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SOUTHOLD TOWN
CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL
JANUARY 24 , 1989
4 : 30 P.M.
A meeting of the Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council
was held Tuesday, January 24 , 1989 at the Southold Town Hall,
Main Road, Southold, New York 11971 .
Present were: John Holzapfel, Chairman
John Tuthill, Member
Betty Wells , Member
Daniel Kujawski, Member
Margaret Feeney, Member
Bruce Loucka, Member
Linda Cooper, Secretary
The meeting was called to order at 4 : 35 P.M. by Chairman
John Holzapfel. He began the meeting by discussing a study the
CAC would like to have done to determine the extent of use of
plastic bags by local businesses . It was suggested that the
Council could contact young men wishing to earn their Eagle Scout
Public Service Badge to survey retail stores in the town. Margaret
Feeney also suggested that her husband ' s Economics class may
be utilized also. Daniel Kujawski would head the study with
assistance from Margaret Feeney.
The survey would be part of a project to encourage the use
of biodegradable "plastic bags" .
Betty Wells suggested the Council consider the use of "spin
wheels ' to inform the public about the use and disposal of hazard-
ous materials found and used around the house. She reported
that Supervisor Murphy had recieved a sample of the wheel. Chairman
Holzapfel requested that Betty Wells check into the matter further
to determine costs , etc.
DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATION"OF WETLAND APPLICATIONS
On a motion by John Tuthill, seconded by Margaret Feeney, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees approval
with stipulations of Wetland Application No. 11-88-104-13-5
of Enconsultants , Inc. for Kenneth and Christine Rathgeber to
remove and replace ( in same locations and configuration )
211± l. f. of retaining wall which is to connect to existing walls
to north and south. The figure includes sections around exist-
ing concrete block "bath house" which is being undermined.
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Approximately 1 , 490 c.y, of clean sand and loam to be trucked
in from an upland source to be used as backfill and rehabili-
tation of existing eroded slope. Following grading, slope is
to be planted with such species as Rosa rugosa, bayberry,
beachgrass , etc, to stabilize. The Council approves with
the stipulation that applicant put the retaining wall in line
with the neighbors ' , install drywells to contain roof run-
off, and suggest , if necessary, terrace the sloping area.
Nassau Point road, Cutchogue.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
On a motion by John Tuthill, seconded by Bruce Loucka, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees approval
with stipulations of Wetland Application No. 11-88-104-8-1 . 1
of Connie Cross for Environmentals Nursery to install two
10 ' x 30 ' bermed areas, with natural rock outcroppings and
appropriate plantings at entrance to Nassau Point . Teh Council
approves with the stipulation that the applicant limit the
height of the berm to no higher than 2 ' .'
Nassau Point Road, causeway area, at Nassau Point property line,
Cutchogue.
Vote of Council: Ayes : All
Motion carried.
On a motion by John Holzapfel, seconded by Bruce Loucka, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees approval
of Wetland Application No. 11-88-136-1-41/42 of James E.
Fitzgerald Jr. for Ira Wechterman to construct a wood deck
attached to the house extending to line of retaining wall;
construct walkway 34 ' x 3 ' , hinged ramp 12 ' x 3 ' , and floating
dock 12 ' x 41 ; install two piles: to••sec.ure_ floating dock.
630 Oak Street , Cutchogue.
Vote of Council: - Ayes: All
Motion carried.
On a motion byJohn Holzapfel, seconded by Bruce Loucka, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Trustees approval
with a stipulation of Wetland Applicaiton No. 680 of En-
Consultants , Inc. for Lew Edson to construct a one-family
dwelling, sanitary system, deck, bluestone driveway, and
well, as shown on submitted plans . (No additional fill to
be required. ) The Council approves with the stipulation that
no clearing be done within 50 ' of the water e.,;cept for a
footpath to allow the owner access to the water.
Cedar Point Drive West , Southold.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
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DISTRIBUTION OF NEW APPLICATIONS
No. 11-88-78-2-42 of Joseph J. Verwayen to construct a private
boat dock consisting of fixed ele--ated ( 3 ' above grade of marsh)
catwalk, hinged ramp and two floats secured by pilings .
2750 Glenn Road, Southold.
John Holzapfel inspection
No. 11-88-113-6-11 of Enconsultants , Inc. for Gerald Wood to
construct a timber dock consisting of a 4 ' x 104 ' fixed elevated
(minimum 3 .5 ' ) walk with outer 5 ' x 36 ' "L" to west . Imi ler end
of dock will be approximately in line with two existing timber
pilings and 15 ' west of them. Proposed dock will extend a distance
equal to existing adjacent dock to east .
Holbrook Lane, Mattituck
Margaret Feeney inspection.
No. 1-'1-89-127-68 of John and Eleanor Bastone to construct a
floating dock and landing.
1810 N. Oakwood Road, Laurel.
Margaret Feeney inspection.
