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SOUTHOLD TOWN
CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL
The regular meeting of the Southold Town Conservation
Advisory Council was held at 8: 00 P. M. , on Thursday, September 19,
1985, at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York.
Present were: Martin H. Garrell - Chairman
Heather Cusack - Member
Ralph C. Condit, II - Member
John Holzapfel - Member
Jeanne Marriner - Member
John Tuthill Member
Linda J. Cooper - Secretary
Absent was: Betty Wells - Member
Moved by Jeanne Marriner, seconded by Martin Garrell, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the regular meeting. held August 27, 1985
be corrected and approved.
Vote of the Council: Ayes: All
Chairman Garrell related Councilman Paul Stoutenburgh's
opinion that this CAC should get more involved in other Conservation
Advisory Councils located in surrounding communities and the state.
To start things moving along those lines, Martin Garrell brought
along information from the New York State Association of Conservation
Commissions, which included an issue of their newsletter . Copies
will be made available prior to the next regular meeting. The
Council will then decide whether to join the organization.
Mr. Garrell also commented on the STOP program. He feels the
program was a success this year and the town will probably continue
with it as an annual event , but will make an effort to bring in
more of the large scale users of pesticides. and chemicals .
REPORTS :
Martin Garrell, the Council's representative to th.e Long
Island Sound Study, reported in August a kick-off, with_ politicians
and the press was held. The scientific studies are now- getting
under way. by building up and organizing data. An important meeting
scheduled for October 10 , 1985, will be held to formulate plans
for comi.ng years and look at the direction the scientists are
taking.
Ralph Condit, the Green Seal representative, reported that
approximately 450 bushels bf clams were used in two .separate
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plantings involving Town Creek, Jockey Creek, Goose Creek, Corey
Creek, and Broadwaters Cove. Another batch of approxiately 200
bushels is dae the end of September or the beginning of October.
It was suggested, the Trustees or Supervisor Murphy be asked
if the town plans to continue in the program and if thbre,; is any-
thing that must be done to insure participation.
Heather Cusack, the STOP program representative, reported the
program held by the town went very well . All 40 drums were filled,
which included, among other pollutants, DDT, Agent Orange, and
Chlordane. As part of the program, questionaires were used, asking
participants how they heard of the program, should int be continued,
and if so, on an annual or semi-annual basis .
The major problem was, no special effort was made to notify
businesses and farmers of the program. Heather feels businesses.
should be contacted and be asked to save their pollutants for the
programs in the future.
An Erosion Workshop will be held Saturday, September 21, 1985
at the Riverhead Campus of the Suffolk Coummunity College, and
Martin Garrell would like a member of the Council to attend. In
response, John Holzapfel, said he would try to attend.
Wetland Applications :
Moved by Ralph Condit, seconded by John Holzapfel, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Town Trustees approval of the wetland
application No. 300 submitted by En-Consultants, Inc. for Mattituck
Inlet Marina to maintenance dredge within ( 2) 45 ' x 20' travel
lift slips to 5' below MLW. Approximately 54 cu. yds:. to be
removed from each. Remove_ ( 3) high spots within marina by mainten-
ance dredging to surrounding depth of 5' . Approximately 10 cu. yds .
to be removed form each. All spoil will be trucked away to Town
Dump- or other suitable upland site. Mill Road, Mattituck .
Vote of Council : Ayes: All
Motion carried.
Moved by Martin Garrell, seconded by Ralph Condit, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Town Trustees approval of the wetland
application No. 301 submitted by North Fork Marine Construction
on behalf of Kathleen A. Newmann . to rebuild existing docks and
replace floating docks lost over winter. South of Mill Road,
Mattituck.
Vote of Council: Ayes-:_ All
Motion carried.
Moved by John Tuthill, seconded by Jeanne Marriner, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Town Trustees approval of the wetland
application NO. 302 submitted by Costello Marine Contracting
for Paradise Shores. Property Association c/o Helen Forestieri
to construct 82 ' of CCA bulkhead for Paradise Shores Assoc. and fill
behind bulkhead with 250 cu. yds. truck in sand . Paradise Shores ,
Southold.
Vote of Council: Ayes:. All
Motion carried.
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Moved by Ralph Condit, seconded by John Tuthill, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Town Trustees approval--of the wetland
application No . 303 submitted by Reydon Shores Property Owners
Association, President , Harvey Peace, repair or replace 500:" L.F.
bulkhead. Reydon Shores, Bayview, Southold.
Vote of Council : Ayes : All
Motion carried..
Moved by .Jeanne Marriner, seconded by John Tuthill, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Town Trustees di's'approval of the
wetland application. No . 304 submitted by En-Consultants, Inc.
on behalf of Anthony Forosich to maintenance dredge and irregular
area roughly 50' x 20 ' (max) to 4 ' below MLW. Approximately
50 cu. yds. of spoil to be removed to suitable upland site . Off
an existing bulkhead, install 4 ' x 12 ' hinged ramp and 6 ' x 16 '
float secured by (2) 8" diameter pilings. Th.e Council feel th.e
wetlands would be destroyed and there is a problem of drainage
pf th.e property located in back of the bulkhead. The Council
suggests th.e applicant join with Howard Shapiro (Wetland.Application
No. 308) for a single dock and use care, so there will be no
interference with their neighbor' s navigation. 1405 Anchor Lane,
'Southold.
Vote 'of Council: Ayes : All
Motion carried.
