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APPEAL BOARD
MEMBERS
Robert W. Gillispie, Jr., Chairmen
Robert Bergen
Herbert Rosenber~
Charles Gre~onis, Jr.
Serge Doyen, Jr.
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS
September 8, 1960
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeals
was held 7230 P.M.s. Thursday~. September 8, 1960 at the Town
Clerk Office, Main Road, Southolds New York.
There were present~ Messrs. Robert W. Gillispie, Jr.~
Chairman~ Robert Bergen~ Herbert Rosenberg, and Charles
Grigonis, Jr.
Also present: Mr, Howard M. Terry, Building Inspector.
Absent: Mr. Serge Doyen, Jr.
PUBLIC ~%RING~ Appeal No. 308~ 7~30 P.M.
upon application of St. Agnes Church, Main Street, Greenport,
New York, for a special exception in accordance with the Zon-
ing Ordinance, Article IV~ Section 408a. for permission to
erect and maintain a sign on the property of John Rempe & wf.
north side Route 25,'east of Albertson Lane~ Greenport, New
York. No fee - church application.
The. Chairman opened the hearing by reading application
for a special exception, legal notice of hearing and affidavit
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attesting to its publication in the official newspaper. .Chair-
man also read letter of permissiun from the property owner,
THECHAIRMAN~ Is there anyone present.who wishes to speak
for this application:
FATRER JOHN MURPHY, Greenport, New York: I am appearing on
behalf of Father Tennant~ St. Agnes Church, Greenport. The
statement that Father Tennant made on the applicationis quite
accurate. During the summer at least 1000 additional people
attend Mass on Sunday, The church holds 300 people and it makes
it necessary for us to hold additional Masses in the Hall.
T~ CHAIRMAn%
area ?
What are the other Catholic churches in this
FATHER MURPHY: There is Greenport~ Southold and Cutchogue~
and of course Mattituck further west.
THE CHAIRMAN: As a result of the summer conditions to have
to hold Mass in the auditorium of the school?
FATHER MURPHY: That is correct.
The Chairman asked several questions relative to the capacity
of the other Catholic churches in the area~ time of%he Masses~ etc.
TRE CHAIRMAN: Will the address of the church be put on the
sign ?
FATHER MURPHY: I am sure it will.
MR. BERGEN: Have these signs been made up yet?
FATHER MURPHY: I do not bel~ve so.
MR. ROSENBERG: How large is the sign to be?
FATHER MURPHY: 5 ft. by 11 ft. If you are going to read
numbers you will need a large sign,
THE CHAIRMAN$ The fewer words on a sign the more likely it
is to register with the traveling public. The directional signs
that we have authorized in the pastthat are in the interest of the
public is 50 sq. ft. Although we have a provision which enables
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the sign owner to have 6 ft. 6 in. by 12 ft. 6 in., but to stay
within 50 sq. ft. The 6 ft. 6 in. by 1.2 ft..6 in. would be the
extreme exterior dimensions of an ir~egular shaped sign. With
your sign we would appreciate it if you would cut it down to
5 ft. by 10 ft. and it would be within the 50 sq. ft. provision.
What will the wording on the sign be?
FATHER MURPHY: The name of the church, name of the street~
time of Masses and time of confessions.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else present who would like
to ask any questions?
MR. ROSENBERG: I would like to remind you that the size
5 .ft. by 10 ft. for the size of the sign means the entire exterior
dimension, The extreme outside.
FATHER MURPHY: Yes, I understand.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application~
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMANs
applicat ion ?
Are there any other questions relative to'this
(There was no response.)
Resolution was offered by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr.
Bergen, and carried~ WHEREAS application of St. Agnes Church~
having been considered at Public Hearing No. 308 on September
8, 1960, and tm Board finding that the public convenience and
welfare and justice will be served and the legally established
or permitted use of neighborhood property and adjacent use
districts will not be substantially or permanently injured and
the spirit of the Ordinance would be observed~ therefore be it
RESOLVED that St. Agnes Church~ Greenport~ New York~ be
granted permission to erect and maintain a sign only for the
purpose of listing religious services, on the property of John
Rempe & wf., north side Route 25, east of Albertson Lane,
Arshamomaque, Greenport, New York. The area of this sign shall
be no greater than 50 sq. ft. and the exterior dimensions no
greater than 6 ft, 6 in. by 12 ft. 6 in., upper edge of the sign
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shall be no higher than 15 ft. 6 in., lower edge no closer than
3 ft. from the ground level and sign to be no closer than 5 ft.
to any property line. Applicant may erect a double faced sign
if desired.
This sign is subject to the same regulations and controls
which affect non-conforming signs.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen,. Mr.
