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SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
JULY 15, 1986
WORK SESSION
Present;-~'Supervisor Francis J. Murphy, Justice Raymond W. Edwards,
Councilman Paul Stoutenburgh, CouncilWoman Jean W. Cochran, Councilman
George L. Penny IV, Town Clerk 'Judith T. Terry, Town Attorney Robert W.
Tasker. (Absent: Councilman James A. Schondebare)
9:20 A.M. - Samuel Markel, Chairman of the Grievance Review Board appeared
before the Town Board to protest the placement of the Review Board in the Town
Board Room for Gr~ievance Day (today). He stated he had made arrangements for
use of the Meeting Hall for this purpose several weeks ago. The Review Board
expects at least 100 people from one one area in Mattituck. Mr. Markel read from
the Real Property Tax Law stating the minimum requirements for the hearing room,
and the Board Room is not satisfactory to the Review Board. Supervisor Murphy
advised Mr. Markel that 'the Town' Board would vacate the Meeting Hall when the
anticipated large group of people arrive.
9:25 A.M. - Mary Ann Fleischmann, Southold Town Youth Counselor, along with
Joe Grissino, Matthew Valyo, Michelle Smiley and Gil McLean, met with the Town i ~
Board to discUss the proposed roCk concert to be dedicated to the memory of'the L.,,..i
four young people recently killed in automobile accidents. Gil 'and Michelle explain-~''''-~
ed the scope of the proposal and Ms. Fleischmann outlined the arrangements for
the concert to be held either at the Greenport American Legion Hall or on Mattituck
Park District property. She stated local business people are willing to pay the cost
of insurance to cover the event which is to be held on August 10th, from 2,:00 to
6:00 P.M., and six bands have ~/oluhteered to pay to an audience of 300 youth.
Councilman Stoutenburgh said they have his 100% support, but urged them to main-
tain tight control of the event. Councilman Penny said he would have no objection
as long as they have approval from the property owners where the event it so be
held, hold harmless insurance, and emergency provisions.
9:40 A.M. - Robert Webb, President of SEACOM, met with the Board to urge a
referendum at the general election in November to determine whether Southold
Town favors the take over of LILCO by a Southold Town municipal electric company.
The question of a Long Island Power Authority embarking on the same project was
discussed by the Board, as well as the accuracy of the figures in the R. W. Beck
municipal electric study, which figures are needed for the proposition to be sub-
mitted to the voters. Another consideration that must be resolved is whether the
Village of Greenport will become a part of the electric district. Supervisor Murphy
will arrange a meeting between the Town and Village Boards to resolve this question.
10:05 A.M. - Michael Zweig appeared before .the Board to make his preliminary __
presentation with' ~-espect to a wine and grape industry study he is ~conducting for ~'"-~
the Town. Tom Junor of the County IDA office was .n attendance dur.ng th~s '~ ~i
presentation. Mr. Zweig stated he has spoken and met with principals and managerkb--~'
of most of the vineyards on the North and South Forks, and has determined that
the wine and grape industry is legitimate and not a tax write-off for those businesses.
Mr. Zweig's hour long presentation touched on marketing, zoning, tourism, subsidiary
businesses related to wineries, all of which will be included in his final report.
11:05 A.M. - Architect Garrett Strang met briefly with the Board to review recommenda-
tions for an exit from the southwest basement of the Town Hall, and agreed to draw
a proposal for the Board's consideration.
11:45 A.M. - For Discussion Items: (1) The responsibility of the Town with respect
to burial grounds and cemeteries, and in particular the old cemetery at Browns Hills,
Orient. it was decided the Highway Department would be requested to clear and groom
this cemetery as the ownership Cbiai~ r~0i i~ determined. (2) ReqUest of Councilman
Stoutenburgh to amend the Bed and Breakfast Law to include licensing and review of
the licenses every two years. Board decided to wait and see how many requests for
bed and breakfast are received before moving forward. (3) Request of Samuel G.
Brown for Board to reconsider his application for a trailer permit (see resolution No.
18). (4) Request from Board of Appeals for advertisement for part-time evening
stenographer (see resolution No. 19). [5) Proposed job description for a Senior
Building Inspector - Councilmen Penny and Cochran to review with Executive Admin-
istrator Lessard. (6) Letter from H2M relative to 'punch list" for Ferrari Concrete,
general contractor for the Scavenger Waste Treatment Facility. To be discussed with
'George Desmarais at 2:10 P.M. (7a) Memorandum from Receiver of Taxes George
Mellas concerning a purchase order for envelopes for 1986-87 tax year. Supervisor
was waiting for outcome of State legislation relative to Deputy Tax Receivers. Town
Attorney Tasker has written to tha State Comptroller for an opinion. Board will
meeting with Mr. Mellas at their July 29th work session. (7] Request from Pindar
Vineyards for a special license to hold a Pindar Vineyards Lobster-Chardonnay
Festival on August 16th and 17th. Request withdrawn just prior to the work session.
[8) Request from the North Fork Friends of Kenyon Tuthill for a waiver of the filing
fee for an application to the Board of Appeals (see resolution No. 20). (9) Discussion
relative to loaning the Chiparvestor to the Fishers Island Sewer District (see resolution
No. 21 - transfer for use of the Highway Department on Fishers Island). Community
Development Administrator Jim McMahon advised the Board that the Chiparvestor was
purchased with Community Development funds and he has been advised by the County
Community Development Off, ice that if the Chiparvestor leaves the Landfill the Town
must reimburse the County for the purchase cost of the machine, and a confirming
letter will be forthcoming.---Board members discussed off-agenda items---Councilman
Penny's arrangements for a meeting with Sea Grant at Kenneys Beach prior to the
July 29th work session; Councilwoman Cochran's explanation relative to the removal
of the fur;niture from the Supervisor's Office, which she stated caused a hazard, and
her feelings relative to removal from the Buildings & Grounds Committee by the
Supervisor. She submitted her files with respect to projects in pro§ress by the
Committee.--The problem with respect to the County's refusal to dredge Deep Hole
Creek because there is no public access. Town Attorney Tasker was asked '~to draft
a resolution (no. 23) to the County Executive, Legislature and Planning Department
asking them to reconsider their policy.
1:10 P.M. - Recess for lunch.
