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PUBLIC MEETING
MINUTES
September 14, 2020
6:00 p.m.
Present were: Donald Wilcenski, Chairman
James H. Rich III, Vice-Chairman
Pierce Rafferty, Member
Mary Eisenstein, Member
Heather Lanza, Planning Director
Mark Terry, Assistant Planning Director
Brian Cummings, Planner
Jessica Michaelis, Office Assistant
Chairman Wilcenski: Good Evening and welcome to the scheduled Public Meeting for
Monday, September 14,.2021 for the Southold Town Planning Board. This meeting is public.
The Planning Board may add or remove applications from the Agenda upon its discretion,
without further notice. Applications may not be heard in the order they appear on this agenda.
This public meeting will be held virtually via the Zoom'online platform. Pursuant to Executive
Order 202.1 of New York Governor Andrew Cuomo in-person access by the public will not be
permitted.
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Board to set Monday, October 5, 2020 at 6:00 p.m. as the time for the next regular
Planning Board Meeting.
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James H. Rich III: I make this motion.
Mary Eisenstein: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Jim, seconded by Mary. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Conditional Preliminary Plat Determinations/STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY
REVIEW ACT Determinations:
Pederson Standard Subdivision-This proposal is for the Standard Subdivision of a
9.2-acre parcel into 3 lots, where Lot 1 is 5.1 acres, Lot 2 is 2.3 acres, and Lot 3 is 1.8
acres, in the R-40 Zoning District. This parcel is located on the southeast side of Circle
Drive, +/- 70' south of Aquaview Avenue, East Marion. SCTM#1000-21.-3-15
Pierce.Rafferty:
WHEREAS, this proposal is for the Standard Subdivision of a 9.2-acre parcel into 3 lots,
where Lot 1 is 5.1 acres, Lot 2 is 2.3 acres, and Lot 3 is 1.8 acres, in the R-40 Zoning
District.
WHEREAS, on August 5, 2019, the Planning Board granted Conditional Sketch Plan
Approval, including waivers to allow the open space to be included in more than one lot
in accordance with their policy to allow design flexibility for significant yield reduction.
Yield was reduced 62% in this proposed subdivision; and
WHEREAS, on October 24, 2019, the applicant's agent submitted the Preliminary Plat
application; and
WHEREAS, at their work session on November 18, 2019, the Planning Board found the
Preliminary Plat application complete, and permitted both side yards to be a minimum of
15' in accordance with their policy to allow design flexibility for significant yield
reduction. Yield was reduced 62% in this proposed subdivision; and
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WHEREAS, on November 22, 2019, pursuant 6 NYCRR Part 617, Section 617.7 of the
State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA), the Planning Board coordinated with
all involved and interested agencies; and
WHEREAS, on November 22, 2019, the application was referred to the Local
Waterfront Revitalization Program (LWRP), Suffolk County Planning Commission, and
all other involved and interested agencies; and
WHEREAS, at their public meeting on December 2, 2019, the Planning Board set the
Preliminary Plat Public Hearing and determined that the action is an Unlisted Action
under SEQRA; and
WHEREAS, in a letter dated December 19, 2019, the East Marion Fire District
responded that a fire well would be required, including a map showing.the location; and
WHEREAS; in a letter dated December 20, 2019, the Suffolk County Planning
Commission responded that this matter should be considered for local determination
and has no objection to Southold Town claiming Lead Agency; and
WHEREAS, on Monday, January 13, 2020, the public hearing was held, and, due to a
noticing error, was held open until the following public meeting on February10, 2020,
when the hearing was closed; and
WHEREAS, in a memo dated January 30, 2020, the LWRP coordinator responded that
this application was found consistent with the policies of Local Waterfront Revitalization
Program; and
WHEREAS, in a memo dated February 18, 2020, the Town Engineer responded with a
list of comments; and
WHEREAS, on January 30, 2020, the Southold Town Local Waterfront Revitalization
Program (LWRP) Coordinator reviewed this application, and has recommended the
proposed project be found consistent with the policies of the Southold Town LWRP with
recommendations to be implemented; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board, as Lead Agency, performed a coordinated review of
this Unlisted Action; and
WHEREAS, on July 20, 2020, at their work session, the Planning Board reviewed the
Public Hearing comments and the comments returned from the applicable and involved
agencies, and all comments were incorporated into the application to the satisfaction of
the Planning Board; and
WHEREAS, on September 14, 2020, at their work session, the Planning Board found
that this Preliminary Plat application is ready for a determination pursuant to Town Code
§240 Subdivision of land; therefore be it
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RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board has determined that this proposed
action is consistent with the policies of the Town of Southold LWRP;
James H. Rich III: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Pierce, seconded by Jim. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Pierce Rafferty: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to SEQRA, hereby
makes a determination of non-significance for the proposed action and grants a
Negative Declaration;
James H. Rich III: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Pierce, seconded by Jim. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Pierce Rafferty: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grants a Conditional Preliminary
Plat Approval upon the map entitled, "Subdivision, Mark Pederson & Katarina Pederson,
Preliminary Plat" prepared by Young &Young, dated August 20, 2019, last revised
October 14, 2019, including Page 2 entitled "Preliminary Road & Drainage Plan", with
the following conditions:
Conditions:
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1. Submission of a Final Plat Application meeting all the requirements of Section 240-
20 of the Southold Town Code, and meeting all conditions of this Conditional
Preliminary Plat Approval.
2. Revisions to Final Plat and/or Final Road and Drainage Plan:
a. Rename the Subdivision "Standard Subdivision for Pederson Final Plat
b. Indicate in a note that Innovative/Alternative Onsite Wastewater Treatment
Systems are required for Lots 2 and 3;
c. Indicate the square footage of the drainage area for the road. Re-label this area
"Road Drainage Area". The drainage area, as designed, must not be counted
towards the open space requirement;
d. Relabel "Open Space Easement Area" to "Open Space Preservation Area
e. Provide metes and bounds for the open space areas and the road's drainage
area;
f. Illustrate a 15' natural or planted vegetated buffer to the Planning Board's
satisfaction on the north side of Lot 3;
g. Illustrate a 30' natural or planted vegetated buffer to the Planning Board's
satisfaction on the east side of Lots 2 and 3;
h. Provide road and drainage specifications to the satisfaction of the Town Engineer
and the Town Fire Marshall;
i. The driveway for Lot 3, if illustrated on the final plat, shall be located to the south
side of the parcel (farther away from the rear yards of the adjacent homes;
j. Indicate a Fire well in the location designated by the East Marion Fire District;
k. Fulfill the street tree requirement pursuant to Town Code §161-44 Street trees to
the satisfaction of the Planning Board. An estimated 9 street trees are required.
