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HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-09/09/1986148 SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD SEPTEMBER 9, .1986 WORK SESSION Present: Supervisor Francis J. Murphy, Justice Raymond W. Edwards (9;55 A.M.), Councilman Paul Stoutenburgh, Councilman James A. Schondebare, Council- woman Jean W. Cochran, Councilman George L. Penny IV, Town Clerk Judith T. Terr~/, Town Attorney Robert W. Tasker (10:.10 A.M.). 9:15 A.M. - Heather Cusack met briefly with the Board to update them on her project to prepare a road run-off survey, which she had planned to conduct this summer, but was held up until recently due to an automobile accide~nt. She said to date she has found about 50 areas where there is 'pipe or drainage area run-off into the creeks. Ms. ¢'usack w~as asked to include freshwater ponds in'her survey. 9:25 A.M. - Community/ Development Director James McMahon met with the Board to discuss the possibility of using a 5.6 acre parcel of Town owned property located south of Soundview Avenue, Southold, west of Kenneys Road, for an affordsble housing site. The property had been used for many years as a "stump dump" by the Highway Depa~ ment. Mr. McMahon will work with Councilwoman Cochran and Superintendent of Hiq~! ways Jacobs to research all Town owned parcels throughout the Town to determine th. ii ~ feasibil!ty of using some for affordable housing sites. 9:40 A.M. - For Discussion Items: (1) Compliance with SEQR regulations on Community Water Systems will be discussed with David Emilita when he comes before the Board at 3:45 P.M. (2) The present fee of $2.50 for the sale of fill from the Landfill Site was. discussed. Superintendent of Highways Jacobs has projected that the Town will run out of sand within the next ten years. Supervisor Murphy stated the Board should now consider the purchase of a mid-size compactor and a new truck for the Landfill. The compactor would lessen the amount of waste being deposited, and therefore the amount of sand used for cover would be reduced. He asked the Board to consider a $200,000 bond anticipation note for the machinery, and Councilwoman Cochran concurred~ Councilman Schondebare opposed the proposal, stating he will wait for the final H2M study on solid waste management, to which Councilman Penny and Justice Edwards agreed. Councilman Stoutenburgh asked that the Board hold this discussion for two weeks and review it with Superintendent of Highway~s Jacobs~._ The Board_aqr_ee_d- (3) Re~est of Attorney Christopher Kelley for a 30 day postponement on acceptance of the Final ElS for Southport Development. The Board has now received a Completion of the Final ElS from Planner Emilita, and the Town Clerk is .about to publish Receipt of same, therefore Mr. Kelley's request will be denied as there will be a 30 day comment period to October 9th on the Final. (4) The Board considered setting a date for interviews of'applicants for the part-time position of Director of the Town water program. Ruth Oliva, Water Advisory Committee, handed the Board a list of the proposed dutiesr~.~ of this water program director. Councilman Stoutenburgh stated he has reconsidered i~. this concept and feels the Town is ready for a full-time planner whose duties would i include the water program. Councilman Schondebare agreed, stating he had suggeste~'-; this some time ago for the 1987 budget with a significant salary for the individual hired. A job description will be prepared and submitted to the Suffolk County Department of Civil Service for classification. 10:15 A.M. - Rob Brown, FairWeather/Brown Architects~, met with the Board to discuss the progress of the repairs to the Senior/Youth Center building at Peconic. Additional corrections have been discovered, as well as some items included in the specifications which will not be necessary. Mr. Brown will request the contractor Island Acoustics to prepare cost changes, which may result in a swap-off, and have them for the next Board meeting. 10:35 A.M. - Youth Counselor Mary Ann Fleishmann appeared before the Board to request a formal meeting of the Recreation Committee to clearly define the responsibilities of Youth Services. Councilwoman Cochran said she would schedule a meeting and notify Ms. Fleishmann. 10:40 A.M. - The Board discussed a letter from the Kenne¥'s Beach Civic Association, Inc. concerning the establishment of a committee to formulate a plan of solution to stop erosion at Kenney's Beach, and recommending Mr. Donald Stantion as a member of this proposed committee. Councilman Penny said'the Board has not established a committee as yet, but-the study should include the area from Duck Pont to Hortons Point. Super- visor Murphy suggested that Councilman Penny work on formulating this committee, and other Board members felt that the majority of the committee should be made up of propert~ owners along the troubled area; Mr. Penny to represent the Town who is also a property owner. Mr. Stanton, who was in the audience, asked that the Town lead the committee, thus providir~g a stronger voice before the State and County. Councilman Penny and Mr. Stanton will meet to prepare goals and scope and make their,presentation at the September 23rd work session. Mr. Stanton advised the Board that one of the directions they will be researching is the possible establishment of an Erosion Control District. 11:15 A.M. - Coastal Erosion Hazard Area Program. Residents of Kenney's Beach and West Mattituck Beach, represented by Donald Stantion and Donald Witcheiben, met with the Board to discuss this prime concern of everyone that lives on the sound front. Mr. Al Moyse, President of the Rabbit Lane Association, East Marion, also in attendance voiced his support for a grandfather provision and compensation for damaged property owners. Councilman Penny advised he has arranged for William Daly of the NYS-DEC to make an inspection tour of Kenney's and West Mattituck on the 1Gth of September, at which time Mr. Daly has asked that the people affected be in attendance. Senator LaValle and Assemblyman Sawicki Will also be invited to attend to hear the concerns of the residents so they will be prepared to offer amendments to the Coastal Erosion Hazard Area law. '10:40 A.M. - The Beard ~liscussed County dredging policy, Michael Zweig grape and wine industry study, scavenger waste plant problems, progress on the Fishers Island Sewer District, Skunk Lane drainage project, finalization of the Solid Waste Management study by Gary Loesch of H2M, Councilman Penny's arrangements for a drinking water supply informational meeting tentatively set for September 29th, rumor concerning the acquisition of a 200 car ferry by Cross Sound Ferry Services, and Councilman Penny's request that the Town Board take the lead on the Coastal Erosion Hazard Program. Also discussed was a letter from the Town Trustees to attorney ~lichael J. Hall with respect to a wetland application of George Lamborn, Fishers Island, which matter has been tabled pending receipt of a letter from the Town Board concerning Mr. Lamborn's proposal to pump water from a pond in Mosquito Hollow to a pond on his property. The Board has no objection provided the Trustees arrange for adequate monitoring of the project. 12:30 P.M. - Recess for luncl~. 2:00 P.M. - Work Session reconvened and the Board met with Senior Account Clerk Joan Richter relative to problems they are experiencing with payroll processing by North Fork l~ank. Mrs. Richter said the problems are being resolved gradually, but they arestill running ADP for a cross check. Since North Fork has only been handling the process since July 1st, the Board asked Mrs. Richter to give them more time to work out the bugs.