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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCAC-06/19/1986 O [n71 Town Hall, 53095 Main Road P.O. Box 1179 TELEPHONE Southold, New York 11971 (516)765-1801 SOUTHOLD TOWN CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL The Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council held its regular meeting held 'Thursday, June 19 , 1986 at 7 : 30 PM at the Southold. Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York.. Present were: John Holzapfel, Member John Tuthill, Member (Left at 9 : 55 PM) Ralph Condit, Member (Arrived at 7 : 45 PM) Jeanne Marriner, Member ( Arrived at 8 : 00 PM) Linda J. Cooper, Secretary Also present: Jay Tanski, Sea Grant Absent were: Martin H.. Garrell, Ch_ai .man Betty Wells , Member . Heather Cusack, Member Gue`s.t &p'eaker; Jay Tanski.- of Sea Grant appeared before the Council to discus-a bulkh.eads:, groins and jetties. It was a question and answer forum which was very informative to the -members. Among t6.pi.cs- which .were dis-cuas-ed w-as bulkh.eads , called shore hardening structures , like the rock revetment or seawall . These structures- act to h.ar.den :-.-the sh.ore against wave attack problems It i.s- the most econmmieal means against shore erosion. I:t does have adverse impacts. Least of the problems is that it reflects wave energy during storms' and cause scour in front of the b.each.. Also it can redirect waves- along the bulkhead and scour along the .edge. - Th.e worst problem with_ the structures: _s the it prevents whole beach. form from migrating b..a:ck:. . Th-d.- s..-horel'ing will eventually reach thb bulkhead. Berm cannot moye.. Th.e. problem will present itself most obvi.ous-ly along:=th.e b.lu•ffs of tR-e north s.:?i.ore. The b.luffs erosion is a source of material for the beaches . If bulkh.eading is- allowed along the whole shoreline the beaches. would disappear. Given time, the s-tructures' would b.e undercut to gain back. th.e beaches. It has .been studied that certain areas provide more sand th.an other areas . Mr. Tanski also stated that where the., littoral_ drift is- coming from and how- much it i6must be' k.nown- to determine 'us;e of er.os; :on .control structures. In speaking of jetties-, Nr Tansk. , s-tated' that ons 'w-ay, for Page 2 the Council to determine if an existing jetty needs renewing is to check to see if the area has filled in completely. If it hasn' t, then there is no reason to interfere with the ' j.etty:. at that time. He also gave a set of guidlines for installing jetties : 1 . Jetties should protrude no further than Mean Low Water 2 . Jetties should follow the present grade of the beach with the landward end no higher that the Mean High Water. 3. Prefill . Mr. Tanski also supplied several booklets which the secretary will copy and distribute to the CAC members . MINUTES On a motion made by Jeanne Marriner, seconded by John Holzapfel, it was RESOLVED to approve the minutes of May 13, 1986 . Vote of Council: Ayes: All Motion carried. OLD BUSINESS Heather Cusack' s letter to the Suffolk County Legislture in regard to Atupport of the acquisition of land legislation was distributed to the Council members for comment and approval. The Council approved the letter with the exception of John Tuthill, who asked that his name be omitted from the letter. Mr. Tuthill---does not support the letter because he does;inot believe Orient Point should became a Suffolk County Park. NEW BUSINESS Jeanne Marriner feels the. Council should suggest to the Southold Town Trustees that a Notice to Adjacent Property Owner b.e sent to property owners adjacent to applicants and also to property owners situated across from applicant when the proposed project is located on a narrow creek. She feels this is especially neccessary when the proposed project would have a great effect on the neighbor, such as a groin, jetty, bulkhead, etc. The Council concurred with Mrs . Marrienr' s suggestion and the CAC secretary will send a letter to the Southold Town Trustees making the suggestion along with a sample of a Notice to Adjacent Property Owner used b.y the Southold Town Zoning Board of Appeals. s Page APPLICATIONS On a- motion made by Jeanne Marriner, seconded by John Tuthill, it was RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees DISABBROVAL of wetland application No. 369 submitted by Joseph A. Barbato to extend an existiAg jetty to 48' and install a new jetty 48' in length. The Council recommends the applicant resubmit the applica- tion without the 20 ' extension on the existing jetty . The proposed jetty to be no' longer than the length of the existing jetty, the seaward end should follow the grade of the bottom contour and prefill . The Council also feels the adjacent neighbors should be notified and given an opportunity to comment. Vote of Council: Ayes : All Motion carried. On a motion made by Ralph Condit , seconded by John Holzapfel, it was RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees DISAPPROVAL of wetland application NO. 372 submitted by Costello Marine Con- tracting Corp. on behalf of Donald Brennan to install a 40 ' jetty approximately 25 ' north of the east property line and install a 70' jetty 40' south of the northeast property line. The Council feels the applicant should resubmit adhereing to the following guidelines : 1 . Jetties should protrude no further than the Mean Low Water. 