Identify any existing trees adjacent to the proposed road that may be acceptable
in lieu of planting a new tree;
3. Submission of Draft Covenants and Restrictions (a template will be provided by the
Planning Department) including but not limited to the following clauses:
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a. Street trees and details for their maintenance
b. Irrigation and Landscaping:
i. Require the use of native, drought-tolerant plants in landscaping;
ii. Area of irrigation should be limited to 15% of the lot area;
iii. Require rain sensors to promote responsible irrigation methods;
iv. Require only the use of organic fertilizers where the water-soluble nitrogen is
no more than 20% of the total nitrogen in the mixture;
v. Require a maximum of 1 lb. of nitrogen per 1000 square feet in any one
application, with a cumulative application of no more than 2 lbs. per 1,000
square feet per year;
vi. Prohibit the application of fertilizer products containing nitrogen, phosphorus,
or potassium between November 1st and April 1st;
vii. The use of phosphorus containing lawn fertilizer is prohibited unless
establishing a new lawn or soil test shows that the lawn does not have
enough phosphorus. Fertilizer labels have three bold numbers. The number
in the middle is the percentage of phosphorus in the product, e.g. 22-0-15.
Use of products with 0.67 in the middle or lower is not restricted. Products
with a number higher than 0.67 may only be used if a new lawn is being
established or a soil test indicates it is necessary.
c. Clearing restrictions from Southold Town Code.
d. Timing of tree clearing: Contact the New York State Department of
Environmental Conservation Regional Office at (631) 444-0306 to determine
possible occurrence of the endangered Northern Long-eared Bat and discuss
regulations pertaining to the species for clearing trees.
e. Road and Drainage Maintenance requirements that all costs be shared among
the three lot owners with additional details.
f. The preservation of the 60% Open Space will be included in the Covenants and
Restrictions to preserve the open space as woodlands and natural habitat as
indicated in the SEQRA assessment and the LWRP Consistency Review:
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i. Conservation of open land in its natural state. Clearing of woodland generally
prohibited, except as necessary to clear trails or remove invasive species;
,ii. Game preserve, wildlife sanctuary, or other similar conservation use.
4. A draft bond estimate to guarantee the installation of the road and drainage and any
other associated infrastructure improvements as required by the Planning Board and
the Town Engineer;
5. Approval of the Final Road & Drainage Plan by the Town Engineer, Fire Marshall
and Town Highway Superintendent
6. Prior to Final Plat Approval, the following will be required:
a. Fulfillment of the Park and Playground Fee and the Administration Fee will be
required prior to Final Plat Approval. A finding on the Park and Playground Fee
requirement will be made on the application during review of the Final Plat
application;
b. Approval by the Suffolk County Department of Health Services (SCDHS);
c. Filing covenants and Restrictions (C&R's) that protect the environment, public
safety, quality of life and community character to the satisfaction of the Planning
Board will be required to be filed. Draft C&R's will be provided to the applicant
during the Final Plat application review.
d. Posting the bond to guarantee the installation of the road and drainage and any
other associated infrastructure improvements as required by the Planning Board
and the Town Engineer;
e. Payment of the Administration Fee equal to 6% of the bond amount.
James H. Rich III: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Pierce, seconded by Jim. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Southold Town Planning Board Public Meeting — September 14, 2020 — Page 8
Motion carries.
Extension of Time to Render Preliminary Plat Determination:
Chairman Wilcenski: Mazzoni Subdivision —This proposal is for a Standard
Subdivision of a 22.94 acre parcel into 5 lots where Lot 1 = 2.34 acres, Lot 2 = 1.78
acres, Lot 3 = 2.18 acres, Lot 4 = 0.56 acres, Lot 5 = 16.06 acres inclusive of a 0.97
acre right-of-way, 8.58 acres of Open Space and 6 acres of a Conservation Easement
held by the Peconic Land Trust (PLT) located in the R-80 Zoning District. The property
is located at 500 Soundview Drive, approximately 782' to the north of NYS Route 25
and 256' to the east of Sound View Drive, Orient. SCTM#1000-13-2-8.2
James H. Rich III:
WHEREAS, This proposal is for a Standard Subdivision of a 22.94 acre parcel into 5
lots where Lot 1 = 2.17 acres, Lot 2 = 1.78 acres, Lot 3 = 2.14 acres, Lot 4 = 0.73 acres,
Lot 5 = 16.15 acres inclusive of a 1.14 acre right-of-way, 8.58 acres of Open Space and
6 acres of a Conservation Easement held by the Peconic Land Trust (PLT) located in
the R-80 Zoning District; and.
WHEREAS, that on March 10, 2020 the Southold Town Planning Board granted
Conditional Preliminary Plat Approval upon the map entitled "Subdivision Henry
Mazzoni at Orient", dated September 25, 2019, and the "Preliminary Road and
Drainage Plan" dated September 25, 2019 prepared by Howard Young, Licensed Land
Surveyor; and
WHEREAS, on March 12, 2020 the Town of Southold declared a state of emergency
due to the COVID-19 Pandemic; and
WHEREAS, Conditional Preliminary Plat Approval expired on September 10, 2020; and
WHEREAS on August 27, 2020 the applicant submitted a letter requesting that
Conditional Preliminary Plat Approval be retroactively extended from September 10,
2020 to March 8, 2021; therefore be it
RESOLVED, that Conditional Preliminary Plat Approval is hereby retroactively and
mutually extended from September 10, 2020 to March 8, 2021.
Pierce Rafferty: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Jim, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
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Motion carries.
