HomeMy WebLinkAboutTR-02/26/2003Albert J. Krupski, President
James King, Vice-President
Az~tie Foster
Ken Poliwoda
Peggy. A. Dickerson
Town Hall
53095 Route 25
P.O. Box 1179
Southold, New York 11971-0959
Telephone (631) 765-1892
Fax (631) 765-1366
BOARD OF TOWN TRUSTEES
TOWN OFSOUTHOLD
MINUTES
Wednesday, February 26, 2003
7:00 PM
PRESENT WERE:
ABSENT WAS:
Albert J. Krupski, Jr., President
James King, Vice-President
Kenneth Poliwoda, Trustee
Peggy Dickerson, Trustee
E. Brownell Johnston, Legal Advisor
Lauren M. Standish, Senior-Clerk
Artie Foster, Trustee
CALL MEETING TO ORDER
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
NEXT FIELD INSPECTION: Tuesday, March 11,2003 at 8:00 AM
TRUSTEE DICKERSON moved to Approve, TRUSTEE KING seconded. ALL
AYES
NEXT TRUSTEE MEETING: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 at 7:00 PM
WORKSESSION: 6:00 PM
TRUSTEE POLIWODA moved to Approve, TRUSTEE DICKERSON seconded.
ALL AYES
APPROVE MINUTES: Approve Minutes of January 22, 2003. (unavailable)
MONTHLY REPORT: The Trustees monthly report for January 2003. A
check for $7,581.57 was forwarded to the Supervisor's Office for the
General Fund.
II. PUBLIC NOTICES: Public Notices are posted on the Town Clerk's
Bulletin Board for review.
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AMEN DMENTSNVAIVERS/CHANGES:
GARY GERNS requests an Amendment to Permit #5572 to construct a
new single-family residential dwelling with a 40' front yard setback on
vacant land. Located: 1680 Brigantine Dr., Southold. SCTM#79-4-25
(MORATORIUM-Table)
PAUL NAHAS requests an Amendment to Permit #5622 to allow for
alterations to new residential building/construction plan on vacant land to
include approx. 850 cy. of clean fill to raise parts of building floor to 8' to
meet FEMA requirements. Located: Critten's & Beachwood Lane,
Southold. SCTM#70-12-17
(MORATORIUM-Table)
Garrett A. Strang, Architect on behalf of WILLIAM SEIFERT requests an
Amendment to Permit #5589 to include a stone parking area to the east
of the existing driveway. Located: 7145 Soundview Ave., Southold.
SCTM#59-6-3
TRUSTEE POLIWODA moved to Approve the application with the
condition that the parking area will never be paved. TRUSTEE
DICKERSON seconded. ALL AYES
Garrett A. Strang, Architect on behalf of NANCY CARROLL requests an
Amendment to Permit #5481 to modify and reconstruct the existing deck
with a new configuration, increasing the setback from the existing
bulkhead, to construct a second-floor addition over the existing dwelling,
and for an addition of a new garage on the northeast corner of the
premises. Located: 350 West Lake Dr., Southold. SCTM#90-1-21
TRUSTEE KING moved to Approve the application with the condition
that drywells and gutters are installed to contain the roof run-off.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA seconded. ALL AYES
William A. DiConza, Esq. on behalf of SHAWN & JOLYNE
FITZGERALD requests a Waiver to erect an open split-rail fence within
100' of Wolf Pit Lake. Located: 495 Paddock Way, Mattituck.
SCTM#107-7-2
POSTPONED UNTIL MARCH
JOAN McDONALD requests a One-Year Extension to Permit #5287 to
construct a single-family residential dwelling. Permit will expire 2/21/03.
Located: 705 Bayshore Rd., Greenport. SCTM#53-3-9
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI moved to Approve with the application with the
condition that the restoration of the buffer and the cutting of the
phragmites is removed from the permit and will have to be applied for
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under a separate application with a specific site plan. TRUSTEE
POLIWODA seconded. ALL AYES
Proper-T Permit Services, Inc. on behalf of MICHAEL CARBONE
requests a One-Year Extension to Permit #5293 to demolish the existing
wood frame house and construct new wood frame house with septic
system, if required, deck, and attached two-car garage. Permit will expire
2/21/03. Located: 1580 North Bayview Rd., Southold. SCTM#70-12-34
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI moved to Approve the application with the
condition that gutters and drywells are installed to contain the roof run-
off. TRUSTEE POLIWODA seconded. ALL AYES
Proper-T Permit Services on behalf of SALT LAKE ASSOCIATION
requests a One-Year Extension to Permit #5133 to remove and replace
in the same location 145'+/- of existing retaining wall; remove and
replace in the same location 115'+/~ of existing bulkhead; remove and
replace in the same location 1345'+/- of existing decking between the
bulkhead and the retaining wall. Remove and replace in the same
location two sets of stairs. Remove any fill that enters the waterway and
replace it behind the bulkhead or retaining wall. Fill as necessary behind
the bulkhead and retaining wall to maintain established grades using an
estimated 30 cy. of spoil from an associated separately permitted
dredging activity and establish a 10' non-turf buffer. Located: Old Salt
Rd., Mattituck. SCTM#144-5-19
TRUSTEE KING moved to Approve the application, TRUSTEE
POLIWODA seconded. ALL AYES
TRUSTEE DICKERSON moved to go off the Regular Meeting and onto the
Public Hearings, TRUSTEE KING seconded. ALL AYES
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING IN THE MATTER OF THE FOLLOWING
APPLICATIONS FOR PERMITS UNDER THE WETLANDS ORDINANCE
OF THE TOWN OF SOUTHOLD. I HAVE AN AFFIDAVIT OF
PUBLICATION FROM THE TRAVELER WATCHMAN. PERTINENT
CORRESPONDENCE MAY BE READ PRIOR TO ASKING FOR
COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS ORGANIZED AND BRIEF.
FIVE (5) MINUTES OR LESS IF POSSIBLE
MARLENE & ARCHER ISRAEL request a Wetland Permit to construct an
addition to the existing dwelling and the construction of a new deck.
Located: 660 Howard Ave., Mattituck. SCTM#113-9-3
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TRUSTEE KING: Is there anyone here who would like to comment on this
application? I looked at this and it's pretty straight-forward. It's an
expansion of the home. I didn't have a problem with it. It just needs some
gutters and drywells. If there is no comment, I'll make a motion to close
the hearing.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Seconded. ALL AYES
TRUSTEE KING: I'll make a motion to Approve the application with the
condition that gutters and drywells are installed to contain the roof run-off.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: Seconded. ALL AYES
J & C HOLDINGS, LP requests a Wetland Permit to add a 39.8'X 33'
addition to the existing 20.4'X 26.4' residence. Located: 19625
Soundview Ave., Southold. SCTM#51-1-22.2
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: Is there anyone who would like to comment on
this application?
GAlL WICKHAM: Good evening, I am here for the applicant, who couldn't
be here this evening. If you have any questions, or need specific
information, I would be glad to try and tell you.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: Would anyone else like to comment on this
application?
PAUL LANCY: I'm the neighbor to the west. The only question I have is
that there is a bulkhead down on the beach that's in a poor state of
condition. I was just curious as to what the intention is for that bulkhead
since I just put in, throe years ago, a brand new bulkhead, and with the
erosion of that bulkhead, that would potentially take down my new
bulkhead.
GAlL WICKHAM: The bulkhead to the extent it needs repair, would be
addressed, not in this application. We would need a separate application.
But, I'm sure the owner would want to maintain the bulkhead's integrity if
that need be. I don't think there is any question about that.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKh That's normal. They wouldn't let their bulkhead go
because it would put their house in jeopardy.
PAUL LANCY: So, your word is good as gold?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: It's not my bulkhead.
PAUL LANCY: Well aren't you supposed to protect the wetlands?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Absolutely.
GAlL WICKHAM: I'm willing to state for the record that, upon construction,
and obtaining all of the approvals for the rosidence, the bulkhead would be
looked at in terms of what needs to be done to make it an integral...in
good shape.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKh Not only the wetlands, but as par~ of Chapter 97,
Wetlands Code, you can't do anything to destabilize your neighbor's
property.
GAlL WICKHAM: There is a very well vegetated stable bluff hero. It's
certainly in everyone's interest to protect it. I'm sure they would do that
and I'm willing to state that on the record.
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TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is the Board satisfied with that?
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: Yes.
PAUL LANCY: If you stated that for the record and if you're comfortable
with that, I'm comfortable with that.
GAlL WICKHAM: J&C, I want to clarify, is not at this point the owner.
They are the contract vendee. I cannot speak for the owner but they are
certainly interested in acquiring the property and upon doing do and
obtaining permits would address the bulkhead.
PAUL LANCY: I didn't understand. They didn't buy the property yet?
GAlL WICKHAM: They are under contract to purchase it. So, I'm not
representing that on behalf of the current owner.
PAUL LANCY: The intended owner.
GAlL WlCKHAM: Yes.
