HomeMy WebLinkAboutAppendix COFFICE LOCATION:
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54375 State Route 25
(cor. Main Rd. & Youngs Ave.)
Southold, NY
January 29, 2021
Mr. Steven A. Martocello
24 Miller Woods Drive
Miller Place, NY 11764
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PLANNING BOARD OFFICE
TOWN OF SOUTHOLD
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Southold, NY 11971
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Re: DEIS Comments and FEIS Preparation for the Proposed Standard Subdivision The
Orchards
SCTM #1000- 27 -1 -3 Zoning District: R -80
Dear Mr. Martocello:
The Planning Board has confirmed at the January 25, 2021 work session that the Final
Environmental Impact Statement (FEIS) will be drafted by you, as agreed, and reviewed by the
Planning Board.
Enclosed is a summary of the comments received on the Draft Environmental Impact Statement.
Please refer to the following Laserfiche link for the complete set of comments.
1. Go to the Town of Southold website wNV���.southoldtotivnu %.,oi;
2. Click on Town Records /Weblink/Laserfiche Icon;
3. Click on the Planning Department folder;
4. Click on Applications;
5. Click on Standard Subdivisions;
6. Click on Pending;
7. Click on SCTM #1000- 27 -1 -3.
If you have any questions regarding the above, please do not hesitate to contact this office.
Izespectfull
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Donald Wilcenski
Chairman
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Southold Town Clerk for Southold Town Board
Scott Russell, Southold Town Supervisor
Southold Town Engineer
Orient Fire District
Southold Police Department
NYSDEC - Stony Brook
Suffolk County Department of Health Services
Suffolk County Planning Department
Southold Highway Department
Southold Architectural Review Committee
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Compilation of Public and Planning Board Comments on the DEIS
The Orchards
SCTM# 1000- 21 -7 -3
Note: The comments are not arranged in a particular order.
January 29, 2021
C -3 1. Two aspects of this project appear to not be code compliant:
Based on Town Code - Article X1 Cluster Development 2401- 42- H.(4):
Roads, streets and rights -of -way n7ay not be included in the calculation of the minimum
required open space. (Friedman)
C- 3;C -17 2. The area of the conservation easement is based on 16' right of way for Lot# 1 driveway.
The State requires a 25 -foot clearing and in a letter dated March 6, 2015 the Town
Highway Engineer said the Right of Way should be 25 feet. The additional 9 feet of right
of way increases the size of Lot 41 to 1.4744 acres and reduces the conserved area
by. 1218 acres. This would bring the Conservation Area below the 60% required
threshold.
C -4 ;. Based on Town Code Article X1I Design Standards 240 -45 for flag lots:
D. Flag lots: The Planning Board may per7nit a lin7iled 7711777ber offlag lots in o
residential subdivision plat provided they5•e well shaped, then are generally larger than
usual lots...
(1) to assure that the flag lot is of adequate size and shape, a, flag lot located
within the residential zones shall contain at least the 777ininn1n7 lot area.. of the
applicable zoning district an which it is bulk of the lot, exclusive (?f the area
contained in the flagpole access strip.
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Both Lots 2 and 3 are flag lots and they are NOT larger than usual lots, I am not sure what
"usual lots" means, but the average size of 17 abutting lots is 2.5 acres, based on current
tax maps. I would suggest that Lots 2 and 3 should therefore be at least the minimum
required in R -80 zoning which is 80,000 square feet.
C -4 4. Lot #2 is inadequately sized for R -40 zoning, which requires a minimum lot size of 40,000
sq. ft. When the 3,169 sq. ft. access strip is deducted from the area of Lot 42, the result is
below the 40,000 sq. ft. threshold.
C -5;C -6 5. The Positive Declaration states "The impacts of the new sanitary systems proposed on
down gradient surface water must be assessed ". The DEIS suggests that Suffolk County
Sanitary Code would yield 13 homes, and therefore 5 is a mitigation of impact. Town
Bulk Regulations would only allow 5 homes so the proposal should not be held up against
the County standards. The DEIS proposes standard sanitary systems and merely states that
since the SCDHS gave them approval, it must be okay.
C -5 6. To my knowledge, the DEIS does not assess the impacts of sanitary systems on down
gradient surface water at all. Provide a hydrological assessment of groundwater properties
on site including depth of the freshwater lens, directional flow, and the
saltwater /freshwater interface, as well as the amount of nitrogen and other potential
pollutants projected to reach the estuary via groundwater flow over time, and the impact
on nutrient loading to the estuary as well as proposed mitigation.
C -6 7. Impacts on Groundwater
The DEIS does NOT adequately address the site - specific availability of groundwater for
the proposed use and there seems to be no consideration for water conservation.
C -9 The DEIS does not address the effects on the quality of the water for the area population.
The proposed subdivision has the potential to impact the fi-esh water supply for the whole
village.
Positive Declaration 2a "Potential adverse impacts to groundwater quality and quantity
could be severe and boundless and must be assessed. The probability of the impact
occurring is moderate and could affect the area population"
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According to the Southold Town Comprehensive Plan... Southold will need additional
water sources by 2030" I believe this assumes that the infrastructure is in place to provide
Orient with water from the aquifer areas included in the Special Groundwater Protection
Areas. Since that infrastructure is not in place, the sole source aquifer in Orient needs to be
protected too!
According to the Comprehensive Plan, the pace of "build -out" has already picked up, and
the predictions of a few years ago should be adjusted... to COVID -19 water demand from
houses being used frill time.
In addition to the five new homes proposed, the DEIS states that the NYSDEC permit
allows maximum of 4 million gallons a year to be used for crop irrigation, This is a
staggering number, equivalent to 62 -120 homes. The DEC approval requires testing the
C -8 irrigation well for salt -water intrusion twice a year, acknowledging the threat of salt water
intrusion. If salt water intrusion occurs in the irrigation well it likely means that there will
be salt water intrusion in neighboring residential wells too.
C-8 8. Identify the salt water interface and evaluate the impacts of pumping. Provide a
hydrological assessment of groundwater properties on site including, depth of the
freshwater lens, directional flow, and the saltwater /freshwater interface. Positive
Declaration 2d: "Assessment of potential impacts to groundwater front new sanitary
systems (pharmaceuticals and personal care products) pesticides, herbicides and
fertilizers must be included. Impacts to adjacent properties must also be discussed ".
C -11 9. The DEIS does NOT address the concerns for potential impacts to groundwater and
adjacent properties of discharge of pharmaceuticals, personal care products, VOCs,
pesticides or herbicides and fertilizers from the residential properties. The DEIS does not
C -12 address the use of fertilizers and pesticides except to say that "Best Management
Practices" will be implemented. There is no mention of Integrated Pest Management. I am
not a farmer, but I am told that sweet corn is especially susceptible to pests and can require
frequent pesticide applications (more than once a week). Is this really appropriate in a
residential area, and in particular within 100' of two private wells? The wells for 2650
Orchard and Lot #2, along with the irrigation well for the proposed farmland are within
100' of the proposed farmed acreage (these areas should be mapped, cannot be used as
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farmland and should be deducted in all area calculations). Even with Integrated Pest
Management, most of the pesticides used to control corn pests are toxic sprays.
C -13 10. The DEIS does not (propose the use of I/A sanitary systems, proposes a crop that requires
C -14 an abundance of fertilizer and pesticides and offers "turf grass" in the unfarmed open
C -11 space. There is no mention of how the new sanitary systems might mitigate the impact of
the pharmaceutical, personal care products etc.
C -7 11. The DEIS does not address the quantity of water available based on projected water use
for this project and the homes that share this resource.
12. Positive Declaration 2f.A discussion of the current groundwater quality, contamination
and impacts on the proposed action and adjacent properties must be included:
The water on the site was in fact found to contain excessive nitrates and Aldicarbs.
The DEIS states that the homes will require filters for excessive Aldicarbs.
