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PUBLIC MEETING
Town Clerk
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August 9, 2021
6:00 p.m.
Present were: James H. Rich III, Vice-Chairman
Pierce Rafferty, Member
Martin Sidor, Member
Mary Eisenstein, Member
Heather Lanza, Planning Director
Mark Terry, Assistant Planning Director
Brian Cummings, Planner -
Jessica Michaelis, Office Assistant
Vice-Chairman Rich: Good Evening and welcome to the scheduled Public Meeting for
Monday, August 9, 2021 for the Southold Town Planning Board. This meeting is public. The
Planning Board may add or remove applications from the Agenda upon its discretion, without
further notice. Applications may not be heard in the order they appear on this agenda.
This public meeting will be held virtually via the Zoom online platform. Pursuant to Executive
Order 202.1 of New York Governor Andrew Cuomo in-person access by the public will not be
permitted.
SETTING OF THE NEXT PLANNING BOARD MEETING
Vice-Chairman Rich: The first order of business is to set Monday, September 13,
2021 at 6:00 p.m. as the time for the next regular Planning Board Meeting.
Martin Sidor: I make a motion.
Mary Eisenstein: Second.
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Vice-Chairman Rich: Motion made by Martin, seconded by Mary. Any discussion?All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
` SUBDIVISIONS
CONDITIONAL SKETCH PLAN APPROVAL EXTENSION:
Vice-Chairman Rich: Tuthill Conservation Subdivision —This proposal is for an
80/60 Conservation Subdivision of four parcels (total area=112 acres) into 17 residential
lots, with 94 acres to be preserved. The properties are located on Main Road in Orient
in the R-80 and R-200 Zoning Districts. SCTM#'s 1000-17-4-16, 1000-17-6-14.2, 1000-
18-3-30.3 and 1000-18-6-17.3
Pierce Rafferty:
WHEREAS, this proposal is for an 80/60 Conservation Subdivision of four parcels
SCTM#s1000-17-4-16, 1000-17-6-14.2, 1000-18-3-30.3 and 1000-18-6-17.3 (total area
= 112 acres) into 17 residential lots, with 94 acres to be preserved. This project includes
the transfer of yield among the four parcels pursuant to §240-42 F of the Southold Town
Code.
SCTM#1000-17-4-16 (North Dyer) equals 21 acres proposed to be subdivided into 6
lots where the lots range in size from 0.7 - 0.9 acres. This property includes a 0.7 acre
private right-of-way and 15.6 acres of preserved open space inclusive of 6 acres of
unbuildable lands.
SCTM#1000-17-6-14.2 (South Dyer) equals 35.3 acres proposed to be subdivided into
5 lots where the lots range in size from 0.5 - 0.9 acres; property includes a 0.5 acre
right-of-way and 28.5 acres of open space inclusive of 15 acres of unbuildable lands.
SCTM#1000-18-3-30.3 (North Brown) equals 28.7 acres proposed to be subdivided into
5 lots where the lots range in size from 0.7 - 0.8 acres. This property includes a 1.3 acre
private.right-of-way and 23.7 acres of open space inclusive of 2 acres of unbuildable
lands.
SCTM#1000-18-6-17.3 (South Brown) equals 26.9 acres proposed to be subdivided
where Lot 1 equals 0.92 acres. This property includes 25.5 acres of open space
inclusive of 0.62 acres of unbuildable lands; and
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WHEREAS, on July 3, 2014 the agent submitted a Sketch Plan Application and fee in
the amount of$50.0.00 with other required materials for submission pursuant to Article V
Sketch Plat Review; and
WHEREAS, on December 2, 2019 the Southold Town Planning Board granted
Conditional Sketch Plan Approval upon the maps entitled:
• Sketch Plan North Dyer dated as last revised April 3, 2013,
• Sketch Plan South Dyer dated April 1, 2011,
• Sketch Plan of North Brown dated October 22, 2013,
• Sketch Plan of South Brown dated as last revised April 2, 2013; and
WHERES, on March 12, 2020 the Town of Southold declared a state of emergency due
to the COVID-19 Pandemic; and
WHEREAS, Conditional Sketch Approval, granted by the Planning Board on December
2, 2019, expired on June 2, 2021 pursuant to Article V. Sketch Plat Review§ 240-14.
Expiration of the Southold Town Code; and
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grants a retroactive extension of
time to file the Final Plat Application from June 2, 2021 to December 31, 2021.
Martin Sidor: Second.
Vice-Chairman Rich: Motion made by Pierce, seconded by Martin. Any discussion?All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
CONDITIONAL FINAL PLAT EXTENSION:
Vice-Chairman Rich: Gonzalez Standard Subdivision —This proposal is for the
standard subdivision of a 4.29-acre parcel into two lots, where Lot 1 is 2.07 acres and
Lot 2 is 2.22 acres in the R-80 Zoning District. This parcel is located at 2050 Platt Rd
(+/- 1,830' south of S.R. 25), Orient. SCTM#1000-27.-1-9
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Martin Sidor:
WHEREAS, this proposal is for a Standard Subdivision of a 4.29-acre parcel into two
lots where Lot 1 is 2.07 acres and Lot 2 is 2.22 acres located in the R-80 Zoning
District; and
WHEREAS, on August 5, 2019, the Planning Board granted Conditional Final Plat
Approval on the application; and
WHEREAS, on January 31, 2020, the applicant requested a 6-month extension of the
Conditional Final Plat Approval granted August 5, 2019 and set to expire February 6,
2020 to provide time to receive approval from the Suffolk County Department of Health
Services; and
WHEREAS, on February 10, 2020, the Planning Board agreed to retroactively extend
the Conditional Final Plat Approval from February 6, 2020, to August 6, 2020; and
WHEREAS, on August 10, 2020, the Planning Board agreed to retroactively extend,the
Conditional Final Plat Approval from August 6, 2020, to February 6, 2021; and
WHEREAS, on February 8, 2021, the Planning Board agreed to retroactively extend the
Conditional Final Plat Approval from February 6, 2021, to August 9, 2021; and
WHEREAS, the agent requested that the Conditional Final Plat Approval be extended
an additional six months to provide time to receive approval from the Suffolk County
Department of Health Services; and
WHEREAS, on August 9, 2021, the Planning Board agreed to extend the Conditional
Final Plat Approval from August 9, 2021, to February 6, 2022; therefore be it
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board hereby extends the Conditional
Final Plat Approval upon the plan entitled, "Gonzales Standard Subdivision Final Plat,"
prepared by John T. Metzger, Land Surveyor, dated April 29, 2015, and last revised
July 3, 2019, from August 9, 2021 to February 6, 2022 with the following conditions:
1. Submission of 12 paper copies and 4 Mylars of the Final Plat including the Health
Department stamp of approval;
Mary Eisenstein: Second.