PAUL LANCY: For the record that they're going to repair it then I'm
comfortable with that. That's on the record?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Yes.
PAUL LANCY: Thank you.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: Would anyone else like to comment on this
hearing? Board?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Gutters and drywells.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: I see we have notes for hay bales.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Do you think we need that? It's sloping up.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: I thought it was sloping up.
GAlL WICKHAM: It slopes down from the bluff.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: We mean sloping up from the project.
GAlL WlCKHAM: Yes, sloping up from the project.
TRUSTEE POLiWODA: If there is no other comment, I'll make a motion to
close the hearing.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Seconded. ALL AYES
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: I'll make a motion to Approve the application with
the addition of drywells and gutters.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Seconded. ALL AYES
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: They will have to be shown on the plan.
GAlL WICKHAM: Okay.
GLENN F. HEIDTMANN, JR. requests a Wetland Permit to construct a
new single-family dwelling and garage on vacant land. Located: 600
Albacore Dr., Southold. SCTM#57-1-21
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Is there anyone here who would like to speak on
this application?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Does anyone have any concern over this
application? Mr. Heidtmann came into our worksession and explained all
of this to us. I don't want to hold everyone up for another 10 minutes.
E. BROWNELL JOHNSTON: Do you have anything different than what
you said to us a half an hour ago?
GLENN HEIDTMANN: No.
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TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: If there is no comment, we'll make a motion to
postpone it.
TRUSTEE KING: We'll look at it next field inspection.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: If there are no other comments, 1'11 make a
motion to postpone this hearing.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: Seconded. ALL AYES
JOHN J. GALLAGHER requests a Wetland Permit for the existing 8'X 16'
dock. Located: 700 Bayview Dr., East Marion. SCTM#37-5-4
POSTPONED UNTIL MARCH AS PER THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST
JEFFREY HALLOCK requests a Wetland Permit to cut into ground of
right-of-way for installation of underground utilities, permission to cut base
of existing dirt roadway to upgrade with stone materials, and for the
proposed driveway landward of the right-of-way. Located: Diachun Rd.,
Laurel. SCTM#127-3-9.1
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: There are two things, before I start the hearing and
take comments, if there will be any. There are two items on this
application before I start. One is, we just received word this evening, that
the Town Attorney is reserving the decision on the moratorium on this so
nothing has been decided but he said he wants to reserve decision. Also,
just to re-coup, at the last month's meeting, a letter finally went out this
week, basically putting in writing what was requested at the last meeting
which was a letter from the Planning Board, stating, under the current
zoning, what is the total build-out of this area and then under the current
Town standards, what would the road be required by the Town, for this
area, so that we can make a decision based on what this road was going
to look like if it's going to be...in this location, what this road is going to be
required to be by current Town standards, and that's what we requested at
the last month's meeting. Now, I'll open the public hearing for anyone in
favor of or against the application.
HARVEY ARNOFF: I'd like to address briefly your comments because that
is not what your letter said. I think that's maybe, first of all, a threshold
problem. What you want, and I'm not certain that we are in a position to
gather and get that type of an advisory opinion in kind of a vacuum from
the Planning Board. So, I don't know if this is an invitation to being put in
the neverlands of never getting an answer from the Planning Board
because I'm not so sure it will come. If I wrote to them and said, how many
lots can you build on this right-of-way all along, that presupposes a lot of
things. It presupposes that anybody is ever going to build on it other than
my client. It presupposes things that I don't know we or the Planning
Board can address and under existing zoning, I'm not sure they're going to
answer that because there are too many variables and they are all out of
the control of my client. In reality, all that happened here was that there
was, and by way of history, I think I really have to lay this out for the Board
tonight, that the history of this property is that there was a substantial
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amount of family litigation. Barbara Diachun, who is our grantor, one of
our grantors, is here tonight to address that. This right-of-way existed
certainly, I think her testimony will be for 40 years. It hasn't changed. It
exists. It's narrowed by virtue of some overgrowth but it has existed. I
have for the Board a 1977 aerial photograph, dated April of 1977 because
I recall at our last meeting there was some issue as to whether or not this
right-of-way existed. The Board can review this, and anyone else who
wants to, and you will find, in your deliberations, that the right-of-way is
depicted very clearly on this particular photo. 1 would offer that up at this
point.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Thank you.
HARVEY ARNOFF: The history was that there was litigation ongoing, and
before they settled the litigation, they came to the Zoning Board of
Appeals for approval of an application. The Zoning Board of Appeals,
according to Ms. Diachun, sent them back to court, to say you've got to
have a description of what the right-of-way is going to be. It was ultimately
determined in that litigation that this was the right-of-way and the access
to the property. The Zoning Board of Appeals gave 280A approval and I
think you should have a copy of that Zoning Board of Appeals decision
and if you don't, I have one for you. Do you have it in your file? It's a
decision dated January 18, 2001.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: We do, thank you.
HARVEY ARNOFF: Having said that, I would call the Board's attention to
the application, which was very similar, that you approved for Lisa Edson,
on Main Bayview Rd., which dealt with a pervious, not an impervious road,
in the wetlands, and the widening of that to establish 280A approval. The
Board has already established a precedent for approving this.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: There is a difference.
HARVEY ARNOFF: Well every piece is different.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I don't see where it's a precedent.
HARVEY ARNOFF: Reasonable people would disagree. But having said
that, it is our position that this particular application should be granted.
There is no logical reason to deny it. Now let me just add additional
components. We could go back to the Zoning Board of Appeals and say,
we would like to leave the road as it is and build the property. Give us a
variance to leave it the way it is. That's a possibility. If we're faced with
that, we could do that. But the Board's request, and I believe, by the way,
my client would jump at the opportunity to embrace your request, and the
last sentence, the Board would like the right-of-way somewhere else, so
would we. But, we can't make it happen. We don't own the contiguous
parcels. We have no relationship with the contiguous parcels and inquiries
have been made and we are told that no one is inclined to sell us or to
make any changes. I wanted to address that because I know that was the
concern of this Board the last time we were here.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Only because we would like to see if all options...
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HARVEY ARNOFF: And I for one, and I know my client joins in this, would
love to be able to do that. But ultimately, and I don't know what, and
maybe the Board...I think the Board would be in a better position to
request of the Planning Board, what their opinion would be if that is what
this Board wishes to do. But to request that we get that from the Planning
Board I think is a request that they are not going to respond to because
we have nothing pending in front of them. I don't know whether this Board
would be inclined to make the request directly of the Planning Board. If
they're asking for information about property surrounding an application
that's not my client's property, perhaps the Planning Board would be more
apt, in a more efficient fashion to reply to you rather than to myself.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Does anyone have any problem with that?
HARVEY ARNOFF: So if that's a concern and I'm not so sure it's an
appropriate concern, but if it is a concern, I don't know what that ultimately
has with the ultimate decision making process, one way or another. We're
not looking to change anything. We want the surface to remain the same.
All we want to do is widen it to comply with the Zoning Board's direction. I
don't want to be faced with a condemnation situation where we can't do
anything.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I don't think we suggested that. I think we're just
trying to get all the information.
HARVEY ARNOFF: I certainly am not looking to prevent that but I think
that certainly this Board would be in a better position to obtain that
information than we would. Other than that, 1 think 1 addressed the last
time all the positions my client has in this regard and I don't want to bore
this Board with my repeating it.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there any other comment?
HARVEY ARNOFF: I believe Ms. Diachun is here.
BARBARA DIACHUN: I'm Barbara Diachun and my mother Rose
Diachun sold this property to Jeff Hallock last year and I am very familiar
with this property. It was owned by father Leo Diachun and my
grandmother for over 40 years and also we lived at one time on Peconic
Bay Blvd. at the house right west of this right-of-way. This right-of-way
always was where it is along Brushes Creek. I know that from my own
knowledge plus from what different relatives have said. It always was
there and we never moved it or changed it. We just did a little bit of work
on it to repair pot holes and to cut back branches. We did go to the
Zoning Board of Appeals to get 280A approval. They wanted us to get a
meets and bounds description establishing it. We then went to the
Supreme Court of the State of New York and the Court established the
right-of-way, where it is along Brushes Creek, because it was proven to
them that's where it had always existed. So then we went back to the
Zoning Board of Appeals and go the 280A approval and the right-of-way
was always where it is along Brushes Creek. Thank you.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Anyone else?
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MATTHEW ATKINSON: I'm representing members of the community who
are opposing the placement of this road. In addition to the need to
establish the potential usage of this road, because in fact it does serve
about nearly 30 acres of undeveloped property, and once it becomes
established, if there are any other houses developed, which there certainly
may be, they will tend to want to use the same road and as they go in for
approval from the ZBA, the road will be looked at over and over again. So,
I think it's a completely legitimate request on the part of the Board. It's
also highlighted by the fact that the ZBA, when they authorized this road
as acCess for the lot in question, they authorized this road all the way up
to property shown as Ronald Diachun's property and all the way down to
Peconic Bay Blvd. serving this entire parcel. Why they granted
authorization to develop this road, or indeed required it, north and south of
what's now Mr. Hallock's property is completely unclear, but clearly by a
request of the Diachun family at the time to rationalize this whole property
for future development. In regards to the applicability of the moratorium,
the moratorium prohibits any new residences or structures on vacant land.
