HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-12/28/1984SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
DECEMBER 28, :1984
WORK SESSION
Present: Supervisor Francis J. Mur'phy, Councilman Joseph L. Townsend, Jr.,
Councilman Paul Stoutenburgh, Councilman James A. Schondebare, Councilwoman
Jean W. Cochran, Town Clerk Judith T. Terry, Town Attorney Robert W. Tasker.
9:00 A.M. - The Board audited outstanding vouchers.
10:00 A.M. - Francis'J. Yakaboski, 'Special Attorney, met with the Board to discuss
his 1984 billing for legal services, the per hour rate for which was set by a '1981
agreement, and his proposal for amending said agreement .1985. This matter will
be discussed further by the Board at the January 3, :1985 Organizational Meeting.
EXECUTIVE SESSION
:10:15 A.M. - The Board discussed witfi Mr. Yakaboski pending litigation: Wade
vs. Town of Southold, Silverman/Cartnick vs. Town of Southold, Cron vs. Planning
Board and Hodor-Staller vs. Town of Southold.
· 10:47 A.M. - The Work Session reconvened and the Board me~ with Town Trustees
Frank A. Kujawski, :Jr., John L. Bednoski, 'Jr. and President Henry P. Smith to
discuss the need for a second Bay Constable, the subject of Resolution No. 13.
11:20 A.M. - The Board discussed off-a~enda items: junk yards, Waterfront Re-
vitalization Grant application, as well as a~lenda resolutions.
12:10 P.M. - Work Session adjourned.
REGULAR MEETING
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held on Friday, December
28, .1984, at the Southoid Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York, Supervisor
Murphy opened the meeting at 12:15 P.M. with the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
Present: St~pervisor Francis'J. Murphy
Councilman Joseph L. Townsend, Jr.
Councilman Paul Stou~enburgh
Councilman James A. Schondebare
Councilwoman Jean W. Cochran
Town Clerk Judith T.I Terry
Town Attorney Rober{ W. Tasker
Absent: Justice Raymond W. Edwards
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you for being so patient. We're delayed today. We
had an attorney come in and discuss some items that we really hadn't planned upon
and this was on his time, too. I'd like a motion to approve the December 28th audit
of the bills.
DECEMBER 28, 1984
Moved by CouncilWoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was
RESOLVED that the followin9 audited bills be and hereby are ordered paid: General
Fund Whole Town bills in the amount of $50,~899.82; General Fund Part Town bills
in the amount of $18,448.62; Highway Department bills in the amount of $8,865.23;
Fishers Island Ferry Districi bills in the amount of $35,959.05; Federal Revenue
Sharing bills in the amount of $2,520'.00; and Southold Wastewater Treatment Plant
bills in the amount of $578.00.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared-duly ADOPTED. -~
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I look for a motion to approve the minutes of the Regular
Town Board Meeting of December 18th.
Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, i~ was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the RecJular Town Board Meetin9 of December 18, ~1984
be and hereby are approved.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This :resolution was declared-duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Next, a resolution to set the next meeting dates. The
first one is January 3rd, ~1985 an Organizational Meeting. at 3:00 P.M., Southold
Town Hall and the second is January 8tit, ~1985 a Regular Meeting at 7:.30 P.M.
I offer that.
Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Councilman Stoutenbur§h, it was
RESOLVED that the next two meetings of the Southold Town Board shall be as
follows: 3:00 P.M., Thursday, January 3, ~1985, Organizational Meetin9, Southold
Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York, AND 7:30 P.M., Tuesday, January 8,
4985, Southold Town Hall, Main:Road, Southold, New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
I; REPORTS
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: There are no Reports unless any of the Councilmen Would
like to say something at this time. Jay?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: No, nothing. ! hope everyone had a Merry
Christmas, that's all.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Joe? (No, thanks.) Jean? (Nothing, thank you.) Paul?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Nothing, except that the Dredging Committee has
met and that we are formulatin9 a priority list right now and we'll have that for the
Board's approval.
I1. PUBLIC NOTICES.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, the second item on the agenda is public notices.
1. New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, Notice, of
Complete Application by Ralph Stocker to construct timber bulk and return, off
shore, of mean high water, place floats, ramps and walkway parallel to bulkhead,
and dredge, Dawn Canal, Greenport. Written. comments to the DEC by January 4,
,1985.
2. New York State DEC, Notice of Complete Application by Robert G, Norkus
to subdivide a 4.38 acre parcel into 4 lots, Cedar Beach Harbor, Southold; Written
comments by January 11th, :1985..