Vice-Chairman Rich: Motion made by Martin, seconded by Mary. Any discussion? All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
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None.
Motion carries
CONDITIONAL FINAL PLAT DETERMINATION:
Vice-Chairman Rich: Fishers Island Weathervane Resubdivision -This
resubdivision proposes to transfer 4,617 sq. ft. from Lot 1 (SCTM#1 000-2-1-8.1) to Lot 2
(SCTM#1000-2-1-8.2), and 2,884 sq. ft. from Lot 2 to Lot 1. Lot 1 will decrease from
69,972 sq. ft. to 68,239 sq. ft., and Lot 2 will increase from 72,818 sq. ft. to 74,551 sq. ft.
in the R-120 zoning district. Both lots require a variance from the Zoning Board of
Appeals to be less than the minimum lot size of 120,000 sq. ft. SCTM#1000-2-1-8.1 &
8.2
Mary Eisenstein:
WHEREAS, on March 24, 2021, the applicant submitted a resubdivision application for
review by the Southold Town Planning Board; and
WHEREAS, this resubdivision proposes to transfer 4,617 sq. ft. from Lot 1
(SCTM#1 000-2-1-8.1) to Lot 2 (SCTM#1000-2-1-8.2), and 2,884 sq. ft. from Lot 2 to Lot
1. Lot 1 will decrease from 69,972 sq. ft. to 68,239 sq. ft., and Lot 2 will increase from
72,818.sq. ft. to 74,551 sq. ft. in the R-120 zoning district. Both lots require a variance
from the Zoning Board of Appeals to be less than the minimum lot size of 120,000 sq.
ft.; and
WHEREAS, at their work session on May 17, 2021, the Southold Town Planning Board
found the resubdivision application complete; and
WHEREAS, pursuant to §240-56 Waivers of certain provisions, the Southold Town
Planning Board shall have the authority to modify or waive, subject to appropriate
conditions, any provision of these subdivision regulations, if in its judgment they are not
requisite in the interest of the public health, safety and general welfare, except where
such authority would be contrary to other ordinances or state law; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board has determined that the following
provisions of the Southold Town Code §240 Subdivision of Land are not requisite in the
interest of the public health, safety and general welfare because this resubdivision does
not create any additional residential building lots, and the amount of land being
transferred from one lot to the other is small, and therefore are eligible for a waiver:
a. Sketch Plat Review;
b. Existing Resources Site Analysis Plan (ERSAP);
c. Yield Plan;
d. Primary & Secondary Conservation Area Plan;
e. Preliminary Plat Review; and
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WHEREAS, on May 25, 2021, the Suffolk County Planning Commission responded that
this proposal is a matter for local determination; and
WHEREAS, pursuant to the resubdivision policy set by the Planning Board on February
2011, this application is eligible for a decision from the Planning Board prior to receiving
approval by the Suffolk County Department of Health Services (SCDHS) as it meets the
following criterion set forth in that policy:
• Where both lots are already developed; and
• Where no new development potential will be created in the parcel to which the
land is transferred; and
WHEREAS, this application is EXEMPT from review by the Local Waterfront
Revitalization Program as no new development potential will come as a result of this
resubdivision; and
WHEREAS, on June 7, 2021, the public hearing was held; and
WHEREAS, on June 17, 2021, the Southold Town Zoning Board of Appeals granted the
area variances required; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to State Environmental
Quality Review Act (SEQRA) 6 NYCRR, Part 617, has determined that the proposed
action is a Type II Action under SEQRA according to 617.5(c)(16) "granting of individual
setback and lot line variances and adjustments"; and
WHEREAS, on July"26, 2021, at their Work Session, the Planning Board determined
that the proposed action meets all the necessary requirements of Town Code §240-57
for a resubdivision application; and
WHEREAS, pursuant to Town Code §240-41 concrete monuments to mark the property
boundaries are required; therefore be it
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board has determined that this proposed
action, which was incorrectly classified as Unlisted.on June 7, 2021, is a Type If action
under SEQRA as described above;
Pierce Rafferty: Second.
Vice-Chairman Rich: Motion made by Mary, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion? All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
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None.
Motion.carries.
Mary Eisenstein: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to §240-56 Waivers of
certain provisions, hereby waives the following provisions of subdivision:
a. Article V.- Sketch Plat Review;
b. §240-10 (A): Existing Resources Site Analysis Plan (ERSAP);
c. §240-10 (B):Yield Plan;
d. §240-10 (C): Primary & Secondary Conservation Area Plan;
e. Article Vl: Preliminary Plat Review;
Pierce Rafferty: Second.
Vice-Chairman Rich: Motion made by Mary, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion?All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Mary Eisenstein: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board hereby waives the requirement to
receive.approval from the Suffolk County Department of Health Services prior to
approval of this resubdivision by the Southold Town Planning Board;
Pierce Rafferty: Second.
Vice-Chairman Rich: Motion made by Mary, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion? All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
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Mary Eisenstein: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grants a Conditional Final Plat
Approval upon the map entitled "Map of FI Weathervane Enterprises, LLC Lot Line
Change," prepared by Richard Strouse, PE, dated January 27, 2021, and last revised
April 28, 2021 with the following conditions:
Conditions:
1. Submit revised Schedules A, B & C for each deed with the revised legal
description and illustration of the configuration of the areas to be conveyed
2. Install concrete monuments at each new property corner.
3. Notify the Planning Board when the monuments have been installed so that an
inspection can be made.
Pierce Rafferty: Second.
Vice-Chairman Rich: Motion made by Mary, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion?All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
.. :_.: SITE PLAN
APPLICATIONS
DETERMINATIONS:
Vice-Chairman Rich: Boisseau Avenue Farm —This site plan application is for the
proposed construction of a 1-story 2,520 sq. ft. building for agricultural storage, two 96'
x 30' greenhouses, a gravel access road and parking area located on ±16 acres in the
R-80 Zoning District. The property is located at 850 Maier Place, Southold.