RoseDzberg~ and Mr. Grigonis.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 309- 7:40
upon application of St. Ag~nes Church~ Main Street, Greenport~
New York,. for a special exception in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinances. Article III, Section 300, Subsection 11~ for permission
to erect and maintain a sign on the property of Leo Sledjeski,
north side Route 27A, opposite Queens Lane, Greenport, New York.
No fee - church application.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading application for
a special exception, legal notice of hearing and affidavit
attesting to its publication in the official newspaper, The
letter of permission from the property owner was also read.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
FATHER JOHN bUJI~P~ Greenport~ New Yo~: This sign is
identical to the one we lust discussed. I would also like
to speak in favor of this sign and say that it is needed for
the same reason I gave before. The reason we are using the
North Road is because it is very heavily traveled.
THE CHAIRMAN:
this sign?
Are there any questions with relation to
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who would like to
speak against this application?
(There was no response.)
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Resolution was o.ffered by Mr. Bergen~ seconded by Mr.
Grigonis~ and carried, WHEREAS application of St, Agnes Church
having been considered at Public Hearing No. 309 on September
8, 1960, and the Board finding that the public convenience and
welfare and justice will be served and the legally sstablished
or permitted use of neighborhood property~d adjacent use
districts will not be substantially or permanently injured and
the spirit of the Ordinance would be observed, therefore be it
RESOLVED that St. Agnes Church, Greenport, New York~ be
granted permission to erect and maintain a sign only for the
purpose of listing religious services, .on the property of Leo
Sledjeski, north side Route 27A, opposite Queens Lane, Greenport,
New York~ The area of this sign shall be no greater than 50 sq.
ft. and the exterior dimensions no greater than 6 ft. 6 in. by
12 ft. 6 in., upper edge of the sign shall be no higher than 15 ft.
6 in., lower edge no closer than 3 ft. from the ground level, and
sign to be no closer than 5 ft. to any property line. Applicant
may erect a double faced sign if desired.
This sign is subject to the same regulations and controls
which affect non, conforming signs.
Vote of the Board~ Ayes:- Mr. Giliispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr.
Rosenberg, and Mr. Grigonis.
PUBLIC ~M~%RING: Appeal No. 310, 7:45 P.M- (E.D.S.T.)~. upon
application of James and Dorothy Turk~ North Road, Southold,~ New
York~ for a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance~
Article ILI~ Section 300, Subsection 1, for permissinn to use
existing dwelling as a two family residence. Location of property:
south side Route 27A~ Southold, New York~ bounded north by North
Road, east by Leon Sawicki, south by Leon Sawicki, and west by
Leon Sawicki. Fee .paid $15.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading notice of dis-
approval issued by the building inspector, application for a
variance, legal notice of hearing and affidavit attesting to
its publication in the official newspaper.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone presen-t who wishes to speak
for this application?
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(There was no response.)'
THE CHAIRMAN: I believe when Mr, Turk appeared several
weeks ago we stated that it would not be necessary for him to
appearon this date. It seems the beams in the addition to
thise house were rotting and need repairing, and instead of having
to demolish it he wished to repair it and rent it as apartments
rather than having several roomers.
MR. TERRY, Building Inspectorz The work he intends to do
is all inside the building and would cause no exterior work. There
would be repair of the floor beams.
THE CHAIRMAN: What is the setback of the house?
MP~ TERRY; It is 25 ft from the property line. 25.6 to be exact,
THE CHAIRMAN~ Is there anyone else present who wishes to
say anything in favor of this application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application? ~.
(There was no response.)
Resolution was offered by Mro Bergen~ seconded by Mr.
Rosenberg, and carried~ WHEREAS application of James and
Dorothy Turk, having been considered at Public Hearing No. 310
on September 8, 1960~ and the Board finding that strict appli-
cation of the Ordinance would produce undue hardship because
this wing, whichwas constructed with a separate entrance and
· which would be utilized, badly needs repair and if it is not
utilized it would be necessary to demolish it. The-hardship
created is unique and would not be shared by all properties alike
in the immediate vicinity of this property and in the. same use
district because this house was constructed to be utilized by
more than one family. The variance does observe the spirit of
the Ordinance and would not change the character of the district
because within a quarter of a mile ther~re rooming houses, duplexes
andsummer re~tal bungalows and the nearest residence is over 100 fto~
therefore be it
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RESOLVED that James and Dorothy Turk be granted permission
to use, as a two family dwelling, their residence located on
the south side North Road (Route 27A), Southold~ New York.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-- Mr. Gillispie~ Mr. Bergen~ Mr.
