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MEMBERS
ROBERT W. Gl LLISPIE, JR., CHAIRMAN
CHARLES GRIGONIS, JR.
SERGE DOYEN JR
TERRY TUTHILL
ROBERT J. DOUGLASS
Southold Town Board of Appeals
SOUTHOLD, L. I., N.Y. 11971
TELEPHONE (516) 765-1809
MINUTES
Southold Town Board of Appeals
October 19, 1978
A regular meeting of tbs Southold Town Board of Appeals was
~eld at 7:30 P.M. (D.S.T.), Thursday, October 19, 1978, at the Tow~
Hall, Main Roadt Southold, New York.
There were present: Messrs: Robert W. Gillispie, Jr., Chairman;
Charles Grigonis, Jr.; Serge Doyen, Jr.; Terry Tuthill; and Robert J.
Douglass.
Also p~esent was Douglas Love, Long Island Traveter-Mattituck
Watchman.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Tuthill, it was
P~SOLV~D that the Southold Town Board of Appeals approve minutes
of the September 28, 1978, meeting.
Vote of the Board:
Tuthili and Douglass.
Ayes: Messrs:
Gillispie, Grigonis, Doyen,
Appeal No. 2469. Application of Daniel and
THE CHAIRMAN: Sure, but I think I am about to ~ate what our
conclusions are, but we will be glad to hear from you.
MR. FRANKLIN BEAR: May I speak before you render your decision?
THE CHAIRMAN: The Board has been studying ail the~evidence that
exists here in the file and ha~s also consulted with'Town. Counsel in
connection With the objection to the use of this property, and it is
our opinion, and I think I speak for the whole Board~ .....
POSTPONED DECISION:
Laura Shybunko, 5 Hilltop Court, St. James, New York, (Anthony P. DeRiggi,
Esq.)
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MR. BEAR: The reason I wanted to speak was there was a story
in the NEWSDAY one day last week. I'm sure you probably saw it. I
would like to read a couple of paragraphs from it. The Dateline is
Melville. "What appears to be a major victory for Long Island Land
Planners. A BrookLyn Appellate Court has ruled a home cannot be built
on a sub-standard Land parcel on Bagetelle Road, Huntington, just north
of the Babylon-Huntington town lines. Despite the fact that a sub-
division map has been filed to build that home. It is a most signifi-
cant decision for all Long Island, said Lee Koppelman, Executive Dir-
ector of the Long Island Regional Planning Board. The land parcel in
question was on a map of a 1938 subdivision for 52 homes on quarter
acre parcels." It occured to me that this might be something that
should affect your decision.
THE CHAIRMAN: I don't think so Mr. Bear because you have already
appealed the rulin~ of the Board of Appeals of the Board of Health
Services to the Courts and been denied. This has already received upper
level treatment fram the DEC relative to the bog there. It is my
opinion and CounseL's opinion that this is a matter beyond us at the
moment. Those who are responsible for determining if there is adequate
water available ~a~e deemed there is. What the judge says about a 1938
subdivision in Huntington has no bearing on this matter at all. Is
there anything else you might like to say?
MR. BEAR: No, I just thought you might like to hear abo~ut this.
MR. TUTHILL: I have given this quite a bit of thought during
the past three weeks, studied the information, and I have no reserva-
tions about adopting the resolution to approve the request for the
applicant.
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that the appli-
cant wishes to red~ce his front yard setbacks to 35 feet on Wampum Way
and Tepee Trail and wishes to reduce his side yard setback to 19 feet,
The findings of the Board are that the minor relief required by this
reduction of front and side yards is immaterial so far as the character
of the neighborhood is concerned. The objections to this application
have been properly taken care of by other agencies concerning water and
sewer.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance would
produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship; the hardship
created is unique and would not be Shared by all properties alike in
the immediate vicinity of the property and in the same use district; and
the variance will not change the character of the neighborhood and will
observe the spirit of the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Tuthill, seconded by Mr. Gillisple, it was
RESOLVED that Daniel and Laura Shybunko, 5 Hilltop Court, St. James
New York, be GRANTED permission to reduce the front yard setbacks to 35
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feet on Wampum Way and Tepee Trail and reduce the side yard setback
to 10 feet. Location of Property: Lot No. 5, Nunnakoma Waters,
Southold, New York, subject to the following condition:
(1) Approval of the Suffolk County Planning Commission
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs: Gil!ispie,~ Grigonis, Doyen,
Tuthill and Douglass.
PUBLIC HEARING: Postponed decision upon application of Betsy
Latham, Private Road, Orient, New York, for a variance in accordance
with the Zoning Ordinance for permission to divide property with insuf-
ficient frontage and area. Location of property: Private Road, Orient,
New York, bounded on the north by Wilsberg; east by G. E. Latham, Jr.;
south by Private Road; west by Long Island Lighting Company.
THE CHAIRMAN: This is a postponed decision upon the application
of Mrs. Latham, No. 2466 dated August 16, 1978, and at that hearing
the~e was an application to divide a parcel owned by Betsy Latham into
two pieces both of which would have been smaller than the ~pre.se~t
minumum requirement of the Zoning Ordinance. Accordingly, it was
suggested with Mr. Douglass~ assistance I believe, that the lots be
enlarged by including part of the property which is owned by Betsy
Latham and George La,ham, Jr., across the right-of-way to the south.
The survey which incorporates these changes is dated September 27, 1978,
and indicates both of these lots will be slightly more than 40,000 square
feet, when divided. The westerly lot will have 40,134 square feet, and
the easterly lot with the house on it will have 40,064 square feet. The
house lot will extend across the right-of-way. We noticed going over
this application tha~ there is no application for access which should
be included. I think the decision of the Board should be subject to
dividing this property as divided on survey of Van Tuyl dated September
27, 1978, and subject to obtaining approval of access from this Board
in a separate application and recording both the division and access
involved on the deeds being created in connection with this. All of
this should be done within 6 months. Do you understand this? You
should obtain approval of access, because you have other land that is
involved.
MR. DOUGLASS: The Town Attorney informed us that you have to apply
independently for that 16 foot right-of-way to give access to this new
piece of property.
MRS. BETSY LATHAM: I was at my lawyer's today, and he said he
would take ca~e of it. Filing it properly and all.
MR. CHAIRMAN: Who is your attorney?
MRS. LATHAM: Mr. Glickman.
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that the
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applicant wishes to divide her property with insufficient frontage
on a Private Road in Orient, New York. The applicant has been able
to create two, 40,000 square foot lots by crossing a right-of-way
and including part of property owned by the applicant and George E.