According to SCDHS private Water Systems Standards 406.4 -15 if water exceeds
MCL and treatment is required a "covenant regarding water treatment must appear
on all realty subdivision and development maps" I don't see this covenant on any
C -13 site maps. The test well for Lot 2 also exceeded the allowable for Nitrates, and yet
an I/A Sanitary system was not proposed.
C -6 13. What will the effects be on neighboring properties quality and quantity of drinking water?
C -6;C -7 14. The overall impact of the additional demand for water has not been assessed and the
overall impact of wastewater has not been assessed.
C -7 15. Why is there no consideration given for conservation or alternative sources of irrigation
water, such as using drip irrigation, gray water recycling and rain water collection?
C -14 16. Why isn't there any mention of drought - resistant plantings or limitations on irrigation and
fertilization for the areas anticipated to be "turf grass ?"
C- 7;C -12 17 Why was a potentially water and pesticide intensive crop selected for farming?
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C -13 18. Why weren't I/A sanitary systems proposed at the outset, and if the SCDHS has approved
the site plan, will I/A sanitary systems be required (after July 2021)?
C- 3;C -17 19. Positive Declaration 3a "The conversion of farmland to residential use is
INCONSISTENT with the Town of Southold Local Waterfront revitalization Program
Policies" As mentioned above, the conserved area will not meet the 60% criteria for open
space when the Lot #1 and Lot #2 are corrected for code compliance unless some building
lots are eliminated. The configuration of the conserved area is not conducive to
agricultural use with several notches that will be difficult to plant and maintain.
C -45 20. Why is Lot 1 separate from the other lots?
C -45 21. Why is the designated area for the barn separate from the Lot 1 house? This does not seem
to conform to the intent of the code. The DEIS argues that the sale of four homes / home
lots is necessary to support the agricultural uses. When this proposal was first submitted,
the owner said that this was going to be a family compound, which presumably would not
generate incorne to support the agricultural uses. Lot #1, which has been presented as the
owner's personal residence is not clustered with the other lots, instead it is in the northwest
corner of the site to take advantage of conservation easements of neighboring properties
rather than be clustered with the other homes. The split cluster layout of the site does not
suggest a family compound, it looks more like a plantation except that the low lying land
to the southeast will not be populated by farm workers, but by wealthy second home
owners who can afford 1 -2 million dollar homes. At the planning board meeting on April
6, 2015 the owner stated that "we are not going to do spec houses" and yet the DEIS
suggests that is the intent. The owner should clarify how many houses he intends to build
himself, and will they be built on spec or for his family? The proposed layout appears to
maximize the profit from new homes, not maximize the continuity of the open space or its
viability as farmland.
C -24 22. Impact on Archeological Resources - Based on historical maps, this appears to be "virgin"
land, never having been built on. However, there are adjacent parcels which are included
in the Comprehensive Plan for the Town of Southold as having historic value.
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C -24 23. Impacts on Aesthetic Resources
Positive Declaration 5a. "The potential impact for the siting and scale of homes could be
moderate to large based on lot size."
While the DEIS indicates that the five homes will be "modest sized" with footprints of
approximately 1750 sq. ft. and overall square footage of 3,500 sq. ft.. Once the lots are
subdivided, it seems that the Town has almost no control over what will be built on the
individual hots. There is presently almost no limitation on the sizes of the homes, and
while there are very stringent oversight of what is built in the nearby Historic District,
there are no rules at all about the design quality of these homes. These "structural design
components ", potentially very LARGE homes, will have clear negative impact on the
"visual quality and scenic resources" at the very center of Orient.
Based on 20% lot coverage, the FOOTPRINTS of these houses can be up to:
Lot 1 approximately 11,783 sq. ft. (not including additional ROW acreage)
Lot 2 approximately 8,600 sq. ft. (based on current non - compliant plat)
Lot 3 approximately 9,960 sq. ft.
Lot 4 approximately 8'000 sq. ft.
Total Buildable (House)Area 46,343 sq. ft.
Barn footprint 4.000 sq. ft.
Total Area of Buildings 50,343 sq. ft. equals 1.16 acres
Table I of the DEIS has the Total Area of buildings at 0.2927 acres, which seems to be
based on 5 houses with footprints of 1,750sq. ft. +4,000 sq. ft. barn. Page 4 -10 of the
DEIS states "A primary purpose of the Bulk Schedule for Residential Districts is to
ensure properties are developed in manner that provides the appropriate amount of open
space between building lots with appropriately sized buildings. Thus the size and location
for each of the proposed homes are limited ". Unfortunately this is not the case, the houses
can be much larger based on the Bulk Schedule. Provide the maximum permitted house
size and lot coverage for each lot and discuss potential mitigation, including limiting
future house size or lot coverage by covenant, increasing the setbacks to reduce the size of
the building envelope or other mitigation that might be considered.
NON - COMMENT 24. Positive Declaration 5 continued: "Mi»imize introduction q design components (including
wility lines, lighling, signage and fencing) i•vhich Yvozuld be discordant with the existing
scenic components and characle/)"
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25. On page 4 -10 of the DEIS the project shall provide aesthetically pleasing views of the
open space and active farmland" Clearly, there will need to be an 8 foot fence surrounding
the agricultural land. The statement that this will be an "aesthetically pleasing view" of an
8 foot fence and the owner's home in the distance, is highly subjective. For the residential
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lots, landscaped buffers per 240 -43 are not indicated and potential hedges and fences are
C -23 not addressed. Additionally, the 4,000 sq. ft. barn is directly on axis with the view from
Old Farm Road.
C -20 26. Positive Declaration 5a continued: "Protect visual quality associated with agricultural
land, open space and natural resources. " Two of the properties associated with the
Hallock Farm are within 500 feet of the proposed subdivision. These properties, along
with several others just outside of the 500' buffer, are indicated on figure 5.1 of the
Southold Comprehensive Plan as listed by the Society for the Preservation of Long Island
Antiquities. The Hallock Farm was an innovative and prosperous farm that helped shape
the community of Orient. As I have mentioned in past correspondence, Halyoake Avenue
was formerly the driveway approach to Hallock Farm from Orchard Street.
The rural nature of the Orchard and Halyoake corner is still mostly intact, and will be
permanently spoiled by the addition of four potentially massive houses.
This proposal does not "enhance the visual quality and protect scenic resources" and there
are no safeguards in place to insure that the structures that will be built will not seriously
detract from the visual qualities of the area.
We would like to see a full visual impact study showing the impact of the maximum sized
homes and barn.
C -27 27. Considering the proximity to the Orient Historic District and to the Hallock Farm
Complex, the houses and the barn should all be contextual in design, restricted in height
above natural grade, and limited in footprint in order to maintain the aesthetics and
character of the area. Provide a visual impact analysis of the anticipated structures; include
views from all adjacent public roadways.
C -4 28. Based on design standards established by 240 -45 both of the non- compliant flag lots
Should be eliminated.
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29. Assessment of the No Action Alternative
These six points outlined in the DEIS are of questionable mitigation value:
C -35 (1) "Return the fallow agricultural land to open space to productive use"
Is there anything stopping this owner from farming this land as is?
(2) "Permanently protect 60% of the agricultural land comprising the subject
C -28 property from future development through environmental conservation
easement" Even more of the property could be open space or the land could
be sold to a trust or individual who would preserve all of the land as open
space.
(3) "Create new modest size residential homes to provide additional housing in
the community"
If these lots are sold at current prices for real estate in Orient, they will not be
C -29 modestly priced. The estimate of cost to build these homes in the DEIS is
very conservatively posited at$150 /sq. ft.. Homes recently built in Orient are
about twice that. So with the cost of land being around $600 per acre, and the
cost of a 3,500 sq. ft. home at $1,050,000 this is not the type of housing that
Orient "needs ".
(4) "Control of vegetation to enhance scenic vistas from the abutting roadways.