2:10 P.M. - George W. Desmarais, P.E., Holzmacher, McLendon & Murrell, P.C.,
ai'ong with Greenport~.Village Superintendent of Utilities James Monsell, met with
the Board to discuss the Southold Scavenger Waste Treatment Facility--(1) "Punch
list" for general contractor Ferran Concrete Co., Inc. (letter to be sent to Ferran
by Town Attorney Tasker); (2) Options available for reducing the sound entering
the administration room from the air blower room (Town will install weatherstripping
and granulated insulation material as suggested by G. Desmarais to see if this will
solve the problem); (3) Question of the grade where carters' trucks discharge.
This must be corrected, but in the meantime Mr. Monsell has ordered flexible hose
to adapt to the discharge trucks; raising the fram and cover for the electrical man-
hole will be corrected by Mr. Monsell; installing gasket mater:iai on the hydrochloric
acid and ferric chloride vault accessways will be corrected by Mr. Monsell; chop a
two-inch seep sump in the chemical vault floors to allow for the portable sump pump
to operate properly and to remove all standing water on the vault floor will be done
by Mr. Monsell after consulting with Mr. Desmarais.---Scavenger Waste Carters
Richard Magill and Daysman Morris were in attendance at this meeting and made
suggestions with respect to the grade where the waste is discharged, and the hours
the plant is open - requesting a half hour longer to 5:00 P.M. Corrine Bednoski,
clerk at the plant spoke about the need for a computer and a clarification of certain
regulations.
3:30 P.M. - The Board reviewed regular meeting resolutions.
Executive Session: 4:15 P.M. - Councilman Penny apprised the Board of his progress
with the negotiations between the Town and the North Fork Animal Welfare League,
Inc. for their contract to manage the Dog 'Pound.
4:50 P.M. - Board audited outstanding vouchers.
5:15 P.M. - Work Session adjourned.
6 July 15, 1986
REGULAR MEETING
7:30 P.M.
A Regular Meetincj of the Southold Town Board was held on Tuesday, July 15.,
1986, at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York. Deputy Super-
visor Kujawski opened the meeting at 7:30 P.M. with the Pledge of Allegiance to the
Flag.
Present:
Deputy Supervisor Frank A. Kujawski, Jr.
Justice Raymond W. Edwards
Councilman Paul Stoutenburgh
Councilman James A. Schondebare
CouncilWoman Jean W. Cochran
Councilman George L. Penny IV
Town Clerk Judith T. Terry
Town Attorney Robert W. Tasker
Absent: Supervisor Francis J. Murphy
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKi: Supervisor Murphy tonight is at the Long
Island Parks Commission meeting at Jones Beach. I'm not sure how much of a
meeting it is, but I think he's listening a little bit to Glen Miller.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Nothing wrong with that.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSI: $0 in his absence I'll conduct the meeting. We
start with the approval of the audit of the bills of July 15th, 1986.
Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was
RESOLVED that the following, audited bills be and hereby are ordered paid: General
Fund Whole Town bill'~ in the amount of $64,461.20; General Fund Part Town bills i
the amount of $16,487.64; Highway Department bills in the amount of $21,052.40;
· rr District bills in the amount of 28,666 00; ~Farmland ~P~'~¢at;I
F~shers Island Fe y $ ,%:~
Fund bills in the amount of $1,682.50; Southold Wastewater Treatment Pla,nt~l~il'ls in
the amount of $1,708.91; Recreation Activity Fee Account bills in the amount of $52.96.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-
man Stoutenburgh, JustiCe Edwards,. Abstain: Councilman 5chondebare (absent
during the audit).
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Is there a motion for the approval of the minutes
of the regular meeting of July 1st, 19867
Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the Regular Meetinq of the Southold Town Board
held on July 1, 1986 be and hereby are aP. proved.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. _ .......
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI:
date for July 29th at 7:30 P.M.?
Could we have a motion to set the next meeting
Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was
RESOLVED that the next Regular Meeting of' the Southold Town Board will be held
at 7:30 P.M., Tuesday, July 29, 1986, at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road,
Southold, New York.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: I think Mrs. Cochran has a special proclamation.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: George, please come up. At the last B~ard meeting the
Town Board adopted a resolution making Mr. Yoerger's song, "Grand Old Southold",
the official song of Southold, and in recognition of this honor, on behalf of the Town
Board I would like to read to you the resolution.
MR. GEORGE A. YOERGER: If you call me "George" !'11 come up.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Would my friend, George Yoerger, please come forward?
July 15, 1986
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Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by the Entire Town Board,
WHEREAS, the Town Board of the Town of Southold wishes to honor GEORGE A.
YOERGER, the author of the Official Song and Poem of the Town of Southold
entitled, "GRAND OLD SOUTHOLD"; and
WHEREAS, GEORGE A. YOERGER was born in Broad River, Connecticut on October
1, 1895~, and at the age of three moved to Brooklyn where his father established a
physical culture and boxing school and George, at the age of five began his lessons
to master the art of fancy bagpunching, excelling to the point of making an appear-
ance at the original Madison Square Garden on March 13, 1903 at the age of seven
and a half years; and
WHEREAS, GEORGE A. YOERGER, during his early years developed a strong interest
in poetry and music and later the urge to write songs, and in 1920 wrote the lyrics
for two songs that were sung int he Broadway musical "Linger, Longer Letty,"
starring Charlotte Greenwood, who sang both songs, "A Twentieth Century Lullaby"
and "Slowtown is'JazztOwn Now"; and
WHEREAS, GEORGE A. YOERGER continued to write lyrics, poems and complete songs
throughout his enlistment in the U. S. Navy and his career as a salesman for paint,
enamels and varnish...his territory being Long Island from 1925 until 1967, with many
stops in "Grand Old Southold" Town, where he moved upon retirement; and
WHEREAS, GEORGE A. YOERGER has written several tributes to Southold Town,
among them "I'll Soon Be Marryin' Marion From Old East Marion," "The North Fork's
Grand Canyon" (otherwise known as the Town Dump), and the song and poem we
are immortalizing today - "GRAND OLD SOUTHOLD"; now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby pays tribute to
GEORGE A. YOERGER, a man whose love for SOuthold Town inspired him to write
the song a.nd .poem "GRAND OLD SOUTHOLD", the official son~l and poem of the
Town of Southold.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: George, our sincere congratulations. George is
going to sing the song for us.
MR. YOERGER: No. I'm going to pay it, the tape.
is on the tape. The whole works is there.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Okay, so it's all yours.
i'm singin~j it and the music
(Mr. Yoerger played the tape recording of "Gran~ Old Southold", sung by Mr.
Yoerger. )
"Hugged by the Sound, caressed by the Bay,
Oiur Grand Old Southold enthralls us today.