La~k~, Jr. to the south.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance would
produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship; the hardship
created is unique and would not be shared by all properties alike in
the immediate vicinity of the property and in the same use district;
and the variance will not change the character of the neighborhood and
will observe the spirit of the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED that Betsy Latham, Private Road, Orient, New York, be
GRANTED permission to divide property with insufficient frontage as
requested. Location of property: Private Road, Orient, New York,
bounded on the north by Wilsberg; east by G. E. Latham, Jr.; south by
Private Road; west by Long Island Lighting Company, upon the following
conditions:
(1) Property will be divided as shown on survey of Van Tuyl
dated September 27, 1978.
(2) Applicant applying for approval of access over 16 foot
right-of-way.
(3) Suffolk County Planning Commission. Approval
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs: Gillispie, Grigonis, Doyen,
Tuthill and Douglass.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2478 - Upon application of Russell
Tabor and Sons, Main Road, Orient, New York for a variance in accordance
with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-31 and Bulk Area
Schedule to divide property with insufficient area and front and rear
yard setbacks and for a variance in accordance with Town Law, Section
280A for approval of access. Location of property: Main Road, Orient,
New York~ bounded on the north by Main Road and Tabor; east by Tabor
and Schriever; south by Tabor and Schriever; west by Village Lane and
Tabor.
The Chairman opened~ the hearing by reading the application for a
variance, legal notice of hearing, affidavits attesting to its publi-
cation in the official newspapers, and disapproval from the Building
Inspector. The Chairman also read a statement from the Town Clerk that
notification had been made to: Wendell B. Tabor; Ward R. Tabor; and
William Schriever. Fee paid $15.00.
THE CHAIRMAN: The County Tax Map indicates this property is
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directly across the street from the Congregational Church in Orient.
It is in fact on the corner of Village Lane and Main Road and bordered
by lots in many cases considerably smaller all down Village Lane except
that the church property across the street is larger in-size. Is there
anyone present who would like to speak for this application?
WARD R. TABOR: Yes, I would.
THE CHAIRMAN: As I understand it from the application, access will
be deeded. I don't think that is necessary. I think the Board would
prefer, if we have any influence on the matter, that you use Ward Tabor's
driveway for access to this land-locked 33,000 square foot parcel whiCh
is to be created because of the additional curb cuts. If the 15 foot
access were placed ~djoin~n~L~:~build~g o~.~h~h~us~l®t~it~la~re-
quire another curb cut of 15 feet directly opposite the church and' there
is enough traffic there now. From our standpoint, we would prefer you use
the right-of-way ~h~ now exists. You may then provide in deeds when
this is conveyed and have it be a matter of record for whoever owns the
33,000 square feet now or in the future. Is that agreeable?
MR. TABOR: Yes, but could we make a 15 foot right-of-way to the
west of the property and not use it ~ntil the future? At some time in
the future we might want to sell this property to someone outside the
family, and we might ~o%~ wish them to use my driveway as an access.~ Or
could this be changed in the future?
THE CHAIRMAN: I don't know why you couldn't have two accesses.
The 15 feet you suggest, in which case it would be deede~~.~l~to~he
property owners behind you and also the present right-of-way. ~s i under-
stand it th~s is preferable to you. You wi~sh to maintain the right to
extinguish the right-of-way over your property in the future~
MR. TABOR: That's right. If the property ever changed hands, we
would want to make provisions for that.
MR. DOUGLASS: Another thing that came into my mind;_Wa~d when we
were looking at it, was what would happen if you opened the 15 feet you
are talking about and close your present driveway? Then you could run
a driveway to your house off the new 15 foot right-of-way and have grass
across the entire front of your house.
MR. TABOR: I ha~e too much to mow now. The only thing is, I have
the asphalt driveway now, and I would hate to dig it up. It might be
possible in the future to do as you suggest.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is the westward edge of your property right there
at the back of the garage where those trees are growing?
MR. TABOR: Yes.
THE CHAIRMAN: The trees would have to be removed for the new
right-of-way. I think the Board could do it as you sugge~st.
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MR. TABOR: Yes, be there and possibly never be touched. Just
be on paper so it could be taken advantage of.
· HE CHAIRMAN: So you would deed the 15 feet to the back lot, and
grant a right-of-way provisionally, extinguishable, at any time over
your driveway. When you fix up the rest of the right-of-way it will be
a "T-Shaped, arrangement? Do you think this will take care of it? Is
there anyone else who wishes to speak for this application?
MRS. JANET TABOR: I don't know if you are aware that the property
we have been speaking about is owned by my husband, F~ed, and his brother,
Wendell Tabor.
THE CHAIRMAN: I was going to ask who owned it.
MRS. TABOR: They own the property together. Wendell has written
a letter which states: "To Whom It May Concern: I, Wendell Tabor, do
hereby relinquish my one-half (1/2) interest in the parcel of land located
in Orient, N. Y., to Fred and Jane Tabor. Said parcel ~s north by Ward
Tabor, south and east by William Schriever, west by Wendell Tabor and
Fred Tabor. Further identified on Suffolk County Tax Map as 1000-018-05
part of lot 009. signed Wendell Tabor."
THE CHAIRMAN: I think all of this should be recorded. Yes, we
would like to have a copy for the file. Is there anyone else who wishes
to speak for this?
WILLIAM SCNRIEVER: I would like to speak sometime. I already have
a letter on this application there. I don't wish to speak for or against
this.
THE CHAIRMAN: Do you wish me to read the letter you have there?
MR. SCHRIEVER: N~ necessarily. It just says that I have a
business there and a subdivision there and I do not have any objection
to their division, and hope they have not objection to what I am doing.
THE CHkt~RMAN: Do they have any objection to what you are.doing?
Ml%~ $~C~RIEVER: As far as I know, they don't.
THE CHAIRMAN: ~his is a letter from William Schriever addressed
to the Board of.Appeal, s. The Chairman read this letter into the record.
A copy is annexed hereto and forms a part hereof. I think this clarifies
tion? (there was no response)
MR. SCHRIEVER: Before you make your motion, I brought a map into
the office this afternoon which shows an adaptation of the division of this
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lot which I thought the Board might consider.
THE CHAIRMAN: I don't think it is relevant to this application?
MR. SCHRIEVER: The reason I suggested it, is that if the variance
is granted for the area that is presently proposed on the application
then to make the area smaller by this change, would require a new appli-
cation. So if the area granted were small enough to accom~'~a%e%this,.
~he~,~wo~d~accommodate both, and that would leave the parties with
this chd~ce. That is my suggestion. (Looking at Mr. Schriever's Map)
THE CHAIRMAN: Well, it seems to me that this suggestion should
come from the owners of the lots.
MR. SCHRIEVER: The reason I am making this suggestion is because
of the fact that my subdivision provides this strip to widen the pro-
perties which this would then fit into.
THE CHAIRMAN: You would deed them the properties?
MR. SCHRIEVER: Yes. So I would like to deed this little triangle
to Wendell. If he had the other property to straighten out the line.
THE CHAIRMAN: It looks like a quadrangle instead of a triangle.
Are we talking about the 3,959 square feet?