SCTM#1000-55-6-37.1
Pierce Rafferty:
WHEREAS, this agricultural site plan is for the proposed construction of a 1-story 2,520
sq. ft. building for agricultural storage and no basement, two (2) 96' x 30' greenhouses,
a gravel access road located on ±16 acres of farmland in the R-80 Zoning District,
Southold; and
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WHEREAS, on March 15, 2021, Charles Southard, authorized agent, submitted
incomplete materials for Site Plan Application review and was required to submit to the
building department for a Notice of Disapproval; and
WHEREAS, on May 27, 2021, Charles Southard, authorized agent, submitted revised
site plans and materials for Site Plan Application review; and
WHEREAS, on June 7, 2021, the Planning Bound accepted the application as complete
for review; and
WHEREAS, on June 7, 2021, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to State
Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA) 6 NYCRR, Part 617.5 (c), determined that
the proposed action is a Type II Action as it falls within the following description for 6
NYCRR, Part 617.5(c)(3) agricultural farm management practices, including
construction, maintenance and repair of farm buildings and structures, and land use
changes consistent with generally accepted principles of farming; and
WHEREAS, on June 7, 2021, pursuant to Southold Town Code §280-131(H), the
Southold Town Planning Board waived the requirement for a public hearing regarding
this application involving uses strictly related to agriculture (but excepting retail winery
operations); and
WHEREAS, pursuant to Southold Town Code §280-133(C) and as detailed in work
session staff reports on June 7, 2021 and July 26, 2021, the Planning Board waived
certain application requirements of§ 280-133 for this application involving uses strictly
related to agriculture (but excepting retail winery operations); and
WHEREAS, on July 1, 2021, a Notice of Disapproval was issued for the subject
application;
WHEREAS, on July 1, 2021, the Planning Board, pursuant to Southold Town Code
§280-131 C., distributed the application to the required agencies for their comments;
and
WHEREAS, on July 7, 2021, the Southold Town Code Enforcement officer verified that
there were no open violations on the subject parcel; and
WHEREAS, on July 8, 2021, the Southold Town Engineer reviewed the proposed
application and determined that the certain revisions were required in order for the
application to meet the minimum requirements of Chapter 236 for Storm Water
Management; and
WHEREAS, on July 8, 2021, the Southold Town Fire Inspector stated there were no
objections to the proposed site plan; and
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WHEREAS, on July 9, 2021, the Town of Southold Local Waterfront Revitalization
Program Coordinator reviewed the proposed project and determined it to be consistent
with the Southold Town LWRP policies; and
WHEREAS, on July 19, 2021, the Southold Fire District determined that there was
adequate fire protection and access for the proposed action; and
WHEREAS, on July 22, 2021, Charles Southard, authorized agent, submitted
specification details for the proposed earth floor greenhouses; and
WHEREAS, on July 26, 2021, the Southold Town Planning Board determined that all
applicable requirements of the Site Plan Regulations, Article XXIV, §280 — Site Plan
Approval of the Town of Southold have been met; and
WHEREAS, on July 27; 2021, the Agricultural Advisory Committee provided comments
supporting the proposed project for approval; and
WHEREAS, on July 27, 2021, the Southold Town Chief Building Inspector reviewed and
certified the proposed Agricultural Storage and Greenhouses as permitted uses in the
R-80 Zoning District; therefore be it
WHEREAS, on August 5, 2021, Charles Southard, authorized agent, submitted revised
site plans showing updated exterior lighting and storm water management details;
therefore be it
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board has determined that this proposed
action is consistent with the policies of the Town of Southold Local Waterfront
Revitalization Program;
Martin Sidor: Second.
Vice-Chairman Rich: Motion made by Pierce, seconded by Martin. Any discussion?All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Pierce Rafferty: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board hereby waives the requirement for
a public hearing and certain application requirements as described above;
Martin Sidor: Second.
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Vice-Chairman Rich: Motion made by Pierce, seconded by Martin. Any discussion?All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Pierce Rafferty: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board approves the Site Plan with
conditions, listed below, to the site plan entitled "Boisseau Avenue Farm" prepared by
Charles W. Southard dated March 10, 2021 and last revised July 23, 2021 and
authorizes the Chairman to endorse the Site Plan and the following pages:
1. S — 1: Site Plan
2. P1 model exterior lighting specifications sheet
Conditions
1. Access to the farm and future retail area from Boisseau Avenue shall be
from the access road as shown on the approved site plan. Temporary
access over the existing driveway to the south is permitted until the new
access driveway is constructed. Any additional formal access points to
Boisseau Avenue must be approved by the Planning Board prior to
installation;
2. Contact the Office of the Town Engineer at(631)765-1560 prior to
installation of any drainage structures to set up an inspection schedule;
3. All exterior lighting on the property shall comply with the approved site
plan and the provisions of Chapter 172 of the Town Code. Any future
exterior light fixtures not shown on the approved site plan must be
reviewed for compliance and approved by the Planning Board prior to
installation.
Martin Sidor: Second.
Vice-Chairman Rich: Motion made by Pierce, seconded by Martin. Any discussion? All
in favor?
Ayes.
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Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Vice-Chairman Rich: Murtha Agricultural Barn —This site plan application is for the
proposed construction of a 42' x 60' agricultural storage building for equipment related
to raising livestock and pasture management, on 20.6 acres in the AC Zoning District.
