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MEMBERS ~
Robert ',,v~,. Gillispie, Jr.~ Chairman
Robert Bergen
Charles Grigonis, .Jr.
Serge Doyen, .Jr.
James Maimone
Southold Town Board of Appeals
SOUTHOLD, L. I., N.Y. 119'71
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MINUTES
Southold Town Board of Appeals
March 2, 1978
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeals
was held at 7:30 P.M. (E.S.T.), Thursday, March 2, 1978, at
the Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York.
There were present: Messrs: Robert W. Gillispie, Jr.,
Chairman; Charles Grigonis, Jr.; Serge Doyen, Jr.; James Maimone.
Also present: Peter Campbell, Suffolk Weekly Times; Shirley
Bachrach, League of Women Voters.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2395 - 7:39 P.M. (E.S.T.)
upon application of Melania M. Leiblein, 2980 North Road, Greenport,
New York for a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance,
Article III, Section 100-31 and Bulk Schedule for permission to
set off lot with insufficient width and area. Location of prop-
erty: South side Route 25, Greenport, New York, bounded on the
north by Route 25; east by Gull Pond Lane; south by E. A. Schoetzan,
Lot 5 of Fordham Acres; west by A. Mazzaferro, Lot 3 of F~rdham
Acres.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a variance, legal notice of hearing, affidavits attesting to
its publication in the official newspapers, and disapproval from
the Building Inspector. The Chairman also read statement from
the Town Clerk that notification by certified mail had been ~ade
to: Dr. and Mrs. Warren Schoetzau; Sophie Mazzaferro. Fee paid
$15.00.
THE CHAIRMAN: The application is accompanied by a sketch
indicating that the applicant owns a lot 200' by 150' in depth
facing on the North Road at the southwest corner of the inter-
section of Gull Pond Lane and North Road. Is there anyone
present who wishes to speak for this application?
(There was no response.)
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Is there anyone here at all on this application? Does anyone
wish to speak against this application?
(There was no response, and the Chairman offered a resolution.)
CHARLES GRIGONIS: I talked to Sophie Mazzaferro who owns that
lot next to them and they have no objections.
THE CHAIRMAN: I think they're just creating lots that will be
exactly like the other lots in the subdivision. For some reason
George wants a survey and I think they probably should have a
survey. They'll have to have one anyway if they're going to divide
the lot.
After investigation and inspection, the Board finds%that the
applicant requests permission to set off lot with insufficient
width and area, south side Route 25, Greenport, New York. The
findings of the Board are that the applicant's lots will be ap-
proximately the same size as other lots in the subdivision.
The Board finds~-that strict application of the Ordinance
would produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of ~his property and
in the same use district; and the variance will not change the
character of the neighborhood, and will observe the spirit of
the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED, Melania Leiblein, 2980 North Road, Greenport, New
York, be GRANTED permission to set off lot with insufficient width
and area, south side Route 25, Greenport, New York, as applied for,
subject to the following condition:
The applicant shall furnish the Board with a survey
indicating the location of all b~ildings on the prop-
erty and the proposed division line.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Messrs: Gillispie, Grigonis, Doyen,
Maimone.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2393 - 7:45 P.M~ (E.S.T.)
upon application of Norman A. Reilly, Cedar Drive, Mattituck,
New York for a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance,
Article III, Section 100-31 and Bulk Schedule for permission to
set off lot of ~c~'~s~ ~L~~of ~6P~%~: · -~
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March 2, 1978
Joseph Carlton, N. A. Reilly, Jr., and A. Reilly & Sons, Inc.;
east by B. Caffery; south by Private Road; west by Theda Shula,
Harold Smith.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a variance, legal notice of hearing, affidavits attesting to
its publication in the official newspapers, and disapproval from
the Building Inspector. The Chairman also .read statement from
the Town Clerk that notification by certified mail had been made
to: Dr. J. Carlton; Harold J. Smith; Beryl Caffrey; Theda Shula;
Norman A. Reilly, Jr. FHe paid - $15.00.