F~~. SCHRIEVER: The one they now own is the trapezoidal piece.
If you e~end that line parallel to the road.
THE CHAIRMAN: I think that could done by a separate transaction.
I do not think it would require action by the Board of Appeals.
MR. SCHRIEVER: When you grant a variance ~ouc~rant it for a
certain area. Then if you exchange properties after that, you would
then void~ ~ the action.
THE CHAIR~N: It becomes a matter of record. ~t is added or
subtracted from the property. As far as our records are concerned, we
do not keep tract of all the deeds.
MR. SCSRI~VER: If you granted a variance for a 20,000 square foot
e ~
p~r~ ~.$-~you could not decrease it?
THE CHAIRMAN: Right.
MR, SCHRIEVER: That is my point, if you grant this f~r 33,000
square feet and this plan creates one of 27,000 square feet, it would
be a decr~ase~n~q~e~ootage. Therefore, it would require coming
back before this board. It is,relevant to the subdivision itself, it
is just relevant to the area. /not
THE CHAIRMAN: I think we better consider what is ~n the application.
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Whatever is done later is not the matter in front of us tonight. Nor
can we legally change the application tonight. Is there anyone who
wishes to speak against this application? (there was no response).
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that the
applicant wishes to divide 1.3 acres into two parcels. One parcel will
have 24,500 square feet and the other parcel will have 33,000 square
feet. The findings of the Board are that in the block of properC-y
extending from Main Road to Orchard Street, most of the properties
bordering on the street are less than 40,000 square feet with the
exception of the Schriever subdivision.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance would
produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship; the hardship
created is unique and would not be shared by all properties alike in
the immediate vicinity of the property and in the same use district;
and the variance will not change the character of the neighborhood and
will observe the spirit of the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED that Russell Tabor and Sons, Main Road, Orient, New York,
be GRANTED permission to divide property with insufficient area and
front and rear yard setbacks~and GRANTED recognition of access. Loca-
tion of property: Main Road, Orient, New York, bounded on the north by
Main Road and Tabor; east by Tabor and Schriever; south by Tabor and
Schriever; west by Village Lane and Schriever, upon the following condi-
tions:
(1) The applicant is acquiring a right-of-way from Ward Tabor to
the 33,000 square foot lot over an existing black topped driveway which
passes to the West of Ward Tabor's house. A further means of access to
this property is being provided by a 15 foot access for a distance of
125 feet bordering on the westerly line of Ward Tabor's property. ~ke
access provided over Ward Tabor's driveway is provisional and may be
revoked by the present or future owner of the Ward Tabor property.
(2) Ail deeds relative to the division and access should be filed
with the Board of Appeals within six (6) months.
(3) Suffolk County Planning Commission Approval.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs: Gillispie, Grigonis, Doyen,
Tuthill, and Douglass.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2482 - Upon application of Harry M.
Jaquillard, 13100 Main Road, Mattituck, New York, for a variance in
accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article VII, Section 100-71 and
Bulk Schedule for permission to construct an addition to a greenhouse
with insufficient side yard area. LocatiQn of property: Main Road,
Mattituck, New York, bounded on the north by Main Road; east by W. L.
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Grabie; south by John Wickham; west by R. C. Kopf.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application for
a variance, legal notice of hearing, affidavits attesting to its publi-
cation in the official newspapers of the Town, and disapproval from the
Building Inspector. The Chairman also read a statement from the Town
Clerk that notification had been made to: W. L. Grabie, R. C. Kopf,
and John Wickham. Fee paid $15.00.
THE CHAIRMAN: This property is located in Mattituck on the Main
Road on the south side shortly before you come to the curve. The
addition that Mr. Jaquillard wishes to put on his building would not eli-
minate his driveway. He would still have more than an 18 foot driveway
to the west of the building and to the east of the building. This drive-
way continues around the entire operation. Is there anyone who wishes
to speak for this application? (there was no response.) Is there anyone
who wishes to speak a~ainst this application? (there was no response.)
Are there any questions from the Board?
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that the
applicant wishes to construct a green house on the easterly side of his
garden shop. The findings of th~ Board are that this addition will not
seriously affect the driveway on the easterly side of building and is
contiguous to his garden shop. There will still be an 18 foot driveway
around this property.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance would
produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship; the hardship
created ts unique and would not be shared by all properties alike in
the immediate vicinity of the property and in the same use district;
and the variance will not change the character of the neighborhood and
will observe the spirit of the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Doyen, it was
RESOLVED that Harry M. Jaquillard, 13100 Main Road, Mattituck,
New York, be GRANTED permission to construct an addition to his garden
shop with insufficient side yard area as requested. Location of property:
Main Road, Mattituck, New York, bounded on the north by Main Road; east
by W. L. Grabie; south by John Wickham; west by R. C. Kopf, subject to
the following:
Approval of the Suffolk County Planning ~ommission.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs: Gillispie, Grigonis, Doyen,
Tuthill and Douglass.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2477- Upon application of James
Melrose, 39 Robinson Road~ Greenport, New York, for a variance in
accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-31 and
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Bulk Schedule for permission to construct a house with insufficient
front and rear yards. Location of property: Robinson Road, Greenport,
New York, bounded on the north by Robinson Road; east by Troyan; south
by Sterling Basin; west by R. Melrose.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application for
a variance, legal notice of hearing, affidavits attesting to its publi-
cation in the official newspapers, and disapproval from the Building
Inspector, The Chairman also read a statement from the Town Clerk that
notification had been made to: Robert G. Melrose and John Troyan. Fee
paid $15.00.
THE CHAIRMAN: There is a letter from H. W. Davids, P. E. Chief
Engineer, Bureau of Environmental Health addressed to Mr. James Melrose
reiative to his application ~0' Construct an individual sewage disposal
system on property on the east side of Robinson Road, Greenport, New
York, which readS in part: "At the hearing held on September 15, 1978,
you had an opportunity to present your appeal to the department's ruling
on the Subject application. In accordance with the provisions of
Section 220~of Article 2 of the Suffolk County Sanitary Code, the de-
termination of the Board of Review is as follows: Based on the infor-
mation submitted, to approve the application, installing the sewage
disposal system the furthest possible distance from Sterling Basin but
not less than 70 feet. Since the determination of the Board Of Review
submitted to the Commissioner's office on September 26, 1978, has not
been reversed or modified by him, it is therefore deemed to be the
determlnati~n of the Commissioner." We have in addition a letter from
the Regional Permft Administrator, New York State Depar~tment of Environ-
mental COnsarvation to Mr. Melrose, which states: "This is to inform
you that we.~have reviewed the notification letter filed on July 28, 1978,
ba~o% bee~ !.~§~ or modified by him, it is therefore deemed to be
the determi~a ~n~of the Commissioner." We also have a letter from the
Regional Per~
~dministrator, New York State Department of Environmental
Cons~rva~io~ ~. Melrose, which reads in part: "This is to inform
you that we !h ~ reviewed the notification letter filed on July 28, 1978,
and have de~e~ in~d that it will not be necessary to file a permit appli-
cation or s~cure'a ~idal wetlands permit to construct a one-family
dwelling ~ south side Robinson Road (lot 7, Sterling Harbor Home
Sites), ~own of Southold. Assuming you have obtained all
other , you may ~roceed with your project adhering to
the s ~nditions (if any) found on this letter. Home is to be 35
feet behind iline 0f mean high water." Signed Daniel J. Larkin. Is
there anyone present who wishes to speak for this application?