The property is located at 2668 Long Creek Drive, Southold. SCTM#1000-56-1-11.15
Martin Sidor:
WHEREAS, this site plan application is for the proposed construction of a 42' x 60'
agricultural storage building for equipment related to raising livestock and pasture
management, on 20.6 acres in the AC Zoning District; and
WHEREAS, on September 23, 2020, William Kelly, authorized agent, submitted a
portion of materials for Site Plan Application review; and
WHEREAS, on November 18, 2020, William Kelly, authorized agent, submitted
additional materials for Site Plan Application review; and
WHEREAS, on December 7, 2020, the Planning Bound determined the application as
incomplete for review; and
WHEREAS, on May 3, 2021, William Kelly, authorized agent, submitted a portion of
materials for Site Plan Application review; and
WHEREAS, on May 6, 2021, William Kelly, authorized agent, submitted the Site Plan
application fee and revised site plans for Site Plan Application review; and
WHEREAS, on May 27, 2021, William Kelly, authorized agent, submitted the building
elevations for Site Plan Application review; and
WHEREAS, at their work session on June 7, 2021, the Southold Town Planning Board
accepted the site plan application for review; and
WHEREAS, on June 7, 2021, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to State
Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA) 6 NYCRR, Part 617.5 (c), determined that
the proposed action is a Type II Action as it falls within the following description for 6
NYCRR, Part 617.5(c)(3) agricultural farm management practices, including
construction, maintenance and repair of farm buildings and structures, and land use
changes consistent with generally accepted principles of farming; and
WHEREAS, on June 7, 2021, pursuant to Southold Town Code §280-131(H), the
Southold Town Planning Board agreed to waive the requirement for a public hearing
regarding this application which involves uses strictly related to agriculture; and
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WHEREAS, pursuant to Southold Town Code §280-133(C) and as detailed in work
session staff reports on June 7, 2021 and July 26, 2021, the Planning Board agreed to
waive certain application requirements of§ 280-133 for this application which involves
uses strictly related to agriculture (but excepting retail winery operations); and
WHEREAS, on June 24, 2021, the Planning Board, pursuant to Southold Town Code
§280-131 C., distributed the application to the required agencies for their comments;
and
WHEREAS, on June 24, 2021, the Southold Town Fire Inspector stated there were no
objections to the proposed site plan; and
WHEREAS, on July 1, 2021, the Southold Town Code Enforcement officer verified that
there were no open violations on the subject parcel; and
WHEREAS, on July 8, 2021, the Southold Town Engineer reviewed the proposed
application and determined that the certain revisions were required in order for the.
application to meet the minimum requirements of Chapter 236 for Storm Water
Management; and
WHEREAS, on July 15, 2021, the Town of Southold Local Waterfront Revitalization
Program Coordinator reviewed the proposed project and determined it to be consistent
with the Southold Town LWRP policies with certain recommendations issued; and
WHEREAS, on July 19, 2021, the Southold Fire District determined that there was
adequate fire protection and access for the proposed action; and
WHEREAS,'on July 26, 2021, the Southold Town Planning Board determined that all
applicable requirements of the Site Plan Regulations, Article XXIV, §280 — Site Plan
Approval of the Town of Southold have been met; and
WHEREAS, on July 27, 2021, the Agricultural Advisory Committee provided comments
supporting the proposed project for approval; and
WHEREAS, on July 27, 2021, the Southold Town Chief Building Inspector reviewed and
certified the proposed Agricultural Storage Building as a permitted use in the A-C
Zoning District; therefore be it
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board hereby waives the requirement for
a public hearing and certain application requirements as described above;
Mary Eisenstein: Second.
Vice-Chairman Rich: Motion made by Martin, seconded by Mary. Any discussion?All
in favor?
Ayes.
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Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Martin Sidor: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board has determined that this proposed
action is consistent with the policies of the Town of Southold Local Waterfront
Revitalization Program;
Mary Eisenstein: Second.
Vice-Chairman Rich: Motion made by Martin, seconded by Mary. Any discussion?All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Martin Sidor: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board approves the Site Plan with
conditions, listed below, to the site plan entitled "Murtha Ag Barn" prepared by Nathan
Taft Corwin III, L.S., dated March 25, 2020 and last revised April 30, 2021 and
authorizes the Chairman to endorse the Site Plan.
Conditions
1. All Suffolk County Farmland Committee requirements shall be met as
issued October 12, 2017 for Committee Resolution Number FC-33-2017;
2. This site plan was reviewed and approved with no exterior lights. Any
future exterior lighting must be approved by the Planning Board by letter
prior to installation.
3. Fences
a. Fencing as shown on the site plan may be relocated as needed; and,
additional fencing may be installed without the need-to amend the
Planning Board site plan approval.
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b. As permitted by the Suffolk County Farmland Committee.
c. Prior to installing fencing closer than 100' to the wetlands, a permit
or letter of non jurisdiction from the NYS DEC and Southold Town
Trustees shall be obtained.
d. A buffer* shall be provided between the fences and the wetland
boundaries.
*Consult the NYS DEC or the local Natural Resources Conservation
Service Center for advice on buffer size and composition.
4. Drainage requirements for this small barn and gravel area have been
waived. All stormwater runoff must be prevented from entering wetlands
and contained within the property.
5. The agricultural barn building location may be changed to any location on
the property within required setbacks without any amendment to this site
plan approval and without further consultation with the Planning Board.
6. Provide an as-built survey to this department upon completion of the barn
construction.
Mary Eisenstein: Second.
Vice-Chairman Rich: Motion made by Martin, seconded by Mary. Any discussion?All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Public Hearings Continued by Court Reporter Jessica DiLallo
UBL'IC HEARING HEaLD.OVER'
6:00 p.m. — Hard Corner Southold Mixed Use—This site plan is for the proposed
construction of a 2-story 4,983 sq. ft. mixed-use building fronting NYS Route 25 with
retail on the first floor and three (3) apartments on the second floor, and 25 parking
stalls; and four (4) 1,597 sq. ft. residential rental units (age-restricted 55+) along Wells
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Avenue, all on 2.28 acres in the Hamlet Business (HB) Zoning District. The property is
located-at 53530 Route 25, Southold. SCTM#1000-61-4-1
Vice-Chairman Rich: Okay, with no further business, can I get a motion for
adjournment?
Mary Eisenstein: I'd like to make a motion for adjournment.
Pierce Rafferty: Second.
Vice-Chairman Rich: Motion made by Mary, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion? All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
There being no further business to come before the Board, the meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
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Donald J. Wilcenski, Chairman
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2 MEMBER RICH: Now we will move onto
3 the Public Hearing. The Public Hearing is
4 held over. It's for -Hard Corner Southold
5 Mixed Use. This site plan is for the
6 proposed construction of a 2-story 4,983
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8 York State Route 25 with retail on the
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10 second floor, and 25 parking stalls; and
11 four (4) 1,597 square feet residential
12 rental units (age-restricted 55+) along
13 Wells Avenue, all on 2.28 acres in. the
14 Hamlet Business (HB) Zoning District. The
15 property is located at 53530 Route 25,
16 Southold. SCTM#1.000-61-4-1.
17 Anyone wishing to address the
18 Southold Town Planning Board on this issue,
19 please step forward, state and sign your
20 name and speak to either mic.
