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BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD RECEIVED
Minutes SEP 1 5
2022
Wednesday, August 17, 2022
5:30 PM
SOUth®ld Town Clerk
Present Were Glenn Goldsmith, President
A. Nicholas Krupski, Trustee
Eric Sepenoski, Trustee
Liz Gillooly, Trustee
Elizabeth Peeples, Trustee
Elizabeth Cantrell, Senior Clerk Typist
Lori Hulse, Board Counsel
CALL MEETING TO ORDER
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Good evening, and welcome to our Wednesday,
August 17, 2022, meeting. At this time I would like to call the
meeting to order and ask that you please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.
(Pledge of Allegiance is recited).
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: We'll start off the meeting by announcing the
people on the dais. To my left we have Trustee Sepenoski, Trustee Gillooly
and Trustee Peeples. To my right we have attorney for the Trustees Lori Hulse,
we have Senior Clerk Typist Elizabeth Cantrell. With us tonight is court
stenographer Wayne Galante, and from the Conservation Advisory
Council we have Carol Brown.
Agendas for tonight's meeting are located out in the hallway and on the
Town's website.
We do have a number of postponements tonight. They are listed as follows:
In the agenda, on page five, number 1, Costello Marine Contracting Corp. on
behalf of FOUNDERS LANDING BOAT YARD, LLC requests an Amendment
to Wetland Permit#8666 for the as-built 68' long solid splashboard system
under the offshore fixed finger pier.
Located: 2700 Hobart Road & 1000 Terry Lane, Southold.
SCTM# 1000-64-3-10 & 1000-64-3-11
On page six, number 3, J.M.O. Environmental Consulting
on behalf of J. GEDDES PARSONS requests a Wetland Permit and a
Coastal Erosion Permit to remove the existing 5'x81' fixed dock and piles
(16), 3'x20' ramp and 9'x18' floating dock; construct a proposed 5'x81' fixed
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dock secured by sixteen (16) piles; install a 4'x16' adjustable ramp; and install
an 8'x18.5' floating dock situated in an "I" configuration and secured by
four (4) piles; and to replace the five (5) existing tie-off piles as needed.
Located: 515 Sterling Street, Fishers Island. SCTM# 1000=10-9-3.1
On page seven, number 4, JMO Environmental Consulting on
behalf of W. HARBOR BUNGALOW, LLC, c/o CRAIG SCHULTZ requests a
Wetland Permit and a Coastal Erosion Permit for the existing
6.5'x53' fixed dock with a 11'x11' fixed portion in an "L"
configuration; existing 3.5'x12' ramp and existing 8'x20'
floating dock; the 6.5'x53' fixed dock and 11'x11' fixed portion
in the "L" configuration to remain; remove existing ramp, float
and two piles and install a new 4'x20' ramp with rails and an
8'x18' floating dock situated in an "I" configuration secured by
four piles; and to install four tie-off piles.
Located: 371 Hedge Street, Fishers Island. SCTM# 1000-10-7-18
On page nine, number 11, Suffolk Environmental Consulting
on behalf of TOWN CREEK REAL ESTATE, INC., c/o MICHAEL LIEGY
requests a Wetland Permit to construct a proposed 25'x50'
two-story, single-family dwelling with attached 20'x20' garage;
install a pervious driveway; install a new I/A OWTS system; and
to install gutters to leaders to drywells to contain roof runoff.
Located: 480 Ackerly Pond Road, Southold. SCTM# 1000-69-3-13
On page nine, number 12, Suffolk Environmental Consulting
on behalf of KAAN ILGIN requests a Wetland Permit to mitigate
the existing clearing by re-vegetating a 14,257sq.ft. area by
installing native plantings throughout the disturbed area, and
by preserving 68,134sq.ft. of existing vegetation; install 372
linear feet of fencing along the rear of the existing dwelling
to provide a physical demarcation of the upland and wetland
areas; for the existing 8'x12' shed; and to maintain a 4' wide
access path to the water.
Located: 3525 Paradise Point Road, Southold. SCTM# 1000-81-1-15.8 & 15.9
On page ten, numbers 13 through 17:
Number 13, Raymond Nemschick, AIA on behalf of ROGER SIEJKA
requests a Wetland Permit to construct a two-story, single-family dwelling
with a basement; first floor is 24'5" wide by 50'0" deep; front porch is 11'0"
wide, 6'2" deep; rear veranda (deck) is 24'5" wide by 10' deep; and overall
max height is 32'3".
Located: 955 Blossom Bend, Mattituck. SCTM# 1000-115-6-22
Number 14, Jeffrey Patanjo on behalf of ANGELIKI KAZEROS &
GEORGE PLITAS requests a Wetland Permit to construct a proposed
4' wide by 193' long fixed catwalk with a 14' long by 3' wide
aluminum ramp and a 6' wide by 20' long floating dock situated
in an "L" configuration and secured with two (2) 10" diameter piles.
Located: 1395 Sleepy Hollow Lane, Southold. SCTM# 1000-78-1-10.20
Number 15, Charles Thomas R.A., PLLC on behalf of MARY HOELTZEL
requests a Wetland Permit to demolish existing 28'x59.6' dwelling to first floor
deck and demolish existing 20'x20.2' detached garage; construct a proposed
32'x104.2' (2,278sq.ft.) two-story dwelling with seaward side covered porch
and attached garage consisting of the proposed dwelling to be
32'x63.4', proposed attached garage to be 22'x31'; the proposed
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dwelling will be using the same foundation and first floor deck
of existing dwelling with additions to the east and north; construct a proposed
10.6'x29' covered porch with a 10.6'x29'second story balcony above; a
proposed 1'4.6'x26.4' patio on east side and partially covered by a second story
bump=out; construct a.5'x8.6' covered.front porch; and for the existing
7.10'x12.4' shed landward of dwelling to remain.
Located: 6190 Great Peconic Bay Boulevard, Laurel. SCTM# 1000-128-2-5
Number 16, En-Consultants on behalf of DANIEL McGOVERN &
CATHERINE LUCARELLI requests a Wetland Permit to remove existing_
3'x4.5' steps, and construct a fixed timber dock with water and
electricity consisting of a 4'x60' fixed timber catwalk (53'
seaward of bulkhead), constructed with untreated decking
(including open-grate decking at least 15' seaward of bulkhead),
with two (2) 4'x6' steps for beach access; a 3'x14' hinged ramp;
and a 6'x20'floating dock situated in an "L" shaped
configuration and secured by two (2) 8" diameter pilings.
Located: 830 Oak Avenue, Southold. SCTM# 1000-77-1-4
Number 17, SLATTERY NASSAU POINT TRUST requests a Wetland
Permit to replace the existing 4'x16' set of stairs; 12'x18'
deck; and 4'x32' walk; deck and walk are 30" AGL.
Located: 460 West Cove Road, Cutchogue. SCTM# 1000-111-2-6
On page 11, numbers 18 through 22:
Number 18, En-Consultants on behalf of ELIAS DAGHER
requests a Wetland Permit to remove existing wood platform, walk
and steps; construct a fixed timber dock with water and
electricity consisting of a 4'x74' fixed timber catwalk constructed
with open-grate decking; with two (2) 4'x6' steps for beach access;
a 3'x14' hinged ramp; and a 6'x20' floating dock situated in a "T" configuration
and secured by two (2) 8" diameter pilings.
Located: 90 Oak Avenue, Southold. SCTM# 1000-77-2-6
Number 19, BRIDGET CLARK requests a Wetland Permit for the
existing 20'3"x22'4" (452sq.ft.) detached garage and to convert
it into an accessory apartment by replacing existing windows,
exterior door, add plumbing to connect to existing septic, and
install a wall mounted electric heating unit.
Located: 7825 Soundview Avenue, Southold. SCTM# 1000-59-6-15
Number 20, Michael Kimack on behalf of NUNNAKOMA WATERS
ASSOCIATION, INC. requests a Wetland Permit to perform work on
the property Iodated at 645 Wampum Way (1000-87-2-42.3),
consisting of installing 235 linear feet of Shore Guard 9900
vinyl hybrid low-sill bulkhead with helical supports installed
at discretion of contractor; restore approximately 200 linear
feet of eroded bank with 90-100 cubic yards of sand recovered
from storm deposit area; install filter fabric (±1,600sq.ft.),
and plant American Beach grass @ 18" on center (±1,200 plants)
over restored bank area; construct.storm water concrete
diversion swale (10'x43', 430sq.ft.) with rip-rap runoff area
(10'x20', 200sq.ft.), consisting of 50-150 Ib. Stones set on
filter fabric; the storm washed sand area is to be restored to
the original grade line and the removed sand (90-100 cubic
yards) is to be used on site to restore the eroded bank area; on
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all three properties, dredge a portion of Moyle Cove to deepen
channel in three (3) areas, AA, BB and CC to a depth of-4.00ft.
(Approx. 365 cubic yards), and area DD to a depth of-3.00ft.
(Approx. 85 cubic yards), for a total dredging of approximately
450 cubic yards; the dredge spoils is proposed to be spread on
the two Sauer properties (255 Wigwam Way, SCTM# 1000-87-2-40.1 &
175 Wigwam Way, SCTM# 1000-87-2-40.2), in an area of
approximately 8,000 sq.ft. and to a depth of approximately 1.5ft.; the
dredged spoils placement area will be surrounded by a silt fence with
hay bales to be kept in place and maintained until the spoils are de-watered.
Located: 645 Wampum Way, 255 Wigwam Way & 175 Wigwam Way, Southold.
SCTM#s 1000-87-2-42.3, 1000-87-2-40.1 & 1000-87.-2-40.2
Number 21, Jeffrey Patanjo on behalf of SADIK HALIT LEGACY TRUST
requests a Wetland Permit for the as-built bluff stairs consisting of the following:
4'x4' at-grade top landing to an 8,2'x9.5' upper platform to 18'x4' steps down to
an 8'x3.8' middle platform to 16'x4' steps down to a 19.4'x10' lower platform to
14.5'x4' steps down to beach; all decking on structure is of untreated lumber.
Located: 2200 Sound Drive, Greenport. SCTM# 1000-33-1-16
Number 22, Cole Environmental Services on behalf of SCOTT & LEA VITRANO
requests a Wetland Permit to remove existing pier and float; construct a proposed
4'x14' landward ramp leading to a 4'x35' fixed pier with Thru-Flow decking a
minimum of 4' above wetlands; a proposed 3'x12' metal ramp; and a 4'x20' floating
dock situated in a "T" configuration and secured by two (2) 8" diameter piles.
Located: 3875 Main Bayview Road, Southold. SCTM# 1000-78-2-15.1
And on page 12, number 23, Cole Environmental Services on
behalf of JUSTIN &ALLISON SCHWARTZ requests a Wetland Permit to
construct a proposed 4'x165' fixed pier with open grate decking a minimum of 4'
above tidal vegetative grade; a 3'x16' aluminum ramp; a 6'x20' floating dock
situated in an "T" configuration; and to install a natural path leading from upland
to fixed pier using permeable material.
Located: 2793 Cox Neck Road, Mattituck. SCTM# 1000-113-8-7.6
All of those are postponed, so there will not be a public hearing on those
tonight.
Under Town Code Chapter 275-8(c), files were officially
closed seven days ago. Submission of any paperwork after that
date may result in a delay of the processing of the application.
I. NEXT FIELD INSPECTION:
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: At this time I will make a motion to hold our
next field inspection on Wednesday, September 7th, 2022, at 8:00 AM.
TRUSTEE GILLOOLY: Second.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
II. NEXT TRUSTEE MEETING
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Motion to hold our next Trustee meeting
Wednesday, September 14th, 2022, at 5:30 PM at the Town Hall
Main Meeting Hall.
TRUSTEE PEEPLES: Second.
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TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
III. WORK SESSIONS:
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: I'll make a motion to hold our next work
session, Monday, September 12th, 2022, at 5:00 PM, at the Town
Hall Annex 2nd floor Executive Board Room; and no Wednesday,
September 12th, 2022, at 5:00 PM at the Town Hall Main Meeting
Hall.