MR. ROBERT MELROSE: Needless to say I am in favor of the appli-
cation. I have discussed this matter with Mr. Troyan, who owns the
property on the other side. He has no objection a~d Offered to have
someone come down here to represent him tonight.
THE C~RMAN: Is this the lot that Stuart Dorman acquired in the
late 50's. I ~hink he wanted it for a harbor for his boat. We have
the old file here. This is from the action of June 30, i959 in which
states no dwelling is planned to be erected on the premises. It is
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believed the purchaser plans to use the property to construct docking
facilities thereon so the p
no structure being built the
varying Section 1000A and de
the Ordinance as applied for
Later, Mr. Dorman asked to b
at that time to a boathouse
to build a house on it, and
permission. Is.there public
more than 70 feet from mean
anyone who wishes to speak a
response). The property is
residence.
will you?
~emises would remain as they presently are,
~eon. Application is specifically granted
~ying the variance to the other sections of
, without prejudice to future applications.
aild a boathouse. We restricted the property
~nd docking facilities. Now you are asking
~ou have DEC permission and Board of Health
~ater there? Any cesspool will be placed
high water (Sterling Ha~or). Is there
~ainst this application? (%here was no
to be used for the construction of a one-family
You won't have any trouble with the side yard restrictions
THE CHAIRMAN: How wide is the property where you are going to
build a house?
MR. MELROSE: The lot has two dimensions since it is a tapered
lot. The minimum distance is 25 plus 47 which is 72 feet.
THE CHAIRMAN: That iS the minimum?
MR. MELROSE: At the lower end it is considerably wider because
the lot is pie shaped.
THE CHAIRMAN: In other words, you will have no problem in getting
a house in there. At the time this lot was created, the side yard re-
quirements were 10 and 15 feet totali~325 feet.
MR. MELROSE: That is what I am planning on.
THE~CHAIRMAN: The front yard setback is now 50 feet and a lot of
the old lots cannot be used that way.
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that the
applicant wishes to Construct. aene family dwelling on a pie-shaped
parcel of propert~ on the south side of Robinson Road and requirers front
and rear yard setbacks. At the time the lot was created the side yard
setbacks were 10 and 15 feet totaling 25 feet. The Board agrses with
the reasoning of the applicant.
Th~ Board finds that strict application of the :Ordinance would
produce practioaI~ difficulties or unnecessary hardship; the hardship
created is unique and would not be shared by all properties aIike ~n
the immediate vicinity of the property and in the same use district;
and the variance will not change the character of the neighborhood and
will observe the spiri~ of the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr.-Grigonis, it was
P~SOLVED that James Melrose, 39 Robinson Roa~ Greenport, New
b~ ~N~.pe~m~s~o~ ~o ~co~st~ a-~use with insufficient front
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October 19, 1978
and rear yards. Location of property: Robinson Road, Greenport, New
Y~rk, bounded on the north by Robinson Road; east by Troyan; south by
Sterling Basin; west by R. Melrose, subject to the following conditions:
(1) Construction shall be done according to restrictions set
forth by the Board of Health and DEC.
(2) The house shall be located no closer than 24-1/2 feet to
Robinson Road.
(3) Approval of the Suffolk County Planning Commission.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs:
Tuthill and Douglass.
Gillispie, Grigonis, Doyen,
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2476 - Upon application of William
and Peggy White, First Street, New Suffolk, New York, for- a variance
in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article VI, Section 100-61
and Bulk Schedule for permission to divide property with insufficient
frontage. Location of property: First Street, New Suffolk, New York,
bounded on the north by Frances Majeski; east by First Street; south
by Main Street; west by J. Kinczell.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application for a
variance, legal notice of hearing, affidavits attesting to its publi-
cation in the official newspapers, and disapproval from the Building
Inspector. The Chairman also read a statement from the Town Clerk that
notification had been sent to: Athanas Zamphiroff, Mr. and Mrs. J.
Kinczell, and Mr. Marion Majeski. Fee paid: $15.00.
THE CHAIRMAN: Provided with this application is a sketch which
indicates that.the property in question is approximately 119 feet by
75 feet which works out to approximately 8,945 square feet. It isn't
shown on the application how the division is to be made. Is there any-
one present here who wishes to speak for this application?
WILLIAM WHITE: I would like to divide the property in half.
Approximately 75 feet by 55 feet.
THE CHAIRMAN: We weren't sure how you wanted to do it. Offhand,
I would say this line drawn here is the outline of the building in the
northeast corner of the property.
MR. WHITE: I don't believe we made a sketch of the property.
THE CHAIRMAN: Oh, that's right. This is a survey of Van Tuyl
without a date. Where are the cesspools for these two properties which
will be ~reated if this is granted?
MR. WHITE: They are both separate. The cottage has its own
cesspools. Our residence and the store has its own system. They are
both within the property lines of what I wish to do.
THE CHAIRMAN: In other words, if this property were divided in
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half at 75 feet in depth and approximately 59 feet in width for the
cottage on Main Street, the cesspool for the cottage will be on its
own property. Vice versa for the store. That building which is leaning
in the back yard, is that the approximate area where the cesspools are
located?
MR. WHITE: No, the store has its own cesspools located in the
driveway. The cottage has the pools right along side of the house on
the east.
THE CHAIRMAN: How about the little concrete block addition on
the southerly side of the store.
MR. WHITE: That is a cooler. That was for scallops many years
ago before I even bought the property. We don't even-use it anymore,
but it is there.
THE CHAIRMAN: When you divide this property, how much room do
you have on the south side of this cooler?
MR. WHITE: Approximately 15 feet, I would say.
THE CHAIRMAN: You have enough room to get a truck by it? A
cesspool truck? Does anyone else have any questions? (there was no
response.) Does anyone wish to speak agalnst this application? (there
was no response.) Your proposal as I understand it is to sell the
co~age?
MR. WHITE: Yes sir, we cannot sw~ng both of them.
THE CHAIRMAN: You are going to continue to run the business?
MR. WHITE: We would really like to find someone we could rent
it to. We have been living upstairs and renting the business. That
business is 7 days a week and 20 hours per day.
MR. TUTHILL: Are you open during the w~nter?
MR. WHITE: No, just strictly during the summer.
THE CHAIRMAN: So the plan is to sell both the business and
the cottage after the division of the property?