THE CHAIRMAN: The application is accompanied by a survey
indicating that the plot consists of 43,560 sq. ft. It is not
rectangular, it's slightly odd shaped[ and the right-of-way is
a 20' right-of-way which seems to extehd in a southwesterly
direction from Cedar Drive and then makes an an lin turn to
the northwest. The first part before it turns, I'm not sure
what the distance is but after the turn it's about 326' through
the woods. Is there anyone here who wishes to speak for this
application? Does that describe that right-of-way?
NORMAN REILLY: Yes. I own that upper section of Lots 11
and 12. That's a road right now.
THE CHAIRMAN: Yes, that's where we must have gotten to,
right up here.
NORMAN REILLY: Yes and just continue a little further and then
we run along that line there.
THE CHAIRMAN: This should be 15' here and it should be cleared
for emergency vehicles with the top 6" of topsoil removed and re-
plaoed with bankrun. The road, when we went in there the other day,
considering the amount of snow you had, were pretty good.
NORMAN REILLY:
THE CHAIRMAN:
We clear if~ut right away.
Anyone else wish to speak for this application?
(There was no response.)
I think we've worked on a right-of-way here before, haven't we?
NORMAN REILLY: Yes, that was for my son. That came in from
Bayview Avenue along the woods.
THE CHAIRMAN: Anyone wish to speak against this application?
(There was no response.)
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After investigation and inspection, the Board finds that the
applicant requests permission to set off lot and approval of access,
Private Road, Mattituck, New York. The findings of the Board are
that<'the Board is in agreement with the reasoning of the applicant.
The Board finds that strict application of the O~dinance
would produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be%shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property and
an the same use district; and the variance will not change-the
character of the neighborhood, and will observe the spirit of
the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Maimone, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was~-
RESOLVED, Norman A. Reilly, Cedar Drive, Mattituck, New York,
be GRANTED permission to set off lot and approval of access,
Private Road, Mattituck, New Y~rk, as applied for, subject to
the following condition:
The right-of-way shall be cleared to a width of 15'.
The topsoil shall be removed from the surface of the
right-of-way to a depth of 6" and replaced with bank
run scarified into the surface.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Messrs: Gillispie, Grigonis, Doyen,
Maimone.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2392 - 7:55 P.M. (E.S.T.)
upon application of Timberland Associates, Inc., North Bayview
Road, Southold, New York for a varilance in accordance with the
Town Law, Section 280A for approval of access. Location of prop-
erty: Cedar Drive, Mattituck, New York; Lots 30, 31 of Mattituck
Development Cor., Inc.; Filed Map $776.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the tion
for a variance, legal n6tice of hearing, affidavits a' to
its publication in the official newspapers, and disapproval from
the Building Inspector. The~Chairman also read statement from the
Town Clerk that notification by certified mail had been made to:
Irene Matt Riedell; Mr. and Mrs. Deitenheimer; J. Oliver. Fee
paid $15.00.
THE CHAIRMAN: Does anyone present wish to speak for this
application?
~OHN BORN: I would. /It's true, I guess, the rea~®~ for
disapproval. It's dirt road and it's not wide enough, i~1 ~.hat
the reason?
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THE CHAIRMAN: I think there must have been approval down
this far.
JOHN BORN: There are other new homes, ~ot new but newer
homes.
THE CHAIRMAN: We got down just past it, I think. We turned
into this road here, this driveway.
JOHN BORN: The homes down there, I would say the one on the
end is fairly new, about 15 years old.
THE CH_AIRMAN: This is presently a vacant lot, right?
JOHN BORN: Yes.
THE CHAIRMAN: And you propose to sell it?
JOHN BORN: Yes, we do.
THE CHAIRMAN: The two lots together are 100' by 150' I
would say that all we have to do is formally grant access to
this lot. Undoubtedly, the ... as we went through it the roads
looked perfectly all right for that type of road.
JOHN BORN: Mr. Reilly keeps the area plowed.