TRUSTEE SEPENOSKI: Second.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
IV. MINUTES:
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: I'll make a motion to approve the Minutes of
the July 13, 2022 meeting.
TRUSTEE PEEPLES: Second.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
V. MONTHLY REPORT:
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Under Roman numeral V, Monthly Report, the Trustees
monthly report for July, 2022, a check for$10,377.85 was forwarded to the Supervisor's
Office for the General Fund.
VI. PUBLIC NOTICES
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Public notices are posted on the Town Clerk's bulletin board
for review.
VII. STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEWS
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Under Roman numeral VII, State Environmental
Quality Reviews:
RESOLVED that the Board of Trustees of the Town of Southold
hereby finds that the following applications more fully
described in Section XI Public Hearings section of the Trustee
agenda dated Wednesday, August 17, 2022, are classified as Type
II Actions pursuant to SEQRA Rules and Regulations, and are not
subject to further review under SEQRA, as written. That is my
motion.
Abby Rosmarin & David Ross SCTM# 1000-99-3-4.1
MKS Realty, LLC SCTM# 1000-54-4-20
Kathleen & Lyle Girandola SCTM# 1000-128-6-10
Stephen & Jacqueline Dubon SCTM# 1000-137-4-3.2
Joseph F. & Linda Sciotto SCTM# 1000-126-11-20
Joseph F. Barszczewski, Jr. SCTM# 1000-53-2-7
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Gerard & Karen Diffley SCTM# 1000-115-11-14
DKJK Family Trust SCTM# 1000-115-12-13
Gerosa Family Trust SCTM# 1000-21-2-3
Michael &Argy Mantikas SCTM# 1000-37-6-3.5
Charles Snyder SCTM# 1000-35-4-28.24
Kaan Ilgin SCTM# 1000-81-1-15.8 & 15.9
Angeliki Kazeros & George Plitas SCTM# 1000-78-1-10.20
TRUSTEE PEEPLES: Second.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
VIII. RESOLUTIONS -ADMINISTRATIVE PERMITS:
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Under Roman numeral VIII, Resolutions
Administrative Permits. In order to simplify our meeting, the
Trustees regularly group together applications that are minor or
similar in nature. As such, I make a motion to approve as a
group Items 2 through 4.
Number 2, SAMUEL SINGER requests an Administrative Permit
to install an 8' high approximately 4,700 feet long deer fence
around an 11 acre open field area.
Located: 44030 Route 25, Southold. SCTM# 1000-75-6-6.1
Number 3, VINS KIMBERLY LLC requests a Ten (10) Year
Maintenance Permit to hand-cut Common Reed (Phragmites
australis) to not less than 12" in height by hand, as needed.
Located: 1325 Kimberly Lane, Southold. SCTM# 1000-70-13-20.8
Number 4, SEAVILLE 641 LLC requests an Administrative
Permit to remove existing front porch steps and replace
stringers, risers &treads with new. Stair location to be
maintained. Existing stair layout consist of(8) risers at 7 W
high. Stairs are approximately 9'-6" wide and come out T-7"
from face of porch; total existing steps area approximately =.77
SF; Related improvements would include stair footing replacement
as well as related cosmetic improvements such as new railings;
Front Entry Porch and steps 432 SF; Rear Deck: Propose to
maintain existing decking & rebuild structure from underneath;
existing deck is approximately 52'-6"x 13-9" and has protruding
stair landing that is 9'-6"x4'-2". Stairs are approximately
8'-8 x 4'-2". Stair& landing to be removed/relocated; total
built area of existing deck, landing & stair= 797 SF; proposed
rear deck maintains existing decking & provides for new
relocated stairs 8'-3"x 4'-6. Total of 10 risers @ 7" (11"
treads) new skirting and new railing; construct new roofed over,
screened-in area is to be constructed on top of/part of existing
deck; The screened in area on top of the existing decking is
within the footprint of the existing deck. The screened space
will be open air and unconditioned; Screened in area is 15'-0"x
13'-9" or 203 SF.
Located: 1035 Sebastian Cove Road, Mattituck. SCTM# 1000-100-3-11.14
TRUSTEE GILLOOLY: Second.
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TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Number 1, Thomas'C. Wolpert, P.E., on behalf
of JONATHAN REBELL & NOAH LEVINE requests an Administrative
Permit to conduct construction activity within 100'from the
landward edge of wetlands for the construction of a new
1,786sq.ft. two-story frame dwelling with a 241sq.ft. screen
porch, a 497sq.ft. deck with trellis and 69sq.ft. stairs to
ground, a 255sq.ft. side porch with 121 sq.ft. stairs to ground,
an 800sq.ft. swimming pool; one (1) 8' dia. By 10' effect. Depth
discharge drywell for the pool., new I/A sanitary system and
removal of existing conventional sewage disposal system.
Located: 4790 Blue Horizon Bluffs, Peconic. SCTM# 1000-74-1-35.56
The LWRP found this application to be consistent.
Trustee Peeples conducted a field inspection on August 1st,
noting the need for gutters to leaders to drywells to contain
roof runoff, as well as to move the drywell more than 100 feet
from the top of the bluff.
As such, I.will make a motion to approve this application
with the condition of gutters to leaders to drywells to contain
roof runoff, and that the drywell be moved landward of more than
100 feet from the top of bluff.
TRUSTEE PE'EPLES: Second.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor? ,
(ALL AYES).
IX. APPLICATIONS FOR EXTENSIONS/TRANSFERS/ADMINISTRATIVE
AMENDMENTS:
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Under Roman numeral IX, Applications for
Extensions, Transfers, Administrative Amendments. Similarly, I make a
-motion to approve as a group items 1 through 14. They are listed
as follows:
Number 1, Suffolk Environmental Consulting, Inc., on behalf
of STEVEN &JACI OSDOBY requests a One (1) Year Extension to
Wetland Permit#9682, as issued on August 19, 2020.
Located: 605 Bay Shore Road, Greenport. SCTM# 1000-53-3-8
Number 2, STEPHEN MERKLE & ERIKA SHALETTE request a One (1)
Year Extension to Administrative Permit#9692A, as issued on
September 16, 2020.
Located: 1800 Little Peconic Bay Road, a/k/a 3700 Wunneweta Road, Cutchogue.
SCTM# 1000411-14-20
Number 3, Frank W. Uellendahl on behalf of SUSAN &TIMOTHY MILANO
requests the Final One (1) Year Extension to Wetland Permit#9519, as
issued on August 14, 2019.
Located: 745 Aquaview Avenue, East Marion. SCTM# 1000-21-2-9
Number 4, William C. Goggins, on behalf of MAIA KHUTSISHVILI requests
a Transfer of Wetland Permit#63-7-38 from Janet Knight to Maia Khutsishvili,
as issued on March 11, 1993; and for an Administrative Amendment to
Wetland Permit#63-7-38 for as-built 4'x121.5' dock with 18' long steps and
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walkway in lieu of the previously approved 4'x105' dock; and 14.5'x22.8'
deck over block boathouse. -
Located: 1645 Calves Neck Road, Southold. SCTM# 1000-63-7-38
Number 5, En-Consultants on behalf of NORTH PARISH DRIVE, LLC
requests a Transfer of Wetland Permit#10124 from John & Lynn Scott to
North Parish Drive, LLC, as issued on April 13, 2022.
Located: 495 North Parish Drive, Southold. SCTM# 1000-71-1-5
Number 6, SCOTT HASSILDINE requests a Transfer of Wetland
Permit#1683 from Betty-Jean Hassildine & Others to Scott
Hassildine & Others, as issued on September 27, 1983; and for an
Administrative Amendment to Wetland Permit#1683 for the
as-built 5'x30' wood walkway; 4'6"x22' fixed catwalk.
Located: 2800 West Creek Avenue, Cutchogue. SCTM# 1000-110-1-11
Number 7, En-Consultants on behalf of NICOLE MARTORANA &
DAVID ALWORTH requests'a Transfer of Wetland Permit#9279 from
FHV, LLC to Nicole Martorana & David Alworth, as issued on July 18, 2018.
Located: 3400 Deep Hole Drive, Mattituck. SCTM# 1000-115-17-11
Number 8, En-Consultants on behalf of NICOLE MARTORANA &
DAVID ALWORTH requests a Transfer of Wetland Permit#9323 from
Frank Martorana, Mindy Martorana & Bryan Martorana to Nicole
Martorana & David Alworth, as issued on October 17, 2018.
Located: 3400 Deep Hole Drive, Mattituck. SCTM# 1000-115-17-11
Number 9, ANTHONY & KAREN DeLORENZO request a Transfer of
Wetland Permit#1952 from John Dempsey to Anthony & Karen
DeLorenzo, as issued on May 1, 1985 and Amended on August 26,
1992; and for an Administrative Amendment to Wetland Permit
#1952 for the as-built 4'x200' catwalk, in lieu of the
previously approved 4'x180'.
Located: 470 Haywaters Drive, Cutchogue. SCTM# 1000-104-5-21.1
Number 10, Suffolk Environmental Consulting on behalf of
JAMES D. &VICKY VAVAS requests an Administrative Amendment to
Wetland Permit#9995 to construct a 4'x4' egress window well.
Located: 3165 Bay Shore Road, Greenport. SCTM# 1000-53-6-7
Number 11, ADF VENTURES LLC requests an Administrative
Amendment to Administrative Permit#10134A to install an
18'x8'x5' "Endless" hot tub, to be recessed 24" below grade
within the previously approved 16'x32' bluestone patio.
Located: 17877 Soundview Avenue, Southold. SCTM# 1000-51-1-4
Number 12, PHILIP & LIA CHASEN request an Administrative
Amendment to Wetland Permit#10095 for the as-built increased
square footage of the pool patio to 2245 sq.ft in lieu of the
previously approved 1850 sq.ft.; as-built 763" x 163"
retaining wall with a 4' non-turf pathway seaward of retaining
wall; establish and perpetually maintain the entire property
seaward of pathway as a vegetated non-turf buffer; install 175'
of fencing surrounding patio and on the retaining wall; proposed
pool house (350sq.ft.) not to be constructed.
Located: 1585 Long Creek Drive, Southold. SCTM# 1000-55-7-3
Number 13, KENNETH QUIGLEY requests an Administrative
Amendment to Wetland Permit#9757 for a fixed Dock box 2'-6" x
5'-0" and rinse off station-2'-6" x 2'-6"; the addition of a
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third ladder on fixed pier (20" wide); increase kayak'launch to
Tx 12' in lieu of.previously approved 5'x12'; one (1) -Access
Steps Off Catwalk-48"Wide; water and electric; 2 - 12" Pilings
(Tie Off Poles)- 24' apart and 12'from fixed Dock.
Located: 2245 Little Peconic Bay Lane, Southold. SCTM#: 1000-90-1-16
Number 14, Eugene J. Burger on behalf of IRA & SUSAN
AKSELRAD requests an Administrative Amendment to Wetland Permit
#9926 to increase first story addition by 2' to 12'x31.2'
(311.25sq;ft) in lieu of previously approved; construct a roof
deck above the first story addition and extending 46.2 feet from
the westerly end of the addition towards the seaward face of the
existing dwelling 12' x 27.4' (274 sq.ft.) In lieu of previously
approved; extend lower slab on grade terrace 12'x12.5' and
relocate existing outdoor cooking equipment.
Located: 4125 Nassau Point Road, Cutchogue. SCTM# 1000-111-9-6.4
TRUSTEE GILLOOLY: Second.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH:
(ALL AYES).
X. MOORINGS/STAKE & PULLEY SYSTEMS.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Under Roman numeral X, I'll make a motion to approve
number 1, DYLAN SZCZOTKA requests a Waterfowl/Duck Blind Permit to place a
Waterfowl/Duck Blind in Narrow River using public access.
Located: Narrow River, Orient
TRUSTEE SEPENOSKI: Second.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).'