Moved by Martin Garrell, seconded by Ralph- Condit, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Town Trustees approval of wetland
application No.' 305 submitted by En-Consultants , Inc, on behalf
of Dolores Holman to construct (2) 30 ' stone groins near middle and
east side of bulkheaded property. Approximately 250 cu. yds.
of clean sand will be trucked in to prefill groin. West Lake Road,
Southold.
Vote 'of Council: . Ayes : A l l
Motion carried.
Moved by John Holzapfel, seconded by John Tuthill, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Town Trustees 'appr'oval of the wetland
application No. '3'06 submitted by Lars Torkelsen to construct a
20 ' x 6 ' floating dock, ramp out to dock. is 4' wide, max. , 3 ' Min.
above sea grass, approximately 20' Long. 1130 Glen Road, Southold.
Vote 'of `Council : Ayes: All
Motion carried.
Moved by Ralph Condit, seconded by John Tuthill, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Town Trustees approval of wetland
application No. 307 submitted by John W. Pearson, M.D. , to build
a catwalk 4 ' x 32 ' with 20 ' x 6 ' floating dock with 12 ' connector
into Richmond Creek. 3258 South Harbor Road, Southold.
Vote of Council: Ayes : All
Motion carried.
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Moved by Jeanne Marriner.-, seconded by John Tuthill, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Town Trustees disapproval of the
wetland application No . 308 submitted by En-Consultants, Inc.
on behalf of Howard Schapiro to maintenance dredge an irregular-
shaped area roughly 70 ' x 20 ' to 4 ' below MLW. Approximately 125
cu. yds . of spoil will be removed and placed on owners property
behind bulkhead or trucked away. Install a 4 ' x 4 ' platform off
existing bulkhead, 4' x 12 ' ramp and 6 ' x 21 ' main float parallel
to bulkhead. Two 6 ' x 24' finger floats will be plated perpendicular
to main float . The Council feels the wetlands would be destroyed
and there is . a problem of drainage of the property located in back
of the bulkhead. The Council suggests the applicant join with
Anthony Forosich (Wetland Application No. 304) for a single dock
and use care, so there will be no interfere-nee with their neighbor' s
navigation . Anchor Lane, Southold.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
At this point, the Council began review the Marina BAy Club
application (Wetland Application No . 289) . Five residents of
New Suffolk at this meeting were:
Thomas Lowry Bob Costanzo
Ann Lowry Rowena Marvin
Linda Eletch-er
These residents expressed .their concern over the total Marina
Bay Club project . Mr. Lowry brought plans of the .whole project
which the Council studied. Among the concerns were
a,, Water The area has a fragile water table. A major
project like the Marina Bay Club . could easily upset the
delicate balance. The land involved doesn ' t have potable water .
b . ' Traffic - Only two roads in and out of New Suffolk.
(A traffic study done in a,.February for the bridge showed
an average of 673 vehicles a day - 307o higher projected
in season traffic. )
c. Wastewater - It was cited that every other day; Bonnies by
the Bay and the GAlley-Ho must have their cesspools pumped.
Areas around "Bonnie' s" must move their wells for a new
cesspool which is to be installed.
d. Parking - The area is limited. The whole area would end up
being blacktopped. The project is estimating 80 employees .
The parking for the employees plus customers must be considered.
e. Lose flavor of the area.
f. Boat pollution.
g . Noise pollution .
Those in attendance feel the project is just too large. They
realize change must occur, but they feel the change should be limited.
Moved by Martin Garrell, seconded by Ralph Condit , it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Town Trustees neither approval or
disapproval of the wetland application No. 289 submitted by the,
Land Use Company on behalf of The Marina Bay Club . to reconstruct
an existing marina by installing 130 slips, catwalks, and floats. Area
will be maintenence dredged to 6 ' MLW. Approximately 22, 000 cu . yds .
of sand will be removed and placed landward of proposed 690 '
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of new bulkhead. The Council wishes to reserve judgement at
this time. They request a DEIS be done and allow the Council
time to study the results . The CAC asks to be considered a
party of interest and kegt'-:abreast of all developements.
Main Street, New Suffolk . .
Vote of Council : Ayes : All
Motion carried.
New applications to come before the Council are:
No. 299 En-Consultants, Inc. on behalf of Jack- & Joan Donnelly
No . 309 N.F. Marine Const . Inc. on . behalf of Raymond -Sweeney-
No.
aymond SweeneyNo. 310 En-Consultants, Inc. on behalf of Neil Simon
No. 311 John Kramer
No. 312 Thomas W, Cramer
No. 313 The Land Use Co. on behalf of Henry P. Smith
After reviewing the new applications , inspections were
distributed as follows :
'No. 299 Jeanne Marriner
No. 309 _ Heather Cusack
No. 310 - John Holzapfel
No. 311 - John Hol:zapfel
No. 312 - Group Inspection
No. 313 - Group Inspection
Group inspections will be held Thursday', October 17, 1985;
The group will meet At Southold Town Hall, at 3 : 00 P .M.
The next regular meeting of the Conservation Advisory
Council will b e at 8: 00 P.M. , Tuesday, October 22, 1985, at the
Southold Town Hall .
�,:._�. There- .being no further business to come before the Council,
Moved by Ralph Condit , seconded by John Tuthill, it was
RESOLVED to adjoun the meeting- at 9: 50 P.M.`
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
RECEIVED AND FILED BY
THE SOUTHOLD TOW14 CLERK Linda J. Cooper, Secretary
DATE %6; '023?5 HOUR
Town Clerk, Tovari of Southold