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SOUTHOLD TOWN
CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL
The Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council held its regular meeting
on Thursday, June 18, 1987 at 8:00 P.M. at the Southold Town Hall, Main
Road, Southold, New York 11971.
Present were: John Holzapfel, Member
John Tuthill, Member
Heather Cusack, Member
Ralph Condit, Member
Betty Wells, Member
Jeanne Marriner, Outgoing Member (8:00 P.M. to 8:30 P.M. )
Daniel Kujawski, New Member
Margaret Feeney, New Member
Linda Cooper, Secretary
ANNOUCEMENTS
Jeanne Marriner thanked the Council members for their support and welcomed
the newly appointed members. Jeanne distributed to all members a 1987=1989
CAC agenda(see attached) . She also discussed the objectives of the CAC
and the impact of the Council on the future of Southold Town.
SELECTION OF NEW CHAIRMAN
On a motion made by Heather Cusack, seconded by JOhn Tuthill, it was
RESOLVED to appoint John Holzapfel the Chairman of the CAC.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
On a motion made by John Tuthill, seconded by Heather Cusack, it was
RESOLVED to appoint Ralph Condit the Assistant Chairman of the CAC.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
Jeanne Marriner left after the members voted in the new Chairman and Assistant
Chairman.
REPORTS
John Tuthill attended an inspection of the Koke/Kerb property located in
Orient. Mr. Tuthill submitted'-a grid-map-showing existing wetland species
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Located on the property and a description of same which was drawn uup by
Trustee Bredemeyer.
Chain Holzapfel inforft4he Council that the DEC will be holding a meeting
regarding solid -waste which will be held in Nassau County. John will
furnish further information to any interested member.
DISCUSSION AND RECOMMEENDATION OF WETLAND APPLICATIONS
On a motion made by John Holzapfel, seconded by Ralph Condit, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees approval of Wetland
Application No. 510 submitted byJarres E. Fitzgerald, Jr. , Pres. , Broad-
waters Cove Association, Inc, to replace existing bulkheading return, and
replace three existing pilings, bulkheaded catwalk; add approximately 20'
of open catwalk; maintenance dredge dock-ing area; add three floating docks
with four fingers.
South side of eastern end of Mason Drive, Cutchogue.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
Application No. 521 submitted for John L. Bagshaw is continued tabled pend-
the co-ordination of the application betweenthe Southold Town Trustees and
Southold Town Planning Board and receipt of the requested information from
the applicant.
On a motion made by Ralph Condit, seconded by Betty Wells, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees approval with stipulations
of Wetland Application No. 522 submitted by Michael S. Gillilund to build
a new single family dwelling. The Council approves with the stipulation
that it be mandatory that applicant does not disturb the natural vegetation
buffer between the house and bluff except for clearing a pathway to the
beach.
Sound Drive, Greenport.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
On a motion made by Heather Cusack, seconded by Ralph Condit, ti was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees approval with stipulations
Wetland Applicatiaon No. 527 submitted by The Land Use Company on behalf
of Mr. and Mrs. John land to replace a 3' x 20'dilapidated caatwalk with
a 4' x 65' fixed dock leading to a 3' x 15' ramp and 6' x 20 float dock.
Said fixed dock shall be elevated a minimum of 4'over existing vegetation.
The Council approves provided the project does not disturb the spartina
wetland and care is used around the naatural vegetation.
190 Oak Street, Cutchogue.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
On a motion made by Ralph Condit, seconded by John Holzapfel, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees approval of Wetland
Application No. 528 submitted by The Land Use Company on behalf of Mr, and
Mrs. Alan Watson to construct a 4' x 20; fixed dock leading to a 3' x 16'
rampand two 5' x 20' floats.
Wells Road, Peconic.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
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On a motion made byRalph Condit, seconded by John Tuthill, ti was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees approval of Wetland
ApplicationNo. 529 submitted by Hide-A- Way Boat Basin to build a floating
dock for private use consisting of steps plus 8' x 4' ramp 60' x 4' walkway
(2) 16' x 3' T floats, (2) 18' x 3' T floats, 13 pilings.
