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SOUTHOLD TOWN
CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 16, 1999
5:30 PM
A meeting of the Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council was held Tuesday, February
16, 1999 at 5:30 PM in the Conference Room at Southold Town Hall, 53095 Main Road,
Southold, New York
Present were: Scott Hilary, Chairman
Melvyn Morris, Member
Richard Smith, Member
Bret Hedges, Member
Mary Griffin, Member
Kenneth Meskill, Member
CHAIRMAN'S ANNOUNCEMENTS
Scott Hilary reminded the members that there will be a meeting with the Trustees on March 3,
1999 at 5:00 PM in the Meeting Hall.
Interviews for a Youth Member will be conducted on February 23, 1999 at 4:00 PM in the
Conference Room.
The SAC meeting with be held on Thursday, February 18, 1999 in the Conference Room if
anyone would like to attend.
Scott mentioned that Lloyd Harbor CAC has invited the Southold CAC to attend their next
meeting if anyone was interested.
REPORTS
Richard Smith reported that he attended the last SAC meeting. One of the topics was the
possibility of putting a moratorium on shellfish licenses. He also wanted to make a change to the
mailing of the SAC notices. All notices should be mailed to him now instead of Scott.
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Bret Hedges reported that Kevin McAllister, the baykeeper, would like to get together with the
CAC.
Mary Hedges mentioned that there will be a dinner on Thursday, March 4, 1999 hosted by the
Long Island Geologists.
Ken Meskill stated that he would like to have some assistance with the water sampling. If
anyone could help him transport the samples to Setauket, it would be greatly appreciated.
Ken also mentioned that if anyone has a chance, to take a look at the project on Jamesport Town
Beach on the north side of the road and the project on Peconic Bay Blvd.
Ken also commented on the article in the NY Times regarding the Heron. The NYSACC
Newsletter contained many interesting articles which if anyone has the time, should read.
Ken mentioned that the osprey poles will be going up at the end of February and volunteers are
needed.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Moved by Melvyn Morris, seconded by Scott Hilary to approve the Minutes of January 19, 1999,
as submitted.
Vote of Council: Ayes. All
Motion Carried
Moved by Scott Hilary, seconded by Richard Smith to draft a letter to Jim McMahon supporting
the proposal for the Nature Preserve.
Vote of Council: Ayes. All
Motion Carried
RECOMMENDATION OF WETLAND PERMIT AND COASTAL EROSION PERMIT
APPLICATIONS
FRANK B. & VIRGINIA A. ZIMMER 19-1-18.3 to construct a 4'X 40' dock on the east side
of the 77 acre farm property on Little Bay. Size of boat is 21' which draws maximum of 1 '/z' of
water depth.
34600 Main Road, Orient
The CAC did not make an inspection, therefore, it has no comment. However, the following
concerns were expressed:
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1. The impact the dock would have on the shellfish beds.
2. Question on whether or not the State owns the wetlands.
3. Navigational concern.
4. Unclear of dock location.
Moved by Scott Hilary, seconded by Ken Meskill it was
RESOVLED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees APPROVAL WITH
STIPULATION of the Wetland Permit Application of CHERYL HANSEN 78-5-3 to replace
with new 112 linear ft. of southerly bulkhead within 23" seaward and 25" higher than south
bulkhead; replace in-kind and in-place 147 linear ft. of bulkhead along east side at same height;
widen existing boat slip by excavating 9'X 25' section bulkhead-upland area and construct new
bulkhead at walls; backfill bulkheads with 100 c.y. of excavated material. Return lawn area to
level ground (filling depressions where necessary behind excavated bulkhead); related activities
to finish project.
446 Elizabeth Lane, Southold
The CAC recommends approval with the following stipulations:
1. The construction not exceed seaward into the wetland/marsh bottom.
2. Non-turf buffer be placed behind the bulkhead.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion Carried
Moved by Scott Hilary, seconded by Ken Meskill, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees APPROVAL WITH
STIPULATION of the Wetland Permit Application of LESLIE GAZZOLA 78-5-2 to replace
82.5 linear ft. of bulkhead within 23" seaward and 25" higher than existing; widen existing slip
by excavating 2.5'X 25' section and constructing new bulkhead at walls; backfill bulkheads with
100 c.y. of excavated material; related activities to complete.
495 Elizabeth Lane, Southold
The CAC recommends approval with the following stipulations:
1. The construction not to exceed seaward into wetland/marsh bottom.
2. A non-turf buffer be placed behind the bulkhead.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion Carried
Moved by Scott Hilary, seconded by Ken Meskill to TABLE the Wetland Permit Application of
WILLIAM H. PRICE, JR. 43-5-10 to construct a 1725 s.f single family dwelling (footprint)
with a 550 s.f. attached deck, an 865 s.f gravel driveway, septic system and water line and place
125 c.y. o fill to elevate the septic system house.
100 Bay Road, Greenport
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The property was not properly staked and labeled.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion Carried
Moved by Scott Hilary, seconded by Ken Meskill to TABLE the Wetland Permit Application of
ROBERT ROCKEFELLER 44-1-8 to construct approx. 74' of toe armor stone and backfill
with 50 yds. of upland fill.