I believe that this road is part in parcel of a residence and is a structure.
Structure is not defined specifically in the Town wetlands law but if you
look at operations, it first talks about the placement of fill, the removal of
fill, and then the construction of any other things like piers, houses,
bulkhead, docks, or other structures, and clearly a road would be another
structure if you ran it through a wetland. Likewise, it would be a structure if
you ran it through the buffer zone of a wetland. So, what we are looking at
here is a structure, which is part of a residential development, which is
presently vacant, and I believe it does fall under the moratorium. I don't
have the survey in front of me but I can get it. I looked at another survey
of this property that showed the conditions as is and it does show a
traveled track here within the right-of-way where they are seeking to
develop into a permanent road. They also show two other tracks. One
that wanders through the middle of the property and one that wanders
through the east end of the property. Clearly these are more or less farm
roads operated by a family and their trucks are there are more than one.
To say that Mr. Hallock is unable to relocate this road is perhaps true. On
the other hand, the property to the north of his, that would be land-locked
if this road did not go through, is also Eleanor Diachun, who owns the
property to the south of this. So, her interests and Mr. Hallocks interests
are directly alive. If she ever wants to get to her property to the north, this
road has to go through, if she ever wishes to develop it, or she has to find
another route to get there.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Thank you. Any other comment?
MATTHEW ATKINSON: I had just one final comment, I'm sorry. When
they say that they could just try and use the road as is, without further
improvements, this goes back to the structure problem. They need to run
utilities as part of their application. Whether they are underground utilities
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or over the ground utilities, they are going to be running utilities along this
area and that will also require this Boards approval. Thank you.
RONALD DIACHUN: I have the last lot on the property. The only way I
can get to my lot is through the original right-of-way. Otherwise I'm land-
locked. You can see that on the map. Unless I go to North Oakwood Dr.,
which I own Property there, and build another bridge. Thank you.
HARVEY ARNOFF: Mr. Krupski and members of the Board, I just want to
address two things. One, we're not looking to establish a road. I don't
know where anybody gets that. We have a right-of-way. We're looking to
keep the right-of-way and only make it in conformity with the Zoning Board
of Appeals approval. When counsel stood up and said "once this is
established", it is established. We're not looking to establish anything
that's not already there. Finally, and I think this Board is familiar with the
fact, I don't know of any other attorney other than Mr. Angell, who has
dwelled as long as I have over the past four years on the definition of what
is a structure. There is a 38' high sculpture in this town that has been the
subject of what is a structure. I can tell this Board that there is no way
under any stretch of any definition that I have been able to secure under
any applicable zoning, Websters, or any definitive sources that a road
would be a structure. It is not a structure. Sure, if we build an "L", or if we
built some elevated thing, perhaps then. This is not a structure and I don't
want this Board to try to confuse...I don't want to muddy the issues with
that. We're not looking to create any structures in any wetlands. The
house is built solely and completely outside the necessary jurisdictional
limit of the wetlands and the wetlands moratorium. Thank you.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I only have one comment and the Board can make
any comments. It's our responsibility as a Board to protect the resources
of the Town, and in this case, the adjacent wetland areas. So, if we don't
explore every alternative, and a lot of times the applicant isn't aware of
alternatives, as far as moving the right-of-way and such and such, and
you've given us more information about that, which we've asked for. The
reason we want to know how many lots could be built there is because we
want to know ultimately what is the other Town agencies going to require
as far as the final size of the driveway. When you mentioned the Edson
application, there have been others also, long driveways adjacent to
wetlands, freshwater and saltwater. In the two cases I can think of, I think
the Board made some pretty good decisions. We have had similar
situations where it's possible to have access near the wetlands and not
impact the wetlands.
HARVEY ARNOFF: We are prepared to do anything that this Board
directs us to do within the confines of what we have, by way of deed or
other grant. I think I can do more than to say that if the Board directs us to
do certain things, we're prepared to do them in accordance with what is
reasonable.
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TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: But we just want to make sure we don't miss
something and if we seem to be slow, we're actually trying to be deliberate
and to not miss something.
HARVEY ARNOFF: I'm not looking to rush the Board.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: It's a little more complicated than your normal
application for someone to put a deck on the side of their house.
HARVEY ARNOFF: Absolutely.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: It deserves the time to be looked at.
HARVEY ARNOFF: I understand what the Board is doing as far as the
build ability and whatever of the contiguous parcels. It's just that I think
that I hope you don't feel that I'm trying to pass the buck but I really think
under the circumstances, I think you're in a better position than I am.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: No problem with making that request.
MATTHEW ATKINSON: I just wanted to clarify the point about the
applicability of the moratorium. That's only one argument. The road is also
a critical part of the development of the house. You can't have a house
without the road any more than you can have it without the driveway or the
utilities running to it. As such, it is a residential development that is before
the Board. Secondly, I would like to just emphasize that this isn't just any
wetlands. This is a critical environmental area and the courts have long
given our Boards greater latitude in their scrutiny of these areas and as a
final matter, Mr. Hallock is a sophisticated builder in this area. He has built
part of my house, in fact, and did a very good job. He enters into this land,
and this property, knowing full well what the regulations are, knowing that
this is subject to this Board's approval and looking at the ZBA approval, it
says this is subject to this Board's approval. To the extend that there is a
hardship, he entered into it knowingly and if the Board doesn't choose to
approve the road in the other place, I believe that they can solve the
problem but if they can't, it's his own hardship and his own speculation.
Thank you.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Thank you. Any other comments? I'll make a
motion to Table the application.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Seconded. ALL AYES
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: This Board will find out from the Planning Board
about road specifications and whatnot. Ultimately, if this is
determined...and now as I said before, the Town Attorney has reserved
the right to review this under the moratorium. So there are two scenarios.
One, it's not. In which case, we proceed with the information we have.
Two, it is, in which case you have to wait, but even if it is under the
moratorium, we urge everyone who has a project that falls under the
moratorium, to do all their homework. Don't wait for the moratorium to end
to start up again.
HARVEY ARNOFF: I'm going to assume, albeit that's a poor choice of
words, that this is not subject to the moratorium. I would just ask the
Board if I could secure a copy of any response that you may get from the
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Planning Board so I can keep some kind of a timetable on this. That's the
only thing I would ask.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Absolutely.
MATTHEW ATKINSON: I have asked repeatedly, but I just feel like I
better make the statement again, but if your envisioning this road along
this entire length, all the way from Peconic Bay Blvd., the survey ought to
show that and it ought to show where the wetlands are in relation to the
road.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: We didn't want. to get into that next step of
physically defining the right-of-way in the field and then physically
delineating the proposed improvements to the right-of-way in the field. If
we come to that step saying "yes, the right-of-way is going to be here, the
driveway is going to be here" and it's not covered under the moratorium,
then the next step is to say that we want to see it staked out exactly where
the right-of-way is and where the improvements are going to be in the
field. Drainage and whatnot is going to be addressed at that stage. That's
the next step, to see it physically in the field.
HARVEY ARNOFF: I have a survey, I'm not sure that you have it, and I
think it's the only copy that we have, which really does delineate the
survey, that 50' wide strip, if you would like that.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: We have that, thank you. What Matt had just
mentioned, it's determined that the right-of-way is 100% going to be here,
and its going to be "X" amount of feet wide, than that is going to be staked
in the field so we can review it in the field, then we can look at it for further
considerations, at that point.
HARVEY ARNOFF: That's fine. I agree. If you recall, we were.., the only,
and I hate to use the word improvements, but the only change that we
were seeking to what exists today was going to be on the landward side of
what exists there. There was going to be no change on the creek-side at
all. So we were not disturbing that at all.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Thank you.
B. Laing Associates, Inc. on behalf of INGER BOYAJIAN requests a
Wetland & Coastal Erosion Permit to renovate the house, deck, and
bulkhead within the existing footprint. Located: 2400 Bay Ave., East
Marion, SCTM#31-16-8
TRUSTEE KING: Is there anyone here who wishes to comment on this
application?
BRIAN VILLANTI: Good evening. We met in the field a couple of times
and I talked to Jim the other day and I kind of think we had a meeting of
the minds in regards to this. It was just a little bit questionable about where
that bulkhead should actually be. Mr. Bonchi here form B. Laing
Associates, he just had a drawing, and I would like to show it to you.
MIKE BONCHI: For the record, I am the President of B. Laing Associates.