21 MS. MICHAELIS: If you are on Zoom
22 and would like to raise your hand, *9 or
23 the toggle switch on the bottom.
24 MS.. . LANG-EINCZIG: Hi.. My name is,
25 Yvette 'Lang Einczig. And I 'live on Wells
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1 Avenue. My grandparents built their house
2 originally in the 50's. And my neighbors to
3 the left of me, Otto and Judy Smith,
4 they're -- excuse me, Otto and Judy
5 Schmidt. Judy's mother and father, they
6 built in the 50 's and now Otto and Judy are
7 there as well. They just had four
8 generation of family members. My neighbor
9 to the right is the Burn's Family. They
10 are on the third generation of owners. And
11 my other neighbor to the right of them,
12 Ellen, she has been on the creek since
13 1964. So we have very strong roots on
14 Wells Avenue in Southold. All I can say
15 is, I beg of you, please do not let this
16 happen. I walk by the forest every day and
17 I see so many deer and animal -- animals
18 and birds that live there. And if we
19 destroy it, where are they going to go?
20 The deer will come into the neighborhoods
21 to cause more accidents. And the --
22 someone has to stick up for the wildlife
23 and the animals. That corner, there is
24 already so much traffic. It's almost
25 impossible to turn onto Wells. I don't
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1 know if you were aware of that. They want
2 to put shops, well, there is a lot of other
3 vacant shops in the Town of Southold. In
4 fact, I don't think there has been
5 (Inaudible) . And I really don't think it's
6 necessary to have more shops and apartments
7 to displace these many animals and upset so
8 many of the neighbors. Southold is a
9 historic town. We're proud of that. It is
10 founded in 1640. Why do we want a new
11 building? I mean, it's going to change the
12 whole fiber of our Town to put in a new
13 building and shops there. I understand
14 that the developer developed Feather Hill.
15 I don't think there is one person who I
16 came across that thinks Feather Hill isn.'t
17 an eyesore. On top of that, there is other
18 buildings on Horton that is available.
19 Let's put apartments in there for people.
20 There is quite a few other buildings that
21 he can put shops. During the parades, so
22 many kids and families sit on that berm and
23 enjoy the parade. Enjoy the parades and
24 the different social events. Why do we
25 want to lose that? It's just heartbreaking
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1 to think that such a beautiful forest in
2 the middle of our beautiful town is going
3 to be taken down and removed for these
4 apartments and shops. I beg of you, please
5 for all of the neighbors on Wells and a lot
6 of the .Southold community, nobody wants
7 this. I have talked every -- since we knew
8 about this meeting,, I talked to so many
9 people in this town. And all of them agree
10 that nobody in Southold wants this
11 development. And I realize that the
12 gentleman paid a lot of money for the
13 property, well, my suggestion is. maybe that
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14 the Town of Southold should buy it from
15 him. I know that you guys are looking to
16 redo the Annex Building. Why don't we take
17 that money and purchase a property? And
18 put a couple of benches'there and make it a
19 nice park. And let our animals and our
20 deer and our birds have a place to be able
21 to get away from everyone and to be able to
22 live. Also I think that all of the climate
23 change that is going on, this is the last
24 time we need to be pulling down more trees
25 for God's sake. Please. Please don't let
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1 this go through. Thank you very much.
2 MEMBER RICH: We also have someone
3 on Zoom raising their hand to speak.
4 MS. MICHAELIS: Alice and Gannon,
5 you are now able to speak. Please just
6 state your name before you address the
7 Planning Board.
8 MR. ASIP: Thank you. My name is
9 Gannon Asip and my wife Alice, we live at
10 1290 Hill Road West, which, is you know,
11 our driveway is actually on Wells Avenue.
12 I just would like to second the lady who
13 just spoke at the podium. I think she put
14 it as eloquently as possible. I would just
15 add that I drive up and down Wells all the
16 time turning onto Main Street. It' s a
17 very, very, very tricky intersection. You
18 know, you got the entrance and exit from
19 New York and you also have the two exits
20 and entrances coming up Feather Hill. And
21 if stores and apartments are going to be
22 built where the woods are and extra
23 driveways are added to -- you know, the
24 tenants to drive their cars behind any
25 buildings, it's just going to, you know,
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1 make things much more trickier than they
-J 2 already are. You got the Jitney which lets
3 out right on the corner there. Right
4 across from Feather Hill. It's already
5 tricky that intersection and I can't
6 imagine, you know, putting, you know, more
7 stores and many residential apartments
8 there. And again, the deer, they are
9 there. The deer come into the neighborhood
10 a little bit. If their habitat were
11 destroyed, I think it would be very sad.
12 And as the woman mentioned. If they are
13 out and about there could be more
14 accidents. Anyway, my wife and I discussed
15 this and we are very much against building
16 on that corner. We feel it would really be
17 a detriment to the Town and to the
18 immediate area there. Thank you.
19 MS. MICHAELIS: Thank you.
20 MEMBER RICH: Thank you for your
21 input. Everyone's comments are being
22 recorded and we also will play them back
23 and read them as we move forward. And when
24 I say "move forward" as we delve into this
25 situation. Sir, you wanted to speak?
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1 MR. FABIAN: Yes. Thank you. My
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2 name is George Fabian and I am a resident
3 and my mother live at 395 Maier Place. So
4 this has to do with the Boisseau Avenue
5 Farm development. It's really more --
6 MS. MICHAELIS: I am sorry, sir.
7 You can't address the Board about the
8 Boisseau Avenue Farm development. There is
9 not a Public Hearing application for that.
10 If you would like to call the Planning
11 Department, you can speak to Brian. He is
12 the project manager for that application.
13 I don't know if maybe after the hearing,
14 Brian, you can have a minute to speak to
15 him about it. I don't know --
16 MR. FABIAN: The Board would not
17 be able to answer any questions about the
18 development?
19 MEMBER RICH: We would not answer
20 any questions at these meetings anyway.
21 It's a Public Hearing. It is a Public
22 Hearing for this specific piece of property
23 on Wells Avenue. You are more than welcome
24 to send a letter to the Planning Board, if
25 you want. Generally, we do not do Public
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1 Hearing's- on agricultural buildings. You
2 can send a letter in or call Brian
3 tomorrow.
