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HomeMy WebLinkAboutTB-04/21/1987SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD APRIL 21, 1987 WORK SESSION Present: SupervisOr Francis'J. Murphy, Justice Raymond W. Edwards, Councilman Paul Stoutenburgh, Councilwoman Jean W. Cochran, .Councilman George L. Penny IV Town Clerk Judith T. Terry: Absetit: C0un¢ilman James A. S~:hond~)are, T~)w~ Attorney Robert W. Tasker. 9:00 A.M.- Board .audited outstanding vouchers. 9:25 'A.M.. & 10:10 A.M.- Recreation 'Supervisor Susan Fossett met with the Board to discuss her replacement; (she is 'leaving the area in'May). The Board has inter- viewed Recreation .Supervisor applicants from the Civil Service List, but have been unsuccessful in" finding a suitable candidate. The Board agreed to request a Rec- reation Superintendent I Civil SErvice' Lis~ and interview the candidates as soon as possible {see resolution no. 34 creating the position), 9:55 A.M. - Members of the Kenney's Beach Civic Assodation, Arlen'e Richter, President, Stanley Posess, appeared before the Board to request action to see that Kenney's Beach is'open for the 1987:,beach season. 10:00 a.M. - For Discussion Items:- (1'} Expiration of the terms of Conser_vation Advisory Council members On June 18,:;1987- Councilman Penny cannot agree to the reappointment of all of the members, therefore, in accordance with the~Board policy, the Town Clerk will advertise for resumes (see resolution no. 30)'. - (2) A BioCycle National Conference on Composting and Recycling to be held during the week of May 4th at Boston, Massachusetts. Board members are interested in' attend- ing (see resolution no. 27)'. May .Sth is :a proposed Town Board meeting date, there-~ fore the Board mill' schedule the first May meeting at 3:'00 P.M., Friday, May 1st. (3) Letter from Eric'Bressler, attorney for the MattitLick Park District concerning the park disl~rii:t p~operty on Pike Street, MattitUck, which the Town has been leasing for a parking field. The Park Distric~ is contemplating alternative methods of disposing of the property. Town. Board is 'only interested in: leasing. (4) Letter from H2M with respect_to a. problem~with.~_~he digester cover at the Scaver~ger Waste Plant--CourmJIman Penny advised the matter has been resolved. (5} Memorandum from the Town Clerk request changes in the Parking at Beaches Ordinance. _Referred to the Code Committee. ~ {6) Letter from Val Stype & Sons relativ~ to their polic~/ not to release insurance polic~/ information to a third party with a writt'en request and confirmation from the Town. Town Clerk to transmit requests, specifiC:ally thOse from .William Mullen who has been engaged by the Town to revieW the insurance cover- age. (7) Letter from the law firm representing the NYSALT members relative to Assembly Bill 6735 which proposes to amend the. State Finance Law, in.' relation to apportionment of revenue sharing aid: and to repeal certain provisions relating thereto. The Town Board adopted a resolution 'on April 7th uring the New York State Senate to adopt the New York Assembly proposed Federal RevenUe Sharing P~ogram. - (8)I Letter from the Board. of Directors. of the North Fork Animal Welfare ~eague relative to corrective measures at the Dog Pound. ' This :will be discussed witl~ that group at 2:00 P.M'; (9) Brochu~re-:from Connecti{:'Ut Tire Recycling outling their services.. 'Supervisor will request them to submit a proposed contract. {10)' Proposal to engage the services of. Smith, Finkelstein, 'Lundberg, Crimmi.ns & Yakaboski, Iof Spei:i~l Counsel to the Town Attorney whilel he is'ill (see resolution no. 28): (11) Memorandum from Accountant John Cushman requesting an increase in' per hour pay for part-time Clerk Typist in-the Accounting Department Ortrud Hanus. Referred to the Wage an~ Policy Com~itt'ee for review. {12) Request from Town Ci~rk to create ~he position of Stenog-rapher in her office-(see resolution no. ~29). 11:00 A.M. - Planner David-Emilita met with the Board to review:changes to the proposed Local Law to amend the Zoning Code. Before beginning the SEQRA proces~ the Board will review the ~uggested changes - new Marine I and Marine II Zones. 11:20 A.M. - William Heins, Orient, spoke briefly to the Board concerning the denial of hi.s appeal to build a new home next to his present home in Orient. (Councilman Penny stated he has drawn plans for Mr. Hein's house and if'there is to be any action by the Town Board he would abstains} Supervisor Murphy suggested that Mr. Heins have his attorney contact the Town Attorney to discuss the matter further, since the situation is out of the jurisdiction of the Town Board. 11:35 A.M. - Councilman Stoutenbu~§i!~S~_t~h~e~ Board for permission to draw plans for the construction of a boat ramp on ~th~i' Tbwn property, formerly Dietz,~ at Mattituck Inlet, and submit ~them to the DEC, which ~vill~probably be a lengthy procedure. Councilman Penny expressed opposition to the proposed boat ramp; Councilwoman Cochran said~she has misgivings about the project..; Councilnian Stoutenburgh requested that~--a, r_~solution (no. 31) be placed on the agenda support- ing the concept of this boat ramp and authorizi'ng him~ to proceed with the application process. 11:45 A.M. - Agenda resolutions were reviewed. 12:30 P.M. -IRecess for-~unch. 2.~05 P.M. - ~/ork Session reconvened and the Board met with members of the North Fork Animal Welfare League, Inc. to discuss the progress of the kennel construction at the Dog Pc~und. Frank Gifford, speaking on behalf of the Board of Directors, asked the Board to proceed to bring the construction to a conclusiont and name someone to. oversee the ~ roject. Councilman Penny stated that weather conditi0ns· have been' bad, the contracto ran into cesspool, electrical and plumbing problems ca~asing the loss of over a month during the winter,~. When they were ready tO. pour the concrete the late Winter and e~ rly spring rains started, and when they were t~naily, ready to proceed the Buildinc~ nsl~ector stopped the pouring because there was no gravel under the concrete. M.:mber of the League, Barbara Harrington~ said~ she is '~fed-up with the situation, an~l Dog Pound employees, Barbara Daly and Lori, 'spoke of what they consider to I: ,~ poor construction and the electrical problems Causing two dogs to be electrocuted. According to the contract between the Town and Rio[lard Saetta~ the contractor, tl ~e completion date is'June ~1987. 2:35 P.M. - A Recjul; 21, 1987 at t~ Murphy opene Present: Absent: SUPERVISOR, 'resolution app Moved by Cou RESOLVED th; Fund Whole T( the amount of Fishers Island District bills i amount of $5,~ Vote of the T¢ man Stoutenbu This resolutior SUPERVISOR April. 7th, :198~ Vork Session adjourned. REGULAR MEETING 7:30 P.M. rr Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held on Tuesday, April e Southoid Town Hall, Main' Road, Southold, New York. Supervisor d the meeting at 7:30 P.M. with thla Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. Supervisor Fi"ands J. Murphy :Ju~tic&_ Raymond W. Edwards Councilman Paul Stoutenburgh Councilwoman Jean W. Cochran Councilman George L. Penny IV Town Clerk Judith T. Terry Councilman James A. Schondebare [out of town) Town Attorney Robert W.i Tasker. (ill) IURPHY: Good evening. The~,.=first order of business I'd like a roving the audit 'of the bills of April 21st, 1987.. qcilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was the followin~ audited bill~ be and hereby are ordered paid~ General ~wn bills in the amount of $2'9, 485. 57; General Fund Part Town bills in $28,646.:99; Highway Depa~rtment bills in the amount of $26,682.'79; Ferry Dis[rict bills in'the amount of $14',:993,81; Fishers Island Sewer ~'the amount, of $385.98; Waterfront Revitalization I~rogram bills in' the I 0.'00. wn Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- TM rgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. was declared duly ADOPTED. IURPHY: Next is a resolution approving,the Town Board 'minute~ of APRIL 21, 1987 by CouncilWoman Cochran, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was RESOLVED that the minutes of the re~lular. Town Board meetinq held on April 7, :1987 be and hereby are approved. VOte of the Town,Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-' man $ toutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared 'duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, next is a resolution setting the next meeting date for May 1st, :1987, at 3:00 P.M., Southold Town Hall. This '-is-a change. There is a conference that most of the Town Board will' be attending on that following Tuesday, up in Boston, and Councilman Schondebare is not here, so we're going to have an afternoon meeting on a Friday. COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: And I would like to move this one. So moved. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Seconded by me. JUSTICE EDWARDS: By.' 'all. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Supervisor Murphy, it 'was RESOLVED that the next Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board will"be held at. 3:00 P.M., Friday; May 1, 1987, at the Southold Town Hall, Main'Road~ Southold, New York. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. I. REPORTS. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: The first item on the agenda is Reports. These Reports are ali on fiile i.n:'the Town Clerk's Office. 1. Town Justice Tedeschi - monthly report - March :1987. 2. Szepatowski Associates - monthly report - March 1987. 3. Supervis0rJs monthly budget report - March 1987. 4. Planning Board - monthly report - March 1987. 5. East,End Counseling Project- Annual Report - 1987. 6. Town Justice Price -monthly report - March :1987. 7. -Southold Town Dog pound - monthly report - March 1987, 8. East End Community Services, inc. - Audit Report for-1986. · 9. Town Justice Edwards - monthly report - March 1987. 