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SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
October, 9, 1984
WORK SESSION
Present: Supervisor Francis J..Murphy, Councilman Joseph L. Townsend, Jr.,
Councilman Paul Stoutenburgh, Councilman James A.' Schondebare, Councilwoman
Jean W. Cochran:, Town Clerk Judith T. Terry. (10:15 A.M.)-Town Attorney
Robert' W. Tasker, Superintendent of Highways Raymond C. Dean.
9:30 A.M. - The Board. met witl5 Paul Flagg to discuss the work he has been
doing in Mill 'Creek to determine the cause for high coliform counts. There are
eight stations which are being monitored presently. Mr. Flagg estimates a cost
to the Town of approximately $4,'000 to $5,000 for a complete study, plus laboratory
costs, which would include weekly tests. Mr. Flagg was asked to submit a proposal
for his services for the Board's consideration.
10:05 'A.M. - Mr. John Halsey, President of Peconic Land Trust, Southampton, met
with the Board to offer their'assistance on the North Fork~ Mr. Halsey ,presented
background information concerning the Peconic Land Trust, incorporated as a non-
profit, tax-exempt charitable organization in':1983 to contribute to the.preservation
of rural landscapes through creative development planning which includes land
ac(]uisiti0n and limited development strategies.
10:45 A.M. - Community Development Director James McMahon presented the Board
with the proposed Community Development, Year 11 budget and placed ReSolution
No. 23 on the agenda concerning same, changing only one item from Land Acquisition
for Housing Program to: Housing Assistance Project.
11:30 A.M. - The Board discussed off a~]enda items: request for funds byI the Men's
Peconic Soccer League (see Resolution No. 20); request by the attorney of Reynold
Blum to utilize' the Draft Environmental Impact Statement from the Dalchet, et. al.
change of zone petition in relation to his petition for a change of zone [see Resolution
No. 25; Upcoming Utility Conference entitled "How to Decrease your Electric Bill by
50%" planned by County Executive Cohalan.
EXECUTIVE SESSION
12:15 P.M. - Discussion of possible purchase of property by the Town and
personnel problems.
12:50 P.M. - Recess for lunch.
2:00 P.M. - Work Session reconvened and the Board reviewed agenda and off-
agenda items and began the audit of bills.
3:.30 P.M. - Work Session recess to conduct four Wetland public hearings.
4:02 P.M..- Work Session reconvened and the Board completed the audit of bills.
4:30 P.M. - Work Session adjourned.
REGULAR MEETING
7:30 P.M.
A Re~lular Meeting of .the Southold Town Board was held on Tuesday,
October..1984 at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southoid, New York.
Supervisor Murphy opened the meeting at 7:30 P.M. with the Pledge of Allegiance
to the Flag.
Present:
Supervisor Francis J. Murphy
Councilman Joseph L. Townsend, Jr.
Councilman Paul Stoutenburgh
Councilman James A. Schondebare
Councilwoman Jean W. Cochran
Town Clerk Judith T. Terry
Town Attorney Robert W. Tasker
Absent: Justice Raymond W. Edwards
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I'd like a motion to approve the October 9th audit of
the bills that was done today.
Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that the following audited bills be and hereby are approved for payment:
General Fund Whole Town l~ills in the amount of $33,277..80, General Fund Part Town
bills in the amount of $26,841.71, Highway Department bills in the amoutn of
$54,248.97, Fishers Island Ferry District bills in the amount of $20,515.11; Federal
Revenue Sharing Fund bills in the amount of .$900.00, and Scavenger Wastewater
Treatment Plant bills in the amount of $] 2, 368.~70.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I'd like now a motion to approve the minutes of the last
regular meeting held on September 25th.
Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Townsend r it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the Regular Southold Town Board MeetinCJ held on
September 25, 1984: be and hereby are approved.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We'd like a motion now to set the next meeting date October
23rd, ~198~ 3:.00 P.M. · Southold Town Hall here.
Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was
RESOLVED that the next Re~lular Meeting of the Southold Town Board will be held
at 3:.00 P.M., Tuesday, October 23, 198~ at the Southold .Town Hal!, Main Road,
Southold, New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: CouncilWoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
I. REPORTS.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Moving on to the first item, Number I on t~he agenda, the
Reports. I'd like to state in the beginning these reports are on file in the Town
Clerk's Office for anyone who wants to see them and to read them. Some of them
are very interesting. It's a report of various departments in the Town to the Town
Board~ each month.
1. Auditor's Report from the Comptroller on the annual records that was
finished up this spring from 1983.
2. Suffolk County Solar Energy Commission report.
3. Nutrition Program - August and September 1984'.
4. Home Aide Program Budget Report - September .198~.
5. Grant Programs Report - September .1984:.
6. Scavenger Waste Treatment Plant Report - September 1984:. ¥:
7. Town Clerk's monthly report - September :1984.
8. Highway Fund monthly report - September 1984.
9. Planning Associates- Szepatowski Associates, Inc. - September 1984:.
Report of work that they did helping the Planning Board and various departments
in the Town.
10. Building Department's monthly report - September 1984.
11. Town Trustees monthly report - September ~1984..
12. Supervisor's monthly budget report - September 1984. This is the one
that shows how the Town is staying within the budget restraints that were put on
by the Town Board last year.
13. North Fork Animal Welfare League~ Inc. - September .1984 report.
14. Fishers Island Ferry District Budget report- September I984.
15. Police Department's monthly report - September 1984.
16. Councilmen's reports. I will ask Councilman Schondebare on my right.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: There was a meeting of the Code Committee with the
regard to the area farm stands. All the farmers, hopefully, who have farm stands
were invited to attend. We managed to get a list of those we could identify. A
proposed ordinance with regards to the farm stands was sent to everyone ~and we
had a meeting of about nineteen people showed up fOr the hearing. It last a coupleI~.~!
of hours. We got their input with regards to what they felt as.~to the law and now
it's up to us to go back. We'll have another Code Committee meeting shortly at which
time we'll take the input they gave us and hopefully start redrafting it and put other
ideas into a farm law. Hopefully it 'will'be one that will please everybody~ but that's
impossible, so--...
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Good luck. Anything else, Jay?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: That's it.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Joe?
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: As you know,' Frank, there was a--we had a lot of
things going on this 'week--the last two weeks. Specifically the Farmland :Preservation
Committee started going over the parcels that had been submitted for their consider-
ation. Going over surveys and sketch plans of the land the various applicants want
to sell the Committee. I think.Frank will fill 'you in on the East End Supervisors'
Meeting where we discussed various additional methods of reducing volume in the
landfill. ! am a member of the Code Committee which' met with Jay. Also we had a
meeting on Housing to try to formulate some ideas on the w~ay we want to handle
the housing problem in Southold Town. We also had a meeting on the proposed Master
Plan which was attended by the Planning Board and the Town Board and RPPW and ~
also' the Zoning Board of Appeals. Some members of the public came to that. So w<?~
had quite a bit going on. That's all I have. ~ ~
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Paul~?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: On the 24th and 25th of last month Jim'McMahon and
myself went to Albany for a meeting on the Coastal Management Program and I just.
thought I'd like to read to you basically what a Coastal Zone Management or a Local
Waterfront Revitalization Program is. Something that we hoping to get a grant for
that will help us in utilizing our waterfront to better advantage. The Coastal Zone
Management Program offers municipalities in the coastal area a unique opportunity to
adopt an ongoing State program. In other words the State has their own Waterfront
program, including the Federal government has one alsov-to specific local needs and
objectives by preparing and implementing a Local Waterfront Revitalization Program.
A Local Waterfront Revitalization Program is a comprehensive realistic proglram for
the beneficial use, revitalization and protection of the community"s water resourceS.
