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SOUTHOLD -TOWN
CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, AUGUST 24, 1995
4:00 P.M
A meeting of the Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council was held
Thursday, August 24, 1995 at 4:00 P.M. at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road,
Southold, New York.
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Stephen Angell.
Present were: Stephen Angell, Chairman
Bruce Loucka, Member
John Hagerty III, Member
Betty Wells, Member
Linda Cooper, Secretary
Absent were: Robert Keith, Member
Allan Connell, Member
CAC member Patricia Isaksen has resigned and the seventh member will soon be
appointed by the Southold Town Board.
REPORTS
There has been little activity with the CAC during the past month. Chairman
Angell attended the Trustees' July meeting. Bruce. Loucka did water
sampling once during June.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Moved by Stephen Angell, seconded by John Hagerty, it was
RESOLVED to approve the minute of July 19, 1995 as submitted.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
RECOMMENDATIONS OF WETLAND APPLICATIONS
No. 1225
Moved by Stephen Angell, seconded by John Hagerty, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees APPROVAL
of the Wetland Application of JOHN H. M.ULHOLLAND AND MICHAEL P.
BONTJE 57-2-23 & 24 to maintenance dredge to 3' below MLW on Mulholland
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and Bontje parcels (privately owned bottom), dewater spoil on site and then
move to upland site on Island View Lane with owners permission. Also to add
and restore 3' x 30' open pile dock to Mulholland and twin pilings to each on
remnant piles near waters edge of Mulholland property.
725 and 802 Island View Lane, Greenport
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
No. 1278 - TABLED 7/19/95
Moved by Stephen Angell, seconded by Bruce Loucka, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees APPROVAL
WITH STIPULATION of the Wetland Application of GERALD RUPP 51-1-21 to
construct 80 feet of timber bulkhead approximately 23 feet landward of the mean
high water mark. One hundred (100) cubic yards of clean fill will be utilized
to backfill between the existing bluff and bulkhead. Bulkhead will tie into
neighbors to the east and west as per revised survey dated August 9 1995..
CAC recommends approval with the stipulation that the fill area be planted with
American Beach Grass. Also, the brush and trees currently being removed
should not be. thrown over the bluff and any brush already thrown over the
bluff be removed.
Sound View Ave., Southold
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
No. 1279 - TABLED 7/19/95
Moved by Stephen Angell, seconded by Bruce Loucka, it was
,RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees APPROVAL
WITH PROVISIONS of the Wetland Application of WILLIAM TURNBULL 52-1-1
to construct 160 +/- I.f. of stone revetment against eroded bank and backfill
with 85 +/- c.y. of clean sand to be trucked in form upland source. Construct
a 4' x 30' stairway to connect to existing platform and stairs for pedestrian
access over revetment.
The CAC recommends approval provided that after reburying the revetment, all
fill be planted with beachgrass. Also the Trustees should require the
applicant to keep structure maintained and buried.
54005 North Road, Southold.-
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
No. 1281 - TABLED 7/19/95
Moved by Stephen Angell, seconded by Betty Wells, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees APPROVAL
of the Wetland Application of LOUIS BACON 134-3-5 to , construct two .board
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walkways for the purpose of crossing areas of intertidal marsh as located by
the staff of the NYSDEC. The northern most walk shall be 18" x 147' and be
constructed 18" over grade of the marsh. The southern most walk shall be 18"
x 112' and be constructed 18" over the grade of the marsh.
Robins Island.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
No. 1282
Moved by Stephen Angell, seconded by Betty Wells,_ it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees APPROVAL
of the Wetland Application of WILLIAM M. and MARIA SCHENONE 114-7-11.3
to construct a 4' x 140' walk, 3' x 50' elevated catwalk, 3' x 18' ramp, 6' x
10' float and 6' x 20' float to be anchored by (4) 10" x 30' piles.
Westphalia Road, Mattituck
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
No. 1283
Moved by Stephen Angell, seconded by- John Hagerty, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees APPROVAL
of the Wetland Application of MATTITUCK PARK COMMISSION 126-5-11 to
reconstruct two (2) deteriorated timber jetties (115' and 174 ) in kind/in
place.
The CAC recommends approval but questions why the application fee is being
waived. It appears inappropriate that the Park District fee should be waived
since it is not beneficial to all town residents.
Peconic Bay Blvd. and Bay Avenue Road, Mattituck
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
No. 1284
Moved by Stephen Angell, seconded by Betty Wells, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees APPROVAL
of the Wetland , Application of MATTITUCK PARK COMMISSION 126-6-17 E 18
to reconstruct existing deteriorated timber jetty (125' in length) in kind/in
place.