10. Board of Appeals - monthly report - March :1987:. 11. Dimension Cable Services - complaint letters for March '1987:. 12. Police Department - monthly report - March 1987. 13. At this time I Would like to ask the Town Board members if there-is any- thing special t~iey have to report, starting on my right with George. COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: _Yes, I.alsQ attended the Landfill meeting with the DEC. Basically what we were trying to convince these people is that we 'have fairly good .material coming from septic 'tanks and that we want to dispose of this m~terial on our cover of our landfill; They seem to-think that way back in the 70'S there was COUNCILMAN PENNY: Thank you, Frank. On the 8th I attended a meeting of the Housing Committee, which the chairman will report on. On the 9th I attend a meet- ing of the Village. of Greenport--I'm trying to following the affordable housing and the efforts of the negotiations between the Village of Greenport and the Costello people. It was a very interesting meeting. On the 10th a meeting at the Landfill; We were visited by Bob Betcher and Paul Roth of the DEC. On the 13th m~--~-~'ting of the Water Advisory Committ'ee, and we're a little bit 'behind with our getting our' maps from the County, so we've got a map that's being prepared right now~ at North Fork Press so on the 30th when we have our next meeting we'll be able to have a map that' relates to our water contours and find out just where the good spots are. Ont he 14th a meeting of the Code Committee. We have a last minute law Which we've got to act on, 'which has been passed down to Us ~sometime last October, which for some reason hasn't appeared in our Town Hall, and it regards the, Flood Plain; The problem we have is'that we have a certain'deadline to get this adopted so that the Town and the Town residents qualify for Federal FlOod Insura;3ce. Li>~, I ~=~ ~.;; bnfortunate, but three individual packages of communication between now have r~;ver gotten anywhere in'th~ Town Hall, so that I find now in .talking to the DEC that we don't have to rush as badly as We thought, we have until 7/1 to adop~t something, so we're going to try to pick up on that. On the 15th w~ had a meeting of Commerce and Industry and we got into a healthydis~ussion of tl~e Master Plan.~ And this morning, being' the 21st, we had a meeting of the Police Committee. And that's all at this time.. Thank you. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, George. Paul? some bad material put in'there and until that problem is-cleared up they won't let us use this very fluid material that the past years have been collected 'from these honey wagons and put up in'the pond up there at the landfill~ Hopefully we'll ha~e ~that resolved and we can take this 'material-out and fill those in' and eliminate that real eyesore problem~ We had a Water Advisory Committ'ee meeting as George has spoken on, and hopefUlly~we'll get these maps worked out. We did' i~ave aeriai ,photos which are quite ni¢~ from the Suffolk County Planning Department and shows exactly where eyery road and house ~and woods are and from these we hope to on an overlay so that we ~an get some idea of where our possibly ater areas might be for preserving inthe future. I also sat in that sa~e meetinc~, whicl~Jim McMahon had written a letter to an one Who and ~e hac~ people there from th'~ Trustees~ the Baymen, t~e CA~ ~ ~ there. And some of the things they were trying to do is get one ~erson in~the be responsible for all the various shellfisl~ management p~ob had a whole list here, and I'!1 just run'through them. I think he ~ a poi should be one person we ~houlct lOOk to in'the Town and perha new~ Planner might take some of this ~on, but when you look at it 'it~ such a v~st ari~ay of material it's pretty hard for one person: water qualit~ in our transplant, seed clam programs~ spawner sanctuary, mussel culture, o enhancement program, stoc~ assessment, creek harv~ ~prove- ment plan, sanit~ition surveys, New York $'tal~e funding, limit on moorings in creek$~.~budget~ an~ things of this sort~. So th~e shoiuld f ~ person and they were trying to come up with some idea o how to go about thi§~ and what they're going to do was an~exploratory meeting~ and~.they're hoping to have another meeting where th.e.y'll have more people involved now that this one' m~eeting was started, and hopefully we'll ha~e more people out at the next meeting and w~e won't have a conflicl~, because we did h~¥e conflicts with other meetings ~t that time. I also attended the Southold Green. As you know, we have an area jus~ ~n the middle of our Town which we're h0pi~g to have a beautiful green~ and these people met and they are getting their act together. ~We had people in'who were ready to donate all kinds of plants. We ha~l other people in'who were going to do tree,work for gratis. We had somebody ~n who wants to take over the building--that old building, and move it off. ~e're working on that so that possibly w~'il get the a!rea ready for improvements. We ~irst ha~e to get that old building off. ~rhey halve set up a budget. It's a rather high budget 0~ $125,000. They realize this is the delUxemodel and they know that there~wili be other probably cut-backs, and maybe we can save a lot by doing a lot of the work by volunteers and p~ople donating time. But tl~at's basically what they're shooting for. The~y're talking about getting thel community involved and how about this~ and I thinI~ we'll see more of this as time goes on. That's about Frank. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you. Jean? COUNCILWOMAN COCHR^N: ! also attended the Green meeting, whicl~ Paul just reported on. Interesting enough following the Landfill meetin~ in attendance was a Dr. Epstein, and he's affilitated with the E & ^ Environmental Consulting ~irm located near the Boston~area~ and he came down and attended our meeting. But follOWing that we went to the Highway Department--Mr. MUrphy and I believe Paul you were there~ and he showed many slides and shared with us a great deal of information on composting. He's quite an expert on the subject of composting, and he has Studied the different systems from France, Japan, all over the world. I suggested to the Supervisor that we have him come back again' at.~a tim~ when the. ent~ire Town Board would be there, because I was very much impressed with him'. I thought that it 'would be benefi¢ia! to the Board if the entire Board heard what he had to say. Also, George me~ntioned that we did meet with Bracken and Carroll and Costello.in relation to the affordable housing project in Greenport. The Housin~ Committee had reviewed the plans of the homes and we had some concerns and 'questions and wanted some clarifications, so we did meet with them. As you're aware, l'm sure, we have no control over the type of homes that they build, but I felt that if'a positive meeting was set where we could just discuss what our conc'erns were, that perhaps some of them could be solved. Also at the invitation of Jim~ Margo, he's County Executive Assistant for~-Housing, Supervisor Murphy and Jim McMahon and myself traveled over to Connecticut on the 15th, to Middletown, Connecticut, to view an affordable housing project which the company is Trammeltrow Management Company, and they build affordal~le housing projects for as rentals. This one was designed specifically for--and I Won't use the word, Frank, for young couples with double incomes and no children. There is, at the present time, approximately 50 children in the project. It was beautifully done. They're interested in becoming involved on the Island. Part of the cost, what~ they look at, is the land cost, the taxes~ and the feasibility of doing it in a particular area. They had said that they felt that their minimum housing units Was around $150,000 mark, which we felt was high for our area, but I think it'~ worth investigating and getting some more information from them. In addition, then there was the holiday of Easter and that's ~t. Thank you, Frank. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, Jean. Ray? 0 APRIL 21, 1987 JUSTICE EDWARDS: Last weekend the DEC came over to the Island--excuse me, it was'a week ago. They came over on a Sunday. They were there Sunday afternoon, Monday and Tuesday. There's a lot of construction being, involved on the Island. The DEC was worried about the Wetlands, which they should be, and they're over policing the area and I think we're going to see quite a bit 'of them this spring and summer. Next we're looking forward t° t~e triP'ul~ {o Windom neX;[: Week t° Ioo1~ at a resource recovery 'plant up there which is'Usir~g i~:i'neration'for three or four towns in'the Windom, Connecticut area, and generating electricity through steam with this plant. Of course, Fishers Island has committed themself to incineration, and it's in the engineering process now. I'm looking forward to the meeting on Fishers Island a week from tl~is:F:riday I believe it 'is: with Mr. Murphy and ~Uffolk County ~are comin.c~,~ over to look into a water study of t~e Island, whicl~ ~ 'n~eded i. There's a lot of ~ development over there,' just as you have it here. We're luck~y that back i~ the earl~'.!