No. 10-88-123-4-5 of Thomas Palmer to build (replace ) 53 ' x 3 '
catwalk and 16 ' x 8 ' float and additional work to dwelling consist-
ing of 12 ' k';37 ' wood deck to rear of dwelling, 8 ' x 37 ' extension
and 11 ' x 22 ' garage to front of dwelling and ,move existing
8.4 ' x 8.4 ' shed to west side of lot further from HWM.
Deep Hole Drive, Mattituck.
Margaret Feeney inspection.
SET NEXT MEETING DATE
The next regular meeting of the Southold Town Conservation
Council was scheduled for Thursday, February 16 , 1989 at13 : 30 P.M.
at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, New York.
Since there were no group inspections scheduled, the Council
did not set up a time and date for group inspections .
GENERAL DISCUSSIONS
Chairman Holzapfel discussed the budget and State Aid
application with the members. Ifuthe=-State'_application is approved,
vouchers will haver�to be submitted for ,reimbursement . The Council
suggested that the paid position which the Town Board approved
should include being responsible for submitting the vouchers.
John Holzapfel will check with the Supervisor or Town Board for
a redefinition of the position which the CAC had entered into its
budget .
Chairman Holzapfel intends to check with the Suffolk County
Department of Health Services to ascertain how the new Italian
restaurant located on the bay was able to install a cesspool
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which is virtually in the water.
Mr. Holzapfel also intends to check with the Town assessors
to determine if docks and bulkheads are being assessed. Since
the structures can improve the value of a piece of property
by thousands of dollars, it is felt that some of the property
tax burden should be shared by the structures . Margaret Feeney
stated that New York State law provides for the assessment of
this type of structure -on private property. John Holzapfel had
checked with several towns and found that most west end towns and
Riverhead assess the.--structures .
Chairman Holzapfel suggested the Council pursue the road
runoff problem. Since many recent studies have determined that
road runoff has been a major contributor to water pollution,
more should be done by the town to alleviate the problem. The
biggest stumbling block was lack of funds. John Holzapfel would
like to see a referendum of some sort to finance the repairs.
He was advised that an engineer would have to do a study to deter-
mine the cost for the repairs . Also to be checked into is the
availibilty of funds to use in the clean up. He asked members to
think about how to approach the problem and to obtain the funding:
Margaret Feeney reported she had been in contact with Steve
Sanford of the NYSDEC regarding the freshwater wetland maps .
Although the target date for the maps was October 1988 , the
project has run into some problems and the State cannot give any
target dateat this point . Since Daniel Kujawski had attended the
course for understanding aerial maps , it was decided that he
would review the towns ' s aerial maps to determine whether any
new freshwater areas could be located for inclusion .in the state ' s
list
Discussion moved into the CAC ' s role with the Zoning Board of
Appeals and the Planning Board. Although a letter was sent to the
ZBA to advise it that the CAC would be available, that Board has
not requested the services of the Council. Since the juridiction
of the Sound has been removed from the Town Trustees and nplaced
solely under the ZBA, the Council assumed the ZBA would require
recommendations and opinions from the Council. It was decided that
Margaret Feeney would act as liason between the CAC and ZBA,
receiving the minutes and agendas to determine if any environmentally
sensitive issues are before that board.
Along the same lines, Bruce Loucka would concentrate on actions
before the Planning Board of Appeals and will advise the Council
of any sensitve applications before that Board.
Chairman Holzapfel shared infugmation concerning the problem
of inground oil tanks and the possibilities of leakage. He will
study the subject further and report back to the Council.
John Tuthill suggested the Council,-request the Town Board
appoint a farmer to the position on the Council which was recently
vacated by Heather Tetrault . Members felt that they were not in
a position to make recommendations to the Town Board about the
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replacement , but suggested Mr. Tuthill urge any interested farmers
to apply.
Mr. Tuthill brought up the subject of the Core Watershed
Protection Area study being done by the Water Advisory Committee.
He stated that Transfer Development Rights concept should not
be considered unless they are bonded in such a way that the
holder of a TDR would be guarenteed just compensation for his
development rights. Also, he suggested that the TDR folder be
protected against any loss of value for the TDR due to any up-
zoning which could occur in the Town. He suggested that both
of the matters should be addressed by the Water Advisory Council
before proceeding any further. .
Chairman Holzapfel discussed the Marine Bay Club progress
with the Council. Although he represented only himself at a
recent meeting concerning the Marina Bay Club, several newspapers
identified him as a member of the CAC . Heoadvised the Council
that he had brought up three major concerns at the meeting:
1. Desalinization and the problems which coucl arise from
heavy saltwater settling in the bottom of the bay in that
area.
2 . The applicants would like to move the dock out approximately
150 ' into the bay. The section to be involved is an
excellent scalloping area.
3 . Blots used as- houseboats
Before adjourning, John Holzapfel-,gave a brief list of
projects and tasks the Council would be undertaking before the next
meeting. Among those already discussed, he also mentioned that
Betty Wells was to compose a letter to send to the groups
she had listed for an earlier project . Also she would be checking
with the pump-out committee and reporting back to the Council
any progress being made.
There being no further business to come before the Council,
the meeting was adjourned at 6 : 00 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Linda J. Cooper, Secretary