C -20 " This DEIS claims that the view sheds will be improved because the land
will be cleared of overgrowth and if no action is taken "existing vegetation
would go unchecked and eventually consume the property ". 1 don't believe
anyone would object to the owner maintaining his vacant property.
(5) "Increase the annual tax revenue"
This cannot be denied. However, the increase in density and use of limited
C -30 resources doesn't offset this gain. The conversion of farmland to residential
use in order to produce tax revenue on the one hand is contradictory to the
use of preservation funds to conserve farmland on the other.
C -31 (6) "Removal of contaminants from the aquifer via filtration of domestic water
for proposed homes" While Aldicarbs will be filtered out by a system that is
provided free to the homeowners -there could be negative impacts from other
contaminants. The following concerns mentioned in the Full Environmental
Assessment Form, were not mentioned in the Positive Declaration.
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C -32 30. Site was prone to ponding and flooding. While the site is not in a currently designated
FEMA flood zone, it is susceptible to storm surge. Part of lot 45 is located in an area
expected to be impacted by a storm surge of 6 -8 feet above normal, with the majority of
the lots 2, 3, and 4 in storm surge zone 3 (9 -12 feet above normal) Provide a discussion
on the potential threats from flooding on the parcel, include sea level rise projections.
C -33 31. While there may, or may not be any threatened or endangered species inhabiting this site,
there are certainly plenty of deer there. The DEIS suggests that the wildlife (squirrels,
rabbits and birds) will move to the adjacent conserved properties and then repopulate the
site, avoiding the subject of deer altogether. The 8' deer fence that will inevitably surround
the fanned area will not allow the deer to repopulate this site. As more and more fences
are erected the deer become more of a problem for homeowners who do not wish to, or
cannot fence in their properties, and to drivers as the deer dart across the roads instead of
open fields. Include an in -depth discussion on the impacts to wildlife, including protected
species. See comment below.
C -8 32. Concerned about impact on surface waters and oil ground water use of 4,000,000 gallons
per year for crops and the potential for this use to cause saltwater intrusion.
C -12 33. DEIS does not adequately address fertilizer and pesticide impacts to groundwater from the
proposed agricultural use.
C -7 34. Has there been an assessment on using drought tolerant plants, gray water recycling, drip
irrigation? Include an assessment of the use of these types of water conservation
measures.
C -6 35. Has there been analysis to assess the potential impact on neighboring properties drinking
water and overall demand requirement for water in the area? Include the potential impact
to groundwater and impacts on private wells in a detailed hydrological study as mentioned
above.
C- 20;C -26 36. Concern about aesthetic impacts and the building of "McMansions ". Size (square footage,
height) of homes along with landscape and fencing should be part of an overall visual
impact study.
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C -24 37. Concern that proposal is not aligned with Comp Plan, Orients history and character.
38. The Town's recently adopted Southold Town Comprehensive Plan could not be clearer in
its vision and goals to protect town character, its environment and aesthetic so that,
"Southold retains much of its small -town charm" (Goal Five: Protect the Town Character).
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In order to truly fulfill this vision and achieve these goals for Southold's future, every
development proposal should be met with the highest level of scrutiny and the willingness
to collaboratively arrive at appropriate mitigation measures to create the best possible
development outcome. Given this, we find the DEIS to be inadequate in a number of key
sections pertaining to character and water resources.
39. Impacts to Water Resources:
With regard to wastewater, the DEIS summarizes that the impacts to ground and surface
C -5;C -6 water quality are negligible based on the fact that the subdivision map could provide a
density of thirteen homes when only five are proposed. This reasoning completely
disregards the actual impact of wastewater on water quality by relying on a circumstance
that is impossible due to the zoning. This logic is detrimental and should be addressed
within the DEIS by requiring an analysis of the actual impacts the proposed five homes
will impart on water resources. It is notable that the Town of Southold, in its Positive
Declaration (July 2015), specifically called out impacts of proposed sanitary systems on
nearby surface waters of the greater Peconic Estuary systems, which continues to
experience the deleterious effects of excess nitrogen loading emanating from standard,
single - family sanitary systems. The DEIS is inadequate in addressing these impacts.
C -13 40. Incorporate a comparative analysis of the impacts of the use of the proposed standard
sanitary systems for the five homes versus the use of I/A OWTS. It's important to
note that on October 6, 2020, Suffolk County passed legislation modifying its Sanitary
Code to require the incorporation of the alternative systems for all new construction
throughout the County. The County's regulations take effect in July of 2021.
This recommendation is bolstered by the Town of Southold's recently adopted,
Southold Town Comprehensive Plan recommendations:
Bullet 5 - "Require the use of (1 /A OWTS or future technologies to achieve the highest
level of effluent treatment in new construction projects" (page 15).
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NON - SPECIFIC 41. It would be irresponsible to omit this consideration from the EIS given the above -
COMMENT mentioned circumstances.
42. House Size and Scale
C -20 The DEIS does not provide analysis of the size and scale of homes in the adjacent areas to
determine what "modest" might consist of and how the size of the proposed homes could
have a negative impact on community character, aesthetic and the preservation of
viewsheds.
Additionally, the DEIS makes zero mention of the Orient community's desire to maintain
such character. These desires are explicitly called out in adopted Town studies and
community - driven endeavors. Address how the proposed home size and scale conform to
the following statements.
The Southold Town Comprehensive Plan (one of the Orient community's main goals)
F. Ensure future residential development in the hamlet is in keeping with and at a
scale consistent with the hamlet's character. This goal can be nzet, in part,
through the implementation of this chapter's Goal 2, which contains a subsection
on updating regulations for Residential Uses including home sizes (Page 41).
It is important to note that the Orient community strongly favors the protection of
community character through the use of limitations on building sizes. The Orient Plan
Propositions (May 2020), noted,
"No construction shall be permitted that would result in overall housing size
(usable square footage) that is out of scale with the existing housing in the
immediate neighborhood; this provision shall be in addition to zoning
requirements, including lot coverage, setback, height and other limitations" .
(Note that the Orient Plan is a plan generated by the Orient Association, a local civic
C -62 association). Provide an analysis of area home sizes and scales. As a form of
mitigation, to ensure that the proposed homes do not create negative impact on
community character, the DEIS should discuss a required covenant that specifies
maximum allowable home sizes of a certain scale.
C -6; C -8 43. Concerned about potential adverse impacts to the Orient Historic District,
C -1 groundwater /aquifer (e.g. salt water intrusion), community character, and the lack of
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assessment of these in the EIS. These need to be assessed. The current plan shows five
residential lots, as well as an agricultural building and access road, utilizing R -40 zoning.
C -26 Using R -40 and the split cluster configuration does not achieve a rural, open space goal,
nor does it preserve the natural and scenic values of the Town and village. We would like
the DEIS include a full visual impact study showing maximum sized homes and barn.
C -9 44. The proposed subdivision has the potential to impact the fresh water supply for the
whole village. What will the effects be on neighboring properties quality and quantity of
drinking water? The overall impact of the additional demand for water has not been
assessed and the overall impact of wastewater has not been assessed. The applicant should
be required to identify the salt water interface and evaluate the impacts of pumping.
C-1 1;C-12 45. The DEIS does NOT address the concerns for potential impacts to groundwater and
adjacent properties of discharge of pharmaceuticals, personal care products, VOCs,
pesticides, fertilizers or herbicides from the residential properties.
C- 12;C- 13;C -14 46. The DEIS does not propose the use of I/A sanitary systems, proposes a crop that requires
an abundance of fertilizer and pesticides and offers "turf grass" in the unfarmed open
space. There is no mention of how the new sanitary systems might mitigate the impact of
any of the discharge.
C -6 47. Hydrological studies need to be done. Concerned about impacts to aquifer and impacts
from ferry operation.
C- 1;C- 2;C -3;C -6 48. Concern about impacts to character and increase in traffic, contiguous open space, water
supply and disruption to wildlife.
