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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCAC-12/19/1985 G► 0 tf� ►1 Town Hall, 53095 Main Road 0' P.O. Box 1179 TELEPHONESouthold; New York 11971 (516)765-1801 SOUTHOLD TOWN CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL The regular meeting of the Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council was held Tuesday, December 19, 1985 at 8: 00 P.M. in the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York 11971 . Present were: Martin H. Garrell - Chairman John Holzapfel - Member Ralph :Condit - Member Jeanne Marriner - Member Heather Cusack - Member John Tuthill - Member Linda J. Cooper - Secretary Absent was : Betty Wells - Member Also :present: Mr. Newman - Application No. 330 and 335 On a motion made by John Tuthill, seconded by Ralph Condit, it was RESOLVED to approve the minutes of the meeting held November 26, 1985 . Vote of Council : Ayes : All Motion carried. REPORTS : New York Department of State Sign'ificant' Coas-tal Fish and Wildlife Habitats Several members of the CAC attended the meeting held Tuesday., December 10, 1985 and Monday, December 16, 1985 . It was suggested several of the local experts in the area be contacted and have them provide information to the group concerning locations of habitats of different wildlife and fish. LONG ISLAND SOUND STUDY representative Martin H. Garrell reported the LISS ' s request for proposals will be coming out soon for Fiscal 1986. In addition to a data base on toxins and eutrophication Of the Sound, the most interesting study for this area will be of winter flounder. The study will be trying to look at how . flounder do in polluted areas as compared to the more pristine areas of the Sound. The study will look at the role of contamination ij to reproduction. The LISS is also looking at hard clams (surf clams) regarding Page 2 growth and contamination. DISCUSSION: (; The CAC has requested dredging maps from John Guldi to see what has been dredged in the historic past, to aid the Council in their recommendations. The Council also discussed their desire to have a session or two with the new Town Board and Trustees to let them know what the CAC is doing, to discuss problems it runs into , and get the Town Board's and Trustees interpretations of different difficulties . A possible topic at the session would be to 'check with the Town Board to see if the town would be willing to financially back the CAC in restoring areas that have. 'deteriorated due to drainage problems . Chairman Garrell stated he will contact Councilman Stoutenburgh in regards to the Councilman ' s request to have the CAC do an inventory of sewers and drains going into town waters . The Council feels this is an excellent project . It's a simple step which would bring dramatic results in easing the loading of local creeks . The runoff could be deflected from the creeks into marshes and use the marshes as a buffer zone. Heather Cusack would like a booklet or brochure put out for the lay person to understand, explaining what wetlands are; the towns rules and regulations concerning wetlands; and the reasoning behind these rules. Also should be included are aspects the home owner should be aware of, i.i .)e. effects of lawns and fertilizers on the environment . The Council felt it would make a worthwhile project . It was suggested Heather contact the NFEC to see if they have anything like that already . Heather will also check with other towns to see if they have similar booklets which may be used as a guide. Chairman Garrell spoke of organizing a joint meeting between Southold, Riverhead, East Hampton and Southampton conservation groups , possibly Saturday, February 8 or 15,. 1986. He is . also considering having a guest speaker at the meeting. APPLICATIONS: The Council discussed the Ted Dowd application (Wetland Application No. 319) . A letter was written to Mr. Dowd after the last meeting requesting his presence at a future meeting. Mr. Dowd responded that he was working in Florida and would not be returning to Southold until springtime. All questions concerning his application will be put in writing and mailed to him. Chairman Garrell said he would compose a letter presenting the Council ' s concerns . At the Council ' s request Mr . Newman was present to discuss his Wetland Applications (No. 330 and No. 335) . In answer to the questions, Mr. Newman stated the bulkhead and :pilings in Application No. 330 would be flush with the ground level with sloping on the outside. (Drawings show bulkhead witha drop off) . New drawings will be submitted to the Trustees . . 