III. COMMUNICATIONS & PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY; There are no Communications or Public Hearings today.
We',Il move right on to Resolutions.
V. RESOLUTIONS.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: The first one, Jean, would :you like to do it.
Moved by CouncilWoman Cochran, seconded by Supervisor Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints the
followinCJ individuals to the Southold Town Housing Advisory Committee, effective
immediately; no compensation for this po'sition:
Four (4) Members for a Term of Three (3) Years : (expires 12/28/87):
Bessie E. Swann
Loisanne R. Callis
Anthony Leone
James C. McMahon
DECEMBER 28, 1984
Four (4) Members for a Term of Two (2) Years (expires 12/28/86~):
Edith Crosley
David J. S. Emilita
Walter Krupski
James E. Litchhult
Four (4) Members for a Term of One (1) Year (expires 12/28/85):
Douglas V. Clark
James R. Bryer
Herbert R. Mandel
George W. Wetmore
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any other questions
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: I'd like to amend
McMahon and Dave Emilita on a one year basi:
they're on there is because it has to do with
and that's subject to change on a year by ye~
them on for one year---
~n it?
hat resolution, only to put Jim
primarily because the reason
heir employment with the Town
basis, so I think if you put
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: It has nothing to do with their employment. They volunteered.
This'is not part of their job. They're not being paid for this~
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: I understand, but Dave Emilita doesn't even live here
and if 'he doesn't work here next year, or if 'he doesn't work here two years from
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: That's his problem, then he'd have to resign from the
Committee.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: That's true.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: If he doesn't make the meetings. Hopefully we'll have our
housing problems solved in one year.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Yes, I had him' origi'nally for a one year term., those
two, because of their :positions with the Town, but they. can resign from the Committee
if they do leave the area. Six of one and half a dozen of the other, Joe.
- COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Okay.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any other questions?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Yes, we agreed, and when this came on once before~
that we weren't going to vote on it until We received a job description. We still
don't have the job description and yet we're going to vote on it and i,m going to
make it my policy not to vote on this, or any other committees, .and appoint anyone
to it 'if we don't have a job description of what it 'is 'we're appointing these people
to do.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Jay~ they did receive that when they applied.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: What we want is'rules and regulatiori~ for this
Committee. We don't have any rules and regulations or guidelines for this
Committee. We set up nothing, yet we're appointing people to it.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: When you established the Committee you did have guidelines.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: No, we don't.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: In the resolution.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: We don't have them. We don't, have anything.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Well, .actually, Jay, the purpose of this'Committee we
all know and that's the goal of the Committee is to solve some of the housing
problems. The nitty gritty as far as objectives of the goals will be developed
and that's being develol~ed by Jim McMahon. Either way, you had twelve applicants
and you're filling twelv~ spots and I think they could go with this'and your main
goal is ~to solve the pro~lem of affordable housing, sb you do have a goal. It's
the workings of the Committee, and many, committees have the right to determine
some of their own workings, and guidelines are being developed with more specifics,
but---either way you're going to, come up with the same twelve people.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: My question and my position is not with regards to
these twelve people. My position is that before.we start appointing to people to
the Committee we ought to have the specifications of what the Committee is going to
do and what we want r and that should be approved by this Board.
DECEMBER 28, 1984
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Can I. call for the vote?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any other questions on it? (No response.)
1.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Stoutenburgh,
Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. Abstaini Councilman Schondebareo
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number ~2 to place a notice in the papers.
Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded' by Supervisor Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizesl and
directs the Town Clerk to pl~ace a public'notice in:The Lon9 Island Travelel- and
The Suffolk Times notif¥in9 the public that. the Town Board will consider propOsed
amendments to the Community Development Year X Program Bridget at thei~i"~egula.r
Meetin9 to be held at 3:00 P.M.r Tuesday, January 22, 1985. as follows, and invite~
interested citizens to attend this meeting and to comment on the proposed amendmentS:
Current New
Project Budget Increase Decrease Budget
Cutchogue Free
Library FX X $10, 000,.:00 .-0- $10,000~.,00 -0-
N.F. Head
Start FY X $ 5,O00..,00 ~.0- $ 5,000.00 ~0-
Housing Rehabilitation
FY X $32,:500..00 $15,000.:00 ~0- $47,500.00
2.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: CouncilWoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy;'
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 3 is to amend a Resolution of December 18th.
Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of So~thold hereby amends their
Resolution No. 16 adopted on December 18, :1984-, setting 8:.00 'P.M., Tuesday,
January 8, 1985:, Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York as time
and place for a rehearin9 of the petition of Harold Reese and Frederick Reese
for relief from the Bulk requirements of the Zonin9 Code as provided in Local
Law No. 11 - .1983 to read: 3:35 P.M., Tuesday, January 22, :1985.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
3.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: .Number 4, Ray, you're out in:the audience here, we are
going to hold, at the advice of Counsel, to di,scuss further. I'll put it on the
agenda for the January 8th meeting.
MR. REYNOLD F. BLUM: i had a very brief statement, since the Town Board
was not complete the last time we met, which I. could make now---
'SUPERVISOR MURPHY: There's one member missing.
MR. BLUM: I'll make it next time then.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Yes. I would appreciate the statement then, or if you'd
lik~, send it in writing and I'!1 pass it out.
(Resolution No. 4 was a decision on the petition of Reynold F. Blum for a change
of zone from "A" to "B-I" at Cutchogue.)
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 5 is -a Local Law.
£OUNClLMAN SCHONDEBARE: ~ Where, a proposed Local Law No. 10 - .1984 was
introduCed at a meeting of this Board held on the 4th day of December, .1984, and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held there on by the Board on the 18th day of
December, .1984, at which time all interested persons were given an opportunity to
be heard thereon, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that Local Law No. 10 - 1984: be enacted as follows:
LOCAL LAW NO..10 - 1984
"A Local Law in relation to Residence Parking Permit Fees"
BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows: (Additions
indicated by _und~rl!ne; deletions by (brackets] .)
DECEMBER 28, 1984
I. Subdivision A(2) ~Residence parkin_cl' ~ermits) of Section 65-3 of Chapter 65
(Parking at Beaches) is hereby amended ']~o read as follows:
(2) The Town Clerk or a person designated by [him] the Town Clerk
shall inspect such application to determine that the applicant is a
qualified resident of the town. Upon approval of the application,
a resident parking permit shall be issued and inscribed with the
vehicle license registration number. Such permit shall not be trans-
ferred to any other vehicle. [Upon payment of the permit fee, a
resident shall be entitled to a permit for each vehicle owned by
him if such vehicle is registered to an address witfiii~ the Town of
Southold. ]
Ii. This Local Law shall take,effect upon its 'filing with the Secretary of State.
SUPERVISOR MIJRPHY: Second.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I didn't so move it.'
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Do you want to read it then?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Oh, I know what it says, I just didn't move it.
COUNCILMAN'TOWNSEND: He voted-against this--
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I know exactly what it says.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: Is somebody making the motion?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: ~ No, I just read it.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Would someone like to make the motion?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I'll make the motion.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I'll second it.
$.-Resolution No~ 5, as previously read by Councilman Schondebare, was moved by
Councilman Stoutenburgh and seconded by Supervisor Murphy.
5.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Stou~tenburgh,
Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. No: Councilman Schondebare.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 6 is to enact another Local Law.
6. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Townsend,
WHEREAS, a proposed Local Law No. 11 - ~1984 was introduced at a meeting of
this Board held on the 4th day of December, ~1984, and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held thereon by the Board on the 18th day of
December, 1984, at which time all interested persons were given an opportunity
to be heard thereon, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that Local Law No. 11 - 1984 be enacted as follows~:
LOCAL LAW NO. 11 - 7984
"A Local Law to amend the Southold Town Code in relation to parking of vehicles"
BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of. the Town of Southold as follows: (additions
indicated by underline; deletions I~y [b[',ackets].)
Chapter, 92 (Vehicle and Traffic) of the Code of the Town of Southold is
hereby amended as follows:
I. Article IV thereof is amended by adding a new section thereto, to be Section
42.1, to read as follows:
Section 42.1. Parking proh~ited during certain months
The parkin9 o£' vehicles is hereby-prohibited durin9 the months indicated
(both inclusive) in any of the followin9 locations:
Name of Street Side
Beckwith Avenue West
During Months of
(Both Inclusive)
December to and
includin9 March
Location~ ~
in Southold
between N.Y. Route
25 and Traveler Street
II. By amending Section' 92-42 thereof by adding thereto the following:
Between the
Name of Street Side Hours of Location
Marratooka Road Both 10:00 P.M. and In Mattituck from southerly
-: .................... 7:00 A.M. terminus thereof northerly
to. Park Avenue
III. This Local Law shall take effect upon its filing with the Secretary of State.
6.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly. ADOPTED.
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DECEMBER 28, 198zi
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 7 is to accept a bid for gasoline for 1985:.
7. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the bid
of Goldsmith & ~Tuthill, Inc. for SUpl~yin9 the Town of Southold with Gasoline for
the calendar year 1985 as follows:
No-Lead Gasoline $.8485 delivered price
Regular Gasoline- ................. $.8085 delivered price
7.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: CouncilWoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 8 is'to accept another bid'for heating oil.
8. Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the bid
of Goldsmith & ~Tuthill, Inc. for supplyin~l the Town of Southold with No. 2 Heat-
in9 Fuel Oil for the, calendar year 1985, as follows: $.8545 delivered price.
8.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly-ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 9 is to accepl~a bid for diesel fuel.
9. Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by CouncilWoman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the bid
of Goldsmith & 'Tuthill, Inc. for supplyin9 the Town of Southold with Diesel Fuel
for the calendar year 1985 as follows:
Regular Diesel .................... $.~8915 delivered price
Premium Die~el ..... ~ ............. $.9035 delivered price
' 9.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 10 is a transfer of funds in FiShers Island Ferry
Dis~ricl~.
10. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it 'was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorize's the
followin9 transfer within the Fishers Island Ferry Oisl~rict :1984 Budget:
From: Repairs Docks and Buildings ....... r ........... $10,000.00
Into: Repairs Ferry- .... - ............................ $10~000.00
10.=Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, CoUncilman Townsend,' Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 11 is to grant a 7% salary in~rement to Fishers
Island Ferry personnel.
11.
Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby concurs with the
Board of Commissioners of the Fishers Island Ferry Disi'rict in grantin9 a seven
percent (7%) salary increment to the followin9 Fishers Island Ferry District personnel:
Appointed - Salary
1. Robert P. Knauff
Part-time- Hourly
1. Thomas F. Allig0od
2. John J. Piacenza
3. Donald F. Stankiewicz
4. Michael Londregan
5. Donald Hayes
6. Wilt'red Szalkowski '
7. Newton Augiar
8. Stephen Brennan
9. Kenneth L. Edwards, Jr.
'10. Robert Jordan
11. Christopher Londregan
12. Carl Rood
13. Peter Strife
14. William Toivonen
I5. David White
:16. Elizabeth Wilcox
17. Walter Barnard
18.: Brian Kingsbury
;19. Richard Martel
20. Evelyn Clarke
Position
.M__apager-Secretary
Position
Purser
Purser
Purser
Deckhand
Deckh a nd
Deckhand
Deckhand
Deckhand
Deckhand
Deckhand
Deckhand
Deckhand
Deckhand
Deckhand
Deckha nd
Freight Agent
Captain (Operator)
Captain' (Operator)
Captain (Operator)
Clerk
ll.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This:resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DECEMBER 28, 1984
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SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 12 is't0~ authorize' the encumberances for the
Fishers Island Ferry Disl~rict in their'.1984 Budget.
12. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
following encumberances within the Fishers Island Ferry Disl~rict ,1984, Budget:
Operation Ferry SU,, 990.00
Purchae of a 1979 Ford diesel tractor to replace Circa 1950 Ford 8N
gasoline tractor at Fishers Island Terminal. Lewis S. Bull d/b/a
L. S. Bull Farm and Forest Products, :200 'Upper Pattagansett Road,
East Lyme, CT. 06333
Airport $1~, 970.00
Replacement of seven windows in hangar building which are deterioPated
and not repairable. Ao John 'Gada General Contracting, Inc. Drawer B,
Fishers Island, NY 06390.
12.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.,
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
13.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 13 is a.provisional appointment as a Bay Constable.
Moved by CouncilWoman Cochran, seconded by Supervisor Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Michael
Fingerle, provisionally pending a..Civil Service test, to the position of Bay Constable
for the Town of Southold, effective January 1, 1985, at an annual salary of $13,000.00.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions?
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: I'd like to table the motion to discuss how we could
,accomplish some of the goals that I discussed in the Work Session. I think that---
although I have nothing against Mr. Fingerle, I'm sure he's doing an excellent job,
and has done an excellent job, by all reports at any rate, but ! feel that we can
reorganize' at this point and might set a trend towards increasing the efficiency in'
Town government by doing it.: That's all I'd like to say. So I request that we
table the motion.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: Are you making a motion?