XI. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
TRUSTEE'GOLDSMITH: Under Roman numeral XI, Public Hearings. At
this time-I'll make a motion to go off our regular meeting
agenda and enter into Public Hearings.
TRUSTEE GILLOOLY: Second.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
This is a public hearing in the matter of the following
applications for permits under the Wetlands Ordinance of the
Town of Southold. I have an affidavit of publication from the
Suffolk Times. Pertinent correspondence may be read prior to
asking for.comments from the public. Please keep your comments
organized and brief, five minutes or less, if possible.
WETLAND & COASTAL EROSION PERMITS:
TRUSTEE-GOLDSMITH: Under Wetland & Coastal Erosion Permits,
Number 1, Jeffrey Patanjo on behalf of ABBY ROSMARIN &DAVID ROSS
requests a Wetland Permit and a Coastal Erosion Permit for the as-built removal of an
existing deteriorated 12.3'x17.2' stone patio and deteriorated landscape wall (north
side), and replacement with'a new 24.5' x 19' & 13' semi-circle (on west side) on-grade
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paver patio in same location as previous patio; replacement of north side landscape
wall with new±24".tall by 24.5' long paver block landscape wall and added,on an east
side a ±24" tall by 19' long landscape wall, and on west side a ±24" tall by 8'1" long
landscape wall; and an as-built built-in fire pit; all work is above the top of bluff line
and flush with surrounding grade.
Located: 640 Lloyd's Lane, Mattituck. SCTM# 1000-99-3-4.1
The LWRP found this to be inconsistent. The inconsistencies are the unpermitted
as-built patio and landscape wall cannot be replaced according to Policy 6.3 because
they had never received permits in the past. The enlargement of the patio is not
recommended.
Also, the as-built fire pit was constructed without a permit and is inconsistent with
Policy 6.3.
The Conservation Advisory Council resolved to not support the application for the
as-built located within the Coastal Erosion Hazard Area, which includes 200 square-foot
patio.
The Trustees conducted a field inspection on August 9th, 2022. At the time we
noted the extension for the landscape wall to be moved off the property line, as well as
the need for a non-turf buffer.
We did receive a new project description stamped received August 10th, 2022.
Is there anyone here wishing to speak regarding this application?
(No response).
Any questions or comments from the Board?
(No response).
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Hearing none, I'll make a motion to close this hearing.
TRUSTEE PEEPLES: Second.
TRUSTEE-GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: I'll make a motion, since this was constructed, an illegal.
_structure was constructed, reconstructed, without a permit, and is located at or on
the bluff, adversely affecting the wetlands, I will make a motion to
deny'this application, both the Wetland and Coastal Erosion.
TRUSTEE PEEPLES: Second.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
(UNIDENTIFIED VOICE): I am the applicant. I don't understand
the process and my attorney is not here. So I don't know if I'm supposed to --
MS. HULSE: Thank you.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Number 2, Young & Young on behalf of
MKS REALTY, LLC requests a Wetland Permit and a Coastal Erosion
Permit to construct a two-story 2,445sq.ft. footprint dwelling with garage;
a proposed 21'10"x11'9" (253.5sq.ft.) seaward bedroom balcony with railing
system; a proposed 10'4"x20'2" (191.7sq.ft.) mezzanine level bedroom balcony,
railing system, a privacy screen wall along west side, and a 6' wide spiral
staircase to ground; a 1,218.8sq.ft. elevated deck,with a 522sq.ft. pool on seaward
side, privacy screening along portion of east side, a 3'9" wide stairs with railings
to ground to west and a 3'6" stairs with railings to ground to east; proposed 10'
wide bar/grill area on pool deck; seaward of pool to the east off pool patio, a
proposed 203.6sq.ft. elevated (ranging from ±7.5' to 10' above natural grade)
catwalk leading to a 127.9sq.ft. open air gazebo with flat roof over, 3'6" wide
stairs with railings to ground, and 110.6sq.ft. storage area under gazebo;
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proposed 663sq.ft. of non-pervious front entry stairs; proposed 4,095sq.ft. of
stone blend driveway; proposed 1,200 gallon underground propane tank;
new I/A OWTS sanitary system, i.e. one (1) 500 gallon wastewater treatment
unit and six (6) 8.5' long by 2' effect. Depth sanitary leaching galleys;
public water service connection; new storm water control structures for roof
runoff and driveway runoff; approximately 690 cubic yards of clean material
from the excavated areas will be used to fill the site to the proposed grades;
and all mechanical equipment (i.e. A/C unit), to be located above the
second-story structure.
Located: 1925 North Sea Drive, Southold. SCTM# 1000-54-4-20
The LWRP found this to be inconsistent. The inconsistencies
are: The entire parcel is located within the Coastal Erosion
Hazard Area. Violates Chapter 111-4. The purpose of the Town of
Southold to regulate coastal areas subject to coastal flooding
and erosion, land use and development activities so as to
minimize or prevent damage or destruction to manmade property,
natural protective features and other natural resources, and to
protect human life. The entire structure is located within the VE
Elevation 13 Flood Zone. VE coastal areas are subject to
high-velocity waters, including waves, defined by the 1% annual
chance of flood and wave effects three feet or greater. This
means that the flood has a 1% chance of being met or exceeded in
any given year.
The parcel and any development on the parcel will be
adversely impacted by Categories 1 through 4 hurricanes.
The parcel will be adversely impacted by sea level rise over time.
The proposed actions are located entirely within the
Coastal Erosion Hazard Area and the primary dune and natural
protective feature.
And a site visit of this area was conducted on October 17th, 2007.
In attendance at the site visit, among others, were representatives of
the Town of Southold Board of Trustees, the LWRP Coordinator Mark Terry,
and New York State DEC Environment Program Specialist, Robert McDonough,
which confirmed that the proposed actions are entirely located seaward of
the Coastal Erosion Hazard Area line and was in a primary dune. This
determination still applies.
The Conservation Advisory Council resolved to not support
the application. The proposed setbacks are too close to the
wetland boundary within the primary and secondary dune, and
within a flood zone. This is an environmentally sensitive area,
and any development of this property would deplete the natural
habitat.
The Trustees conducted a field inspection on August 9th,
noting that the proposed plans for the site include a crested structure
on a site with a primary dune, exceeding the pier line of adjacent
properties.
We do have a number of letters in the file here against
the project: one from Carolyn Yates, one from Lynn Normandia,
one from Richard Byrd. So all those are part of the file. They
have been read and reviewed by the Trustees.
Is there anyone here wishing to speak regarding this
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application?
MR. WOLPERT: For the applicant. Good evening, Members of the
Board and staff. Welcome to the new members that I have not met
before, but my name is Thomas Wolpert, I'm a civil engineer with
Young & Young of Riverhead, and we are representing the
applicant.
With me this evening is my business partner Doug Adams.
He's not only a licensed professional engineer but also a licensed
professional geologist.
The project architects are here, Ed Licalzi and his
associate AJ Doucet, and they are from the CMA Group of
Hauppauge. They designed the proposed house.
Also present is the applicant and property owner, Tony and
Markella Vournou, as well as their children. I think they are
probably in a state of shock right now and would like an
opportunity to address the Board at a later time this evening.
Just a brief background and project description. This is,
the subject property is a vacant lot with an area of 1.35 acres,
a little over an acre and a third. It's located at 1925 North
Sea Drive in Southold, bounded on the north by the Long Island
Sound.
The project generally consists of constructing a two-family house
and garage together with the associated site improvements, including
public water supply and sewage disposal system which would be
the new nitrogen reducing IA/OWTS.
The property is zoned residential R40 and with the required
architectural drawings that we submitted and are in the file,
the architect did a very comprehensive and detailed zoning
analysis, showing that this is a no-variance plan with respect
to the zoning requirements: Side yards, front yard, lot size,
lot width, lot depth, lot coverage and building height and
number of stories.
We started this process on or about November 12th of 2021.
The hearing sign was posted. The proposed structures were all
staked in time for inspection by the Trustees' visit on August 9th.
With regard to other permits and approvals, we do have a
pending application with New York State DEC. They came back to
us with some minor comments which we are in the process of
addressing.
We also have a pending application with the Suffolk County
Health Department, and again, some minor comments that we are in
the process of addressing.
That completes my brief presentation. I hope I was within
the five-minutes suggested limit, and at this time I would like
Mr. Ed Licalzi to come up and present the architectural design
so that the Board has a better understanding of what the
Vournou's are trying to accomplish here. Thank you.
(Trustee Krupski is now in attendance).
MR. LICALZI: Good evening, Members of the Trustee Board. Ed
Licalzi from HSR Engineering.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Excuse me, one second. Anybody wishing to
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speak just please spell your last name for the stenographer.
MR. LICALZI: Sure. L-1-C-A-L-Z-I, 6500 Jericho Turnpike,
Syosset, New York. -
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Sorry to interrupt you one more time. For the
record, Trustee Krupski is now in attendance.
MR. LICALZI: Members of the Board, if you would like, I could
just put out a display of some of the renderings that we brought
with us this evening. We thought might be helpful. Also if
there are any comments for or against the application, it might
be easier to represent that way.
TRUSTEE SEPENOSKI: It might also be beneficial at some point to
reverse the images so the audience can see as well.
MR. LICALZI: Sure. This represents the actual front elevation
proposed.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Sir, I'm sorry to interrupt you. Please
address it to the Board.
MR. LICALZI: Sorry. In our first rendering we are showing the
house, obviously facing the south, but obviously viewing the
Sound on the north side. The house is constructed with a living
room, living area to the right, an entrance foyer here to the
center, and a master bedroom located up a little higher on a
mezzanine level to the far left. The balcony is shown here in
the rendering as well. Front entrance, walkway and driveway, are
shown also.
This rendering is a view of the west, from the west. It
shows the master bedroom area here. You can see the entrance
driveway coming off of North Sea Drive, the entrance to the
house, and a view of the catwalk in the distance that is
proposed out toward the beach.
The rear elevation of the house is basically glass
throughout the whole rear elevation. You can see that. This is
obviously facing the north. There is a swimming pool in the
foreground, obviously cascading over the wall at the negative
edge on the pool. You see the master bedroom here facing the
water.
Last would be the east view of the right-side elevation of
the home, depicting the pool here, the Long Island Sound here,
and the natural estuary that exists out in the beach area. The
walkway entrance to the house. North Sea Drive here.
That being all the renderings that we have for you this
evening, I was wondering if you have any questions I maybe could
answer.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: No. I appreciate the architectural design
and everything. Our concerns are more environmental. So while I
appreciate the effort that you put into this, we have some
bigger issues concerning the environment, not necessarily the
look of the house. So I don't know if Mr. Wolpert means to
address that more so.
First, in,proximity to the pier line, this whole structure
is proposed seaward of the pier line and adjacent homes. As
currently proposed, it will have an adverse.effect on the
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wetlands in the Town. It's located in a primary dune. It's also
subject to flood damage, which can also affect the health,
safety and general welfare of the people of Southold Town. It's
also.going to affect the esthetic value of the wetlands and,
adjacent areas. It will affect the natural habitat of wildlife.
So while I appreciate the effort on this, that is the
bigger concern, and I believe that's also the concern of the
majority of the people here in this audience, and that's what we
as a Board need'to address, the environmental impact, where
right now as proposed it will have a severe environmental impact,
in our opinion.
So you'll have some work to do on this application before
we can move forward.
MR. LICALZI: I would also like to make a comment, if you don't
mind. We just learned of the term "pier line," something we
didn't notice in the code at all, actually.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: It's actually in Chapter 275-11(a)(3). New
and remodeled homes cannot be situated or modified such that
they project closer to the wetland boundary than the mean
seaward projection of homes in the general vicinity and on
either side of the subject lot.
MR. LICALZI: Okay, .thank you.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Thank you.
At this time I'll ask Elizabeth to pull up a picture we
.took today, a drone photo, that shows an aerial view of where
the proposed home is to be located. So it's apparently very
clear that it is seaward of all the adjacent houses in that
neighborhood.