Grand Old Southold, the first English Town in New York,
Grand Old Southold, the gem of Long Island's North Fork.
Here's where they struggled to start life a new,
Here's where they worshipped their Gold.
Oh, what a privilege for me and for you
Just to gaze on the soil they once trod.
Grand Old Southold, today as in time times long gone by,
A paradise found on Got~'s hallowed ground,
And preserve it we must, you and I.
Yes, preserve it we must, you and I.
Grand Old Southold, today as in times long gone by,
A paradise found on God's hallowed ground,
And preserve it we must, you and I.
Yes, preserve it we must, you and I."
MR. YOERGER: I want to take this opportunity to thank the Board for their
thoughtfulness. ! appreciate it very much.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Well, it couldn't be to a better person, George.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: We thank you.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: You know my feelings.
MR. YOERGER: ! know this fellow a long, long time when I joined the Mattituck
Gun Club. He used to be a hunter. Now he became a conservationist.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: We shot many a rabbit together, didn't we?
MR. YOERGER; Yes, we did. And I said to Paul one time, "You know, I'd like
to come out here and do a little shooting," and he says, "Georger if you want to
come out sometime, get in touch with me." So we used to go out, me and Paul.
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COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: We used to shake them out under-the old buildings,
remember ?
MR. YOERGER: Oh, yes. We were not supposed to be there either. Remember?
Okay, now, ! want to thank the Board.
COI3NCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Do you know all the Board members? (Mr. Yoerger
was introduced to the Town Board, Town Attorney, Town Clerk.)
I.. REPORTS.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Okay, the next section of our meeting is on th~!~
I'd like to advise you that the reports 1 through 13 are available in Mrs.?%?. ~
reports.
Terry's office if you would Ilke to look them over.
1. Building Department monthly report for June, 1986.
2. Town Clerk's monthly report for June, 1986.
3. Southold Town Dog Shelter's monthly report for June, 1986.
4. Town Justice Tedeschi's monthly report for June, 1986.
5. Police Department's monthly report for June, 1986.
6. Szepatowski Associates - monthly report for June, 1986.
7. Supervisor!s monthly report for June, 1986.
8. Town Justice Price - monthly report for June, 1986.
9. Recreation Department- monthly report for June, 1986.
10. Southold Home Demonstration Proiect report on home water treatment
devices.
11. Landmark Preservation Commission minutes of June 26, 1986.
12. Town Trustees - monthly report for June 1986.
13. Southold Scavenger Waste Treatment Facility - report for June, 1986.
14. Councilmen's reports. George, would you like to give a report?
COUNCILMAN PENNY: Yes, I have a brief report~ The only meeting I've been
to in the last two weeks has been ~ meeting of the Do9 Committee negotiating with
the Animal Welfare League for a renewed contract for the next two years, and we'll
follow up on that in a couple of weeks and let you know how it made out. Thank
you. ~. _
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Okay. Thank you. Jay?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Yes, I attended the Beaches & Parks meetin9, -whic~
1'!1 let the chairman discuss that.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Go ahead, Jay, why don't you.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: No, go right ahead, Paul. You keep better notes
than I do.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH:
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE:
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH:
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE:
Well, I'm going to skip it.
You're going to skip it?
Yes. You do it.
How's the beaches? They okay?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Yes.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Everything's going well, right, Paul?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Yes.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Paul?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: No, nothing, but our beaches are doing better,
I think. We've got a terrific gal who's keeping her thumb on things and I think
everybody who's been to the beaches can see, I think, some improvement. Even
in the upkeep of our beaches. I was also to a Recreation meeting, which I~think
I'll let Jean review. You'll take care of that. I was at a Water Advisory meeting,
and the big point there was a report which each of you people got--you should
have gotten from Joe Baler telling about his units that we have out in the area.
What we're trying to do is to incorporate these filter units throughout the Town
and he gave a report and I think--did we turn that in, Frank? Do they have a--
I guess they should be getting it. But it shows exactly how each one of these
units perform and they gave some recommendations also, and out of it one of the
things I remember they said was that they didn't want these counter-top small
units. You should have the full taps--all the taps in the house, or one underneath
the sink or down below. None of these little small things seem to be working out
well. They also are working on a new flyer which should tell a I~l~tle bit about the
types and the needs of these.f~lt~s.~-~.i~!s..~som~thing-we think has to be explored
and sort of gotten out to the public. The publilc really isn't aware of what we're
doing and so by the next meeting we should have a basis for that flyer going out.
I was also at a meeting that was rather unique in the sense that we thought we'd
lost a~program--a drainage program on Skunk Lane because of a transfer of a home
there and the new owner who's come in is going to be very cooperative and it's
up to our attorney to get the papers done and we'll finally have that' project on
the way and it's a~very important one that half of Nassau Point comes to my door
and tells me about every time~ it rains. So I'm kind of glad we got that together.
Basically that's about it. Jean?
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Well, it has been a light two weeks due to the long
4th of July weekend. We did have a Recreation Committee meetinq on July 7th,
along with our_ Recreation Director Sue Fossett, Mary Ann Fleischmann, who serves
as counselor on our J~venile Aicl Bureau Grant, were in and we spent some time
discussing possible programs that she would like to see put into place, in addition
the feasibility of a drop-in center. She will be doing some work in developing the
drop-in center and would be giving seven hours of her time. She is a student, so
she's a busy young woman r but she would be giving seven hours of her time in
September toward making this project a reality. Also discussed was the need for
transportation in order to offer some of these programs, because as you know
because of our geographic spread it's very difficult to have a central location for
young people to come without providing some sort of transportation, so that was
also one of the discussions. No definite conclusions were reached. Then we spent
the balance of the time just more or less, I~ould say, discussing philosophy in
our feelings and our philosophies in relation to young people, their needs and
how they are best served, and all in all it was a very good meeting. Thank you,
Frank.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI.' Thanks, Jean. Ray?
JUSTICE EDWARDS: Yes, last weekend I know how thrilled Jean was to make this
presentation to Mr. Yoerger. I had the opportunity to make a similiar presentation
to Lieutenant Commander Rutkovsky, the man that was in charge of removing the
barge from Long Island Sound, and on the 4th of July on the Island we had a parade
that started at the ferry dock. It was lead by a fife and_drum corps band from
Esseks, Connecticut, followed by myself and the Commander in a convertible. Behind
us was~about 50 young children that had their bicycles all dressed up for a contest.