COUN'C'ILMAN., TOWNSEND:~:_.yes ......... '.;-:' :'.' -'.: .,.ii;'~.,-- _ -- ',- :,-._ ~'.''-
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Would someone like to second Joe's motion to table?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Let me ask a question. The last time this came
on I voted against it. i assume that the three of you down at the other end of
the table on the dais-will vote for it,' Joe's against it. I don't agree with Joe
on the Police Department enforcing this ordinance. I don't see that working and
I don't see that as a viable alternative to hiring someone. I was persuaded by
the Trustees and their comments today and likewise by yourself, Mr. Townsend.
How long do you want to table this thing, if we went along with tabling it?
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Until the Police Committee has a chance to meet.
Until we discuss specific 'goals, what exactly the Police would do and how it'
would work within their existing grounds. Possible creation of a Marine--like
they have a Youth Officer, perhaps we could create a couple of officers to have
that duty that would be something that they Would take into consideration when
the were assigned their tours of duty. You know, we could ;discuss the possibilities
of the various ways we couJd -accomplish---
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Do you want to have a meeting of the Police
Committee which is basically yourself, myself an~l the Supervisor.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: And, of course, the Chief and perhaps the Lieutenant.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: All right, is there a second?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I'll second the motion to table it.
MOTION TO TABLE RESOLUTION NO. 13:
Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Schondebare it was
RESOLVED that Resolution No. 13 be tabled.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Schondebare, Councilm~ Townsend.
Noes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared LOST.
DECEMBER 28, 1984
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Now, are there any other questions on the original
resolution ?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I'm not ready to vote on that. I haven't made up
my mind on it. I'll abstain.
'i~..-~VOTE ON RESOLUTION NO. 13:
13.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochranj Councilman Stoutenburgh,
Supervisor Murphy. Abstain: Councilman Schondebare. No: Councilman Townsend.
This resolution was declared LOST.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 14.is to appoint part-time Police Officers.
14.
Moved by Councilman. Schondebare, seconded by Councilman Townsend~ it ~was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints ~he
following part-time Police Officers, effective January 15, .1985, at a .salary Of
$5.00 per hour, and authorizes them to attend the Police Officer Trainin9 School
at the Suffolk County Police Academy, Westhampton, New York, for a period of
· 285 hours, at no salary, they to provide their own transportation: Pamela Kehl~
Eric Hubbard, and Thomas Gralton.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions on it? (No response.)
14.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes:
Councilman Townsend, Supervisor
This resolution was declared duly
CouncilWoman Cochran, Councilman SChondebare,
Murphy. No:~ Councilman Stoutenburgh~
ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 15 to appoint part-time Police Officers for the
year of 1985~.
15.
Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Supervisor Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints the
following part-time_Police O'~ficers, effective January 1, ;1985~ at a salary of
$5.00 per hour: Joseph__ IConway~, Jr.:, 'Henry. Sant~croce, Jr., Edward Gra~hwohl.
~.$6'.~00 'per'h0u~: Alan Cze~atka.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any~questions?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: They were all hired last.year?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Yes. They all have attended the Academy and all worked
this past year, 1984. Any other questions? (No response.)
15.-Vote of the Town Board: Abstain: CouncilWoman Cochran. Ayes: Councilman
Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR.MURPHY: Number 16 is'rd set a public hearing.
16. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Supervisor Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby sets 3:30 P.M.~
Tuesday~ January 22, ~1985, Southold Town Hall, Main Road~ Southold, New York
as time and place for a public hearin9 for the purpose of determinin9 ~he need and
location of a public project, to consist of the acquisition of 2. 796 acres of real
property located on the northerly side of Lower Road, at Southold, Suffolk County.,
New York, and the construction thereon of a Recharge Basin, to alleviate highway
floodin9 conditions. The public project will be located on real property described
as follows: All that certain plot, piece or parcel of land situate, lying andi being
at Southold, in the Town of Southold, County of Suffolk and State of New York,
bounded and described as follows: BEGINNING at a monument set on the northerly
line of Lower Road at the southwesterly corner of land now or formerly of Edwin A.
Smith and Johanna A. Smith, being the southeasterly corner of the premises herein
described; running thence along said northerly line of Lower Road, South 53 degrees
15 minutes 50 seconds West 404.05 feet; running thence along other land of Edward A.
Prechtl and Eleanor M. Prechtl, North 44 degrees 22 minutes 40 seconds west 608.24
feet to a monument and the northwesterly- corner of said land of Smith; running thence
along said land of Smith, South 75 degrees 33 minutes 00 seconds East 773.68 feet
to the point or place of BEGINNING.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions on it? (No response.) This is'the Prechtl
property, it's a two and a half acre piece that the Town is going to take through
condemnation for a very severe drainage problem on Lower Road and the park
there and also one that's causing a tremendous amount of pollution to Jockey Creek.