C -6;C -8 49. Concerned about impacts (strain) on aquifer (seasonal use, water levels, demand from
homes and irrigation, saltwater intrusion, costs and need for additional wells) Include a
discussion on the seasonal use (increase in GPM) of groundwater in the hydrological study
mentioned above.
C- 56;C -6 50. Subdivision is too dense for character and resources available, concerned about impact to
sole aquifer from sanitary systems, irrigation and property maintenance. The cumulative
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build out could lead to impacts to ground and surface and waters. Discuss the cumulative
impacts over a long duration on ground and surface water in greater detail. Include the
impacts from nutrients, pollutants, fertilizers. herbicides, pesticides, storm water runoff.
C -1 51. Two of the properties associated with the Hallock Farm are within 500 feet of the
proposed subdivision. These properties, along with several others just outside of the 500'
buffer, are indicated on figure 5.1 of the Southold Comprehensive Plan as listed by the
Society for the Preservation of Long Island Antiquities. The Hallock Farm was an
innovative and prosperous farm that helped shape the community of Orient. The rural
nature of the Orchard and Halyoake corner is still mostly intact, and will be permanently
spoiled by the addition of four potentially massive houses. The 13.0 acre site is currently
guided by the area's R -80 zoning district and is also informed by its historical context and
the goals represented by the Village of Orient Historic District, with its eastern boundary
at Tabor Road, just 880 feet from the site. Discuss the potential adverse impacts on the
parcel referred to as Hallock Farm and the Orient Historic District.
C -45 52. The current plan shows five residential lots, as well as an agricultural building and access
road, utilizing R -40 zoning. Using R -40 and the split cluster configuration does not
achieve a rural, open space goal, nor does it preserve the natural and scenic values of the
Town and village.
C -26 53. We would like to see a full visual impact study showing maximum sized homes and barns.
C -6 54. Another key issue is the lack of a thorough environmental impact study on groundwater.
The application requirement is for six new wells including an irrigation well with DEC
permit to pump 4 million gallons /year; anticipated irrigation for turf grass; and five new
standard residential sanitary systems. The most critical shortcoming in the DEIS is the
impact of the development (particularly its density) on both water supply and quality. A
potential impact and barn from the project would be depletion of the groundwater supply
lying beneath the property. There is no analysis regarding the severe limitations of
Orient's aquifer and groundwater supply. The proposed subdivision has the potential to
C -9 impact the fi•esh water supply for the whole village. What will the effects be on
neighboring properties quality and quantity of drinking water? The overall impact of the
additional demand for water has not been assessed nor has the overall impact of
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wastewater. The DEIS does NOT address the concerns for potential impacts to
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groundwater and adjacent properties of discharge of pharmaceuticals, personal care
products, VOCs, pesticides, fertilizers or herbicides from the residential properties. The
C -13 DEIS does not propose the use of I/A sanitary systems, proposes a crop that requires an
C- 12;C -14 abundance of fertilizer and pesticides and offers "turf grass" in the unfarmed open space.
C -8 55. The applicant should be required to identify the salt water interface and evaluate the
C -13 impacts of pumping; and there is no mention of how the new sanitary systems (I /A
OWTS) might mitigate the impact of any of the discharge.
C -1 56. Concerns about impacts to aesthetics, character (low density, rural ambiance, colonial
architecture). DEIS does not appear to address multiple aesthetic and practical
risks /impacts.
C -5;C -6 57. Very concerned about overdevelopment and impacts on groundwater, nitrogen input and
chemical runoff into surrounding bays.
C -40 58. Multiple Plans: Conditionally Approved, Proposed, and Preliminary Referenced in the
DEIS (pages 2 -3, 2 -4, 2 -12, 3 -5, 3 -6, 4 -2, Appendix) are different plans used as a basis
for different reports. The initial review reflected the "5 Lot" Yield Map (6 -5 -2005) based
on Existing R -80 Zoning, the Conditionally Approved Sketch Plan (6 -15 -2013)
(Appendix P) and the Existing Resource & Site Analysis Plan (10 -17 -2017) based on
Sketch Plan Lot Configuration. The Applicant's significant departure from the
Conditionally Approved Sketch Plan is represented by the Proposed Preliminary Plat for
Standard Clustered Subdivision (1 -21 -2015) (Appendix B). This Proposed Preliminary
Plat does little to address the many concerns expressed early on and are still relevant
C -39 today. In fact, this Proposed Preliminary Plat is a clear disregard for the Town Code, and
goals for future land use and zoning reflected in the Town's Vision Statement and
Comprehensive Plan as well as County and State Conservation planning. Regardless, the
DEIS seeks to defend the Proposed Preliminary Plat and fails to demonstrate its benefits.
More proposed and premature plans are put forth in an effort to provide mitigation and
support for the proposed development scheme.
■ Existing Resources & Site Analysis Plan (11-18-2017) based on Proposed
Preliminary Plat Lot Configuration (Appendix C)
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■ Proposed Subdivision Map with Corrected Building Envelopes (July 8, 2020)
(Appendix Y)
■ Proposed Subdivision Map with Sanitary Systems and Water Wells for
Suffolk County Department of Health Services June 18, 2019 (Appendix G).
C -40 59. Plan Inconsistencies Abound - -- basic code compliance goes uncorrected, lot sizes change,
setbacks are modified and incomplete, irrigation well appears in different locations or
missing altogether. Furthermore, seeking review and approval by the Suffolk County
C -41 Health Department, prior to Town's SEQRA Determination, and Preliminary Plat
Approval leads to more confusion.
We strongly suggest that the Planning Board use its authority to modify the Proposed
Preliminary Plat and provide a more equitable and fair balance between the Applicant's
interests and the Town s Vision. For example, fewer number of lots, more reflective of the
R -80 regulations and neighborhood character, achieved by removing the Lot I residential
building lot, reallocating excess lot area to remaining four lots or less. An alternative
design can then be assessed for its impact on critical water issues.
C -6 60. Perhaps the most critical shortcoming in the DEIS is the impact of the development
(particularly its density) on both water supply and quality, covered in Section 3.2 for a total
of 4 72 pages. On page 3 -4, there is recognition that "The subject site is not served by a
community water supply. A potential impact fi-om the project would be depletion of the
groundwater supply lying beneath the subject property." However, the DEIS avoids any
hydrogeologic analysis regarding the severe limitations of Orient's groundwater supply. In
fact, a document search for the word "aquifer" is virtually absent from the DEIS, except for
in the Town's Positive Declaration in Appendix A.
61. As the adjacent property to the southeast, we will be the first impacted by the quality of the
groundwater as it flows towards Long Beach Bay. Perhaps the most disturbing and
confusing series of events occurs between 2016 and 2019, where the Applicant's test well
results in 2016 not only show the contamination but also SCDHS remarks regarding the
depth to water of less than 40 feet (Appendix L) and the need to restrict lot size conforming
to the current R -80 zoning. Then by 2019, different well test results appear to allow for the
SCDHS Board Review & Variance (Appendix H) where lot size restrictions are removed.'
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C -52 Is cherry- picking results an acceptable approach to ignoring a well -known and documented
concern regarding the fragile Orient water supply?
62. The Applicant's DEIS continues to push the Suffolk County Health Department lot size
determination that 13 houses can be supported, but that the proposed plan only provides
for 5 houses and an irrigation well for farming. Further, the DEIS spins the facts of
contaminated water transformed by water filtration technology to conclude that the filtered
water discharged into the groundwater has no impact to water supply nor water quality, it
is a benefit created by the development!
C -12 The Applicant's DEIS addresses water related issues and the use of fertilizer associated
with the farming of the open space by simply assigning it to NYSDEC reporting (for
subject site only) and best farming management practices. The broad -brush statements
about this and other issues require more specification.