--The Board discussed with Mrs. Richter the transfer of Sylvia Rouse from the Assessor's Office to the Accounting & Finance Department. Supervisor Murphy said Assessor Chairman Gordon has agreed to the transfer and Mrs. Richter said she would speak to Mrs. Rouse, who is out of the building today, to determine whether she will be available to start in the morning. EXECUTIVE SESSION 3:00 - Discusse~t personnel with Executive Adminisirator Lessard. *** 3:45 P.M. - Planner David Emilita met with the Board to discuss compliance of the SEQR regulations with respect to the Town's policy on community water systems and the Suffolk County Water Authority. Mr. Emilita stated that upon the Town Board's request at the August 26th meeting he further researched this question and last week he spoke with Jeff Masca in Albany who handles community questions about the procedures with regard to SEQR. He asked him the specific question about the Town's policy with regard to the Suffolk County Water Authority and how this would have or should have been handled with regard to SEQR and his opinion to him was that it is a Type II action and there is no further need for a SEQR determination on behalf of the Town Board. They did, in fact, properly procedurally adopt that policy.---Discussion with respect to the proposed updated zoning code and map. Is the Board ready to move forward? It was determined that the map has not been up- dated with the recent changes requested by the Town Board, and the seven foot contour at Orient is still being prepared by Van Tuyl. Until this is all placed on the proposed map to be used for the purposes of a public hearing and circulation to the public, the matter must be held in abeyance, it is hoped this will all be in place for further action at the September-23rd meeting.---Mr. Emilita was asked to research job descriptions and titles for a full-time planner. 150 SEPTEMBER 9, 1986 4:00 P.M. - Upon request of Councilwoman Cochran the Board reviewed their 1987 budget estimates for Town Board members A1010. 4:30 P.M. - Following the audit of outstanding vouchers the Work Session adjourned. REGULAR MEETING 7:30 P.M. A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was h-eld on Tuesday., S. eptember 9, 1986 at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York. Supervisor Murphy opened the meeting at 7:30 P.M. with the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. Present: Supervisor Francis'J. Murphy Justice Raymond W. Edwards Councilman Paul Stoutenburgh Councilman James A. Schondebare CouncilWoman Jean W. Cochran Councilman George L. Penny IV *** Town Clerk Judith T. Terry Town Attorney Robert W. Tasker SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Good evening. The first order of business i'd like a resolution approving the audit of the bills of September 9, 1986. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was RESOLVED that the following audited bills be and hereby are ordered paid: General Fund ~¥t~ole Town bills in the amount of $18,575.36; General Fund Part Town bills in the amount of $4,665.08; Fishers island Ferry District bills in the amount of $25,569. Highway Department bills in the amount of ~4,883.70; Southold Wastewater District bills in-the amount of $3,291.71; Agricultural Lands Account bills in the amount of $6,700.00. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Next is a resolution approving the minutes of the last regular meeting of August 26th, 1986. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was RESOLVED that the minutes of the Au~]ust 26, 1986 reqular Southold Town Board meeting be and hereby are approved. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman. Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Next is to set a resolution for the next meeting date of September 23rd, 1986, 7:30 P.M., Southold Town Hall. Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was RESOLVED that the next regular meetinc~ of the Southold Town Board will be held at 7:30 P.M., Tuesday, September 23, 1986 at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York. Vote of the Town Board:'Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Schondebarer Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. I. REPORTS SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Moving on to the first item on your agenda, reports. I'd like to remind everybody these reports are on file in the Town Clerk's Office. Number two, in particular, if anyone's interested in reading was the results of our investment in a wine study for the North Fork. These reports are available to be read or to be scrutinized in the Town Clerk's Office. 1. Town Clerk's monthly.report - August 1986. 2. The Wine Industry and the Future of Agriculture on Long Island's North Fork by Michael Zweig. 3. Building Department's monthly report - August 1986. SEPTEMBER 9, 1986 151 4. Southold Town DOg S~t~~i~ ¥~i~)r[~ August 1986. 5. Scavenger Waste Treatment Facility monthly report - August 1986. 6. Councilmen's reports. I would like at this point now to ask the Councilmen to make their special reports, starting on my left with Paul. COUNCILMAN STOUTI~NBURGH: Okay. i attended the Water Advisory meetinq where we had some returns from our inquiry about a job position, and we're setting up an interview in the future for these people--or are we going to send a letter? Didn't we decide to send a letter to each of them and cancel them out, ! believe, wasn't it? In hopes that we will possibly combine this position for the ~Water Advisory Committee with a planner, which is kind of nice to hear that the Board is pretty well agreed upon the idea that this Town at this time needs a planner. Also I attended the Landfill meetinc~. I'm going to leave that to our Chairman Jay Schondebare to take care of. We also had a Critical Environmental Area meeting on September 2nd. I'm just going to read this. On September 2nd I called together a meeting of interested parties who had contacted me regarding the Critical Environmental Area in the Hallocks Bay area. This meeting would have taken place earlier had I not respected Jay Bredemeyer's request to hold off, and John Tuthill's request to wait until the zoning issue in'Orient was settled. I wanted to particularly to meet with all the people who had requested a Critical Environmental Area before going to the landowners. The meeting went as I had planned in the sense that the majority agreed that a meeting with the landowners would take place before anything ~inal ~vould be done regarding a Critical Environmental Area concept, and therefore ~ have set up a tentative date, with the Board's approval, for September 24th, at 7:30, at Poquatuck Hall, if that hall is available, and i would like, if the Board agrees, i would like to have that inquiry to see if we could have that hall set up. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: What date is this, Paul? COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: This is on the 24th of September. I think it's a Monday. - SUPERVISOR MURPHY: You want us to call? COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Yes, would you? If it's agreeable with everybody. This would be with the landowners and then we would have to contact the landowners and we have a map which you could take the names of the landowers off the map and just contact them. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: What landowners? COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: These are the landowners of Hallock Bay. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Would you come in and give us a list from the tax map? We have a tax map. COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: No, you have a map, remember, with the contour on it. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Yes, you could take that map. COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Just take them right off that. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Just the ones around Hallock? COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: That's right. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay. COUI~ClLMAN STOUTENBURGH: And I also, I think, and the most important part which I'd like to report on is our very successful STOP Program - Stop Throwing Out Pollutants, which we h~eld on Saturday, last Saturday. I §uess it's the second we've had. We had 98 residents come to our program bringing their household pesticides. We filled 26 - 52 gallon drums with all kinds of things running from paint products. There were 71 of' those. 