Conditional Final Plat Determinations:
Chairman Wilcenski: Colton Acres Standard Subdivision—This Standard
Subdivision proposes to subdivide 4.24 acres into three 1.2-acre lots in the R-40 Zoning
District.-This parcel is located +/- 275' west of Gillette Drive in East Marion. SCTM#
1000-38.-1-1.8
Pierce Rafferty:
WHEREAS, this Standard Subdivision proposes to subdivide 4.24 acres into three 1.2-
acre lots in the R-40 Zoning District; and
WHEREAS, on November 4, 2019, granted a Conditional Preliminary Plat Approval
upon the application; and
WHEREAS, on February 18, 2020, the applicant submitted a Final Plat Application; and
WHEREAS, at their work session February 24, 2020, the Planning Board found the
Final Plat application complete, agreed to waive the Final Plat public hearing, and
reviewed the Park and Playground analysis recommending the applicant pay the Park &
Playground fee; and
WHEREAS, as a result of this subdivision, new homes will likely be constructed,
creating an increased demand for recreational facilities in the Town. These factors
present a proper case for requiring a park suitably located for recreational purposes;
and
WHEREAS, the size of the subject parcel is 4.2 acres and it is surrounded by residential
development. Suitable land does not exist within the proposed subdivision to
accommodate a public park or playground due to the limited acreage of the parcel; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Code establishes a fee to be paid in lieu of providing a
park within the subdivision; the required fee is $7,000.00 per new lot created, and this
subdivision will create two new lots; and
WHEREAS, on February 26, 2020, the applicant's agent submitted a draft bond
estimate; and
WHEREAS, at their work session on July 20, 2020, the Planning Board reviewed and
approved the draft covenants and restrictions; and
WHEREAS, on August 21, 2020, the Town Engineer approved the Final Road and
Drainage Plans for consistency with Chapter 236; and
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WHEREAS, on August 24, 2020, the Town Highway Superintendent approved the Final
Road and Drainage Plan; and
WHEREAS the Planning Board has found that the Final Plat application is in substantial
compliance with the requirements of§240 Subdivision of land, of the Town Code;
therefore be it
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board, as described above, hereby finds
that the proposed subdivision plat presents a proper case for requiring a park suitably
located for recreational purposes, but that a suitable park cannot be properly located on
such subdivision plat, and that the Planning Board will require $14,000.00 in lieu
thereof, pursuant to 240-53 G of the Southold Town Code;
James H. Rich III: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Pierce, seconded by Jim. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
James H. Rich III: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grants a Conditional Final Plat
Approval upon the map entitled, "Final Plat; Map of Colton Acres" prepared by Barrett,
Bonacci &Van Weele, PC, dated May 1, 2019, and last revised June 11, 2020, as well
as the associated four-page road and drainage plan entitled "Final Plat Colton Acres
Road &.Drainage Plan", dated May 1, 2019, last revised June 11, 2020, with the
following conditions:
1. Obtain approval from the Suffolk County Department of Health Services for this
subdivision proposal.
2. File the covenants and restrictions in the Office of the Suffolk County Clerk.
3. Submit the required Park and Playground Fee pursuant to §240-53 G. of the
Southold Town Code: $14,000.
4. Submit the required bond after the Planning Board and the Town Board have
approved the bond estimate.
5. Submit the Administration Fee of 6% of the approved bond estimate.
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6. Submit 12 paper copies & 4'Mylars of the Final Plat to include the following;
• A stamp of approval from the Suffolk County Department of Health Services.
• Reference the Liber & Page of the filed covenants and restrictions
James H. Rich III: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Pierce, seconded by Jim. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Set Sketch Plan Hearing/STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT Type
Classifications:
Chairman Wilcenski: Orient Point Conservation Subdivision —This proposal is for a
75/75 clustered Conservation Subdivision of 36.13 acres, currently comprised of six
parcels; into 6 residential lots ranging in size from 0.91 acres to 1.83 acres, with 25.73
acres from which development rights are proposed to be sold to the Town of Southold,
in the R-80 and R-40 zoning districts. This parcel is located at 32357 Old Main St,
Orient. SCTM#1 000- 14.-2-29.2, 29.3 & 29.4 and SCTM#1000-19-2-2, 3, & 12.2
Mary Eisenstein:
WHEREAS, this proposal is for a 75/75 clustered Conservation Subdivision of 36.14
acres, currently comprised of six parcels, into 6 residential lots ranging in size from 0.91
acres to 1.83 acres, with 25.68 acres from which development rights are proposed to be
sold to the Town of Southold, in the R-80 and R-40 zoning districts. This parcel is
located at 32357 Old Main St, Orient. SCTM#1000- 14.-2-29.2, 29.3 & 29.4 and
SCTM#1000-19-2-2, 3, & 12.2; and
WHEREAS, on May 23, 2018, the applicant submitted a Sketch Plan application and
fee; and
WHEREAS, this application proposes a 75/75 Conservation Subdivision on the
combined 36.14 acres of the six separate parcels which requires up to a 6 lot yield and
that a minimum of 25.68 acres be preserved; and
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WHEREAS, on October 26, 2018 the Planning Board determined that the Sketch Plan
application was incomplete and required additional materials and changes to the Sketch
Plan; and
WHEREAS, on September 5, 2019, the applicant submitted requested materials and on
July 20; 2020 submitted a revised Sketch Plan with incomplete changes made; and
WHEREAS, additional changes will be required on the Final Plat; and
WHEREAS, on September 14, 2020 the Planning Board found the Sketch Plan
application complete; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to State Environmental
Quality Review Act (SEQRA) 6 NYCRR, Part 617, determines that the proposed action
is an Unlisted Action as it does not meet any of the thresholds of a Type I Action, nor
does it meet any of the criteria on the Type II list of actions; therefore be it
RESOLVED, the that the Southold Town Planning Board hereby classifies this
proposed action as an Unlisted Action under S.EQRA as described above;
Pierce Rafferty: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Mary, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion? All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Mary Eisenstein: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board sets Monday, October 5, 2020 at
6:02 p.m. for a Public Hearing upon the Sketch Plan entitled "Orient Point Conservation
Peter Vasilas", dated as last revised March 5, 2020.
Pierce Rafferty: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Mary, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion? All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
Southold Town Planning Board Public Meeting — September 14 2020 — Page 13
None.
Motion carries.
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Approval Extensions:
Chairman Wilcenski: Heritage at Cutchogue (aka Harvest Pointe) - This Residential
Site Plan is for the development of 124 detached and attached dwellings classified in
three types: 48 "Type A" units (1,999 +/- sq. ft. livable area), 72 "Type B" units (1,599 +/-
sq. ft. livable area) and 4 "Type "C" units (1,999 +/- sq. ft. livable area). In addition, there
are proposed the following: a 6,188 sq. ft. community center with a ±1,125 sq. ft.
outdoor swimming pool, one tennis court, 284 parking spaces of which 256 are
associated with the individual dwelling units and 28 are associated with the community
center, and various other associated site improvements, on a vacant 46.17-acre parcel
in the Hamlet Density (HD) Zoning District located on the n/w corner of Griffing Street
and School House Road, approximately 1,079 feet n/o the Main Road, in Cutchogue.