MR. WHITE: Yes.
~fter investigation and inspection, the Board finds that the
applicant wishes to divide his property which contains a summer cottage
and a seasonal business. The Board a~rees with the reasoning of the
applicant. The findings of the Board are that the character of the area
will not be diminished by this division of the property. There will be
no change in the outer appearance of the .properties. For economic
reasons the applicants request this division.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance would
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produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship; the hardship
created is unique and would not be shared by all properties alike in
the immediate vicinity of the ~r~er~t~%~ and in the same use district;
and the variance will not chan~e t~e character of the neighborhood and
will observe the spirit of the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Douglass, it was
RESOLVED, that William and Peggy White, First Street, New Suffolk,
New York, be GRANTED permission to divide property with insufficient
frontage as requested. Location of the property: First Street, New
Suffolk, New York, ~bounded on the north by Frances Majeski; east by
First Street; south by Main Street; west by J. Kinczell, subject to the
followin~:
Approval of the Suffolk County Planning Commission.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs: Gillispie, Grigonis, Doyen,
Tuthill and Douglass.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2475 Upon application of Raymond
and Adah Redfield, 255 Willow Street, Roslyn Heights, New York, for a
variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section
100-31 and Bulk Schedule for permission to divide property with insuf-
ficient area and width. Location of property: Paradise Shores Road,
Southold, New York, bounded on the north by Private Road; east by
Daiker; south by O'Toole; west by Private Road.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application for a
variance, legal notice of hearing, affidavits attesting to its publica-
tion in the official newspapers, and disapproval from the Building
Inspector. The Chairman also read a statement from the Town Clerk that
nQtification had been sen~ to: Bertram Daiker and Mr. and Mrs. John
O'Toole. Fee paid $15.00.
THE CHAIRMAN: When we found this place, we found Mr. O'Toole and
he explained it ~to us. Is Mr. O'Toole here?
JQHN O'TOOLE: Yes, I am. Needless to say, I am in favor of it,
since ! am the one who is going to receive the property.
THE:CHAIRMAN: You have been using it for all these years? Cuttin~
the g~ass and whatever else was requir~d~It ..... ~ ~
is a very nice looking piece
of property. Your neighbor lets his grow with trees. As far as we can
see there would be no Other change. Is there anyone else who wishes to
speak for this application? (there was no response). Is there anyone
who wishes to speak against this application? f~here was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the ~o.ard finds that the
applicant wishes to convey a portion of his property 10 feet by 48 feet
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to his neighbor who has been using this portion of the property for
the past 18 years. The findings of the Board are that this will not
change the character of the neighborhood in any way.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance would
produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship; the hardship
created is unique and would not be shared by all properties alike in
the immediate vicinity of the property and in the same use district;
and the variance will not change the character of the neighborhood and
will observe the spirit of the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Tuthill, seconded by Mr. Douglass, it was
RESOLVED ~&t Raymond and Adah Redfield, 255 Willow Street, Roslyn
Heights, New York, be GRANTED~perm~ssion to divide property with insuf-
ficient area and width as~re~U~sted. _Lo~a~ign of property: Paradise
Shores Road, Southold, New York, bounded on the north by Private Road;
east by Daiker; south by O'Toole; west by Private Road, subject to the
followIng:
Approval of the Suffolk County Planning Commission
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs: Gillispie, Grigonis, Doyen,
Tuthill and Douglass.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2480 Upon application of Sarah
Rauch, 1223 Cornegia Avenue, Par Rockaway, New York, (John S. Sherwood,
as Agent), for a special exception to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III,
Section 100-30 B 9 (a) for permission to construct a storage b~i~ding
with shower, a bulkhead, ramp and mooring float. Location of property:
Gull Pond Lane, Greenport, New York, bounded on the north by Germansky
and others; east by Fordham Canal; south by Rutkowski and others and
west by Gull Pond Lane.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application for a
special exception to the Zoning Ordinance, legal notice of hearing,
affidavits atte~sting to its publication in the official newspapers, and
disapproval from the Building Inspector. The Chairman also read a state-
ment from t~he T~%~n Clerk that notification had been made to: Violet
Germansky and others, Helen Rutkowski and others. Fee paid,Si5.00.
The notice to the neighbors indicates that the
special relief is requested to conStruct a 12 bY 15 foot storage
bulkhead, ramp and mooring float. ~S Stated in
the s note, it is part of property that was surveyed
for Ci~ others. Van Tuyl surveyed it.'6n January 7, 1975.
This is located on filled land which is not Suitable for residential use~;
however, it is the duty of the Board to determine the most appropriate
use of the land whic'h is not suitable for residential use. By way of
precedent, we have already granted a special exception on ~the adjoining
property to the south for approximately what this applicant requests.
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Is there<anyone present who wishes to speak for this application?
JOHN SHERWOOD: As agent for Mrs. Rauck, who is enjoying a vaca-
tion an Europe, I would like to speak in favor of the application. I
have the site plan ready and will present it to the Planning Board for
their consideration, and I hope their approval at the first opportunity.
THE CHAIRMAN: As far as the site plan is concerned, then we do
not have to get involved with setbacks, dimensions or anything.
MR. SHERWOOD: Unless you would care to?
think
THE CHAIRMAN: I don't think so. I don't/we did in the other
application of Harold Stetler on the property to the south of this.
We left it up to the Planning Board. The resolution which granted the
s~%in~side~f~this lot reads as follows: THEREFORE IT WAS RESOLVED
that Reg~n~id-Hud~on a/c Claire Brody and others, 136 Front Street,
Greenport, New York, be GRANTED permission to set aside Lot B as applied
for in accordance with applicant's metes and bounds as 'described in the
survey referred to above subject to the following conditions: (1) Cove-
nanted agreements restricting or prohibiting this property for residential
use, without prior approval of the Board of Appeals, shall be filed in
the County Clerk's Office. (2) That before the applicant may be permitted
dockage and mooring privileges for small boats as an accessory use, a
special exception shall be applied for from the Board of Appeals. (3)
Site plan approval shall be obtained from the Planning Board. (4) Any
sanitary facilities installed on this property shall be subject to the
approval of the Board of Health. (5) That this approval shall be sub-
ject to applicant obtaining proper documents from the State and County
Environmental Control Commissions. That is the governing document. In
this application, the same conditions would apply. Is there anyone else
who wishes to speak for this application? (there was no response). Is
there anyone who wishes to speak against this application? (there was
no response.) Are there any questions?
MR. DOUGLASS: Mr. Sherwood, in this you apply for a certain
lengthldock and so much float, but you also apply for bulkhead. In the
adjoining property, I have pictures of the next door neighbors, and I
would like to know the situation of the dock and the bulkhead. Into the
channel?
MR. SHERWOOD: The bulkhead will be at or above high water mark.