What it does is it sets up a group who will then determine goals for the Town and
hopefully some of the goals would be one of the things we'~e very concerned about,
is for instance this latest closing of Mill Creek and Mattituck Creek and sources of
pollution that are entering into these creeks. We feel a lot of this is coming from
road runoff and this is something the Town wants to have and long overdue~-a study
of the drainage of the waters in this Town because to take the waters from our roads
and dump them into our creek is spoiling our nest, so to speak, and we hope through
this grant program there will be some funds available for this kind of thing. So we
went up and found out how it function and hopefully we have good news, we thi~k
we have the grant practically in our hands. I don't think we've received it as yet,
have we, Frank?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: No, Paul.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: But I think we've given the green ,light. We're
the only Town that has not gotten this grant in all of Suffolk COunty, so we're
surely due for it and let's hope we will'have it. I also attending the meetings
that were mentioned and I also attended a Water Advisory Committee meetin9 and
I'd just like to report that's a pretty active group of people. This is a citizen's
group who are advising the Town Board on the problems of--usually we think of it
as water underneath us that is drinking water and one of the programs that came
up was a developer who was putting a reverse osmosis plant in Mattituck, to give
you an idea of the kind of things these people tackle, and a reverse osmosis is
that we have salt water or nitrates or Some problem in our water and we can use
this machine or gadget, so to speak, and get clear water out of it. The problem
is we have bad water that comes from it, water that has not been cleansed and we
have to dump this somewheres and they were going to dump it into our creek, and
the Water Advisory Committee said they didn't think that was a wise idea, 'that the
small amount of polutant, there was only about two to four hundred gallons of water
being dumped into the creek--they would prefer to have it put into the Bay, so
they will'make a recommendation to the Town, to the Planning Department, so that
this will take place and hopefully aiming in the right direction. It's iust a small
thing that they're doing, but I thought it would be worthy of letting the people
know that you have an on-going citizen group representing you and they're out
there in your behalf. That's about all, Frank.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, Paul. Jean?
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Being last on the line they leave very little for me
to report on.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We'll change, we'll start down that way next time.
COUNCILWOMAN ~COCHRAN: That would be nice for a change. In addition to
attending the meeting on the Master Plan and the Housing Committee I was also
on the firing line with Jay at the Code Committee when we did have people in to
discuss the farm stand code. As Jay stressed, I would just like to agree with
him. The final determination will not please everyone but we certainly will work
to come up with something that will please the majority. Aside from that, that's
it,~ Frank.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, Jean. The Supervisor's Report - as you can
tell the Town has been very busy. Quite a bit has gone on. A couple of announce-
ments I'd like to make for the general public~ I know they're concerned. One is the
serious drainage problem up by Porky's Restaurant on the North Road-wthe .County
Road and Route 25 meet. We're told that a dontract will' be let in December. Hope-
fully if the property taking can be completed by that time and hopefully by next
summer this problem will be' eliminated in the Town. Another one is that a controversy
that has affected a lot of people and has gotten very heated and very emotional. I'm
glad ! think we're finally coming to a very good and sensible solution. Mr. Mills
informed me that they are going to withdraw their application for the Moores Woods
property, much to the happiness of the people who were opposed going in there
with commercial development and have found another parcel right over the Greenport
line, right in the Town of Southold, on Moores Lane. It seems like an ideal site.
The Planning Board, the ZBA, ~our Master Planner and our Consultant are now work-
ing with the owners of this property to come up with a plan which will eventually
they'll be coming before the Town Board with some zone changes. I'd like to announce--
you can see out in the hall voter registration is 'going on until 8 o'clock tonight. It
will go on next Saturday from 2:00 to 9 o'clock in Town Hall. If anybody wants to
vote in the next General Election and is not registered, this will be the last time to
do it here and the service is offered by Suffolk County and any of your friends,
family or anything, please take advantage and make sure you're registered.
Joe mentioned the East End Supervisors, what we're trying to do is get the
five East End Towns to get together to try to reduce the amount of volume that
we're burying in our landfills and to come up with a sour~ce of material, either
glass, cans, paper, cardboard, whatever we could get everybody to agree to pull
out of their stream and to find a market for it. Each town is too small to do it
on their 'own, but with the five towns we have quite a bit of clout and it's a good
way to go.
Ii. PUBLIC NOTICES.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Moving on to the second item on the agenda, Public Notices.
1. The first one is :Army Corps of Engineers, it's Suffolk County Department
of Public Works for a 10 years maintenance, beach nourishment, Dramers Cove,
Great Peconic Bay in Aquebogue. Comments by October 2,Sth.
2. Notice to Shellfish Harvesters that the Arshamomaque and'Mattituck Inlet .
are closed to clamming until additional--we can ihopefully get this resolved and have
additional tests made.
3. New York State Department of Environmental Conservation hearing on Thomas
Samuels,..c/o J. H. Rambo, inc., application to create a two lot residential subdivision
and a hearing is scheduled for 10:30 A.M. on October 25th at Southold Town Hall.
4. Long Island Lighting Company, Notice to all street and highway lightin,q
customers, an order granted by the Public Service Commission granting 9.5% general
increase, effective September 15t. Good news for everybody.
5. New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, notice of a
public hearing on the Department's proposal to adopt revised Part 701 and 702 of
Title 6 of the Official Compilation of Codes, Rules and Regulations of the State of
N~w York. The public is invited to submit proposals for possible reclassification
of water bodies. Written comments by November 30th.
6. Corps of Engineer§ notice of an application by Peter Ne¥1and to maintenace
dredge in Gardiners Bay Estates~ East Marion~ Written comments by October 28th.
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7. Army Corps of Engineers notice of an application by Stanley Chase to
construct three T-shaped pier assemblies on three separate lots, Mattituck Creek.
Written comments by October 23rd.
8. Southold Town Plannin9 Board notice of the completion of the Draft
Environmental Impact Statement by Nicholas Schick on a major subdivision in
the cluster, concept at Orient. Written comments by November 10th.
All of these public notices are posted on the Town Clerk's Bulletin Board and
are available for anyone who is concerned.
Iil. COMMUNICATIONS.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Moving on to the order of business on the agenda,
Communications.
1. The first one is very good news to a lot of people in Town, it's concern-
ing the speed limit on Moore's Lane in' Cutchogue and to tie the whole thing in to
reduce this. We've had some real serious accidents in there. We've had requests
from people and now we've got the official notification that this is coming about.
2. Letter from the New York State DEC and it's a report on the initial efforts
of the Department to identify the needs of our marine resource management procjrams
and the benefits users can ~xpect if these needs are met. This report, again, is on
file with the Town Clerk.
3. From Cablevision. telling us they are proceeding on their rebuild quite
rapidly. There's going to be an interruption of service in the Captain Kidd Estates
and the surrounding areas for a period of about two weeks from Tuesday_October
2nd between $ A.M. and 5 P.M. These people are being notified also by their
television program, Channel 6.
4. Long Island State Park & Recreation Commission announcing New York
State Senior Games to be held on Long Island on Saturday, October 20th and
Sunday, October 21st. Anyone interested--we passed this to the Senior Citizen
Clubs~ Anyone interested further it's available in the Town Clerk's Office.
5.' Letter from Legislator Patrick Neaney over on the South Shore, asking
for support on the Public Works Commission to ask them to put in their budget
the authority to proceed with the purchase of a County dredge again. This had
been sold several ago and many people feel this was a mistake, especially oi~ the
East End we feel that.
6. From Eastern Long Island Hospital' thanking the Town Board for their
,1984 Emergency Medical Week Proclamation and our cooperation with them.
7. This is one very important and one that Councilman Paul Stoutenburgh
has been trying to push' and has spoken to Harold Berger, Regional Director of
DEC about starting and it's a S.T.O,.P. Program - Stop throwing out pollutants.
It's the start of trying to get a plan on What would be done in each 'Town in our
landfill_ We'd probably have to build some kind of small holding building ~.here
a safe Place for anyone who has chemicals that are outdated, don't know what to
do with it,~ please don't throw them in the water, bring them to the landfill and
we'll take care of them properly.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH.~ .Just a follow-up on that. We're going to have
a meeting here on October 11th at 10 o'clock in the morning with 'the DEC and
basically it's going to be one for the home participant. This is the person who
has two or three old cans of DDT or some pesticide in their garage and they have
enough common sense to not throw it in our Town Dump, but they don't know-what
to do with it, and I think we're going to have a program right here in the Town
where we'll have a day set aside where you can bring all this material andl it will
be taken care of the DEC and you, can be assured it 'will be taken care of in the
proper way. Later on we're going to have, as Frank has suggested, a larger
program, an on-going program, but that's going to take.time, but for the interim
we're going to have this emergency one and we're going to have a meeting here
right on Thursday at 10 O'clock .and anyone who Would like to be invited, we'd
be glad to have. you.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, Paul. We have four public hearings .scheduled
for tonight. It's not time yet so we'll move on to Item V, Resolutions.
V. RESOLUTIONS.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY:
ment Year 9 Program.
The first resolution is to amend the Community DevelOp-
Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southolcl hereby authorizes the
following amendments to the Community Development Year 9 Program, as follows,
to wit:
Project
Fishers Island
Avenue B. Drainage
Handicapped Ramp
American Legion
Current New
Budget Increase Decrease Budget
$3,361.90 -0- $3,361.90 -0-
$8,000.00 $3,361.90 -0- $11,361.90
OCTOBER 9, 1984
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: ~Any cluestion~n~it? (No response.)