The property is located at 75 Schoolhouse Road, Cutchogue. SCTM#1000-102-1-33.3
James H. Rich III:
WHEREAS, on February 11, 2019, this Residential Site Plan was approved with
conditions for the development of 124 detached and attached dwellings and associated
amenities and infrastructure; and
WHEREAS, on June 3, 2019, the Planning Board amended condition #20 of the
February 11, 2019 resolution; and
WHEREAS, the owner of the Heritage at Cutchogue(aka Harvest Pointe) requested an
amendment for this site plan, which was approved by the Planning Board on August 14,
2017, to add a single pickleball court of 1,710 square feet located next to the tennis
court; and
WHEREAS, on December 2, 2019, the Planning Board amended the approved site plan
with the addition of a single pickleball court of 1,710 square feet located next to the
tennis court; and
WHEREAS, on August 19, 2020, the applicants agent submitted a letter requesting an
Extension of Site Plan Approval until May1, 2023; and
WHEREAS, at a Work Session held on September 14, 2020, the Planning Board
reviewed the application and determined that the expired Site Plan was in compliance
with current rules and regulations and granted an extension of two yea.rs and seven
months to May 1, 2023; and
Southold Town Planning Board Public Meeting — September 14, 2020 — Page 14
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grants an Extension of
Amended Approval With Conditions, listed below, for (2) two years and seven (7)
months from September 17, 2020 to May 1, 2023 of the residential site plan entitled
"Harvest Pointe at Cutchogue" (aka The Heritage at Cutchogue) prepared by VHB
Engineering, Surveying and Landscape Architecture, P.C., dated July 10, 2015, and last
revised August 30, 2017, See attached list of plans included in the site plan.
Pierce Rafferty: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Jim, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Set Public Hearings/STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT Type
Classifications:
Chairman Wilcenski: Tenedios Barn & Greenhouse Amended —This amended
agricultural site plan is for the relocation of a one story 8,664 sq. ft. building to house
livestock and store feed, supplies and farm equipment; which was granted conditional
approval from the Planning Board in 2019 and not constructed. The plan includes a 60'
x 24' (1,440 sq. ft.) greenhouse and other accessory agricultural buildings on a 34.5
acre farm, of which 29.5 acres have development rights held by Southold Town and 5
acres have development rights intact (the greenhouse is located in the 5-acre area and
the barn is located in the 29.5-acre area) in the R-200 Zoning District. The property is
located at 28410 Route 25, Orient. SCTM#1000-19-1-1.4 & 1.3
Mary Eisenstein:
WHEREAS, this amended agricultural site plan is for the relocation of a one story 8,664
sq. ft. building to house livestock and store feed, supplies and farm equipment; which
was granted conditional approval from the Planning Board in 2019 and not constructed.
The plan includes a 60' x 24' (1,440 sq. ft.) greenhouse and other accessory agricultural
buildings on a 34.5 acre farm, of which 29.5 acres have development rights held by
Southold Town and 5 acres have development rights intact (the greenhouse is located
in the 5-acre area and the barn is located in the 29.5-acre area) in the R-200 Zoning
District; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to State Environmental
Quality Review Act (SEQRA) 6 NYCRR, Part 617.5 (c), determined that the proposed
action.is a Type 11 Action as it falls within the following description for 6 NYCRR, Part
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617.5(c)(3) agricultural farm management practices, including construction,
maintenance and repair of farm buildings and structures, and land use changes
consistent with generally accepted principles of farming; be it therefore
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board has determined that this proposed
action is a Type II Action under SEQRA as described above;
Pierce Rafferty: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Mary, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion? All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Mary Eisenstein: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board sets Monday, October 5, 2020 at
6:01 p.m. for a Public Hearing regarding the Amended Site Plan entitled "Tenedios
Farm" prepared by Jeffrey T. Butler, P.E., dated March 22, 2017 and last revised March
17, 2020.
Pierce Rafferty: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Mary, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion? All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Public Hearings Continued by Court Reporter Jessica DiLallo
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
6:01 p.m. - Gentleman's Ridge & Mini Cedars Resubdivision —This resubdivision
proposes to transfer of 0.03 acres (1,307 sq. ft.) from SCTM#1000-17.-1-11.5 to
SCTM91000-17.-1-2.2 to provide the required well installation distance of 150' for the
proposed I/A OWTS on the currently vacant Lot 2.2. As a result of this proposal,
SCTM#1000-17.-1-11.5 will decrease to 5.32 acres total and SCTM#1000-17.-1-2.2 will
increase to 0.95 acres in the R-40 Zoning District. The properties are located on the
west side of Stephenson's Road +/- 800' north of NYSR 25 in Orient. SCTM#1000-17-1-
11.5 & 2.2
6:02 p.m. — North Fork Self Storage III —This site plan is for the proposed
construction of two (2) 2-story self-storage buildings at 53,800 sq. ft. and 37,750 sq. ft.
which includes a 300 sq. ft. office; and 18 parking stalls on 3.7 acres in the Light
Industrial Zoning District. The property is located at 65 Commerce Drive, Cutchogue.
SCTM#1000-96-1-1.3
' APPROVAL Q, PLANNING :BOARD MINUTES
Chairman Wilcenski: We need a motion to approve the board minutes from:
July 6, 2020
August 10, 2020
James H. Rich III: So moved.
Pierce Rafferty: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Jim, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
James H. Rich III: I'd like to make a motion for adjournment.