61 pesticides. And I can assure you they were pesticides of Chloridane and old DDT and things of this sort, which we're very glad to get off the shelves. Weed killers, drained oil, chemicals from pools and 11 other items that we--miscellaneous items. The people came from mainly--25 came from $outhold, 24 came from Cutchogue0 22 from Mattituck, ~ from O. rient, 5 from New Suffolk, 4 from Greenport and 3 from Peconic, which shows the majority of people came from the area around the Landfill~ Southold, Cutchogue and Mattituck. There- fore we're thinking perhaps in the future we'll go ahead and hopefully move our program to the east and hope we'll get more participation. We had a questionnaire also, "Where did you hear about our program?" And the majority of the people heard it through you good newspaper people and then following that we had 44 for the newspaper and 38 flyers, 12 for radio, 12 on the dump s~gn we have up there, 10 on posters, and 6 heard it through frie..nds._ _A comment, "How did they feel the program went?" All thought 152 SEPTEMBER 9, 1986 it was an excellent idea. Some wanted to go ahead and have a permanent facility there, and Frank, you might talk a little bit about thai idea a little later on. The only one comment we had was we were late starting and the people who were hauling our material away, and this is 'done by a licensed 'hauler, got there late and therefore we couldn't start on time. But otherwise I think we did a terrific job and I want to thank all the people who,_worked and those would be the people--and l'd like this for the record: Jim McMahon, Ruth Oliva, Jean Tiedke, and our own Jean Cochran, who spent time up there, Gail Horton, and Heather Cusack, of course, all the people under our Hi§h- way Superintendent at the Landfill there, Ray Jacobs. So I want to thank you. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you,. Paul. Anything else? COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: No, that's it. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Jean? COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Yes, on September 2nd I did attend the meeting relating, to the protection of Hallocks Bay, and I'm pleased to hear that a meetin§ is set up with the landowers. I hope it will be successful. On the 3rd I sat in with other Board members in interviewinq engineers in relation to our Landfill, and the future and the DEC process that we will have to go through. On the 4th I attended a meeting of the Landfill Committee, and the respective Chairmen will be reporting on these committees. I also had the pleasure on Saturday of attending the Southold Fire Department's 100th Anniversary, which was not only an enjoyable day, but it was also a very well organized event and they're a credit to the community, believe me. Also, as Paul mentioned, i did stop up to the STOP. P.r09ram--a little play on words there--and, of course, Paul had everything well in hand, and Paul it was a job well done. You did a very nice job. I had a call at dinner hour when I was home iust now from the Cutchogue Gun Club and they asked me to share this with the Board, that on October 15th they are co-sponsorin§ with the Conservation Department, a o~ne night seminar on the identification of waterfowl, and they thought that if the Board was interested that they were more than welcome, and it is open to the public. It will be a slide and movie presentation, and it sounded like something that might be nice to attend. Thank you, Frank. SUPERVISOR~,MURPHY: Thank you, Jean. Judge Edwards? JUSTICE EDWARDS: Thank you, Frank. To begin with everyone has positive comm~ ~; here and I hate to be the breaker here, but Ive got some negative stuff. One of th~ ~ reasons that I come out with these negative comments is because this is the only time we can get anything on record, because everything is put down in the minutes of this meeting and it's signed and sealed and it's down there. Number one, we have a Waste- water Disposal District on the Island there's quite'a few people that are involved in it over there as taxpayers, and our Supervisor went over to the Island a couple of weeks ago to finalize some paperwork on it and I was not notified. I had no idea he was over there. I had no idea this was being done, and I was approached by constituents for the past two weekends on how much it's going to cost every year, and I have no idea. And t didn't know until the Board meeting today. Secondly, I was at the September 2nd Hallocks Bay meetin, g and I can see why some of these property owners were upset, because not all of them were notified of this. It was a meeting that was held and certain people were invited in. A lot of people weren't. It's a good thing. I enjoyed the meeting. There's a lot of positive things came out of it, but I think it was poorly organized in the beginning. Now, on the--I believe it's the 29th--is it the 29th, George, that we're having this Water Advisory Committee coming in to ask questions? COUNCILMAN PENNY: Public informational meeting will be the 29th. JUSTICE EDWARDS: Public informational meeting on the 29th answering some questions on water supplies here on the Island, and I guarantee it will not be as political as the meeting that I attended on 9/3 of the Le.ague of Women Voters. I was completely disgusted in there. I had a personal invitation from the League of Women Voters. I stood in the back of the room down there. I had my hand up for fifteen minutes trying to get a question across to the moderator of the meeting and she did not recognize me at one i time. The person on my left had three different opportunities to speak. The person on my right had two opportunities to ask questions. I was neglected and I turned around and walked out of there, and I certainly hope--but I know that on the 29th the people are going to have a better meeting here at the Town Hall and better questions will be answered and it will not be as political as that one. And also on 9/24 the land- owners at Hallocks Bay i'm going to try and make that one because I believe there's a lot of people that still have questions about what's going on down there, and I'm glad this one is going to have some publicity before hand so that we can get some groups in there. Thank you, Frank. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you for your comments, sir. Jay? COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Nothing, Frank, thank you. SUPEi~VISOR MURPHY: George?---Jay, we were waiting for you. COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Landfill. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: You've got to say something. Two people referred to you. Go ahead. COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: All right. We had a Landfill meeting on September the 3rd. We're going to amend the Landfi ll ' Law pertaining to gas tanks and other tanks. We've limited it to not having tanks up there. There are people who are having to get their gas tanks out of the ground and bring them ap to the Landfill. We can't handle it. Wl~'ve barred them, but we're going to allow--we're going to amend it tonight to allow it for 550 gallons or under tanks to be allowed at the Landfill. Anything above that you'll have to take care of it yourselves. Brush coming into the Landfill. Question, where's the brush coming from? It's coming from out of town. It seems that Southampton is going now to prohibit any brush from being into their Land- fill. They're requiring them to go to a private contractor to get rid of it. There might be a possibility that that brush will find its way over to Southold Town, and the booth operators are to be alerted to check and find out where the brush is coming from by asking the operator and then hopefully be able to make a phone call on a spot check basis to the owner of the premises from which the brush originated. We went into the situation with regards to disposal of the waste from Eastern Long Island Hospital. I think we finally got that straightened out. And then we discussed some rather serious personnel problems that we were experiencing up at the Landfill, and vis-a-vis equip- ment that exists on the Landfill~ Likewise I attended the interviews with reqards to the engineers who may or may not be selected for the purposes of implementing a resource recovery operation at the Landfill~ I found it very instructive, very enlight- ening. It answered a lot of questions. We started off on the first interview not knowing too much, but by the time we got down to the third interview you had more pertinent questions and some more information was attained. It's a very big undertaking, and as I've stressed for the last year, the biggest thing facing this Town is it's Landfill. Garbage is the biggest issue I can see for this Town. Thank you, Frank. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, Jay. George? COUNCILMAN PENNY: Yes. On the 27th I attended a meeting of the Police Committee. The main concern seems to have been the discussion of the current drug situation and growth in this area. Hiring two new policemen. Trying to monitor the out of town dumping in our Landfill, and having the police watch this also, and to set up a committee to meet with the PBA for contract negotiations. On the 2nd I meet :with the architect and the crew at the Peconic Center. The work is under way. We've got some small problems that keep popping up. The work is still'in progress. There has been only one person working on that site up until now and we're inspiring the contractor to please send more people down there. We came up with a proposal today, or hopefully to do some further work on this, but this will have nothing to do with this initial work which should be buttoned up, hopefully by the end of the month. On the 2nd also I attended the Critical Area Designation, which has been discussed previously. On the -3rd the Police Committee also spent the morning with Chief Winters reviewing the PBA contract. On the 3rd we had Town Board interviews with the engineers for a Town permit application for a 360 Permit for our new landfill system, which is yet to be decided. On the 3rd also I attended, and participated in, the League Water Forum, which was held in Cutchogue. There were some questions fielded by the audience. My only disappointment, which I alluded to that evening, was the fact that the idea of that meeting was supposed to bring in some possible alternatives to people or groups, or different ideas of who could supply water to the area, but that's not the way the evening worked out. There were no new groups brought in. There seemed to be a contingent here from the South Fork that has been in battle with the Suffolk County Water Authority, and they were the only people that showed up. So it was slightly less productive then it could hawe been and I'm looking forward to our oPe_n meeting here on the 29th so that people can get some answers. On the 4th I attended a Landfill Committee meeting which Jay just reported on, and today we had a couple of very productive work sessions. One regarding Kenneys Beach, and the Town will be following up with a committee to investigate the shoreline problems in the Kenneys Beach area and how we can go about correcting them and working with the public, because some of this property concerns are ours and some of it is private concern, so a group will be formed and hopefully we'll have a better idea on that at the next meeting. On the 16th we have a meeting with the DEC to discuss some Coastal Erosion Management regulations which some of tl~e local civic groups are a little dis- gruntled with. The Kenneys Beach Association, the West Mattituck Inlet Association, and the Rabbit Lane Association had, representatives here today inspiring the Town Board to take the lead on this, and I hope we'll have more information on this follow- ing next Tuesday. And that's it. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, George. I would just like to add one little item. I appeared before the Health Committee of the Suffolk County Legislature yesterday requesting funding for the extension of the basic hospital care and doctor's care from Riverhaad out to Southampton Hospital, and to Greenport Hospital, to make sure fund- ing was in the budget for next year, as well as increased funding for our program, stressi.n.g the need that we're doing a decent job here and that all we need really is 154 SEPTEMBER 9, 1986 more aid and we could do an even better job. I would like to thank Paul and Heather in particular for spending all day Saturday down at the Landfill collecting the hazardous waste. Jean and I and Jay enjoyed the parade and we had a good time there and went down later to keep you company, but thanks for doing a good iob, as well as the entire committee for arranging this and putting in a lot of work for many weeks before. And Paul asked-me to comment on the position of the DEC on making the facility available so that this could be done year around. If you take Paul's report and find out there's an awful lot of material that we could probably store down there in an enclosed room, protected, locked and all that, and do a good job, be much less expensive for the Town, but unfortunately we would be labeled as a hazardous waste site and we cannot afford the insurance policy alone for it, or the designation. So the DEC is actively working to try to change the law and one of the first areas they would like to target this progr~a~m is in Southold Town, basicall.y, because of our cooperation with them and our cooperati~;i:t in this STOP Program. They re very anxious to do it 'and I think it might work out a~'; It's someth.ng that has a lot of hope for the future. The only other comment I'd like make is where Jay alluded to about Southampton had a public hearing today on banning the brush. It's starting out here and Jay said la'r~dfills are our biggest program. We've got to realize it and we have to start addressing the problem. By Southampton doing this is only causing--going to cause a lot more problems for Southold and I think we all have to address them. II. PUBLIC NOTICES SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Moving on on the agenda to Item II is Public Notices. The only one today is (1) a notice from the Department of Transportation that the plans and specifications for straightening out of Route 25, from the Rail Road bridge in Laurel half way to Aldrich Lane, will be available to be shown and discussed with the people from 1:00 o'clock to 8:00 o'clock in our Tourist Information Booth in Laurel. Anyone who's interestect in the project, take a look at it. One aspect of straightening that you don't realize, the elevation of the road directly in front of the booth, which appears to be at ground elevation to the booth, will be raised 18 inches to ~ive the proper alignment on this road. So take a look at it. It's very interesting, and hopefully 'it will make the road a lot safer for us. III. COMMUNICATIONS SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Moving on to Communications, Number III. 1. From Pecj Katzenberc, t on the Substance Abuse Awareness Week, to start Sunday, November 16th. The Planning Committee with Dr. Helen Price as Chairman has been meeting since June. Committee members and the groups they represent are listed at the end of this letter, and we ask everybody to support and work towards this. They're asking churches, schools, everyone. I think the development in Mattituck yesterday really brings up the need for doing something about drugs. This young man evidentially was very high on drugs and it really is a shame that for ten or twelve years this has been going on with him and it ended up with him shooting a person. In that same area in Mattituck there was a boy several years ago, a very bright young lad, who was on drugs and tried to commit suicide. There was another boy, an extremely bright person, who is a completely ruined person, right in that same neighborhood, because of drugs. I think something has to be done. I compliment Peg for the job she's doing and CAST, but it's a job that we all have to cooperate with and do some- thing about before it's too late. Before we have many more instances like yesterday. JUSTICE EDWARDS: Frank, you didn't mention this Communication No. 2 from the County. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I'm sorry. From the DEC on dredging. We discussed it at the work session. JUSTICE EDWARDS: Oh, you don't want to mention it tonight? COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: It was under Communications. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: There is--this correspondence is in Judy Terry's office and can be read. (2) It's concerning dredging and the DEC. A new requirement that they're looking for before they grant permits. John Guldi is working with them. Anyone who's interested in these, in particular the Trustees, we're going to ask them to review this and talk to John Guldi and talk to the DEC. IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS SUPERVISOR MURPHY: There is one public hearing at 8:00 o'clock. V. RESOLUTIONS SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We'll move on to Resolutions, Item V. Before we have our public hearing we have a few minutes.. I would iust to state, for people i'n the audience, the Town policy. Any resolution that's on the agenda anyone can make a comment on the resolutions that are on the agenda betore we start on Item V on the agenda. I'd ask anyone who would like to comm~irYt tU:t~l~'6"Y~Wn::Board on any other matter to hold off until after the meeting when we'll open it up for any comments from anyone in the audience about anything they want to say to the Town Board at the Town Board or whatever. So, at this point I'd like to ask anyone in the audience if they would like to make a comment on any of the proposed resolutions that's on the agenda? On my left? Center? Over on the right? Anyone? FRANK CARLIN: Frank, does that include the Dog Shelter? SUPERVISOR MURPHY: That's not on the agenda--on the resolutions. Okay, moving on to resolutions. The first one is to authorize the execution of a budget modification. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and direct Supervisor Francis J. Murphy to execute a Budget Modification Request with respect to the County of Suffolk/Town of Southold 1986 (~ntract for the Nutrition Program; which modification results in a zero net change. 1.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 2 is to set a public hearing on a proposed Local Law. 2. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, WHEREAS, there has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold a proposed Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in relation to stop and yield intersections · and pa~kin9 of motor vehicles", now, therefore, be it RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby sets 8:00 P.M., Tuesday, September 23, 1986, Southold Town Hall, Main'Road, Southold, New York, as time and place for a public hearing on the aforesaid proposed Local Law which reads as follows, to wit: LOCAL LAW NO. ~1986 A Local Law in relation to stop and yield intersections and parkin9 of motor vehicles BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows: (additions indicated by underline; deletions by [brackets]) Chapter 92 (Vehicles and Traffic) of the Code of the Town of Southold is amended as follows: I. Section 92-30 (Stop intersections) is amended b y adding thereto the following: Di rection At Intersection Nam e of Street of t ravel wi th Location Beckwith Avenue North Traveler Street Southold II. Section 92-32 (Yield Intersections) is amended by deleting therefrom the following: Direction At I ntersection Name of Street of travel with Location [Beckwith Avenue North Traveler Street Southold] i11. Section 92-43 (Parking for limited time only) is amended by adding thereto the following: Between Time Name of,Street Side the Hours of Limit Youngs Avenue West 8:00 A.M. & 2 hours 6:00 P.M. Location In Southold between N.Y. Route 25 and Mechanic Street IV. This Local Law shall take effect.upon its filing with the Secretary of State. 2.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 3 is to create two more police officer positions. Moved' by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby creates two new positions of Police Officer; starting salary of $7,500.00. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, you might notice that the starting salary is $7,500.00. This is done to create a local list and local people would stay with this. There's two trains of thought on this and we are staying with $7,500.00. 3.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Cot~ncilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. Abstain: Council- woman Cochran. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 4is to renew a trailer permit. 4. Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was RESOLVED that the ap_plicat!o_n of Alfred W. Steiner for renewal of a single family 156 SEPTEi~I:BE R :9.~ i:1986 house trailer permit, for trailer located at a right-of-way off of the south side of Main Road, Mattituck, New York, which permit expires on September 21, 1986, be and hereby is granted for a six (6) month period. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Any questions? (No response.) 4,-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 5 is to appoint an Assistant Cook for the Nutrition Program. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Emily T. Borkowski as an Assistant Cook for the Southold Town Nutrition Proqram, effecti~,e September 15, 1986, $6.00 per hour, 35 hours per week. 5.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 6 is to appoint a Home Aide for the Southold Town Senior Adult Day Care Center. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Alberta Bonkoski as a Home Health Aide for the Southold Town Senior Adult Day Care Center, effective September 15, 1986, $3.35 per hour, 10 hours per week~. 6.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, C~uncil- man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 7 is. to renew another trailer permit. 7. Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was RESOLVED that the applicastion of Martin Sidor for renewal of a s~ngle family house t~ailer permit, l~or trailer located at the south side of Oregon Road, Mattituck, New York, which permit expires on September 23, 1986, be and hereby is granted for a six (6) month period. 7.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, it's now 8:00 o'clock. I'd like a resolution to recess for the time it takes to hold a public hearing. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was RESOLVED that a recess be called at this time, 8:00 ~.M'., for the purpose of. ho[d- ir~g a public hearing on a proposed "Local Law to provide for the regulation of public assemblies", Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. Meeting reconvened at 8:30 P,M. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Resolution Number 8 is to accept a bid. 8. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby acce. pts the bid of H.. O. Penn Machinery co., Inc., Holtsville, New York, for reairs to the D6 Bulldozer located at the Southold Town Landfill Site, at a cost of $13, 920.00. 8.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Supervisor Murphy. Abstain: Justice Edwards. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 9 is to appoint a part-time evening stenographer. 9. Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Nadia M. Moore as a part-time evening stenographer for the Town, effective immediately, at a salary of $7.50 per hour. 9.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 10 is to appoint a Bay Constable. SEPTEMBER 9, 1986 157 10. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh~, ~d'e~l by'CounCilwoman Cochran, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Kent B. McCarthy as Bay Constable from the Suffolk County Department of Civil Service Centification of Eligibles, effective September 9, 1986, at a salary of $9.39 per hour, ($19,531.20 per annum). 10.-Vote of the' Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 11 is to authorize an advance from the General Fund Whole Town Account. 11. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the advance of $5,000.00 from General Fund Whole Town Account to Community Development Year 11 for a partial final payment on the 7th Street Sewer Proiect; said funds to be reimbursed by Community Development within the next four to six weeks. 