1.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: CouncilWoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 2 we're going to hold. (Amendment to Community
Development Year. 9 Program: Flint Street Housing Rehabilitation & Fleet Street Sewer
Extension.) Number 3 is to engage the service of H2M to analyze our scavenger
waste lagoon.
Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilwomen Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby engages the
· services of Holzmacher, McLendon & Murrell, P.C. to analyze quarterly samplings
of the scavenger waste lagoon at the .Cutchogue Scavenger Waste Site, at a cost
to the Town of $185.'00 per quarter, all in .accordance with their proposal dated
September 21, 1984..
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
3.~Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: CouncilWoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend· Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 4 is the decision on the Wetlands Application of
the Harbor Lights Property Associaiion.
Moved by Councilman Stoutenburghj seconded by CouncilWoman Cochran,
WHEREAS, Harbor Lights Property Association applied to the Southoid Town Board
for a permit under the provisions of the Wetland Ordinance of the Town of Southold,
application dated June 27, 1984, and
WHEREAS, said application was referred to the Southold Town Trustees and Southold
Town Conservation AdvisOry Council for their findings and recommendations, and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held by'the Town Board with respect to said applica-
tion on the 28th day of August, 1984~, recessed and reconvened on 'the 11th day of
September, 1984,, at which times all interested persons were given an opportunity to
be heard, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that Harbor Lights Property Association be-Granted permission under the
provisions of the Wetland Ordinance of the Town of Southold to dredge the canal at
Harbor Lights Beach, Harbor Lights Cove Inlet, and use the resultant spoil as beach
nourishment above mean high water. This permit 'shall expire on September 25, 1985
if work has not~.commenced by said date; there shall be two inspections required; and
the Town Clerk shall be notified when the project is completed.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
4.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 5 is to allow the attendance at a conference on
housing.
Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman StoutenbUrgh, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes all
Town Board Members, Plannin9 Board member William F. Mulle, and Community
Development Director James C. McMahon to attend the Housin9 In. Suff01k: Status
and Needs Conference to be held on Tuesday, October 30, 1984:, and Housin9 for
Suffolk's Elderly Conference to be held on TYhursday, November-~7-T~84, both at
the Suffolk County Legislative Building, Hauppauge, New York, and the actual
and necessary expenses for travel and registration shall be a legal charge against
the Town of Southold.
SIJPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I notice one of the speakers is Dave Emilita, our
Town Planner.
$.~-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Coch'ran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 6 is to accept the resignation of a member of the
Planning Board.
Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Townsend, ir'was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts, with
regret, the resiqnation of James M. Wall, member of the Southold ~own Plannin9
Board· effective October 15, ,1984.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY:
6.-Vote of the Town Board:
Any questions? (No response.)
Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: At this time I would like to make a public announcement
that the Town Board will be asking for resumes, anybody who is interested in
servin9 on the Plannin9 Board there is'a vacancy of Mr. Wall's term. Mr., Wall
did come from Fishers Island. It is not necessary that the new member be appointed
from Fishers Island so you can apply. We'll take resumes from anyone interested up
to November 1st and the Planning Board and the Town Board will'make a decision at
our November 8th Town Board meeting. This will be advertised in the papers also
and resumes are to be sent in to the Town Clerk.
Moving on to Resolution No. 7, it's a renewal of a house trailer permit.
7. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that the application of Ange and Barbara Boursiquot for ~enewal of
their single family house trailer' permit, which expires on November 4, 1984, for
trailer located at private road off of the north side of Main Road, Mattituck, New
York, be and hereby is 9ranted for a six (6) month period.
7.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 8 is another trailer permii 'renewal.
8. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that the application of George A. McCarthy for renewal of his single
family house trailer permit, which expires on November 4, .1984., for trailer located
on private road, off south side of Main Road, Laurel, New York, be and hereby is
9ranted for a six (6) month period.
SIJPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
8.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochranr Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 9 is park and playground monies.
Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Councilman Townsend w it 'was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes that
the $10,000.00 received from Constantine GeorgioPoulos, in lieu of park and play-
9round in connection with his major subdivision, be placed in the Park Land Money
Maker Account to hold in reserve.
10.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: This money is~-the Planning Board felt the subdivision is
too small, the parcel would be too small, would not be worth acquiring a very tiny
parcel of land in the subdivision, so in' lieu of making them build a recreaIion
facility on their property, we're taking the funds which will' be put into a Reserve
Account. There is another $10,000.00 in there already, and when the time comes
to do a major park in the Town this money will be used for that purpose. Any
other questions? (No response.)
9.~Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochranw Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SIJPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 10 is to request a traffic survey.
Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby requests the
New York State Department of Transportation to conduct a traffic survey of the
N.Y.S. Route 25 and Pequash Avenue intersection, Cutchogue, New York.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
10.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Scho~ndebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsendt Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I'd like to have a motion at this time, it's 8 o'clock,
recess to have the .scheduled public hearings.
Moved by Councilman Stoul~enburgh, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that a recess be called at this time, 8:00 P.M., for the purpose of hold-
ing the following public hearings:
8:00 P.M. - Petition of Harold Reese and Frederick Reese for relief~from the
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Bulk requirements of aw No. 11 - .1983.
8:05 P.M. - Appl for a Soil Removal
Permit.
8:10 P.M. - Petition of Daniel A. Kaelin l~or a Change of Zone at Cutchogue.
8:15 P.M. - Proposed Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in relation to permits
and licenses for vehicles transporting refuse into the town refuse disposal areas
and penalties for offenses."
10.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
Meeting reconvened at- 9:45 P.M.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We moved back to the regular meeting and Resolution No.
11.
11.
Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran,
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Southold wishes to address the need
for affordable housing in'the Town of Southold, and
WHEREAS, the Town Board wishes to establish a Housing Advisory Committee for
the purpose of advisi'ng the Town Town Board as to appropriate sites for affordable
housing, to assist the Board in investigating financing for same, iocaing and
identifying the needs to be served, and, cost efficiency of a Town sponsored
program, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that a Housing Advisory Committee be formed consistinq of twelve (12)
members to evaluate affordable housing needs and make recommendations and reports
to the Town Board, and be it further
RESOLVED that four (4) members 'of the Housing Advisory Committee shall serve
for a term of three (3) years; ~four (4] members shall serve for a term of two (2)
years; and four (4) members shall serve for a term of one (1) year, and be it
further
RESOLVED that the Town Clerk. give public notice that resumes are sought for
members of said Housing Advisory Committee, to be received by November 1, :198~,
and the Town Board shall appoint members to the Committee as soon thereafter as
practical.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Do we put in'that one that we will also appoint
the chairman of the Committee?
TOWN CLERK TERRY: When you make the appointments you can do that.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: No.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: That's not what he's saying, isn't it? You're
saying, Jay, that you want to be the appointment person?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Well, we are. I assume we are. We've appointed
everybody chairman. They come back with a recommendation and then the final
determinatio is ours. My question is'do we spell it out in the resolution that the
final determination is ours?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: If you want to put it in, go ahead. Doesn't hurt.
TOWN ATTORNEY .TASKER: i think, I'm not sure, I'd have to check the Code,
but I think the Code which provides for the appointment, the creation of these
committees provides that the Town Board shall appoint the members and the Town
Board shall also appoint the Chairman.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Okay. If we check the Code and find out it's not
that way then we'll amend it at the next meeting, that's all. (Town Clerk note:
Chapter 7, Section 7-2 of the Code: "The Town Board shall determine the number
of members to such committees, appoint the members thereto and designate the
chairman thereof.")
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions on this? (No response.)
1.1.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 12 we're going to hold. (Execute an agreement
between the Suffolk County Office for the Aging and the Town of Southoid for
the Senior Adult Care Program.) Number 13 is to enter into an agreement with
LILCO.
13.
Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorize~ and
directs Supervisor Francis J. Murphy to execute an agre_ement between the
13.
of Southold and Lon9 Island Lightin9 Company to extend the terms and conditions
of the Third Party Attachment Agreement concernin9 street lightin9 facilities attach-
ments to utility poles, to include the Town's connection of those facilities to LILCO's
· secondary mains.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: This is being done. We have a licensed electrician working
in the Town Highway Department or the Department of Public Works now, and we do
have permission to do our own light hook-ups and disconnects. It should save the
Town quite a bit of time and expense. Any ~questions? (No response.)
~Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy~
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 14 concerns the rebuild of roadways and infra-
structures.
14.
Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Councilman Schondebare,
WHEREAS, those of us in 9overnment are painfully aware of the deteriorating
conditiOn of the roadways and infrastructure in Suffolk and Nassau Counties, and-.
WHEREAS, the Governor of the State of New York and the leaders ofl both houses
of the State Legislature, recognizing this problem, have pledged the funds necessary
to repair and rebuild said roadways and infrastructure, and
WHEREAS, for some reason the State of. New York has not commenced awarding'
contracts for this necessary work causing a severe and potentially dangerous
situation for all residents of Suffolk and Nassau Counties, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that we, the members of the Town Board of the Town of'Southold, do
hereby 9o on record requestin9 that Governor Cuomo and both houses of the State
Legislature move as expeditiously as possible in awardin9 the appropriate contracts
so that work can begin on these most worthwhile projects.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions on this? (No response.)
14.~-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: COuncilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
.Councilman Stoutenburgl~, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
'15.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY~ Number 15 is to authorize' emergency repairs to the
Fishers Island Ferry Dis[rict.
Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilman Schondebare,
WHEREAS a recent inspection of the starboard main engine on MV Munnatawket
reveal the presence of a crack in the No. 2 piston on the inboard bank, and
WHEREAS, the engine has approximately 11,500 Operating hours and will be due
for overhaul in approximately 12;~999 operating hours, and
WHEREAS, the vessel will shortly be operating under winter weather conditions
when maximum reliability of the engines is required for safety purposes, and
WHEREAS, Thames Shipyard and Repair-Co. of New London, Connecticut is
available to rebuild said engine on a timely and expeditious basis at an estimated
cost of .$9,000.00, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town BOard of the Town of Sout..hold hereby concurs With the
Board of Commissioners of the Fishers Island Ferry District in its declaration of
required emergenc¥ repairs in the form of a complete engine overhaul for the star-
board main engine on MV Munnatawket to be accomplished by Thames Shipyard and
Repair Co. of New London, Connecticut, at an estimated cost of $9,000. 00.
15.~Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: CoUncilWoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 16 is to authorize a bus trip.
16. Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorize`s the
Southold Senior Citizens Club, Inc. to engage two buses, at a cost of $470.~00,
the remainder of their allotment, to transport their group to Montauk on November
7, .1984.
16.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MUPRHY: Number 17 is to proclaim October 21st as CROP WALK Day.
17.
Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Councilman Schondebare,
WHEREAS, Southold Town has a tradition of farming, feeding the people of Long
Island and the East Coast, - providing world-famous Long Island potatoes, Peconic
Bay scallops and sea food, and abundant fruits and vegetables, and...
WHEREAS, part.of that tradition has always been concerned for the poor and ..
hungry, and...
OCTOBER 9, 1984
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WHEREAS, there is so much hunger~.:~irL!~th~ World often caused by the inability of
small farmers to get supplies, seed, technical expertise and water, and...
WHEREAS, CROP is an inter-religious organization geared to helping people over-
seas produce more and better qualitY food, and secure clean drinking water, and...
WHEREAS, .CROP delivers 90¢ of every dollar to programs to help people better feed
themselves, and...
WHEREAS, the communities of Mattituck and Cutchogue, sparked by the MattitUck-
Cutchogue Clergy Association have organized to have a 10 Kilometer CROP WALK
on Sunday, October 21, 198~ to raise money for the CROP organization, as a symbol
of the fact that many people have to walk that much each day to get water, and...
WHEREAS, the CROP WALK seeks to secure Sponsors for each walker who will agree
to contribute for each kilometer walked, now, therefore, be it...
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby declares Sunday,
October 21', 1984. to be CROP WALK DAY in the Town,of Southold, and that everyone
be encouraged to consider this opportunity to help relieve world hunger.
17.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 18 is a transfer of funds for Whole Town.
18. Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by CouncilWoman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that ;the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
following transfer within~the General Fund Whole Town '.1'.98tF Budget:
From: A1'990 - Contingent--7 ........................ :---~$,4,205.00
Into: A'1910- Insurance- ............................... r$3,68'3'.05
A3310 - Traffic Control ........................... $ 500.00
A3540.'4- Civil Defense, Contractual .............. ~ 21.95
18.~Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: CouncilWoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 19 is 'to transfer funds in Part Town.
19.
Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh:
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
followin9 transfer within General Fund Part Town :1984: Budget:
From: A599- Unexpended Balance .......... $8,000.00
Into: B8020.4- Planning, Contractuab $8,000.00
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: From A to B?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: From General Fund.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: What is A599, what line is that?
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: Isn't that a full Town? Town-wide item?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: A is, yes.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: You can't transfer that into B.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: Yes, that is'interesting. That is exactly what the
Accounting Department has down here.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I Would say it should be a B. I would say that A is a
mistake. -'
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Why don't we hold it.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I would say we should correct it to B.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: Yes, but the question is, do you have it?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Yes, there's the money there.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: In the Part Town?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Yes.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Why don't we check it out.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Yes, put it on hold.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I .would put it as B and if there's a mistake we'll just
rescind it the next meeting. I'm sure A is a mistake.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: It's unexpended balance.
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OCTOBER 9, ,1984
WHEREAS, there is so much hunger in the world often caused by the inability of
small farmers to get supplies, seed, technical expertise and water, and...
WHEREAS, CROP is an inter-religious organization geared to helping people over-
seas produce more and better quality food, and secure clean drinking water, and...
WHEREAS, CROP delivers 90¢ of every dollar to programs to help people better feed
themselves, and...
WHEREAS, the communities of Mattituck and Cutchogue-, sparked by
Cutchogue Clergy Association have organized to have a 10 Kilometer
on Sunday, October 21, 198t~ to raise money for the CROP organiz
of the fact that many people have to walk that much each day
WHEREAS, the CROP WALK seeks to secure Sponsors for each
to contribute for each kilometer walked, now, therefore, be it.
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold
October 21, 1984, to be CROP WALK DAY in the Town of So
be encouraged to consider this opportunitY to hel
17.~Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran
Councilman StOutenburgh, Councilman Townsend,
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 18 is a transfer
~e MattitUck-
~ WALK
ont as a symbol
water, and...
who will agree
declares Sunday,
and that everyonI~
er.
Iman Schondebare,
or Murphy.
for Whole Town.
18. Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Co
RESOLVED that ~the Town Board of the.Town o'
followin9 transfer within the General. I
From: A1:990 -
Into: A1910- lnsurance--r .........
A3310- Traffic Control ......
A35~40.4- Civil Defense, C
18.=Vo~e of.the Town Board: Ayes: Cou
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilmar
This resolution was declared duly
SUPERVISOR MURPHY:
Cochran, it was
~thold hereby authorizes the
ToWn :10814; Budget:
2os. oo
68'3. o5
500..00
Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Supervisor Murphy.
Number is :to transfer funds in Part Town.
19. Moved by Councilman $
RESOLVED that the Town Bo
.following ' trans fer
From: A599 -
Into: B8020.4 -
TOWN ATTORNEY
h:
of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
Fund Part Town :1984 Budget:
Balance--7 ..................... $8,000.00
.nning, Contractual- .................. $8,000.00
From A to B?
COUNCILMAN STO
From General Fund.
C
TOWN ATTOI
HRAN: What is'A:599, what line is that?
TASKER: Isn't that a full Town? Town-wide item?
SUPERVIS MURPHY: A is, yes.
TOWN :~TORNEY TASKER: You can't transfer that into B.
/
TOW~I~CLERK TERRY: Yes, that is interesting. That is exactly what the
A~,c~unting Department has down here.
~J_ PERVISOR MURPHY: I Would say it should be a B. I would say that A is a
//mistake.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Why don't we hold it.'
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I Would say we should, correct it to B.
./ TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: Yes, but the question isj do you have it?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Yes, there's the money there.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: In the Part Town?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Yes.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Why don't we check it out.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Yes, put it on hold.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I .Would put it 'as B and if there's a mistake we'll just
rescind it the next meeting. I'm sure A is a mistake.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: It's unexpended balance.
OCTOBER 9, 1984
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: What ,:s th~,~n'expended balance. What's it from?
What i,s A599, what line is that?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We can look it up on the Supervis0r's Rep(;rt if you like.
Why don't we hold it and go on with other resolutions. Number 20 is the Men's
Peconic Soccer League.
20. Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby allocates $100.00
to the Men's Peconic Soccer League for the purchase of equipment for the 1984
season.