THE CHAIRMAN: How far is this from where Reilly's place is?
JOHN BORN: On Cedar Drive, you would go out Cedar Drive and
go up another dirt road that goes off the side, I don't know the
name of it.
THE CHAIRMAN: What happens if something happens to Mr. Reilly?
We've got one down in East Marion that's pretty rough, Gardiner's
Bay Estates.
JOHN BORN: I would think that 'the homeowners down there would
want to get someone in.
THE CHAIRMAN: You don't have an association there?
JOHN BORN: I don't know if they have an association down
there at all. I don't know how they keep them up themselves now,
this is new to me. I just bought it last summer.
THE CHAIRMAN: A lot of places they assess you so much a year
for associat~on dues to take care of snow and so forth.
JOHN BORN: .I didn't read anything like that in the deed or
any other instrument that was forwarded to me.
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THE CHAIRMAN: Anyone else wish to speak for this application?
Anyone wish to speak against this application?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection, the Board finds that the
applicant requests approval of access for Lots 30 and 31 of
Mattituck Development Corp., Inc., Cedar Drive, Mattituck, New
York. The findings of the Board are that the applicant is
simply trying to assure his propective purchaser that there
Ks legal access to this property.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
would prOduce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property and
in the same use district; and the varianee will not change the
character of the neighborhood, and will observe the spirit of
the Ordinance
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
R~SOLVED, Timberland Associates, Inc., North Bayview Road,
Southold, New York, be GRkNTED approval of access to Lots 30 and
31 of Mattituck Development Corp., Inc., Filed Map $776, over
Cedar Drive off Bayview Avenue, Mattituck, New York.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Messrs: Gillispie, Grigonis, Doyen,
Maimone.
T~e next hearing on the agenda had originally been scheduled
for 8:05 P.M.; however, the hearing could not be held until 9:05 P.M.
due to a misprin~ in the official newspaper of the Town. During the
interim, Mrs. Bachrach from the League of Women Voters asked the
Chairman many questions concerning the functions and operation of
the Zoning Board of Appeals.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Doyen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals approve
minutes dated February 2, 1978, subject to correction.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Messrs: Gillispie, Grigonis, Doyen,
Maimone.
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On motion by Mr. Maimone, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals approve
minutes dated February 15, 1978.
Vote of the Board: A~es: Messrs: Gillispie, Grigonis, Doyen,
Maimone.
Eleven (11) Sign Renewals were reviewed and approved as
submitted.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2394 - 9:05 P.M. (E.S.T.)
upon application of Stanley and Barbara Rakowicz, Main Road,
Cutchogue, New York for a variance in accordance with the Zoning
O~dinance, Article III, Section 100-31 and Bulk Schedule for per-
mission to construct addition with insufficient side yard setback.
Location o~ property: North side Main Road, Cutchogue, New York,
bounded on the north by Sacred Heart Church; east by Sacred Heart
Church; south by Main Road; west by H. Sarnowski.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a variance, legal notice of hearing, affidavits attestinq to
its publication in the official newspapers, and disapproval ~rom
the Building Inspector. The Chairman also read statement from
the Town Clerk that notification by certified mail had been made
to: R. C. Ckurch of Sacred Heart; Mr. and Mrs. Henry Sarnowski.
Fee paid - $15.00.
THE C~AI ~RMAN: The application is accompanied by a sketch or
survey~by~!~ideh W. Young indicating that the proposed side yard
or that the side Yard Of this property is 17-1/2' and that the
proposed gazag~'wou~d use 16' of the side yard where it's contig-
uous house. The lot itself has only 69' frontage and there
is space on the westerly side to accommodate a garage.
The adjoins the property of the Roman Catholic Church,
Sacred He~ The depth of the property is 150' and it's in an
area where the tots are of similar or larger sizer some smaller,
varied sizes, not related to present zoning. Is there anyone
present who wishes to speak for this application?