Mr. Wolpert, seeing as everything that we just stated would
affect the environment and all the reasons why this is in
violation currently, would you wish to table to come up with a
new plan to address all those concerns?
MR. WOLPERT: Yes, certainly, we would want to consult with the
client and his architect and come back with --
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: So I appreciate that, because we have a
packed house here tonight, and I'm sure they are all of the same
mind, and I don't want to waste people's time about looking at
this application that Will not be the final product which we
vote on.
If you want us to vote on what is before us right now
MR. WOLPERT: We do not want you to vote.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: I did not think so. So, hearing that, and
knowing that this will be tabled for another month, is there
anyone else here wishing to speak regarding this application?
And I'll preface that by saying what is in front of you and
what has been proposed is not what we will ultimately vote on,
so if your concerns are as it is.currently laid out, I would ask
you to hold your comments until a later date when we do have a
final set of plans that's ready for voting.
MR. BOMBARA: Robert Bombara, I'm the owner of 1725 North Sea
Drive, Southold, and I hate for these people to go through what
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I had to go through. Nine years to get the permit. But, as a
result of that, it was clearly established, and you set a
precedent. No part of this premises should exceed past what I
was allowed to build. And that will stay in the line. And if it
meets that criteria, I have no objection to what they build.
But, they cannot exceed what we call, it's the DEC line or as
Mr. Wolpert knows, because he was my surveyor at the time as
well, The Herrmann line. Set by Robert Herrmann of the New York
State DEC. Set it down, and we could not go one inch past that
line. As long as this building is here --
MS. HULSE: Sir, the Trustees have already recognized that and
made that part of the record. So you are reiterating what they
already put on the record. But I understand your point
tremendously.
MR. BOMBARA: Thank you.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Thank you, sir. Is there anyone else who
wishes to speak to this application?
MR. VOURNOU: How are you doing, Board. Nice to meet you. My name
is Tony Vournou, this is my wife Markella. This is not what I
expected this evening. We are not here to disappoint any
neighbors or anything like that. Our dream is to have a beach
house, and we were very fortunate to pick up this property. I
think the neighborhood is stellar. It's beautiful.
We walked around and met some of the people here already,
and at the time we walked around, we asked some questions, and I
didn't see this coming at all this evening. So I'm a little
upset, but, um, we are not looking to make enemies here. Once we
do the drawings and do it, if we have to meet internally with
the people, we have no problem. We are here to please. We don't
want to build a house and have people throw rocks at our house.
You know, we want our kids to play with the people's kids in the
neighborhood, play with the grandchildren. And this house, we'll
put a first-floor bedroom and an elevator in it because I plan
to die looking at the Long Island Sound. So, that's the truth.
We are not looking --
MS. HULSE: Sir, I know your neighbors are here and you wish to
address them but this is really the Board's time. So if you
wish to address the Board about anything in particular, I think
your representative has already indicated he wishes to table it.
So if you could address your comments specific to the Board's
concerns.
MR. VOURNOU: Yes. So my background, I went to school for
architecture. I'm a contractor. I respect, obviously, the DEC
and code. You know, I restored Theodore Roosevelt's house. I
restored the old courthouse in Mineola. I'm very familiar with
preserving land, protecting water, and trying not to change any
of it. That's all. I don't know. Markella, do you want to say
anything?
My wife Markella grew up in Mattituck for the most part,
every summer. So, I want to make my wife happy. Happy wife,
happy life. We all know that. So.
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TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: As you stated, with familiarity with code,
the two codes that pretty much control what this Board does are
Chapter 275 and Chapter.111. So if you make yourself familiar
with that, you can see where we stand and where the obstacles
are.
MR. VOURNOU: I understand. We'll address everything. And
we'll get it done together.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Okay, thank you, sir.
MR. VOURNOU: Thank you, very much. Nice meeting you all, Hope to
see you next,time under better circumstances.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Yes, sir.
MS. HARRISON: Good evening, Trustees, I'm Louise Harrison. I'm a
conservation biologist. I work for Save The Sound but I'm
representing myself tonight. I live in Peconic, and none of my
comments have anything to do with the organization I work for.
I have worked for the Department of State, so I'm familiar
with coastal consistency. I agree with the LWRP review tonight,
and I know that my comments need to be restricted to helpful
suggestions, and not to reiterate what you have already
discussed and have put before us this evening.
It appears to me the applicant has put a great deal of
resources into this application in the form of architecture and
legal representation, but I would suggest some strong
environmental credentials be added to their application.
It's not sufficient in any application to be dismissive of
the landscape and just describe it as grass and brush. Plants
have names and species, and any credible application should be
able to note not only the names of the species, but the kind of
habitat that will be removed. And in a short, quick, eyeballing
of the property yesterday, from the road, I was able to note
post oak, black oak, eastern red cedar, bayberry, black cherry,
.black locust, American beach grass and beach plum. And some of
those, including the black cherry and eastern red cedar, are
ancient organisms that have been on that site for probably a
couple hundred years; stout and twisted and have moved with the
wind in a very, very tough environment for plants to live. And
what they constitute is a, as you well know, a dunal community.
But they also have habitat connectivity to the habitat to the
south, right across North Sea Drive, which as you all know is an
inter-dunal swale that has its own habitat characteristics that
are worth saving.
And so, in favor of habitat contiguity, something to think
about, where you have Long Island Sound crossing -- you have
habitat that crosses from Long Island Sound, across a beach,
across a primary dune, through a dune community, quick hop
across North Sea Drive, which gets barely no traffic, and into
an inter-dunal swale, that is something in and of itself worth
preserving.
So if this application has to go forward in some way and
can be reduced in some manner of size, I would suggest that you
ask for some preservation of the habitat corridor that reaches
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from Long Island Sound south to, into the inter-dunal swale,
that could be preserved through construction and in perpetuity.
Also, the amount of glass on this structure was alarming.
Any amount of glass like that should include bird-friendly panes
of glass so we can avoid bird strikes.
And the last thing I want to say to you this evening,
Trustees, is in spite of your tremendous workload, I hope you
can start to take a proactive stance towards our remaining open
space in Southold. And I began identifying areas that you can
suggest for the Community Preservation Fund. This is the last
access point through the dunes in that beach area, and it would
have been perfect for the Town to own it.
So please think about that going forward, maybe put a
little extra time into identifying some more future open space
for us. And I thank you for your time this evening.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Thank you.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I would say the Board does put quite a bit of
extra time into trying to preserve the Town of Southold, and we, the
Town in general is a little short on funds, so we are always
looking for donations if you would like to help us out.
But also to that point, I do think it would be most
appropriate if you look at the satellite photos, if you go
survey the site and the area, certainly this whole property
would have to be a non-disturbance area outside of the building
envelope, or even the building and then once the structure is
done, close it in up into the house. It's a primary dune and
the majority of the lot should remain one after construction.
MR. LICALZI: Can I respond very quickly?
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: One moment. Sir?
DR. BURRASCANO: Thank you, Trustees. I'm Dr. Joseph Burrascano,
I'm a year-round, full-time resident of North Sea Drive and
Southold.
Basically I wrote up a whole summary using Town Code as a
reference, and basically I'm not saying anything differently
from what you said already, but in light of the environmental
concerns, you know, part of the concern that I had, if a
structure is to be built at all, is the entire structure as
proposed is within Zone VE. VE, for those who don't know, is a
flood zone. And the property is divided along parallel to North
Sea Drive by a boundary between the A Zone and the V Zone. A Zone
means possibility of damage from high water. V means damage
including structural damage, from wave action. And we know
that's your job.
Paragraph 148, Section 2, about considering things that
materials that might be swept onto other lands. In fact, the
definition of a VE Zone is potential for structural damage due
to wave action with the possibility of spreading debris along the
beach into the water and into adjoining properties.
So that we have already established. However, looking at
the property, even if this were shrunk and put completely behind
the V Line, into the A Zone, where the other houses are, by the
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way, you know, just looking at the. property, I'm seeing the
entire structure in the VE Zone, all of the decking and stair
access points, an inground pool and all the pool mechanicals, a
full-size house with elevator, gazebo, storage area and
boardwalk far in the VE Zone; a 1,200-gallon propane tank buried
in the VE zone. I encountered five drywells in the VE zone.
And in fact one half of the entire septic system is in the VE Zone.
Now, of course maybe we can push this back into the A Zone,
but in light of disturbing the environment, how can you put a
pool, decking, house, sewer, buried tanks, drywells, a 4,000
square-foot driveway, and not disturb what is left? There's got
to be some access that is totally undisturbed, and whether you say,
well, I'm not going to put up fences, and by the way, on either
side of the house is proposed concrete retaining walls, also in
the VE Zone, and fill added also in the V zone, so --
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: I apologize for interrupting you, sir, but,
again, what you are commenting on will not be in the final
product, so I ask you to reserve --
DR. BURRASCANO: Okay. Even if it's back in the A Zone, all this
structure, it's going to be a massive damage to the environment,
and to the natural nature of that piece of land. So I don't
think anything should be built there.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Thank you.
MS. VITTI: Good evening, Trustees. My name is'lrene Vitti. I'm
the owner of 1930 North Sea Drive, which is the swale area that
one of the speakers referred to, immediately adjacent but across.
the street from the subject parcel.
Thank you, for bringing this matter to the attention of the
community, and for hearing so much as you-can tonight.
I have had very little time to review this proposal. I only
received it over the weekend, but here are my initial
impressions.
I find that the applicant's plans are quite honestly
shocking. I inspected the'site yesterday. I can barely catch my
breath. I'm very familiar with it because I've lived across-the
street for 25 years. I've gazed on it, I've walked through it.
I've observed the vegetation and the wildlife that is there. And
I will not repeat what others have already said, but just to add
to the concerns that I have. I think it was mentioned that
there was a risk of contamination to the groundwater, but let me
elaborate that when they eventually landscape whatever they
build there, there will be discharge of herbicides, pesticides
and,fertilizers, used to maintain the landscape.
Now, I know that your.instructions or the instructions of
the Zoning Board or the Building Department are not to do that,
but we all know that it happens nevertheless.
We have some endangered, threatened and protected species
that live there. I have seen them. Regularly. I'll just name
them: Piping Plovers; Eastern Box Turtles and Red Foxes. The
likelihood of them returning after that site is disturbed, there
is none. They will not come back. I have seen it in parcel after
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parcel that has been developed on this stretch of waterfront.
The existing vegetation, somebody spoke to quite well, but let
me add to that, there are native grasses, beach plums, which
also native, and roses. Some.of which are native, as you know.
And then I think the thing that impacts all of us, whether
we live there or not, is that it will result in loss of open
space. A beautiful vista. Stunning vista. And it will add to
the blight that we are now facing of light pollution by putting
another structure along that strand of beach:
So I only had a short time, as I said. I would like
permission to submit further written comments, whether to this
meeting or further meeting, but I would like to introduce
Ms. Martha Reichert. She.is a land use expert who I engaged only
.yesterday because I had so little time, but I was so deeply
concerned that I thought it was worth well to have an expert
speak. And she will further elaborate.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Just again, to reiterate, we have spoken
about the environmental impacts. We have instructed the
applicant that they have a lot of homework to do. So what we
are commenting on at this point is premature because they
definitely have to go back to the drawing board to address the
comments that everybody has already spoken about, as well as-the
Board. So -=
MS. VITTI: Well, I assure you she will be brief and it's merely
to lay a foundation as well.
MS. REICHERT: Thankyou, Members of the Board. My name is
Martha Reichert, I'm with the law firm of Twomey Latham, located
at 33 West Second Street, Riverhead.
I'll keep my comments very brief because I understand this
won't be the application that will be decided upon. But I think
in addition to concurring with the findings that this is not
consistent with the LWRP, it's not consistent with the standards
for the issuance of a permit under Chapters 111 and 275.
One of the elements of the application that I didn't really
see addressed in any of the reports, but I think is important
for this Board to discuss and for the applicant to consider as
it revises its plans,r is the amount of fill that was proposed.