20.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: CouncilWoman Cochran, councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 21 is a resolution to form a Self-Evaluation
Committee.
21.
Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizer and
directs the Town Clerk to advertise for resumes for a Southold Town Board Committee
to do a Self Evaluation of the Town of Southold's Handicap Program.
COUNCIl_MAN SCHONDEBARE: This is the one we have-to create with the Federal
guidelines and hopefully the people who have an interest in the handicapped will be
coming forward to serve on this particular Committee.
21.~-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY': Number 22 is to authorize a bond.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Let's hold this.
'SUPERVISOR MURPHY: What do you want to hold?
. COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Well, Frank, I iust don't like to going to bonds on
this thing. I'd rather just put it in the budget.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Another three months or four months before the Police
Department will' be computerize~l. It's gettin9 very expensive and I think we're
wrong in holding it up, Jay.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Why don't we make a motion to do this and then
you can vote against it.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I lust say if you're going to spend $19,500 you
should put it in the budget. It's not like a 2 million dollar scavenger waste plant.
COUNCILMAN
either, Jay.
COUNCILMAN
STOUTEN BURGH:
SCHONDEBARE:
Like $1,500 a day fine. That's not very good
What fines ?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: A fine for not, comply~
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: No, I said I can see having a bond for a scavenger
waste plant to 2 million dollars. I realize. that you do that, but the $19,500 ! don't
see why you're going to bonds again.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Well, the two department heads, the Police Chief and the
Highway Superintendent did not want to take their $8,:000 or $9,000 for equipment
out of this year's budget and rather than lease it was suggested that they sell
the bond anticipation note for three years and take it out of the three years budgets.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: As you recall, we had a discussion, iWe had a difference
of opinion on this before at the Budget discussion we had a disagreement about this,
so that's why Jay's bringing up the point now, because we hadn't resolved that
issue.
COUNCILMAN SC.HONDEBARE: Yes, we left that open. We never did resolve it.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Well', we directed Mr. Tasker to prepare.this at this last
meeting. If you didn't want to do it, why did we direct him to prepare it?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I don't remember directing him to prepare it.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We can put in the Budget and pay it off in one year, pay
it off the next year. This way they'll be able to buy it right now and put the
$9,000 in each department's budget next year to pay it off. You could do it that
way. This way we'll provide the funds right now.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: In other wordsr it's like renting it and paying
for it---
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Leasing the equipment for a year at much less half the
interest rate, a third the interest rate. Instead of paying 15 - 16 percent, we'll
be borrowing at about 6 or 7 percent.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: They do want to get started.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: We know they do want to get started and I'm all
for it and I wholeheartedly support the project, I just can't see doing the bond.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH:
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE:
layed out.
Okay, how about this idea, is it all right?
No, I just want it in the Budget, the $19,500
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Lay it out in the Budget, Jay. This way they could
order the stuff right now. They could order it, they COuld pay for it and then
when--we could pay the bond off at any time after the first of the year we want.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Yesr but we're not going to do that.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: You could do it any time you want.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: We're not going to do that and you know that and
I know that. No, i'm against it.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: What are the costs around the bond, floating it, is
there any costs other than what you've just done, Bob? With the preparation of
this resolution?
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: Yes.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: What are the costs?
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: What did it cost?
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: What will it cost?
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: I don't know, I haven't got the bill yet.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: What do you think it will cost?
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: Any where from $250 to $500.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: And it's included in the cost of the bond, am I not correct?
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: Oh, sure.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: You have already put that in, that's why the bond is more
than $18,000 and something which is'the cost of the equipment.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: We added a little over $500.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Which the interest is a little additional. Actually you
probably could order it next month and you'd have it in two months.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Not if you don't have the money.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: You'd have to encumber the money from the 1984 Budget.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: You have to have the money, Joe.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: The point is you've got to have the funds available
before you commit yourself to buying something. If you don't have the funds
available now then you can't order it.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND:. Are we in surplus?
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: No, you're not in surplus.
22.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I'm not sur~'i~¥~?~d~[ract date in the State Contract
for the State Bid--and as you realize, Joe, it's probably half the price of what
we would pay otherwise.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Well, I agree with Jay in principle on this thing. I
think that bonding items under $20,000 is not the way to go because of the cost
of writing the bond and also---
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We directed Mr. Tasker last meeting to do it.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: We may well have done it but I can't say I didn't, 'but
I don't recall it, because I can remember it wasn't resolved in my mind. Do you
recall it?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I recall that we did, yes.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I don't recall doing it.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: I recall that I was asked to do it.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Excepting Jay and I expressed that we felt that
it belong in the Budget, but at this point---
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: I think I brought it up. Well, I'll go along with it,
only because the thing with the Town--unless you want to hold it off two weeks
until we find out whether the State list of materials is still going to be in effect.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: How long does that list last?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I have no idea if 'it'S this year ending or if it's next
June or when. I have no idea. ! would suggest we---
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: It's a good price on the equipment. I'II put it to a
motion if they want to put it to a motion.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I'd like someone to make the motion.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I'II make the motion.
Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran,
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: i'11 second it so you can discuss it.~
BOND RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, NEW
YORK, ADOPTED OCTOBER 9, 1984, AUTHORIZING THE
ACQUISITION OF COMPUTER HARDWARE FOR VARIOUS
TOWN DEPARTMENTS, STATING THE ESTIMATED
MAXIMUM COST THEREOF IS $195.00, APPROPRIATING
SAID AMOUNT THEREFOR, AND AUTHORIZING THE
ISSUAh~CE OF $19,500 SERIAL BONDS OF SAID TOWN
TO FINANCE SAID APPROPRIATION.
THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD, IN THE COUNTY OF
SUFFOLK, NEW YORK, HEREBY RESOLVES (by the favorable vote of not
less than two-thirds of all the members of said Town Board) AS
FOLLOWS:
Suffolk,
Section 1. The Town of Southold,
New York (herein called "Town"),
in the County of
is hereby authorized to
acquire computer hardware for various Town departments. The
estimated maximum cos% of said class of objects or purposes,
including preliminary costs and costs incidental thereto and the
OCTOBER 9, 1984
financing thereof, is $19,5',00 and said amount is hereby
appropriated therefor. The plan of financing includes the
issuance of $19,500 serial bonds of the Town to finance said
appropriation, and the levy and collection of taxes on all the
taxable real property in the Town to pay the principal of said
bonds and the interest thereon as the same shall become due and
payable.
Section 2. Serial bonds of the Town in the principal
amount of $19~ 00, are hereby authorized to be issued pursuant to
the provisions of the Local Finance Law, constituting Chapter 33-
a of the Consolidated Laws of the State of New York (herein
called "Law") to finance said appropriation.
Section 3. The following additional matters are hereby
determined and declared:
(a) The period of probable usefulness of said 6~ss of
objec=s or purposes for which said $19,500 serial bonds
authorized pursuant to this resolution are to be issued, within
the limitations of Section ll.0g a. 81.(a) of the Law, is ten
(I0) years, but the purposed maturity of said serial bonds or
bond anticipation notes issued in anticipation thereof shall not
exceed five (5) years from the original issuance of obligations.
(b) Current funds are not re_c/uired by the Law to be
provided as a down payment prior to the issuance of the bonds
authorized by this resolution or any bond anticipation notes
issued in anticipation thereof in accordance with Section 107.00
d. 4 of the Law.
(c) The proposed maturity of the bonds authorized by
this resolution will not exceed five (5) years.
Section 4. Each of the bonds authorized by this
resolution and any bond anticipation notes issued in anticipation
of the sale of said bonds shall contain the recital of validity
as prescribed by Section 52.00 of the Law and said bonds and any
notes issued in anticipation of said bonds, shall be general
obligations of the Town, payable as to both principal and
interest by general tax upon all the taxable real property within
the Town without limitation of rate or amount. The faith and
credit of the Town are hereby irrevocably pledged to the punctual
payment of the principal of and interest on said bonds and any
notes issued in anticipation of the sale of said bonds and
provision shall be made annually in the budget of the Town by
OCTOBER 9, 1984
appropriation for (a) the amortization and redemption of the
bonds and any notes in anticipation thereof to mature in such
year and (b) the payment of interest to be due and payable in
such year.