Pierce Rafferty: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Jim, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Southold Town Planning Board Public Meeting — September 14, 2020 — Page 17
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
There being no further business to come before the Board, the meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
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Jessica Michaelis
Transcribing Secretary
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PLANNING BOARD PUBLIC HEARINGS
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16 Board Members Present:
17 DONALD WILCENSKI, Chairman
18 JAMES H. RICH, III, Board Member
19 PIERCE RAFFERTY, Board Member
20 MARY EISENSTEIN, Board Member
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4 Gentleman's Ridge & Mini Cedars Resubdivision 3/2
5 North Fork Self Storage III 25/4
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September 14, 2020 Public Hearings 3
1 GENTLEMAN' S RIDGE & MINI CEDARS RESUBDIVISION
2 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: The first
3 Public Hearing is for Gentleman's Ridge &
4 Mini Cedars Resubdivision. This
5 resubdivision proposes to transfer of 0.03
6 acres, 1,307 square feet, from
7 SCTM#1000-17-1-11.5 to SCTM#1000-17-1-2.2
8 to provide the required well installation
9 distance of 150 feet from the proposed I/A
10 OWTS on the currently vacant Lot 2.2. As a
11 result of this proposal,
12 SCTM#1000-17-1-11.5 will decrease to 5.32
13 acres in total, and SCTM#1000-17-1-2.2 will
14 increase to 0.95 acres in the R-40 Zoning
15 District. The properties are located on
16 the west side of Stephenson' s Road plus or
17 minus 800 feet north of New York State 25
18 in Orient. SCTM#1000-17-1-11.5 & 2.2.
19 At this time, I would like to open
20 up the floor to anyone who would like to
21 address the Planning Board on Gentleman' s
22 Ridge & Mini Cedars Resubdivision. If you
23 would like to be heard, you can click on
24 the "Raise your hand"button and you' ll be
25 recognized to speak.
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1 MS. MICHAELIS: I actually just
a 2 let Mike Kimack in. He is the agent for the
3 application.
4 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Okay. Mike.
5 Good evening. You can go ahead with your
6 comments.
7 MR. KIMACK: Good evening,
8 everyone. This is a -- it's a little bit
9 of an off situation because it's a
10 triangular piece of property. It was --
11 2.2 is a nonconforming lot. And obviously
12 11.5 is a fairly large lot. It's --
- 13 they're two different LLC' s, but it' s the
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14 same member in both of them. The reason
15 was written -- it was basically stated
16 written for, to be able to get a separation
17 of this from the proposed well to the IA
18 system, which has to be 150 feet. We
19 basically are also before the Zoning Board.
20 And apparently, I know you have to make
21 recommendations to the Zoning Board on this
22 particular one also. There are four
23 variances in which we're asking for. Two
24 is almost administrative. One is because
25 the lot -- the nonconforming lot does not.
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1 meet the 150 foot required width. So they
2 basically have to do that as a variance.
3 And also because even though we're
4 increasing the lot, it's a minimal increase
5 and we're still not meeting the lot being
6 40,000 square foot. So it's close, but not
7 quite there. Those are the two variances
8 that we are after. And I know that you are
9 .asked to comment on these. The other two
10 variances because of that jag -- little jog
11 there, the house basically did not meet the
12 40 foot setback in that one area. And the
13 other one is for coverage. And I would
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14 like to be able to speak to that directly,
15 if I can? You wouldn't be able to see it
16 on this particular map, but the CEHL line
17 is very high up on the map. And it doesn't
18 really give much room. So the house has
19 been pushed primarily back into, rather a
20 small pocket. I don't know -- there you
21 go. The way that the house was laid out
22 and the reason that the coverage issue was,
23 primarily avoid having -- by stretching it
24 out, we created the need to go for variance
�`. 25 with coverage, in order to keep a low
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1 profile on the building. It' s -- there is
-f 2 about 3300 and some odd of livable space in
3 there. The way that it was designed, and
4 you can see the oddity of the layout, was
5 to try and meet the requirements of the
6 site. The first floor basically or the
7 basement primarily, is below grade. There
8 is enough front to back basically that it
9 even with the contours on the front
10 section. And then it pretty much opens on
11 the back section. It was spread out in
12 order to provide enough living space with
13 the bedrooms in the house. So that we
14 would not be able higher for the two houses
15 behind it. One of which, you see there.
16 And the other is really behind where it
17 says, "now or formerly Susan Marino
18 Dunning." East of that primarily. So we
19 did create the circumstances by which we
20 did require going after a coverage issue
21 only because we want to keep that house as
22 low as possible. If you can look at „the
23 narrow section or southern section of that
24 house, it's 21 foot high off of grade. And
25 the northern part of the house is 25 foot
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_ 1 off the grade. So it was all placed on
2 one floor in order not to have it any
3 higher than it needed to be for people to
4 be able to view over the top of it. From
5 that, the owner was sensitive to the visual
6 representation of the house, of the two
7 houses. One of which was his. The other
8 one which is a little -- almost directly
9 east of that house. To be able to not be
10 subject to visual impact.
11 CHAIRMAN WILCENSRI: Okay. Thank
12 you, Mike. We have someone else with their
%�. 13 hand up, Grannydinny.
14 MS. GREEN: Okay. Thank you for
15 allowing me to speak. My name is Beverly
16 Green. And I am speaking as president of
17 Stephenson Road, LLC. I am also speaking
18 for my daughter Charlotte Green and my
19 sister Joanne Lomus (phonetic) , who are
20 co-owners of the LLC, which includes the
21 private roads, known as Stephenson Road.
22 They also own Plot X, which has a deeded
23 easement/right of way over Mini Cedars. We
24 have received materials related to the
25 proposed resubdivision and have a handful
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1 of issues and questions related to it.
2 First, there is an overstatement of the
3 acreage allotted to the Gentleman's Ridge &
4 Mini Cedars property. The acreage quoted
5 on their survey is 5.3551, whereas the
6 actual acreage property card, it's quite a
7 bit lower, 4.7. This is a significant
8 difference likely caused by the incorrect
9 inclusion of Stephenson Road, which bisects
10 their property. I have provided a copy of
11 the survey that I received, which shows
12 they have property lines drawn in red.
13 These were drawn by the developers. I have
14 shaded the property belonging to Stephenson
15 Road, LLC in yellow, which needs to be
16 ' carved out. Hopefully this survey can be
17 displayed during this hearing, as our
18 property has been incorrectly included in
19 their plan. We are not comfortable with
20 this resubdivision moving forward, until
21 the applicants provide an accurate and
22 mutually agreed upon survey. And next Plot
23 X is benefited by an easement/right of way
24 over the Mini Cedar' s property, dating to
" ` , 25 1954. This right of way to Long Island
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1 Sound is shaded in orange. We are
2 concerned about our deeded easement, as it
3 could be negatively affected by this
4 proposed land transfer. In a subsequent
5 survey for October 1st Zoning Board
6 meeting, our easement has disappeared from
7 under a "landscaped buffer. " We are not
8 comfortable with any of the changes to our
9 deeded beach easement. We wish to keep the
10 holdings of Stephenson's Road, LLC intact.