~ 30's the people had enou~h'foresight 't° put in a centralized.w~ter system. We have ~"~ city water o~,er there, l~e've had it"for Over fifl~y years, 'but it s imp°rtanl~ to know how much water r~s0urces we have left~ If we c~n control development with the resources. Also on Sunday we had--wi~!re luckly on Fishers Island--we have a beautifUl Village Green. You have them :but they are scattered throughout the hamlets, but we have one on the Island and the merchants donated the eggs and there are three different areas that they set the.:eggs up for the different ages of the children, and it's quite a thing to see about 2'0'0 people and maybe 50 to '75 kids running around on the Village Green on Sunday morning, after Church, of course. The traffic'on Fishers Island this week w.as unbelievable.. I told the Town Board I came back on the noon fenny on Monday~-! drove over here. My pick-up truck is 'down at the Highway Depart- ment loaded up with material to take back for the Highway Departmen. t on Eishers Island, but I was number 22 in line at Monday noon and there were, another--must have been eight or ten cars behind me. Sunday both boats were loaded. Monday morning was full, and I would say we had close to 2,000 of the "tourists" that came ovet' for this weekend. It was quite hectic on the Island. And needless to say the activity on the Island brought me two court cases. Quite all winter, but there were a couple of infractions there during the weekend. And also Mr. Murphy told me that we're getting a used jeep on the Island this :summer for our "mosquito girls" that come over there and spray the ponds, and it's nice because they need a vehicl'e. There's been one donated in the past, but this jeep is 'going to be very well used and for a good purpose. With that, Frank, thank you. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you, Ray. The only other thing I Would like to add-~ as we all are aware, our Landfill is 'our biggest potential. We finally got the DEC: in ~ cooperation with the Town. Has agreed to a safe building for handling a STOP program. We could now hopefully have this program going on all year around where we're going to hopefully get matching funds to put the building up in the Landfill where chemical~ can be stored until it's practical to have them transported away. We've discussed this with the DEC for three or four years, I guess, and we're one of the first towns that made them aware of this and they've cooperated and it's not going to be a hazardous waste site when~we collect these anymore. The law has been changed and some good has come, and I think what it'show~ is 'that when you work with the State and County organizations some good can come of it.: It takes patience and it takes a lot of on-going talk, but results do come and I'm very happy to see this. i had a call this:afternoon from Harold Berger's office advising us to put in' the request for the matching funds on the building. We're going over to Islip'Town ..... to see their facH.tles next Monday on the recycling and right after that we hope to be able to go see a model of this building that BOCES 11 has built:. I1.' PUBLIC NOTICES. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Moving on to item I1 on Public'Notices. There's six of them. These are all posted on the Town Clerk's Bulletin: Board for anyone's information. 1. N.Y.S. Dept. of Envir6nmental Conservation, Notice to all shellfish harvesters in the Town of Southold, Emergency Designation of Shellfish Lands as Uncertified: All shellfish lands of Budds Pond and tributaries, including the entrance channel and the end of the pond. According, shallow inlet to Shelter Island Sound at the southwestern Conservation Law, the harv pursuant to Section 13-03'09 of the N.Y.S. Environmental eU lng of shellfish from the area described,is prohibited. 2. U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Notice of application of Paul Galgan, 4605 Stillwater Avenue, Cutchogue, for pieb assembly, Eugenes Creek (East Creek), Little Peconic Bay, Cutchogue. Comments by April 22, 1987. 3. U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Notice of application of the Suffol/k County .Department of Public Works to dredge with beach nourishment at Wickham Creek, a tribUtary of Cutchogue Harbor, Cutchogue. Comments by May 13, 1987. 4'; Notice of Public Hearing by Assemblyman John L. Behan and Assemblyman Joseph Sawicki, Jr. to solicit testimony from individuals and organizations in order to improve the performance of DEC and explore possible legislative initiatives--3 to 7 p.m., April 30, 1987, County Center Legislative Auditorium,, Riverhead.. 5. Suffolk County Office of Handicapped Services, May 27, :1987. Public'Hearing on Handicapped Accessibility for the Suffolk_County Transmit B~uses, 1:00. P.M-., Con- ference Room, Suffolk County Dept..of Labor, 455 Wheeler Rd., Hauppauge. 6. N.Y.S. o ervation, Notice of complete Application of Stirlinq Cove Condominiums, e the existing docking facilities by replacing floating docks, extending docks, installing Iow profile timber jetty with floating docks, Stirling Harbor, Greenport. Comments by May 8, 1987. Ill. COMMUNIC'ATION S. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: (1) Letter from the Department of Health Services, County of Suffolk, concerning a Comprehensive Water Resources Plan for Suffolk County, Volumes One and Two. They're extremely thick, that's why we didn't copy them for everybody, but there is a set for anyone interested to read and a gOOd part_of it is on the East End and it makes very interesting reading for the East End. IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS. (None) V. RESOLUTIONS. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Welll move.on to Item V, Resolutions. I'd like to remind the audience that the Town Board has a policy that anyone who wants to address the Town Board on any proposed resolution that's on your agenda, you may do so at this time. After the resolutions we will have a period of time where anyone in the audience can address the Town Board on any matter whatsoever. So at this time I'd like to ask you just limit 'your comments to any proposed resolutions before we vote on them tonight. Yes, ma'am. LISA MEYERHOFF: Mr. Supervisor, Members of the Board, my name is 'Lisa Meyerhoff and I am the new Public'Relations Representative for the Greenport-Southold Chamber of Commerce and i'd like to read into the record a letter to the members of the Board from the Greenport Directors. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Is this concerning a resolution? LISA MEYERHOFF: Yes, I've been apprised of that, yes. Plan map and proposed zoning. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: There's no resolution on tonight. Okay? You can make that after. LISA MEYERHOFF: Okay, thank you. This is regarding the Master It'was held. I'm sorry. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: It was delayed because we weren't prepared enough. You could do it right after, all right? LISA MEYERHOFF: Okay, thank you. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Anyone else like to address the Board? Yes. LYDIA TORTORA: Lydia Tortora here tonight on behalf of the Captain~ Kidd Civic Association. I am president of that association. And on behalf of the West Beach Civic Association. There is a resolution (no. 31) on for the Town Board to support concept of a boat ramp at Mattituck Inlet. The Mattituck Inlet Civic'Association is vehemently opposed to that boat ramp. We took a vote on this 'matter two years ago at an August meeting. The vote was unanimous. I can submit records of that units minutes to you. I am more disturbed that I was notified of this by accident. That- our civi!c'association wasn't apprised of this, as was anyone in the community, for the Town should even consider pursuing this matter without being apprised of it. The fisl~Armen are not here tonight. They had not had an opportunity to have input into this: It is-a navigational hazard. You are talking about launching boats into the channel in'the summertime, into a narrow channel that is heavily trafficed. When you have summer boats in' there you are now going to launch right into this: The proposed site is right adjacent to Mattituck's only public'beach on Long Island Sound.. I would be a little concerned about a potential pollution problem here. You are talking about ripping up, paving over dunes 'that Larry Penny, who is a noted environmentalist, made a b'eautiful report on in'1981 documenting the many resources of those-c~unes, which include Beachplum and Terns, and destroying them. I have those records. That property also belongs to the people of Mattituck who pay the taxes on that property. That is Mattituck Park District property. If anything is going to be done with it, shouldn't the MattitUck residents have something to say about it? I don'~t think that the Town Board has the authority to simply take property which belongs to residents of Mattituck and decide what to do with it. Not even with consulting the M~ttituck residents? We pay the taxes on that property. We talking about monitoring an activity such as this: There's a concession stand that is on that beach which is full of shotgun holes, because Danny Winters cannot sit down there 24 hours a day and monitor it 'and he shouldn't have to. It is an out of the way site. Are we going to add extra additional police to monitor this, or are going to have to pay a constable with-taxpayers dollars7 Who's going to pay_ the liability? Increased noise. Increased 82 APRIL 21, 1987 traffic: Increased pollution and destruction of dune liCe for a public launching ramp that we the taxpayers will pay for. I don't think so. We more than anything want this Town Board to be apprised that the residents are very concerned tha~ they were not even notified of this; Thank you. COUNCIl_MAN STOUTENBURGH: Lydia, would you want-any response to your comments~- LYDIA TORTORA: Sure. COUNCILMAN STOUTEINBURGH: I was the one that put this, and for four years now-- three years--I've been trying to get a access to the Sound for the residenCs of Southoid Town. LYDIA TORTORA: Paul, th'ere are six launching ramps in'Mattituck Inlet, and ther one ~.hat's only three hundred feet down. COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: There is no access that the people can use that I feel is worthy of a ramp. I know there's one at th9 end of the inlet.which is'Mattituck Fark District, which has a.chain .acrOss it, which you must be a' member o~ Mattituck Park to use. We had the Army Corps of Engineers, right from New York City, down before we even suggested doing this; and we got their'blessings that