The dock will be similar to the one on the south. Half of the dock will
be on the upland and half down to low water. The ramp will then go down
frOm the dock down to the floating dock.
MR. DOUGLASS: In other words, you do not intend to protrude out
into the channel more than the neighboring properties.
MR. SHERWOOD: No, it will be the same situation. The end result
will be that the two floating docks will be along side of each Other.
THE CHAIRMAN: These will be parallel to the shore and will not
protrude any more into the channel than the adjoining one.
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~. SHERWOOD: Well, they say a picture is worth a thousand
words, so here is what the plot plan looks like. The dimensions are
such that it won't go beyond the floating dock itself.
MR. DOUGLASS: I took this specifically at dead low so we could
see where the stoppage of the dock was and where the float started.
Thinking mainly of how far out into the channel you would go.
MR. SHERWOOD: We are aware of that, and we would not go out
beyond the one located to the south.
THE CHAIRM~N: This would require 8 piles to which is attached
a 6~by_80 foot fixating dock which is approximately 30 feet from the top
of the bank. The way that bank slopes you would not think it is 30 feet.
This proposal woul~d almost be identical to the one next door. Are there
any other questions? Is there anyone present who wishes to speak against
this application? (there was no response.)
After investigation and inspection, the Board finds that the
applicant requests permission to use property for dockage and mooring
privileges for 2 yachts. The findings of the Board are that the appli-
cant is aware that this lot may never be used for residential use and
the proposed site plan appears to be well suited to the lot. The
applicant proposes to dock no more than 2 pleasure boats. The applicant
understands that this is for non-commercial use only.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance would
produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship; the hardship
created is unique and would not be shared by all properties alike in
the immediate vicinity of the property and in the same use district;
and the variance will not change the character of the neighborhood and
will observe the spirit of the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Douglass, seconded by Mr. Gillispie, it was
RESOLVED that Sarah Rauch, 1223 Cornegia Avenue, Far Rockaway,
New York, (John S. Sherwood, as Agent), be GRANTED permission to con-
struct a storage building with shower, a bulkhead, a ramp and mooring
float as requested. Location of property: Gull Pond Lane, Greenport,
New York, bounded on the north by Germansky and others; east by Fordham
Canal; south by Rutkowski and others; west by Gull Pond Lane, subject
to the following conditions:
(1) That the accessory building to be erected shall be no
larger than 12 feet by 16 feet.
(2) No personal property may be stored anywhere on the premises
except in the storage building.
(3) Dockage and mooring facilities shall be limited to the
accommodation of not more than two (2) non-commercial pleas~.a boats
wk~ch shall be no larger than 40 feet in length.
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(4) Covenanted agreements restricting or prohibiting this
property for residential use, without prior approval of the Board of
Appeals, shall be filed in the County Clerk's office.
(5) That before the applicant may be permitted dockaqe and
mooring privileges for small boats as any accessory use, a s~ecial
exception shall be applied for from the Board of Appeals.
(6) Site Plan Approval shall be obtained from the Planning
Board.
(7) Any sanitary facilities installed on this property shall
be subject to the approval of the Board of Health.
(8) That this approval shall be subject to applicant obtaining
proper documents from the State and County Environmental Control Com-
missions.
(9) This application is subject to the approval of the SuffOlk
County Planning Commission.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs: Gillispie, Grigonis, Doyen,
Tuthill and Douglass.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2481 - Upon application of Jean Case,
New Suffolk Lane, Cutchogue, New York; Bruce McLean Case, New Suffolk
Lane, Cut~o.gUe~ New Yor~; and Walter Teresko, New Suffolk Lane, Cutcho-
gue, New York, iRichard F. Lark, Esq.) for a variance in accordance with
the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-31 and Bulk Schedule for
permission to divide property with insufficient frontage. Location of
property: N~w Suffolk R~ad, Cutchogue, New York, bounded on the north
by James Horton; east by John Wickham; south by other land of Teresko;
west by New Suffolk Road.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application for a
variance to the Zoning Ordinance, legal notice of hearing, affidavits
attesting to its publication in the official newspapers, and disapproval
from the Building'Inspector. The Chairman also read a statement from
the Town Clerk that notification had been made to: James Horton, John
Wickham, Esther Teresko, William Beebe. Fee paid $15.00.
'~} CHAIRMAN: The basic relief requested is a variance so that
Jean Case and Bruc~ McLean Case may sell a strip 125 feet wide bM 500
long to Walter Te~esko at the rear of ~heir present proper~ty, w~eca
letter h~re from Mr. John Wickham, who has n~ object'on to ~his aPpiY~a-
tion. Is there anyons present who wishes to speak for. this application?
RICHARD F. LARK, ESQ: For the Applicant. I won't belabor the
point. I think all of the reasoning of the applicants is stated in the
petition, Mr. Chairman. I would point out however, there are 2 reasons
they are here. One, they cannot satisfy the 150 foot width requirement
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for a building lot, which is impossible in this situation because the
lot is only 125 feet wide, as you can see from the survey and inspecting
the property. The other is, t~at if the Board does grant her appiication,
to sell the property to the co-applicant, Mr. Teresko, she will be left
with a lot less than 40,000 square feet, to wit: 24,000 square feet. I
think you can see from inspecting the property and looking where the
proposed division line i~ 200 feet to the rear, it does leave her the
residence and accessory building, which is the barn for her dwelling
purposes which is in conformity with that established neighborhood. That
would then enable Mr. Teresko to purchase the bulk of the pr.emises. As
I understand it, he would be purchasing 61,000 square feet which he intends
to use as indicated in the application for an expansion of his plant farm.
Primarily to plant shrubs and things of that nature used in his business.
If the Board has any question, Mr. Teresko, Mrs. Case and her son are all
present.
THE CHAIRMAN: I don't have any questions. It is certainly well
prepared. From this survey it is obvious that the property to be created
is in a residential area. The lot to be created on behalf of the Cases'
is approximately the same size or larger than the adjoining lots in
either direction. To the south, 20,000 square feet in eack of the lots.
To the north, 21,0QO, 16,000, 26,000 square feet. So this is in con-
formity with the adjoining p~operty and also will not increase the density.
It will tend to maintain the density at a low level. Are there any other
questions? Is there anyone present Who wishes to speak against this
application? (there was no response).
After investigation the Board finds that the applicants wish to
divide their property into a house parc~l-~con~ainin~$~OQ
feet and the remaining 61,000 square feet will be sold to Mr. Walter
TereskQ for use in his plant farm business. The size of the residence
lot is in conformity with the adjoining property and also will, not increase
the density of the area. The Board agrees with the reasoning of the
applicants.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance would
produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship; the hardship
created is unique and would not be shared by all properties alike in
the immediate vicinity of the property and in the same use district;
and the variance will not change the character of the neighborhood and
will observe the spirit of the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr.~ Doyen, it was
RESOLVED that Jean Case, New Suffolk Lane~ Cutchogue, New York;
Bru~e .~ea~ :Case, New suffolk Lane, CUtchogue, New Y0~k~ and walker
Teresko, New Suffolk Lane, Cutchogue, New York, be GRANTED permission
to divide property with insufficient frontage. Location of property:
New Suffolk Road, Cutchogue, New York, bounded on the north by James
Horton; east by John Wickham; south by other land of Teresko; west by
New Suffolk Road, subject to the following:
Approval of the Suffolk County Planning Commission.