The CAC recommends approval but questions why the application fee is being
waived. It appears inappropriate that the Park District fee should be waived
since it is not beneficial to all town residents.
Peconic Bay Blvd., Mattituck
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Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
No. 1285
Moved by Stephen Angell, seconded by John Hagerty, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees APPROVAL
WITH SUGGESTIONS of the Wetland Application of DR. SELIM SAMAAM
111-9-10 to removed debris from face of bluff and construct at toe 190 +/-
l.f. retaining wall and two (2) 8 I.f. returns. Restore bluff with
approximately 500 c.y. of clean sand and place 2' thick layer of 12"-18" quarry
stone on filter cloth between retaining wall and existing timber bulkhead.
The CAC recommends approval but suggests that a buffer or berm is needed at
the top of the bluff to control runoff from the lawn. The CAC suggests the
Trustees request the Soil Conservation supply a plan 'to divert the runoff.,
4875 Nassau Point Road, Cutchogue
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
No. 1286
Moved by Stephen Angell, seconded by John Hagerty, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees APPROVAL
WITH STIPULATIONS of the Wetland Application of WILLIAM ELS 72-1-1.10 to
construct a 160' retaining wall with 40' angled return on west side. Wail to
be connected to landward endof return to east. Structure to be armored with
1 +/- ton stone on filter cloth; and backfilled with 375 c.y. of sand to be
trucked in from Duck Pond Road to west. A 41. x 170' stairway with two (2) 4'
x 8' platforms to be built for access to beach.
The Council "recommends approval, provided that applicant bury the bulkhead as
per Trustees most recent bulkhead policy and plant fill with beachgrass;
elevate stairs to an adequate height to allow vegetation to grow.
ROW off Bridge Lane and Oregon Road, Cutchogue,
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
No. 1287
-Moved by Bruce Loucka, seconded by John Hagerty, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees APPROVAL
WITH STIPULATIONS of the Wetland Application of ELINO U. DENA, JR.
73-5-1 to install 281 +/- I.f. of steel retaining wall . as close to toe of
existing eroded slope as is feasible to install tieback system. Backfill with
1200 +/- c.y. of clean fill to be trucked in from upland source and place a
stone splash pad 12 +/- landward of wall.. Repair (or replace as necessary 31'
wide stairways and platforms to provide pedestrian access to beach.
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The Council . recommends approval with the recommendation that the retaining
wall be placed the toe of the bluff and the fill planted with beachgrass.
The CAC suggests the Trustees explore the possibility of burying a bulkhead.
ROW off Route 48, Southold
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
No. 1288
Moved by Bruce Loucka, seconded by John Hagerty, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees APPROVAL
WITH CLARIFICATIONS of the Wetland Application of ANN KWASNESKI
71-1-10 to reconstruct within 18", 100 +/- of timber bulkhead, to construct a
24' return along western property line and to backfill structure with 20 +/-
c.y. of clean sand to be trucked in from an upland source.
The CAC recommends approval of the bulkhead. According to the submitted
diagram, it appears the applicant wants to reconstruct walkways, if so, the
Council recommends approval of the walkway behind the bulkhead, but, the
walkway located by the middle groin be disapproved. There -is not need shown
and the structure should not be on the beach.
North Parish Road, Southold
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
No. 1289
Moved by Bruce Loucka, seconded by John Hagerty, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold. Town Board of Trustees APPROVAL
of the Wetland Application of DOROTHY LUDECKER 87-5-2 to construct a 3' x
48' catwalk, (elevated 3 1/2' over grade of marsh), 3' x 14' ramp, 6' x 20'
float, and two (2) pile dolphins.
ROW off Main Bayview Road, Southold
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
No. 1290
Moved by Bruce Loucka, seconded by Stephen Angell, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to -the Southold Town Board of Trustees
DISAPPROVAL of the Wetland Application of WILLIAMD AND CHRISTOPHER
CONNORS 59-5-29.3 to construct a single family dwelling.
The CAC recommends disapproval for the following reasons
1 . Project is located on Wetlands
2. Lot size is inadequate.
3. 670 of the lot is wetlands.
4. Located in flood zone.
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5. Shallow watertable - septic system could impact the groundwater.
350 West Drive, Southold
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
No. 1291
Moved by Bruce Loucka, seconded by Stephen Angell, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees
DISAPPROVAL of the Wetland Application of GERARD H. BELLESHEIM
15-3-9 to construct 100' of bulkhead (as per plan) .
