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HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-07/19/2022 PH 1 COUNTY OF SUFFOLK : STATE OF NEW YORK TOWN OF SOUTHOLD -------------------------------------------------- TOWN OF SOUTHOLD REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING -------------------------------------------------- Southold, New York July 19 , 2022 4 : 30 P . M . B E F 0 R E : SCOTT A . RUSSELL, SUPERVISOR LOUISA P . EVANS , JUSTICE JILL DOHERTY, COUNCILWOMAN BRIAN 0 . MEALY, COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI , COUNCILMAN SARAH E . NAPPA, COUNCILWOMAN July 19, 2022 2 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I am going to invite anybody that would like to speak on any of the agenda items . So please feel free? MS . ANNE MURRAY : Hi . I am Anne Murray from East Marion . And I just really hope that you will vote on this zone change for the oyster factory . We have been waiting a really long time on this . I think -- I understand why you want to discuss different options but at this point, you have had your own time to talk about it . I think it ' s better for us of East Marion and the Town . This is just my own personal opinion . You know, we can ' t wait any longer . By the time you get a consultant to do the whole zoning thing, don ' t wait for that . Just get it done . Thank you . MR . MARK SULLIVAN : Mark Sullivan . I live in East Marion . I agree with Anne totally . We have been talking about this for years . We have been watching it carefully . If you decide to act like a unified Board and get it July 19, 2022 3 done . I think there is a small special interest group that has been here for a while . And I hope that you understand this is best for the community . I don ' t see how that can possibly be ( inaudible ) cleaning it up, useful to a small group of baymen and their shellfish . I agree there should be a fishing industry on the east end . Thank you for letting me speak before the Board . Thank you . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Anybody else who would like to address the Board? MR . DAVE GALLO : Good afternoon, Dave Gallo of Georgica Green Ventures , 50 Jericho Quadrangle . Just going to read a quick letter that our attorney, David Gilmartin wrote . "Dear Mr . Supervisor and Town Board Members . Please be advised that we represent Georgica Green Ventures and Housing Initiatives , LLC, in connection with the 24 unit Affordable Housing development called Cutchogue Woods . As expressed in the Comprehensive Plan, which is bluntly July 19, 2022 4 and obviously available to everyone in the Town, availability of Affordable Housing for full-time residents , especially workforce is a serious problem. Indeed, if not all the speakers that spoke at two Public Hearing for this application recognized the need and Affordable Housing . My client has had the opportunity to observe today ' s work session and understands the complexity of considerations before the Board as it relates to the Town ' s broader plan to address workforce housing . Accordingly, we respectfully request that the project ' s resolution be tabled for 30 days , at this time , which would allow for us to explore alternatives that might address the significant housing need in the Town of Southold . Thank you in advance, David J . Gilmartin, Jr . " SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : You ' re asking for a 30 day delay? MR . DAVE GALLO : Yes . Correct, or perhaps , what you feel is appropriate . July 19, 2022 5 That is what Dave wrote . I am going to say that from my perspective, I heard a lot . I want to still be able to try digest and come back with some options and be able to present some alternatives and some ideas that we have . And was hoping that we would have an opportunity to do that . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : That would probably -- well , I shouldn ' t say that . What you might propose might very well require another Public Hearing, which would be another noticing, perhaps go through the process all over again . MR . DAVE GALLO : We understand . We heard a lot of the comments . I think a lot of the comments we -- we understand and we just want an opportunity to try to see if there is a way to continue moving forward and meet some of the issues that we heard and present some new ideas and some new alternatives that might help . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Who else would like to address the Board? July 19, 2022 6 MR . DAVE GALLO : Thank you . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Thank you . MS . RANDY WADE : Hi . I am very grateful , and I just wanted to make it clear to those people who were a little confused this morning, because I talked to people afterwards . I had to leave early . The fact that you are going to make good effort and get this on the ballot for November is going to be wonderful news to a lot of people . COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Can I just clarify what you ' re talking about? It ' s the housing plan referendum on the ballot for this November as opposed to next November . MS . RANDY WADE : Right . And then no matter what happens , if the Public Hearing determines that we need to refine the plan a little bit, at least the public will be involved in the process and they will be able to ( inaudible ) in . And I am -- I am sure that the Civic Associations would love July 19, 2022 7 the outreach . So that when people go to vote in November, they will be prepared and know what it ' s about . And this Town will go for it . There has been a crisis for a long time . But the last couple of years with COVID have made it so drastic, and dire . As Denis knows , he had to like turn people away . And we all just know people who are hurting badly . So thanks for trying and that money will then accrue for whenever we do have the plan to spend it . Thanks . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Thank you . Who else would like to address the Town Board on any agenda item? BOARD ROOM : Go ahead, Gail . You have permission to speak? MS . GAIL WICKHAN : Good afternoon, I couldn ' t see who was speaking . And I just wanted to ask if the gentleman who just asked for a 30 day tabling of the resolution, was speaking to Cutchogue Woods or some other matter? SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Cutchogue Woods . July 19, 2022 8 MS . GAIL WICKHAN : Okay . My comment or my confusion is , in order to -- the prior objection here is location . I don ' t know how 30 days here is going to change that . I just wanted to mention that to the Board . Thank you . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Anybody else like to address the Town Board on any specific agenda issue? (No Response ) . (Whereupon, the meeting continued on to the Resolutions at this time . ) SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I would invite anybody who would like to comment on any item, please feel free at this point? MR . MARK SULLIVAN : -- for acting and voting on the rezoning . I think it ' s in the best interest of the community and the neighborhood . ( Inaudible ) new owner or architect submitted any other proposals for that parcel ? Anything we should be knowing about and don ' t? SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : We can ' t July 19, 2022 9 presume that there are actual owners . Someone who wanted to make a presentation to the Board, they might have represented them as an owner, but we can ' t verify . They might have owned it . They had a concept . We heard them out . And no application was ever submitted . In fact -- MR . MARK SULLIVAN : There was an article in the Suffolk Times . They didn ' t close on it? SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : They might have . Again, I can ' t -- look, we had someone that made a presentation on a piece of property . It might have been the owner . I don ' t know if the owner or a representative that came before us . COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : I think they said that they were representatives . They have not applied to us at all or whether they purchased the property or not . I don ' t know . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : It was an owner ' s representative from my understanding . Not an actual owner . July 19, 2022 10 That is all I can speak to . MR . MARK SULLIVAN : Thank you very much . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : And quite honestly, we probably extended more courtesy than we normally would since we ' re in the middle of a Public Hearing . That is probably my fault for allowing that . Always trying to do as best as we can . MR . ERIC MCCLURE : Thank you, Supervisor Russell and members of the council . My name is Eric McClure from Mattituck . I wanted to say thank you for your attention to my concerns expressed at the last meeting in regards to the boating club and Windamere . I had a long conversation with Mr . Burke following day and I appreciated his interest in help . I just wanted to give you a little bit of an update on what has happened in the last couple of weeks . I think two nights after the last Board meeting, I called the police at 11 : 20 at night because they were July 19, 2022 11 still playing the radio relatively loud . Probably not breaking code, but at that time of night, everything still and you get the radio coming in the windows . There is no choice but to close them up and turn on the air conditioner . A couple of nights after that , Saturday night, they had a very loud band playing . We were at dinner in Greenport and got several texts from my next door neighbor, Audrey Watson, saying that she had broken down and texted Jeff, asking him to turn it down because it was so loud . We got home just in time for the last couple of songs right after 9 : 00 o ' clock and thought that they were pushing 70 on the decibel meter and Audrey told me that was much quieter than it had been before she had texted Jeff . Last week, Audrey and I were both contacted by somebody from Strong ' s , who said that Jeff had wanted them to come over and take decibel readings in Audrey ' s yard, to compare it to what they were reading on their property . July 19, 