West finger of Mattituck Creek, Mattituck.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
On a Motion made by Rlaph Condit, seconded by John Holzapfel, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold TYown Trustees approval of Wetland
Application No. 530 submitted by The Land Use Company on behalf of West
Lake Association to maintenance dredge an 85' x 60' area to a depth of 4'
at MEW. Resultant spoil to be trucked to an upland location.
Lake Drive at West Lake, Southold.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
On a Motion made by John HOlzapfel, seconded by Ralph Condit, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees approval of Wetland
Applilcaiton No. 531 submitted by En-Consultants, Inc. on behalf of Alex-
ander Koke to construct a timber dock off existing bulkhead consisting of:
4' x 4' fixed platform, 3' c 16' hinged ramp, (3) 6' x 20' floats secured
by (4)8" diameter pilings (on inside) . Over all project involves construc-
tion of a house,pool, sanitary system, bluestone driveway, estension of
berm parallel to bulkhead and approximately 40' fromit. Only aspect of
the overall project the applicant is applying for in the Wetland Application
is the berm and filling (overall amount 3500± c.y. ) .
Pine Neck and North Bayview Road, Southold.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
On a motion made by John Tuthill, seconded by Ralph Condit, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Tr5ustees approval of Wetland
Applicaiton No. 532 submitted byJ. H. Geideman on behalf of Gardiners Bay
Property Owners Association to construct a bulkhead 3' landward of MHW
totie into existing bulkhead on the northend and to remove the existing
catwalk on the property::.
Foot of Orchard Lane, East Marion.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
On a motion made by John Tuthill, seconded by Betty Wells, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees approval of Wetland
Application No. 533 submitted by Yan H. Rieger to construct a low profile
timber retaining wall above HWL and fill 60± c.y.
370 Harbor Road, Orient.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried
On a motion made byRalph Condit, seconded by John Tuhtill, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Tustees approval with qualifications
Wetland Application No. 534 submitted by Daniel F. DRagonetti for Peter
Fakiris (Gusamr Realty Corp. ) to construct a 200' long dock, 4' wide for
private docking facility of pleasure craft,secured by 36 pilings. This
part of the application has the Council's approval. The amendment to the
application to include approximately 800 c.y. of upland fill and approxi-
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17' of bulkhead is disapproved by the Council. The Council has not problem
with the dock but feel the bulkhead is not needed. The Council suggests
the applicant extend the ramp from the base of the dock up further and that
would eliminate the need for the bulkheading. The CAC does not approve
of the bulkhead because there are no other bulkheads in the area and the
bulkhead could create erosion problems.
Shipyard Lane, East Marion.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
On a motion made by Ralph Condit, seconded by John Tuthill, ti was
RESOLVED ro recommend to the Southold Town Trustees approval with stipulations
Wetland Application No. 536 submitted by John C. W. Campbell to clear a
lot for building a single family residence. The Council approves provided
that a 50' natural vegetation buffer is maintained between the house area.
and bulkhead.
Harbor Lights Drive, Southold.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
DISTRIBUTION OF NEW APPLICATIONS
No. 537 - Frederic J. Bruce on behalf of Wunneweta Pond Assocation -
Maintenance dredge entrance to Wunneweta Pond to depth of 6'
MLW.
Cutchogue Harbor
Ralph Condit inspection
No. 538 - Howard R. Brower, Jr. - Install. a floating dock 6' x 20' secured
by 2 galvanized pipes and installation of 30' ramp.
1170 Eugene's Road, Cutchogue.
Heather Cusack inspection
** No. 539 - . William Pymm - To construct a single family residence, pool with
decking and sanitary system. Also to construct a 4' x 20' fixed
(elevated over grade) leading to a 3' x 8' ramp and.a 6' x 20'.
float dock.
Reeve Road., Mattituck.