Rosenberg~ and Mr. Grigonis.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 307 - 8:00 P.M. (E.D.S. Tj)~? Upon
application of Harold R. Reeve, Jr.~ Harold R. Reeve, Sr., and
L. P. Reeve, Main Road~ Mattituck~ New York~ for a variance in
accordance with the Zoning Ordinance~. Article III~. Section 303,.
and Article X, Section 1000A~ for permission to reduce frontage
and use as a sin~e lot, property located on the west side Wickham
Avenue~ Mattituck, New York, bounded north by Stanley Zimnoski~
east by Wickham Avenue, south by other land of H. R. Reeve & ors.~
and west by other land of H. R. Reeve & ors.~. Fee paid $15.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading notice of dis-
approval issued by the Building Inspector~ application for a
variance~ legal notice of hearing and affidavit attesting to
its publication in the official newspaper.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
fOr this application?
bIR. HAROLD R. REEVE, JR., Mattituck~ New York:
for this application.
I speak
T~ECHAIRMAN: This application should be amended to
Article IV,. Section 400, Subsection 1 rather than Article III,
Section 303, since this is a business district. The Article X,
Section 1000A will still remain~ will you agree to that amendment?
REEVE: That is perfectly agreeable to me.
On motion of Mr. Bergen, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, and
carried~ the applicati~n of Harold R. Reeve, Jr., Harold R.
Reeve, Sr.~ and L. P. Reeve was amended to Article IV, Section
400~ Subsection 1 and Article X~ Section 1000A.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr.
Grigonis~ and Mr. Rose,berg.
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THE CHAIRMAN:
station ~
What was the time of the lease to the gas
MR- REEVE: 1955,
TRE CHAIRMAN: That predated zoning.
MR. REEVE: The only other use of the property in question
would be business and I do not know what business would want to
go there and who would want to have it there.
THE C~: I feel it would tend to up-grade the property
to have a house there rather than a business.
Are there any questions anyone would like to ask Mr~ Reeve?
MR. BERGEN: What is the setback for the house to be built?
MR. REEVE: 35 ft., and Zimnoski is a little less than 33 ft.
By going back 35 ft. the vision near the corner won't be obstructed.
THE CHAIRMAN: Are there any other questions?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who would like to speak
against this application?
(There was no response.)
Resolution was offered by Mr. Gillispie~ seconded by Mr.
Bergen,. and carried~ WHEREAS application of Harold R. Reeve.. ~ Jr.,
Harold R. Reeve, Sr., and L. P. Reeve~ having been considered at
Public Hearing No. 307 on September 8, 1960, and the Board finds
that strict application of the Ordinance would produce undue hard-
ship because, applicant is unable to secure additional land on either
side to increase the frontage. The hardship created is unique and
is not shared by all properties alike in the immediate vicinity
of this property and in this use district because most of the other
lots in the area are less than 100 ft, frontage~ some being 50 ft.
or 60 ft. lots. The variance would observe the spirit of the
Ordinance and would not change the character of the district
because applicant intends to erect a residence in keeping with
the neighborhood~ therefore be it
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RESOLVED that Harold R. Reeve, Jr., Harold R. Reeve, Sr. ~
and~'Li P, Reeve be granted permission to reduce fXontage and
use as a single lot, property located on the west side Wickham
Avenue, Mattituck, New York. Frontage of lot to be 60 ft.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr.
Rosenberg~ and Mr. Grigoniso
PUBLIC h~%RING: Appeal NO. 311 - Upon application of Robert
Ketcham, Jr., Bay Lake Pa~k~ East Marion,. New York, a/c Booth
House, Sterling Avenue, Greenport, New York~ for a special ex-
ception in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article .I~V~
SectiOn 408, for permission to erect and maintain a directional
sign on the property of Mrs. Edna M. Turner~ north side Route 25,
Greenport, New York, bounded north by F. K. Stepnoski Estate, east
by Sam Ciacia Estate, south by Main Road, and west by Rempe & ors.
Fee paid $15o 00. This hearing was originally scheduled for 8:00
P.M., Thursday, September l, 1960~. but postponed to this date.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading application for a
special exception, legal notice of hearing and affidavit attesting
to its publication in the official newspaper. Letter from the
property owner was also read.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present 'who wishes to speak
for this application?
M~ ROBERT KETCHAM, JR., Bay Lake Park~.East Marion, New
York: The sign will be rectangular with an arrow pointing from
Route 25 to the church to the Booth House.. It will be erected
vertically rather than horizontal.
MR- BERGEN: What is the size of the sign?
MR. KETCHAM: 7 ft'. by 10 ft.
THE CHAIRMAN: I am afraid you will have to cut that down to
50 sq. fto Would you please make a sketch of the sign for us?
(Mr. Ketcham made a sketch of the Sign for the Board.)
THE CHAIRMAN: You could probably cut off the part of the
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sign that is not used and thereby meet the 50 sq. ft.. require-
ment. That is all anyone else is allowed.