16o-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwor~an Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 17 is a trans~fer of funds in the Highway Department.
17. Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
followin~ transfer within the Highway Department 1984 Budget:
From: DA9040.8 - Workmen's Compensation ......... $2,000.00
In to: DA51.30.4 - Contractual ...................... $2,000.00
17.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 18 is to accept the insurance proposal for the
year ~1985.
18. Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of~ Southold hereby .accepts the proposal'
of Val Stype & Sons, Inc. for the Town's .1985 Insurance Pro~lram at a total cost of
$164,923.00.
18.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 19 is tq accept a bid~
19. Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the bid
of B. P. Wreckers, Ltd. for the. collection, storacje~ removal and purchase of all
Scrap Paper deposited at the Southold Town Landfill Site during] the period from
January 1,. 1985 throu~lh December 31, 1985, at the following price: $1,655.87.
19.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 20 is to accept a bid for scrap metal.
20.
Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by CouncilWoman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accept..s, the bid
of North Fork Sanitation Service 'for the collection, storage, removal and purchase
of all Scrap Metal deposited at the Southold Town Landfill Site durin~l the period
from January 1, .1985 through December 31, 1985 at the following price: $4,160.00.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
20.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: CouncilWoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 21 is to accept a proposal on a water treatment
district.
21.
Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby .accepts the proposal
of ERM-Northeast to assist the Towns of Southold and Riverhead in establishin~ home
water treatment districts, at a total cost of $,19,000.00 if Southold and Riverhead
participate, or a total, cost of $12, 600.'00 for the Town of Southold if Riverhead does
not particiPate, and be ir'further
RESOLVED that Supervisor Francis 'J. Murphy be and he hereby is authorized and
directed to execute an a~treement between the Town of Southold and ERM-Northeast
to assis~ in'establishing home water treatment districts.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Wait a minute, question on it. Where's the agree-
ment?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: You had a proposal.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I'm looking at a letter.
TOWN CLERK,'~.TERRY: It was copied on November 21st.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We've been holding it ~,hile we've been waiting to hear
from Riverhead.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: And Riverhead we haven't heard from?
S.UPERVISOR MURPHY: And we want to encumber the money this year.
COUNCIl_MAN SCHONDEBARE: I know, 'and if we don't encumber the money
we'll go into our excess fund.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: You can't use it.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Can't take it out of there?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: No, not until you're ~nto surplus.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Okay, so if you don't encumber the funds now
you're going to lose the funds and you've got $5,00'0 in next years.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Right, and it's not enough. We have to have a bill or
a proposal.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: We can take money out of some unallocated part
next year and put it in if we wanted to, so go along with this budget. Obviously
we can, we've been moving money around back and forth all day long.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Could we just say that we would vote to--leave out the
section or at a total cost of $12,600 for the Town of Southold if Riverhead does not
participate. Can we encumber the funds on that basis, if we leave out that--that's
your question~ right?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Yes.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Leave out that sentence and still encumber the funds?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Leave out what sentence?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: $12,600.'00.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: ---for the Town of Southold if Riverhead does not
partici'pate. We accept this proposa~ with a contingency. Can you accept a
proposal-.-can you still encumber on that basis, Bob?
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: Well, the letter of contract that you have has it both
ways. it says $12,.600 if you participate alone. If Riverhead particiPates the
amount is $19,00'0. It's already in the agreement.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Why do you want to eliminate this---
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Well, I might not go along with it if we do it by
ourselves, that's what I'm saying. I might not be willing to spend $12,600.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We haven't signed the agreement.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I know. I hope not.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We're authorizing us to.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: That's exactly what we're doing. If we go it 'alone
we'll pay $12.,600.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Nowv we have the money budgeted. We have $8,500 and
$5,'000 budgeted next year for this;
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Are we willing to go this:alone, that's the questiQn~.
I would vote for that, but if it'~ going tb be a problem i would go along with
pulling that out until-uif it'~ going to be a problem in getting Jay's vote or some-
body elses vote I would pull .it out. So we've got to decide would we be willing
to do this by ourselves if Riverhead doesn't go along. Are you willing to ~1o that?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: No.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Are you willing to do that?
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Yes.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: ! am.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Are you, Paul?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Yes.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: I guess I would too, so---
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Anyone who tells me he doesn't know what the
final--this is ~bing to cdst us, if'we go it alone, $12,,600, right? When we had
that meeting I asked the fellow from ERM, when he gets done with the final
product, how much is it going to cost the Town? He has no idea. Give me a
ball park. Are we talking a project of $,10,.0.00 or over $.1.00,000, and th~s fellow
still couldn't even give me that information.