Group inspection
No. 540 - Joseph Perricone - To construct a timber dock consisting of a
4' x 15' fixed elevated (4' above. grade of marsh) walkway; '4'
x. 14' hinged ramp; (2) 6' x 12' floats secured by (4) iron pipes._
605 Leeward Drive, Southold.
John Holzapfel inspection.
" No. 541 - William F. Beal - Devegetate and fill to grade in order to construct
a house.
New Suffolk Avenue, New Suffolk.
Group inspection
** No. 543 - Christopher Conners -. ,Construct a single family dwelling.
350 West Drive, Southold.
Group inspection
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** No. 544 - Mario V. Cella - Construction of 110' rock Bulkhead.
North Sea Drive & Long Island Sound, Orient.
Group Inspection
** No. 545 - Jeanne E. Martin - Construction of 110' rock bulkhead with 12'
return.
North Sea Drive 8 Long Island Sound, Orient.
Group inspection
** No. 546 - Emanuel Piperakis 8 Others - Construciton of 110' rock bulkhead
with 12' return.
North Sea Drive 8 Long Island Sound, Orient.
Group inspection
No. 547 - Richard Fiedler - Remove and replace existing bulkhead.
1380 Beach Road, Greenport.
John Tuthill
** No. 548 - Pat Cicorelli - Construct a one-family house, decks, bluestone
(or similar pervious) driveway, sanitary system as shown on submitted
survey. Approximately 700 c.y. of fill will be trucked in to raise
grade.
Group inspection
No. 549 - '-Benjamin L. Sokobin - Erect low profile retaining wall to stabilize
erosion damage.
Harbor Road, Orient.
John Tuthill inspection.
No. 550 - Ernest Guettinger - Remove 8' x. 16' existing float - replace with
one 6' x 12' and. one 8' x 32' floats to a/.c shallow water silting.
Oak Street, Cutchogue.
Betty Wells Inspection
No. 551 - Walter Smith - Repair an:'existing inclined boat ramp of irregular
dimensions as shown on work plan. Repairs will consist of removal
and replacement of side walls, decking, tie-rods, supports pilings,
etc.
370 Williamsburg Drive, Southold.
Daniel Kujawski inspection.
No. 552 - James Long - Construct a 36' x 4' catwalk, a 3' x 10' ramp and
8' x 24' float.
#32 Oak Street's/0 Pierce Drive, Cutchogue.
BettyWells inspection
** Denotes Group Inspections =-
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DISCUSSION
The Council discussed the Suffolk County dredging projects which have and
will be taking place in Southold Town. The requested the secretary to find
out if the Council could obtain a list of the dredging projects and when
the projects would take place.
The Council also discussed the matter of Waivers being issued by the Southold
Town Trustees. This matter will be investigated further.
NEST MEETING AND INSPECTION DATES
The next regular meeting of the Southold Town Conservation Adviosry Council
is scheduled for Thursday, July 16, 1987 at 7:30 P.M. at the Southold Town
Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York.
Group inspections are set for Thursday, July 16,1987. The Council members
will meet at the Southold Town Hall at 3:00 P.M.
There being no further business to come before the Council, on a motion
made by John Tuthill, seconded by Ralph Condit, it was
RESOLVED to adjourn the meeting of the Southold Town Conservation Advisory
Council at 8:55 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Linda J. Cooper, Secretary
RECEIVED AND FILED BY
THE SOUTHOLD TOWN CLERIC
DATE—//�'—K-7HOUR 9-��l
Town Clerk, Town of Southold
Attachment 1
THE CONSERVATI. ADVISORY COUNCILS ..IN NEW .,.,RK STATE HAVE AS THEIR
PRIME OBJECTIVE: To promote the intelligent use of New York's
natural resources through .education and action which will provide and
protect a wholesome environment for every citizen of the State
The CAC advises on environmental matters, promotes conservation of our
finite resources, and educates the public to the fact that pollution
and depletion of natural resources costs the taxpayers money.
The Cac speaks as a united voice, provides consulatation services,
and develops educational materialsfor their specific areas.