this'was all right. As a matter of fact we had to have it to go through the Breakwater there. And we had those people down. They s,teod right there and they said'we ~ouid do this~ What we intended to do is to go ahead and not take over your property, as you sa~ we are. What we would surely do is'ask if'we could utilize any of this area if ~posslble. .If not there is a road that is'equallywide ~nd Ray Jacobs 'maintains this; that iy~u could cut half of that road out and you could fence that off as an area that, you could use for boat launching so you would not have to use your sacred land :of parks and dunes and Tern nesting colonies and ~,hat have you. I know Larry Penny, by the way, and there is no Terns in that area there.whatsoeVer. He's refe~'r~ing to the oppos~teLside of the inlet and there weCe Terns there, so there are none on the other si~Je. There are Beachplums; what you say, yes, the~e are. And I don't see that there's too much difference,-between the establishment of Pedersons right down the way which has--if you saw the boats he's starting to rack up there--launching boats and taking boats out there which is 'much narrower then where we're talking about--we're tall~ing in the shallow area, off to the west side. We're not talking to put it 'way out into the middle, or anything of that sort, and we might just add one last thing--that all we'r doing is putting in a permitj which takes over a year to do. During that time we. would have ample time for hearings and what have you. But knowing the length of time and what goes on as far as getting permits, it 'was my idea to try to see just if: it was feasible to get thrOugh the bureaucracy, and it was suggested by Ray J,acobs - that ! go ahead before the ~own Board and get their permission because h~ knew there would be objections from some people,on the Town Board. And we said; y~es,~-we Would do that, and we did'do this~ We discussed it 'and what we're trying to doLi's'to see if' it's feasible to do. And that's what we're trying to do. Now I do think that the People of this Town have the right to get access to the Sound and if'you can show me a better place where it's as easy to get to and the Town owns it, I would be much, much happier to use that then anything that we have to start all new in~ LYDIA TORTORA: There is 'Town access. COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Where is'that? LYDIA TORTORA: At Pedersons. There are five launching ramps for puolic access in'Mattituck Creek. COUNCILMAN' STOUTENBURGH: With no charge? LYDIA TORTOR'A: in other words you're saying that someone who owns a boat .can't spend five dollars to launch it, that we the taxpayers should pay for that? COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: i'm saying what? COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Why can I go to New Suffolk and I don't have to pay that? Why can I go to any of our other Town ramps and not have to pay that? That's what I'm saying. . SUPERVISOR MURPHY: LYDIA TORTORA: No. Lydia, do you have any ,other comments? LYDIA TORTORA: If'there were no launching ramps, Paul, I wouldn't be argu!.ng. There are. I am a boat owner. I am no~ opposed tu paying five or seven dollars to launch a boat at Pedersons or anyplace else. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay. Anyone els~'like to address the Town Board on any of the proposed resolutions? Sir. CHARLES SIDOROWll'Z: Representing the Mattitt~ck Fishermen's Association. I have a few questions concerning this 'particular resolution of Paul. Is this going to be for Public use from Southold Town residents? COUNC!LMAN STOUTENBURGH: That was our idea. Southold Town residents. CHARLES SIDOROWITZ: That's all. COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH.' That's a!! we had intended. That's all we had intended. CHARLES SIDOROWITZ: But what will'happen---are any Federal funds going to be used for this? COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Not that I know of. If'there would then there would probably be that and that would be a decision the Board would want to have to make. I Would hope we wouldn't go that route because every one of our own Town ramps now, including the one whi'~ct~ we're looking at at East Marion, is four ToWn residents Only, and we do not want--if we can he~p it~-to have anyth!ng but that. CHARLES SIDOROWITZ: But it'~ still'possible that you would .... COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Everything is possible. I might ncJt be here. These other Board members might not be here and someone else might change. CHARLES SIDOROWITZ: In that situation then anybody could use that ramp, not only Sout hold Town. COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: We do have one ramp in Gull Pond--I don't know if you're familia~ with that ramp. It was put in by the State. The moneys came from the State and that is open to everyone in the State. Yes, that is the one ramp in the Town that is open to everyone. CHARLES SIDOROWITZ: That that's the stipulation the State makes. COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Absolutely. They put the money up for it and there- fore everyone--and I don't think there's too many people there really. CHARLES SIDOROWITZ: So if'we had to use State funds it 'would be open to anyone. COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: If we use State funds, right, you're right-there. Just as if you use Federal funds to do a channel there has to be access to that also. CHARLES SIDOROWITZ.. Insurance. Would the Town be liable? COUNCILMAN STOUTENBUR.GH: As they are on every one of their ramps in the Town, they would be liable. CHARLES 'SIDOROWITZ: And as a concerned fisherman, the channel access at that particular point, when commercia[ fishermen go in and out---I go out three or four o'clock in the morning. COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I know-'you do. CHARLES SfDOROWITZ: And it makes things harder on me, especially if'l'm going to be liable. If i were to hit 'a person or a boat like the accident that happened in Mattituck, where a lot of these boats Wouldn't have running lights and it 'would be a hardship on me I feel. Those are some of the things I would like to say about this; If there's going t~) be public meetings, on it--- COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: There surely will be. CHARLES SIDOROWITZ: We would li'ke to be informed. We were just informed tonight. That's why I just came down here. If there's going to be public meetings on it I'm sure a lot of---- COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: If you know anything about the DEC, you don't get a permit--or the Army Corps--it takes literally years to get these things, and by the time we have them drawn up and what have you there will be-enough drums rattling and what have you to have many a hearing I,.m sure. CHAR-LES SIDOROWITZ: It's my understanding there was going- to be a vote on it tonight. _ - - APR L 21, 1987 COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: No, the vote was merely to put in an application. That's all. Things do get turned around to get you riled up perhaps. CHARLES SIDOROWITZ: Okay, well any way the Mattituck Fishermen.~s ASsoci~ation, which is 15 or 20 residents of Mattituck, are opposed to this resolution any Way. COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: There's somewhat of a conflict, because I think the Baymen's Association would want it. So you have to think of both sides of these things~ SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Might t ask you why are you opposed to it? CHARLES SIDOROWITZ: Well, because of the traffic it'S going to create. Like I sa at three or four o'clock in the morning if'there aren't any lights and a lot of these ~ boats don't have lights, and we would have to come out. at that time on ou~r way out to go fishing--- SUPERVISOR MURPHY: If the ramp was closed at three or four o'clock in the morning would that be a problem? CHARLES SIDOROWITZ: If it was closed? How are you going to propose to close it? You have no plans.._We haven't seen any plans; Then again, who's going to supervise this? Supervise the ramp? SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Is that your main concern, about the safety of boats going in and out, hitting somebody at three in' the morning? CHARLES SIDOROWITZ: Sure. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay. Any other concerns?-..- CHARLES SIDOROWITZ: Well, I can run around. The channel is'limited. depth of water. Some of our boats draw six or seven feet of water. It's the COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Not off that jetty there isn't seven feet of water. You Walk right along side of it at Iow tide. CHARLES SIDOROWITZ; That's what I'm saying. We have certain points where we can come in that are real Iow water at a moon tide--new moon, full moon. We can only follow a certain path in, and if there are boats,, just laying around or iust waiting to be hauled out, we have to stop. Boats don't have brakes. Big boats. COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I have a 27 foot boat. I know that. CHARLES SIDOROWITZ: We have 50 - 60 foot boats, and you just can't put brakes on them. You can't turn around or you might run aground. So then what happens then ? COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: One last thing, and I think we should go on. One of our big problems also is rescue. I know we have a Coast Guard there, but we also have a Bay Constable who likes to get into the water and would like to get--what he does now, he goes down the end of the Creek, opens a lock, puts his boat in th.ere,- comes all the way out to get into the mouth of the Sound. This would be an excellent place for saving perhaps someone's life. And so this is another reason we~d like to have an access to that area. CHARLES SIDOROWITZ: I'm sure the Town has a four-wheel drive vehicle. COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGI~t: What do you mean by that? CHARLES SIDOROWITZ: A four-wheel drive vehicle can back right down the_beach ~ and put a boat in'the water. ~- COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: On the Sound? You're a fisherman, you know_ better then that. CHARLES SII3OROWITZ: I have a four-wheel drive. COUNCII.