The Girl Scouts, and also in the parade was our American Legion on the Island, and
we had 11 flag bearers, each carrying a different flag. From the American Flag
all the way down through all the service flags, POW flag, New York Stater and-it
was quite an affair. It was music and concerts on the green at Fishers Island all
day. It was a beautiful day. The Island itself is very busy. The Game Wardens
have come over from Long Island and they've made a few trips around the Island
and gotten some of the poachers from Connecticut out there. The fines have been
quite heavy this summer and all in all we're getting a lot of support from the ---
Department of Environmental Conservation. That's it, Frank. Thank you.
DEPIJTY SUPERVISOR KUJA1NSKI: Thank you. The Supervisor will not have a
report tonight, since he's not here.
I1. PUBLIC NOTICES.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: I guess we could move on to public notices.
These are all available on the bulletin board in the lobby and also in the Town
Clerk's Office.
1. New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, public hearing
notice, application of Daniel F. Gordon to remove approximately 200 cubic yards of
earth from top of bluff to provide water view on Parcel 35-4, Fishers Island. Hear-
ing to be held at the Fishers Island Fire House, 2:00 P.M., August 4, 1986.
2a. New York State Department of Transportation, Notice of Order, establish-
ing a "stop" control at the intersection of the newly dedicated street of Eastward
Court with Route 25 in Mattituck.
2b. New York State Department of Transportation, Notice of Order, establish-
ing a "stop" control at the intersection of newly dedicated street of Crown Land
Lane with Route 25 in Cutchogue.
3. Department of the Army, Corps of Engineer% notice of application of the
Town of Southold to place 4 moored, floating scallop nursery structures in Howard's
Branch of Mattituck Creek. Comments are requested by July 28, 1986.
· 4. Department of the Army~, Corps of Engineers, notice of application of
Marine Sciences Research Center, Stony Brook to install subsurface raft for the
purpose of kelp growth research at Hog Neck Bay, SouthoI~. Comments are re-
quested by July 28, 1986.
5. Department of the Army, Corps of Engineers, notice of application of the
Town of Southold to place 4 bay scallop nursery structures in Lake Montauk, Town
of East Hampton. Comments are requested by July 28, 1986.
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July 1~, 1986
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Would any of the Board memb~fr~s like to make a
comment about 1 through 57 (No response.)
Iii. COMMUNICATIONS.
1. Letter from Mrs. John Sinnin~l, Eastern Lon9 Island Hospital Auxiliary,
thanking the Highway Department for their-assistance with their annual plant sale.
2. Letter from the Suffolk County Board of Elections confirming their reservation
for the Town Board room at Town Hail for their local registration days on Wednesday,
October 8, 1986 from 4:30 P.M. to 9:00 P.M., and Saturday, October 11, 1986 from
2:00 P.M. to 9:00 P.M.
3. Letter from New York State Senator Kenneth P. LaValle, acknowledging
South01d Town's recent correspondence supporting the enactment of S-668B which ~
would provide State Income Tax Credits to homeowners for expenses related to the
contamination of their wells by non-petroleum products, and Senator LaValle's
assurance of his best efforts in enacting these provisions into statute.
4. Letter from New York State Assemblyman Arthur J. Kremer, Chairman of
the Ways and Means Commission, acknowledging Southold Town's correspondence
with respect to the land banking legislation, and assuring the Town of his support.
5. Letter from New York State Assemblyman Joseph Sawicki, Jr., to Franklin
Bear, Chairman, Southold Town Water Advisory Committee, acknowledging his letter
with respect to the legislation relative to State Income Tax Credits to homeowners for
expenses related to the contamination of their wells by non-petroleum products.
6. Copy of a Town of East Hampton resolution 9rant,ing the Town of Southold
permission to utilize bottomlands in Lake Montauk to establish the bay scallop nursery~
research projec, t..
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Would one of the Boaf~l members like to make a
comment about any of the communications? (No response.)~ Paul, would you like to
make a comment about number 6?
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I'll have to find out what number 6 is.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: It's about granting...
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Oh, East Hampton. Yes. This is where permission
to ulitize the bottomlands in Lake Montauk to establish a Ibay scallop nursery resear~
project. As you Well know we have brown tide in our area and we were hoping thili ~
year to run a nursery program for scallops. As you know they were Wiped~o~t
year pretty well, and we had hoped to u~e Pete's Neck, out in Orient, b~Jt !l~cause
of the brown tide we've gotten permission from East Hampton to use their waters,
hopefully that they'll be cleaner out there. That's really a scarey thing, this brown
tide, and what's it's going to mean. I think it has.long far Off problems ahead of
this as far as our shellfish and our sports fish and whatever, right on down to the
Osprey, who can't see the fish. When you come to think about it, visibility in our
water is palms deep about, and that!s about all, and that's killing off much of the
material. The Eel Grass, for instance, in the Great South Bay is being almost
devastated like the 1932 fungus that took over the area, and that, of course, has
many repercussions because other things use it as nursery areas, nutrient areas,
and if that gets wiped out it also takes along with it many other things. So the
brown tide is going to have some very long lasting effects on our whole East End
I'm afraid, and we're hoping it won't come back next year, and if it does I don't
know what we'll do. Our scallops won't be worth anything. But that's why we're
using Lake Montauk.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Okay. Well, it's a little early for the public
hearing, but we do have a special resolution. Would anyone like to read this
resolution ?
Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran,
WHEREAS, EDWARD F. HINDERMANN, a most valued member of the Building Departs._
ment, will r~t re from public service effective July 31, 1986;' and ~-~
WHEREAS, EDWAiR'D F. HINDERI~tA'NN has been a faithful and dedicated employee of[ I
the Town of Southold since December 1, 1971; and L~L~~
WHEREAS, Mr. Hindermann's record of fine service to the Town of Southold and
its people deserves the sincere gratitude of those with whom and for whom he
served; now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED' that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby expresses their
most sincere appreciation to EDWARD F. HINDERMANN for-his unselfish and wholeheart¢
cooperation and untiring efforts on behalf of the Town of Southold, and extends their
best wishes for the years ahead; and be it further
RESOLVED that this resolution shall be made a part of the permanent records of the
Town of Southold, and a copy be presented to Mr. Hindermann.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
July 15, 1986
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH; ~Geor_ge~ I ;think you could tell a tittle bit. He's
going to have a good*'~e, iS~i~: ~ Di'~i~{ ~e ~ell you his retirement plans?
COUNCILMAN PENNY: Yes, he mentioned a lot of golf.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: That sounds like a good way to go.