2022 12 They have decibel reader . And they did that on Saturday evening . The band was fairly loud . And I got a text yesterday from the woman at Strong ' s saying that they had taken a reading at 50 decibels on their property and then had come over to Audrey ' s yard and took a reading of 46, which to me would have been laughable if it wasn ' t pathetic and completely misleading . Anyone who has ever handled a decibel reader knows that the sound jumps up and down . You can ' t take a reading during one song and then come over and take a reading during another song and think that they ' re comparable in any way . Anybody who has ever looked into the Science of sound conduction over body ' s of water knows that it ' s an amplifier . It ' s going to be louder on our sound of the water than the property where the sound is being created . When I spoke to the woman from Strong ' s , she also said that they wanted to work with us and be good neighbors , but that the destination music has July 19, 2022 13 become a big part of their business for people boating over from Connecticut or New Jersey . And I think it ' s clear to me that they have become a music venue and a night club first . And everything else that they do, second . And I just underscored it for me and for my neighbors , that they ' re not really interested in trying to be better neighbors . They ' re not really interested in trying to -- all they ' re really interested in, can they hold up a decibel meter, so a police can say, yeah, we are under the volume that we ' re supposed to be . So it really hasn ' t gotten any better . I don ' t anticipate it ' s going to get any better . And again, just hear to implore you to help us out and take better actions so that the Board can take to help address the sound situation from Strong ' s . Thank you . COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Thank you for that comment . I will tell you after we spoke last time , I didn ' t do it July 19, 2022 14 right away . By the time I got to call Jeff, it was a few days . I don ' t remember what day it was . But he discussed he would try to do what he said he did . And we -- I agree -- and he e-mailed all of us . So we got that . And I think you were right . He has to take more than one shot at it . Sit there for a while and take a few of them and average it out . But you know, we will answer his e-mail and keep working with this . And he is willing to work with you . And you know, his business is zoned that . So he has a right to do certain things but doesn ' t have the right to -- I don ' t know what the right word is , but to serve the neighborhood on a regular basis . So I will continue with my conversation with him and we will see where we can go . MR . ERIC MCCLURE : Thank you . And yeah, my contention is , they ' re allowed to do what they ' re allowed to do . They should not be imposing that commercial activity on a residential -- July 19, 2022 15 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : That is a better way to say it . MR . ERIC MCCLURE : I was also hoping that I would be there when they came over to read . So that I could -- I invested in a decibel reader years ago when this started . I wanted to be able to compare the readings that I had to what they were getting . To see that we were synced . So that when they said I was reading whatever it was across the water, I could give them a comparable -- COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : I am sure if you reach out to them -- to the woman that you were discussing this with, she would be willing to do it again . MR . ERIC MCCLURE : I know the one time the police supervisor took a reading in our backyard, our decibel readers were right at the same level . Thank you . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Let me just say, Eric and I think I have mentioned this in the past . I have July 19, 2022 16 known you for years . When you send e-mails , I am not ignoring you . I conflict out . MR . ERIC MCCLURE : Yeah, I know that Scott . Thank you . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Sure . MS . ANNE MURRAY : I just want to say thank you to everybody for finally passing that zone change for East Marion . I am very grateful . It has been a long, long time since we have had any kind of feeling that is -- maybe temporary but at least settled for now . So thank you . COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : Anne, thank you for all your work with the Civics . And for me, as a student of our community, Civics have really informed us and informed our decisions and thank you for doing the good work that -- you know, often not noticed . But we see you . Thank you . MR . STEPHEN BUCZAK : Supervisor Russell , Members of the Board . My name is ( inaudible ) . I am a 30 year July 19, 2022 17 resident . I appeared before you in February, requested a Town vote or an item on the senior citizen application . That has never been addressed by the Town . I have it -- I have it highlighted here . RP-467 . It has probably been on there because it was opinion of counsel in 1997 that gives the Town