0 : r Page 3 Mr. Newman' s Wetland Application No. 335 was then discussed. Mr . Newman stated twelve pilings would be used for the garage, placement would be along the back wall, front wall, and down the middle. (Garage will also require ZBA approval: ) It was explained by-1.14r. Newman that.%the back of the garage was built on an old bulkhead and caused the garage to sink. The garage contains a washer and shower, new plumbing will go into the existing cesspool . RECOMMENDATIONS: On a motion made by Martin Garrell, seconded* by Ralph Condit, it was RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board disapproval of the Wet'larid Application No.' 9'3A submitted by En-Consultants Inc. on behalf of Mat-t:-A'-Mar` Marina to construct timber docks consisting of: 4 ' x 35 ' catwalk (elevated a minimum of 3. 5 ' above grade of marsh) and a 3' x 15 ' hinged ramp leading to (18) 5 ' x 24 ' floats (432 ' overall) plus a 5' x 30' float and a 2' x 24' float . The Council felt_ the scale of the project is too large for that area and there was concern for the land owners on the opposite side. Mattituck Creek, Mattituck. Vote of the Council: Ayes: Martin Garrell Ralph Condit John Holzapfel Heather Cusack Jeanne Marriner Nays : John Tuthill Motion carried. On a motion made by Heather Cusack, seconded by Ralph. Condit it was RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees' 'dlsapproval of the Wetland Appl'icat-lon No. 315 submitted .by The Land Use Company on behalf of North ForkkProperty Develophient . to construct two 3 ' by 15 ' ramps leading to two.- 6' x 20 ' float docks which will be each supported by two 8" spiles . Then to dredge said canal to 2' at MLW an area 960 s . f . to allow -pleasure craft to tie up to said floats . Dredged material will then be trucked to the Southold Town Landfill . , The Council disapproves because the canal is too narrow for two floating docks. Also they feel the area cannot- be .dredged, its too narrow and the sides would fall in. The wetlands would be harmed. In addition, the area is a Black Duck habitat . Mattituck. ' Vote of Council: Ayes : All Motion carried. On a motion made by Ralph Condit., seconded by John- Tuth.ill ; _ it was- RESOLVED asRESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees-,-'approval of the Wetland Application No.' '3'25 submitted by Costello Marine Contracting Corp. for J. Lane Currylbo construct 60 ' low profile groin to extend from existing bulkhead. Pre-fill with 60 c.y. trucked in sand Page 4 of same granulation. Paradise Point Road, Southold. Vote of Council: Ayes : .' All Motion carried. On a motion made by Martin Garrell, seconded by Ralph Condit, it was RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees­disappro'val of the Wetland Applicatioii 'No'.' '3'26 submitted by Mr. Charles W. Bowman to create two-.i3 acre lots and construct a single family dwelling and sanitary system on each.. Approximately 2500 c. y. of fill will be installed at the sites to raise the grade for flood plain and Suffolk County Department of Health Service requirements . Also planned is installation of two fixed docks leading to ramps and float . The Council ' s disapproval is based on a letter from Suffolk County Department of Health Services to the Planning Board stating ground water conditions are not conductive to the proper functioning of individual sewage systems . Goose Creek, Southold. Vote of Council: Ayes: All Motion carried. On a motion made by Jeanne Marriner, seconded by John Tuthill , it was RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees­app'roval of the Wetland Application No. 327 submitted by Glenn E. Just of The Land Use Company on behalf of 'Iaii 'Shhand to construct a 5' x 15 ' fixed dock leading to a 3 ' x 15' ramp which will lead to two 5 ' x 15 ' floating docks. One of which will be set at a 45 degree difference to the other. Said float docks will be supported. by three 8" spiles. 1460 North Oakwood Road, Laurel, New York. Vote of Council: Ayes : All Motion carried. On a motion made by Ralph Condit, seconded by John Tuthill , it was RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees approval of the Wetland Application No. 328 submitted by The North Fork Marine Construc- tion, Inc. on behalf of John Lang to build a new CCA timber retaining wall 18" in. from t of existing wall . Wall will be approximately 135 ' in length and about 6" higher than existing wall . Indian Neck Lane, Peconic, New York. Vote of Council: Ayes : All Motion carried.:_. On a motion made by John Tuthill, seconded by John Holzapfel, it was RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees approval of the Wetland Application_ No. 329 submitted by North Fork Marine Construction, Inc. on behalf of Claeyes B ahrenbur to construct a timber d6 ck off of existing sea wall on south side of property, level with top of sea wall and out to edge of northern sea wall . West Bay Road, Orient, New York. Page 5 Vote of Council : Ayes: All Motion carried. On a motion made by Ralph Condit, seconded by John Tuthill, it was RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees approval of the Wetland Application No . 