
RESOLVED that Supervisor Francis J. Murphy be and he hereby is authorized
and directed to enter into a contract with James McCullagh Co., Inc.fo'r the.,
aforesaid work under Contract No. 3 - Plumbing, for the Scavenger Waste
Treatment Facility. ..
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, ~ouncilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 41 is the Electrical contract.
41.
Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, ii was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the bid
of McDowell Electric Corp., in the amount of $97,797.00 for Contract No. 4 -
Electrical, for the Scavenger Waste Treatment Facility, Wastewater Disposal '
District, Town of Southold, Federal Project No. C36-1.120-03. This is 'a Lump Sum
Contract and includes all work, labor and materials required by the Contract
Drawings, Information to Bidders, General Conditions, Specifications or other-
wise required for the p~'oper completi0r~ of the Contract, and be it further
RESOLVED that Supervisor Francis J~ Murphy be and he hereby is authorized -
and directed to enter into a contract with McDoweli Electric Corp. for the
aforesaid work under Contract No. 4 - Electrical, for the Scavenger Wast~
Treatment Facility.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman C0chran· Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. - -~
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: i might comment at this time, for anyone who doesn't
realize, the reading on the roll call is done by seniority and alphabetically.
We're not downplaying Jean at all by making her vote first. Again I would like
to thank everybody for their'attendance today and for your cooperation and
participation and at this time I'd like to entertain a motion to adjourn.
Moved by Councilman,Townsend, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that this Town Board meeting be and hereby is adjourned at 9:25 P.M.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
Judith T. Terry
$outhold Town Clerk