Is there anyone else who would like to ask any questions?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN~ Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no rexponse.)
Resolution was offered by Mr. Rosenberg, seconded by Mr.
Grigonis~ and carried~ WHEREAS application of Robert Ketcham,
having been considered at Public Hearing No. 311 on September8,
1960~ and the Board finding that the public convenience and welfare
and justice will be served and the!egally established or permitted
use of neighborhood property and adjacent use districts will not
be substantially or permanently injured and the spirit of the
Ordinance would be observed~ therefore be it
RESOLVED that permission be granted Robert Ketcham, Jr.,
a/c .Booth House, Greenport~ to erect and maintain a directional
sign on the property of Edna M. Turner~ north side Route 254
Greenporto The area of the sign to be no greater than 50 sq. ft.,
and exterior dimensions to be no greater than 6 ft. 6 in, by 12 ft.
6 in. Upper edge of the sign shall be no higher than 15 ft, 6 in.,
lower edge no less than 3 ft. above the ground level and sign to
be no closer than 5 ft. to any property line,
This sign is subject to the same regulations and controls
which affect non-conforming signs.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr.
Rosenberg~ and Mr. Grigonis.
Mr. Ketcham informally discussed with the Board of Appeals
the matter of erecting a fence on the line between two properties.
Mr. Terry informed M~. Ketcham that if the fence hits on the
property line it mus~by written agreement between the property
owners.
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Mr. William J.. Finn, 1901 N- Jersualem Road, East Meadow,.
New York, appeared before the Board of Appeals for an informal
discussion relative to property he is 'interested in on Peconic
Bay Boulevard, Laurel, which is 63 ft. by .400 ft. Mr. Finn
stated that the wished to use the dwelling and convert the exist-
Lng two car garage into a second res idence~ for his aunt. After
considerable discussion relative to the situation~ Mr. Finn was
advised that his best solution would be to divide the property
into two separate lots, each would contain 12,600 sq. ft., and
either move the garage back or build a new dwelling on ~the second
lot. Mr.. Finn stated that he would apply for a var lance to
dividie the property into two single lots and reduce the frontage.
The minutes of the meeting of September 1~ 1960, on motion
of Mr. Bergen, seconded by Mr. Rosenberg, and carried, were
approved as submitted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen,
Mr. Rosenberg, and Mr. Grigonis.
On motion of Mr. Bergen, seconded byMr. RoSenberg, and
carried, it was RESOLVED that the Boardof Appeals set 7:30
P.M. ~.D.S.T.), Thursday, September 25, 1960~ Town Clerk Office~
Main Road~ $outhold, New York, as time and place for hearing
upon application of William Finn, 1901 N, Jersulame Road~ East
Meadow, New York~ for a variance in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinance~ Article III~ Section 303, and Article X~ Section 1000A,
for permission to reduce frontage and divide property into two
single lots. Location of property: north side Peconic Bay
Boulevard,~ Laurel, New York,' bounded north by G, I. Tuthill,
east by Catholic Daughters of America, south by Peconic Bay
Boulevard~ and west by E. J. Bellis.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Mr..Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr.
Rosenberg, a~dMr. Grigonis.
Resolutinn was offered by Mr. Rosenberg~ seconded by Mr.
Grigonis, and carried, setting 8:00 P.M. (E.D.S.T.), Thursday~
September 22, 1960~ Town Clerk Office, Main Road# Southold, New
York as time and place for hearing upon application of Walter W-
Washburn~ Bay Avenue~East Marion, New York, for recognition of
· access in accordance with State of New York Town Law Section 280A.
Location of propertY; private right-of-way off of the west side
Bay Avenue~ East Marion, New York, bounded north by other land of
Walter W. Washburn~ east by Krancher & ors~ south by Marion Lake
and Ziegler, and west by Marion Lake.
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On motion of Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Bergen, and
carried, the Board of Appeals set 8:15 P~M. (E.D,S.T.) ~ Thursday,
September 22, 1960, Town Clelk Office~. Main R~d~ Southold, New
York~ as time and place for hearing upon application of Costas
Stars, Main 'Road, East Marion, New York, for a special exception
in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article X~ Section 1007,
Subsection. (~)~ for permission to expand a non-conforming use.
Location-of. Property: north side Route 25, East Marion, New York~
bounded north by other land of Costas Stars~ east by George
Schroeder, south by Route 25, and west by Eldredge and Dsenkowski.
Vote of the Board: Ayes~- Mr. Gillispie, Mr. Bergen, Mr.
Rosenberg, and Mr. Grigonis.
Meeting adjourned at 10:00 P.M.
The next meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeals
will be held 7:30 P.M., Thursday, September 22, 1960, at the
Town Clerk Office, Main Road~ Southold,. New York.