As I understand the status of the agreement yourself and Mr. Villanti have
been talking about is to basically bring the bulkhead, or the edge of the
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deck, as we propose the edge of the fill, to the northern end of the ramp,
the boat ramp that is adjacent on Bay Ave. Additionally, the jetty that
occurs to the west side of the property would be made into a Iow-profile
jetty as opposed to what it is now. The only think I just wanted to show
the Board was a drawing that I came up with and it's just in regard to
(inaudible) the engineering principles relating to the boat ramp. In the
aerial photograph from 1993 that we provided, we have an indication of
the northern end of the boat ramp and the southern edge of the deck.
Actually, the southern edge of the deck was extended 3'-4' beyond the
northern end of the boat ramp at that time in 1993. Right now what you're
proposing is to bring that southern edge of the deck right to the northern
edge. I just have a concern that over time, particularly if we take down the
jetty, which, if you take the left hand column as you're looking at it and go
from the top to the bottom, what's going to happen is we're going to lose
some sand on the beach in the front, some material on the front beach.
Then, there's going to be nothing. So, what I'm asking is for this Board to
consider one last time the concept of some kind of overlap with that boat
ramp joint. Even it's just a foot and a half. Enough to prevent that from
being an absolute corner, and also provide for any fill materials that goes
in behind the bulkhead would then be the structural material that would
hold the boat ramp up, which is where the boat ramp wants to rest right
now. These are some photographs from October 'into November of this
year. We went there in October and the street was fine but by the time I
went back in November, December, you'll notice that this is the corner
right here, and also in this one you'll see how the material has been
excavated out behind. The waves are coming in and reflecting around it.
What I'm afraid of by having an even joint like this is that you'll wind up
eventually in the same circumstance. You'll get material behind and there
is nothing to hold material in there once the water gets behind the
bulkhead that will run up along Bay Ave. However, if you provide a little
bit of overlap, even a foot and a half, what you do is you prevent that from
being just a butted joint. In other words, you have an overlap on the joint,
and then, I prefer a full 3'. The more material you have against that boat
ramp the better. But even a foot and a half I think will improve that
situation beyond what I think is going to happen now, particularly if you're
going to be cutting the jetty down. That's going to lose some material from
that.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: For some reason, some jetties were built really tall,
for no reason, because they couldn't possibly trap sand at that height.
MIKE BONCHI: That's true.
TRUSTEE KRUPKSI: Right now, we didn't think the jetty functioning that
well as it is, to replace that with a functioning, Iow-profile jetty should really
stabilize, and I'm not talking about against the overlap here, I'm just
commenting on the jetty, so you really should, from what you provided
with us on the aerial, you really should provide some pretty substantial
protection for this property.
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MIKE BONCHI: If the jetty remains in place, the beach will remain in
place, and it's functional because you can see the drift is all accumulating
on the east side of all the jetties that are in the area. To the east side,
there is always more sand along this particular shoreline as shown in this
photograph. But I was concerned with was two things. Number one was,
and it sounds like we're going to go with keeping the jetty, because there
was some discussion about removing it, with my client, but the idea of a
Iow-profile jetty sounds great. The second items was just some kind of an
overlap on the north edge of the boat ramp because I own property here in
the Town too and I'm a taxpayer and I can see the Town Highway Dept.
out here from now, basically breaking up this ramp and doing something
to replace or repair this ramp because it's going to break to the west. As of
right now, if you're going to look at it, the structures go down and they are
actually breaking to the south. They have already broken down to the
south and settled 5" or 6" on the southern end as material has come up
underneath and there is nothing to support them. Just for your
consideration as one final item, otherwise I think we're in agreement.
BRIAN VILLANTI: One other thing, it's almost 4' at this point now. We're
not going the full 4'. It would be landward of where the remains were in
1993.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: How does the Board feel on that?
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: What would be the finished length of the new
jetty?
TRUSTEE KING: It would remain the same.
BRIAN VILLANTI: It would be exactly what you have only you're cutting it
down to Iow-profile, which is what 18" today?
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: I didn't find it functional that far out. It was non-
functional. There was no difference in grade on either side. Just all Iow-
profile.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: We saying Iow-profile but you're going to have to
show us a scaled drawing and cross-section showing...the landward of
the jetty is going to start where?
MIKE BONCHI: As of right now, it starts several feet out from where the
old deck was.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Would you make it match this gabion...you wouldn't
leave a hole in this?
MIKE BONCHI: No, we would want to have it continuous.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Okay, so you're going to have to come up with a
sketch to show that but also an elevation no higher than 2' above grade.
BRIAN VILLANTI: I think it's roughly now 42" and we're actually cutting it
in half.
TRUSTEE KING: You're showing this as gabions, not a bulkhead. Is that
you're intention.
BRIAN VILLANTI: No, we had spoke about that and you said either we
build gabions (inaudible). He made that drawing on his own. I didn't even
have any knowledge of that. It's going to be timber like it was in 1993. I
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would prefer to put fill because if you look at the house to the east, what I
would be doing is actually duplicating what they have there and they don't
have gabions. I spoke to Costello regarding that and he believes that it's
better not to have the gabions because then I don't have those voids.
TRUSTEE KING: We need a plan showing what's going to be there.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: What about armoring it with stone?
MIKE BONCHI: Well the plans that you have before you right now are the
gabions.
BRIAN VILLANTI: Everything would remain the same except you wouldn't
have the gabions. You would just have fill in lieu of that.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Then you might have to armor that with stone. The
State recommends armoring.
PAT MOORE: I don't think you want to change from what you have with
the DEC because otherwise you have to go back to the DEC and I think
you're kind of rushed to get started. I would suggested that we take what
is being submitted and if you later want to change it...
TRUSTEE KING: Well this isn't a bulkhead, it's a gabion.
MIKE BONCHI: This is the way it was proposed. It was proposed with
gabions behind a bulkhead so that the two would be a structure. In other
words, it's going to be a bulkhead...the fill would be containing gabions
behind it. That was the original diagram. That is what was approved in
1996.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: And this is what the DEC approved?
MIKE BONCHI: Yes. My thought was this. What happened the last time
was in 1992, 1993, the storm came in and ripped the bulkhead out. If you
take the bulkhead and tie it to a gabion behind it, with all the stone and all
the gabion behind it, that bulkhead is not going to go anywhere, because
the stone and the gabion tied to the bulkhead will weight that whole thing
down.
TRUSTEE KING: So there's going to be a bulkhead in front of it.
MIKE BONCHI: Yes.
TRUSTEE KING: Then we should see that on a drawing.
MIKE BONCHI: That is on the original drawing. I just gave this for the
purpose of illustration with the overlap.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Do you have a problem with approving it subject to
a new drawing?
TRUSTEE KING: No.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: So that's what we need. We need to see the cross-
section of the bulkhead. The final elevation of the bulkhead is very
important. The elevation of the gabion to the bulkhead.
MIKE BONCHI: The jetty coming in and going out and matching into that.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: The elevation of that, and obviously the bulkhead is
going to be higher than the jetty. So show that height difference, and the
height of the final jetty, the end of the jetty.
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MIKE BONCHI: Okay, very good. And the amount of overlap, I think, is
something that should be specified in your approval so that way we know
exactly where to put it.
TRUSTEE KING: In that corner, where that's all eroded, you're going to fill
that?
MIKE BONCHI: Actually it's already been filled back with gravel but to the
extent that it's gone by the time we get there we'll fill.
BRIAN VILLANTI: I planted black-top in that area.
MIKE BONCHI: It's sort of a very make-shift bulkhead.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: What about drywells to run their roof run-off into. It
will get some re-charge and it won't be just washed over into that area.
MIKE BONCHI: We may wind up with a single drywell on both sides only
because we're going to wrap the gabion baskets around and it will take up
some space.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Sure, and then you'll get your recharge and you'll
be eliminating the erosion on your property. Is there any other comment
on this application?
KEVIN MCLAUGHLIN: I'm here on behalf of the Mandero family whose
property wraps around the applicant's property. Frankly I'm rather
confused. Last month I made a direct statement to the Board and to the
applicant. One of my clients biggest concerns is the jetty. I was told at that
time there was absolutely nothing that was going to be done with the jetty
and now it seems as if there's a rather extensive rebuilding of the jetty and
my clients strongly object to that and I don't believe it's a part of the
application before this Board. I don't think there was anything in the
application that indicated that anything was ever going to be done with the
jetty. The second main issue that my clients have is the height of the
building when it's finished. There was discussion last month that they had
hoped to not increase the height by more than 18" and that was
acceptable to my clients but I haven't heard anything this evening about
the height of the building. So, those are our two things. We strongly object
to anything being done with the timber jetty. My clients are very concerned
as to what impact rebuilding that jetty will have on their beach, which is
located just to the east of that timber jetty, which basically now, I believe,
from what I've been told, is mostly non-functioning. Their concerned as to
what impact that will have on their beach and again, they strongly oppose
any work being done on that and I don't believe it is part of the application
before this Board at this time.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: You said your clients are to the east of them?
KEVIN MCLAUGHLIN: No. My clients' property wraps around the subject
property on the north and on the west side of the subject property.