One of the drawings shows the limit of the fill extending very
far seaward and so the applicant has proposed, they've
represented on the application that they are going to reuse fill
from excavated parts of the property during construction, but I
still think that the impact of (a), mining, or digging nearly
700 cubic yards of primary dune sand is concerning, and then
redistributing it across the property on an area as widespread
as they are currently depicting also has serious environmental
concerns. So I would hope that the applicant can find a way to
minimize that site disturbance, especially to the primary dune.
And I'll limit my comments just to that for right now.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Thank you. Before we go in, Mr. Wolpert, I
think potentially it would be a good idea to schedule a -
pre-submission for our next field inspection so we can address.
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the concerns that the Board has as well as the public has
brought up out in the field and meet in the field.
MS. VOURNOU: Hi. Markella Vournou. I'm sorry, I was a little
shell-shocked when I came in and my husband came in.
As he said, my grandfather built a house in Mattituck in
1965. 1 have been summering here my whole life. I love the north
fork. I want to preserve the integrity of the north fork. And I
understand my neighbors have environmental concerns, but I also
realize that when they built their homes that some trees had to
be plucked, birds were relocated. Even, you know, birds who
were endangered. And we deserve to be here as much as anybody
else. We love nature, and if we didn't, we wouldn't be spending
all these resources here in the north fork. We would be in
Manhattan or some other busy city. We want to be here because we
love the north fork, we love what it represents. And we are
just good, family people, we are not trying to step on anybody's
feathers. We don't, you know, want to build this crazy monstrosity to
stress people out and uproot the values of the community. I
just wanted to say that.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Thank you.
TRUSTEE PEEPLES: Thank you.
TRUSTEE GILLOOLY:_Thank you.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: As we mentioned, we'll meet with your
expediter out in the field for a pre-submission. You guys are
more than welcome to be there as well to hear our concerns and
discuss.
MR. MASTRO: Louis Mastro.
MS. MASTRO: Elizabeth Mastro.
MR. MASTRO: We live at 2025 North Sea Drive.
MS. MASTRO: We are neighbors to them.
MR. MASTRO: We are on the east end border of the project. I just
want to point out, make a note about the history of the area. We
have been coming out since 1961, and 20 years ago we had such
bad erosion along North Sea Drive. It was created by the
engineers, army engineers, saying it was the jetty that was
causing it. And they wanted to take half of it away so the
migrating sand would come down. 20 years ago we had such bad
erosion along all North Sea Drive. People were putting boulders
out, putting plants in, and trying to stop this nature from just
taking away the property.
Now you look.at the surveys, it's.two-years old. The high
tide mark looks good, 300 feet from the street. But it was not
that.
I used to be able to, from the street, throw a rock into
the water. That's how close the water was 20 years ago. And a
storm, a hurricane, nor'easter could take that away. And also I
want to point out that being so familiar with the area, there is
a berm in the front and then the property, the sand goes down.
So the elevation of sand is much lower than it was 20 years
ago.,Much lower. The storms come over the berm and then floods
out there and it kills the sea grass when that happens.
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So I know things change and erosion happens, but I think
it's all, even in your interest, to --
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: You need to address the Board, please.
MS. MASTRO: Our concern is we have the little house right there,
and the way this house is going to come up, we are going to see
nothing but a house. I'm sorry --
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Ma'am, you need to address the Board.
MS. HULSE: Your comments have to be addressed only to the Board.
It can't be back out to the audience. One person has to speak at
a time because the stenographer is taking the Minutes. So one
or the other is fine. So if you can continue. .
MS. MASTRO: So the only concern that we have, we met the owners,
I mean, they can build whatever they want. They purchased the
property, it was for'sale for everyone to buy. They bought it
and of course they are going through hell. And we wish them luck
and I hope they get a house. But how big of a scale, we really
don't mind, as long as it's not past our property. Because in
the bedroom the only thing we are going to see is a wall of a
house and nothing else. That's the only thing.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Thank you. That's what we already discussed
with the applicant. Thank you.
MS. MASTRO: Because we are right next door. Thank you.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Is there anyone else wishing to speak
regarding this application?
MR. VERNI: Michael Verni. I'm at 2125 North Sea Drive, two
houses away from the applicant's property.
Um, basically the same thing. You know, I'm a more visceral
person. Don't ask for intellect from this body. But we've been
coming out here to that particular house since 1964, since I was
a little kid. I'm 66-years old now. And I purchased my house 30
years ago from my friend who's the guitar player for Cindi
Lauper, we played in the music business together. And I had the
opportunity to purchase it as a vacation home. And I'm blessed
to now be semi-retired and living here full-time.
However, I believe it's very possible that due to a
misunderstanding on either the architect's part or whatever,
where the house is placed is more of a problem than anything
else. Again, size, listen, you could build the Taj Mahal,-shoot
for the moon, get what you can, I get it. But when I can't even
put a kiddy pool in for my six-year old son on the side of my
house because the DEC line is right behind my house, and I can't
put anything back there. This cannot stand. Because I can't
put up a shed, I can't put up anything. Even to hold my kid's
toys. My kid's toys are all outside. It just can't stand.
However, like I said, I believe that if the applicant was
to move the proposed building back or possibly scale it down, I
don't think we would have a problem. As a matter of fact, I love
ultra-modern. Most people don't. I just don't have the money.
to build it. So have at it, bring all the specs up, everything
would be beautiful.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Thank you, sir.
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TRUSTEE GILLOOLY: Thank you.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Anyone else here wish to speak regarding this
application?
(No response).
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Any other questions or comments from the
Board?
(Negative response).
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Hearing none, I make a motion to table this
application.
TRUSTEE GILLOOLY: Second.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I recuse myself from the vote.
(Trustees Goldsmith, Sepenoski, Gillooly and Peeples, vote aye)
(Trustee Krupski, recused).
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: . As everyone leaves, if you can understand, we
have another ten public hearings, so if you can exit the building before
conversing with your neighbors, we would appreciate it.'Thank you.
MS. HULSE: Make a note that Trustee Krupski requested to recuse
himself because he was not present for the entire meeting.
WETLAND PERMITS:
TRUSTEE SEPENOSKI: Number one under Wetland Permits, Young &
Young on behalf of KATHLEEN & LYLE GIRANDOLA requests a Wetland
Permit to demolish and remove existing 1-1/2 story dwelling,
remove a portion of existing driveway, and abandon existing
sanitary system; construct a new two-story dwelling with a
1,577sq.ft. footprint, a 144sq.ft. front porch, a 344sq.ft.
covered rear patio, and a 40sq.ft rear balcony; renovate
existing 442sq.ft garage; remove a portion of existing driveway
for a 3,240sq.ft. driveway; abandon or remove existing cesspool
and install a new IA/OWTS system consisting of one (1) 600
gallon treatment unit and two (2) sanitary leaching pools;
install underground electric service and public water service;
install gutter to leaders to drywells to contain roof and
driveway runoff.
Located: ,3040 Great Peconic Bay Boulevard, Laurel. SCTM# 1000-128-6-10
The Trustees most recently visited the site on 8/9/22, and
the notes from that inspection read: Need to show adjacent
houses for pier line.
The LWRP found the application to be consistent, and noted
it is recommended the setback from the structure to the bulkhead
be shown. Note that the property would be most impacted by
Category 4 hurricanes.
The Conservation Advisory Council resolved to support the
application.
There seems to-be some inconsistency with the language here
of support. It says the Conservation Advisory Council does not
support the application because the proposed setbacks are not
compliant with Chapter 275 of the Town Code, and there is room
to move the structures further landward.
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The Trustees are in.receipt of new plans stamped August
17th, 2022, which address both Conservation Advisory Council and
LWRP concerns.
Is there anyone here who wishes to speak regarding this
application?
MR. WOLPERT: Thomas Wolpert, Engineer with Young & Young of
Riverhead, representing the applicant Lyle and Kathleen Girandola,
who are also here tonight. And if there are any questions of them, I'm
sure that would be happy to get up and speak.
In way of the project background and description, the
subject property is a 26,710 square-foot parcel with an existing
one-and-one-half story frame house and a garage. Detached.
garage. The project generally consists of demolishing the
existing one-and-one-half story house and replacing it not in
the same footprint but actually further landward than the
existing footprint, with a two-story house.
We initiated this application on or about November 15th of
2021, and as the Trustee stated, we did deliver two revised
building permit surveys which showed the relocation of the
proposed two-story frame house to respect the pier line.
And as far as other permits and approvals, we were issued a
New York State DEC tidal wetlands, well, I'm sorry, letter of no
jurisdiction from the Tidal Wetlands Act, because all of the
proposed activities were landward of the ten-foot elevation
contour.
Part of this process involved an application and approval
from the Town of Southold Zoning Board of Appeals for side yard
setbacks. I think we are actually improving the side yard
setbacks over the existing structure.
We do have a pending application with the Suffolk County
Department of Health, and of course the proposed method of water
supply is by connection to the existing Suffolk County Water
Authority main on Peconic Bay Boulevard. And we are proposing
the new Innovative Alternative Onsite Wastewater Treatment
System.
So that completes my five-minute presentation, and anyone
who has any questions of either me or the owner/applicant, we
would be happy to accept.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Thank you.
TRUSTEE SEPENOSKI: Anyone else wish to speak regarding this
application?
(Negative response).
Any questions or comments from the Board?
(Negative response).
Hearing none, I make a motion to close this hearing.
TRUSTEE PEEPLES: Second.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE SEPENOSKI: I'll make a motion to approve this
application with new plans stamped August 17th, 2022.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Second.
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TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE GILLOOLY: Number 2, Young &Young on behalf of STEPHEN &
JACQUELINE DUBON requests a Wetland Permit for the existing
1,118sq.ft. one-.story dwelling and for the demolition and
removal of certain existing structures (project meets Town Code
definition of demolition), within and outside of the existing
dwelling to facilitate construction of the proposed additions
and alterations consisting of a proposed 45sq.ft. addition to
northeast corner, and a 90sq.ft. addition to southeast corner
for a 1,,195sq.ft. total footprint after additions; construct a
1,195sq.ft. second story addition; a 70sq.ft. second-story
balcony; replace and expand existing easterly.deck with a
320sq.ft. deck with 69sq.ft. of deck stairs to ground; replace
and expand existing porch with a 40sq.ft. porch and 20sq.ft.
porch stairs to ground; install one (1) new drywell for roof
runoff; abandon two (2) existing cesspools and install a new
IA/OWTS system consisting of one (1) 500-gallon treatment unit
and 46 linear feet of graveless absorption trenches and for the
existing 84sq.ft. shed.
Located: 5605 Stillwater Avenue, Cutchogue. SCTM# 1000-137-4-3.2
The LWRP reviewed this application and found it to be
consistent. They did note to clarify the use and ownership of
the right-of-way where the sanitary system and wall are
proposed. The right-of-way connects to Stillwater Road.
The Trustees most recently visited the site on August 9th,
noting that we would like to see the septic and wall outside of
wetland boundary, and that it needs to have a non-turf buffer
added to the project.
Is there anyone here wishing to speak regarding this
application?
MR. WOLPERT: Yes. Thomas Wolpert, with Young & Young of
Riverhead, representing the applicant Stephen Dubon and
Jacqueline Dubon, who are also here. And again, I'm sure they
would be happy to answer any questions that the Board may have.
The subject property is an 11,320 square-foot parcel on
Stillwater Avenue. It's bounded on the south by Indian Creek,
and the project generally consists of adding two small
first-floor additions and a second story to the existing
one-story house.
The New York State DEC issued a tidal wetlands permit for
this project on May 23rd of this year. We had a pending
application with the Suffolk County Health Department for
construction of water and sewer. Water will be by way of
connection to the existing Suffolk County Water Authority main
on Stillwater Avenue, and the sewage disposal,will bean
IA/OWTS.. That's all I have.