Section 5. Subject to the provisions of this resolution
and of the Law and pursuan~ to the provisions of Section 30.00
relative to the authorization of the issuance of bond
anticipation notes and of Section 50.00 and Sections 56.00 to
60.00 of the Law, the powers and duties of the Town Board
relative to authorizing bond anticipation notes and prescribing
the terms, form and con=en=s and as to the sale and issuance of
the bonds herein authorized and of any bond anticipation notes
issued in~ anticipation of said bonds, and the renewals of said
notes, are hereby delegated to the Supervisor, the chief fiscal
officer of the Town.
Section 6. The validity of the bonds authorized by this
resolution and of any notes issued in anticipation of the sale of
said bonds, may be contested only if:
(a) such obligations are authorized for an object or
purpose for which the Town is not authorized to
expend money, or
(b) the provisions of law which should be complied with
at the date of the publication of such resolution
are not substantially complied with,
and an action, suit or proceeding contesting such validity, is
commenced within twenty days after the date of such publication,
or
(c) such obligations are authorized in violation of the
provisions of the constitution.
Section 7. This bond resolution shall take effect
immediately, and the Town Clerk of the Town, ~s hereby authorized
and directed to publish the foregoing resolution, in full,
together with a Notice attached in substantially the for~'
prescribed by §81.00 of the Law in "THE LONG ISLAND TRAVELER-
MATTITUCK WATCHMAN," a newspaper published in Southold, New York,
and in "THE SUFFOLK TIMES," a newspaper published in Greenport,
New York, each having a general circulation in the Town and
hereby designated the official newspapers of said Town for suck
publication.
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COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: On the record. I feel it's a worthwhile project.
i want the Police Department to be computerized and I want the Highway Depart-
ment to be computerized and in fact ! want a number of agencies in this Town
computerizecl. However, I don't think you should bond for something under
$20,000, so I can't see any sense in doing it that way. it should be a line right
in the budget. So in that sense I can vote for this.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: There was. no money in their budgets, Jay and the
Police Department budget is very, very tight. Mainly through overtime.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: When you have the money you buy it. If you
don't have the money you don't buy it.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, any other questions on it? (No response.)
22.-Vote of the Town Board: Abstain: Councilwoman Cochran:
Police Department. No: Councilman Schondebare. Ayes:
Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared LOST.
It involves the
Councilman Stoutenburgh,
23.
23.-Vote
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 23 is to adopt a Budget for Year XI Community
Development Program.
Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by CouncilWoman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby adoptes the
followin9 budget for the Year Xi Community Development Program:
7th Street Sewer Project ................................... $45,000.00
Crime/Alcohol/Drug Prevention Program .................... $ 6,000.'00
Clam Seed Program- ........................................ $ 6,000.00
Laurel Lake Recreation Area/Chamber of Commerce Project--S25, 000.00
Housing Assistance Project- ................................ $68,740.00
Administration ......................... a ...... = ............ $26,260.00
Contingency/Local Option $25,000.'00
of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: We were going to change this. We were going to
change a couple of the items here on this thing.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: It was changed. It's now called a Housing Assistance
Project.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Oh, okay, right.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: is it all right the way it reads?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Wait a minute, I thoug~ht it was $20,000 'for
the Chamber of Commerce.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: They moved the--the Contingency he thinks he
can get along with $5,000 so we left it up there. We left it alone because he
thought that we could get $20,000 out of the---
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: That's not the way ! wanted it.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Originally, Paul, it was changed, I remember,
and then I think it flipped back the other way during the Work Session.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: it. can be reallocated at another time.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: At any time. As Jim said, some of them put it in--
the whole amount into Contingency.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I'm only voting for this with the understanding
that this is not written in stone and that we can do whatever we want to ~1o with
this money and the needs of the Town, which is not necessarily reflected in this
resolution.
23.-Vote of the Town Board: (CONTINUED): No: Councilman Stoutenburgh: We decided
on something and change it, I don't, go for that. Ayes: Councilman Schondebare,.
Councilman Townsend: Yes, this is what i think we ended up with. Aye: Supervisor
Murphy.
This resolution was declared ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Resolution 24 is to hire a stenographer.
Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizer
Supervisor Francis J. Murphy to enter into a contractual agreement with Sara
Lenihan to perform part-time evenin~i~graphic services for the Southold
Town Board of Appeals, effective October 11, 1984, at a compensation of $5.00
per hour.
24.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Resolution No. 25 is regarding a Draft Environmental
Impact Statement.
25. Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby determines that
they will ~accept the Draft Environmental Impact Statement as submitted in connection
with the Dalchet Corporation, James R. Fogarty, Georgianna Fogart¥, John Pung,
I~V~in:S. Kruger, Reynold F. Blum, William A. Littell and Nancy Glover Victoria
Change of Zone Petition to be considered in the matter of the Change of Zone
Petition of Reynold F. Blum, Petition No. 263, dated May 29, 1984.
25.-Vote of the Town Board: Abstain: Councilwoman Cochran. Ayes: '~'Councilman
S~hondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Num~ber 26 is the decision on the Wetland Application. of~.
Edward Jablonski.
26. Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Schondebare,
WHEREAS, J. H. Geideman, on behalf of Edward Jablonski, applied to the Southold
Town Board for a permit under the provisions of the Wetland Ordinance of the Town
of Southold, application dated July 12, 1984~, and
WHEREAS, said application was referred to the Southold Town Trustees and Southold
Town Conservation Advisory Council for their findings and recommendations, and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held by the Town Board with respect to said applica-
tion on the 9th day of October, 1984., at which time all interested persons were given
an opportunity to be heard, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that J. H. Geideman, on behalf of Edward Jablonski, be Granted
permission under the provisions of the Wetland Ordinance of the Town of Southold
to construct bulkhead on property located at Arshamomaque Avenue, on Petty's
Pond, Southold, New York, PROVIDED said bulkhead is placed in accordance with
the DEC permit. This permit shall expire on October 9, 1985 if'work has not
Commenced 'by said date; there shall be two inspections required; and the Town
Clerk shall be notified when the project is completed.
26.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 27 is the decision on the Wetland Application of
Charles J. Galligan.
27.
Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Schondebarer
WHEREAS, The Land Use Company, on behalf of Charles J. Galligan, applied to
the Southold Town Board for a permit under the provisions of the Wetland Ordinance
of the Town of Southold, application dated July 16, 1984, and
WHEREAS, said application was referred to the Southold Town Trustees and Southold
Town Conservation Advisory Council for their findings and recommendations, and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held by the Town Board with respect to said applica-
tion on the 9th day of October, 1984, at which time all interested persons were given
an opportunity to be heard, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that The Land Use Company, on behalf of Charles J. Galligan, be Granted
permission under the provisions of the Wetland Ordinance of the Town of Southold to
construct dock, ramp and float on property located at 150 Westview Drive, on Mattituck
Creek, Mattituck, New York, PROVIDED the ramp is elevated three feet above the
marsh. This permit shall expire on October 9, 1985 if work has not commenced by
said date; there shall be two inspections required, and the Town Clerk shall be
notified when the project is completed.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY; Any questions? (No response.)
27.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 28 is a pending decision on the Wetland Application
of George Sweeny.
28.
Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilman Townsehd,
WHEREAS, The Land Use Company, on behalf of George Sweeny, applied to the Southolc
Town Board for a permit under the provisions of the Wetland Ordinance of the Town
of Southold, application dated July 23, 1984, and
WHEREAS, said application was referred to the Southold Town Trustees and Southold
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Town Conservation Advisory Council for their findings and recommendations, and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held by the Town Board with respect to ~aid applica-
tion on the 9th day of October, 1984, at which time all interested persons were given
an opportunity to be heard, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that The Land Use Company, on behalf of George Sweeny, be Granted
permission under the provisions or'the Wetland Ordinance of the Town of Southold to
maintenance dredge an existing boat slip to provide two feet of depth at MI_W, at
the end of Mason Drive, on Haywater Cove, Cutchogue, New York. This permit
shall expire on October 9, 1985 if work has not commenced by said date; there
shall be two inspections required; and the Town Clerk shall be notified when the
project is completed.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.)
28.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 29 is the decision on the Wetland Application of
Edward Quintieri and Richard Pulcini.
29.