In Southold Town, we are guided in decision making by the WetlandsOrdins
and the Southold Town Code and the goals of the Master Plan and Coastal
Plan, and the Andros Patent
The Andros Patent authorized the annual election of trustees for "Free-
holders and Commonalty" and entrusted them with unappropriated lands,
including marshes, beaches, harbors, inlets and creeks to be held for
"the use, benefit and advantages" of the residents and taxpayers, their
heirs and successors... The original premise indicates that the Trustees
were responsible to maintain the public trust rather than to enhance thei
private profit. ' This is the Stewardship concept .
In recent years, the concept benefitting the public interest appears to
have been badly eroded because local governments have regarded the water-
front areas. as primarly a substrate ripe for private development and
profit rather than for the public good.
Enlightened local governments define "highest and best use of land" as
to be measured by the effect of such use on the quality of life in the
community rather than by the highest economic return to the developer.
There are substatntial citations in the Albany law review publication
on the SEQRA process which prove that govt . policies promoting stewar:dsh
of natural resources hold up in court . The CAC, as an advisory body,
should continue to advise Town officials to make a public commitment
to preserving and protecting the Town' s environment because so much of
the Town' s economy depends on a sound environment . Protection of
private property rights can be considered in accordance with overall
consideration of the public health and protection of resources which
are necessary for the public health (groundwater, etc . ) Resource
management decisions must take into account growth and current and
future needs and inherent characteristics and carrying capacities of the
area. The CAC should encourage govt . officials to use resource inventori
in making land use and development decisions.
Attachment 2
CAC ' ,NDA 1987-89 Ji
1. Enforce Wetlands Ordinance by advising on applications. To do . this
appropriately, it would be helpful to have an inventory on all wetland
areas and a set of overlay ,maps. If we accept that the future quality
of life in Southold Town is dependent in large part upon the quality of
its marine environment, -then we must realize that increased activity in t
coastal zone (50% of the Town) will result in a drastic increase in pollu
tion and loss of those recreational pleasure which contribute to the
quality of life, and make. our decisions accordingly.
2. Establish policies to help obtain our prime objective: Preserve and
ensure water sheds, water- tables, wetlands, beaches, bluffs, flora & .faun
fish and shellfish.
3. Educate the public as to the economic benefits of a sound .environment.
Educate waterfront owners, bluff owners and developers.
4. Continue to work in coalition with the Peconic Bay Emergency. Action
Coalition for -solutions to the Brown Tide and a Peconic Estuary Study and
Management Plan which addresses the bays and creeks as a system
5. Recommend policies to address: Dock-o-miniums; water recreational
needs; protection of waterways from pollution/traffic.
6. Continue to recommend acquisition of property by all levels of govt. t
a. Preserve waterfront and open space
b. Prevent saltwater intrusion into groundwater
c. Provide public access to beaches and .water
d. Reduce pollution of bays, creeks, and wetlans from point and non-point
sources.
Sd s guide for above- see Wish List for E BA.
6.- Work with other agencies and organizations to educate public and
govt. officials on conservation programs for protection of our resources
and environment. (Water conservation, Recycling, etc..)
7. Monitor and Make Recommendations on:
a. Southold Master Plan and Zoning Amendments
2. Coastal Management Plan - Coastal Waterfront Revitalization Program
8. Continue to work toward identifying run-off..
9. Continue to oversee waterfront development such as:
Young's Marina, Marina Bay Club (proposed) , . S.trongs Marina 1988 expansion
Narrow River Marina, Broadwaters Cove Area
10. Continue to monitor water pollution problems and call to attention
of Town officials : Bottom paint; marine sanitation; oil & gas spills
Attachment 3
CAC AGENDA (cont. ) -2-
11. Continue to Monitor- and- Educate re: L.I . Sound Study and
Trends and Issues (see folder)
12. Work with DEC, Town Planner, .etc. to carry out CAC purpose
13. Join NYSACC -
14. On Going Programs of CAC Involvement
STOP, LI Sound Study, Peconic Bay Coalition, Coast Week
Protection pf wetlands, Groundwater education; meeting
with Riverhead& Shelter Island CACs.