2 . Jetties must follw the present grade of the beach . with the landwatd ends no higher than the Mean High Water. 3. Prefill. Vote of Council: Ayes : All Motion carried. On a motion made by John Tuthill, seconded by John Holzapfel , it was RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees APPROVAL of wetland application No : '392 submitted by Mathias Mone to con- struct steps to beach for private use. The Council stresses that the applicant should use extreme care to minimize any damage to the hill during construction. Vote of Council: Ayes : All Motion carried. On a motion made by Jeanne Marriner, seconded by John Tuthill , it was RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees APPROVAL of wetland application No . 393 submitted by the Land Use Company for Vernon G. Strub to reconstruct within 18" , approximately 73 ' of storm damaged timber bulkhead., New structure shall be 1 ' higher. Also to construct a 10 ' return at the east end and to backfill with approx- imately 40 c. y. of clean sand. Vote of Council : Ayes : All Motion carried . Page 4 On a motion made by Jeanne Marriner, seconded by John Holzapfel , it was RESOLVED to TABLE wetland application No . 394 submitted by the Land Use Company on behalf of Frank R. Reilly. The Council feels a group inspection is necessary before making a recommendation. Vote of Council: . Ayes : All Motion carried. (Jeanne Marriener, who inspected the property felt the cabin was no problem. However the area is surrounded .by wetlands and she couldn 't find the man-made canal or ditch. Applicant should stake out the dock and ramp for the group inspection . ) On a motion made by Jeanne Marriner, seconded by John Tuthill , it was RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees APPROVAL WITH STIPULATIONS of the wetland application No . 395 submitted by En- Consultants , Inc. on behalf of Roger Vorce to construct a 200+ l . f . of timber retainging wall to connect to and be in line with partially constructed wall on other land of Vorce directly east . Armor retain- ing wall with one ton �fip-rap . An 18' return will be constructed on west side. Approximately 350 c.y . of clean sand will be used to backfill . Wall will be avove spring HW. The Council recommends approval provided the applicant replants the slope with natural vegetation. Vote of Council: Ayes : All Motion carried. On a motion made by Jeanne Marriner , seconded by John Tuthill, it was RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees DISAPPROVAL of wetland application No . 396 submitted by Henry E. RAynor, Jr . on behalf of Frederick Koehler toconstruct a beach house above the bulkhead on property in New Suffolk. The Council suggests the applicant either resubmit or amend the application with a much smaller structure more in keeping with the neighboring structure, and do not plan for any plumbing (toilets , showers , etc. ) Vote of Council: Ayes : All Motion carried. On a motion made by Jeanne, seconded by Ralph Condit , it was RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees APPROVAL of wetland application No . 397 submitted by Joseph -Marrapodi to construct a retaining wall and steps . 4115 Stillwater Ave. , Cutchogue. Vote of ' Council: Ayes : All Motion carried. Page 5 On a motion made by Ralph Condit , seconded by Jeanne Marriner, it was RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees DISAPPROVAL of wetland application No. 398 submitted by En-Consultants, Inc. on behalf of Harold Wilsberg to construct 100 ' timber bulkhead generally along line of MHW plus 15' return at west end. Dredge in front out to 151 . Approximately 225 c. y.* of spoil will be removed and placed behind the bulkhead as spoil. Bulkhead. will correct to and be in with recently constructed bulkhead to east . 10 year maintenance dredge is requested. The Council would like the applicant to re- submit or amend the application for only a floating dock and no bulkhead. The Council recommends the floating dock instead of the bulkhead to allw for the 'extensive colonization of spartina which would .