11.~Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 12 is to appoint a part-time Gate Attendant. 12. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Frank Grigonis as a Gate, Attendant for the Southold Town Disposa! Area, effective August 16, 1986, at a salary of $5.00 per hour. 12.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 13 is to authorize an allocation to the East End Arts and Humanities Council. 13. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby allocates $500.00 from A7320, Joint Youth Pro~rams, to the East End Arts and Humanities Council, for the purpose of supporting the inter-arts program for disadvantac~ed minority children in Southold Town~ said program to be conducted at CAST b~ginning in September, and will provide 32 hours of activity using music, movement, and dance skills designed to build cultural pride, confidence, and develop creative expression. 13.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, CouncilWoman Cochran, Council- man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR-MURPHY: NumSer ~4 is to appoint Mini-Respite Aides to the program. 14. Moved by Coun~cilman Penny, seconded by Councilman Stoutenbu~'gh, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Debra Wilson and Sabrina Crenshaw as Mini-Respite Aides for the Mini-Respite Program, effective September 15, 1986, $4.00 per hour, 10 hours per week. 14.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 15 is to grant permission to attend a conference. 15. Moved by Councilman Schond~bare, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby ~rants permission to Assessor Scott L. Harris to attend a Conference on Assessment Administration at Kutscher's Country Club, Monticello, New York, from September 30, 1986 through October 3, 1986, and the cost for the conference in the amount of $310.00, as well as all necessary expenses for meals, travel and lodging shall be a legal charge against the Town of Southold. 15.-Vote of ~he Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Schondebare, Councilman Stoute~nburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR ML~RPHY: Number 16 is to authorize the ~own Clerk to advertise notice of a pending informational meeting ~o be held by the Town. 16. Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was RESOLVED that the Town BOard of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to give notice of a Public Informational Meetinc~ with respect to the Town's Drinking Water Supply_, to be held at 7:30 P.M., Monday, September 29, 1986, at the Southold Town Hall~-Main Road, Southold, New Y~rk, at which time representatives of the Suffolk County Water Authority, Department of Health Services, and Planning Department will be in attendance to answer questions from the public. 16.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 17 is to authorize a transfer of Town Hall personnel. 17, Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the transfer of Sylvia Rouse, Clerk Typist in the Office of the Board of Assessors, to the Accountincj Departmen. t,' effective immediately. 17.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 18 is to grant a salary increase. 18. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants Executive Administrator Victor G. Lessard a salary increase from $28,890.00 to $32,500.00, retroactive to January 1, 1986. 18.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. Abstain: Council- man Penny. ~This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 19 is to establish a base salary. 19. Moved by CouncilWoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby establishes a base salary (with applicable step increases) of $23,860.00 for the newly created position of Senior Building Inspector. 19.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards. Abstain: Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 20 is to authorize the execution of an agreement. 20. Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Councilman Penny, WHEREAS, on December 20, 1983, an agreement was executed between the Town of Southold and the Village of Greenport whereby the Village will operate, maintain and manage a wastewater pretreatment facility at the site of the Greenport Sewage Treatment Plant at Moore's Lane, Greenport, New York, which facility will treat scavenger waste from Southold Town at no cost to Greenport Village, and WHEREAS, the engineering firm of Holzmacher, McLendon & Murrell, P.C. prepared a Section 201 Wastewater Facility Plan, and therein a report entitled, "Alternatives Evaluation and Environmental Assessment Report", dated June, 1982, recommended that the most cost effective/environmentally acceptable alternative for the Town of Shelter Island was to dispose of scavenger waste at the Southold Pretreatment Facility, and WHEREAS, the parties hereto desire to implemtn the recommendations of the afore- said Holzmacher, McLendon & Murrell, P.C. report, NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor Francis J. Murphy to execute an agreement, on behalf of the Town of Southold, between the Village of Greenport and Town of Shelter Island whereby the Village of Greenport and Town of Southold will accept scavenger waste from the Town of Shelter Island, subject to the conditions of the aforesaid agreement. COUNCILMAN $CHONDEBARE: Has this been reviewed by Bob and approved? TOWN CLERK IERRY: Very definitely he has. ! went over it with him today, and we've been holding this for a while because they were waiting to see if Shelter Island was satisfied with it. 20.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 21 is to set a public hearing on a proposed Local Law. 21. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, WHEREAS, there has been presented to the Town Board of the Town of Southold a proposed Local Law entitled, "A Local Law in relation to the disposal of discarded vehicles and discarded fuel tanks at the Town Refuse Disposal Area?, now, there- fore, be it ,, 15 9 RESOLVED that the Town Board I~:~'~ 8:0S P.M., Tuesday, September 23, 1986 Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York, as time and place for a public hearin9 on the aforesaid'proposed Local Law which reads as follows, to wit: LOCAL LAW NO. - 1986 A Local Law in relation to the disposal of discarded vehicles and discarded fuel tanks at the Town Refuse Disposal Area BE IT ENACTED by the Town BOard of the Town of Southold as follows: [addition indicated by underline) I. Section 48-3 [D.) [Town refuse disposal area) of Chapter 48 of the Code of the Town of Southold is amended by adding thereto the following: D. The attendant at the Town refuse area is authorized to prohibit the disposal of discarded motor vehicles and/or discarded fuel tanks having a capacity in excess of 550 gallons at the refuse disposal area. II. This-Local Law shall take effect upon its filing with the Secretary of State. 21 .-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUIPERVISOR MURPHY: Jay, would you like to act on that proposed Local Law where we had the public hearing on tonight, or would you rather discuss it? COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: It goes back to the Code Committee. COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Well, I think it needs revision, but I think we better be aware of the fact that at the present time none of these activities are allowed. And remember that we put this in--as funny as it may seem--wi~h the idea that it's going to be a restriction on the rights--and in fact there are none in these zones. So if we do have people who want to put on an affair, etcetera, at the present time they have to go to the ZBA. They have to ask for a variance. They have to have a public hearing. Give notice to the neighbors. Publish in the paper, and wait a Ion~g period of time in order to have a permit issued by the ZBA to conduct these affairs. We did this with the idea that we would speed the process up and allow a means by which it could be done more quickly. If you don't want to move on it then we're back where we were, and that is these activities are prohibited, which got us into trouble to begin with. So, the choice is ours. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Why don't we try working with Boba little more and come up with something a little more workable. COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: You could either go for it with the understanding, to the people in the group, that we all recognize it needs work and to amend it. But at least we have something in place upon which to act upon when we have a request. Or we send it back to the Code Committee and we can keep it there for another month and keep your fingers crossed that in the next couple of months nobody comes in and wants to do anything, because they're precluded from doing it. COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Why can't we set a meeting of the Code Committee within the next week and try to move it through faster than that, Jay? COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Well, we'll have to set it back in again and then publish it again and have another hearing again and we're back to that again. COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: I know, with the time frame, I know it's going to be another month. COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: It's viewed as being a restriction, whereas we did it in order to open it up. Allow things that were not allowed, and what we are doing is we're going to preclude these people. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I know the intent, and what we were trying to accomplish, I~guess is more problems with trying to accomplish it then with not being able to do it. COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: If you accomplish it you'll withstand the criticism that it seems to be_restrictive, but at least you have something in place to allow people Lo do it. If-you don't enact anything, then theytre precluded from doing it, and the choice is yours. I don't plan on having any affair myself: SUPERVISOR.MURPHY: I think we've managed for a good many years. I would rather go back to the Code Committee. COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: So would I. COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, At this time I would like to ask say? George? Okay. JAil agreed.) that's the end of our amended and prepared agenda. first the Councilmen if they have anything further to COUNCILMAN PENNY: No, nothing further at this time, except that about this discussion that we've had on this Local Law. It's been misinterpreted, and I think just a clarification, a statement of intent, and some simple clarification would probably clean it up. There again we have delt without it, but we've delt without it rather naively in the past and it's only been brought to our attention with recent proposals that we lacked the facility to handle these things. So I've got really mixed emotions about the whole thing, but 1'11 go with the entire wishes of the Town Board on this, and if they want to send it back to committee we can. I don't see any real problem with this. Like I said before, a few simple clarifications will alleviate the concerns of the people out here in the audience because this was never meant to include private functions and things which are consistent with the zoning in your property, which Bob Tasker has told us time and time again, include weddings and other festivities which ~ are normal, even though occasional uses of a residential parcel of property. I have nothing more at this time. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Jay? COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Nothing, Frank. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Paul? COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I'm just a little disappointed that our lawyer had presented something that has to be changed. My concern was, and it was brought up by the Planning Board, that these certain items were recommended to be changed and he said it Wasn't necessary, and now we find we do need to do it. I'm a little disappointed, that's all. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Jean? COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: I would just like to add that I think~the cleanest way to do it is to send it back to the Code Committee and come up with an ordinance that everyone understands and will help put into place the allowing ~he public permission to do these things. We've been living without it 'for quite some time and if we can get through anothe~r moT~th, Frank, in addition the heaviest part of our service clubs and our volunteer groups in fund raising is past us, and we'll try to move it as quickly as we can. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, Jean. Ray? JUSTICE EDWARDS: My only question on this public assembly is now if a group wants to have a public assembly they have to go tothe ZBA? COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: That's correct. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Always had to do that. JUSTICE EDWARDS: Okay, now with this new Local Law then if they wanted a public assembly they would .lust have to go to where, the Town Clerk? TOWN CLERK TERRY: Town Board. Well, they'd file an application with me, and then it would be presented to you. JUSTICE EDWARDS: The only thing I can say there, it's true there are some wording problems that have to be straightened out in the Local Law, but I think that if the Local Law were passed it would make it a lot easier for a person to come to the Town Board to get a permit then to go through the Zoning Board of Appeals, in due respect that we would change the wording in there. That's the only reason that if it called for a vote that I would have gone along with voting for the public law, with the amend- ment coming _in due course. Thank you, Frank. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you. At this point in time I would like to ask anybod~t in the audience if they would like to comment to the Town Board on any matter? On my left? Mrs. Hogan. Please stand up, use the microphone and identify yourse f. For the record. We do know who you are, but we want the people forever to know. CHRISTINA HOGAN: I would just like to ask--we're referring to a point where people have to go to the Zoning Board of Appeals. How many people have gone to the Board of Appeals? COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: One, I think. '[he Kenyon Tuthill one is the only one. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: And we waived that. CHRISTINA HOGAN: And you waived that. TOWN CLERK TERRY: No, only the fee was waived. They had the hearing. SEPTEMBER 9, 1986 161 CHRISTINA HOGAN: .Well, I don,~t~.t~hin~.that there, s a pressing need for it. We've had one, possibly two. The pressing needlis not there. COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: You're saying that everyone has ignored the law in the past, so let's keep ignoring the law in the future? CHRISTINA HOGAN: Well, in reference to this Local Law, we've certainly seen it two different ways. Perhaps the way the Code reads now can be read two different ways. We're looking at one interpretation. When we looked at the proposed Local Law many people read one interpretation into it. A great many people here read another interpretation into it, and perhaps that's the way ~he Zoning Code has been read in the past. Thatfs ail l'd like to add. Thank you. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you. Mr. Carlin? FRANK CARLIN: Good evening ladies and gentlemen of the Board. My name's Frank Carlin from Laurel. I have two suggestions and one question. I'll save the heavy one for the last. Frank, is there any way we can put in the paper a local notice that any- one that's caught damaging Town property will be subject to a penalty. For example, worked worked hard to get that Laurel bridge raised there, and if you all notice if you ride by there they're spraying it up with paint, and it looks like--it's a disgrace. Can't we reinforce that a little more by putting a public notice in the paper? Anyone caught will be subject to a penalty. You cannot make these people work off this--these problems, because it wouldn't be worth it for the Town, and if they get hurt then the Town's liable for a law suit and we have enough law suits now. But isn't it possible-that something could be put in'the local papers to this effect? SUPERVISOR MURPHY: I don't know really the effect of another add, except you just spend the money. It is part of the Code--part of the Penal Code, and the people are prosecuted. We had five young juveniles that were in Justice Court on Friday that were each sentenced to restitution for doing something similar to that. When they get caught they c~et the message. FRANK CARLIN: It's hard to catch them. I don't know how they can spray that thing upside down. One of these days they're going to go flying over there and going to land under somebody's car. COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: That's the challenge, Frank. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Don't offer it as a challenge or we'll have more. COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Frank, the way that some communities have solved that problem, they've made contact with the local schools and had the young people do murals on these places and all right you halve an attractive mural on it, but you no longer have the graffiti. MR. CARLIN: You know you see all the subways in New York are sprayed graffiti, but there's no reason why a nice Town like Southold should have it sprayed on the bridge. It's nicely freshly painted and it looks good, you know. COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: You have counties and towns that have banned the sale of the spray paint. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: A little inside information on that one. When that bridge was raised the Highway Superintendent painted the bridge. Right after they finished the contract the Long Island Rail Road came around and repainted the bridge under a regular maintenance program. Since then we've had the graffiti. FRANK CARLIN: Yes, but they were spraying on it before that though. They've been spraying it quite well for the fact that I think it's been painted three times. Okay, number two is a question for you, Frank. You mentioned ten acres for affordable housing--is that behind the Information Center there in Laurel there? SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Frank, I was using an example of unused Town property as beir~g possible uses for--and I believe the story got a little out of context. We discussed a five acre piece also today to use--yes, it was the piece across the street from you, yes. As a possibility. FRANK CARLIN: That's not the old Catholic Charities~roperty? SUPERVISOR MURPHY: No. This is our property. COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Behind the play field. FRANK CARLIN: Because that's been sold. Been sold to a man named Jack McFeeley. I met him a week ago. He owns that property. But I don't know if you understand that property now. When you look at the property it's a lot of hills and gullies and I don't know you would ever put homes in there. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We were talking about the concept of using properties like that. FRANK CARLIN: Now the heavy one. I don't know if I should say this or not. I've been considering this, but it dawned on me and I don't say it I won't be able to sleep tonight. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Say it. COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: We want you to sleep. FRANK CARLIN: Yeah, thank you. It's been noticed recently that the bids have been coming in the Town high on projects, especially the Dog Shelter. I believe one came in at $233,000, one came in at $165,000. That's no wheres near the $125,000 that you're looking for. So it dawned on me--this is only my idea now. I mean, I can make mistakes. Don't get me wrong now. It dawned on me why this might could be happening. Maybe all the contractors are afraid to take the job, because maybe they won't get paid. Look what happened to the contractors that did your office. Nine months and they're still not paid. COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: That's really reaching. That was heavy, Frank. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, is there anyone else on the left? Ed. EDWARD SIEGMANN: Mr. Chairman, I heard two reports tonight on the water meeting that was held by the League of Women Voters. I think it Would only be proper that somebody would also make a report that was at that meeting and attended it as one of the people who wanted to ask questions, and my main objection to the meeting was, and we were there in a group from up around the Carr property, 10ecause we have an ongoing problem. We wanted to get some answers in reference to what would happen if they put a water district up there--Pm talking about the Suffolk County Water Authorit~ and if it affected other people in the area--what the Suffolk County Water Authority would do for those other people in'the area. We left there very disappointed, only because we got no answers from the Suffolk County Water Authority. We also felt that the answers that we got from the gentleman who was there representing the Health Department sure weren't the proper answers to give us when we asked about certain things that the builder would have a right to do, when the question was turned arou~t ~ to us and we were asked, "Well, don't you believe that a man has a right to do with his property what he wants?", and I think that this is a wrong way for them to answer us because not everybody can do everything they want with their property, if I build along side of an airport I can't put a big tower up, and if I do a lot of other things I'm restricted from doing them. So I think, and I'm hoping, that in the meeting that you people call, that the Water Authority, or whoever, has questions asked to them that they would be able to answer these questions, that we wouldn't leave the meeting just as naive as when we came in in reference to what they would do with certain problems that we have, and I for one for the people who attended there that night from the area that I live in, would like to thank the League of Women Voters for calling the meeting, because at least we felt that we had some place to turn to to get the answers, and now that you're going to call a meeting maybe we can get the answers at that meeting. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you. I hope so. Any other comments on the left? Anyone in the middle would like to address the Board? Ruth? RUTH OLIVA: You know, so often we tend to criticize our young people, and I think when our young people do something that's commendable it should be noticed, and I would like to express my appreciation to the two young men who were doing community service down at the Landfill during our 'STOP Program. They were absolutely super. You didn't ha've to ask them to do something, they just jumped in. They helped the people take the things out of the cars, sorted things, for us, and really worked their tails off, at least as far as when I was there, and I think they should be commended for their accomplishments. Thank you. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We'll tell the Judge. COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Ruth, I've already spoken to someone and they're sending a letter to that effect. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: The Judge will hear about it. JUSTICE EDWARDS: I have heard comments on those two gentlemen from other people also. The good job that they're doing. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Anyone-else in the middle like to address the Town Board? Anyone on the'right? If not I think a motion for adjournment is in order. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was RESOLVED that this Town Board meeting be and hereby is adjourned at 9:00 P.M.'. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man $chondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. ~ ~Judith T. Terry Southold Town Clerk