C -56 63. On prior occasions, the Planning Board and others have expressed concerns relating to
water issues and development densities. For example, as recent as June 27, 2017, the
Planning Board disapproved ZBA #7063, a proposed variance request to split a 4.2 acre
parcel in a R -80 zone at 2050 Platt Road (SCTM 1000- 27 -1 -9), recognizing the sensitive
area of Orient and its sole source aquifer and the impact on ground and surface waters as a
result of increased residential density. 'The "Settlers at Oysterponds" subdivision created
in 1984, located directly opposite the subject site at Halyoke Avenue and Orchard Street,
was also challenged by constraints and concerns surrounding water issues, influencing the
density and configuration of the lots. A proposed plan for 47 house lots on 67 +- acres was
reduced to 10 building lots (minimum 5 acres) due to water and other concerns.
C- 6;C -45 64. The Planning Board should require a more in -depth analysis regarding Orient water issues
and the impact of the Proposed Development as well as an Alternative Plan representing
lower density and better lot configuration that mitigates many of the non -water issues of
equal importance to the community.
C -55 65. The open space easement sample provided in Appendix D is not necessarily comparable to
what would be included in an easement on the subject property. There were only two
residential lots in the sample easement's subdivision. In addition, any future open space
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easement on the subject property would necessarily need to include any mitigation
measures identified in the future findings of this SEQRA process.
C -1;C -9 66. The Planning Board should evaluate the impacts of any Proposed Subdivision plan at
every stage of development, as the full implementation is the reality that the community
will experience for years to come.
C -4 67. The flag lots proposed are inadequately sized based on Town Code Article X11 Design
standards for such lots. Based on current tax maps and the size of the abutting lots, any
flag lots would need to be 2.5 acres to be larger than usual.
68. Further, it is clear from the DEIS that there must be assessed further the;
C -5 1. Impact on Surface'Water
C -6 2. Impact on Ground Water
C -6;C -8 69. Concern that the DEIS has NOT adequately addressed the specific availability of
groundwater use, and there seems to be no consideration for water conservation. We all
are keenly aware in Orient Village that salt water intrusion into our fresh water supply
potentially impacts the entire area. The proposal requiring 4 million gallons per year for
crop irrigation is an extraordinary number that represents the equivalent requirement for
sixty (60) to one hundred (120) homes. In addition, the DEIS does not fully address the
C -12 potential impact of fertilizer and pesticides to the ground water, especially since the corn
crop proposed requires a once a week pesticide application, which are potentially toxic to
ground water and thus nearby well systems. Has there been any consideration for drought
resistant plantings, gray water recycling, drip irrigation as options for water conservation?
Has there been analysis to assess the potential impact on neighboring properties drinking
water and the overall demand requirement for water- in the area? There are high levels of
nitrates in our soil and thus in our well water along with other contaminant materials. All
of this requires the need for substantive in home filtration systems.
C -20 70. We are further concerned as to the aesthetic impact of the proposed subdivision. Though
the owner states that "we are not going to do spec houses ", there seems to be no control in
place as to what gets built on the individual lots. Orient is a community that MUST
require very careful thought with respect to the how land is developed. Our concern, and
that of other owners we talk to, is that the threat of developers building "McMansions"
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will take away from the charm and aesthetic of Orient. Recently, there has been housing
development that if left unchecked will change forever that which we all appreciate so
much about our village.
C- 20;C -21 71. Thoughtful consideration as to the visual quality of the property is essential to protect
scenic resources. Size (square footage, height) of homes, along with landscape, fencing
C -26 should be part of an overall visual impact study.
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C -6 72. The main concern is the water table. We have well water along with our neighbors in the
area. How much water is available before it is completely exhausted? And, you KNOW
they will be putting in swimming pools as well. Every new house being built in the area
includes a swimming pool not to mention pools being the new addition to the homes
already here.
C -36 73. The analyses of the Horowitz property subdivision, done in the 1980's in Orient, should
offer a guideline for the development of "The Orchards" property, which is for all intents
and purposes identical. By this standard, the property should support no more than two
building sites, with carefully separated building envelopes to prevent intensive draw on
the aquifer in any one area.
C -6;C -7 74. The introduction of farming in addition to the five new homes is questionable due to its
intensive use of groundwater.
C -56 75. The limit of "'The Orchards" to two building lots would also better conform with the
present environment (community character) in this part of Orient
C- 1;C -56 76. The proposal to place a suburban development of this magnitude in this location will
fundamentally change the character of this part of Orient Village. Currently, there is a
feeling, for the many residents who walk or bike regularly on Orchard toward Narrow
River, of leaving the village proper for a more rural environment, with houses set back or
shielded by fences and trees, punctuated by brushland and woodland. The area in
question bordering Halyoke is an important part of this feel. To replace it with five
houses and a barn that is completely out of proportion with existing structures in the
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Village is to destroy a fundamental part of the Village's character. "View" is not a
function of how far one can see but of what one sees.
C -2 77. The contribution to traffic also seems fundamentally understated. Whatever the database
that was used for the calculation, if one makes the reasonable assumption that these
houses are likely to be sold to young families fleeing the City, the assumption of fewer
than two trips a day per household seems absurd Clarify the methodology used to
generate vehicle trams and provide a more in -depth discussion on the potential adverse
impacts from traffic on local roadwa s.
C -57 78. Barbara Friedman's letter presents a succinct view of the issues and concerns of the
community of neighbors near the proposed sub- division. Many of these concerns have
been the focus of the Orient Association for years, such as house size and water
conservation. My question to you is whether the review of the DEIS would incorporate
all of these concerns. This is a process question. What is within scope of the DEIS and
what is outside of the scope of the DEIS? Regardless, the issues concerning water use,
quality, and availability are all properly part of a DEIS. My question is then is what are
the water monitoring systems and tools in place that are used to assess the adequacy of
the proposed development in an area that is part of a larger fragile ecosystem, one that
will increasingly be prone to floods, saltwater intrusion, and higher groundwater
elevations that come with sea level rise?
C -64 79. Nancy and Mark Ferraris submission of Equity Environmental Engineering LLC report
(Attachment A) Address these comments in detail.
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December 7, 2020 Public Hearing Comments' (Note repeated comments were not included)
C- 6;C -56 1. DEIS does not address impacts. Concerns about water supply and quality overlooked.
Developer should introduce an alternative plan with less density that meets Town goals. The
word aquifer does not occur in the DEIS and that is a concern.
C -2 2. Concerns about traffic and tranquility adding more driveways also presents a safety risk
(safety of pedestrian and bicyclists not addressed). Multi directions traffic flow will increase
in front of property and threat of accidents will increase. The roads are narrow and are meant
for fewer cars. Concerns about increase in construction and farm vehicles. Questions 6
vehicle trips per day in DEIS. The houses are not moderate in size they will disrupt our
C -1 character. Issues of aquifer and noise pollution from farm equipment. Does not agree with
minimal need for community service claim.
C- 6;C -32 3. Concern about impact to water quality and permanent harm from five houses and low
elevations where lots are located. Change in character of neighborhood.
C -6 4. Concerned about water issues related to project— site between Platt and Narrow river road
C -13 failed because of DEIS impacts on water and water flow. Concerns about conventional septic
systems and how that will impact area. Water problems exist now.
5. Does not mitigate the action — DEIS just stated and restated sq ft. and site considerations.
C -24 Did not address adverse impacts from houses and on scenic area — corner. DEIS states that
C -4 the SCDH approved and does not think that is the case. Concern about flag lot size. Platt
C-7 road on plan is actually Holyoke. Concern about water availability.
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Town of Southold Planning Department Staff Comments
The Planning Board staff has reviewed the resubmitted Draft Environmental Impact Statement For
Subdivision Approval The Orchards (DEIS) dated August 2020 and have the following comments and
questions:
1. Page 1 -3.
"The Suffolk County Department of Health Services has already granted approval for the
siting and preliminary design of the five proposed sanitary systems. "
T -1 This statement is false. Appendix G contains a letter from the SCDH Board of Review that
grants a variance with provisions. The letter and decision language states that "this waiver
does not imply that your application will be automatically approved". The approval is
specific to the allow the use and treatment of known contaminated groundwater in the area
and to protect public health.