~vlAN STOUTENBURGH: With the surf coming in and one man's going to do that? Come on. CHARLES SIDOROWITZ: to put this ramp. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: CHARLES SIDOROWITZ: I'm certain he can put it right in where you're proposing Okay, any other comments? Titan k you. -' APRIL 21, 1987 85 SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Anyone else have any comments on the resolution? JOHN EPIDY: John Epidy, Ruth Road, Captain Kidd Estates. I would like to ask has there been an input by the people of Southold for this and if 'so did' they have any petitions or have you got letters supporting your standing on wanting ~o get a ramp in the water in Mattituck at the Breakwater? I mean, what is supporting this? Is there an input by the people? Do the people want it,' and if 'so have they writt'en a petition? COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: No. JOHN EPIDY: Well, who are they? Who's behind all of this? COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Our_~3aymen. JOHN EPIDY: Well', I mean, names. Have they supported this? I don't see anyone-- is anyone in favor of it here? ' COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: There's no reason---we're not arguing the point. JOHN EPIDY: .'1 don't know where it came from is what I'm trying to say. Generally speaking when people want something we listen to the people. The people want this, and it's the democratic way of doing something. Now if 'it'S an individual, then he should go to the people and ask for their support. Now I don't know who's brought this up on the Board--- COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: Ibrought it 'up. JOHN EPIDY: Right. Who are you being supported by and why aren't they here? Normally when we have to do something up there we have to make a petition to get going, but I see that everyone up there seems to be against it,' and I don't see anyone for it, other than maybe yourself. COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: If'I'm the only one then it 'wouldn't be done. JOHN EPIDY: Certainly it wouldn't be the Mattituck people, because they have a permit to get inl from the dock, right? So it must be the people from Southold, and if'so, where are they? Tl~i~ is 'the point. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Do you have any other comments? - JOHN EPID'Y: Yes, I think that the people up there should know exactly what's going on all the time, because we're the ones that are going to suffer with it. That traffic is going to be coming in and out of there. They're going to need parking facilities, and the during the summer months is 'going to be on our shoulders. I just wanted to let the Board know that I'm entirely against this situation. Thank you very much. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Anyone else like to comment on a proposed resolution? (No response.) If not I'1| move on to Resolution No. 1. 1. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby, authorizes the Adult Advisory Committee (to the youth) to install one (1) soda machine and two (2) pinball machines in the $outhold Senior/Youth Center, Peconic, and the Adult Advisory Committe~ shall assume all responsibility for the maintenance and care of the machines. 1.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Justice Edwards,'i~Supe~.i. sor Murphy. ~1~o: Coundlman Stoutenburgh. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 2 is to authorize' the Town Clerk to advertise a public auction. 2.. Moved by- Councilman Penny, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the _Town Clerk to place a notice in The Suffolk Times and The Lone) Island Traveler- Watchman on May 7, 1987 and May 14, 1987, advertising that the Southold Town Police Department will hold a public'auction of unclaimed property, beginning at 10:00 A.M., Saturday, May 23, 1987, at the Southold Town Police Headquarters, Main Road, Peconii:, New ~ork; viewing: Friday, May 22, 1987, 8:30 A.M. to 3:30 P.M. 2.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ~ADOPTED. SUPEI~VISOR MURPHY; Number 3 is to authorize a trailer permit renewal,' 6 APRIL 21, 1987 3. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was RESOLVED that the a~oplication of Jacqueline B. Moeller for renewal of a single family. house trailer permit, for trailer located on the north side of Route 48, on the stable and riding school property, Southold, New York, which permit expired on April' 9, 1987, be and hereby is granted for a six (6) month period. 3.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Stoutenburgh, Just ce Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This'resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 4 is to authorize an amendment to the agreement between St. Agnes Church and the Town on the use for our Nutrition Program fo~ thei r'Hall. . ~ 4. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of $outhold hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor FranciS'J. Murpl~y to execute an amendment to the agreement betw~.een St. Agnes Church and the Town of Southold for the use of St. Agnes Hall for l~he Nutrition Procjram and Senior Day Care C:enter Proc~ram, to provide for the deletion of Item 3, and the insertion of the following Item 3: 3. The Church hereby ~jrants the Town the exclusive use of the Parish Hall twenty-four (24) hours a day, seven (7) days a week, Holidays included, for the remainder of this Agreement which ends on October 31, 1987. 4.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, CouncilWoman Cochran, Council- man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy, This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 5 is to authorize' Andrew Stype to conduct an appraisal for farmland property. 5. Moved by Councilman S'toutenburgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board- of the Town of Southold hereby engages the services of Andrew Stype to conduct an appraisal of the farmland of Mrs. Orville Terry, Orient, to determine the market value of the development rights being offered to the Town; said appraisal cost shall not exceed $1,200.00. 5.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-' man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.. n~u SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 6 is to authorize' an advance on the Local Water~ro Revitalization Program. 6. Moved by CouncilWoman Cochran, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the advance of $15,000.00 from the General Fund Whole Town Account to the Local Waterfront Re~Litalization Program; said'funds to be reimbursed upon receipt of the grant funds. 6.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 7 is 'to authorize' and enter into 'an agreement with our Housing Program for Year Xlll [1987). _ 7. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Penny, it 'was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor Francis J. Murphy to execute an agreement between the North Fork Housing Alliance, Inc. and the Town of Southold whereby the North Fork Housing Alliance, Inc. will administer the Southold Town Community Development Housin9 Program for Year XIII (1987). 7.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Stoutenburgh, Justice'-Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 8 is to request the New York State DOT to conduct a traffic survey. - e Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Penny, it :was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby requests the New York State Department of Transportation to conduct a speed survey for the following ,area of Southold: from the easterly, right-of-way line of Hortons Lane at its' [ntersection with COUnty Route 48, northerly to Long Island Sound, easterly along the shoreline of Long Island Sound to the terminus of Soundview Avenue (west of the Southold Town Beach), at its intersection with County Route 48, and westerly along Route 48 to Hortons' Land. '- - 8.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Cotincilman Penny, CouncilWoman Cochran, Councii~ man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy; This resolution was declared~duly ADOPTED. APRIL 21, 1987 SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 9 is a transfer of funds. 87 9. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the transfer of funds from the General: Fund - Part Town Account to the Park .and Playground Trust Account to correct transactions processed for payment received September 6, 1985 for Richard J. Cron Major Subdivision - Amount of $5,'350.00, plus interest of $446.80 (total S5,796.80) to be charged to 139'09- Fund Balance (Unappropriated). 9.-Vote of the Town 13oard: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman COchran, Council- man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 10 is:to execute an agreement with the County on our 86 Housing Preservation Grant. 10. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor Francis J.' Murphy to execute an agreement between the County of Suffolk and Town of Southold for participation in the 1986 Housinq Preservation Grant, as a participating Consortium municipality, for the rehabilitation of single family residential property owned by Iow and moderate in~:ome persons in designatec~ rural areas. 10.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 11 is a trailer permit renewal for th'e First Baptist Church of Cutchogue. 11. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Penny, it 'was RESOLVED that the application of the First Baptist Church of Cutchogue for renewal of a single family house trailer permit, for trailer located on the north side of Middle Road, Cutchogue, New York, which permit 'expired on April 14, '1987, be and hereby is ~ranted for a six' (6) month period. 