IV. PUBLIC HEARING.
Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that this meeting be recessed at this time, 8:00 P.M., for the purpose
of holding a public hearing on a proposed "Local Law in relation to the disposal of
discarded vehicles and discarded fuel tanks at the Town Refuse Disposal A~ea."
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
Meeting reconvened at 8:07 P.M.
V. RESOLUTIONS.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: There are two opportunities now, under the
new Town policy, for the public to comment about the resolutions. One is right
now, prior to the beginning of the resolutions, and the other opportunity is at
the end of the meeting when the resolutions are finished. Is there anyone in
the audience right now who would like to address the Board in regard to any of
the resolutions on the agenda? (No response.) Okay. Seeing that there is no
one who would like to make a comment, why don't we move right on to the first
of the resoluti0~ns.
1. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of-the Town of Southold hereby a,qcepts the bids
of Chemung Supply. Corporation fo~ supplying, the Southold Town Highway Department
with 10,000 lin. feet, more or less, of Snow Fence, at the bid price of $37.97 per
foot roll, AND the bid of Capitol Highway Materials, Inc. for suppiyin9 the Southold
Town Highway Department with $00, more or less, steel T posts at the bid price of
~1.90 per post, all in accordance with the bid specifications.
1.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Number 2?
2. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs Supervisor Francis J. Murphy to execute an a~reement between the Greenport
Housin~ Alliance, Inc., and the Town of Southold authorizincj the Greenport Housin~
~lliance', Inc. to administer the Southold Town Community Development Housing
~.ogram for Year XII, all in accordance with the agreement as approved by T~wn
Attorney Tasker.
2.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Number 3?
3. Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Councilman Schondebare, it was ~
RESOLVED that pursuant to Article 8 of the Environmental Conservation Law, State
Environmental Quality RevieW, and 6NYCRR Part 617, Section 617.10, and Chapter
44 of the Code of the Town of Southold, notice is hereby given that the Southold
Town Board, as lead agency for the action described below, has determined that
the project, which is unlisted, will not have a significant effect on the environmenl.
,D.~scription of Action: Permit to mine sand and gravel from 7.5 acres adjacent tn
the Cutchogue Landfill site.
The project has been determined not to have a significant effect on the environ-
ment because an environmental assessment has been submitted which indicated that no
significant adverse effect to the environment is likely to occur should the project be
implemented as planned, and because there has been no response in the allotted time
from the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation it is assumed that
there are no objections nor comments from that agency.
3.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Number 4 is to grant permission to the Mattituck
Fire Department to use the Town roads for a parade and tou~'nament on August 9th,
1986.
4. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Justice Edwards,~.it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission
to the Mattituck Fire DePartment to use the following Town Roads for the parade
route for their annual parade and tournament to be held at 2:00 P.M., Saturday.,
August 9, 1986 (rain date: 1:00 P.M., Sunday, August 10, 1986), provided they
secure and maintain the proper insurance to hold the Town of Southold harmless:
Ole Jule Lane, New Suffolk Avenue, Reeve Avenue and Bay Avenue.
4.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochranr
Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Number 5?
5. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby g.rants permissio.n.
to Public Safety Dispatcher I John F. Raynor to attend a Public Safety Radio Dis-
patcher Seminar on August 25, 26 and 27, 1986, at the University of Delaware,
Wilmington, Delaware, and the tuition in the amount of $275.00 and all necessary
expenses for meals, lodging and travel shall be a legal charge against the Town
of Sour hold.
5.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Number 6?
Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby gr,a.nts permission
to Police Officers Joseph T. Reiter and Frederick W. Fiedler, Jr. to attend Fire
Arms School, sponsored by the F.B.i. at Camp Smith, Peakskill, New York, from
September 22 through 26, 1986, and all necessary expenses for meals, lodging and
travel shall be a legal charge against the Tow~n of Southold.
6.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman Schondebarew Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKi: Number 7? ~
7. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the application of Frank A. Field Realty, Inc. for renewal of a sin§?~~
family house trailer permit, for trailer located at 711 Linnett Street, lot #60, Gr~e~t~ort
D~iving Park, Greenport, New York, which permit expires on July 22, 1986~ be~
hereby is granted for a six (6) month period.
7.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Number 8?
8. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to
Country Time Cycle to use the following Town roads for the pu~'pose of holdinc~ their
annual Biathlon (runnin~ and bicycling), on Sunday, July 27, 1986, between the hours
of 8:00 A.M. and 10:00 A..M., providing they secure and maintain the property insuran~
to hold the Town of Southold harmless: W~ckham Avenue, Grand Avenue, Mill Road,
Oregon Road, Elijahs Lane, Bridge Lane.
8,-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: CounCilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Number 9?
9. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the To~n of Southold hereby allocates $550.00
toward the Armstrong Legacy Concert, sponsored by the East End Arts and
Humanities Council, to be held on Saturda¥, July 19, 1986 at Greenport.
9.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Council~n Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman. Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Number 107
Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the To~n of Southold hereby authorizes the
purchase of Panasonic FP-2625 copy machine for the Southold Town Police Depart-
ment, under a 5 year lease plan, at a cos~ of $125.00 per month, which includes
a $1,500.00 buy out on the Police Department's Savin copy machine; and authorizes
the Supervisor to execute a one year maintenance agreement for said Panasonic
copier at a cost of $408.00 per year.
July 15, 1986
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH:
would that be covered?
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]U~d~ a0~s that include after th~ three months--
TOWN CLERK TERRY: Oh, yes.
COUNCILMAN PENNY: I have a question. Bob, can we do this?
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: No. I thought it was a purchase.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: It's a lease/purchase.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Five year lease.
COUNCILMAN PENNY: We can't do this. We've already been told. We've been
told on other equipment we can't do this.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: You're paying about 18% interest. You can't do this.
You better hold it.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: I need a motion to---
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I move to table it.
Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, i,t was
RESOLVED that Resolution No. 10 be and hereby is tabled.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Number 11.
RMOVed by Co.u~ncilman Stoutenburgh,' second'by Councilwoman Cochran, it was
ESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby amends their
Resolution No. 2, adopted August 7, 1985, authorizing the purchase of the
the following Suffolk County Department of Real Estate parcel - 1000-048.00-
02.00-026.00 - using. Community Development Funds, to read: usin~t General
Fund Whole Town funds.
11.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards. No: Councilman Schondebare.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Number 12.
12. Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts and
approves the Civil Service Employees Association, Inc., Southold Town Uni~,
.p,.roposed Salar. y Structure, effective January 1, 1986, July I, 1986, January
1, 1987, July 1, 1987, as approved by the membership of the CSEA on July
10, 1986, and hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor Francis J. Murphy to
execute an amendment to the 1985-1986-1987 contract between the Civil Service
Employees Association, Inc., Southold Town Unit, and the Town of Southold,
to incorporate the aforesaid Salary Structure.
12.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Number 13 deals with some transfers of funds.
13. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Stoutenbu~gt~, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
following transfers within the General Fund Whole Town 1986 Budqet:
From: A1990.4, Contingent, Contractual $13,000.00
Into: A1010.4, Councilmen, Contractual $10,000.00
A1220.4, Supervisor, Contractual $ 3,000.00
From: A7110.2, Parks, Equipment $ 385.00
Into: A7110.4, Parks, Contractual $ 385.00
-13.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenbur~lh, Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
14.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Number 14 is a resolution that the Town Board
of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the resignation of Manuel M. Cabral, as a
member of the Southold Town Council on Veteran's Affairs for the Griswold-Terry-
Glover Post No. 803, American Legion, Southold.
Moved by Coun~:ilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby a__c_qep_t_sth~e
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July 15, 1986
resignation of ZManuel M. Cabral, as a member of the Southold T~vn Council
on Veteran's Affairs for the Griswold-Terry-Glover Post No. 803, American
Legion, Southold.
14.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards.
This resolution-was declared duly ADOPTED.
15.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Number 15 is to replace that resignation.
This is a resolution that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints
Harold P. Schwerdt as a member of the Southold Town Council on Veteran's Affairs,
representing the Griswold-Terry-Glover Post No. 803, American Legion, effective
immediately through December 31, 1986.
Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Harold
P. Schwerdt as a member of the Southold Town Council on Veteran's Affairs,
representing the Griswold-Terry-Glover Post No. 803 American Legion, Si3uthold,
effective immediately through December 31, 1986.
15.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Number 16 is a resolution that the Town Board
of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to advertise
for resumes for the part-time position of a Road Inspector for the Town of Southold,
the salary for this position to be negotiable.
16. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs 'the Town Clerk to advertise for resumes for the part-time position of Road
Inspector for the Town of Southold, the salary for this position to be ne~lotiable.
16.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Would anyone like 177
17. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Justice Edwards,
WHEREAS, an emer(~enc~/ situation occurred at the Southold Town Disoosal Area,
Cutchogue, between Saturday, June 28, 1986 and Wednesday, July 2, 1986, when
serious fire e~upted and necessitated 'immediate actio~ I~y ~he Commissioner of~:PUblic
Works who contracted with Sound Shore Excavating Corporation to provide three
bulldozers and operators at a total cost of $11,240.00 to aid in bringing the fire
under 'control, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby authorizes the payment of $11,240.00 to
~ound Shore Exca~'_ati_ng Corporation for the aforesaid emergency services.
17.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Number 187
18. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it-'was'
RESOLVED that the application of Samuel G. Brown for a sincjIe family house trailer
permit for trailer located on the west side of Tuthill Lane, Cutchogue, be and hereby
is granted for a six (6) month period.
18.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards. Abstain: Councilman Schondebare.
This 'resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Number 197
19. Moved by Councilman Schondebare, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs the Town Clerk to advertise for resumes for the position of part-time
evening,S.tenog.r.apher for the Board of Appeals, salary $7.50 per hour.
19.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Number 20?
20. Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby waives the ,$75.00
filin9 fee for an App. lication to the Board of Appeals by the North Fork Friends of
Kenyon Tuthill.
20.-¥ote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards.
~ This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
July 15, 1986
21.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Number 217 ~
Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh:
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby loans the F. R.
Morbark Super Beever .......
JUSTICE EDWARDS: Wait a minute. Hold it. Hold it. Is that resolution number
217
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TOWN CLERK TERRY: Yes.
21.
JUSTICE EDWARDS: Let me read that one, please, Paul.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Surely.
Rescinded Auqust 12, 1986 Resolution #19
Moved by JusYice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby transfers the
F. R. Morbark Super Beever Chiparvestor S/N SB-120, with Blade Sharpener
and spare parts, to Fishers Island for the use of the Highway Department.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Question. Why was it changed from loan to t~ansfer?
JUSTICE EDWARDS: Because the Highway Department over there is the same as
the Highway Department here.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: You send a truck over there, you don't loan it.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: So it's a transfer rather than a loan.
TOWN CLERK TERRY: So you're not transferring it to the Fishers Island Garbage
and Refuse?
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN:
the .....
JUSTICE EDWARDS: No, we're transferring it to the Highway over there.
All right. Transfers..and it's being transferred to
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER:
Department.
To Fishers Island for the use of the Town Highway
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Any other comments?
JUSTICE EDWARDS: I would like to make a comment on that. True, the Chiparvestor
went out for bid'and someone offered $35,000 for the Chiparvestor, but in the mean-
time the engineer that's doing the study for the Fishers Island Garbage District has
decided that this would be ideal in feeding the incinerator that we plan to put on the
Island, so inasmuch as the Fishers Island taxpayers are contributing not only to the
Cutchogue Landfill operation, but also to their own Garbage District on Fishers Island,
which you people do not contribute to, I think this is a more than fair trade-off.
Secondly, if there's money being taken out of the Highway Department, I'm wondering
where they're coming up with $12,000 for the operation to clean up the dump up there,
and I also see in my papers there's another $6,000 or $8,000 of outside labor that was
used to re-do the Kenneys Beach up there. So I don't think it's that much of a loss.
Thank you, Frank.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR
KUJAWSKI: Okay.
21. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny..
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Is it toolate to ask a question?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Never too late, Jean.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN:
to the Highway Department.
this?
I just wondered if...this is going to be transferred
Is the Superintendent of Highways supportive Of
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I'd like to make a comment. When this was brought
up by our past-Councilman Townsend, it was agreed, and I agreed with him, that this
would be sold so that the moneys would help balance our budget to some extent,
because we were buying a very expensive tub grinder, and therefore I am afraid I
will have to vote against this because ! gave my word ! would go along wil~h the
idea of selling it, but not against the idea of Fishers Island having a chipper or
what have you, but the concept was that it was to be sold and that was why we
bought the big tub grinder and I can't see how I could go along with it any other
way.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: i'm questioning this, Bob. Thank you.
July 15, 1986
JUSTICE EDWARDS: He's not aware of it, but ! don't see anything-'wrong with it.