Please retract all statements making reference to Suffolk County Department of Health
Services "approval ".
2. Page 2 -7.
"The groundwater underlying the subject property contains concentrations of certain
contaminants in excess of New York State Drinking Water Standards (New York State
Department of Environmental Conservation 2020), i.e. Nitrates, Aldicarb- Sulfoxide and
Aldicarb- Sulfone. Groundwater will be used to supply domestic water to each of the proposed
five dwellings. The potable water supplied fi°om each of the wells will be treated to reduce the
concentration of the three contaminants to below drinking water standards.
When the used domestic tivaler is discharged from the homes, the total concentration of each
contaminant shall be reduced fi-om what the it f.utent would have been il'no trealmcnl here in
!lace. Each of the five divelling ivater treatment systems ejjeclively act as a " pinnp and
treat " remediation system, Thereby aiding in nn 71.0011 Y the 1.011 ldhraler c 110li1 "
T -2 The DEIS claims a reduction of groundwater contamination. The claim is not voluntary as
T -3 presented, rather is a requirement of the SCDH approval. Recognizing the levels of
T -4 contaminants in groundwater, why wasn't a nitrogen reducing VA OWTS proposed to treat
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total nitrogen load in the sanitary effluent thereby reducing impacts to groundwater and
T -5 surface waters? Note that the Planning Board requires I/A OWTS for all new subdivisions in
T -6 the hamlet of Orient. Please provide a detailed analysis of the effectiveness of the
T-7 conventional on -site sanitary system versus an I/A OWTS in treating total nitrogen. And
discuss new SCDHS regulations requiring I/A OWTS in the near future.
3. Page 3 -3 Section 3.2 Water. The DEIS does not adequately describe the characteristics of the
sole source aquifer and the hydrologic conditions on the parcel. Although it is recognized
that the aquifer within this area is not included as a NYSDEC Critical Environmental Area,
the potential adverse impacts to groundwater quality from sanitary systems and homeowner
T -8 practices is moderate to high. Water usage from agriculture is also expected. Please provide a
detailed technical analysis, study, and discussion regarding the sole source aquifer and its
characteristics including the depth of freshwater, freshwater lens, saltwater /freshwater
interface, water supply wells, flow rates, spacing of water supply wells, other existing private
T -9 water wells in the vicinity of the site. What is the aquifer's capacity to support the proposed
T -10 new homes and agricultural use? What is the water budget for the proposed action including
T -11 agricultural uses? What mitigation will be provided to prevent up- coning and salt water
intrusion into the aquifer?
4. Page 3 -4 "Based on the subject property size of 13.3± acres, Suffolk County Wastewater
Management could potentially allow as many as 13 single family residential homes to be
constructed on the subject property. "
T -12 This statement confuses the reader and the issues. Southold Town zoning would not permit
greater than one single family residential unit per 80,000 sq. ft. in the R -80 zoning district
regardless of the SCDH Article 6 density regulations. Please qualify why this density on the
parcel is not possible. The statement is also located on page 3 -7 and should also be qualified.
T -13 5, 3 -4 The DEIS states that public water supply is unavailable for the subject property. It is
important to note that public water is not available for the entire surrounding area and that
potable water supply is obtained from a sole source aquifer, and in addition the test wells
show sins of contamination requiring filtration for any future homes on the site.
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6. Pages 3 -5 and 3 -6
The SCDHS issued a report dated January 19, 2018 (see Appendix N). The sampling revealed
the water in test well #1 exceeded the Suffolk County test well standard of 6 mg1l of nitrates,
but did not exceed the Maximum Contaminant Level (MCL) permitted by Part 5 of the New
York State Sanitary Code (The State of New York 2018). The water in test well #2 exceeded
the MCL for nitrates, Aldicarb Sulfoxide and Aldicarb Sulfone. Each of these contaminants
are commonly found in the groundwater surrounding the subject property and are most likely
attributable to the former use of the subject property, and surrounding properties, as
farmland. each of the proposed residential homes (see Appendix G). On December 17, 2019
the SCDHS Board of Review approved the Applicant's variance request (see Appendix H).
Each dwelling shall be equipped with a potable water treatment system to reduce the
concentration of the target compounds to below the MCL. The Aldicarb treatment removal
devices are free to the homeowners in Orient and are funded by the SCDHS through Bayer
Scientific.
The construction of the five residential homes, and associated water treatment systems, shall
have a positive impact on groundwater quality as each treatment system shall remove the
Aldicarb contaminants from the groundwater supply.
T -14 The Planning Board disagrees with the statement made on page 3 -6 that "Based on SCDHS
approval of the variance, which includes the engineering design layout for the proposed
sanitary system and potable water supply ivell for each proposed residential home, no
significant impact to the groundwater quality or quantity is anticipated.
The variance granted by the SCDH Board of Review as provided in Appendix G of the DEIS
does not imply approval of the subdivision design layout nor does it find that no significant
impact to the groundwater quality or quantity is anticipated. The variance granted was in the
interest of public health and was relevant only to whether there was potable water on site. The
variance document states the following: "The granting of this variance is not a formal;
approval to divide the parcel, or to construct new dwellings or install new sewage disposal
systems or onsite private wells on the subject site ".
T -15 The Planning- Board strongly disagrees with the statement also made on page 3 -4. "SCDHS
approval would not have been issued had the SCDHS review identified a significant impact. "
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The SCDH Board of Review is not charged with the reviewing of a projects potential
moderate to large significant adverse impacts to ground and surface water as a result of
sanitary waste disposal, solid waste disposal, landscaping and the application of herbicides,
fertilizers and pesticides. This statement should be clarified.
7. Page 3 -6. The installation of an irrigation well over a sole source aquifer with known
contamination to a depth of forty-five feet (45'), a maximum flow rate of one hundred
seventy -five (175) gallons per minute and maximum annual production of four million
(4,000,000) gallons of water is a concern. It is recognized that the permit issued by the
NYSDEC requires chloride intrusion monitoring in June and October of each year by a New
York State FLAP certified laboratory.
T -16 What is the projected gallons per day year over year?
T -17 What is the projected zone of influence from the well head?
T -18 What are the potential impacts to private wells in the surrounding area?
T -19 What are mitigation measures for the potential impacts?
T -20 Identify an open space use permitted by Chapter 240 Subdivision of Land of the Southold
Town Code that would use much less potable water and still meet the landowner's goals.
T -21 How will up coning of salt water be prevented?
T-22 What are the drought weather patterns for this location?
T -23 What specific best management practices will be employed to conserve water used to support
crops or livestock.
T -24 What is the plan if chloride is found in the well? Will the Town of Southold be notified?
8. Page 3 -7. The Planning Board strongly disagrees with the statement "The impact of thil-teen
single fanlih, homes discharging wasteii,ater to the subject property is therefore deemed
acceptable bl- the SCDHS vi ith regard to potential impacts to 5117 face and groundwater
T -25 duality.i•oln the i- Vastewater discharge." There is no basis to support this assertion. Article 6
does not account for current conditions, is outdated and cannot supersede the Town zoning on
the parcel. The presentation and continued comparison in the DEIS that attempts to "give
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credit" for the 5 lots mandated by the Southold Town Code residential bulk schedule versus
the 13 lots that are not even possible is confusing to the reader. Please clarify that the 13 lots
are not possible.
9. Page 3 -7 The Planning Board strongly disagrees with the statement " The nitrogen load from
the proposed five single family homes is not anticipated to significantly impact surface or
T -26 groundwater as it represents only 38% of the volume of wastewater permitted to be
discharged by the SCDHS regulation intended to protect water quality. " There is not a
nitrogen load reduction from the permissible yield of 5 lots on the property. The SCDHS
requirements cannot be applied as a rationale to support mitigation.
T -27 Provide a detailed nitrogen budget for the parcel and uses.