4 MR. FABIAN: Well, I think. a
5 couple of my neighbors have tried to reach
6 out' and kind of got no response whatsoever.
7 That is kind of the reason why I showed up
8 to come over here. The area --
9 MS. MICHAELIS: I am sorry, sir --
10 MR. FABIAN: Who do I speak to
11 after the meeting?
12 MS. MICHAELIS: Brian Cummings.
13 MR. FABIAN: . Okay. Thank you.
14 MEMBER RICH: Thank you. Again,
15 this is a Public Hearing for corner of
16 Wells Avenue on Main Road. If anyone
17 wishes to address the Planning Board on
18 this issue?
19 MS. SPACE: I do. My name is Gigi
20 Space. I have been a resident of Southold
21 for nearly 40 years. Previously had lived
22 on Main Bayview Road. And recently moved
23 to Private Road No. 2, which is completely
24 adjacent to this property. Further
25 introduction of myself is that, I was for
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1 nearly 25 years, manager and director of
2 the Quogue Wildlife Refuge in Quogue. And
3 therefore my background is in conservation,
4 habitat, environment and wildlife. And
5 living now for approximately 9 months on
6 the property adjacent to the corner, I have
7 been able to witness not only the movement
8 of wildlife, but exactly how they move.
9 And I just like to review that for you. I
10 have an overhead view, it' s to good enough
11 to really show people here and you. I can
12 give it to you afterwards. But basically
13 what I see with a learned eye is that the
14 Hard Corner property is really a beginning
15 of a watershed. Many of you not know that,
1.6 understandably. I certainly didn't do,
17 because it's behind the Village. It's
18 behind the businesses. When you go down
19 Private Road #2, along that edge, the Wells
20 Avenue, you can see that the property
21 begins to dip maybe about 2/3 of the way
22 south. It does the same thing along my
23 driveway. And that gully that has formed
24 there, it's really quite an extensive
25 watershed. So the watershed would begin on
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1 Hard Corner property and then it would move
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lu 2 along under my driveway. It's a fairly
3 steep downhill to a freshwater pond. That
4 possibly a few of you know about off of
5 Mechanics Street. So literally to the west
6 of Mechanics Street. So that continues to
7 Mechanics Street and goes into several
8 little wetlands on Mechanics and then
9 continues its way under Young's Avenue to
10 the park there, which a lot of people know
11 as Duck Pond. It's Town Creek Park and the
12 marina there. So the watershed is probably
13 the most thing that I can offer you all to
`f 14 take a look at. And that most of the
15 population here would not know about. Also
16 that watershed, has therefore become what
17 some of the other people noted, and that
18 is, it's a great wildlife corridor. So in
19 addition to deer and foxes and raccoons and
20 opossum, all of which I have seen, there is
21 also turtles. And I had heard this from
22 the previous owners, but I witnessed this
23 myself this spring. So there is a whole
24 lot going on. The only addition I can
25 think of at this moment, as far as habitat,
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1 some of you may know Garden Court, which is
2 a very small street that is off of Wells
3 Avenue. It takes a turn and in between
4 Garden Court and my property is a very
5 narrow linear piece that I think maybe
6 Garden Court owns or administers. So that
7 habitat, though it' s narrow, as far as I
8 know, it's there for perpetuity. It's too
9 small to be developed and it's part of
10 other people's administration. Anyhow,
11 that is a further example of how the
12 wildlife corridor is in existence and
13 working well. The water flow is very
14 important. So my final thing to say is a
15 couple of mistakes have been made. I
16 previously lived on Main Bayview. The
17 notice for this hearing went to Main
18 Bayview, bit obviously the Planning Board
19 knew that I had property in. Private Road
20 #2. But I did not get that notice because
21 the new people in my new house didn't pass
22 it on to me. So I only found out about
23 this new hearing at the previous holding on
24 it by the signs. So in that respect, for
25 me alone, I would really like an extension
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1 of this hearing in order for me to collect
2 facts and interesting things that ya 11
3 should know about. And I can't do that
4 because I only found out about this very
5 recently. The other thing is, and I don't
6 mean if it makes a hell of beans, but
7 Private Road #2 is not a driveway on your
8 site map for Hard Corner. It's not a
9 driveway. It's a street. And I may or may
10 not remember the other thing. So that is a
11 significant thing right there. So it's
12 important for the developer to get his
13 facts straight and for the town, and the
14 for the many of other people who have
15 spoken, stand strong with this property in
16 the middle of town and not unlike the south
17 side which is what we don't really want
18 here. Thank you very much.
19 MEMBER RICH: Thank you. At this
20 one of our members has to be excluded, but
21 we will continue with the hearing. Thank
22 you, Mark.
23 Please state your name.
24 RICHARD: Richard (inaudible), 935
25 Wells, which is immediately adjacent to the
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1 property. Around the corner (inaudible) .
2 I think a lot has been said. By way of
3 background, my educational background,
4 (inaudible) mechanical engineer. My
5 training (inaudible) . We have lived there
6 for 13 years. This property has been for
7 sale off and on for as long as I lived
8 here. Clearly there was an access to the
9 front along Main Road, that looks like
10 something could be built here. (Inaudible)
11 you walk through there, the amount of
12 terrain -- I think it slopes up. From west
13 to east. (Inaudible) the amount of
14 drainage. You look at it and see how
15 narrow it is. (Inaudible) it's almost
16 impossible to think about, what you could
17 build and build driveways and safely access
18 (inaudible) . I would just note that the
19 comments that have been made on the
20 watershed, is right. I don't know where
21 the water is going to go. It's hard to
22 track with all the documents. There is 180
23 page PDF. But it looks like a June 3rd
24 annotation from the Town Engineer that the
25 drainage plan is not clear at all. And I
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1 would say that it's not clear. I would say
2 that given how clear some of the other
3 detail is, there is a reason. At the very
4 least, the drainage is such an important
5 part in the development plan. As you move
6 towards the houses there, that is something
7 that should be afforded for public view.