-stabilize the land and reduce the nedd for any bulkhead. Ole Jule Lane, Mattituck. Vote of Council: Ayes : Ralph Condit Jeanne Marriner Nays: John Tuthill - John sees: nothing wrong with the bulkhead. He feels the applicant should be allowed to do what wants to do on his own property . Abstain: John Holzapfel - John has not inspected the property. Motion LOST. On a motion made by Ralph Condit , seconded by Jeanne Marriner , - it . was RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees APPROVAL of wetland application No . 399 submitted by the Land Use Company on behalf of Margaret Cukor to reconstruct within 1.8" , approximately 122 ' of strom damaged timber bulkhead and backfill with approximately 10c". y . of clean sand. Indian Neck Road, Peconic. Vote of Council: Ayes: All Motion carried. On a motion made by Jeanne Marriner, seconded by Ralph Condit, it was RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees DISAPPROVAL of wetland application No. 400 submitted by En- Consultants , Inc . on behalf of Sal Caiola to construct a sheet steel retaining wall along tow of bluff and on- uphill side of road down face of bluff . A Total of 962 + l . f. of retaining wall is proposed. For sections facing Long Island Sound stone armor will be placed. ' Approximately 400 c. y. of clean sand and loam will be used for backfill. Wall will be entirely above MHW. The Council disapproves because there are no other wall in the adjacent area and it feels construction could disturb the bluffs . Greenport . Vote of Council: Ayes : Jeanne Marriner Ralph Condit Page 6 Abstain: John Tuthill - "It won`t hurt wetlands or anything , " John Holzapfel - John has not inspected the property. Motion LOST . On a motion made by Ralph_ Condit , seconded by John Tuthill, it was , RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees' 'A•PP'ROVAL of wetland application No.' '401 submitted by _Dimit'rois 'J'.' S'ariyiannis to build a one-family home. Arshamomaque, Kerving Blvd. and Bayshore Road, Southold. Vote of Council: Ayes: All Motion carried. On a motion made by Ralph - Condit, seconded by- Jeanne Marriner , it was RESOLVED to recommend to.-the.-Southold .Town Trustees DIS'APPRO'VAL of wetland applicatiori..'No. 402 submitted by' Greenport Dock B.uildiers for Gerald' 'Rup.p to install two retaining wall . The first will be constructed at the top of the bluff to 65 ' in length with two 5 ' returns . 350 c. y. of clean fill will be placed on the bluff to the second retaining wall constructed 15 ' landward of the existing bulkhead to a length- of .60 ' with tw-o V returns . The concrete now on the bluff will be placed seaward of the base retaining wall to the bulkhead as rip-rap . "The area between the two walls will be terraced n and vegetated to fruther stabilize the bluff, an 8 ' x 10 ' deck will be constructed at the base of stairs. . The Council dis-approves because th.e slope is- in good condition.._ and is holding as is . If the applicant does anything further it could disturb the natural vegetation which would lead to serious erosion problems . The Council does recommend the repair of the stairs and existing bulkhead. They suggest the applicant either amend or resubmit the application to do th.e repairs suggested and placing a small deck at the base of stairs but proposing no retain- ing walls. Soundview Avenue, Southold. Vote of Council: Ayes : Jeanne Marri,ner.�: Ralph Condit Abstain John Holzapfel - John did not inspect the property John Tuthill - Mr. Tuthill feels the CAC is involving itself in too many areas . He feels the CAC should only, concern itself with wetlands . Motion LOST . Page 7 NEW APPLICATION The following Appli'd' tton-s w-exe. 'dis.tx but.ed and aasi.g.n.ed for inspe.ctions: as.- li.s-ted, No .. 403 - Jeanne Marriner ins-p'ecti.on' NO. 40.4 -- Ralph_ Condit ins-pection' No. 405 - Group ins-pection No, 40.6. Ralph. Coni.dt inspection - No. 407 - John H--olzapfel ins-pection' No. 40.8 Jeanne Marriaer inspection No. 40.9_ - Group inspection No-.-. .410". Ralph_ Condit ins:pecti.on No . .41-1 !- Jeanne Marriner ins-pe.ction No. 412 - Group inspection No.- 413 John H.olzapfel inspection No, 414 Group ins-pecti.on NEXT ME.ET'I:NG 'arid' TNS-)?ECT1O'N DATE Th-e Southold Town CAC -scheduled th-e next. -meeting for Th-ur.sday-, July, 17 , 1986 at 8., 00 PM at S-ou'thold Town hall. Group inspections are scheduled for Thursday, July 17, 1986. The group will meet at South_b;ld Town* Hall at 3: GO PM. Th-exe tieing no further business to come b.efo.xe th-e Council , on a motion made b.y Ralph. Condit , seconded b.y, John H:olzapfel, it w-as RESOLVED to adjourn the meeting at 10.15 PM: Vote of Council; Ayes., All Motion carried. respectfully, submitted, Linda J . Cooper, Secretary RECEIVED AN ]FI:D BY THE SOUTHOLD CLEM DATE ala H6 d `1 07 Town Clerk, Towuthold