Moved by Councilman Townsend, seconded by Councilman Schondebare,
WHEREAS, The Land Use .Company, on behalf of Edward Quintieri and Richard
Pulcini, applied to the Southold Town Board for a permit under the provisions
of the Wetland Ordinance of the Town of Southold, application dated July 125,
1984, and
WHEREAS, said application was referred to the Southold Town Trustees a~d Southold
Town Conservation Advisory Council for their findings and recommendations, and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held by the Town Board with respect to said applica-
tion on the 9th day of October, 1984, at which time all interested persons were given
an opportunity to be heard, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that The Land Use Company, on behalf of Edward Quintieri and Richard
Pulcini, be Granted permission under the provisions of the Wetland Ordinance of
thge Town of Southold to install timber bulkhead and two returns and plant spartina
alterniflora in the area seaward of ~aid bulkhead, at the northern terminus of Riley
Avenue, on James Creek, Mattituck, New York. This permit shall expire on October
9, 1985. if'work has not commenced by said date; there shall be two inspections __
required; and the Town Clerk shall be notified when the project ia completed.
29.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY.: Number 30 l,d like .to add on to get this in place, the
Local Law relative for permits and licenses for vehicles going into the disposal area.
30. Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Councilman Townsend,
WHEREAS, a proposed Local Law, entitled, "A Local Law in Relation to Permits and
Licenses for 'Vehicles Transportin9.Refuse into Town Refuse Disposal Area~s and
Penalties for Offenses" was introduced at a meeting of this Board held on the 11th
day of September, 1984, and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held thereon by this Board on the 9th day of
October, 19184., at which time all interested persons were given an opportunity
to be heard thereon, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that Local Law No. 9 - 1984 be enacted as follows:
LOCAL LAW NO. 9- 1984
A LOCAL LAW IN REI,ATION TO PERMITS AND LICENSES FOR VEHICLES TRANS-
PORTING REFUSE INTO TOWN REFUSE DISPOSAL AREAS AND PENALTIES FOR OFFENSES
BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
Chapter 48 of the Code of the Town of Southold is hereby amended
as follows: (additions are indicated by underline; deletions by
[brackets]).
The word "REFUSE" set forth in §48-1 thereof is hereby amended
to read as follows:
TI.
REFUSE - Any human, [or] animal or vegetable refuse, offal,
swill, cesspool and/or septic waste, sewage, garbage, paper,
ashes, junk, trash, rubbish, waste, of wha%ever material
composed, discarded machinery or parts thereof, discarded
vehicles or parts thereof and an unlicensed motor vehicle
parked, stored or standing outside an enclosed building in
an inoperative condition for more than thirty (30) days.
The term "REFUSE-DISPOSAL AREA" set forth in ~48-1 thereof
is hereby amended to read as follows:
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REFUSE DISPOSAL AREA -T~i~ary landfill site owned and
operated by the Town o~' $~hold located north of County Route
48 at Cutchogue, New York, and any premises designated by
the Town Board as [the] a refuse disposal area of [this] the
%own for the disposal of--refuse by the residents of [this]
the town.
III. Subdivision C of ~48-3 thereof is amended to read as follows:
IV.
No vehicle shall be permitted to transport refuse into
any refuse disposal area maintained by the Town of
Southold unless such vehicle displays a valid [parking]
psrmit and/or license issued pursuant %o the provisions
of [~48-3 of the Code of the Town of Southold.] this
chapter.
~48-4 and ~48-5 thereof are renumbered ~48-5 and S48-6
respectively.
A new ~48-4 is added thereto, to read as follows:
§48-4 Permit and License Fees.
The fees for the issuance of permits and/or licenses
for vehicles transporting refuse into any refuse disposal
area maintained by the Town of Southold shall be as follows:
(1) Parking permit - For non-commercial vehici~s of
less than one ton.capacity owned by a resident
and/or taxpayer of the Town of Southold and
transporting only household refuse, provided that
such vehicle displays a valid parking permit issued
· pursuant to-the provisions of ~65-3 of the Code
of the 'Town of Southold.
(2)
$.50 (fifty cent) Per Load Fee - For each non-
commercial vehicle of less than one ton capacity,
which possesses not permit.
(3) $15. Per Load Fee - For each sinqle axle truck which
(4)
(5)
,.(6)
.(7)
3,9)
(10)
does not possess a permit.
$25. Annual Fee - For each commercial vehicle
transportin~ liquid septic waste, together with
an additional fee of $.01 (one cent) for each gallon
of liquid waste discharged.
$25. Annual Fee - Fo~ each commercial contractor's
vehicle of less than one ton maximum gross vehicle
weight.
$25.. Annual Fee - For each farm vehicle of one ton
or more capacity, transporting agricultural waste.
$25. Per Load Fee - For each double axle truck which
does not possess a. permit.
$t00. Annual Fee - For each single axle vehicle
transporting solid waste (garbage).
$100. Annual Fee - For each commercial contractor's
vehicle of more than one ton capacity.
$250. Annual Fee - For each double axle and/or
compactor type vehicle transportinq solid waste
(~arbage).
(11) $250. Annual Fee - For each commercial contractor's
double axle and/or tractor-trailer combination of
more than one ton capacity.
B. Issuance and Duration of Permits and/or Licenses.
All permits and/or licenses provided for in this chapter
shall be issued by the Town Clerk. All annual permits
(including those previously issued) shall expire one
year from the date of the issuance thereof.
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C. Refund of Fees.
In the event that the Town Clerk has'heretofore issued
permits for vehicles transporting refuse into the town
landsite at Cutchogue, and the fees paid therefor exceed
the fees provided for herein, the Town Clerk is hereby
authorized to refund such excess fees to the holders
of such permits and/or licenses.
D. Amendment of Fees.
Notwithstanding any of the provisions hereof, the Town
Board may, by resolution, change, modify or repeal any
of the fees set forth in S48-4 hereof.
VI. This local law shall take effect upon its filing with the
Secretary of State.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: But there are no penalties on this.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: This amended the whole the law. It merged the entire
section.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: And where are the penalties?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Bob, where would the penalties on the Local Law?:
that in the Code now?
Is
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: Which penalties?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: On Local Law No. 9 in the landfill.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: That's in the code.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: It's in the Code presently7
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: Sure. There already has been a penalty in there.
We did it by a resolution. Now we're doing it by adding this into that Local Law
which provides for penalties and fines.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any other questions? (No response.) Everybody happy
with it? Let's have a vote and see.
30.-Vote of the Town Board: No: Councilwoman Cochran. Ayes: Councilman
Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I would just like to make three announcements before we
close and open up any public comments and that's about the Planning Board vacancy.
We're looking for a replacement. We're looking for people on a Handicapped Advisory
Committee to contact the Town Clerk's Office with a resume, and the Housing Advisory
Committee, who would like to serve on that. The papers could give it some publicity.
We would appreciate it. There will be an ad in the local papers also.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Frank, what about Resolution No. 19, transfer of
funds ?
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Nineteen I think we should hold, Jean. I'm not sure if
she has it coming out of Federal Revenue Sharing. I think that's where it's coming
out of.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: I can't find A599 anywhere on the report.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: If you look on the first page, CF599, appropriated fund
balance on Revenue Sharing.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: 599 is the code number for ali fund balances.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: It could be .there or it could be anywhere. So leave it
until Joan gets it squared away. At this time we finished our prepared and amended
to, many times, agenda and I'd like to ask any of the Councilmen if they hav~
anything further to say, starting on my left. Councilwoman Cochran?
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Thank you. No, do not. Thank you very much,
sir.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Paul?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: No,.I don't, Frank.
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SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Joe?
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Nothing.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Jay?
COU, NClLMAN SCHONDEBARE: No.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: At .this time I'd like to ask anyone in the audience if
they would like to have anything to say? Mr. Carlin.
MR. FRANK CARLIN, Laurel, N.Y.: Why am i always the last one? What I have
tonight, ladies and gentlemen of the Board, is a request and being that Ray Dean
is not here I was wondering if you would be so kind to listen to this request, and
I was 'disappointed that he wasn't here. I was expecting him to call me but I guess
something happened and he didn't. What i would like to show you here is'these
photographs--I'll pass them to you--of Cedar Drive (Southold). This is the residence
of Mr. and Mrs. Bob Kramkowski on Cedar Drive and that condition you see there
has been existing for between seven to eight years and perhaps over that. Now
I'm going to read you a letter that Mrs. Kramkowski wrote. "At the end of June Mr.