. I don't quite understand the concerns of the Board with
regard to placement of the small stone retaining wall and
leaching trenches within the wetland boundary because according
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to our survey the wetland boundary is at least 60 or 70 feet
I'll say east of--sorry, I get my directions mixed up. At
least 60 to 70 feet away from the end of those two proposed
leaching trenches. So I don't quite understand that. There is
an overgrown area that when we staked the proposed sanitary
leaching trench for inspection by the Trustees, it did appear in
some of the overgrown area, but we did not identify that as a
wetland. So I'm not sure how we can resolve that difference of
opinion. And I'm open to suggestions.
TRUSTEE GILLOOLY: Thank you. Any comments from the Board?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Well, I have two questions. One would be a
concern with the location of the wetland. And the other
question, which I'll ask first, is I believe that area to be a
right-of-way for the neighborhood, and this seems to cross over
the right-of-way. So could you speak to that first?
MR. WOLPERT: Yes. The right-of-way that we show on the building
permit survey, it does appear that the leaching trenches and the
future expansion reserve area are within that right-of-way,
however, I'm not sure where the concern is because those are
underground structures and would not impede the flow of the
pedestrian traffic. Even if this area were cleared. But as I
understand it, and the Dubon's could probably speak to that
better than me, I believe they walk across their property now,
the people that want to get to the water. So they are not even
traversing that right-of-way. But again, the proposed structures
are underground, nobody would even know they are there. So I'm
not sure there is any restriction on placing underground
structures in that right-of-way.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: What about the retaining wall?
MR. WOLPERT: The retaining wall is just a very small stone
retaining wall to hold back some of the fill so that we can
achieve compliance with Health Department.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Just for clarification, how high is a "small
retaining wall,"for the record?
MR. WOLPERT: One to two foot.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: One to two feet?
MR.-WOLPERT: Yes.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Just at a glance, someone trying to traverse
down there with a Sunfish or a kayak or a paddle board is going
to have a problem with a one to two-foot wall on the right-of-way.
MR. WOLPERT: The issues that we had in laying out this sanitary
design, we are extremely limited by the lot.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I understand that.
MR. WOLPERT: And the adjacent Eugene Creek, in fact we sought
and received a variance from the DEC to place the structures
where we have them. So I just don't see room elsewhere on the
site where we are retaining the existing footprint of the house
so we don't have the opportunity to move the house. So we are
very limited as to where we can place these leaching trenches.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: So one of the problems for us is that everyone
that has legal access to that right-of-way would have to be on
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board with the project. We can't approve something in a
right-of-way without the participation of all the residents.
MR. WOLPERT: What is the mechanism for obtaining that
authorization?
MS. HULSE: You can get it in writing from them. They.can submit
that to the Board directly or you can submit it yourself, but
there has to be some authorization.
MR. WOLPERT: Who has a list of the --
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I certainly don't.
MR. DUBON: We can get them.
MR. WOLPERT: Okay.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: And then my second question is, I'm very
familiar with this neighborhood, and I would dispute that
wetland line. Up until about a year or two ago there's quite a
bit of Baccharis, which I would say would indicate a high tide,
you know, an upland marsh area. l would like to see, and I
understand this is a difficult lot. I understand that it is
hard to place material because it is small and, but I would
appreciate it being pulled out of that low-lying area, if
possible.
MR. WOLPERT: The leaching trenches?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Yes, that's correct.
MR. WOLPERT: Do you have a suggestion on where we might place
them?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I understand it's a difficult lot. I
.unfortunately don't. But--
TRUSTEE GILLOOLY: I do think that there is an opportunity maybe
to turn it and to go underneath the deck expansion that is
planned or in the front yard. I mean, we do appreciate the IA
system and we, you know, like that you are doing that, and we
understand --
MR. WOLPERT: I appreciate your appreciation.
TRUSTEE GILLOOLY: But, yes. Unfortunately --
MR. WOLPERT: The Health Department would never allow us to put
leaching trenches under a deck. So this is literally what we
thought of was the optimum spot for it, but maybe, Trustee
Krupski, we could somehow reconcile the actual wetland boundary
a little bit better. (.don't know how quite to do that unless we
hire an environmental consultant.
TRUSTEE GILLOOLY: Is there anyone else here wishing to speak
regarding this application?
MR. WOLPERT: This is my business partner Doug Adams, he's a licensed
professional engineer and also a professional geologist
MR. ADAMS: Doug Adams, Young &Young.
Just to address a couple of comments you made. We are
looking to the right-of-way and what limitations are set by, you
know, the stuff as proposed that we have here, we'll see what's in the
title of the property. So we'll find out what the exact language is in the
deed regarding this right-of-way and also find out who else has
rights to that right-of-way.
Regarding the wall, the short wall that we have there, it
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is only on the one half of the right-of-way that this property
is encumbered by, and it doesn't cross,the whole thing. So
there would be ways to direct pedestrian traffic around it, or
some sort of similar type of masonry step to get up it, to just
walk straight across it. I just wanted to deliver that note
about how we can traverse this impediment.
TRUSTEE GILLOOLY: Thank you.
MR. ADAMS: And also, I'm sorry, on the delineation of the Young &
Young tidal wetland as you, it's kind of a tricky, subjective
thing.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I can appreciate that.
MR. ADAMS: And I was actually there today and even though it
was high tide in the water; it was past where we delineate it,
but it's also if you look at the tide charts and the history of
the tide tables, it's an exceptionally high tide, it happens to be
today for whatever reason. But the vegetation, as you mentioned,
is different above where we have'it. So I think we have to
coordinate on how we can get a better line put in. But I don't
believe at the end of the one leaching field that we have there
is a couple feet into that brush that is actually wetland, so.
But we can look at reconfiguring the stuff to get it a little
further away`as we can, considering it's a bad kind of geometric
shape and get them in as well, and doing an IA system, so we did
note that the leach agent that is in those is dramatically less
than a regular system, so.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Thank you.
TRUSTEE PEEPLES: Thank you.
TRUSTEE GILLOOLY: Thank you. Any other questions or comments?
MR. DUBON: Hi. Stephen Dubon. I'm the applicant. I just wanted.
to address the actual right-of-way. I don't believe any part of
that is on my property. I believe it's all north of the property
through that brush area, and we just allowed for, because we are
north forkers for 20-something years, my brother owned the
property, and we have.been there for six years, people to
traverse through our yard.And we'll allow that forever, but if,
you know, you look at some of the descriptions that this came
from Southold Town, so the right-of-way is well north of the
property line. So it's not actually just where it's mowed on my
lawn. It's inside the brush, but nobody uses it. Nobody is going
to maintain that. So we allow people to walk through the property.
TRUSTEE GILLOOLY: Thank you.
TRUSTEE SEPENOSKI: Thank you.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Thank you.
TRUSTEE GILLOOLY: Any other questions or comments from the
Board?
(No response).
Hearing none, I make a motion to table this application pending
further review.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Second.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
Board of Trustees 28 August 17, 2022
MR. WOLPERT: Thank you, have a good night.
TRUSTEE PEEPLES: Number 3, East End Pool King on behalf of
KIERAN COLLINGS requests a Wetland Permit to install a proposed
16'x32' vinyl swimming pool with approximately 1,300sq.ft. at
grade patio; install pool enclosure fencing; install a drywell
for pool waste water; and install a pool equipment area.
Located: 3960 Ole Jule Lane, Mattituck. SCTM# 1000-122-4-26.1
The Trustees recently visited this site back on May 10th of
2022, and noted that comments from the prior month are still
applicable; to adjust the pool to maximize the distance from the
wetlands.
We did receive new plans stamped and dated August 10th of
2022, that show a reduced-size swimming pool as noted by a
letter here from East End Pool King that decreased the size of
the pool to 16'x30' from the original 16'x32', and they
shortened the patio between the house and the pool by five feet,
changing it from 21' to 16'.
The LWRP finds this application consistent.
And the Conservation Advisory Council resolved to not
support the application for the installation of the pool as
submitted.
Is there anyone here wishing to speak in regard to this
application?
(Negative response).
I would like to just note that during our work session and
review of the updated plans, that while there is a ten-foot
non-turf buffer that has been added to a certain portion of the
landward side of the timber bulkhead, we would like to request
that that ten-foot non-turf buffer follows the contour of the
timber bulkhead so that it then spans from the property line to
the property line on each side.
Are there any other comments from the Board?
(Negative response).
Hearing none, I make a motion to close this hearing.
TRUSTEE GILLOOLY: Second.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE PEEPLES: I make a motion to approve this application
with the condition that the ten-foot non-turf buffer is extended
the entire length from property line to property line, and it
follows the contour of the timber bulkhead. And we would need
this in receipt of an updated plan showing this description.
That is any motion.
TRUSTEE GILLOOLY: Second.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Number 4, JOSEPH F. BARSZCZEWSKI, JR.
requests a Wetland Permit for the as-built clearing; install a 3
foot wide by 1 foot high soil berm; and plant 12 Eastern Red
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Cedars (3" caliper), and 12 Baccharis Halimifolia bushes.
Located: 110 Lawrence Lane, Greenport. SCTM# 1000-53-2-7
The LWRP found this to be consistent. A couple of notes.
This is a continuation of a permit on a property we issued in 2020.
The new work is minor and is recommended at consistent.
The Conservation Advisory Council resolved to support this
application.
The Trustees conducted an inhouse review August 9th. We
reviewed new plans at work session. The new plans are the same
as the old plans for the permit that had since expired, so this
is just a continuation.
Is there anyone here wishing to speak regarding this application?
(Negative response). ,
Any questions or comments from the Board?
(Negative response).
Hearing none, I make a motion to close this hearing.
TRUSTEE SEPENOSKI: Second.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: I make a motion to approve this application
as submitted.
TRUSTEE PEEPLES: Second.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Number 5, JOSEPH F. & LINDA SCIOTTO requests a
Wetland Permit for the existing 2,011 sq.ft. two-story dwelling
with a 400sq.ft. second floor balcony, a 7'x24' west side porch,
a 3'4"x10' stoop on seaward side, an existing 6'8"x6'7" outdoor
shower, and an existing 6'x7'4" Jacuzzi; remove existing garage
and shed; construct a new 1,166sq.ft. two-story addition onto
the landward side of existing dwelling on top of a 4" reinforced
concrete foundation slab with a proposed one-story 10'x12' shed
attached to landward side of addition; the existing 14'8"x15'4"
front porch to be expanded an additional 8'2"'x10' to connect to
new addition; and to install gutters to leaders to drywells for
the addition.
Located: 8380 Great Peconic Bay Boulevard, Laurel. SCTM# 1000-126-11-20
The.LWRP coordinator found this to be inconsistent. The
structures were constructed without obtaining a wetland permit.
The Conservation Advisory Council resolved to support the
application, however, questions the materials being used for the
driveway. Also concerned with the removal of established oak and
pine trees.
The Board is also in receipt of a letter from the neighbor
dated received today, August 17th. The project appears to be an
over-intensive use for such a small-lot that already has a large
house, large inground pool, hardened deck and various other
improvements. This proposal,doubles the size of the existing,
which requires cutting down countless trees on the lot along the
public way with unknown ecological impact.
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Further, the application is essentially building an
entirely new dwelling. What is described as garage project is
more accurately described as a second home on the property, with
a height of 23.5 square-feet. I respectfully request an
adjournment of this hearing. And that is Kathleen Pillai.
There is another one, there was a delay in the noticing,
so they are asking for an adjournment (perusing).
The Trustees visited the property on the 9th of August and
noted that it was a straightforward application.
Is there anyone here that wishes to speak regarding the
application?
MR. CERVON: Larry Cervon, 8460 Peconic Bay Boulevard, directly
east of the proposed property.
I'm not sure I have any specific objections, I'm just
concerned with the height of the structure, and I'm not sure if
that's this group or the Planning Board.
We have a structure on the other side of us that is
towering, so I was just concerned with the size of this
structure.
And the other note is just there is no mention of the
removal of any additional trees between our property and theirs.
I just want to make sure that doesn't happen.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Thank you. Is there anyone else wishing to
speak regarding this application or additional comments from the
Board?