11.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 12 is to authorize the payment on an agreement with the Long Island Regional Planning Board and NYSERDA for funding to investigate the potential benefits and uses for the residue produced by waste to energy facilities. I have a sample in my car if 'anyone wants to see it. COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: I'd like to see it.' So moved. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: ;This is our share of a grant that thetCounty is worl~ing on. The 13 towns in Nassau and Suffolk County have agreed upon to fund to look for alternate uses of ash, rather than the terrible expense of trying to find a satisfactory landfill in somebody elses back yard. Hopefully this'will work out to everybody's advantage, and this $2,000 is our share. The Town of 13rookhaven is probably spend- ing $50,000. 12. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it 'was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Supervisor Francis J. Murphy to execute an agreement between Long Island Regional Planning Board and the Town of Southold whereby the Town will pay to the Lon~ Island Regional I~lanning Board the matching sum of $2,023.00 for our participation in the application to the New York StateEnergy Research and Develop- ment Agency (NYSERDA) for funding of a project to investigate potential beneficial uses for the residue produced by waste to energy facilities. 12.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, CounCilwoman Cochran, Council- man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: And number 13 is'to proclaim Volunteer Recognition Week in the Town of Southold. 13. Moved by Councilman Stoutenbur§h, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby declares April 26, .through May 2, 1987 as VOLUNTEER RECOGNITION WEEK in the Town of Southold, in .recognition of the unselfish and dedicated work performed by the many voluntary groups and individuals throughout the Town, and be it further RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby recognizes and pays tribute to the Voluntary Action Center, the Suffolk County funded agency for the referral of volunteers to non-profit agencies, and who works daily with volunteers throughout Suffolk County. 13.-Vote.of the Town Board:: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoma.n Cochran, Counci-l- man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Super~)isor Murphy. This resolution was declared di~ly ADOPTED. APRIL 21, 1987 SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 14is to accept a bid. 14. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it 'was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the bid'of -Paul Corazzini' &' Sons Inc., in the amount of '$31.50 per ton, for supplying 1,000 ton%, more or less as may be needed, of Sand I~lix Asphalt with 5% AC20 - 3% mineral filler {o be used, furnisi~ed and placed at the discretion of the Superintendent of Highways, all in accordance with the bid'specifli:ations. 14.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-: man Stoutenburgh, JUstice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy; This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: And number 15 is~to accept anotl~er bid~ ~ 15. Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts ,the bid' of R. O. Welch Asphalt Corp., in'the amount of $1.18 per gallon, for furnishing an, I applying 150,000 gallons, more or less as may be needed, of Grades-RC-2 and MC-7 Asphalt Road Materials, all in' accordance with the Specifications of the Superintendent of Highways. 15.-.Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-' man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Town Clerk's Office. TOWN CLERK -I~ERRY: SUPERVISOR MURPHY: And number 16 is to appoint a summer Clerk Typist in'the Can I do that one? Sure. We'll all second it,' too; I Offer that resolution. 16. Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Councilman Penny, it-was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Jocelyn A. McLean as a Summer Clerk Typist in'the Office of the Town Clerk, effective July 1, .'1987, 35 hours per week, at a salary of $6.00 per hour. 16.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. TOWN CLERK TERRY: Thank you. 17. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: And number 17 is to grant a Special License to hold a benefit dance on July 17th. Moved by Couo~cilwoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Penny, it 'was RESOLVED that in accordance with Section 100-114(c) of the Code of the Tow~n of Southold, the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants DEVAAKA. Realty Corporation, Int. a Special License to hold a benefit dance for the Friends of Sacral Heart School, under a tent, on the Tolendal Inn property, 12250 Main Road, Mattituck, from 8:00 P.M. to 1:00' A.M., Friday, July 17, '1987, provided they secur~ and main- tain the proper insurance to hold the Town of Southold harmless. 17.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Coundl- man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: And number !8 is to hold another affair; 18. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it 'was RESOLVED that in accordance with Section 100-114(c) of the Code of the Town of Southold, the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants DEVAAKA Realty Corporation, Inc. a Specia! License to hold a fund raiser-, for the Bummy Hudson Open Scholarship Fund, under a tent, on the -Eolendal Inn property, i1-250 Main Road, Mattituck, on the evenin~l of Monday, June I5, 1987, provided they secure and maintain the proper insurance to hold the Town of Southold harmless. 18.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Coundilwoman Cochran, Council- man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number .19 is to accept a bond estimate. 19. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it 'was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the bond estimate~.of $200,000.00 for roads-and improvements in the major subdivisio~ known ~-~ as "Paradise-by-the-Bay" located at Southold, all in accordar~ce with tl~e recommenda- i~ion of the So~thold Town Planning Board, Superintendent of H.ighways JacObS, and Engineer Lawrence Tuthill; and be it further 89 APRIL 21, 1987 RESOLVED that the Town Board h~i'~'~';i~'~:~"~'es the passbook of William F. LaMorte, in the amount of $106,000. 00 to the Southold Savings Bank for transfer to Mohrin~g ,E. nterprises, Inc. and updating to $200,000.00; and be it fu'rhter RESOLVED that the Town Board hereby directs that an additional inspection fee of $5,760.00 be paid to the Town, which sum represents the differential between the $106,000.00' bond and the $200,000.00 bond. 19.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwartds, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution ~vaS d~clared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: And number 20 is to authorize the appraisal of a subdivision. 20. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby engages the services of Lewis'Edson for the purpose of conducting an appraisal of the subdivision of P. apadopoulos and Marac~os, located on the east side of Kenney's Road, Southold, so the- Town Board may determine the amount of money to be deposited with the Town in lieu of land for park and playground purposes, all in accordance with Section A106-38 E. (3) of the Code of the ~-0wr~ of Southold, Subdivision of Land. 20.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Stoutenburgh, JUstice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This 'resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: 'And number 21 is to authorize a refund of $147.67 to John Epidy on an overpayment on a Building Department fee. I offer that resolution. 21. Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Councilman Stoutenburgh, it wes RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the issuance of a refund in the amount of $147.67 to John Epidy, which amount represents overpayment of a Building Department fee due to an error in calculation. 21 .-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilwoman Cochran, Councilman Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. Abstain: Councilman Penny. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 22 is_'to accept a resignation. 22. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by the Entire Town Board, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts, with great ~.ecjret, the resignation of Susan C. Steinmetz-~Fossett, Recreation 'Supervisor, effective May 7, 1987. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: And with thanks for doing a job_very well done. [With regret:) 22.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, CouncilWoman Cochran, Council- man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 23 we're going to hold (lead agency in the matter of the proposed "Local Law to amend the Southold Town Zoning Code and Zoning Map...") There's still'a litt'le more work to be done. Number 24 is to execute plans and specs. 24. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, WHEREAS, the Town of Southold has requested the County of Suffolk to dredge a navigation channel at New Suffolk Boat Ramp, Town of Southold; and WHEREAS, the County of Suffolk proposes to do said' dredging at New Suffolk Boat Ramp, in. the Town of Southold, at a nominal cost to the Town of Southold; and WHEREAS, in order to accomplish said'dredging, plans, specifications, agreements and other documents must be executed on behalf of the Town of Southold; and WHEREAS, this approval shall remain' in effect for the period of the requi, red permits (Expiration date: October, 1'996); now, therefore, be it' RESOLVED that--the Supervisor be and he hereby is authorized to execute, 0n behalf of the Town of Southold, all necessary plans and specifications, spoil area agreements, assurances.to the County of Suffolk, license and/or dreding permit applications to Federal and State Agencies and all other documents that may be required to accomplish said dredging work. 24.