11 In addition, we wish to keep our deeded
12 beach easement intact. Speaking for the
13 moment is Beverly Green. I was asked in
14 line to buy this property in 1983. Thus I
15 am very familiar with it. On the second
16 page of their environmental assessment form
17 that they checked "no" on the shoreline of
18 the wetland's question. This property is
19 both of those things. The property is far
20 too fragile to be developed. As most of it
21 is un-buildable, shoreline, beach and flood
22, plane. We believe this resubdivision is
23 partly to correct the 150 foot issue as the
24 developers state, but more importantly to
25 deliver potable water to it from a larger
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1 adjacent property. This property does not
2 now have, nor has it ever had potable
3 water. Because of the potential water
4 source, this transfer of property will
5 allow for the probability of a larger scale
6 development, where it could not exist
7 before and may be unsuitable given the
8 fragile nature of the area. It is my
9 understanding that such an undertaken is
10 prohibited by Town Law under the lot line
11 modification/resubdivision application
12 process policy, Code 240-56. No. 1, no new
13 development potential will be created in
14 the parcel to which the land is
15 transferred, and No. 4, will result in no
16 additional residential units being
17 developed, and that there will be no impact
18 to wetlands or other sensitive
19 environmental features. The lot line that
20 is -- that modification that is being
21 requested, creates new development
22 potential parcels of land that did not
23 exist before, and contradicts (inaudible) .
24 One last thought, this overstated survey
'� 25 was given to our Town Engineer. Mr. Joseph
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1 Fischetti needs to be given a revised and
2 corrected survey in order to review his
3 past decisions. Lot 2.2 should also be
4 resurveyed. There are similar errors that
5 may have been made. We would like to amend
6 our original letter to include the fact
7 that the stated acreage in the petition is
8 stated at 0.92, going up to 0.95. Whereas,
9 the property card from the Town of Southold
10 states the acreage as 0.865. Thank you
11 again for allowing me to bring these
12 concerns before you.
13 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Thank you
14 very _much. All of your comments and
15 everything is being recorded. And all of
16 your comments .and concerns will be
17 addressed over the next couple of weeks.
18 MS. GREEN: Thank you.
19 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Thank you.
20 Mike, do you want to speak again?
21 MR. KIMACK: I listened to the
22 comments of Ms. Green. Generally, the
23 addition of this particularly section does
24 not increase the developable circumstances.
25 It's a -- it's a lot that was created.
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1 It's a single and separate lot. The
2 addition of this is simply to allow an
3 individual well to be placed on it. It
4 doesn't change the fact that each one of
5 these lots that are up there have their own
6 well systems. There is no public water on
7 any of the sites now. As far as the
8 accuracy of the calculation, most property
9 card calculations are close but not
10 necessarily accurate. The survey that was
11 done by Young & Young, represents a more
12 accurate portrayal of the acreage for both
13 Plot E and for Plot W, the 0.92 and also
14 the 0.93. That when -- when Ms. Green
15 talked about the road being excluded, that
16 is going to be a legal issue, because the
17 research that I have done basically
18 indicates that Ms. Green basically never
19 had a right to that property to begin with.
20 It's not in her original deed, if you go
21 back to the 1906 subdivision itself. The
22 particularly -- the roads themselves and
23 undivided interest to the original 6 or 7
24 lots that were created back there. And
25 when you look at each one of the designated
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1 points that each one was described, they
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2 were either on the westerly side, easterly
3 side of the roads. The roads themselves
4 for the most part were outside of the
5 ownership of the original lots and they
6 were in a sense created as common land or
7 what you might consider an undivided
8 interest. So I know that she thinks she
9 owns it, but she doesn't.
10 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Well, we will
11 make sure that we look into that. I just
12 want to make sure -- I want to reassure
13 everyone that we will be looking into the
14 property cards and staff will do their due
15 diligence to make sure that we get all of
16 the proper dimensions and the road
17 frontages. we will be taking all of
18 this --
19 MR. RIMACK: What I will do is, I
20 will send to Heather, copies of the deeds
21 that I have. And obviously Heather can
22 look up the original 1906 map in terms of
23 how it was configured and like that. But I
24 will also send the deed to Ms. Green's
25 property indicating at no point does Ms.
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1 Green have any deeded right to that
2 property. She may have created a tax map
3 LLC, whatever that is -- but that doesn't
4 mean that from the beginning that she had a
5 right to do so.
6 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Okay. We
7 will determine that. We will respect Ms.
8 Green's assertions and we will make sure
9 that we follow through.
10 MR. KIMACK: I am sure you will.
11 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Would anybody
12 else like to address the Board on the
13 Gentleman' s Ridge and Mini Cedar
14 Resubdivision? Again, all of the
15 assertions made by Ms. Green and Mr. Kimack
16 will be all researched and make sure that
17 we follow through thoroughly. Anybody
18 else? Yes. Mr. Adam Irving, you got the
19 floor.
20 MR. IRVING: I am also a neighbor
21 on Stephenson's Road. And you know, been
22 around this area for a long time but only
23 for the past 7 years. But this has been a
24 family compound that dates back to the
25 1880 's, and as such, with probably a lot of
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1 the family compounds, there are a lot of
2 issues that kind of need to get modernized
3 and need to get legalized. I have done my
4 own bit of research and I am a bit
5 surprised on the statements that the lawyer
6 just made regarding the roads. The chain
7 of title on the roads is pretty clear. So
8 I am not really sure why that is an issue.
9 I think my -- my question is, what is the
10 total square footage of the house? I mean,
11 I looked at the map and it appears to be
12 87 feet wide by like -- anywhere from 45 to
13 50 feet deep, two levels. And I heard the
14 lawyer for the applicant -- I believe I
15 think he said 3300 square feet. By my
16 math, that is not quite getting it. So I
17 am definitely curious as to the size of the
18 house. Particularly because Stephenson
19 Road is an old road. It is single lane.
20 And there are 8 houses that are currently
21 being served by the single lane road. Most
22 of the houses don't have a ton of traffic
23 or a ton of cars, but there are still a
24 fair amount of instances where you still
25 have a stand-off, if you will. So I am
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1 definitely interested in learning more
~ ' 2 about the size of the house and the impact
3 on the roads.