MR. SCIOTTO: Good evening, Members of the Board, my name is
Joseph Sciotto. This is my wife Linda. As far as I know, the new
addition is actually further away from the property line of said
concern than the existing garage that will be demolished. And
it is to my knowledge that there will be no further trees that
will need to be removed.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: My only question about the trees for that was I
believe at our site.visit, and I think in discussions with your,
wife, are you moving the driveway over and kind of taking out
all those trees there?
MR. SCOTT: Well, we were hoping to have the driveway moved
further to the west side of the property, which might require
the need to have removal of some trees. If that's an issue, we
would be more than happy to leave the driveway where it is. We
are not looking to cause any problems here.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Okay, so this Board does have a practice of
trying to protect native trees and vegetation.
MR. SCIOTTO: Sure. I understand.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: For myself, I think if you do end up taking
down trees for the driveway, I would be comfortable with
something along the lines of a one-for-one replacement with
native species. So if you do move it over, maybe relocate or
replant some new native trees. Would that be something you
would be amenable to?
MR. SCIOTTO: Sure, absolutely.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Thank you. Are there any additional comments
Board of Trustees 31 August 17, 2022
from the Board or anyone else from the public that wishes to speak?
(No response).
Hearing no further comments, I'll make a motion to close the hearing.
TRUSTEE SEPENOSKI: Second.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I make motion to approve the application with
the stipulation any trees that are removed during construction
are replaced on a one-to-one replacement with native species,
and by granting this permit will thereby be bringing this into
consistency with the LWRP coordinator.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Second. All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE SEPENOSKI: Number 6, Cole Environmental Consulting on
behalf of GERARD & KAREN DIFFLEY requests a Wetland Permit to
demolish existing dwelling, deck, driveway and curb; construct a
new±48'6" x±61'2" two-story irregular shaped dwelling
(±2,354sq.ft.) with a full basement (±2,354sq.ft.); remove ±387
cubic yards of soil for the full basement; construct a ±24' x
±5' front porch; a ±21' x ±5' rear porch; a ±4' x±5' entry
stoop on east side; install a ±40' x ±35' irregular shaped stone
patio with a ±15' x 15' shade porch; install a ±30' x±14'
in-ground swimming pool with a max depth of±7'; proposed patio,
shade porch and pool to be on-grade; install a drywell for pool
discharge; install a pool enclosure fencing; install a ±4' x±4'
outdoor shower; remove ±80 cubic yards of soil for pool
excavation; install a pervious semi-circle driveway landward of
dwelling; existing septic system to be abandoned (system to be
pumped clean and filled with clean sand from upland source); and
the installation of a new I/A OWTS system landward of dwelling;
there is no proposed grade change.
Located: 1050 Lupton Point Road, Mattituck. SCTM# 1000-115-11-14
The Trustees most recently visited the site on 8/9/22.
Notes from that site inspection read as follows: Pool, too close
to bank. Question location of top of bank. Should be more
landward. Whole house landward. Need non-turf vegetated buffer
from top of bank. And a tree removal, question mark.
The LWRP found this application to be consistent with its
policies, and makes three recommendations. One, regarding the
IA/OWTS system. Second, consider requiring vegetated non-turf
buffer to mitigate the shift of the structure seaward. Retain
trees and existing vegetation within the buffer. And a question,
where will the outside shower drain be.
The Conservation Advisory Council resolved not to support
the application. And the reason it does not support is due to
the inadequate setbacks of the proposed swimming pool and
dwelling.
The proposed structures are too close to the wetland boundary
and not in compliance with the LWRP.
We are in receipt of surveys stamped June 15th, 2022, and
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plans for the proposed project stamped August 1 st, 2022.
Is there anyone here who wishes to speak regarding the
application?
MR. COLE: Good evening. Chris Cole, Cole Environmental Services
for Jerry Diffley, homeowner and applicant.
In terms of setbacks to the top of the bluff, or top of the
bank, we are 55 feet from the proposed pool, so meeting the
setback requirements. The only setback requirement that we don't
meet is for the house to the top of the bank. And we are well
behind the house pier line of the adjacent corners of every other
house on the street. And in terms of non-turf buffer, we would
be open to putting one in.
If there are any other questions, I'm here to answer them,
and the homeowner is here as well.
TRUSTEE GILLOOLY: Just one question was, it does appear that the
highest point of the property actually extends through the pool.
So that would be the top of the bank.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Mr. Cole, can you comment on something? We
have plans stamped received August 1st, 2022, and on this set
it's showing 32 feet from the pool to what you are considering
the top of the slope.
MR. COLE: That's 32 feet to the top of the slope, but it's well
over 55 feet to the wetland line. So we are considering the
wetland line to be totally separate from the top of the slope.
Even though I know the Board's jurisdiction goes from the top of
slope. But the setbacks go through the wetlands as far as we
are understanding.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: The bank. That's correct.
MR. COLE: This is a bank.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I think the Board's point with that is that
even though this is legally a bank, we are getting very close to
a bluff, by legal definition. And while the code speaks to
banks, I think it mainly is trying to talk about smaller banks,
and if this can be maybe tucked in or downsized a little bit, I
think it would be, I mean, this is just one Trustee's opinion,
it would be a better fit for that area. Because it is pretty
steep there, as you know.
MR. COLE: Yes.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: And can you speak to, on this plan, it looks
like we have a,14-foot contour elevation at the top of the slope
but it also goes up to 16 and.18. So how did we come up with a
14 being the top of the slope?
MR. COLE: That is something the surveyor put on. I would need
call him.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Okay. Because obviously where the proposed
pool is at 18 foot elevation, it's sloping down:
MR. COLE: It does continue to slope off, but that is basically
where the steepness kind of levels off and slowly goes up to the
18-foot contour.
TRUSTEE PEEPLES: And then speaking of that. I think the 14-foot
contour line we have just been speaking.about, I believe that's
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where you have the pool fence, the compliant pool fence.
MR. COLE: Yes.
TRUSTEE PEEPLES: And it seems that if that in fact is what you
are defining as the top of the bank, that maybe that should be pushed
back landward a little bit as well so that it's not quite so
precipitous there. So I think if you can address that.
And then the other comment I have, I started counting the
number of trees that were being removed on the property, and
every time I counted, I then saw one more, and then one more,
and then one more, and then one more. They kept appearing
because they are layered with the rest of the plans. So, you
know, as was mentioned by Trustee Krupski in a previous
application, we do look favorably upon trying to replace the
trees that are removed. And, I mean, this site is beautiful,
obviously we visited last week in terms of the number of mature
trees that are there. And thank you for noting the caliper of
them, but they go up to, I think one goes up to 30 or 36 inches.
So just addressing that would be helpful as well.
MR. COLE: Yes, I think we would be open to replacing on a
one-to-one ratio with native trees. And if you do look at the
plans, my client is intending.to keep as many as possible. My
client does like the wooded aspect of it. He's taking down the
ones that are directly in conflict with the construction.
TRUSTEE PEEPLES: And I,think if, you know, some of the comments
in terms of moving back the`house, moving back some of this
structure that is so close to wherever we are defining the slope
of this bank, that would save some of those trees.
MR. COLE: If it's all right, the homeowner is here.
MR. DIFFLEY: Thank you, for your consideration.
Gerard Diffley. We currently live on Lupton Point, We lived on
Lupton Point for over 30 years, so we know the beauty of it.
It's an unusual piece of land, as I think you saw on your site
Visit, so I know that the contour is a little unique. We are
happy to preserve as many trees as we can and replace the ones
that are one-to-one. Because of that slope, however, there is
not a lot of land to build, and as Mr. Cole said, you know, we
are well behind the lines of our neighbors. So we just ask for
consideration there. Thank you.
TRUSTEE PEEPLES: Thank you.
TRUSTEE SEPENOSKI: So hearing our concerns, the trees, and our
concerns with the pool and proximity to the wetlands, would you
be willing to work with the plans to shift the pool landward? `
MR. DIFFLEY: To the extent that we can; absolutely. We don't
need a huge pool.
TRUSTEE SEPENOSKI: Okay, I see you have some space for the patio
and the size of the pool, and, as you said, the structure is behind the pier line.
So is there anyone else here wishing to speak to this application?
(Negative response).
Anyone on the Board wishing to comment?
TRUSTEE GILLOOLY: Just to reiterate Trustee Peeples' point that
also the fence should be moved from there.
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TRUSTEE SEPENOSKI: Hearing no further comments, I make motion to
table this application.
MR. COLE: Thank you.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Second.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE GILLOOLY: Number 7, North Fork Woodworks on behalf of
DKJK FAMILY TRUST requests a Wetland Permit to construct an
852sq.ft. attached garage with a second floor recreational/media
room onto the landward side of existing permitted dwelling.
Located: 880 Deep Hole Drive, Mattituck. SCTM# 1000-115-12-13
The LWRP reviewed this application and found it to be consistent.
And the CAC reviewed and resolved to support this
application, with one note: If a bathroom is being installed as
part of the project, the Conservation Advisory Council
recommends an IA septic system.
The Trustees most recently visited the site on August 9th,
noting that the project seemed straightforward.
Is there anyone here wishing to speak regarding this
application?
(No response).
Any questions or comments from the Board?
(Negative response).
Hearing none, I'll make a motion to close this hearing.
TRUSTEE PEEPLES: Second.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE GILLOOLY: I make a motion to approve this application
with the plans stamped received in our office July 1st, 2022.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Second.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE PEEPLES: Number 8, Suffolk Environmental Consulting on
behalf of CHARLES SNYDER requests a Wetland Permit to remove and
replace in place approximately 114 linear feet of existing
bulkheading and ±11'4" long return using vinyl sheathing; and to
reconstruct the existing 441.9sq.ft. deck in-kind and in-place
located along the seaward side of existing dwelling.
Located: 704 Wiggins Lane, Greenport. SCTM# 1000-35-4-28.24
The Trustees most recently visited the site on August 9th
and noted that the application is straightforward.
The LWRP found that this is exempt from their review.
And the Conservation Advisory Council resolved to support
the application of Charles Snyder.
Is there anyone here who wishes to speak regarding this
application?
MR. ANDERSON: Rob Anderson, Suffolk Environmental Consulting on
behalf of the applicant to answer any questions the Board may have.
TRUSTEE PEEPLES: Thank you.-I'll just note here as well that we have
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a survey that was stamped dated August 10th on the record as
well --
MR. ANDERSON: Yes, that is correct.
TRUSTEE PEEPLES: (Continuing) that includes a non-turf buffer.
MR. ANDERSON: Yes, ma'am.
TRUSTEE PEEPLES: Does anyone else wish to speak?
(No response).
Any other questions or comments from the Board?
(Negative response).
Hearing none, I make a motion to close the hearing.
TRUSTEE SEPENOSKI: Second.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE PEEPLES: I make a motion to approve this application
with the most recent plans stamped dated August 10th, 2022.
TRUSTEE SEPENOSKI: Second.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Number 9, Michael Kimack on behalf of GEROSA
FAMILY TRUST requests a Wetland Permit to remove existing set of
bluff stairs, benches and shed (shed not to be replaced), and
construct a new set of bluff stairs with railings consisting of
a 4'x6' (24sq.ft.) top landing to 4'x10' (40sq.ft.) stairs to a
4'x6' (24sq.ft.) middle landing to 4'x13.1' (52.4sq.ft.) stairs
to a 4'x6' (24sq.ft.) lower landing with an 8'x 30" x 30"
storage bin cantilevered off side of landing to 4x9.25'
(37sq.ft.) stairs to ground; total'of landings, staircases and
storage bin to be 221.4sq.ft.; maximum disturbance to be 2' on
either side of bluff stairs; replant disturbed areas and area of
removed staircase with American Beach Grass at 12" on center
and/or indigenous vegetation with two (2) layers of burlap (o/e)
fastened.
Located: 315 Aquaview Avenue, East Marion. SCTM# 1000-21-2-3
The LWRP found this to be inconsistent. The inconsistency
is the Aquaview Property Association's common beach access is
located just to the east of the parcel. These areas were
designed to create common beach access to minimize beach stairs
from each parcel.