It's going to stay right in his Department. He still has control over it.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER:
the proceeds of the sale to
the madhine to the Highway
Presumably the intention was to sell it and transfer
the Highway Department. So now you're t.ransferring
Department.
JUSTICE EDWARDS: It's within his department.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: I had decided to vote "yes" on this particular thing,
but I just think in fairness of operational procedure that the Superintendent of
Highays should be informed of the move.
COUNCILMAN PENNY: We told he we were going to transfer it over there and then
if it didn't work out we'd bring it back.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN; He has been informed that?
COUNCILMAN PENNY: Oh, yes.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Well, that was my question.
COUNCILMAN PENNY: Well, not this week. Th'is was at the previous meeting two
weeks ago. He suggested that they get a smaller unit ....
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Yes, he did.
COUNCILMAN PENNY: ...and we also said that we would like to try' this and see
if it works out over there.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: All right, as long as he's aware of it. Yes.
21.-Vote of the Town Board (continued)~: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman
Schondebare, Justice Edwards. No: Councilman Stoutenburgh.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
22.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Number 22. ~, ,~
Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and
directs Supervisor Francis J. Murphy to execute a Service Applicat'ion to the Fishers
Island Electric Corporation to furnish electric service to the Fishers Island Sewer
Treatment Plant, and be it further
RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby authorizes the Fishers Island Telephone
Company to connect an Alarm Reporting Service to the Fishers Island Sewer Treat-
ment Plant ,generat!ng facility at an estimated installation cost of $100.00, plus a
monthly telephone bill charge of $32.00.
JUSTICE EDWARDS: One comment before they call the roll, I just want you to know
that all you Sewer Directors can now vote on the Fishers Island Sewer, inasmuch as
you're all part of the Sewer Commission on Fishers Island you can make your voices
heard. Thank you.
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I would like an accounting as soon as possible with
regards to that operation.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: And how you spent the $132.00.
COUNCILMAN PENNY: Are you going to pull an inspection over there, Jay?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I intend to. By boat.
22.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Number 23. I think might need to be reworded.
23.
Moved by CounCilman Penny, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran,
WHEREAS, for many years the County of Suffolk has conducted a county program
to dredge the various creeks and inland waterways within the County of Suffolk
to maintain the same in a navigable condition for the benefit of the inhabitants and
visitors to the County of Suffolk, without regard to public access thereto, and
WHEREAS, the County of Suffolk has refused to include Deep Hole Creek, located
:at Mattituck, in the Town of Southold, in its 1986 dredging program on the grounds
that such creek does not meet the recently promulgated standards of the County
because it has no public access, as defined by the County, and
WHEREAS, the County's change of poli~ has resulted in the shoaling of such creek
to the extent that it is not sa~e fo~'~i~i~ purposes in its present state, and has
imposed a severe hardship to the residents and visitors to the Town of Southold,
NOW, THEREFORE, IT IS RESOLVED that this Board does hereby request that the
Suffolk County Legislature take such action as may be deemed necessary to cause'
said creek to be dredged by the County of Suffolk so that the same may be used
for boating by the residents and inhabitants of the Town of Southold, and it is
further
RESOLVED that the Town Clerk cause a certified copy of this resolution to be sent
to the Suffolk County Executive and to each member of the Suffolk County Legis-
lature, and to the Suffolk County Planning Department.
23.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman $chondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: And the last resolution.
24. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Justice Edwards,
WHEREAS, a proposed Local Law No. 7 - 1986 was introduced at a meeting of this
Board held on the 1st day of July, 1986, and
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held thereon by this Board on the 15th day of
July, 1986, at which time all interested persons were given an opportunity to be
heard thereon, now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED that Local Law No. 7 - 1986 be enacted as follows:
LOCAL LAW NO. 7- 1986
A Local Law in relation to the disposal of discarded
vehicles and discarded fuel tanks in the Town Refuse Disposal Area
BE IT ENACTED by the Town Board of the Town of Southold as follows:
I. Section [18-3 (Town refuse disposal area) of Chapter 48 of the Code of the
Town of Southold is amended by adding thereto a new subdivision, to be
subdivision D, to read as follows:
D. The attendant at the Town~ refuse area is authorized to prohibit the
disposal of discarded motor vehicles and/or discarded fuel tanks at
the refuse disposal area.
II. This Local Law shall take effect upon its filing with the Secretary of State.
24.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Is there any member of the Town Board that
has a comment to make at 'this time?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: Oh, ! did attend one meeting. Interviews of the
Building Inspector.
COUNCILMAN ~ENNY: What was the results, Jay?
COUNCILMAN SCHONDEBARE: I had no problems in interviewing all the gentlemen.
We sent out notices. I was there. Victor Lessard was there. And we sat there
and no one ever showed up. So so much for those gentlemen.
COUNCILMAN PENNY: We tried.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Try again.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Any other members of the Board?
COUNCILWOMAN: Yes, Pd like to recognize the Boy Scout we have With us tonight.
Do we have more than one? Yes. Several. Three of you, right? They're working
on of their merit badges and they're here to observe us--government at work. Good
luck with your troop and good luck with earning of your badges.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Under the leadership of Mr. Mitchell there.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAI~: Yes, Mr. Mitchell. Would you like to i'ntroduce your
boys to us?
MR. MITCHELL: My son, Cameron Mitchell, John Skabry and Jeffrey Kent.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Yes, George.
COUNCILMAI~ PENNY: We had a question come up and I see that John Tuthill is
here and we wanted to address a question of some of the Orient people earlier
regarding the old burying ground in Orient and we're hoping that we'll get some
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inspiration from some of the people in Orient ~$ to ~ho are the Commoners in the
village of Orient so that we can decide whose jurisdiction this falls under.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Who owns what?
JOHN TUTHILL: Well I understood as far as that...it's the one at Brown's Hills
I guess you're talking about...
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Yes.
JOHN TUTHILL: I understood that all burying grounds that were over 50 years...
COUNCILMAN PENNY: It's up by Sterns. ~
JOHN TUTHILL: That's the one. I understood that all burying grounds that were
not used for 50 years became the responsibility of the Town, an~d in fact when I was
on the Historical Society the Town did do some work there. They cleaned it up and
everything, but of course it's fallen into disrepair again and is in kin~l of bad shape.
COUNCILMAN PENNY: Are there any Commoners ....
JOHN TUTHILL: What do you mean by Commoners? We're all common, I guess.
I don't know what the definition of Commoners is.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: He's not old enough. There was a group, because
there were deeds given to the Long Island State Park by a group who claimed to
be the Commoners of Orient.