55185 North Road, Southold
No drawing was available to reference the proposed change in the construction.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion Carried
Moved by Bret Hedges, seconded by Melvyn Morris, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees APPROVAL of the
Wetland Permit Application of CHARLES KLEIN 122-4-17 to repair wooden bulkhead and
boat slip inkind/inplace. 16' extension is proposed on the north side perpendicular to the
shoreline and necessary to prevent silting in boat slip and to prevent impacts on the Spartina
marsh. Existing boat slip will be dredged to 3' below mean low water.
2980 Ole Jule Lane, Mattituck
CAC expressed concern as to the depth of the dredging.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion Carried
Moved by Ken Meskill, seconded by Richard Smith, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees DISAPPROVAL of the
Wetland Permit Application of LOUIS SIRCUSANO 71-1-9 to construct +/- 100' of timber
bulkhead with a 30' return at the western terminus and to backfill structure with +/- 25- c.y. of
clean sand trucked in from an upland source.
895 North Parish Dr., Southold
The CAC recommends disapproval and recommends that vegetation be used to stabilize the
slope.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion Carried
Moved by Melvyn Morris, seconded by Mary Griffin, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees APPROVAL of the
Wetland Permit Application of ELLEN KASSCHAU 118-1-1.2 to replace (within 18") +/- 160'
of existing timber bulkhead'and backfill with approx. 135 c.y. of clean sand trucked in from an
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upland source. Remove and replace (inkind/inplace) existing TX 8' frame shed; 6'X 20' wood
deck; 3'X 7' wood steps; and +/- 160' timber retaining wall.
5800 Vanston Road, Cutchogue
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion Carried
Moved by Melvyn Morris, seconded by Richard Smith, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees APPROVAL of the
Wetland Permit Application of MARK LOWENHEIM AND WALTER CHADWICK 86-6-
25 to construct a one-story addition to existing one-story residence with partial full basement and
unfinished attic space.
6565 Indian Neck Lane, Peconic
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion Carried
RECOMMENDAITON OF WAIVER REQUESTS
Moved by Melvyn Morris, seconded by Richard Smith, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees APPROVAL WITH
STIPULATION of the Waiver Request of JOHN LOCKWOOD 117-5-48.1 to clear trees and
brush from the property.
906 Old Harbor Rd., New Suffolk
CAC recommends approval with the stipulation that the area should be maintained as non-turf.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion Carried
Moved by Scott Hilary, seconded by Ken Meskill, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees APPROVAL WITH
STIPULATION of the Waiver Request of ELLEN VIOLETT 90-2-17 to install a 16'X 34'
swimming pool in the rear of the yard.
650 Cedar Point Dr., East, Southold
CAC recommends approval but with the stipulation that the pool maintenance not be discharged
into the wetlands.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion Carried
RECOMMENDATION OF GRANDFATHER REQUESTS
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Moved by Melvyn Morris, seconded by Ken Meskill, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees DISAPPROVAL of the
Grandfather Request of SUSAN SOUNDER 128-6-8 to remove and replace (1P) existing +/- 34'
timber groin with low profile groin to be constructed with C-Loc Vinyl Sheathing.
3270 Peconic Bay Blvd., Laurel
The CAC recommends disapproval based on the fact that the groin is less than 50% functional.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion Carried
RECOMMENDATION OF AMENDMENT REQUESTS
Moved by Scott Hilary, seconded by Richard Smith, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees APPROVAL of the
Amendment Request of PATRICK LOHN 87-3-57 to resheath (within 18" using plastic vinyl
sheathing) the east and south bulkhead walls located within the smaller basin. Amendment to
Permit#4954
2335 Minnehaha Blvd., Southold
CAC recommends a non-turf buffer behind the bulkhead.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion Carried
Moved by Melvyn Morris, seconded by Ken Meskill, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees DISAPPROVAL of the
Amendment Request of LOUIS & ELIZABETH FORMICA 114-7-10.6 to change the
configuration of the dock back to the way it was originally approved by the Trustees.
Amendment to Permit#1658.
2422 Westphalia Rd., Mattituck
CAC recommends Disapproval as an Amendment. Application should be resubmitted as a
Wetland Permit as it is a new structure.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion Carried
Moved by Scott Hilary, seconded by Ken Meskill, it was
RESOLVED to recommend to the Southold Town Board of Trustees DISAPPROVAL of the
Amendment Request of CLEAVES POINT CONDO. 38-7-4.2 & 8 AND 38.2-1-45 to install
four 4'X 30' fingers, four 4'X 25' fingers and construct an 8'X 66' "T" floating dock.
Amendment to Permit#4224.
Shipyard Lane, East Marion
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CAC recommends Disapproval as an Amendment. Application should be resubmitted as a
Wetland Permit.
Vote of Council: Ayes: All
Motion Carried
MATTITUCK INLET MARINA 106-6-13.3 to relocate existing southern float assembly 80'
+/-to south and install new 6'X 20' ramp for access float, remove existing 30' float on southerly
side and attach to south side of existing float assembly to north, install an additional 30' to west
end of said float and install 10'X 310' of floating docks and a 20'X 20' float. Amendment to
Permit#4857.
West Mill Road, Mattituck
The CAC did not make an inspection, therefore, it has no comment.
SET NEXT MEETING DATE
The next meeting of the Southold Town Conservation Advisory Council is scheduled to meet
Tuesday, March 23, 1999 at 5:00 PM.
There being no further business to come before the Council, the meeting was adjourned at 8:15
PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Lauren M. Standish, Secretary
Southold Town
Conservation Advisory Council
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