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS -20- October 19, 1978
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs: Gillispie, Grigonis, Doyen,
Tuthill and Douglass.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. ~2483 - Upon application of Susan
Jacobs, Soundview Avenue, Mattituck, New York, for a variance in ac-
cordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 160-32 for
permission to construct an accessory building in the front yard area.
Location of property: Soundview Avenue, Mattituck, New York, bounded
on the north by Long Island Sound; east by Saltaire Civic Association;
south by Soundview Avenue; west by J. McLaughlin.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application for a
variance to the Zoning Ordinance, legal notice of hearing, affidavits
attesting to its publication in the official newspapers, and disapproval
from the Building Inspector. The Chairman also read a statement from
the Town Clerk that notification had been made to: Joseph McLaughlin
and Saltaire Civic Association.
THE CPL~IRM~N: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak for
this application?
SUSAN JACOBS: I think the application states it all. I have no
backyard.
THE CHAIRMAN: When we drove out there we saw that you had a
wooded front yard toward the ~ro~d. ~ a car was parked there in a
clearing. I believe the property is about 101 feet wide.
MRS. JACOBS: It varies from 100 to 110 feet.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is that where you propose to put the storage
building. Is it to be a garage or just an ~st®rag~ building?
MRS. JACOBS: It will be a 10 foot by 12 foot storage shed, and
will be set back approximately 70 feet back from the road.
MR. TUTHILL: Where it is cleared?
MRS. JACOBS: No, I plan to take down a couple of trees just to
the east of that.
THE CHAIRMAN: Further north?
MRS. JACOBS: No, further east. I don't want to see it either.
can just be there.
THE CHAIRMAN: Then it would be all riqht with you if we re~
that it be at least 50 feet back from Soundvil~w Avenue? .....
MRS. JACOBS: Oh sure.
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THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone else who would like to speak in
favor of this application? (there was no response.) Is there anyone who
would like to speak against this application?
RICHARD MENARD: I represent the Sattaire Civic Association.
would just like to ask how~far the shed would be from the easterly
boundary line. We have a beach right-of-way there.
THE CHAIRMAN: I thought that the man who used to haul the garbage
was on the easterly boundary?
MRS. JACOBS: No, there is a 30 foot right-of-way before his
property.
THE CHAIRMAN: Where you have a 30 foot right-of-way there, I
would think Mrs. Jacobs would want to keep this off the right-of-way.
MRS. JACOBS: I am not concerned about that, but it will be at
least 15 feet in from t~eir fence.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone who wishes to ask any questions
or speak on this application? (there was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that the
applicant wishes to erect an accessory shed in her front yard area. The
findings of the Board are that the applicant has plenty of area between
her house and Soundview Avenue to place a i0 by 12 foot storage shed
among the trees. The Board is in agreement with the reason.lng of the
Applicant.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance would
produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship; the hardship
created is unique and would not be shared by all properties alike in
the immediate vicinity of the property and in the same use district;
and the variance will not change the character of the neighborhood and
will observe the spirit of the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Tuthill, seconded by Mr. Gillispie, it was
RESOLUED, that Susan Jacobs, 605 Soundview Avenue, Mattituck, New
York, be GRANTED permission to erect an accessory building in the front
yard area as requested. Location of property: Soundview Avenue, Matti-
tuck, New York, bounded on the north by Long Ill,land Sound; east by Sal-
taire Civic Association; south by Soundview Avenue; west by J. McLaughlin,
subject to the following conditions:
(1) The accessory building shall be no larger than 10 x 15 feet.
(2) The accessory building shall be located at least 50 feet from
Soundview Avenue and at leas~ 15 feet from the easterly side yard.
(3) Approval of the Suffolk County Planning Commission.
SOUTH~LD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS -22- October 19, 1978
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs: Gillispie, Grigonis, Doyen,
Tuthitl and Douglass.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2479 - Upon application of Henry
Luce, III, Fishers Island, New York, (Eric Haas, Esq.) for a variance
in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-30
C 2 for permission to construct a fence around an underground pool.
Location of property: Fishers Island, New York, bounded on the north
by Private Road; east by Simmons; south by Block Island Sound; west by
Coffee.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application for a
variance to the Zoning Ordinance, legal notice of hearing, affidavits
attesting to its publication in the official newspapers, and disapproval
from the Building Inspector. The Chairman also read a statement from
the Town Clerk that notification had been made to: Sanford G. Simmons
and Oneleee M. ~offee. Fee paid $15.00
MR. DOYEN: Mr. Haas, Mr. Luce's attorney, called the day before
yesterday to advise me that Mr. Luce would be unable to attend this
hearing. Ne wan%ed to know if that would prejudice Mr. Luce's case. I
informed him that his mere presence would not make any difference one
way or the other on the case unless he had something else to offer. He
wanted to know that the Board would not ~e~r~u~iC~d~ec~~. -L~ce
could not be present at the meeting.
THE CHAIRMAN: I think you have marked the wrong lot here. It
borders on Long Island Sound.
THE SECRETARY: Doesn't this go both sides of the right-of-way.
Mr. Sherwood helped me.
THE CHAIRMAN: I could be. I don't think there is a house here.
MR. DOYEN: If there ever was an application to grant the elimina-
tion of a fence, this is it. First of all, I believe a fence protects
the children of a family. There is a fence before you get to the pool.
There is no way a child from that family can get to that pool. If they
put up %he fence, a child could climb over the bluff and get to the pool.
He could lose his life by climbing the bluff just as easily as climbing
over the fence to the pool. A child cannot wander around there and not
get into more trouble than falling into a pool.
MR. DOUGLASS: It depends where he puts the fence.
MR. DOYEN: When a small child wanders around that property, he
can fall down that cliff and get killed.
MR. DOUGLASS: Not if the fence is before the Cliff.
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MR. TUTHILL: I would not want to go too close to that cliff.
THE CHAIRMAN: I agree with the fact that the location is very
remote. In fact more remote than Mr. Schmid's location.
MR. DOYEN: But there is even protection for children in the
household. That is the point I want to make. I am always interested
in that point when someone tells me that they don't need a fence.
Another aspect is if the pool is empty. That is a da~ger. An adult
can fall into an empty pool.
THE CHAIRMAN: One of the things that influenced our fencing
provision is someone just jumped into a pool that was not quite full.