that option to vote or note to vote on Veteran ' s disability money counted in towards your senior application . In other words , I had the senior exemption for a couple of years . I had 1000 disability from the Vietnam service . And then on the last year or year before, they said we have to count it as income . Can I approach? SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Please . MR . STEPHEN BUCZAK : It would be easier, this is the RP-467 . And this -- this is the item. And it ' s been overlooked . And according to the Assessor Charlie Sanders , he looked into it . He said it has never been addressed by the Town . And it has been over 20 July 19, 2022 18 years . So assuming it has been overlooked . Imagine combat veterans with disability, money as income . And the Town has a right to do that . And it was an opinion of counsel in 1972 that gives the Town the right to charge that as income . But the State came back in ' 97 and on another opinion of counsel , indicated that the Town has the right to say "Yay" or "Nay" on that item. SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Let me just clarify and I met with you a few -- MR . STEPHEN BUCZAK : Right . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Just to explain to the Board, when New York State adopts the senior citizens exemptions , they provide for what ' s called a local allotment . So each of the taxing districts get to set their own income limit because it ' s a need based exemption . It ' s a scale . A sliding scale . So each taxing jurisdiction, the Town, the County and the school district get to set their own limit . The Assessor ' s , I met with them . July 19, 2022 19 You don ' t get to -- because of your income , you are already maxed out . So you already receive maximum at the Town and the County level , but because there is a local option, the school would need to opt in to reduce the income . Calculate it to qualify for the school portion of the exemption, which is where most of the taxes , no doubt . But I suggested to you to go to the school and discuss with them and tell them you would like them to pass a Local Law at their level or a -- whatever the act that they would adopt . That would basically opt-in to the exclusion -- MR . STEPHEN BUCZAK : This is up to the Town . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : There is no action that the Town can take . I told you that because I can ' t force the school to give you an exemption . MR . STEPHEN BUCZAK : It just seems --I am referencing to the senior citizen exemption . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : That is July 19, 2022 20 right . MR . STEPHEN BUCZAK : As far as how they count income . Like they count disability . Some of it Social Security . On this one, with the service connected -- well , not service . VA disability exemption, the Town has to the right to count it as income or deduct it . It ' s up to the Town . And it has been there for over -- well , it ' s been there for 25 years . And from what I understand, it has never been addressed here . I figured it was high time that you guys addressed that . At least for your combat veterans coming back from Iraq, Afghanistan . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I understand everything that you ' re saying but you need the school to contact us and say that we ' re going to opt-in to the program. So that you can extend that benefit to the Town -- MR . STEPHEN BUCZAK : I understand that Mr . Russell , but I don ' t -- SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : You can July 19, 2022 21 go to the school board meetings . I told you to bring it up to them. And they will make one phone call up to Kevin and get the whole thing resolved . I promised you that . They ' re very responsive . And Kevin or Charles , whoever takes the call and be responsive . And you know Charles . He ' s -- very zealous about the care for veterans . MR . STEPHEN BUCZAK : All right . Thank you . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Who also would like to address the Town Board? Please . MR . JAMES HIGHRIDDEN : Hello Supervisor Russell and council . Nice to see you all . I have been living at 16 Boulevard by ( inaudible ) almost 20 years . 18 years . Up until a few years had a really good relationship . I am part of Breezy Shores . Next to Brick Cove Marina . We have always had a good relationship . As you may know over the last few years since the ownership has July 19, 2022 22 changed, that we have had some acrimony . Because the developing and throwing events and parties and noise and traffic . Anyway . According to Rule -- I think it ' s 180-7 , that talks about prohibiting noise in a Southold, it says that -- it ' s like that of a leaf blower from a landscaper is prohibited after 6 : 00 P .M . But on July 8th, I think two Friday ' s ago , at 11 : 30 P .M . , on a Friday night . I was in my house and I heard a noise so loud that I thought it was a car crash . So I went out and I kept going . I rode my bike in to the Brick Cove Marina and there was a big Caterpillar machine -- I think it ' s called a material handler . Has a huge arm . That was crushing boats and putting them into certain huge containers . It ' s something that they have done during the day on Saturday ' s and Sunday ' s . Never been an issue . But at 11 : 30 at night, on a Friday, I am shocked . So I went up to the guy and asked him if he can please -- I asked July 19, 2022 23 him what he was doing . He said, who are you? I said, I am your neighbor . I said, "can you please stop? It ' s 11 : 30 . " He said, " I ' ve got another hours worth of work to do . " I asked him to reconsider . He said, no . So the construction went on until 11 : 30 . Do you need me to stop? COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Just give us one second . Sorry . MR . JAMES HIGHRIDDEN : So again, I was shocked that Brick Cove Marina would hire and allow that kind of construction to happen at 11 : 30 P . M . at night . And I had to kindly ask to please stop and they said, no . I don ' t want to call the police because it wasn ' t an emergency . I didn ' t want to bother a police officer at 11 : 30 on a Friday and make his problems within the community but I think it just demonstrates and ongoing lack of consideration for the quality of life from Brick Cove Marina . Thank you very much . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Just so July 19, 2022 24 you know, I had actually this past weekend, someone had given me an earful and they actually don ' t live in Breezy Shores , but they don ' t live too far from here . And apparently there is a lot of activity that this person brought to my attention . I was going to discuss it with Town Code Enforcement and ask them to at least go out and explore it and if there is any validity or not . And my understanding is that there is a lot of stuff taking place -- MR . JAMES HIGHRIDDEN : Yeah . More than one night . My neighbor Mary would like to speak to that . And we had problems before when they used to have loud parties and -- whatever it was . With live bands . And that was okay . And then it just got louder and louder and we finally called the police . We have not had an issue yet this year . But I know by August, with the activity there, they ' re ramping up . So it may or may not be an issue . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I am not July 19, 2022 25 in a position to say that anybody is violating any code but I got complaints and certainly we ' re hearing you, and we will look into it . MR . JAMES HIGHRIDDEN : Thank you . Appreciate it . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Please . MS . MARY DOWD : Hello Supervisor Russell and the Town Board . Since the sale Brick Cove Marina -- SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Please state your name . MS . MARY DOWD : Mary Dowd and I live in Greenport . Since the sale of Brick Cove Marina in October of 2020 there has been a lot of -- the new owners have been busy with making a lot of changes to the property . And I live adjacent to Brick Cove Marina at Breezy Shores . And many of the old boats , just as James said earlier have been -- they have been cut up and crushed . And that heavy equipment that lifts up the -- reduced size of this fiberglass and it ' s dumped into large containers . And July 19, 2022 26 recently the heavy equipment has extended into the evening hours . And even into the morning hours . So this is after James ' incident on July 8th, on Tuesday, July 12th, the heavy equipment is starting to go again at 10 : 30 P . M . and the loud sawing and crushing and dumping of the boats continue . And till -- and it kept me from sleeping . So finally at 3 : 00 A. M . , I called the police . And they came out . I could see their flood lights and everything and the noise stopped . But it started up only two hours later at 5 : 00 A .M . So you know, Brick Cove Marina is surrounded by four neighborhoods . There is August Acres . There is Southold Shores . There is Breezy Shores and there is the homes along Sage Boulevard . And what really concerns me, after numerous complaints made to the workers there, and the owners are surely aware of it as well , that this heavy equipment continues to be operated into the early morning hours . I spoke to the Code Enforcement July 19, 2022 27 officer Arthur Bloom today . And he said that there are rule limits on the decibel of noise levels from 7 : 00 P . M . to 7 : 00 A .M . for M II Zoned commercial property . So I respectfully request that the Southold Town noise ordinances be enforced for Brick Cove Marina . So the residents can continue with their quality of life . I mean, to loose sleep for five hours or more, you know, it ' s just not right . So thank you for your time and consideration . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Thank you . BOARD ROOM : Nikos , you have permission to speak now . MR . NIKOS THEODASPLOULAS : Thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak remotely here . I just wanted to make a quick comment on the potential law that the Board is looking to pass in a couple of weeks on the house sizing . I did listen to the replay of the discussion the Town had on this and I am generally in agreement with it . The July 19, 2022 28 only comment I had on this was , earlier in this meeting you had mentioned that, you know, it ' s likely to pass . You ' re looking at some potential modifications . And if doesn ' t work out, in a couple of years you could potentially revisit it . I am in a timing situation where my home is now too small for my family . I have four kids and it was a decent size when they were little kids . Now they ' re teenagers and adults . We don ' t live there full-time . So it ' s not a major topic for us , but we ' re looking to rebuild . So my only request is , try to make it as perfect as possible . And I know perfection is not possible, but try to make it as perfect as possible . Don ' t overreach with the thought process that we will just fix it in a couple of years . So for example, when I read the draft, there were square feet requirements based on your size . And that is reasonable . But then there was a whole discussion which I didn ' t understand on pyramid law . It would July 19, 2022 29 seem to me if you have a square foot requirement, that will limit the size of the house and the requirements you have seem pretty reasonable . But then you also limit how tall they are in the rigid of the house , in addition to the square footage, it might be impractical or cause for really unfavorable designs . You know, going from garages that are attracted or -- sorry, detached in front of the home to make up for the laws , which I think would look uglier . And that is something I don ' t think people would want to do . Just so -- I just wanted to express my opinion since I wasn ' t able to attend the last Board meeting . Thank you . COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : I just want to clarify one thing you said . We said in a couple of weeks . Not a couple of years . So we have a meeting scheduled for next week . And I -- MR . NIKOS THEODASPLOULAS : No . What I meant -- SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I think July 19, 2022 30 it would take a few years for us to make the changes . I don ' t think the intent of the Board to do that . The intent of the Board was to adopt it . And then if we needed to get back and re-finesse it , then do it immediately and have a draft within a few months . Weeks . But your point is well taken . Mary, let me see if anyone else wants to go first . Anyone in Zoom Land? BOARD ROOM : Nobody on Zoom. That ' s it . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Is there anybody that hasn ' t spoken that would like to address the Town Board? Mary . MS . MARY DOWD : I am just going to piggy-back on the house size . And I just want to thank you, Supervisor Russell for your outstanding service to the Town . You have done a tremendous job all these years . Again, Mary Dowd . And I just thought I would bring up, you probably have all seen the 2016 documentary "One Big Home . " And recently the director addressed the July 19, 2022 31 three reasons why people were opposed to limiting house size . And they are, 1 , it ' s a free country . You can ' t tell me what to do with my property . 2 , property values would be affected by limiting the ability to get profit and sell to the highest bidder and, 3 , limiting house size would take away jobs . And Thomas Bena answers to these three reasons? He said the free country idea is false, because there are zoning regulations in those towns . And 2 , historically property values actually continue to go up after limits to house size were implemented because there is a sense that the Town is preserved and not being over built . And 3 , the jobs issues is completely erroneous because people can still build houses . They just can ' t build big trophy homes . So just thought I would add that block of information on that ongoing conservation . Thanks . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Thank you . Who else would like to address the July 19, 2022 32 Town Board? JUSTICE LOUISA EVANS : Motion to adjourn . COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Second . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : All in favor? COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Aye . COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : Aye . COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: Aye . COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Aye . JUSTICE LOUISA EVANS : Aye . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Aye . (Whereupon, the meeting concluded at this time , 5 : 39 P . M . ) July 19, 2022 33 C E R T I F I C A T I O N I , JESSICA DILALLO, a Court Reporter and Notary Public, for and within the State of New York, do hereby certify : THAT the above and foregoing contains a true and correct transcription of the Meeting held on July 19, 2022 , via videoconference , and were transcribed by me . I further certify that I am not related to any of the parties to this action by blood or by marriage and that I am in no way interested in the outcome of this matter . IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this 5th day of August , 2022 . Jessica DiLallo