10. Page 3 -8 Section 3.4 vegetation. The DEIS states that "Since no species offlora or fauna
were identified as rare, threatened or endangered by the NYSDEC's Natural Heritage
Program via the Resource Mapper, the removal of the existing habitat is not anticipated to
have a significant negative impact. "
The Environmental Resource Mapper website was consulted and the parcel is located within
a Significant Natural Community layer (occurs to the east and west of the parcel). This layer
shows areas within a 1/2 mile of the significant natural communities shown in the layer
above. The natural community identified is Marine Back Barrier Lagoon Long Beach Bay.
If project impacts are being assessed at a location within this vicinity layer, the nearby
T -28 significant natural communities should be considered in the assessment. Please discuss the
potential adverse impacts to the Significant Natural Community.
Note that the Rare Plants and Animals layer occurs just south of the parcel. Old or potential
records include:
Common Name: Marsh Fimbry
Scientific Name: Fimbristylis castanets
Date Last Documented: 1938 -08 -25
Location: Orient Point
NYS Protected: Threatened
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Common Name: Small- flowered Pearlwo►t
Scientific Name: Sagina decumbens ssp. decumbens
Date Last Documented: 1910 -06 -20
Location: Orient Point
NYS Protected: Endangered
Common Name: Marsh Straw Sedge
Scientific Name: Carex hormathodes
Date Last Documented: 1926 -06 -01
Location: Orient
NYS Protected: Threatened
Common Name: Sea -pink
Scientific Name: Sabatia stellaris
Date Last Documented: 1910 -09 -19
Location: Orient Point
NYS Protected: Threatened
Common Name: New Jersey Pine Barrens Tiger Beetle
Scientific Name: Cicindela patruela consentonea
Date Last Documented: 1944 -10 -02
Location: Orient
NYS Protected: Unlisted
Common Name: Large Grass- leaved Rush
Scientific Name: Ancus biflorits
Date Last Documented: 1928 -08 -01
Location: Orient
NYS Protected: Endangered
Common Name: Scotch Lovage
Scientific Name: Ligztslicum scolhicum ssp. scothicum
Date Last Documented: 1980 -07 -11
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Location: Orient
NYS Protected: Endangered
Common Name: Golden Dock
Scientific Name: Rumex fueginus
Date Last Documented: 1926 -10
Location: Orient
NYS Protected: Endangered
Common Name: Woodland Agrimony
Scientific Name: Agrinionia rostellata
Date Last Documented: 1932 -08 -22
Location: Orient
NYS Protected: Threatened
Common Name: Short -fruit Rush
Scientific Name: Juncus brachycarpus
Date Last Documented: 1940 -07 -30
Location: Orient
NYS Protected: Endangered
T -29 Please contact the NYS Natural Heritage Program to determine if protected vegetation
species occur on site.
12. Page 3 -9 Section 3.5 Wildlife
T -30 The DEIS does not include a discussion on the eastern box turtle, as a New York State - listed
species of Special Concern. The species requires some measure of protection to ensure that
the species does not become threatened. Species of special concern are protected wildlife
pursuant to Environmental Conservation Law section 11- 0103(5)(c).
Northern lone eared bat
T -31 Correspondence from DEC and the New York Natural Heritage Program (NYNHP) indicates
that no agency records currently exist for northern long -eared bat on the parcel, however, this
is not a definitive assessment on the current or future use of the site by the species. It is
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recommended that Ms. Michelle Gibbons at the NYS DEC is contacted at 631- 444 -0306 to
determine if the habitat is suitable for the species habit. Please provide an assessment of
these species potential for occurring on or using the site.
13. Page 5 -1 The DEIS states that the "The total estimated agricultural land lost by the proposed
construction is 1.12 acres (48,750 SQ. FT.). Based on the total property area of 13.3025 acres,
the agricultural land lost represents only approximately 8% of the total property area. The
remaining 92% of the subject property agricultural land shall be used for agricultural
purposes, bushes, trees, lawn, landscape areas, and natural vegetation. "
T -32 This claim that the agricultural land lost by the proposed construction is 1.12 acres is not
correct. The total agricultural land lost is equal to the acreage of all the areas proposed for
development. Please provide the total estimated agricultural lands lost.
14. Page 6 -1 Section 6 -2 Preservation
The DEIS states that "The Preservation alternative would eliminate benefits provided by the
proposed project. A brief summary of the benefits that would be lost include:
1. Return fallow agricultural land to productive use."
T -33 This statement is not correct. The preservation of property by the Town or other
qualified entity does not preclude returning land to agriculture.
T -34 15. The Southold Town Comprehensive Plan was adopted in 2020. Please assess the project to
the document. Include an assessment on climate change and sea level rise.
T -35 16. Note that the Suffolk County GIS Viewer map SLOSH layer identifies the parcel as being
affected by a Category 3 and 4 Hurricane. The only area excluded from the model is the
southwest corner of the parcel. How will future potential flooding be addressed?
T -36 17. The subdivision design of the proposed action does not meet the Town Code subdivision
design requirements of Chapter 240. The design proposes four separate driveways where the
code requires a single entrance via a new road. Chapter 240 -45 B (15) states the following:
Except in a conservation subdivision 01" open developinellt 01 -ea, subdivisions where more
than 300 feet of land fronts on a public street shall provide access to proposed lots by
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way of a new street. Multiple building lots and fronting of more than two building lots on
an existing street shall be prohibited.
T -37 In addition, the flag lots do not meet the standards set in the code. The flags are excessive in
length and the lots do not meet the minimum lot area of the zoning district. The flags appear
to be a means to circumvent a standard lot and street arrangement. See code section cited
below:
240 -45 D. Flag lots. The Planning Board may permit a limited number of flag lots in a
residential subdivision plat, provided that they are well shaped, they are generally larger
than usual lots, their accessway is essentially straight and not excessive in length and
their arrangement will not create traffic difficulties on the street system and would not be
a means to circumvent a standard lot and street arrangement which might otherwise
result in a generally better platting of the subdivision and adjacent lands.
(1) To assure that the flag lot is of adequate size and shape, a flag lot located within
the residential zones shall contain at least the minimum lot area of the applicable
zoning district in which it is situated, within the bulk of the lot, exclusive of the
area contained in the flagpole access strip.
(2) In allowing flag lot arrangements in subdivision, the Planning Board may
require either a formal private lane or common access driveway to service such
lots and may require that such lanes or common access driveways be made part
of the improvements to be undertaken and made part of a performance bond
(3) The Planning Board may adopt, further policies or regulations to assure
compliance with these requirements, including design and legal specifications for
the creation of lanes and common access driveways over such flag lot
arrangements.
T -38 18. There doesn't appear to be enough in itigation proposed to avoid groundwater depletion, salt
water intrusion and groundwater pollution. Water usage is related to house size and the area
that is landscaped with plants that need frequent watering, including lawn area. In addition, if
agriculture is planned on the open space area, there will be even more groundwater depletion
from irrigation. This needs more specific evaluation of anticipated water usage including
landscape and lawn irrigation, agricultural irrigation and household water use. Evaluate the
water usage impact on water quantity, quality, saltwater intrusion /upconing, effects on
neighboring wells. What mitigation will be provided for these impacts?
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Attachment A
Nancy and Mark Ferraris
3585 Orchard Street ♦ Orient NY 11957
nancyferraris @me.com ♦ 516.375.8149
January 11, 2021
Ms. Heather Lanza, Director
Town Planning Department
Town of Southold
Town Hall Annex Building - 54375 Route 25
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, NY 11971
Via Email: heather ,lanza @town.southold.ny.us
mark. terry@ town. southold.ny. us
Re: Draft EIS for Subdivision Approval of
"The Orchards" - Dated August 2020
Proposed "Cluster" Subdivision"
2595 Orchard Street, Orient NY
SCTM # 1000 -27- 1 -3
Dear Director Lanza and Board Members:
The following is a supplement to our November 23, 2020 submission.