MIKE BONCHI: They own the beach to the west. Which is why they are
concerned about the jetty.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Are they the people that have the fences into the
water?.
KEVIN MCLAUGHLIN: No, that's further down.
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BRIAN VILLANTI: That chain link fence is right adjacent to the property in
subject.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I'm just trying to figure out whose going to be
affected here.
PAT MOORE: If I could make a suggestion, I know they are pretty anxious
to get going particularly with the DEC permit that is running and his ability
to stabilize the property, may I suggest that we get the permit for what is
already before you that you would be prepared to act on and I don't think
that there is any disagreement with the neighbor and then we can come
back and you can amend the permit with the jetty with whatever the
ultimate decision is with respect to the jetty. Would that be acceptable?
KEVIN MCLAUGHLIN: As long as the building height is...
PAT MOORE: Yeah, we can put on the record that we've confirmed with
the state that the construction, the renovation of the house can remain at
approximately the same level, 18", the only difference in the foundation,
and that is what Mr. Villanti, you intend to build, right?
BRIAN VILLANTI: Yeah, I don't want to be held down to 18". I could just
go with the flood zone that the house is in, and that's AE, and that requires
no higher than a 10' elevation. The first floor elevation today stands at 7
¼'. It probably will be at 18" it could be 20". But, what I would like to agree
on is that it will not exceed the flood zone that it's in now.
KEVIN MCLAUGHLIN: I would like a maximum placed on the amount of
the increase in the total height of the house. Whether it be 18" or 24", I
don't think makes a lot of difference to me but I don't want to just leave it
open-ended as to tie it into something else that I'm not aware of what
that's going to be in the overall raising of the house.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: This isn't normally in our review, but somebody
must know. If you want to go with 24"...
(inaudible)
PAT MOORE: So, we'll come back with respect to the groin for next
month.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: So, we're ready to move on this?
MIKE BONCHI: With regard to the bulkhead, and then set aside the jetty
for consideration next month.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Yes. Is there any other comment?
TRUSTEE KING: I'd like to see a set of plans to scale showing the
bulkhead, showing the gabions, showing everything in detail.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Showing the elevations.
MIKE BONCHI: Yes, that would be a subject to.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: So the permit doesn't get released until those items
are provided.
MIKE BONCHI: Yes, understood. But that will give us guidance as to how
to prepare those drawing too, since they're slightly different from what was
approved.
PAT MOORE: We have an existing jetty that we could leave there the way
it is, and what you're suggesting is we cut it down to Iow-profile, so
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inkind/inplace, I think our Code allows you to do repairs inkind/inplace.
What you're suggesting is, to mitigate, is to reduce the height of the jetty.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Which is normal for jetty reconstruction in the bay.
PAT MOORE: Exactly. That was, I guess, what you were hoping to do
with condition it as part of this permit but they don't want to see...they
want to discuss the jetty independently, which is fine with us. We'll come
back and discuss the jetty independently and then we can amend this
permit as a condition.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I think what we're going to do is we're going to add
that on as a condition of the permit that any work on the jetty is going to
have to come under the review of the Board, which means you can't
replace it inkind/inplace. Any replacement is going to have to be done at a
Iow-profile.
PAT MOORE: Okay.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: You still have to come in for the amendment but I
just want to lock it in that you can't put it back in the same height.
PAT MOORE: Okay. Do you want us to come in, in the meantime, with a
drawing for the next...are we going to be able to get it onto the next Board
meeting? What's your timeline?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Tomorrow is the deadline.
PAT MOORE: No, okay probably two months from now we'll be back.
That's fine.
MIKE BONCHI: But in the meantime, if we could go forward with the
house and the bulkhead conditioned on a set of drawings to the
specifications provided by the Board.
TRUSTEE KING: Do we have any other comments? ~'11 make a motion to
close the hearing.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Seconded. ALL AYES
TRUSTEE KING: I'll make a motion to Approve the application based on a
scaled drawing showing the bulkhead, the gabions, and I'd like to see a
measurement on the overlap of, I think 18" would be appropriate from the
face of the bulkhead, on that overlap.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: And also the drywells, and conditioned that no work
can be done on the jetty unless the applicant or the owner comes before
the Board with a plan for a Iow-profile jetty.
BRIAN VILLANTI: That would be considered an amendment to this
application?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Yes, and that's also a condition on that. No work
can be done on it unless they come back to us.
KEVIN MCLAUGHLIN: Are we also going to put that 24" height restriction
on the increase in the height of this structure.
MIKE BONCHI: That's fine.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: The first story finished floor height elevation of the
structure shall not increase greater than 24" from the present elevation.
MIKE BONCHI: Very good. That will be plenty. Thank you.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Seconded. ALL AYES
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Diane Herold, Architect on behalf of J. PARKER WICKHAM requests a
Wetland Permit to raise the existing dwelling and attached decks to
required FEMA elevation (3'+/-), new pile foundation and rebuild decks as
necessary. Located: 710 Park Ave. Extension, Mattituck. SCTM#123-8-
28.5
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Is there anyone here who would like to speak?
DIANE HEROLD: I know this Board is very familiar with Marratooka Point
and this is another house that we want to put up on pilings and raise to the
FEMA elevation. I'm sure you're pretty familiar with what we're doing. I did
want to make a clarification. This morning I gave you a letter from the DEC
and I want to clarify. They have no objection but they did ask for the
current tidal wetland boundary on the plan. On Monday I had Glenn Just
from J.M.O. Consulting go look at the property and flag it for me.
Yesterday he was nice enough to go speak to Chris at the DEC. The
flagging that they want is actually on the south side, on the bay front. It is
not on the north side. I just wanted to clarify that with this Board. We do
have 54' from the apparent high water to the existing location of the
house. I just wanted to read that into the record.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: In other words, a 1970 survey is wishful thinking.
DIANE HEROLD: Yes, it's quite old. Mr. VanTuyl is no longer with us.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Although you said 54' now?
DIANE HEROLD: It's 54' yes.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: It's about 70' now.
DIANE HEROLD: Actually this piece of property has a pretty good beach
front compared to a lot of them.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Is there anyone else who would like to speak to
this application? Any Board comments? I'll make a motion to close the
hearing.
TRUSTEE KING: Seconded. ALL AYES
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: I'll make a motion to Approve the application.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: Seconded. ALL AYES
Garrett A. Strang, Architect on behalf of FREDERICK J. & JOAN V.
FROHNE requests a Wetland Permit for alterations to the existing
residence, including proposed new stone terrace addition @ grade,
decorative stone landscape wall and planters. Located: 4700 Paradise
Point Rd., Southold. SCTM#81-3-4
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: Is there anyone who would like to speak in favor
of this application?
GARRETT STRANG: I'm here on behalf of the applicant. Basically what
we have here is a piece of property, which I'm sure you're aware has
improved presently with a dwelling, stone terrace at grade, some wood
walkways, stairs to the beach, and a cabana that's presently existing. The
proposed improvements are essentially a roofed over but unenclosed
portico area over the existing terrace to act as a sun shade. An addition of
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a stone terrace area, most of which is actually in excess of 100' from the
high-water mark, and a landscaping wall just behind the top of the bank
with some shrubs behind and some landscaping in front, and the reason
for this is to act as a barrier from their young grandchildren from
inadvertently going over the edge of the bank and lastly, we want the
Board to acknowledge that we're looking to make some necessary inkind
and inplace repairs to the walkways, the stairs, the platform, and the
cabana. There will be no increase in size or the location of any of those
items. If there are any questions the Board may have, I'll address them at
this time.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: Any other comments on this application? Does
the Board have any comments? Actually I have one question about the
cabana. Did it have a roof? I can't recall.
GARRETT STRANG: The cabana is at the bottom of the steps just behind
the bulkhead. There is a structure there that functions as a cabana. It has
a roof deck on it presently and it's in serious need of repairs. It's been
there for many years. It's part of the C.O. for the building when my client
bought it. The repairs are inplace/inkind.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: I think we would stipulate that the cabana could
be raised no higher than it currently sits.
GARRETT STRANG: There is no intention to raise it at all.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: I have no other comments. I'll make a motion to
close the hearing.
TRUSTEE KING: Seconded. ALL AYES
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: I'll make a motion to Approve the application with
the condition that the cabana cannot be increased in height, as it's rebuilt.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Seconded. ALL AYES
David Corwin on behalf of HELEN HANSEN requests a Wetland Permit to
remove 100 If. of existing timber bulkhead, install in same location 100 If.
of vinyl sheet bulkhead, and recover approx. 15 cy. of lost fill. Located:
235 Sailors Lane, Cutchogue. SCTM#111-14-6&10
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Is there anyone who would like to speak for or
against the application? I didn't have a problem with it because it's
basically inkind/inplace. They're just repairing it. I just had a question
about them using CCA.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: They're using vinyl
DICKERSON: Where did I see CCA? Maybe it was something
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KRUPSKI: Do you just want to condition a non-turf buffer?