GARY OLSEN, ESQ.: As you pointed out, the property in question
is a smaller Sized parcel by today's standards. The lot is 150'
deep and has'frontage on the Main Road of 69'. The parcel immediately
to the west is a residential house that has frontage of approximately
60' with the same depth. Across the street, as you know, is the
library, the Cutchogue Library, and the property to the east is the
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Sacred Heart School and Church. What the applicant seeks to do,
it's an older house, approximately 60 years old, and the only
place where a garage could be accommodated would be on the east
side. The side yard on the west is only about 7-1/2'. What the
applicants would like to do is construct a single-car garage on
the east side. Due to the fact that there is a small porch and
also a chimney, the variance is necessary.
There is a slight discrepancy in-the application which my
clients have just pointed out to me. Actually, the distance
between the eas~ side of the house and the property line, instead
of being 17-1/2' as shown on the sketch which was submitted with
the application, that's actually 19' What they would like to do
is build a garage 18' wide which would give them a little more room
to enter the entrance of the garage and have a side yard variance
of 1'. The applicants~ driveway presently run's from the Main Road
in a generally northerly direction on the east side of the property
and they park the car now right on the easterly side of the house
where the garage would be built. Immediately contiguous to the
applicants' property line is another driveway of the Sacred Heart
School, so the granting of the variance would really not change the
character of the neighborhood. We think it would be an asset and
it would certainly be, as far as. the applicants are concerned, a
_.practical difficulty~if the application was not granted. It would
enabl-e them to have additional storage space as well as enabling
them to put the car in a garage. In effect, we're really just en-
closing the car where it's actually parked at the present time.
THE CHAIRMAN: How long have the applicants lived there?
STANLEY RAKOWICZ: About 12 years now.
GARY OLSEN, ESQ.: I guess you purchased the property in 1966.
THE CHAIRMAN: And they never had a garage?
GARY 0LSEN, ESQ.: Never had a garage, no.
THE CHAIRMAN: One of the things I think concerns the Board
more than the proximity to the side line here, where you have a
contiguous driveway, is your manner of exiting ont~ the Main Road.
Wherever possible, we try to avoid having anybody back out onto a
highway, can you back around on your yard there?
STANLEY RAKOWICZ: We do at times and at times we also use
the driveway that is to the east of us to go towards the rear in
the back and turn around and exit heading out onto the Main Road.
THE CHAIRMAN: In other words, you use the Church's property
to turn your car around and drive out on the Main Road.
STANLEY RAKOWICZ: At times, yes.
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THE CHAIRMAN: I think the location of this garage is far
enough back so that it facilitates that procedure, in other words
it makes it easier.
STANLEY RAKOWICZ: This is one reason why we're not having
it up this close.
THE CHAIRMAN: Toward the Main Road.
STANLEY RAKOWICZ: Right.
THE CHAIRMAN: The fewer people that back out of driveways,
the ~onger we're all going to last. It's a little odd that you
have to go up to 1' from the edge, but you have a chimney and
porch there, is that correct?
etc.
STANLEY RAKOWICZ: That's correct, yes.
THE CHAIR~IAN: And you have to get the car past that.
STANLEY RAKOWICZ: And still have enough room to swing doors,
THE CHAIRMAN: So there's really no way around it unless you
have a separate garage in the rear.
STANLEY RAKOWICZ: Then we run into cesspools.
THE CHAIRMAN: How about, you've got a pretty big hedge there
too, don't you?
GARY OLSEN, ESQ.: There's a swimming pool to the north of the
house in the back yard and there's also, to the north of that, two
cesspools.
THE CHAIP/4AN: How about that hedge between you and Sacred
Heart, does that cover part of your garage?
STANLEY RAKOWICZ: The only hedge now is on the north side of
the property. There's no hedge coming down between us.
THE CHAIRMAN: There's no hedge between you and Sacred Heart?
STANLEY RAKOWICZ: There's a stockade fence there.
THE C~~: And that's on your property?
THE CHAIRMAN: And that runs eas= and west.