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 25 is to accept a resignation of another young lady working in Judy's office, who has done an excellent job. 25. Moved by Justice Edwards, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town-of Southold hereby accepts, with reqret, the resi~lnation of Maria:Checklick, Clerk Typist in the Office of the Town Clerk, effective April 17, 1987. - 0 APRIL 21, 1987 25.-Vote Of the Town Board :. Ayes: Councilman Penny, Counc~ilwoman Cochran, Council- man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 26 is 'to authorize' the advertisement for resumes for a part-time Bay Constable. 26. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it 'was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to advertise for resumes for a part~time Bay Constable for the 1987 Summer Season to patrol Peconlc Bay, 20 hours per week, $7.50 per,hour, employee to supply own boat and engine, Town will' provide up to $250~00 for gas and repairs. ' ~ 26.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes; Coundlman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number :27 is to authorize' the attendance at-a conference. 27. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of. the Town of Southold hereby 'authorizes the Town Board members and Superintendent of Highways Jacobs to attend the BioCycle National Conference on Composting and Recycling on May 4, 5, 6, I987, at Boston, Massachusetts, and the actual expenses for mileage, meals, lodging and registration shall be a legal charge against the Town of Southold. 27.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: - Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Co'chran, Council-' man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This :resolution was declared duly ADOPTED.. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 28 is to authorize spe-cia[ Counsel. 28, Moved by Justice Edwards, seCOnded by Councilman Penny, it 'was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby en~ages the services of Smith, Finkelstein, Lundberg, CrimminS & Yakaboski, of Special Counsel.to the Town Attorney, for a period of sixty (60) days, at.$125.00 per hour, and,be it further RESOLVED that the followin~t offici'als be and hereby are authorize~t to contact said ~ Special Counsel for advice-. Supervisor, Councilmen, Town Clerk, Superir~tendent of I~:i!~- H ghways, Town Justices, Receiver of Taxes, Chief of Police, Town Trustees';.;.,~:oardLj of Assessors, Executive Administrator of: the Building Department, Board of'~,~'~als, Planning Board, Farmland Committee, Community Development Administrator. 28.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR-M1JRPHY: Number 29 is to authorize the creation of the position of Stenographer in the Office of the Town Clerk, at a starting salary of $16,8881.32, Step I. I offer that. 29. Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby creates the position of Stenographer in the Office of the Town Clerk, and hereby sets the starting salary at $16,881.32 per annum (Step I, January, 1987), and be it'further RESOLVED that the Supervisor be and he hereby is authorized to call for the Suffolk County Department of Civil Service Certification of Elig[lsl~s for this position. 29.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-' man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 30 is to adverti'se for resumes for members of the Conservation Advisory Council. I Offer that resolution. 30. Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the,-Town of Southold he~-eby authorizes and directs the Town Clerk to.advertise for resumes for members' of the Conservation Advisory Council; 2 year term, $30.00 per meeting (includes one field insp~ection). 30.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. 31. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 31 is 'to suppo~_t the concept for a boat ramp on the Dietz property in Mattituck. I offer that resolution. Moved by Supervisor Murphy, seconded by Councilman Stoutenbur~h; it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby auppo~ts the 'concept of the construction of a boat ramp on the former Dietz property at Mattituck Inlet.;' and authorizes the commencement of the permit process for the ramp construction by the Town APRIL 21, t987 9I¸ 31.-Vote of the Town Board: COUNCILMAN PENNY: No. COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: I expressed my concerns this morning at the Work Session, and mar~y~'o.f those, same concerns were expressed this evening and I cannot vote for this resolution. No. COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I expressed my concern this morning and y__es., I Will' vote for this and I only wish we were going to have enough people here to give you the other side of the story, instead of a one-sided story. Yes. JUSTICE EDWARDS: No. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Yes. This resolution was declared LOST. ' ~' 32. 32. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: And number 32, at the request of the applicant we're going to cancel the public hearing scheduled for Tuesday, May 5th, until further notice. Moved by Councilman Stoutenburgh, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby cancels the public hearing on the petition of Herbert R. Mandel for a change of zone, which hearing was to be held at 8:00 P.M., Tuesday, May 5, 1987, all in accordance with the request of the applicant. -Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: And number 33 is concerning sand. 33. Moved by Councilman Penny, seconded by Councilwoman Cochran, WHEREAS, Southold Town beaches have seriously eroded due to recent winter storms, an~ WHEREAS, the rehabilitation of Town beaches will require large quantities 'of sand and gravel, and WHEREAS, the County of Suffolk performs perioclic maintenance dredging of the creeks and public waterways in the Town of Southold, resulting in' the production of surplus spoil materials suitable for use by the Town of Southold as beach nourishment' materia~ for the rehabilitation of Town beaches, now,. therefore, be it RESOLVED that the Town Clerk transmit a certified copy of this resolution to A. Barton Cass, Commissioner of Publi~,'Works of the County of Suffolk, together with a request that the Commissioner agree to make available to the Town of Southold any. surplus spoil material resulting from Suffolk County dredging operations in the Town of Southold, especially from the proposed dredging projects at Goose Creek, Southold, and the New Suffolk Boat Ramp, New Suffolk, so that the Town may use the same for the rehabilitatio of Southold Town beaches. 33.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Stoutenburgh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Number 34 is to create a position of Superintendent of Recreation I. 34. Moved by Councilwoman Cochran, seconded by Justice Edwards, it was RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby creates the position of Superintendent of Recreation I, sets', the salary at $21,845.00 per annum, and authorizes and directs Supervisor Francis J. Murphy to request the Suffolk County Department of Civil Service Certification-of Eligibles for said position. 34.-Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council- man Stoutenbu~gh, Justice Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, you've heard all the resolutions for tonight,' is there any Councilman have anything further? Ray? (Nothing,--thank you.) Jean? (No, thank you, Frank.) Paul? (Nothing.) George? COUNCILMAN PENNY: Yes, just in regard to the people that came in today from the Animal Welfare Lea§ue regarding the Dog Pound construction, and in reviewing the contract I ran into our architect tonight at dinner and he told me that there is absolutel~ no problem with the time progress under the provisions of the contract. At the time of the signing we acknowledged the fact that there were going to be inclement conditions over the winter and we had also held up the contractor for about three weeks from the initial time that we had intended to have the signing, so we extended the contract from'- not the original 90 days, but for six months. So he is well within the limitations of the contract and things really are still in progress. Also, I vis[ted that site today and was very happy and surprised to see that quite-a bit 'of progress has happened in the last two or three days. The walls are painted on the outside the exterior coating. The insi'de and the outside are all p~:..epped for pouring of the ramp~. There's gravel in APRIL 21, 1987 place, l-l~ere is wire in place. ~The forms are in place. Th~ new furnace is hooked up and in place. The new ducts are run. So with a good somewhere in the neighbor- hood of--well, put it this way, he has until sometime in--that would be June, wouldn't it?--to get this completed under the terms of our contract. So I can understand the concerns of these people because progress 'is~slow, but'progress was antidPated to be ~ slow and still is within'the terms of our'c0ntract~ Thank y~u. COUNCII~IAN STOUTENBURGH: Why did~the architect send a letter that we. received threatening the builder with pulling a bond, George? COUNCIl_MAN PENNY: Because he anticipated--he was not aware--he had reviewed the original contract when it was first drawn, and he Was not aware that the Town Board had extended this period to a period of six months, He acknowledged the fact that he was in error and he explained that to me at dinner this evening. COUNClIzMAN STOUTENBURGH: I didn't think we asked him for a bond. COUNCILMAN PENNY: I don't believe we did, Paul. COUNCILMAN STOUTENBURGH: I wonder where he's getting his information from? COUNCILMAN PENNY: Well, we have the ability to waive the bond, and that would really not be a concern of the architect. That's the Town Board's concern. Gary ~was going by the original documentation which he had, and not the final result. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Anything else, George? COUNCILMAN PENNY: No, nothing. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Okay, is ~there anyone in the_~dience Who would like to address the Town Board? Ed..~ EDWARD SIEGMANN: Mr. Chairman, i have a question, and then I have a remark that I'd like to make. The question i~, I saw a resolution tonight defeated by a vote of three to two. I'd like to know that ifa resolution Can be defeated by~ vote Of three to'two, how is it 'that our--the change of the Norris property had a vote of three to t~o and you said you couldn't accept the vote of three to two. There had to be fou~ votes. Why is there a difference in' this~voting process? ~ SUPERVISOR MURPHY: It'.was a vote to pass~ Ed. You need four votes to pass ~t. There was ~ot four votes so the resolution was defeated. EDWARD SIEGMANN: In other words, if'two people abstained from voting up here tonight, and you had three votes ~yes" to pass it, it 'Wouldn't? SUPERVISOR MURPHY: No. EDWARD SIEGMANN: Why is'that? According to the Town Code? TOWN. CLERK TERRY: It's according to law. COUNCILWOMAN COCHRAN: Town law. Four out of six. TOWN CLERK TERRY: It's according to the number of people sitting here. people. And they need four out of six' to adopt a resolution. EDWARD SIEGMANN: people were absent. TOWN CLERK TERRY: Six Well, if there were only four people sitting there and two You'd need four "yes" votes to pass everything.~ SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We would need unanimous decision by the .four people ~ sitting here. ~ EDWARD SIEGMANN: And what is'the procedure, that you would use to try to change that '[own Law? To make it a simple majority? SUPERVISOR MURPHY: You'd probably have to go to the State Legislature. EDWARD SIEGMANN: The State governs the Town Law in reference to those votes? SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We're a little different then. most other towns, we have one extra Town Board member. EDWARD SIEGMANN: This would even be different then the State wh~n' they ~oteon something. When they vote on something in the State UP in Albany, if'they have a simple majority on something..it goes. They don't say that you' have to have sixty APRIL 21, 1987 yes and 30 no. So this would 'be-~iJ;~· to 'the way they vote. They vote on a simple majority. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: We would have to have our Town Attorney to advise that. EDWARD SIEGMANN: It just interested me when I sat here to see a three to two vote could turn something down, but a three to two vote can't accept something. This is apparently what the law is. JUSTICE EDWARDS: No, you're wrong. A three to two can't accept anything. We still have to have ,four to 'accept. EDWARD SIEGMANN:.This is:what I just said; SUPERVISOR MURPHY: You have to have four pass. EDWARD SIEGMANN: Three to two can turn something down, but a three to two cannot accept something. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: You have to have four to pass a resolution. EDWARD SiEGMANN: All right now, I Was interested in the report that Justice Edwards made tonight in' reference to the meeting that's going to be held over on the Island, ~lf I understood it :correct, it's with the DEC in' reference to finding out if with the amount of development that may take place ....... JUSTICE EDWARDS: Not the DEC. EDWARD SIEGMANN: JUSTICE EDWARDS: Who would it be with? Not the DEC. SUPERVIOSR MURPHY: It"s Suffolk County Health Department reviewing requests for the'- Fishers Island Conservancy and Civic Association, 'who made a requ~est for a water study. Asking for a wide spectrum and Joe-Baie~ has offered to go over to discuss with the people exactly what records have been kept, what Suffol'k County does have, and what they would gain by having additional tests made, and is it worth'~ - it. EDWARD SIEGMANN: And if I understood correct, you said' that -the purpose of this would be to find out if there would be enough water over there to whether you would have to control~ development, or whether you would have to let development run free if there were enough water there. JUSTICE EDWARDS: No, we're controlling development over tl~ere now, but it's nice to know, as you people here in Southold have had your water studies done, but we have not had any done over there. We would like to have a comprehensive-study done just to see what we do have there. EDWARD SIEGMANN: I'm not arguing with you. In fact I'm agreeing with you that this-should be done. But I tell you what hurts a little bit 'though, when t hear you. say this and you had an engineering firm that made a study up in the area where Norris wants to build, and he came back with a recommendation that it should be two acre area up there and you also had a town planner who recommended at the meeting that you held, that it should be two acres up there, and still you voted against what the town planner recommended and what the engineering firm recommended. I would say that if you're going to have these types of meetings and you're going to have these types of studies made, then you ought to pay attention to what that study PrOduces, or it doesn't make any sense to have the study to start with. And I mean this, believe me, I mean this as constructive criticism. I'm not faulting you for what you did, but I'm saying it's strange to hear someone say that some;~hi.ngs going to be done on Fisher Island and it was done over here and then after the recommendations were made the recommendations were just not adhered to and people voted against what was recommended to do. JUSTICE EDWARDS: May I make a comment? EDWARD SIEGMANN: Sure. JUSTICE EDWARDS: I think the last cor~respondence I got on the Norris property ~he~e was from some engineering service that said tl~ere's plenty o_f water underneath t~.hat property. EDWARD SIEGMANN: See, this is'the whole problem with the Norris;... JUSTICE EDWARDS: Hey, wait a minute. Are you going to admit to that or not? APRIL 21, 1987 EDWARD SIEGMANN: JUSTICE EDWARDS: I'11' tell you what i'm going to admit to .... Is it yes or no? EDWARD SIEGMANN: l'm going to tell you that there were letters sent by Hart to your Planning Board claiming that certain things were so, that there's plenty of water there, we're going to take care of all the problems when they come---they still' haven't gone on record with anything. They haven't asked for a permit from the Health Depart- ment. They haven't asked for a permit from the DEC. They haven't made any further representation to your Planning Board office here for a period of a year now, but the_~_ have been sending love letters where Hart says there's plenty of wa;~er, and Hart sag the ..... Town is do ng a good job, but I Sti I' haven't seen anvth na from them _~na'n~l eer'n!Jil~i!lJll w.se. I can tell you someth, ng else if you want. There was a report made!'l~y the who owns the well company that'digs the wells up there who says that there is plenty of water up there, but he said' if you lower that wat'er table by one inch, he said you're going, to bring salt water in from the Bay. So all of these statements that are being made, but nothing has been sent in'officially, I don't think they should stand up when you m;a~e your judgment. I think your judgment should be made on the things that was said. The engineering firm said it should be two acres. The town planner said it should be two acres. People that you hire. Not people~tha't we'hired made those recommendations. And still'we lost the vote because we needed a fourth vote. See these are things that you sit 'here and you listen to. And you know t gets under your ~kin whe~ one thing is treated one way and someth~ g ~s treated another way, and I agree with you a hundred percent, there should be a study.' out there on the water. I don't want to--or my kids, I hope, don't have to read twenty or thirty years from now what we're reading about in' Nassau County and Suffolk County, ~)f all the problems they're having with water, because the people back in those d~ys~ didn't listen. We're asking you people to listen today, that our kids are not faced with the same thing that these people are f~ced with, and all I'm saying is that when you pay engineering .firms and you pay your town planner, then you ought to pay attention to what that engineering firm or the town planner says, or get rid'of them. If you can't take their advice, don't have them. Get somebody in that you can take their advice from. And I'm hot disagreeing with your study over there. 1' think the study should be made, but I think it was wrong what was done with us because you had the answers from the study. . And for people to say'in newsp pa er articles that I didn't have an,, information oM the subject", this just isn't true. There was plenty of information on~ the subject. Information that was paid~ for by the taxpayers in this'Town~, tion that was not lisl!ened to by people who have other reasons that they don't want ~ listen to it. SUPERVISOR MURPHY: Thank you. Is there anyone else in the audience would like to address the Town Board? (No response.) If not, I think a motion to adjourn~s in order. I'd like to thank everyone for coming out tonight. On motion of CouncilWoman Cochran, seconded by Councilman Penny, it was RESOLVED that this Town Board meeting be and hereby is adjourned at 8:~0 P.M. Vote of the Town Board: Ayes: Councilman Penny, Councilwoman Cochran, Council-' man Stoutenburgh, JustiCe Edwards, Supervisor Murphy. This resolution was declared duly ADOPTED. ~ )~udith T. Terry ~/ -.Southold Town Cler'k