8 Once the plans are available to the .
9 Planning Board. I think that they should
10 be available for public review for public
11 commentary. It's unclear to me from all
12 the documents. There is a lot here that
13 talks about the application being
14 predicated on being over 55 housing. It's
15 not clear what sort of guideline -- what
16 specifically that means. The intention to
17 rent to people over 55, I don't believe is
18 a town concept and has any -- has any teeth
19 beyond it's rant. I could be wrong and so,
20 please correct me if I am --
21 MEMBER RICH: Just so you know,
22 this is a Public Hearing and we don't
23 answer questions -- and you can give any
24 questions or comments that you have. As we
25 will prepare the SEQRA report, your
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1 questions will be answered in that. So if
- 2 you have a question about 55, it will be a
3 line in the SEQRA, will talk about how that
4 is addressed. So we will not sit here and
5 answer questions --
6 RICHARD: That is fine. So the
7 point that I would like to make for the
8 Board's consideration, will the teeth be
9 there to insure that if -- I realize that
10 my personal preference is that this plan
11 not be approved the way that it's -- we
12 need to review the issues with the terrain
13 and the drainage. In the event that it is
14 approved, littered throughout this
15 application on why there should -- release
16 from the restriction on number of buildings
17 and so on and so forth, it's all predicated
18 that we need housing for over 55. 2 think
19 it would be critical if the Board were to
20 grant the application as-is or less
21 building with a drainage plan, that it's
22 important that has permanent teeth and not
23 later on, people say, we're trying to build
24 housing for seniors. The importance is, if
25 there is going to be any consideration from
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1 the Planning Board, that this is for 55 and
2 over, let's be very clear on what that
3 means and make sure that is deed restricted
4 as opposed to (inaudible) village
5 commercial and do whatever you want.
6 Traffic, it would be hard -- we see people
7 from our window as it sits today. The idea
8 of having those extra driveways, I got a 10
9 year old, when he's riding his bike in
10 those directions, I am sitting there going,
11 I hope it's going to be okay. There is no
12 sidewalk. There is a lot of pedestrian
13 traffic down Wells as well. And you know,
14 I would argue (inaudible) that much more.
15 So I will leave it there. (Inaudible)
16 deficient in the application, is the
17 drainage and the implication of putting all
18 those structures there. I think it's
19 jammed towards the south-end of the
20 property. And I think if the engineers
21 would review the implications of that
22 (inaudible) . Thank you.
23 MEMBER RICH: Thank you, sir.
24 MS. MICHAELIS: We have someone on
25 Zoom.
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1 MEMBER RICH: Bring them in next.
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-� 2 MS. MICHAELIS: Eli, I just
3 brought you in. Please state your name and
4 address the Planning Board. Eli
5 Goldsteiner.
6 MR. GOLDSTEINER: Thank you. My
7 wife and I recently purchased the property
8 at 1595 Wells Avenue and we just like to
9 second the comments that we have heard
10 everyone else make. We are very concerned,
11 this is an excessive development that has
12 not been well thought out as it might had
13 been. Again, we would just second the
14 comments that the people have made and ask
15 that the Board take further submissions and
16 make sure that any approvals be granted
17 with the best interest in the community in
18 mind. Thank you.
19 MEMBER RICH: Thank you, Eli.
20 Next?
21 MR. CHANDLER: Hello. My name is
22 John Chandler. I am a resident on Wells
23 Avenue, 3800. I have lived here for about
24 10 years now. So we're not old timers, but
25 we have been here long enough to appreciate
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1 the town and the way it currently is. And
2 I walked in a little late, so if I am being
3 redundant in some of the things the other
4 people said, I am sorry. But one thing
5 that is kind of concerning to me since we
6 have moved here, is all the available
7 retail space on the Main Road that doesn't
8 seem to get occupied or is occupied
9 briefly. And then, you know, allowed to be
10 empty again. Feather Hill has gotten some
11 of them. So the question is, do we really
12 need more commercial space if it's not
13 going to be filled? And how will we ensure
14 that it happens in such a way that is
15 value. The second point is, you know, the
16 Town really -- it's a charming little town
17 but does not have a center. You know, you
18 just drive through here and the closest
19 thing to a town center is the traffic light
20 at the grocery store. The Town Hall is
21 almost missed by people. And so it' s kind
22 of a shame that it's not more of a Town
23 center and just having another version like
24 Feather Hill to this, is not going to add
25 to that. Make it more like a strip mall.
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2 eventually look like, like a lot of the
3 other town's up island. Just no
4 distinction. No center. So those would be
5 the two concerns that I have. And I am not
6 sure how this all occurred. I was not
7 really on top of it. I have certain
8 empathy for the person who has invested the
9 money here. I would just encourage the
10 Planning Board to think how hard how the
11 impact this will have on this traffic. The
12 last thing we want to do is put in a second
13 traffic light just because there is more
14 traffic than they can happen. On a typical
15 weekend now if I am coming back from the
16 grocery store, I try to make a turn onto
17 Wells Avenue, I sometimes have to wait for
18 a half a dozen cars because people are just
19 running through. And so we would like to
20 not have that exacerbated and not have a
21 need for a second traffic light and a third
22 traffic light. You know, to sort of keep
23 the the Town the way that it is. I only
24 hope that we would put some influence on
25 the way that this gets developed.
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1 (Malfunction in Audio. )
2 UNKNOWN MALE SPEAKER: It's the
3 same road. It's directly adjacent to the
4 property in question on the east. My wife
5 and I have been conning to Southold for a
6 long time. We have four children. Finally
7 we purchased a house last year. So we are
8 new. It seems like (inaudible) been here
9 one year. So we use that as a vacation
10 house now, but eventually we will move here
11 full-time. Hopefully some time soon. And
12 there has been a lot of great points made
13 about the criticism of the proposal.
14 Although for some reason in my mind, I see
15 it as two proposals. I see it as the
16 retail space on Main Road and I see it as
17 the four buildings in the back. I see it
18 as two projects because they don't seem to
19 fit. They don't seem to fit with one
20 another. One has nothing to do with the
21 other. It seems that the developer wanted
22 to build a retail space on Main Road, which
23 has a lot of problems at least -- in my
24 mind, intellectually it makes sense.
25 They're proposing to build these four units
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1 behind the retail space simply because they
2 own the property. The environmental
3 discussion, it's apparent, it's those four
4 buildings that is going to cause the most
5 havoc. They don't below in the Town. They
6 don't belong on Wells Avenue. They don't
7 belong in the very development that they're
8 being built in. And I respect the fact that
9 there is this extra property that this
10 developer is looking to satisfy a need of
11 the Town by creating this housing but
12 reality is, it just doesn't go there. If
13 you look at the Architectural Committee
14 Report in the file, a lot of the
15 suggestions are how to make it look better.