The CAC recommends disapproval as submitted. - The Council suggests a rock
revetment as per the DEC letter of July 14, 1995 or bury the bulkhead as per
Trustees' policy for bulkheads on the Sound.
122 Sound View Drive, Orient
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
No. 1292
Moved by Bruce Loucka, seconded by John Hagerty, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board` of Trustees APPROVAL
WITH PROVISIONS of the Wetland Application of WILLIAM J. AND MARK S.
McDONALD 135-1-5 to rebuild existing bulkhead and replace existing decks,
stairs, etc. as necessary
The Council recommends approval with the provision that a non-turf buffer on
the embankment be installed to prevent further erosion.
21515 Soundview Avenue, Southold
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
No. 1293
Moved by Bruce Loucka, seconded by Betty Wells, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees APPROVAL
WITH STIPULATIONS of the Wetland Application of THOMAS APREA, SR.
37-7-9.1 to construct 190' +/- of upland retaining walls and to reconstruct in
kind in place 60' of timber groin and 20' of timber groin.
The Council recommends approval the groin reconstruction for the 25' groin as
submitted. The 60' groin should be cut back to equal the length of those to
the east. The CAC recommends approval of the retaining walls only if the fill
has been placed there legally, if the fill has not been legally placed then
the fill should be removed and there would then be no need for the retaining
walls.
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Beach Court, East Marion
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
RECOMMENDATION OF WAIVER REQUESTS
WR-23
Moved by Stephen Angell, seconded by Bruce Loucka, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees DENIAL of
the Waiver Request of SALLY GUIDO 73-5-20 to raise house and construct an
addition and deck as shown on submitted survey.
The CAC recommends denial of the Waiver Request because the project could
have an impact on the bay without the proper protections required by the
Trustees. If a waiver were granted the Trustees would not have jurisdiction to
protect the bay. By denying the waiver, the Trustees could require a permit
and require the standard protections of hay bales, silt fences, runoff
containment, etc. Should the Trustees require a permit, the. CAC would not
object to the project provided the standard protection were required.
Bay Shore Road, Southold
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
WR-24
Moved by Stephen Angell, seconded by Bruce Loucka, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees DENIAL of
the Waiver Request of MR. and MRS. RICHARD DRAKE JR. 139-3-35 to erect
8' x 10' utility shed.
The' CAC recommends denial of the waiver request because it allows the
Trustees to relinquish their jurisdiction over the project. The CAC would
approve the project if it were a Wetland Application provided there was a
stipulation that the shed not be used for storage of any pollutants (such as,
but not limited to oil, gas, paints, insecticides and herbicides) which could
possibly pollute the creek.
65 Freeman Road, Mattituck
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
WR-25
Moved by Stephen Angell, seconded by Bruce Loucka, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees APPROVAL
of the Waiver Request of ARTHUR HAF 103-10-25 to construct a split rail
fence.
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1020 Strohson Road, Cutchogue
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
RECOMMENDATION OF AMENDMENT TO PERMIT
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Moved by Stephen Angell, seconded by Bruce Loucka, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees APPROVAL
of the Amendment Request of ROBERT J. and PATRICIA F. MELCHIONE
77-1-8 to extend dock from 60' x 216" to 70' x 3'. Permit issued 6/4/73.
Oak Avenue, ,Southold
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
RECOMMENDATION OF GRANDFATHER PERMITS
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Moved by Stephen Angell, seconded by Bruce Loucka, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees APPROVAL
of the Grandfather Permit of THE ELEANOR S. NOHE REVOCABLE TRUST
118-2-6.2 for wood. bulkhead and wood dock.
Bridge Lane, Cutchogue
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
GF-6
Moved by Betty Wells, seconded by Stephen Angell, it was .
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees APPROVAL
WITH CONDITIONS of the Grandfather Permit of GEORGE W. KOCH 31-18-6
to replace all existing deteriorated cedar poles under building that was built
approx. 1932
The Council recommends approval provided applicant uses hay bales and silt
fence around the bulkhead during construction and care be taken not to allow
silt or sediment to wash into the adjacent tidal waters.
270 Rabbit Lane, East Marion
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion carried.
EXTENSION REQUEST
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Moved by Stephen Angell, seconded by John Hagerty, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees APPROVAL
OF A ONE-YEAR EXTENSION for CLEAVES POINT VILLAGE, #4224 _
Vote of Council:. Ayes: All
Motion carried.
The next meeting .of the Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council has been
scheduled for THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 21, 1995 at 4:00 P.M. at Southold
Town Hall.
Respectfully submitted,
Linda J. Cooper, Secretary
Southold Town
Conservation Advisory Council
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