DICKERSON: I'll make a motion to close the hearing.
KING: Seconded. ALL AYES
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: I'll make a motion to Approve the application
with the condition that there be a 15' non-turf buffer behind the bulkhead.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: Seconded. ALL AYES
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Peconic Building Solutions, Inc. on behalf of JEFF GREEN requests a
Wetland Permit to construct a garage near existing dwelling. Located: 495
Williamsburg Rd., Southold. SCTM#78-5-10
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: Is there anyone who would like to comment on
this application? If not, any Board comments?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I think we wanted drywells and gutters.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: If there is no other comment, 1'11 make a motion to
close the public hearing.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Seconded. ALL AYES
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: I'll make a motion to Approve the application with
the condition that there be no plumbing in the garage as well as having
drywells and gutters installed, and hay bales on the south side.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: The drywells, gutters and hay bales can be put on
the plan before they get the permit.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Seconded. ALL AYES
11.
Richard Saetta on behalf of ELAINE NESIN requests a Wetland Permit for
a new modular home. Located: 875 Gull Pond Lane, Greenport.
SCTM#35-4-7.4&28.22
TRUSTEE KING: Is there anyone who would like to comment on this
application?
RICHARD SAETTA: I have the return receipt requests. I realize the
drywells for the rain run-off have to be added to the survey.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Is this a new modular home?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: There's a little house on the property now.
RICHARD SAETTA: Yeah, it's a garage that has a bathroom and it was
used to service the dock area. There's an existing septic and water
service there.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: There's a note from the neighbor here. Please have
the Board of Health check out the code requirements. I'm not sure what
this says.
RICHARD SAETTA: Well this is going to the Board of Health. We have to
apply to change the septic system. I already saw Charlie Brigham on that.
There will be a Board of Health permit.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Our concern is that the septic system is not near the
wetlands. The Board of Health is concerned that their septic is not next to
the neighbor's well.
RICHARD SAETTA: I don't know if there is a well on the neighbor's
property. There's water service there.
E. BROWNELL JOHNSTON: Was there ever any permits issued for this
septic system that is there now?
RICHARD SAETTA: Yes, we have a Board of Health reference number
there right on top of the survey. It's says right here Reference #850'1156
existing septic system.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is it possible to tuck that septic closer to the road
away from the canal?
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RICHARD SAETTA: It is but you realize that there are the existing pools,
so what we would do, is yes, we can go closer to the road, sure.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I would like to see that as much as possible. We'll
put that as a condition of the permit.
RICHARD SAETTA: I think we can go 10' from the property line. We can
do that without a problem.
TRUSTEE KING: Any other comments on this application? I'll make a
motion to close the hearing.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Seconded. ALL AYES
TRUSTEE KING: I'll make a motion to Approve the application with
drywells and gutters, and we would like to see the septic system moved
closer to the road, as close as you can get it.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: Seconded. ALL AYES
12.
Agnieszka Drozdowska on behalf of RONALD & MARIA SMITH requests
a Wetland Permit to expand the house 1' behind the existing footprint of
existing deck on creek side. Attached heated breezeway with two-car
garage. Addition of second floor above existing footprint and enclose the
existing gazebo. Located: 2105 Westview Dr., Mattituck. SCTM#107-7-2
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Is there anyone here who would like to speak
on behalf of this application?
RONALD SMITH: Good evening. My wife and I put in this application to
expand and modernize our home to make it more suitable for future
needs. We engaged Architechnologies to draw up the plans for this. I have
the affidavits from the neighbors. If you have any questions regarding
this, our architect Frank Notaro is present and can answer them for you. I
have a set of reduced plans if that would be of some help.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: I couldn't see. Was it staked?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: It's a foot beyond the deck.
RONALD SMITH: It's a foot in back of the existing deck.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: The deck is going to disappear. Did you see the
plans?
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: No.
FRANK NOTARO: We have a larger drawing also that might clarify this.
(unintelligible)
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Did you say you had letters from the neighbors?
FRANK NOTARO: We have the signed affidavit that we noticed them.
(unintelligible)
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: Is there any objection?
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Did you get the signed receipts? This just
showed that you mailed it.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: They should have drywells and gutters.
FRANK NOTARO: The neighbors don't have a problem with it.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Well we don't know that they received these,
right?
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: We shouldn't act on it unless we have that.
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FRANK NOTARO: I know that they twhere sent out certified mail.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: On the 24 , which was Monday and today is
Wednesday.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: We can't act on it then if they weren't property
noticed.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: We just want to be sure that everyone received
it. I'll make a motion to Table the application.
TRUSTEE KING: Seconded. ALL AYES
13.
Patricia C. Moore, Esq. on behalf of OKI-DO LTD. requests a Wetland
Permit to clean up debris and demolish tin building, retain structure,
remove wood building on north side of property, and retain concrete
building board. Located: 2835 Shipyard Lane, East Marion. SCTM#38-7-
7.1
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there anyone who would like to speak in favor of
the application?
PAT MOORE: This is all part of the process of the unsafe structures that
was started by the Town Board a number of months ago. We started off
with fencing the property and in order to remove the...the directive of the
Town was to remove or bring down unsafe structures but unfortunately
you need a permit to do it. So, we're here before you for a permit to
remove the tin building. We're going to remove the outside walls, take
down the structural beams and leave them there for the reuse of the
building, or future reuse of the building. The larger building, I believe it's a
brick building, that's just going to be secured and there was the old garage
that was probably 300' from any wetlands and that was already removed.
It's shown here, because you wanted to know what was being removed
and what wasn't and I didn't realize it had already been removed. But, that
wouldn't have been in your jurisdiction anyway. That's about it. Its just
part of the process for the reuse of this property.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: And what is that?
PAT MOORE: Well it's an M2 zoning so there is, in the plans right now, it
hasn't been formally submitted, we've met with the Planning staff just to
get some input, but they want to build a spa/motel and another permitted
use here is a restaurant. So, if you like, I have the preliminary plans, but
it's very rough because it hasn't been reviewed by the Town. I can share
it with you. We've shared it with anybody who wants to take a look at it.
Are you interested?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Well just because our input might save you a month
later on.
PAT MOORE: That's fine.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Did the CAC have any comments?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: The CAC's only concern was with the tanks, soil
types and other environmental hazards. I think they're talking about any
possible existing...
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PAT MOORE: (inaudible) As you know this is an M2 zoned property. The
existing building here would be the spa/hotel. The part of this building, the
metal building, is coming down but the foundation is still in tact, and that
would be the restaurant. Here are the motel units. The person who is
developing this is a Japanese woman who is very much is into (inaudible)
principles so it has to have a lot of water, a lot of open space, and a lot of
greenery, and as long as she continues to be the person developing this,
that's her plan. The marina, to my knowledge, she doesn't really have any
plans for the commercial use of this marina. It would be for the use within
this spa.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: This is an appropriate place for a marina. I think if
she's going to develop it, I think she wants to think about...this is all
natural shoreline...we'll I don't want to call it a natural shoreline because it
was man-made.
PAT MOORE: Yes, it is a dredged canal. It doesn't have hard structures,
let's put it that way. To my knowledge there is no bulkheading around it. I
think the bulkheading right now is just here.
E. BROWNELL JOHNSTON: Didn't you give them a permit to dredge
that? Where are they dredging?
PAT MOORE: Actually the dredging was initiated by Cleaves Point, mostly
because they wanted to get some of the material, and that worked out for
them.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Make sure their permits are in place because we
have no objection to them using this. But just to make sure because then
someone says "oh, yeah, they have their permits" and then they don't.
PAT MOORE: What permits?
TRUSTE KRUPSKI: For the maintenance dredging.
PAT MOORE: Oh, Larry Tuthill was the one who came in and you guys
gave it to him fairly recently, in the last four or five months.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: One thing we would like to see instead of a
bulkhead here though is a revetment similar to what Cleaves Point has. If
you notice, Cleaves Point has a beach in front of it. We believe one of the
reasons is because they have a revetment and not a hard structure.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: They actually might want to put the dredged spoil
right here.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I don't know if this has to be dredged again or not,
and if they're going to develop this, they might want to consider a Iow-sill
bulkhead where they can plant wetland behind it.
PAT MOORE: Yes, that would be nice and natural looking. (inaudible) I
welcome your comments. Thank you.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there any other comment?
JIM TONESMEYER: I'm from Cleaves Point and I just have a couple of
questions. I heard you referring to the bulkhead and possibly putting a
revetment in. Is the bulkhead being addressed as part of this permit?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I don't believe so.
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JIM TONESMEYER: Should something be done with it? It's been
disintegrating for several years and it's a problem as far as navigation is
concerned with pieces of wood floating off of it, and l'm also concerned
about erosion because it's in such bad shape right now.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Good question.
PAT MOORE: I'll pass it on to the owner. I think this is such an enormous
project and the number of permits that we're ultimately going to have to
get, I think it's one bite at a time.
