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HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-05/24/2022 PH 1 COUNTY OF SUFFOLK : STATE OF NEW YORK TOWN OF SOUTHOLD -------------------------------------------------- TOWN OF SOUTHOLD REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING -------------------------------------------------- Southold, New York May 24 , 2022 4 : 30 P . M . B E F 0 R E : SCOTT A . RUSSELL, SUPERVISOR LOUISA P . EVANS , JUSTICE JILL DOHERTY, COUNCILWOMAN BRIAN 0 . MEALY, COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI , COUNCILMAN SARAH E . NAPPA, COUNCILWOMAN May 24, 2022 2 SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I would like to invite anybody who would like to comment on any of the specific agenda items , please feel free? MS . KATHERINE SEPENOSKI : Katherine Sepenoski . I am not sure is Chapter 70 going to be on tonight? Because I thought it was on the work session? SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Actually the work session was to decide what steps would be with regards to the Town wants to move forward with recommendations amending Chapter 70 . And the Board has decided to go ahead and start convening and meeting . We ' re going to develop a list of questions as a Board and then bring people to try and get answers to those questions as we move forward and start to make decisions . MS . KATHERINE SEPENOSKI : As opposed to moving right to hiring a separate counsel to review everything and come up with a determination separate from the Board members deciding? Because you referenced hiring a consultant potentially delay Chapter 70 . And as you stated, came down May 24, 2022 3 the highway another 18 months ? SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : That ' s actually -- no . The issue is , we ' re hiring a consultant to redo or to help the Town re-craft new code and new zoning . The issue is whether we were going to give this task to this consultant, that would yes , delay both our review of 70 and more than likely extend the deadline needed to do the rest of it because it would add a substantial amount of new work . MS . KATHERINE SEPENOSKI : So what was discussed during the Ag Meeting where you stated that the Board should go ahead and have at it? SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : And that is what we decided today . MS . KATHERINE SEPENOSKI : The other issue was the Big House Legislation . Is that being put forward tonight? COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : The Public Hearing is on the 21st of June . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : So what we will do is have that discussion when we get done with the agenda . We will talk about May 24, 2022 4 the Big House . COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : We set the Public Hearing for the 21st . MS . KATHERINE SEPENOSKI : I definitely want to have a conversation with the rest of the Board members . I know Scott ' s feeling . Thank you . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Thank you . Okay . Nobody else wants to address the Town Board on this agenda? (No Response . ) (Whereupon, the Meeting continued the Public Meeting . ) CHAPTER 280 - USE REGULATIONS PUBLIC HEARING SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I would like to invite anybody to come on up and address this Public Hearing? Go ahead, Pat . MS . PATRICIA MOORE : Thank you . Good evening . Patricia Moore . I wish to speak on -- I am generally in support of the code that allows for additional uses . My comments are more in line with reviewing the R0 . My office happens to be an R0 . So specifically how it might impact a property like mine . To begin with, I am out of the May 24, 2022 5 Halo zone . So my property and pretty much anybody -- RO carries along Main Road on both sides . Almost to Harts Hardware . Down there . But the Halo zone ends at this corner, I believe . So there are lots of homes -- old homes that would be suitable for this type of use which have larger properties and can accommodate this use . You eliminated them by forcing them to be in the Halo Zone . I don ' t know about the other hamlets , but certainly Southold, the Halo Zone is concise but it ' s primarily in the Commercial District . There is not much at least on the Main Road that is the -- that allows for the conversation . I would suggest that the Board consider allowing proximate to the Halo . Either proximate to the Halo because certainly I can walk into my town from my office and certainly anyone else who is in this area . And those -- I don ' t know how many people are going to jump on this proposal because there is so many other aspects , that I think create obstacles . For the most part, the location, I think you should consider having a certain May 24, 2022 6 distance from the Halo Zone . The facts on the ground have changed since the Hamlet study was done . So I would ask you to consider this in this legislation . For reason I think you have an obstacle for providing for this use is that you are limiting it to the existing building . And any existing building you have is going to come across State Building Code, Fire Code, other issues that ultimately when the buildings -- you start making the alterations to the building, the Building Department is going to deem that you have a demolition because you ' ve got so many alterations being done to the existing building to make it conform to the State Building Code . When you start adding multiple units in one building -- six, I think is the number