Since the last public hearing on December 7, 2020, we engaged an environmental
consulting firm, Equity Environmental Engineering LLC, to provide a preliminary
review of the water quality and quantity issues presented in the Draft EIS.
The preliminary findings and outstanding concerns are as follows:
Water Quality: Groundwater Test Results in DEIS
1. Groundwater samples from 11/17/2015
a. Wells #1 and #2 were installed to a total depth of 42 feet below grade.
b. Neither Well #1 nor Well #2 showed exceedances of the Maximum
Contaminant Levels (MCLs) of any compounds.
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2. Groundwater samples from 8/17/2017
a. Wells #1 and # 2 were installed to a total depth of 65 feet below grade.
b. Well #1 had nitrate concentrations in excess of the Suffolk County test
well standard of 6 mg /L, but below the MCL of 10 mg /L.
c. Well #2 had nitrate concentrations in excess of the Suffolk County test
well standard of 6 mg /L and in excess of the MCL of 10 mg /L (11.2 mg /L)
Well # 2 had an exceedance of the MCL (2.0 ug /L) of aldicarb sulfone (4.2
ug /L) and an aldicarb sulfoxide (6.0 ug /L) exceedance of the MCL of 4.0
ug /L.
e. Well #2 had a concentration of 1,2- dibromoethane that equaled the MCL
of 0.05 ug /L.
Outstanding Concerns:
• The DEIS proposes to treat the water by using a Point of Entry Treatment
System at the main water line that will require monitoring, and change out of
treatment units on a continuing basis. What will ensure that monitoring and
appropriate action will take place on a regular basis?
• Although some of the contaminant concentrations in the August 2017 sampling
event exceeded the Suffolk County Test Well Standard, most of them were below
the National Drinking Water Standard. However, with an increase in pumping to
accommodate the residential demand for the development, would higher
concentrations of contaminants be drawn into the wells?
Water Quantity: North Fork Aquifer Profile
1. USGS Reports Information on North Fork Groundwater Quantity 2
a_ "Fresh ground water on the North Fork is contained within a series of four
hydraulically isolated freshwater flow systems that extend through the upper
glacial and Magothy aquifers. These freshwater flow systems are bounded
laterally by saltwater (in areas near the shore), and at depth by saline ground
water. The movement of fresh ground water in this area is controlled by the
2 Hydrogeologic Framework of the North Fork and Surrounding Areas, Long Island, New York Water -
Resources - Investigations Report 02 -4284 prepared by USGS in cooperation with the Suffolk County
Water Authority (2004); Hydrogeologic- Setting Classification for Suffolk County, Long Island, New York
With Results of Selected Aquifer -Test Analyses by Richard A. Cartwright (1997); USGS Open File Report
96 -457
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hydraulic properties and boundary conditions of the freshwater flow systems, and
by the distribution of hydraulic head within and adjacent to them."
"The extent of fresh ground water on the North Fork is limited by the natural
hydrologic boundaries of the freshwater flow systems and, therefore, by the
hydraulic stresses that control the rate at which freshwater enters and exits the
system. Freshwater is separated from denser saltwater by a zone of diffusion at
the freshwater - saltwater interface, which acts as a relatively impermeable
boundary that moves gradually in response to changes in the balance between
recharge and discharge. The absence of any hydraulic connection to the
Greenport flow system or the Orient flow system indicates that freshwater within
these two flow systems can be replenished only through recharge from
precipitation. Freshwater above the lower confining unit is hydraulically
connected to freshwater beneath this unit in three areas —near Mattituck Creek,
southwest of James Creek, and near the northwestern shore of Flanders Bay —
where the lower confining unit is absent."
c. Freshwater -Salt Water Interface
"This hydrogeologic setting is restricted to the eastern forks of Long Island and
represents freshwater lenses that are bounded laterally and below by saltwater.
The freshwater lenses are isolated from the rest of Long Island's fresh
groundwater system and, therefore, have no adjacent freshwater source that
could provide recharge."
"The North Fork contains a series of freshwater lenses, that generally decrease
in thickness eastward. Thicknesses range from about 550 ft (Bohn - Buxton and
others, 1996) at the western end of the North Fork to about 90 ft (McNees and
Arav, 1995) near the eastern end and approach zero close to the shore."
"Under natural (non - pumping) conditions, the position of the freshwater /saltwater
interface represents a relatively static balance of fluid pressures of the freshwater
and the denser, underlying saltwater. The position of this interface can shift in
response to changes in pumping and other hydrologic stresses."
"Movement of the freshwater /saltwater interface results in a zone of diffusion,
and excessive withdrawals from public - supply wells can cause upconing of
saltwater and move the interface far enough inland to cause contamination of the
freshwater supply. The other major source of groundwater degradation in this
hydrogeologic setting is surface contaminants, especially pesticides and
fertilizers used on the many farms in this area; Soren and Stelz (1984) cited
widespread contamination by the highly toxic carbamate pesticide, aldicarb
(trademark TEMIK, Union Carbide Corp. 1) on the North and South Forks."
As is well known and documented, the hydrogeologic setting of the North Fork is
most vulnerable. With maximum water pumping from below ground, evidence of
salt water has begun to intrude into the aquifer. This situation is exacerbated by
the permanent water level shifts and global warming trends, as local ground
water tables are trending toward dropping permanently. Changing sea levels
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due to global warming can be expected to affect coastal drinking water wells by
raising the level of salty water.
Based on the above information, determining the availability of groundwater in the area
through hydraulic testing is needed.
Outstanding Concerns
• The Draft EIS provides no evidence that hydraulic testing has been or is
scheduled to be performed. The purpose of the test is to determine the ability of
the aquifer to support the proposed pumping and to design the pump system that
is appropriate for the local conditions. The location of test should be on the
subject property in question.
• If the pump test shows that the available flow rate is less than that needed for the
development as proposed, restriction on the scope of the proposed development
will required and the proposed plan modified.
2. Agricultural Irrigation 3
The Draft EIS provides a NYS DEC letter dated July 30, 2018 provides for an
Irrigation Permit that allows pumping of groundwater from the surficial aquifer for
irrigation use. It states that: "Installation and operation of one (1) 6 -inch diameter
irrigation well to a depth of 45 feet and equipped with a pumping capacity of 175
gallons per minute (gpm) ". It also states that he Annual Pumpage is limited to 4
million gallons per calendar year.
Since there is no mention of conservation efforts in neither the SCHDS nor the
NYSDEC, it is undetermined as to whether these conditions are appropriate for this
subject site and the larger Orient and North Fork community.
Outstanding Concerns:
• Although the permit authorizes the capacity of 175 gpm, the Draft EIS does not
provide pump testing evidence that this capacity can be supported by the
groundwater supply, particularly with full build -out of the proposed plan combined
with aggressive, unrestricted, agricultural use of the open space designated as
part of Lot 1.
• Typically, irrigation pumping rates are higher than residential pumping rates,
putting greater stress on the aquifer, and potentially increasing the lowering of
the water table and saltwater intrusion. Furthermore, a dry season can make it
worse.
3 NYS DEC Permit ID 1- 4738 - 04435/00001- Modification # 1 Expiration Date 6/28/2027
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• The adjacent residential development proposed on the subject site as well as the
nearby homes will be negatively impacted for years to come if proper testing is
not required and if Open Space Conservation Easement does not provide
restrictions for use /activities, crop limitations, and the water - related issues.
Highlighting the shortcomings of the Draft EIS as it relates to water quality and quantity
is of the utmost importance. The Planning Board's evaluation of the Open Space
Conservation Easement will also be critical as it needs to address many issues that will
guide the subdivision and its impact on the community well into the future
This priority, along with the many other factors detailed in our November 23rd
submission, clearly supports the need for the Planning Board to demand better from the
Applicant.
Thank you very much for your consideration.
Respectfully submitted,
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Nancy and Mark Ferraris
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