The Conservation Advisory Council resolved to support the
application with retractable steps to the base of the staircase.
Trustees conducted a field inspection August 9th, 2022,
noting that staircase project seemed straightforward, discussed
a buffer at the top of bluff and the review of the lower
platform dimensions. We did receive stamped survey, stamped
received in the Trustees office August 16th, 2022, that do show
a ten-foot, non-turf buffer at top of the bluff.
Is there anyone here wishing to speak regarding this
application?
MR. KIMACK: Mike Kimack, on behalf of the applicant.
The existing staircase from the original plan, or from the
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original survey, shows that it's been in its place since at
least 1969. It has varied, basically, on that particular one.
In the design layout that I did, I wanted to show, we are
putting it in the same location it is, because that's the only
location it can go in. Simply because of all those heavy stones
and rocks, it has to start at the_same location, and pretty much
end at the same location.
You can see, I dotted in the existing staircase that is
being removed around the one that is being put in its place, and
we are, I think perhaps maybe three feet, a little bit more seaward with
the new one only because I had to raise it in order to get the
four-foot clearance for the DEC's requirements.
If you remember, the original staircase is pretty much on
grade. So I moved the landing out about three or four--four or
five feet over the top of the bluff in order to begin the
staircase going down in order to obtain that four foot under the
runners. And that's why it ended up to'be the extra three feet,
a little more seaward than the original one is right now.
The platforms are all 4x6. We are taking the shed out,
essentially, like that. But I am requesting, my client asked if
we could leave that 30"x30"x8' storage area there, which is
presently where the shed is on the way down.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Mr. Kimack, I have one question. It doesn't
state in the project description anything about extending the
concrete walkway at the top of the landing, but it showed that
in the plans.
MR. KIMACK: I think it's on the plans, yes. I apologize, it was
not in the description.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: We, or I, would not look favorably on wanting to
extend that any closer, or any seaward.of its existing location
because anything adds some extra runoff underneath the stairs.
So perhaps you can do gravel or something that is more pervious
as opposed to the concrete.
MR. KIMACK: We can do bluestone on crushed -we can do base stone on
top of crushed bluestone that is pervious.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Is there anyone else here wishing to speak
regarding this application?
(Negative response).
Any questions or comments from the-Board?
(Negative response).
Hearing none, I make motion to close this hearing.
TRUSTEE SEPENOSKI: Second.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: I make a motion to approve this application
with the condition that the concrete walkway is not extended and
it is used as bluestone instead of the proposed concrete. And also
noting that this is a replacement of existing stairs that have
been there and is not new stairs, which will therefore bring it
into consistency with the LWRP. That is my motion.
TRUSTEE PEEPLES: Second.
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TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
MR. KIMACK: Last, but not least.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Number 10, Michael Kimack on behalf of
MICHAEL &ARGY MANTIKAS requests a Wetland Permit
to remove existing vegetation on the bank face and to revegetate
an approximately 880sq.ft. area of bank face with nine (9)
different native plants (284) in 33 interrelated beds.
Located: 80 South Lane, East Marion. SCTM# 1000-37-6-3.5
The LWRP coordinator found this to be consistent.
The Conservation Advisory Council resolved to support the
application.
The Trustees most recently visited the site on the 9th of
August and noted that there were boulders along the bottom,
almost functioning as a revetment. As far as the beach grass,
which was not indicated on the plans, should remain further out.
Will review further at work session.
Is there anyone here that wishes to speak regarding the
application?
MR. KIMACK: Michael Kimack, on behalf of the applicant.
The boulders actually, basically they are more for I think
breaking up the lines themselves, because there are so many
different types of plantings this particular landscape architect put
in there in order to do that more from an esthetic point of view. It's
not a retaining wall because it's not a complete wall. It's simply a
cluster of stones.
But I will say that I think the stones basically, probably
should be at least 50 to 100 pounds. We are not looking to put a
pile of rubble there, for the most part.
To give you an example, a 12"x12" is 150 pounds. So it's
somewhere within that range. So it would be pretty much placed
in order to break up the different plantings, basically, along
the way. They are not meant or intended at all-to be a retaining
wall.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: So they are not meant to protect property at
all?
MR. KIMACK: No, not at all. It's simply to break up the
plantings there to, because in essence, as you look at from the
description that I gave you, I think it was, they had eight
different types of beds with 233 different types of plants in
there. It was really intended to try and get some kind of
breaking up to not have all of them look together. So the stone
basically would break up the plants so they would have their own
continuity.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: So I would like to hear maybe further Board
discussion on the stones, but I do want to speak to one other
point that I was making. I would say from about the bottom of
the stairs seaward is largely American beach grass right now,
and should probably remain that way.
I'm not necessarily as one Trustee opposed to a
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re-vegetation of the bank. We've done it before. If you use some
nice, native species and low-lying things and ground coverage,
it does hold up nicely. But I would say seaward of the bottom of
the stairs roughly based on these plans, I don't know if anyone
wants to see them, is really kind of a dune that is protecting
this bank, and it should remain. And to be honest with you, it
probably just should be refortified with additional beach grass.
MR. KIMACK: Well, if you look at what it is now, if you take the
bottom and you look at the plant list on the description over
there, you've got the C's which are the bayberries which are in
there, as opposed to, which is a 1-A plant. So it has the same
rooting system, as strong a system as your American beach grass
would have. The G is basically the golden rods. All those in
there, even the E's which are the pink clover grass, basically
for beds, all these pretty much -- and then they have sumac,
essentially like that -- have the same kind of durability as
American beach grass has.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I really feel that, and this is just my
opinion, I'd definitely take some other Board's comments, but I
really feel from the bottom of those step seaward we are trying
to revegetate a beach, a natural beach and dune, and it feels a
little unnatural to me, and, like I said, I appreciate what you
are trying to do.
MR. KIMACK: I'll have to question you, is the American beach grass
consistent all the way through to that property or--
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Mostly. There is a good picture. It starts to
fade out a little bit there. It's been taken over by some
invasives, but it could easily be revegetated back to that bank
line. I think it would do pretty well there.
MR. KIMACK: You are recommending then, there are two ways to
look at that. I may be able to have them in-filled where the
American beach grass is not, with some of these plantings. That
would be perhaps --
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Supplement what is already existing.
MR. KIMACK: Supplement what is already there. And leave the
American beach grass in its place. There is a lot of it. And I
quite frankly have not been at the site for some time. Once I
set the stakes it's been some time ago. But I do remember now
looking at the picture, that it was fine.
So if we can leave the American beach grass where there are
clusters and then put in, take some of these and put those in
there, and have the landscaper identify where those are, put
them on the plans where the American beach grass is indigenous
and then do the other plantings around it as a fill-in.
TRUSTEE SEPENOSKI: One of the things to consider is afternoon
shading of these trees on this bank.
MR. KIMACK: You have a lot of open spots.
TRUSTEE SEPENOSKI: That might account for some of the open
spots. Maybe the species that you in-fill, could be a little
more shade tolerant.
MR. KIMACK: I think so. Right. Look, I'm not an expert on the type of
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plants that they picked but I'm assuming that these are probably
more shade tolerant and would do better in that area than the
American beach grass is doing, because it looks a little scant at
best. And I can have the landscaper identify where that is, take
the clusters of American beach grass and then pull out those
sections which he has proposed plantings, and put the beach glass
in its place and then plant around the beach grass clusters with
whatever needs to be filled in, where it's open ground.
TRUSTEE SEPENOSKI: Yes, there's milkweed, there's some wild
peas. We did see seaside golden rod. So there are some pretty
happy plants in there already.
MR. KIMACK: Yes. And she's planting the golden rods back in,
essentially like that, so everything that, you know, fit within that bank.
But I can understand your concern that we don't want to disturb
what is already there in terms of the rooting system. So if I
can have her identify them and then plant around it to basically
re-enforce it with what she's got here. All she has to basically
do is pretty much take it from the seaward of the bottom of the
stairs, identify those areas which contain the American beach
grass, remove the proposed plantings for those areas, and then
just bring the other ones against it, basically, so that you have
the American beach grass as part of your planting plan.
TRUSTEE PEEPLES: As one Trustee, and agreeing with what
previously has been discussed from the other members of the
Board, I think that all sounds reasonable. The one thing I would
want to ensure is that this doesn't turn into a boulder garden.
You know, I understand esthetically why the boulders, what you
are calling boulders --
MR. KIMACK: I can ask her to cut it back a little bit.
TRUSTEE PEEPLES: So the rest of what I was going to say is that
I think, you know, to Trustee Krupski's point, that using the
bottom of the stairs as the demarcation point would be helpful,
and I think we were talking about re-vegetating some of these
patchy areas of the American beach grass, whether it's with the
beach,grass or something else, that the boulders don't appear in
those areas.
MR. KIMACK: Well, I think in looking at it right now, I think
perhaps one of the recommendations that I would take back to my
client is those boulders that are on the most seaward side.right
now, we could removal, primarily, so that basically the
plantings kind of in-fall back into the dunes without the
boulders there.
TRUSTEE PEEPLES: Fantastic.
MR. KIMACK: I don't have a problem, I hope you don't, with the
interspersing stone within the plantings area, but where it
creates the perimeter on the seaward side, we can take those
out.
TRUSTEE PEEPLES: I think when we did review the plan the
perimeter was, and the fact it did kind of encroach in what is a
very kind of naturalized beach area. If you look to the
neighbors on both sides, and if you look even further I think to
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the east there, there have been some hardened shorelines, and
just do not have as much of a beach as these properties do. So I
think that's something we are taking into consideration.
MR. KIMACK: Okay. And I'll get back to the landscaper and have
her basically identify the American beach grass that's there, and
I'll recommend to them to pull the stones that are on the
perimeter of the seaward side off so those particular, either
the American beach grass or the plantings that would be
surrounding the American beach grass at that particular point
just flow right into the beach area without any stone
intrusions.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: All right. So I have an additional thought
about the application. I think if you were to submit new plans
showing Rosa Rugosa, bayberry and American beach only, seaward
of the bottom of that bank, which is in-line with the steps, and
then remove any stones that are also seaward of that line, at
the bottom of the steps, so that there are two kind of lines
there that I would like to see removed. I would be willing to
vote on that. Because I think it's simple enough. I would be
willing to vote on that tonight.
MR. KIMACK: So in that area seaward of that, we are looking,
wherever the American beach areas are right now, and then the
others would be the bayberry and what did you say?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Rosa Rugosa and beach grass. I would do those
three. I mean there is some like Endless Summer hydrangea down
there that is just not right for that area.
MR. KIMACK: It's interesting, it's kind of like an anecdote,
Rosa Rugosa I know was an invasive species at one time., but it
has such a strong rooting system. But I'm glad you are beginning
to consider it again as putting in --
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Somehow it's become an acceptable species.
MR. KIMACK: So do phragmites.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: That's true. So if that's what you would be
willing to consider, it would be pulling those two kind of lines
of stones seaward of the steps and eliminating some of those
species.
MR. KIMACK: So take that stone out seaward, identify the
American beach grass area and then limit the other areas to the Rosa
Rugosa and the bayberry along with the American beach grass. And
everything above that would stay as it is on the design.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Okay. Any other additional thoughts from the
Board members?
(Negative response).
Is there anyone else here that wishes to speak regarding
this application?
(Negative response).
Hearing no further comments, I make a motion to close the
hearing in this application.
TRUSTEE SEPENOSKI: Second.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
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TRUSTEE KRUPSKi: And I make a motion to approve this application
subject to submission of new plans depicting the removal of the
seaward two lines of boulders, which are found seaward of the
steps, the bottom of the steps, and only including seaward of
the bottom of the steps Rosa Rugosa, bayberry and American beach
grass. That is my motion.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Second. All in favor?
(ALL AYES).
MR. KIMACK: Thank you, very much.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: Motion to adjourn.
TRUSTEE SEPENOSKI: Second.
TRUSTEE GOLDSMITH: All in favor?
(ALL YES).
Respectfully submitted by,
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Glenn Goldsmith, President
Board of Trustees