of units that are permitted, then end up needing certain fire rating, certain sprinklers . And if you go into a few story ' s , elevators . And I think that trying to take an existing building and limit this use to only an existing building, I think limits and creates an obstacle when May 24, 2022 7 you ' re trying to provide for an affordable apartment . Different alternative to our housing, Scott . We just don ' t have apartments and in part because we -- every time we adopt something, we create obstacles towards its adoption . So it becomes impractical . The other issue I would raise that I know from my own office is an apartment for my dad and I needed it to be handicap accessible, the code said existing -- excuse me, apartments over business and professional places -- well , I wanted to put it over the office if that was possible, but that would have required an extensive investment in an elevator . And you add easily several thousands of dollars to add an elevator . The infrastructure for an elevator could leave someone finding to maintain serve the elevator after it has been built . So I would ask you to also look at apartments over business and professional offices because they ' re not really over . That works fine with the business where you have a little storefront and you might have a little apartment -- full-time little May 24, 2022 8 apartment over the office . But well aware that you have offices , you may have -- in my building, it ' s all an office . And then behind, I would have the flexibility to build the apartment . It was something that I had to yield to the Zoning Board of Appeals . Again, it ' s another obstacle . To the extent that you can limit another application to the Zoning Board, variances , fees that it all entails , you ' re again, undermining your goals to increase affordable housing . You have also a provision that it has to remain in common ownership . I am assuming you want one property owner to own the building . That ' s fine . But why wouldn ' t you want to allow for a condo or co-op ownership structure, where the affordable unit -- the apartment is actually owned by the affordable recipient with conditions of approval that it be properly managed . So you put that language in there but maybe there is flexibility there that you ( inaudible ) legislation . I don ' t know that anybody wants to do a condo or a co-op, but in a way May 24, 2022 9 you almost create -- create a ownership by the affordable recipient that they ' re earning equity and it stays in the affordable . Similar to a house in an affordable housing project . As long as its managed that is something that we should consider . I noticed that the law wasn ' t in the Hamlet Density . I know we don ' t have a lot of Hamlet Density . And Hamlet Density allows for multifamily house and other such multifamily units . I don ' t know if that was intentional or you thought -- you were looking for something smaller? I don ' t know . It seemed to be applicable in other smaller district ' s . I guess that was it . I read through it all . I am always in support of use of adding a use in the Zoning District . And I would hope you would just look at it a little more carefully and see if any of the comments that I have and certainly ( inaudible ) . Thank you . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Is there anybody who would like to address the Town Board on this particular Local Law? (No Response ) . May 24, 2022 10 JUSTICE LOUISA EVANS : I make a motion we leave this hearing open because we ' re waiting for Suffolk County Planning Department to get back to us to the next meeting . Hopefully we will have it by then . COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : I would like to take these comments into consideration too . Second . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : The motion is to keep the hearing open because we ' re waiting for comments from the Suffolk County Planning, which have not been received here . We have had to delay hearings as a result of that . They ' re busy too . Just like Southold . I have a second from Jill . All in favor? COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Aye . COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Aye . COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : Aye . JUSTICE LOUISA EVANS : Aye . COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: Aye . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Aye . That is the business of the agenda this evening . Would anybody else like to address May 24, 2022 11 the Town Board on any issue? MS . KATHERINE SEPENOSKI : Katherine Sepenoski . I am appreciative that when I sent the invitation out for the most recent Ag Advisory Committee Meeting that I got the responses back that some of you couldn ' t attend . Thank you for responding . I would like to know if there is a definition in somewhere in this Town Code for farm worker housing? Does it exist? And if it does , what does it read? MR . JOHN BURKE : Don ' t have a formal definition at this time . We ' re working on it . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I don ' t know if we had a reference to an old one . That wouldn ' t be sufficient anyway . MS . KATHERINE SEPENOSKI : So there is something that references farm labor housing? MR . JOHN BURKE : No . It could -- you could say it was incorporated ( Inaudible ) . MS . KATHERINE SEPENOSKI : So the request that we put forth in the Ad Advisory Committee Meeting that you excluded from the May 24, 2022 12 Big House is my issue . That if you ' re going to put it in there and it doesn ' t reference anything, then it ' s meaningless . As an industry because it isn ' t recognized . So if we go to apply for something, we are at the will of who we ' re going to, to interpret what they chose it means . Now I happen to be in an Ag District and I know what -- because I am fairly more restricted in the application for whatever it might be, that I have the right to go to Albany to arbitrate for my right to be upheld . That shouldn ' t have to be the case when you come up with a definition . The Town Attorney is sitting here came up with 5 drafts based on other municipalities and Upstate . And it was signed and not discussed at the work session . Since then, it has been discussed at the committee meeting -- and are you in receipt of the letter from the Ag Advisory Committee? So that was a definition that came directly from the Guidelines from Ag ' s and Markets . And that is the one that would hope you would adopt . So that when you pass a legislation for the Big House, it actually May 24, 2022 13 references something that is recognized and real . I watched these meetings on my own time . In the winter and in the summer, I make it a point to get to every one I can . Because this is my livelihood . It is my life style . I work very hard to craft to be a benefit to the whole community . Not just myself . And there are many hardworking individuals who don ' t attend the meetings , who I think have the same thought and opinion that I just conveyed . That we ' re about community . And I would hope that this Board will not operate in fear of what that definition might mean to somebody who comes into agriculture, who may have more money then the rest of us . So that we ' re penalized for that potential fear of how something might be abused . My invitation to you to attend the meeting, because if we could have had a discussion -- and I hope in the future you can come to a meeting, that New York State Ag ' s and Market also has the ability to accept your review of proposed farm worker housing that you feel might be onus or to the community if its put forth May 24, 2022 14 more than necessary . And they would have to accept yay or nay . Just like we have to accept yay or nay . They are there to help both sides come to the right conclusion . And I reached out to both the Ag ' s and Market ' s and I also reached out on my own behalf . And I am only referencing it right now because I reached out to the Tax Department . My own issue is my own issue . And I will deal with it in my own . What I am referencing is every other grower who may be in need of farm worker housing and their ability to update, modify and fix whatever they have on the property or what they may need to build in order to be viable and continue to contribute to the community . So we had all hoped in the community that this would be something in conjunction with the Local Law for the Big House . And it doesn ' t appear to be working at the same pace . And I question why because I don ' t know what you disklike about it? I know Scott ' s opinion and I honestly don ' t care to hear it again tonight . Because at that last meeting, I was mocked for bringing up and referencing May 24, 2022 15 rants that affect agriculture and housing repairs , that are supported by Suffolk County and the State . And you talk about un resolutions for money that you have for the Town . I was chastised for attending and speaking out and that is absolutely the forum that I am supposed to go to for my industry . To speak on my own behalf, as well as my neighbors who may not even be aware of what is happening . And I was told that I should not speak because the Town Supervisor had important business to discuss with the boy ' s at the table . And that is absolutely unacceptable in any forum in the Town . So I will continue to attend . I will continue to advocate for myself, the other agricultural growers in our community . And I would hope to hear from any of you tonight what your feelings might be about the definition that has been put forward? Because I have only heard one voice so far about what had -- why that definition shouldn ' t be adopted . And it ' s one of the ones that the Town Attorney put forth and it ' s one of the ones that we chose . And it May 24, 2022 16 seems to have more implications and more restrictions than some of the blanket workers who work on the farm. One single sentence versus what incorporates and mirrors exactly the wording in New York State Ag ' s and Markets . Mr . Mealy? COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : I am still gathering some facts on all the things you mentioned . I just want to say that I am sorry you experienced that in that meeting . And that is unacceptable if that occurred . And I think that as citizens we have a voice . And we should be able to speak about the things that are important to us . And I am sorry that happened . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Don ' t apologize on my behalf . She is referencing -- do not apologize on my behalf because everything she just said is simply not true . That is the nice thing about Zoom, I urge anybody to go watch the meeting . COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : I am just speaking for myself . I would not apologize on anyone else ' s behalf . But I am trying to see her as a human being that is obviously May 24, 2022 17 upset . So in that vain, I am apologizing . Not for you . I would never do that . COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: I definitely agree that we need to get that definition on the books . It ' s priority for me . I would like to have the Board do some work on it . And you know, I think John did provide us with a good start about the sample we got and we have not had that discussion and we need to have that discussion . So I urge the Board members to look at those 5 and maybe take bits and pieces or however you feel and get it on . We won ' t be able to do it at the same time as Big House because that ' s already scheduled, but I do hope that we can get it accomplished rather quickly . MS . KATHERINE SEPENOSKI : And given that statement, I don ' t know if it ' s too late to modify the Local Law that you ' re looking to enact which you could exempt agricultural lands unless they ' re in development . Because until there is an actual definition, maybe they should be exempted until there is a definition . May 24, 2022 18 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : We decided to work on that . We ' re committed to making a definition and we will continue to work on that and get it done as soon as possible . Yeah, we talked about that . We ' re having a Public Hearing on the Big House on the 21st . And then you know, so we have time to work on a definition . COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: I would personally like to keep it in there . But I feel like we will get it done . So I would rather have it in legislation . Rather than have us go back and amend for legislation that we just passed . So I think it ' s mu commitment to get the definition in there . MS . KATHERINE SEPENOSKI : And thank you for attending via Zoom, one of the agricultural meetings Councilman Evans . JUSTICE LOUISA EVANS : I agree with what Jill and Sarah said . We ' re working hard to get a definition . COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : The only other thing that I would add is , first, I agree with them. We added the exemption in at your request and at Ag Advisory ' s request May 24, 2022 19 for a fear that it may negatively affect farm labor in the future . And you know, at least to my reading, may not have been necessary but we felt it was important because of the conversations that we had with you, with Ag Advisory, to call that out . So we hope that would be seen as an act of good faith . That we do want to put this in the code . We all support the Big House legislation because we have worked with you on this . You know, it won ' t come up against more objections that are coming later . It ' s really important that we get this Big House legislation on the books . The previous Town Board was working on it before Brian and I came on . So it ' s something that we ' re looking forward to getting on the books . So we can tackle these issues that you ' re raising . Whether it ' s with farm labor housing in particular or more generally Chapter 70 . But I think it ' s worth -- that we do get Big House on the books and keep moving forward . Because there is a lot of important things that we need to address . Thank you . May 24, 2022 20 MS . KATHERINE SEPENOSKI : I just want to close what it is to be a farmer . And what it is that I just witnesses this last weekend . There is a ( inaudible ) year old walking around on our farm and he set up his farm stand display . The opening of the farm stand . He wrote out what he wanted to on his board . He wanted to educate people about the rocks that are on his farm and why they ' re important to him. But it was his moment to learn about how he places himself in front of the community with respect . And with his desire to engage with them. He also walks around with his father and carried trays of vegetables this past weekend . He is just engaged in everything on this farm. "What are you doing, Jaugi (phonetic) ? I am working on this hose to connect these hoses for irrigation . " He ' s learning about coupling things and plumbing . And just everything under the sun . And that is just what inspires me to stay in it . We can lose in this community and I hope that you do follow through and this comes to pass . Regardless of whether this is my May 24, 2022 21 family or your family, the only way that we ' re going to keep agriculture going is if we have people on the farm to help . It ' s non-existence . Thank you for listening . Really appreciate it . COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Thank you for coming before us . MR . DUNN : Robert Dunn, Peconic . First since the last meeting, I would like to thank Sarah for the Stop Sign that appeared on my corner a week before . Today, the subject of the police station and court house came up . I do not question at all the need for a court house . I think the musical chairs that goes on in here for lunch is a musical embarrassment . And certainly our police station, but I have been through parts of it and certainly our police station would need some new parts to it . I just -- that is a total of 37 , 000 square feet to that was proposed today . Equivalent to the millions that was mentioned, the police station was 30 and the courthouse was 6 . I am totally against using recreational property to either ever . I think that is May 24, 2022 22 walking backwards . If it needs to go into Peconic, and that ' s the only place, then fine, put it there . That piece of land, I believe is too small . You ' re talking about 37 , 000 square feet of space on a property of about 70 , 000 . You got 37 , 000 of building . You need parking . You need sidewalks and whatever else you will be putting . And plus you are putting it on a side road . I don ' t think it ' s a good idea on Peconic Lane . I would not think it ' s a good idea on Wickham. You go on Peconic Lane, there is a lot of traffic as it is . You ' re just going to add more . I think the people that live on Peconic Lane are just treated unfairly . We already have a number of crowds besides the garage . As you know, we have a couple of businesses there that use the parking on the street and it ' s unfair to dump it in on place . It ' s just -- and like I said, I think it ' s really foolish to use recreational space . Once that is gone, it ' s gone . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : I wouldn ' t know . May 24, 2022 23 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : I do think in an ideal world, we don ' t put it on recreational land . The issue is , where else do we locate it? The grand -- MR . DUNN : 54 square miles in Southold . COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : In the grand scheme of things , if we ' re spending 30 plus million dollars and add in another million or two million is not going to make or break the project . The problem is , in this last month or so, in speaking with real estate folks , there is not a lot of land out there that would meet our needs . MR . DUNN : We ' re working on a million dollars in taking a piece of property in Mattituck . So there is ways -- if you came to that, there is ways to do it . If you ' re just doing that and don ' t have all the beauty, I totally agree with that . What I am saying, we could do somewhere in this Town . COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : One thing we also thought about is a public portion comment process . To bring everybody through May 24, 2022 24 the history of what brought us to this moment and why the Town Board is heading to this direction . You know, also gives the individual other ideas . I think that during this process , it did raise the need for the police station and let us help group it together with the court house and group it together . MR . DUNN : Nothing wrong with that process . COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Guess what I am saying is , in that same vain, let ' s discuss how we can make this better? MR . DUNN : Do we understand that when we limit recreation space that we in fact down the road may need more courts and police? COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Absolutely . One of the other things that we talked about, if we relocate all the other components of the police station to Peconic Lane, and we end of demolishing the police station, maybe that can become a park . It ' s an option . MR . DUNN : That was already May 24, 2022 25 discussed . No . That would become a driveway for the Town . That is already out there . COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : I am saying, we have been talking about these issues and the need for recreational space . I see our role as balancing the interests together . Yes , speaking for myself, yes , I want more recreation space . I don ' t want to take recreational space away . MR . DUNN : That ' s what we ' re doing . COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : But we also have real needs for municipal buildings . MR . DUNN : No . We bought one on the corner and now we ' re not going to use it . Personally, I think that would be a fine court house . I am without a doubt the only person in the room who has ever build a courthouse . COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : So you ' re volunteering to help us ? MR . DUNN : I am just saying been there and done that . COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : I know . We talked about it . MR . DUNN : You put an extension on May 24, 2022 26 that building too . The Town has already spent $3 million dollars . You made a valid point, you also had 20 people that were working in it and you didn ' t buy it, they would be working in the street . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : If you put Cassone trailers in the back as temporary offices , they would still be there . MR . DUNN : No . I understand the need for the rest of the building . COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : I guess the issue here is then we are still left with the need for the police station . And you raise the issue, can they both fit there? I don ' t know . The Town Engineer told us we could and we ' re going to look at it . This is part of this process of education and also gathering public input . This is the direction that we ' re heading it . But I look forward to your suggestions and the publics suggestions on how to make this a better less expensive -- MR . DUNN : I don ' t like to wait to till the end to put my two cents in . But even in the short time you have been here, May 24, 2022 27 you realize that . COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Absolutely . And I hope you know we appreciate it . MR . DUNN : Even today, I was surprised to see the discussion come up about speed signs and I made that suggestion 5 years ago . Before -- before the Board received that . I am not afraid of making noise because sometimes I feel good when I do . It turns out that maybe somebody else can have the same idea . COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : And I appreciate the input . I appreciate the conversations that we have had about this individual subject . MR . DUNN : I am going to stand real hard in taking -- and I think if you went out and you will find kids are involved, if they get