JIM TONESMEYER: Is there any way that the Trustees can ask the owner
to do something as part of granting this permit?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: As part of a clean-up maybe. We didn't look at this
month, but we've seen it a lot recently. We've been there numerous times
and I know it's been falling apart for a long time.
JIM TONESMEYER: We don't want to let this sit until she gets...it could
take years to get all of these permits.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I think what do, we're going to require on this permit
that the loose pieces of the bulkhead should be removed at the time the
building are taken down.
PAT MOORE: But we're not going to start taking out what is there.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: No, no, but anything that is not secured should be
either removed or re-attached, so that it's secure.
PAT MOORE: I think that's kind of the job anyway. Your mission has been
clean-up there.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: To get back to the bulkhead, Cleaves Point does
have that retaining wall on the other side of the revetment, and we've
always noticed a beach. It's cobbles but it's a beach at least. We feel that
the same situation could exist there if it were in fact a softer structure, like
a revetment.
JIM TONESMEYER: Is there a time frame on this?
PAT MOORE: She wants it in as of yesterday.
JIM TONESMEYER: I tell you why I ask is because, yes she did put a
fence along Shipyard Lane, but there is nothing along the waterside, so
the property is not secured and the building is wide open. There is
overhead door that's been open all winter. So really, anybody can still get
into the property because it's wide open.
PAT MOORE: To a certain extent but I think that the activity going on
there...the problem in the past was people leaving boats and garbage
there.
JIM TONESMEYER: Well people were going in there and taking drugs
and doing whatever else they do in there.
PAT MOORE: Maybe you want to explain what you're job description is.
JOHN HOCKER: I'm from Latham Sand and Gravel and have been
contracted to do general clean-up of all the old boats and debris and
collection of things that's already been completed. The dilapidated building
on the north side has already been removed. The large tin building I've
been contracted to remove along with the debris that's to the south side of
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that building. She has intentions of boarding up the windows on the main
concrete building. That large concrete building, she originally talked about
bringing it down but it has a very good chance of being reused and she
needs to finalize her plans a little further.
PAT MOORE: As far as time frame goes, the plans are right now...Young
& Young is preparing the site plan. That, as soon as it's prepared, will be
submitted to the Planning Board, that's the first step. There's probably
going to be a need for going to the Zoning Board as well for, I believe, a
special permit. So, those processes work somewhat in coordinated
fashion, but it takes months to get.
JIM TONESMEYER: Well our only concern is that we would like the
building secured since the Town has declared it an unsafe structure. It
shouldn't be allowed open the way it is.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: What's the timetable on that?
JOHN HOCKER: Taking the building down?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Yes.
JOHN HOCKER: It might be by the summer. It won't be immediately.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: That's in the owner's best interest.
JIM TONESMEYER: Can they secure it in the meantime before they take
it down?
PAT MOORE: Well they're working on the fencing. The weather stopped
them from continuing the fence along the north and east side. The
waterfront side is tough because you have the boat basin. That's always
going to present a problem. Boarding the building, I think, is part of
the...it's going to be done.
JIM TONESMEYER: Well get the door closed and board it up or whatever
to keep people out.
JOHN HOCKER: Believe me, it's been closed many times. People who
want to go in there will find a way to go in there.
PAT MOORE: Certainly your support at the Board meeting to move this
project along will help us to get this project done, and convince the
Planning Board and Zoning Board to process us quickly.
JIM TONESMEYER: And then we would just like to make it clear that we
would like to see that building secured as much as you possibly can.
PAT MOORE: We're working on it. Thank you.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Any other comment?
BARBARA MACKENZIE: I own a home on Fire Rd. #7, which is the dirt
road, the private road, on the backside of this particular area, and the
fence that they have up now is very secure along Shipyard Lane. It goes
in maybe 100' on the dirt road and it stops. So, all anybody has to do is
walk down the dirt road and just walk right in there. It is quite open. My
concern is, I don't know how long it's going to take them to do this work
and are they going to start at 6:00 in the morning on weekends and you
know, work until 9:00 at night. The last time somebody has something
build around there, they did start around 5:30 in the morning and after I
complained to the Police Department, they said, oh yes, they really
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shouldn't start until 8:00 am. So, I don't know what time these people are
thinking about starting but you know, summer, and this is a resort type
neighborhood, and we've been there for 20 years, so I have some
concerns about that. The other concerns I have are about where they put
their tennis court and their parking lot. I suppose this isn't the time to bring
that up. That would be brought up at another time.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: That's a different Board also. Those are all good
concerns. It's hard to get a good neighbor.
BARBARA MACKENZIE: Yes it is, but I don't think it's an awful request
that people start at 8:00 in the morning instead of 6:00 in the morning and
work until 6:00 or 7:00 at night.
JOHN HOCKER: If I could make a comment. The fence, the distance that
it is under the contract with the fence guy who isn't here, he stopped
because he needed clearing done and he couldn't continue by hand. I
have since taken a machine and cleared a path for him and that's about
the time it got really cold. The weather has been a problem.
BARBARA MACKENZIE: They came on my property and took my hose
and tried to use my water but it was turned off. I was a little annoyed about
that.
PAT MOORE: That's not him.
BARBARA MACKENZIE: I just have some concerns about whose going to
be doing it, what time frame is this going to be done, and I don't have too
much confidence in what was done so far so I think we need to have it
spelled out.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Those are all good concerns. Thank you. Any other
comment?
PAT MOORE: We did talk in the hallway and I promised I would pass her
concerns onto the owner and the contractor with the extent that I have
contact with them. I'll keep it in the back of my mind. In particular,
weekends.'
BARBARA MACKENZIE: It's not a request that you're being kind to us, I
think that it's something that we have a right to.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Well something like that should be worked out
between neighbors really.
BARBARA MACKENZIE: Well I can take it up with the Police Department.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Good neighbors go both ways. Our Board wouldn't
have any control over that.
BARBARA MACKENZIE: Well then I'll just have to go through those
channels again.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I'll make a motion to close the hearing.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Seconded. ALL AYES
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I'll make a motion to Approve the application to
demolish and secure all the buildings, and secure or remove any loose
debris from the bulkhead, so it can't enter the Bay.
TRUSTEE KING: Seconded. ALL AYES
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14.
Suffolk Environmental Consulting, Inc. on behalf of LARRY SEVERINI
requests a Wetland Permit to construct a 975 sq.ft.+/- addition to the
existing dwelling; a 256 sq.ft.+/- attached porch; a 187 sq.ft.+/- rear
deck/patio addition to the existing rear deck/patio; and a 500 sq.ft.+/-
detached garage. Located: 1795 Pipes Neck Rd., Greenport. SCTM#53-
1-14
POSTPONED UNTIL MARCH AS PER THE AGENT'S REQUEST
15.
Suffolk Environmental Consulting, Inc. on behalf of LOIS T. ANDERSON
requests a Wetland Permit to construct a new wood bulkhead in front of
the existing wood bulkhead (within 18"). Construct (to replace existing)
fiberglass sheathing bulkhead, 132'+/- long secured by deadmen 8" round
at 8' intervals; and two (2) returns 5' long each, and to remove the existing
pilings securing the existing wood bulkhead. Located: 2515 Calves Neck
Rd., Southold. SCTM#70-4-45.5
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: Is there anyone here who would like to comment
on this application?
MATT IVANS: I'm from Suffolk Environmental Consulting, and I just want
to clarify something. Instead of two returns, we're just going to go with one
of the eastern end, as per the request of the DFC, and just to note that
we're not going to use any pilings. It's fiberglass sheathing, which is
supposed to be strong enough to go without the pilings. I'm here to
answer any questions.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: I'd like to know if the DEC allowed you to go out
in front of, the 18".
MATT IVANS: Yes, it sounds like it. We got the notice of incomplete
application, satisfied it, and so far it seems like they have no problem with
that.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: There's a letter for the record. It's from Katherine
& Harry Bais. My wife and I vehemently object to appficant's request to
construct a new wood bulkhead in front of her existing bulkhead within 18"
seaward for the following reasons: 1) Undermining and weakening the
foundations and stability of our bulkhead, which is adjacent to hers. 2)
Both Mrs. Anderson's and our bulkheads are in excellent condition so why
disturb what is working well and take a chance on certain ecological
developments to Jockey Creek. 3) Her request to extend the proposed
bulkhead 18" seaward is an unjustified encroachment on pubfic/county
property and waters. We strongly object to that. It would set a bad
precedent for others to follow. 4) There is currently a moratorium on
building new bulkheads in our town. One may repair existing bulkheads
not rebuild, and certainly not going out into our creek. This would be
kicking out part of the moratorium. 5) We therefore expect to see a denial
of her unreasonable thoughtless request, which again would set a
negative precedent for other. I also would like to read into the record that
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the CAC recommends Approval of the application with the condition that
the bulkhead is replaced in-place and a 25' vegetated buffer is established
landward of the bulkhead with a swale at the edge of the buffer. Would
anyone else like to speak on this application?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Ken, what do think?