He died after jumping into the shallow end of the pool. Is there any-
one else who has any comments concerning this application? (there was
no response.) Is there anyone who wishes to speak against this appli-
cation? (there was no response.) If not, I will have to speak against
it. I don't think it is the function of this Board to vary a safety
regulation Which is basically what the request is in this application.
An Ordinance passed by the Town would require more extraordinary circum-
stances than what exist here to eliminate the requirement for a fence.
After investigation and inspection, the Board finds that the
applicant permission to eliminate a swimming pool fence, Private
Road, Pish~ Island, New York, in a remote location at the easterly end
of the Island~ The findings of the Board are that the applicant owns
a swiauming (constructed prior to the fencing regulation) situated
between an y landscaped home and Block Island Sound. Access
is by means driveway off a private road several miles from
the center Island. Large areas of a tract and nearby areas
are covered With dense native underbrush, and the pool is partly pro-
tected from casual intrusion by a steep bank to the south toward the
beack. We agree that the remote location of the pool and its surroundings
reduces the possibility of accidents involving casual intruders. A
number of pools in the Town of Southold are located similarly to achieve
privacy by m~ans of some or all of the methods noted by the applicant.
No one has ever been granted a fencing variance. A fence would not have
prevented the only Southold Town fatality. (the man jumped into a par-
tially filled pool.) It is the obligation of the Board of Appeals to
require all ~easonable safety precautions.
Accordingly, the Board finds that the hardship is not unique or
unusual and ~ha~ ~e aesthetic considerations noted by the applicant
are outweighed, in our opinion, by the need to implement the safety,
health and weilfare of the residents of the Town as set forth in the
opening paragraphs of the Zoning Ordinance.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance would
not produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship~ the hardship
created is not unique and would be shar'ed by all properties alike in the
immediate vicinity of this property and in the same use district; a~d
the variance will change the c~aracter of the neighborhood, and will not
observe the spirit of the Ordinance.
~OUTH6LD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS -24- Octobez 19, 1978
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Tuthill
RESOLVED that Henry Luce, III, Fishers Island, New
DENIED permission to eliminate a swimming pool fence. Lo~
property: Fishers Island, New York, bounded on the north
Road; east by Simmons; south by Block Island Sound; westb~
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs: Gillispie, Gri
Tuthitl and Douglass.
A request from Meyer Rosenberg has been received r
it was
York, be
~ation of
by Private
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onis, Doyen,
lative to
Appeal No. 2379 asking that the Board rescind their motion of January
12, 1978, relative to constructing a dwelling with insufficient width
of lot.
On motion by Gillispie, Seconded by Mr. Grigonls, it was
RESOLVED that the Board of Appeals rescind their decision of
January 12, 1978, on appeal No. 2379 as requested by Meyer Rosenberg
in his letter to the Board of October 13, 1978. A copy of this motion
will be sent to the Planning Board.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs: Gillispie, Grigonis, Doyent
Tuthill and Douglass.
A letter was received from Stern, Gillies & Kurtzberg, 320
Conklin Street, Farmingdale, New York, relative to Appeal No. 2215,
Doris Carpenter. Mr. Gillies wanted to be sure there was no time limit
connected with the decision on this matter. The secretary was asked to
write to Mr. Gillies and advise him that there is no time limit.
On motion by Mr. Giltispie, seconded by Mr. Tuthill, it was
RESOLVED that there were six (6) Sign Renewals reviewed and
approved as submitted.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs: Gillispie, Grigonis, Doyen,
Tuthill and Douglass.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Douglass, it was
RESOLVED that the next meeting of the Southold Town Board of
Appeals will be held at 7:30 P.M. (E.S.T.), Thursday, November 9, 1978,
and set the f~lQwing t±mes on that date as time and place of hearing
upQn tke follOw±ng applications:
S~UT~6LD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS -25- October 19, 1978
7:30 P.M. (E.S.T.) Informal discussion with Andrew Wallin
relative to the establishment of a home occupation business and direct
mail business at his residence on Gull Pond Lane, Greenport, New York.
7:45 P.M. (E.S.T.) Upon application of North Fork Bank and Trust
Company, 245 Love Lane, Mattituck, New York, (Abigail A. Wickham, Esq.)
for a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article VII,
Section 100-71 and Bulk and Parking Schedule for permission to construct
an addition on the Southold office. Location of property: Main Road,
Southold, New York, bounded on the north by Main Road; east by Rudolph
Bruer; south by Grace R. Edson, Lewis Edson and Deborah D. Edson; west
by Grace R. Edson.
7:55 P.M. (E.S.T.) Upon application of Joseph Kubacki, Nokomis
Road, Southotd, New York, (Abigail A. Wickham, Esq.) for a variance in
accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-31 and
Bulk and Parking Schedule for permission to construct a house with in-
sufficient front yard setback. Location of property: Nokomis Road,
Southold, New York, bounded on the north by Nokomis Road; east by Stanley
a~nd Joyce Gar~n; south by Russel Freund; west by Antoine H. Van den
Heuvel.
8:10 P.M. (E.S.T.) Upon application of Evelyn C. Olsen, Main
Road~ Laurel, New York, for a variance in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinance, Article VI and Bulk and Parking Schedule for permission to
construct an addition to an existing building. Location of property:
Main Road~ Laurel, New York, bounded on the north by Main Road (State
Road 25); east by Sophie Kander; south by Katherine B. Tuthill; west
by H. Pollak.
8:25 P.M. (E.S.T.) Upon application of Richard Wall, 2715 Nassau
Point Road, Cutchogue, New York (William J. Jacobs, as Agent), for a
variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section i00-32 for per-
mission to construct an accessory building in the front yard area. Lo-
cation of property: Nassau Point Road, Cutchogue, New York, bounded on
the north by Felix R. Palmeri; east by Little Peconic Bay; south by
Bernard E. Goerler; west by Nassau Point Road.
8:35 P.M. (E.~S.T.) Upon application of Olympia Kouros, Main
Road, Mattituck, New York, for a variance to the Zoning Ordinance,
Article III, S~ction 100-31 and Bulk and Parking Schedule for permission
to divide propsrty into 3 lots with insufficient area and width. Loca-
tion of property: Bunny Lane and Kouros Road, New Suffolk, New York,
bounded on %he north by Kouros Road; east by Bunny Lane; south by Joseph
Arena; west by Salvadore Caridi.
8:50 P.M. (E.S.T.~ Upon application of Ernest E. Wilsberg and
Harold W. Wilsberg, Olejule Lane, Mattituck, New York, (Richard J. Cron,
Esq.) for a variance to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-31
and Bulk and Parking Schedule for permission to c~eate a lot with insuf-
ficient area. Location of property: Lot No. 6, Long Pond Estates,
Southold, New York.
S~UTHOLD TOWN BOARD OF APPEALS -26- October 19, 1978
The meeting was adjourned at 11:30 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
BABETTE C. CONROY
Secretary
PPROVED