4 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Okay. Thank
5 you for that information. We will look
6 into all of this. Mike, I see you have
7 your hand up again. You can speak, but
8 again, just to reassure everyone, that this
9 all being recorded. Everybody's concerns,
10 everybody's comments will all be taken into
11 consideration and worked through over the
12 next several weeks. Mike?
13 MR. RIMACK: I will try and answer
14 Mr. Irving's questions rather quickly. The
15 house is on two floors. The basement level
16 as I had indicated before, from the
17 roadside is below grade and opens up below.
18 That has -- the lower basement has roughly
19 2208 square feet of livable space. The
20 first floor has 2312 square feet of livable
21 space with a one car garage, adding 422
22 square feet. And a covered patio of 608
23 square feet for a total footprint of 3332
24 square feet. The total liveable area would
25 be about 4512 square feet, with three
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1 bedrooms. Two in the basement and one on
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2 the first floor. And I hope that
3 information helps.
4 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Thank you,
5 Mike. That will all be looked into as part
6 of the application process. Now we have
7 Susan Magrino Dunning. You have the floor.
8 MS. DUNNING: Thank you. And the
9 comments that have been put forth regarding
10 the roads and regarding the traffic,
11 certainly comments about the size of the
12 structure on a lot of this size, if my
13 history is correct, I believe -- I have the
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14 property just to the east of it. My
15 understanding is that this was all one lot.
16 Part of my property, which the former owner
17 of my property sold off. So for the record,
18 it was originally a much larger lot. I
19 think that the ability to put something on
20 here with the size -- I think it was three
21 bedrooms. I didn't hear how many bathrooms
22 it was. I obviously would have concerns on
23 traffic on the septic and all of those
24 kinds of things. Not to mention, what it' s
25 going to take to build something on that
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1 lot and the structure around all the
2 neighboring homes.
3 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Thank you.
4 And thank you for your comments. And I
5 hate to be redundant but we will be looking
6 at all of the comments and all of the
7 questions, you know, to get answers for the
8 public and for everyone and their concerns.
9 Thank you. Would anyone else like to
10 address the Board on the Gentleman's Ridge
11 and Mini Cedar's Resubdivision?
12 Okay. I don't see anyone raising
13 their hand. Can I get motion to close this
14 hearing?
15 MEMBER RICH: Sure, Don. I will
16 make a motion to close the hearing.
17 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Motion made
18 by Jim.
19 MEMBER EISENSTEIN: Second.
20 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Seconded by
21 Mary.
22 All in favor?
23 MEMBER EISENSTEIN: Aye.
24 MEMBER RAFFERTY: Aye.
25 MEMBER RICH: Aye.
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1 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Aye.
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2 Opposed?
3 MS. LANZA: Oh, Jess, was there a
4 notice error?
5 MS. MICHAELIS: Actually, yes,
6 Mike. 3 of the mailing addresses had
7 changed over the course of the last tax
8 roll
9 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: So we are
10 going to have to keep this Public Hearing
11 open until the next Public Hearing. So
12 that will give us some time.
13 MEMBER RICH: Don, I will amend
14 the motion to continue the hearing on
15 October 5th.
16 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Okay. Motion
17 made by Jim.
18 MEMBER RAFFERTY: Second.
19 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Seconded by
20 Pierce.
21 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: All in favor?
22 MEMBER EISENSTEIN: Aye.
23 MEMBER RAFFERTY: Aye.
24 MEMBER RICH: Aye.
�- 25 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Aye.
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1 Opposed?
�-� 2 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Motion
3 carries.
4 I guess the Green Cards didn't come
5 back and we will actually keep the hearing
6 open, and we will start looking into all of
7 the questions that everybody has.
8 MS. MICHAELIS: I have somebody
9 else that has raised their hand also.
10 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Okay. Go
11 ahead, Ms. Green.
12 MS. MICHAELIS: It said Jen
13 Mailer. I just allowed her into the group
14 to speak.
15 MS. LOMAS: Yeah. I am Joanne
16 Lomus. I live in the house behind -- what
17 is going to be behind the new house. And I
18 am the one with the deeded easement along
19 Susan Magrino's property. And down to the
20 beach along side the Etson lot. The Mini,
21 LLC. And I am concerned about my easement.
22 I don't know exactly what I should do about
23 it, because over the years we have been
24 using the traveled path that you can see on
25 the map. The easement is up against the
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1 property line. It sort of migrated over.
2 So if they are going to be building over
3 the old path to the beach, can I clear the
4 easement? The easement is now covered with
5 under brush and things like that. How do I
6 go about -- see how it goes, it goes
7 directly beside the house. As you see, it
8 jogs. It does an L-shape from Susan's
9 property in front of their garage and down
10 to the beach. Am I allowed to clear that
11 so that I can get to the beach? The lawyer
12 didn't address that?
13 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: I think that
14 might be a Trustees issue.
15 MS. LANZA: I also think it's --
16 we're getting into some territory that
17 might require attorneys on both sides.
18 MR. BURKE: Yeah. We couldn't
19 provide legal advice on that, the status of
20 the easement. In general, you would have
21 to talk to an attorney about that. Your
22 easement is what it is. And I don't think
23 that the Planning Board is intending --
24 there is no indication that this structure
25 is going to affect your easement. And
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1 whether or not you can clear your easement
2 or whether or not you have utilized the
3 traveled path is a separate legal issue
4 that we wouldn't be able to give you legal
5 advice on.
6 MS. LOMAS: Okay.
7 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: By the way,
8 that is John Burke, Town Attorney speaking,
9 responding to that question.
10 MS. LOMAS: Thank you.
11 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Okay. Ms.
12 Green, you have your hand up again. Okay.
13 MEMBER RICH: Don, I will make a
V 14 motion --
15 MR. BURKE: Did we reopen the
16 hearing?
17 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: The hearing
18 is -- that is a good point. We already had
19 a motion and a second and we voted to leave
20 the hearing open until October 5th. So if
21 anybody has any new information, I guess we
22 will hear it tonight, but be advised that
23 we will have another night to have a Public
24 Hearing.
25 MS. MICHAELIS: Mike also has his
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1 hand raised.