involved, you will find that the public would rather find recreation space over the importance of court houses or police station . If you were to go down that street right now, you probably wouldn ' t be able to drive fast . I mean, just because of the use that street gets in the park . May 24, 2022 28 COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : To be clear, we are not taking the park that is being used . MR . DUNN : You ' re taking recreational space . That field gets used . That field gets used a lot by -- specifically for the Latino company . They use it for a soccer field . Everything is else is baseball and tennis . I am not going to beat it up . I don ' t like to argue . I am just totally against it, strictly that it ' s recreational space . If you were buying one of the wineries there and said we ' re going to put it there, has to go somewhere . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Pat? MS . PATRICIA MOORE : Sorry . Just a quick question . You were mentioning the proposed law regarding house size . Has there been any work shop? I have pulled the law . I admit, my plan is to grab a couple of different properties and -- but when I read it, it was like, Oh, just a mind twister . Is there any -- I mean, you all decided for putting it on for legislative hearing . Anybody explain it to me so that I May 24, 2022 29 can not spend several hours reading and trying to apply it? I must -- I am probably not the only one, but as you can see the interest on legislative changes baffles me . Very interested in this one and how it ' s going to impact properties . COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: We were talking about including a chart . Similar to the way that the schedule reads but this would have a whole column to include the max sizes for each of the parcel sixes . Max house size for the parcel sizes . MS . PATRICIA MOORE : Almost like what the DEC does as a visual where -- or even like the highway specs . Give you a little visual . And it would be okay, if you have a lot size, you can go as high as this and this way -- COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: It wouldn ' t be like that . It would be like in a chart . Similar to the way the ( inaudible ) max size of this . If you have 1 /2 an acre, you have this size . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Gross including the garage . Not just livable . As May 24, 2022 30 Councilwoman Nappa explained, there is going to be a text component but the visual or the figure, those we ' re trying to get done and be handed out . Sort of like a cheat understanding of the code . MS . PATRICIA MOORE : Is that going to be before the Public Hearing? SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : We ' re going to try . MS . PATRICIA MOORE : That is the problem. We ' re all adopting -- really I have a serious problem. Either making a comment or supporting a proposed law change where I don ' t know how it ' s being applied . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : All of the drafts that we had, were all noticed and out to the public sector . So it ' s not like there is images that haven ' t already been done and have been distributed publicly . So those are Code Committee Meetings . COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : You can get the whole text from the Clerks ' Office MS . PATRICIA MOORE : No . I have the text . May 24, 2022 31 COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : The chart should be there . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : If we ' re talking about images and things , those were distributed as products at Code Committee meetings . COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : The Civic Associations did drawings . As Sarah explained it, in the Public Hearing we decided to do it as a chart . So that is included in the text . MS . PATRICIA MOORE : I will look for it again . I will scroll a little better . I was reading the text -- SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : And we tried to make the text as simplified as possible . And believe it or not, that was simplified from earlier versions . It ' s so difficult to take something like that and make it so succinct so people can read it . It ' s hard . It was hard . We tried . MS . PATRICIA MOORE : I give you credit for trying . COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Is that on the record? May 24, 2022 32 MS . PATRICIA MOORE : I always try . ( Public Comments Concluded, followed by a Moment of Silence . ) COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Motion to adjourn . COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : Second . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : All in favor? COUNCILMAN GREG DOROSKI : Aye . COUNCILWOMAN JILL DOHERTY : Aye . COUNCILMAN BRIAN MEALY : Aye . JUSTICE LOUISA EVANS : Aye . COUNCILWOMAN SARAH NAPPA: Aye . SUPERVISOR SCOTT RUSSELL : Aye . (Meeting Concluded . ) May 24, 2022 33 C E R T I F I C A T I O N I , JESSICA DILALLO, a Court Reporter and Notary Public, for and within the State of New York, do hereby certify : THAT the above and foregoing contains a true and correct transcription of the Meeting held on May 24 , 2022 , via videoconference , and were transcribed by me . I further certify that I am not related to any of the parties to this action by blood or by marriage and that I am in no way interested in the outcome of this matter . IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this 10th day of June, 2022 . r I M--0--Z �� essica DiLallo