16 The reality is, it can't be made to look
17 better. It just doesn't belong there. Let
18 me just tell you this story. It's going to
19 sound stupid, but I am going to tell it
20 anyway. I woke up and like I do every
21 morning, I went for a walk. I walked the
22 length of the property on -- at the
23 beginning of my walk. It was about 7:30
24 this morning. I walked the length. I see
25 the six deer that are always there on the
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1 property. I know this because they frolic
2 in my front yard a lot but they live there,
3 and migrate as Gigi said. They are there.
4 I took -- I took left turn on Main Road.
5 Took a left turn onto Wells Avenue. And as
6 I was walking down Wells Avenue, I saw a
7 bunny rabbit. Probably (inaudible) always
8 adorable to me, but he was lying on the
9 side of the road. Had just been hit by a
10 car. Lying there. Heartbreaking. I
11 looked at the bunny rabbit. He's alive.
12 He's looking at me. He has these imploring
13 eyes. It was heartbreaking. And
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14 (inaudible) it would be a crime for these
15 buildings to be built here. I came back
16 later, the bunny rabbit was gone. I am
17 thinking it was stunned by the impact of
18 the car and ran into the woods, so I hope.
19 Anyway, I just wanted to make these points.
20 I appreciate the job -- the difficult job
21 that you guys have to do and I know you
22 will do the right thing for the community.
23 Thank you.
24 MEMBER RICH: Thank you, sir. Any
25 one else wish to address the Southold
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1 Planning Board on this?
2 MS. AZEZA: Hi. My name is
3 Margaret Azeza.
4 MEMBER RICH: State your name and
5 write your name?
6 MS. AZEZA: Margaret Azeza. My
7 husband and I bought October in this past
8 year. We don't live on Wells Avenue. I
9 live quite a distance away. Over on Oak
10 Wood. I like to walk three miles a day and
11 I have selected that as my route because
12 it's so beautiful. And it's filled with
13 nature and I enjoy it. And as someone who
14 has just recently purchased, the 2% land
15 tax fee, that is a big chunk of money. We
16 paid it. I ask, if that property came up
17 for sale, how the opportunity was missed?
18 And if it wasn't missed, how come it wasn't
19 selected because it seems like an idea
20 place to invest it. I just wanted to speak
21 because I don't live on Wells. I think I
22 just have as big as interest. I think
23 everybody in the Southold Town does,
24 because we're going to lose some beautiful
25 land.
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1 MEMBER RICH: Does anyone else
2 wish to address the Southold Planning Board
3 on this? Yes, sir.
4 MR. KELLEHER: Good evening. My
5 name is Lenny Kelleher. My partner's name
6 is Maryanne Justin. And just like to echo
7 everybody else. We are here 20 years. My
8 (inaudible) since the 50's. We live on
9 Oakland Avenue. We live in a very, very
10 old house. We love this place because it' s
11 the country. I don't like sidewalks. I
12 like being in the country. I don't like
13 extra stop lights. I like being out in the
14 country. I believe that if you continue
15 with this kind of development, we're just
16 going to become east Riverhead. We want to
17 be very, very careful if we want to keep
18 this as the country. And like somebody
19 said, it's a shame. Property rights, this
20 guy has a right to development his property
21 but as was said, maybe the Peconic Land
22 Trust or the Town can step up and purchase
23 this property. Maybe we can find someone
24 with deep pockets that is coming from the
25 south side. That's all I got. Thanks.
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1 MEMBER RICH: Thank you, sir.
2 Anyone else wish to address the Planning
3 Board on this issue?
4 MS. LANZA: Mr. Chair, I have
5 somebody on the phone here that would like
6 to speak. She couldn't make it and she
7 couldn't make the zoom work. I will put
8 her on the speakerphone.
9 MEMBER RICH: Sounds good.
10 MS. LANZA: Her name is
11 (inaudible) .
12 MEMBER RICH: Hello, Val. How are
13 you?
14 VAL: Pretty good.
15 MS. LANZA: Go ahead and state
16 what your concerns are?
17 VAL: Okay. I am concerned about
18 the traffic issue. Most of the time it's
19 very difficult to get out onto Wells Avenue
20 at the present time and now you're going to
21 put traffic from Feather Hills and
22 (inaudible) America onto Wells already. So
23 if you would please take it into
24 consideration (inaudible) .
25 (Malfunction in Audio) .
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1 VAL: No. I think that is it.
2 MEMBER RICH: Thank you, Val.
3 MS. LANZA: Thank you.
4 MEMBER RICH: Anyone else wishes
5 to address? So I think what we should do
6 here is have a motion to close the hearing
7 and accept for a period of two weeks, two
8 weeks from today, a period for additional
9 written comments and we can --
10 MEMBER EISENSTEIN: I second that.
11 MEMBER RICH: I guess I am the
12 chair and we can make that a motion.
13 MEMBER EISENSTEIN: I second in
14 keeping -- closing the hearing and keeping
15 it open for written comment for two weeks.
16 MEMBER RICH: Pierce, how do you
17 feel about that?
18 MEMBER RAFFERTY: I am fine with
19 that. We have to move it first before it's
20 seconded?
21 MEMBER RICH: So Mary will make a
22 motion and you will second it?
23 MEMBER RAFFERTY: Yes.
24 MEMBER EISENSTEIN: I make a
25 motion.
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1 MEMBER RAFFERTY: I second it.
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2 MEMBER RICH: Any discussion?
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4 MEMBER RICH: All in favor?
5 MEMBER EISENSTEIN: Aye.
6 MEMBER RAFFERTY: Aye.
7 MEMBER RICH: Aye.
8 So we are going to close the
9 Public Hearing and keep the record open for
10 two weeks for public comment -- written
11 comment to the Planning Board.
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4 I, JESSICA DILALLO, a Court Reporter
5 and Notary Public, for and within the State
6 of New York, do hereby certify:
7 THAT the above and foregoing contains
8 a true and correct transcription of the
9 meeting held on August 9, 2021.
10 I further certify that I am not
11 related to any of the parties to this action
12 by blood or by marriage and that I am in no
13 way interested in the outcome of this matter.
14 IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto
15 set my hand this 18th day of September, 2021.
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