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: I would say keep it in-place along with all the rest
of the comments. Remove the existing and keep it in-place.
MATT WANS: I'll probably have to get back to you. I have to talk to the
client about it. And a buffer?
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: They recommend 25' but our normal buffer is 15'
non-turf vegetated buffer.
MATT WANS: I'm going to have to talk to the client and go from there.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: Okay. I'll make a motion to Table the application.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Seconded. ALL AYES
16.
Costello Marine Contracting Corp. on behalf of DOUG ELY requests a
Wetland Permit to construct 116' new batter-style bulkhead (including 2 -
8' long returns) with C-Loc vinyl sheathing seaward of existing bank,
above the high-tide line. Located: 1250 Grand Ave., Mattituck.
SCTM#107-1-10.4
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Is there anyone here who would like to speak for
or against this application?
JOHN COSTELLO: Yes, my name is John Costello and I am the agent for
this application and I would ask the Board to Table this application. First of
all, the Board recommended that the owner consider a small rock
revetment and prune some of the existing trees. He's in favor of pruning
the trees and he'll probably do the pruning of the trees. He understands
that there is a possibility, if they did prune the trees, there would be a
possible increase in the high marsh, that's out front. There's a vacant spot
in the high marsh that may expand. He knows that the rock revetment and
the small retaining wall that was proposed were about equal in price. He
had a concern about possible debris and possible infestation by rats or
whatever, and he wanted to research and ask a couple of people along
the shoreline, including the Old Mill and whatnot, to what degree that had
effect, before he made a decision to go either one way or another. I
certainly understand it and I would like to try to Table this until he makes a
decision to either go with it or without. He has legitimate concerns.
TRUSTEE KING: John, tell him if he's in the area if he wants to come look
at my rock retaining wall on my property he's more than welcome to.
JOHN COSTELLO: Well I know, there is that and I know the one across
there, I've seen rats.
TRUSTEE KING: I don't have any rats.
JOHN COSTELLO: We worked under the Old Mill and let me tell you, that
is a possibility and it does happen.
TRUSTEE KING: They have to have a food supply.
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JOHN COSTELLO: Absolutely. I know that the higher tides, that's where
they get the debris in it and that's his concern.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: If the applicant is looking for a restoration of the
spartina, he might be able to call Cornell Cooperative down in Cedar
Beach.
JOHN COSTELLO: He would do that but there is a small barrier of high
marsh past the spartina, and that would expand if he would let some more
sunlight come in there because there is a small portion of un-vegetated
land there.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: They're looking for spots to do projects.
E. BROWNELL JOHNSTON: And the construction would be above the
high-tide line?
JOHN COSTELLO: Yes it is, except at Spring tides. There is a little
erosion but it's only above high water.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: I'll make a motion to Table.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: Seconded. ALL AYES
17.
Costello Marine Contracting Corp. on behalf of JOHN DILL requests a
Wetland Permit to remove and dispose 273' of existing timber jetties.
Construct 142' total of three (3) new jetties with C-Loc vinyl sheathing in-
place of existing. Located: 484 Jackson St., New Suffolk. SCTM#117-10-
3.4
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: There has been a request to Table this
application.
JOHN COSTELLO: Again, I'm going to ask that this be Tabled for the
simple reason the surveyor has not gotten to the site and at the last
meeting, the Board agreed, with two neighbors that were concerned about
the exact location of the three jetties, being close to the property line, and
the piers that the inshore end of one, which is not being affected, is not on
his property and the offshore is. But, that has to be verified by a surveyor
and Peconic Surveyors just did not get there. So I can't submit the
information this Board wanted.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: I'll make a motion to Table this application.
TRUSTEE KING: Seconded. ALL AYES
18.
Costello Marine Contracting Corp. on behalf of VINCENT T£SE requests
a Wetland Permit to remove and dispose 130' of existing timber jetties.
Construct 130' total of three new jetties with C-Loc vinyl sheathing in-place
of existing. Located: 800 Jackson St., New Suffolk. SCTM#117-10-5
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Is there anyone who would like to comment on
this application?
JOHN COSTELLO: There are three Iow-profile jetties and we intend to
take only the exposed offshore ends off, they are constructed of creosoted
materials and locust posts, and reconstruct them exactly the same thing,
using vinyl sheathing of the same length and same height and we're
keeping them Iow-profile. There are very effective.
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DICKERSON: Is there any other comment?
KRUPSKI: No comment on this.
POLIWODA: Inkind/inplace and the same height.
DICKERSON: I'll make a motion to close the hearing.
KING: Seconded. ALL AYES
DICKERSON: I'll make a motion to Approve the application.
KING: Seconded. ALL AYES
19.
Docko, Inc. on behalf of HAY HARBOR CLUB requests a Wetland Permit
to maintenance dredge +/-3' in the diving area around the swimming dock.
Dredged material will be used for upland fill purposes. Located: Bell Hill
Ave., Fishers Island. SCTM#3-1-3
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I'll make a motion to Table the application.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Seconded. ALL AYES
20.
Docko, Inc. on behalf of LUCIUS L. FOWLER requests a Wetland Permit
to relocate an existing 10'X 20' float with four new restraint piles and install
a new 3'X 20' hinged ramp. Install seven new tie-off piles, all waterward
of the apparent high-water line. Located: Equestrian Ave., Fishers Island.
SCTM#9-3-9
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there anyone here for or against the application.
They want to relocate it seaward.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: I can't agree with this. This is a residential lot
right?
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Yes. They want to go out that much more. They
have seven new pilings they want to put in. I have a problem with the tie-
off piles.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: I don't like the tie-off piles either because they
monopolize the bottom. Once they're in, they're in, and it's a residential
lot. If they need a tie-off pile, they can just throw an anchor.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I don't have a problem with one tie off pile.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA: Right. One pile to accommodate the boat is fine.
It's usually on the inshore side of their float.
(talking, inaudible)
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I know what you're saying. Peggy is questioning the
need to go out further too.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: They're going out past the neighbor's dock.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: All right, we're going to have to Table this and have
Artie send us his written comments. I'll make a motion to Table.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Seconded. ALL AYES
21.
Docko, Inc. on behalf of RICHARD BINGHAM requests a Wetland Permit
to extend an existing 6' wide fixed pier by 30 (+/-) If. to reach suitable
berthing depth all waterward of the apparent high-water line. Located:
Central Ave., Fishers Island. SCTM#6-4-2
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TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: Is there anyone here for or against the application?
I have a problem with extending a dock into the eelgmss beds. It shows
eelgrass beds and it shows them going right in between. But, what I
would like to do is have Scott prepare a report on it. He should give us a
page why we shouldn't put a dock in the middle of the eelgrass.
TRUSTEE KING: I'll see if I can get a ride over there somehow.
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI: I'll make a motion to Table the application.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON: Seconded. ALL AYES
22.
Gail Wickham, Esq. on behalf of MICHAEL CHUISANO requests a
Wetland Permit to construct a new single-family dwelling on vacant land.
Located: 575 Diamond Lane, Southold. SCTM#68-2-10
POSTPONED UNTIL APRIL AS PER THE AGENT'S REQUEST
(MORATORIUM-Table)
23.
J.M.O. Environmental Consulting Services on behalf of CHRISTOPHER
PlA requests a Wetland Permit to dredge a 12'X 360' channel to a depth
of -4', the resultant spoil (320 cy.) of sand will be placed on the adjacent
beach for beach nourishment. Located: 1455 Inlet Way, Southold.
SCTM#92-1-4
POSTPONED AS PER THE AGENT'S REQUEST
(MORATORlU M-Table)
24.
Land Use Ecological Services, Inc. on behalf of JOHN DEFILIPPI
requests a Wetland Permit to remove the phragmites from the shoreline
and stabilize with native plantings for erosion control. Located: 3345
Cedar Lane, East Marion. SCTM#37-7-10.2
POSTPONED UNTIL APRIL. SCHEDULED FOR MARCH FIELD
INSPECTION,
TRUSTEE KRUPSKI moved to go off the Public Hearings and go back to the
Regular Meeting. TRUSTEE DICKERSON seconded. ALL AYES
MOORINGS/STAKES:
PETER BOGER requests an onshore/offshore stake off his own property.
Located: Private Rd., off of Bayview Rd., Southold. SCTM#87-4-4
TRUSTEE POLIWODA moved to Approve the application for an
onshore/offshore stake off his own property using a 4"X 4" post.
TRUSTEE DICKERSON seconded. ALL AYES
WILLIAM H. GAFFGA requests a Mooring/Stake Permit, replacing stake
#33 in Arshamomaque Pond, for a 14' boat.
TRUSTEE POLIWODA moved to Approve the application, TRUSTEE
DICKERSON seconded. ALL AYES
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There being no further business to come before the Board of Trustees, the
meeting was adjourned at 9:30 PM.
Respectfully submitted by,
Lauren M. Standish, Senior Clerk
Board of Trustees