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STANLEY RAKOWICZ: No, that runs north and south.
GARY OLSEN, ESQ.: But your. garage would be to the west of the
fence, is that right?
THE CHAIRMAN: No.
GARY OLSEN, ESQ.: Is the-fence on the property line?
STANLEY RAKOWI~Z: Yes, it is. As a matter of fact, it comes
down as you get closer to the house, I'd say it actually comes in
a good 2'.
GARY OLSEN, ESQ.: Is the fence anywhere in the area where the
garage is going to go?
STANLEY RAKOWICZ: Yes, part of the fence is going to have to
be removed.
THE CHAIRMAN: That's what I was trying to find out.
STANLEY RAKOWICZ: Well, you mentioned something about a picket
fence.
THE CHAIRMAN: No, not a picket fence, I thought there was
a hedgerow.
STANLEY RAKOWICZ: There is a hedgerow but that runs east and
west on the northern-most part of the property.
THE CHAIRMAN: There's nothing but open space between you and
Sacred Heart.
STANLEY RAKOWICZ: There is a fence there.
THE CHAIRMAN: We missed it, I guess. How do you get over to
Sacred Heart property to turn around?
STANLEY RAKOWICZ: The driveways are side by side.
THE CHAIRMAN: So where's the fence, between your two driveways?
STANLEY RAKOWICZ: The fence is back further, north.
THE CHAIRMAN: OK, I've got it. Any other questions? Anyone
wish to speak against this application?
(There was no response.)
Did you talk this over with the people from-the Church?
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STANLEY RAKOWICZ: Yes, Father Henry had called us and we
explained it to him. He was more concerned with the fact of our
using his driveway as a right-of-way to get access to the garage.
We thought possibly it would be running in an easterly-westerly
direction. We told him-no, that it would be strictly north and
south on our property, nothing to do with any right-of-ways, and
that seemed to satisfy him.
THE CHAIRMAN: There's only one other thing that occurs to me,
is this a place where kids play?
STANLEY RAKOWICZ: There's a school next door.
THE CHAIRMAN: I should think you'd have to be awfully careful
about backing up there.
STANLEY RAKOWICZ: This is one time when we utilize what area
we have, our driveway and theirs, we don't go in the back when
they're playing in the playground.
THE CHAIRMAN: Any other questions?
(There was no response.)
GARY OLSEN, ESQ.: Just so we're clear for the record, the
application would be granted on the basis that the garage would
be 18' wide so that we would have a 1' side yard variance.
After investigation and inspection, the Board finds that the
applicants request permission to construct addition with insuffi-
cient side yard setback, north side Main Road, Cutchogue, New York.
The findings of the Board are that the Board is in agreement with
the reasoning of the applicant.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
would produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardsh~ip created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property and
in the same use district; and the variance will nQt change~the
character of the neighborhood, and will observe the spirit of
the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Doyen, seconded by Mr. Maimone, it was
RESOLVED, Stanley and Barbara Rakowicz, Main Road, Cutchogue,
New YOrk, be GRANTED permission to construct addition with insuffi-
cient side yard setback, north side Main Road, Cutchogue, New York,
as applied for, subject to the condition that the applicants make
every effort to avoid backing out onto the Main Road.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Messrs: Gillispie, Grigonis, Doyen,
Maimone.
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On motion by Mr. Maimone, seconded by Mr. Doyen, it was
RESOLVED that a special meeting of the Southold Town Boar~
of Appeals be held at 10:30 A.M. (E.$.T.), Friday, March 10,
1978, at the Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New Y~rk.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: - Messrs: Gillispie, Grigonis, Doyen,
Maimone.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Gillispie, it was
RESOLVED that the next meeting of the Southold Town Board of
Appeals be held at 7:30 P.M. (E.S.T.), Thursday, March 23, 1978,
at the Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:
Maimone.
Messrs: Gillispie, Grigonis, Doyen,
The meeting was adjourned at 9:30 P.M.
Re~ectf~lly ~bmitted,
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