DECEMBER 28, 1984
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Certainly, Jay~ he couldn't. First of all, Jay, we haven't
decided, through looking at the specifics, exactly how you want to go. Do you
want to make this a mandatory type of thing? Do you want to do it on education
alone? There's very many aspects of it 'that has to be and you need a professional
to analyze it,
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: And he has no idea where he's headed. He has no
idea where he's going.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Sure we do.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: He can't. He couldn't give me a price tag or $10,000
or $1100,000. That tells me a fellow who has no idea.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We've been working with the County for two years on this.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I know what you've been doin~ on it and I've been
following it'~along and that's why I expected him to come up with something that he
- could give me, but he couldn't give me anything.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Absolutely not.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: ! don't buy it.
Proxmires Golden Fleece Award. I don't buy it.'
I think this qualifies for Senator
! don't see it.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, do we have it seconded? (Yes.) Any other
questions? Joe? (No.) Anyone else? (No response.)
21.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Stoutenburgh,
Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy. Abstain~ Councilman Schondebare.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 22 is 'transfer of funds, General Fund Whole
Town 1984 Budget.
..... 22. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorize's the
following transfers within the General Fund Whole Town 1984 Budget:
· From: A1440..4 Engineer, Contractua~ ............ $ 400.00
A31-20.'.4 School Crossing Guards, Contract.--400.00
A3510.2 Control of Dogs, Equipment--~'-r ..... 500.00
A3660.1 School Attendance, Pets. Serv~ ..... 200.00
A5650.4 Off Street Parking, Contractual ---4, 500.00
A6410.4 Publicity, Contractual ............. 1,500.00
A6773.4 Programs for the Aging(Home Aide)3,000.00
A7110.2 Parks, Equipment ................. 1,000.00
A7520.4 Historical Properties, Contractual .... 200.00
A599 Unexpended Balance- .............. 8,400.'00
A9010.8 NYS Employee Retirement- ......... 1,100'.00
Total ............. $21,200.00
Into: A1010.4 Town Board, Contractual Exp.---$ 250.00
Al110.4 Justices, Contractual Exp..--- ........ -900.00
A1220.4 Supervisor, Contractual Exp.- ....... 200.00
A1355.4 Assessors, Contractual Exp~ ......... 700.00
A1410.4 Town Clerk, Contractual Exp.- ...... 100.00
A1620.4 Buildings, Contractual Exp.- ..... 10,500.00
A5182.4 Street Lighting, Contractual Exp.-5,400.00
A7230.4 Beaches, Contractual Exp~- ........ 1,200.00
A8090.4 Environmental Control, Contr. Exp. I.,950.00
Total ............. $21 ,' 200.00
~ 22.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: CouncilWoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
.Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
.... This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
23.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 23 is also a transfer of funds in General Fund
Whole Town.
Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
following transfers within the General Fund Whole Town 1984 Budget:
From: A1.490.1 Public Works, Personal Services ..... $ 260.00
A80~90.1 Environmental Control, Pers. Serv.- ..... 400.00
A8160.1 Disposal Area, Personal Services ...... 6,000.00
A8830.4 Shellfish, Contractual Expenses- ....... 1,800.'00
A81,60.4 Disposal Area, Contractual Expenses---2,500.00
A9901.9 Interfund Tran-sfer .................... 2,500.00
A599 Unexpended Balance- ................. 18,830.00
Total $33i290.00
Into:
A1010.4 Councilmen, Contractual Expenses .... ~8,700.00
Al110.4 Justices, ContraCtual Expenses .......... 500.00
A1355.4 Assessors, Contractual Expenses ..... 10,350.00
A1410.4 Town Clerk, Contractual Expenses- .... 1:, 900.00
A1620.4 Buildings, Contractual Expenses--r .... 1,800.00
A5182.4 Street Lighting, Contractual Exp~ ..... 4, 400.00
A7620.4 Adult Recreation, Contractual Exp.- ..... 200.00
A8090.4 Environmental Control, Contr. Exp~---2, 750. 00
A8540.4 Drainage, Contractual Expenses ....... 2,250.00
A7230.4 Beaches, Contractual Expenses .......... 410.00
A1490.4 Public Works, Contractual Expenses ...... 30.00
Total $33, 290.00
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
23.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 24 is a transfer of funds in General Fund Part
Town.
24.
Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was
RESOLVED' that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
followin9 transfers within the General Fund Part Town 1984 Budget:
From: B4020.4 Registrar, Contractual Expenses ..... ~ 1,500.'00
B9040.8 Workmen Compensation ................ 2,000.00
B9050.'8 Unemployment Insurance- .............. 1,000.00
B9058.8 GHI Dental ..................... ~ ...... 1,500.00
B.599 Unexpended Balance- 4,700.00
Total ................ $10, 700.00
Into: B3620.2 Buildit~g Inspector, Equipment- ...... $ 500.00
B3620.4 Building Inspector, Contr. Expenses --2,650.00
B80:10.4 Zoning, Contractual Expenses ......... 3,550.00
B8020.4 Planning, Contractual Expenses- ....... 4,000.00
Total ........ $10,700 .'00
'SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
24.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 25 is a transfer of funds for the Highway
Department
25.
Moved by CouncilWoman Cochran, seconded by'-Supervisor Murphy, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
follo~,ing transfer within the Highwa¥ Department 1984 Budget:
From: DA9030.'8- Social Security $1,000.00
into: DA5142.1 - Snow Removal, Personal Services $I, 000.00
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: That was because of ye, sterday's storm.
25.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman T.ownsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, that's the end of the prepared agenda. Is there
any Town Board member like to have any other comments?
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Just for the public; The issue you brought uP on the
police school and so forth, I think it's a good issue and has broad implications,
because if 'you look at the ones you are appointing, they generally tend to be the
children of active Policemen and that's not saying there's any active discrimination
process going against anyone else, but that just says that they're the ones~ that
are informed because they happen to be the children of Police Officers, so I think
that it's a good point, Paul, and I think what we should do is develop a procedure.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I just think it doesn't look good to continually
have this and I think it :really hurts the person who you have applying, a son
of somebody, because everyone is saying, "Oh, yeah, he knows somebody that
he can get in," and it's not fair to him by golly.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: So we'll bring it up as a matter for the Police
Committee.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: A policy where you advertise for this, right.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: From now on.
DECEMBER 28~ 1984
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Frank, if I just may, I would request that we
have a meeting of the Police Committee sometime next week, preferably 8:00 o'clock
in the morning, if you want to do that, at which time we'll discuss what Joe just
brought up and likewise bring up about the Bay Constable, let me get the Chief's
opinion, because I'd be receptive to another resolution later on if this doesn't pan
out in the Pollce Committee.
SUPERVISOR MEIRPHY: Because we also have to discuss rules and regulations.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I have a copy of that. I've gone over them.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, no problem.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: And I would just like to--when you have that
Police Committee thing, there is that concern of some people about a Review Board--
not Review Board--what would you call it? Police Grievance Board. If they would
feel this is an objectionable thing or necessary or what have you. I'd like an official
kind of feeling from the--
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: When you say Police Grievance, is:this the police
grieving or the.civilians grieving about the police?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Civilians.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Other towns have them and I think it's something,
if'even if 'it's never used, you've at least gone--r '
,SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Paul, I think this will ~start to be addressed by the rules
and regulations that we're looking to adopt.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Okay, it will be taken care of some place, but I
want it 'taken care of.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Jean?
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: i'd .just lille to wish every one a healthyand prosperous
New Year.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Is there anyone in the audience would like to make any
· comments? Ruth?
RUTH OLIVA, North Fork Environmental Council:' i'd just like to put the NFEC's
pitch in for another Bay Constable. i don't see how you can take the work load
of the Wetlands Applications off your shoulders and dump it on to the Trustees
without giving them some added help in enforcement. And I don't see the Policemen
that are joining the Police Force, then to be turned over to a Marine Unit.' If they
wanted to do that they would apply for the Bay Constable job and not just for a
Police job. And number two, ! can see in the wintertime, if Dzenkowski is off,
people are still, clamming, you could go up to Hallocks every day and you see a few
boats out. Who's checking on their permits? Do they have them or don't they have
them? We have laws, then we have to be willing to enforce them and have people
there to do it.' So, i think it's extremely important that we have another Bay
Constable. And second of all, I wish you a very healthy and prosperous New
Year. too. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Is there anyone else in the audience would like to address
the Town Board?
MR. DAVID SPOHN: I'd like to wish you all a Happy New Year.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: If not, I would like to wish the same, a very happy and
a prosperous and a healthy New Year for everybody, and look for a motion to
adjourn.-
Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman_Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that this Town Board meeting be and hereby is adjourned at 12:50 P.M.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
Ju it T. Terry J
Southold Town Clerk