2 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Alright,
3 Mike.
4 MR. KIMACK: Very quickly.
5 MR. BURKE: Are we going to reopen
6 the hearing now?
7 MS. LANZA: It doesn't need to be
8 reopen, John, because it wasn't closed.
9 Mit. BURKE: I think they took a
10 vote --
11 MS. LANZA: They voted to keep it
12 open.
13 MR. BURKE: You're right.
14 MR. KIMACK: The intent was -- you
15 can see the travel path basically meanders
16 over. However it was done, it was probably
17 done the easy way and probably outside the
18 15 foot wide easement. We had intended to
19 recut the path. Now keep in mind that the
20 path really can't be any wider than 4
21 anyway under Trustees regulations. And
22 also under DEC regulations. That's the
23 width. Probably maybe 6 or 7 foot wide for
24 the most part. The intent was to recut
25 along the 15 foot easement and come back
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1 and join it into the travel path on the
2 westerly side of the proposed house. And
3 just use that rather than disturb any more
4 of the vegetation. Because the 15 foot
5 wide easement over there becomes pretty
6 rugged. And to try and cut a line on the
7 property line. Very hard to do. Our idea
8 was to simply go back to the travel path
9 and leave it in place and not disturb it
10 any more than we have to. That's it.
11 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Okay. Thank
12 you for those comments. And like I said
13 everyone, we're going to be doing some
14 research between now and October 5th, but
15 you're more than able to join back on
16 October 5th. I think we will still be on
17 Zoom. There may be some transitioning
18 possibly on some public meetings, but right
19 now we're not. So it will still be a Zoom
20 meeting scheduled for October 5th. So
21 everyone can also bring their comments
22 again. And we will take these comments and
23 try and have some answers for you at that
24 time. Thank you. Okay. So we had a
25 motion to keep this open. So we're going
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1 to move onto our next Public Hearing.
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3 NORTH FORK SELF STORAGE III
4 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Our next Public
5 Hearing is for North Fork Self Storage III.
6 This site pian is for the proposed
7 construction of two (2 ) 2-story
8 self-storage buildings at 53,800 square
9 feet and 37,750 square feet, which includes
10 a 300 square feet office; and 18 parking
11 stalls on 3.7 acres in the Light Industrial
12 Zoning District. The property is located
13 at 65 Commerce Drive in Cutchogue.
14 SCTM#1000-96-1-1.3.
15 I will open up the floor for
16 anyone who would like to make comments.
17 Your comments and questions should be
18 addressed to the Board. Anyone?
19 MS. MICHAELIS: Go ahead, Gail.
20 MS. WICKHAM: Hi. I was expecting.
21 Marty would be able to address this. If
22 he's not here, then I can certainly answer
23 any questions that the Board might have?
24 MS. MICHAELIS: I have Martin in
25 here. I am sorry. I didn't realize that
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1 was Marty. Hold on. I will send him in.
2 Okay. Marty, you are available to talk
3 now.
4 MARTY: Hello everybody. Hi Gail.
5 MS. WICKHAM: Hello.
6 CHAIRMAN WILCENSRI: Does any
7 attendee have any questions for the
8 applicant or -- sorry. Does anybody want
9 to make any comments with regards to North
10 Fork Self Storage III in Cutchogue on
11 Commerce Drive? We only- have one person
12 left in the audience? Any comments,
13 Mr. Slaten?
14 (No Response) .
15 CHAIRMAN WILCENSRI: I don't think
16 any -- does any Board members have any
17 questions for Gail or Marty?
18 ME'MBE'R EISENSTEIN: Yes, I do.
19 It's saying -- I am just checking in that
20 you are looking to build two, two-story
21 self storage buildings? One is 53,800
22 square feet; that is like over an acre?
23 And 37,750 square feet?
24 MARTY: Those are gross square
25 footage. They are two-story buildings.
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1 Each are two-story buildings. Our lot
2 coverage is 28.1%. In the LI Zone, you are
3 permitable up to 30% lot coverage.
4 MS. WICKHAM: Martin, to clarify,
5 are you saying that the square footage
6 includes both floors of each building?
7 MARTY: That is correct.
8 MS. WICKHAM: Yes.
9 MEMBER EISENSTEIN: Thank you.
10 Sorry. A followup. What is the largest
11 building that is presently on Commerce?
12 MARTY: The 50 Commerce, that
13 building I believe is 260 feet. It' s
14 42,000 square feet between three floors. I
15 think it's 260 square feet long.
16 MEMBER EISENSTEIN: Thank you.
17 MS. WICKHAM: I might want to add
18 that the transfer station on Commerce might
19 be bigger than that.
20 MARTY: That might -- that
21 definitely bigger.
22 MS. WICKHAM: I can look that up.
23 MARTY: That might be 300 square
24 feet in length.
25 MS. WICKHAM: And at least
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1 two-story's.
2 MARTY: That's 35 feet high in the
3 entirety of the building.
4 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Alright.
5 Does anybody else have any questions? Does
6 Mark Slaten have any questions? You can
7 address the Board?
8 MR. SLATEN: No. I am here as a
9 bystander. That's all. Thank you.
10 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Does any
11 other Board member have any questions for
12 Gail or Martin for the application of North
13 Fork Self Storage III? Pierce?
14 MEMBER RAFFERTY:, No, I don't have
15 any more.
16 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Jim?
17 MEMBER RICH: No.
18 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Mary?
19 MEMBER EISENSTEIN: No.
20 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Okay. Can I
21 get a motion to close the hearing?
22 MEMBER RICH: I will make a motion
23 to close the hearing.
24 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Motion made
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1 MEMBER RAFFERTY: Second.
2 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Second by
3 Pierce.
4 Any discussion?
5 (No Response) .
6 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: All in favor?
7 MEMBER EISENSTEIN: Aye.
8 MEMBER RAFFERTY: Aye.
9 MEMBER RICH: Aye.
10 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Aye.
11 Opposed?
12 (No Response) .
13 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Motion
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3 I, JESSICA DILALLO, a Court Reporter
4 and Notary Public, for and within the State
5 of New York, do hereby certify:
6 THAT the above and foregoing contains
7 a true and correct transcription of the
8 Public Hearing portion of the meeting held on
9 September 14, 2020, via videoconference.
10 I further certify that I am not
11 related to any of the parties to this action
12 by blood or by marriage and that I am in no
13 way interested in the outcome of this matter.
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