JOHN TUTHII_L: Well, the State Park at that time was owned by the male voters in
Orient.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: Who called themselves the Commoners.
JOHN TUTHILL: I guess that would be kind of bad for the women these days to
call just the males the Commoners. If that applies to Long Beach why I don't believe
you could say just the male voters are the Commoners.
TOWN ATTORNEY TASKER: Except that I don't think the State believed it either,
because they immediately started a condemnation action.
JOHN TUTHILL: Well anyway it would be nice if the Town would take over the
cemeteries that are not be used for 50 years, particularly that one. That's really
in bad shape. Some of the Boy Scouts...not maybe theser but might have been
their fathers at the time, did take rubbings of all of the graves and that's in
the Historical Society. A lot of those stones now are pretty well broken up and
there's trees growing in there and trees fallen down. It's too bad that the grave
yard like that...actually I guess it's Richard Brown and King and one of my ancestorsr
~lohn Tuthill, was the first ones that came down to Orient and they bought Orient from
the indians for the second time. The indians sold Orient twice. Anyway, Richard
Brown did live up there next to the cemetery. There's an old step there that must
have gone into his basement. So that's why they call it Brown's Hill Cemetery. And
I think it would be nice if it could be revised. As I say, the Town once, maybe
fifteen years ago got in there. They cleaned it all up .....
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: That's because they couldn't find out who else owned
it to have it cleaned. I would think it would behoove this Board to approve the
fact of the Highway Department to go in and clean it.
JOHN TUTHILL: Anything else?
COUNCILMAN PENNY: No, I think you've answered it. Thank you.
JUSTICE EDWARDS: I'd like to make a comment. When I lived over in Connecticut t~t i
! used to drive from Exit 73 into Exit 86 into New London every day, and just befor~
the weighing station on 1-95 in Waterford, on the right hand side there was a little
cemetery there, and an Eagle Scout took this as his project for Eagle Scouts, and
he spent a whole spring in there and he cleaned this old 1600 §rave yard up. Put
pipes behind the stones that were broken and he did a beautiful job and it stayed
like that for oh probably ten or fifteen years, and now it's back again in disrepair.
~But I remember going by there every day and see how much the boy used to do over
the weekend. It was really rew~arding. It must have been for him also. Thank you,
Frank.
JOHN TUTHILL: If you're interested in helping cemeteries, there is another old
cemetery just this side of Truman Beach that is all overgrown...
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: That's not as old though. It's got the modern
monuments in it.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Thank you, John.
WILLIAM BEHR: Just one question, as a matter of informationr please. Bill Behr,
Chamber of Commerce. I do believe there was a committee formed--or is formed
here in~Southolc~ Town as far as commerative things are concerned. I've forgotten
the name of the committee.
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: The Landmarks...
WILLIAM BEHR: Exactly. Thank you very much. I was thinking, as John was
talking, of the Trinity Church down in Wall Street. Many of you people have been
there hopefully. And it's really a very lovely church yard. If anybody goes by
has to walk through it. And I would think it would be very, very nice if the
Landmarks Committee, with the help of~the Town, might take over the preservation
of these landmarks we have. I have been through ...I call it the Jack Stern's
annex...and at one time the Boy Scouts...that's got to be over ten years ago, and
as Ray said, he can get the people in there to volunteer, and then all of a sudden
we don't have that many Ea§le Scouts coming along, and possibly it might behoove
this Town, being the oldest English town here in the United States, to take it upon
themselves to preserve this very lovely cemetery. I was through it about ten years
ago. Now you can't get through it it's so overgrown. I think it would very, very
worthwhile endeavor to be considered by the Town Council. Thank you.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Does anyone else have a comment to make to the
Board ?
MARGARET SKABRY: My name is Margaret Skabry. ! live in Pecoi~ic. Pretty neat
things have been said about the kids tonight that are Scouts and there are a lot of
good kids in the Town, and they do a lot. They have in the past cleaned up
cemeteries and planted trees down at the shorelines and stuff. It's very important.
But there's a problem when the boys do come of age where they have to complete
their Eagle project. They have a timeframe they have to work in. They also are
not truly aware of the things that they can do in this Town, that they would be
permitted to do. They would have to get permission to go into certain areas and
~1o certain work and there would be limitations as to what they would be permitted
to work on. I can think of one project right now that's in the works, that you're
not supposed to talk about, that I never saw a kid have so much gusto wanting to
go into this, and it really had to be shortened up because there were areas he was
not allowed to go into. It would have been too much for him to handle. There are
a lot of boys coming up now that are going to be Eagles. It's surprising the number
of kids that are hanging in there, and a lot more on their way. If something could
be done. There aren't all that many Scout leaders in the Town, toi let these Scout
leaders know what projects would be coming up that these kids could get in and give
the Town a hand, because tonight they got to see a Town Board can have a sense of
humor. A Town~ Board can have a little quiet discussions l~ehind the microphones,
and stuff. Let them see that they're really wanted. I realize that having to do
erosions problems at a lake or shoreline are a bit much for a kid to handle, but
there are also things they've wanted to do in their schools where they could not
get backing that would have been a help to voters and handicapped people. They're
getting shot down all over the place. If you could really make more information
available to their leaders these kids can be dynamite. Maybe something co~uId be
worked out by all the members of the Board. Thanks.
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: Any other comments?
PAT CLANCY: I have a question regarding the fire. Tonight it was mentioned
that there was $11,240.00 for trucks that came in. Had there been an estimate
before of how much it was going to cost to clean up all that brush?
COUNClLWOMA~COCHRAN: It was burning.
PAT CLANCY: Did we save money by paying $11,240.007
DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI: It was a fire. It was an emergency situation.
COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH.- It was the obligation of the Town to put out the
fire and they took the quickest means they possibly could, and that was the
reason that the...it Was bulldozers mainly pushing the material around.
JUSTICE EDWARDS: It wasn't started on purpose.
PAT CLANCY: I know, but last time it was mentioned that it was like a blessing.
that the fire had cleared it up and I was just wondering ....
COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAI~: I think it would have cost you more to dispose of the
pile as it was in a normal procedure...process.
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DEPUTY SUPERVISOR KUJAWSKI:
Okay. is there a motion to adjourn this meeting?
Moved by Councilman Stouten~burgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was
RESOLVED that there being no further business ~o come before the Town Board
the meeting be adjourned at 8:40 P.M.
Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran,
Councilman Schondebare, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards.
This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.
Judith T. Terry
Southold Town Clerk