330 submitted by John J. Newman to construct 65 ' of bulkhead and 5' return bulkhead to control erosion, using 8 ' pile, 6' on center, 6' sheathing, 8 ' vertical deadman, and three pilings to existing floating dock. Approval is with the following stipulations: 1. Submit a new drawing for the bulkhead as discussed. 2. Use hay bales between bulkhead and water to avoid runoff during construction. 3 . Backfill . on the outside of the bulkhead up to the top of the retaining wall and plant natural vegetation on slope. Vote of Council: Ayes; Martin G:arrell, John Holzapfel, Ralph Condit , Heather Cusack, John Tuthill Abstain: Jeanne Marriner Mation carried. On a motion made by Ralph Condit, seconded by John Tuthill, it was RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees approval of the Wetland Application No . 331 submitted by En-Consultants, Inc. on behalf of Heagen Bayles to place stone rip-rap armor (1+ per l. f . ) in front of 445± l. f . of existing timber bulkhead. Smith Road, Nassau Point , Cutchogue, New York. Vote of Council: Ayes : All Motion carried. On a motion made by Ralph Condit , seconded by Jeanne Marriner, it was RESOLVED to table the Wetland Application No. 332 Submitted by Costello Marine Contracting Corp . on behalf of Helen D. Reiter. The Council feltthe project would sufficientaly impact the wetlands and suggests the Southold Town Trustees request ani. ENvironmental Impact Statement . The CAC wishes to be considered an interested party and tables the application until hearings are held. The following should be addressed: 1. Danger to the wetlands due to the dredging leading to under- cutting of the wetland in the extreme tidal conditions . 2 . Disturbance to the. wetlands during dredging and construction. Main Road, Southold, New York. ; Vote of Council: Ayes : All Motion carried. On a motion made by John Holzapfel, seconded by Ralph Condit, it was RESOLVED to table the Wetland Application No. 333 submitted by En- Consultants, Inc. on behalf of Dr. Vincent Claps to construct a dock with a hinged ramp and float secured by two 8" pilings . The Council will send the applicant a letter with suggestion for amending his application. John Holzapfel will compose the letter . End of Willow Point Road near Greenport , New York. Vote of Council: Ayes: All Motion carried. Page 6 On a motion made by Martin Garrell, seconded by John Tuthill, it was RESOLVED to table Wetland Application No.' 335 submitted by John J. Newman to drive pilings to shove up existing garage and add a second floor. The Council will investigate the matters of overloading of the existing cesspool, legality of a second story going against the covenants of his deed, and the possibility - of disturbance to surrounding areas by driving 12 pilings into the ground. Sailors Needle Road, Mattituck, New "York. Vote .of Council: Ayes: Martin Garrell, John Tuthill, Ralph Condit, Heather Cusack, John H.olzapfel Abstain: Jeanne Marriner Motion -carried. t On a motion made by John Tuthill, seconded by Martin Garrell , it was RESOLVED to table the Wetland Application NO.-336 submitted by 'Mr. Glenn F. Heidtmann to build a single family home. The Council requested a letter be sent to Mr. Heidtmann asking that he attend a future meeting. Brigantine Drive, Harbor Lights, Southold, New York. Vote of Council: Ayes: All Motion carried. NEW BUSINESS The next regular meeting of the Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council was scheduled for Tuesday, January 28, 1986 at 8: 00 P.M. at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York. Group Inspections will be made on Thursday, January 23, 1986. The group will meet at Southold Town Hall at 3: 00 P.M. New applications were as follows : No. 334 - Group ,Inspection No . 337 - Group Inspection No. 338 - Group Inspection There being no further business to come before the Council on a motion made by John Holzapfel, seconded by Jeanne Marriner, itS,iiwas RESOLVED to adjourn the meeting at 10: 20 P.M. Vote of Council : Ayes: All Motion carried. RECC IVE"' •`z ,', ti Respectfully submitted, DST 5 Prn Linda J. Cooper, Secretary