Jacobs told me that they were going to start work on this 'in two weeks. That was
three months ago. He used the excuse that they were busy tarring roads. At that
particular time I don't know what. roads as I haven't seen any that were done. I
have been after this for about seven to eight years. I've called several times this
year." Ladies and gentlemen, I think this is a disgrace. Here's people, husband and
wife, residents of Southold Town all their lives, taxpayers, and they have to put up
with something like this.' The statement was made by Mr. Jabobs that, "Well after
seven years I guess we should do something about it." It's a plain disgrace. It got
so bad that they had to replace their wooding fence, that's how much water they had
there when it rains and nothing has been done about it for seven to eight years or
more. The Town has been called up like I read and nothing was done. The piciure
is worth a thousand words and there's fifteen thousand there, as far as I'm concerned,
and I don't think this is fair. I think something should have been done about this
before now. They are taxpayers and right is right. I am disappointed that Ray
Dean is not here. I invited him last month to come here and I figured that he
wouldn't be here for two reasons. One, that he's afraid to face me. Two, that he
don't care. And I come to the conclusion both are valid. The man belongs at a
Town Board meeting, especi:ally the night one, so things like this can be discussed
with him face to face. That's his responsibility. That is 'why he's getting almost
$40,000 a year. That is his responsibility. When is he going to realize this? And
Frank, if
from now
coming if
more. A
right for
please do
you may, please take this back to Ray. If he don't want to debate me
on, say so and ! won't waste my time coming here no more. When is he
he don't want to face me face to face and we discuss these things. I have
lot more. This is only the beginning, and ladies and gentlemen, it's not
these people to have to put up with this kind of nonsense, so I ask you,
something about it. I think they waited long enough.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Definitely, Frank. Something will be done.
MR. CARLIN: And quick, Frank. I mean, they deserve something to be done,
not another year from now. No promises, please do something for them.
MRS. DOLORES KRAMKOWSKI: Actually that has been, I would say, over thirteen
years. When that was first taken care of a long time ago, we were having problems.
They put a drain. At that time my father, who's long since retired, worked for
the Town and when they did' that drain he was working then and he told them at
that time, this isn't going to work. This is clay. They didn't go down far enough.
As a result, it never worked. Judy, ! think you probably know, you go through
there and i'm sure you've gone through that puddle many a time.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: At least twice a day.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: She iust told me that.
MRS. KRAMKOWSKI: I called many a times. About thirteen years ago, as I recall,
before we remodeled that house, I called the Town. They send two men, two young
men, they came to the door. They said to me, "Yes, lady, ! think you do have a
problem." They left. That was it. That's it. I kept calling. Now I got the excuse,
"it's only on a heavy rain. It's only on a heavy rain." It wasn't on a heavy rain.
It was on any rain. In fact last year one time I called and called 8 o'clock in the
morning. I said, "Mr. Jacobs---Mr. Dean, did we have a heavy rain last night?"
He says, "No." I said, "Then please come check my pond in front of my house,
because it is across the road." This year I called three times. The one time i
called, I said, "Mr. Dean, .there's ducks swimming out in front of my house. They're'
diving. They're actually diving in the water." That's how deep it was. From across
the street the dirt from the driveway all comes in my driveway. We want to get our
driveway fixed, we can't. To get in the car we have to step in two, three inches
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of water by our garage. We've replaced our fence posts, they rot out. We've had
roses, they drown. It got to the point,to get our mail we have to put boots: on.
We have to put boots on. It got to the point we're joking around, we're going to
buy a rowboat to go get our mail in front of our house. It's really bad. Now,
when he came by in June, Mr. Jacobs came, he came to the door, inspected, and
he said, "We definitely are going to do something. We will be starting in 'two weeks.
Well, two weeks came, two weeks went. A month came, a month went, Two months,
three months. They never came back. They just don't do a thing and they did say
that they have to dig deeper for another drain or have it go across the road, because
it's getting worse, it's not getting better. It's getting worse and worse and the cars
go through there, they have to go one at a.time. The kids used to go to school,
they have to go on neighbors yards to get the bus, they couldn't go through our
d rivew ay. ~
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Ray and ! will go there Thursday. I have to go into New
York on the Farmland bond issue tomorrow and so I can't go, but Ray and I will
be there on Thursday, I guarantee you.
MRS. KRAMKOWSKI: He himself told me jokingly, "Well after seven, years of
complaining i think we really should do something." This was early this year.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Ray will do something, he will.
MRS. KRAMKOWSKI: We really would appreciate having something done because
it's getting hazardous there and we've got little children on our road now, ,across
the street and it's going to be very haza'rdous for those little children.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: It's very bad in'the wintertime with ice, too.
MRS. KRAMKOWSKI: It is, when it gets iced up, it's just total ice.
SUPERVISOR MURPltY: It will be taken care of.
MRS. KRAMKOWSKI~ I thank you very much.
SUPERVISOR, MURPHY: Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
MR. CARLIN: One more thing, I did not receive a notice, Frank, of the stand
meeting, you know, which I have a stand at. I don't sell that much, but I have
a stand there. I didn't know there was a meeting, so I did not receive the notice
that there was a meeting. I have a stand, as yoUknow, i don't sell only raspberries.
TOWN CLERK
MR. CARLIN:
a farm or just
COUNCILMAN
COUNCILMAN
district?
TERRY: I believe they were sent to farmers, specifically.
Well, what am I considered, I have a whole stand. Am I considered
a hobby?
STOUTENBURGH: They didn't do all the little ones.
SCHONDEBARE: Are you selling retail in an agricultural-r~sidential
MR. CARLIN: What?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE:
in a residential area?
MR. CARLIN: I'm agricultural.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE:
Are you selling? Are you conducting a business
I just sell raspberries.
I don't understand. Are you conducting a business
in a residential area? Are you selling something?
MR. CARLIN: No, this is agriculture, this is faro area, this is rated as faming
where I am at.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Are you conducting a business in an agricultural---
MR. CARLIN: This is no business.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: No?
MR. CARLIN: No, it's no business. Just one thing on Why I was disappointed
'in not seeing Mr. Ray Dean here tonight. I don't want to let you in on a,II my
secrets, but I have so many cases, you see all these here. ! have so many things
I have to discuss. Do you see all these pictures here? That's only the beginning.
You see, I've got alt these cases I wanted to discuss with Mr. Dean and I must see
him face to face to get these things answered, you know?
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SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I'll see if J.i.can~ a~ange something.
MR. CARLIN: I hope so. If not, then he should tell me. I think it was fair
enough for me if I couldn't make it, and I have a cold tonight, I could have
stayed home, but I came and I would have called him if I couldn't have made it.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Have you gone to his officer Frank?
MR. CARLIN: Excuse me?
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Have you gone to his office to see him?
MR. CARLIN: No, I figured that---
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We'll set an appointment up for you at his office.
MR. CARl_IN: Well, I'd like to have the debate here' inlthe hall.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Mr. Dean does not have to attend, and his wife is sick
right now.
MR. CARLIN: Oh, okay.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: And he's not going---
MR. CARLIN: But he could attend the Board meeting, the public meeting.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: He was at the Work Session all day.
MR. CARLIN: Yes, but he should attend this meeting here tonight. I know other
towns do it. I mean, Riverhead Town's Highway Supervisor makes every meeting
they have at night.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: Well, we can't order him to do that.
MR.. CARLIN: But this isn't the policy. I mean, he belongs here. He's being
paid by the taxpayers.
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: He's an elected official.
MR. CARLIN: He's an elected official, .they pay his salary. Many times there are
questions are brought up here which I've noticed are in his area. He could answer
and he's not here to answer it.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Like an elected official does not every have to show up for
work.
MR. CARLIN: Then what's he getting paid for?
COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND: If he wants to stay elected he will.
MR. CARLIN: I mean, but if other towns can do it,' why can't he, he belongs here
as well as you do, Frank.
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Frank, Mr. Dean has done a very good job over the years
for the highways in the Town. ! think we have snowplowing--I don't any Town
could match us--the condition of our roads. There are some cases, like this one,
I don't know what happened, but we'll find out.
MR. CARLIN: There are a lot more cases.
SUPERVISOR
MR. CARLIN:
SUPERVISOR
MURPHY: But we'll find out, we'll find out.
That's what I want to get settled.
MURPHY: And I think they can be straightened out properly.
MR. CARLIN: Because this should be done. But he--should make at least the
evening Town Board meeting. Riverhead does. Frank, I spoke with Charlie
Bloss this morning, he said, "i make the Town Board--especially the one in the
evening. I belong there."
SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, that we can't do anything about.
MR. CARLIN: I have the. menu with me here and it's right on there who makes
the Town Board meetings in Riverhead.
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SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Anything further? Thank you, Frank. Anyone else like
to make a comment?. (No response.) If not, I would entertain a motion to adjourn.
Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Townsend, it was
RESOLVED that this meeting be adjourned at 10:30 P.M.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Sch0ndebare,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Councilman Townsend, Supervisor Murphy.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
Judith T. Terry ~'
Southold Town Clerk