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January 11, 2021
6:00 p.m.
Present were: Donald Wilcenski, Chairman
James H. Rich III, Vice-Chairman
Pierce Rafferty, Member
Marti n.Sidor, Member .
Mary Eisenstein, Member
Heather Lanza, Planning Director
Mark Terry, Assistant Planning Director
Brian Cummings, Planner
Jessica Michaelis, Office,Assistant
Chairman Wilcenski: Good Evening and welcome to the scheduled Public Meeting for
Monday, January 11, 2021 for the Southold Town Planning Board. This meeting is public. The
Planning Board may add or remove applications from the Agenda upon its discretion, without
further notice. Applications may not be heard in the order they appear on this agenda.
This public meeting will be held virtually via the Zoom online platform. Pursuant to Executive
Order 202.1 of New York Governor Andrew Cuomo in-person access by the public will not be
permitted.
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Chairman Wilcenski: The first order of business is to set Monday, February 6, 2021 at
6:00 p.m. as the time for the next regular Planning Board Meeting.
James H. Rich III: I make a motion.
Pierce Rafferty: Second.
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Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Jim, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
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RE-ISSUE FINAL DETERMINATIONS:
Chairman Wilcenski: 260 Hortons Lane Resubdivision —This resubdivision
proposes to transfer 0.07 acres (3,240 sq. ft.) from SCTM#1000-61.-1-9.3 to
SCTM#1000-61.-1-3.1. As a result of this resubdivision, Lot 9.3 will decrease in size
from 2.53 acres to 2.46 acres and Lot 3.1 will increase in size from 0.48 acres to 0.55
acres in the HB Zoning District. The properties are located at 260 Hortons Lane and
53095 State Route 25, on the east side of Hortons Lane, +/- 250' northwest of SR 25 in
Southold. SCTM#1000-61.-1-3.1
Pierce Rafferty:
WHEREAS, this resubdivision proposes to transfer 0.074 acres (3,240 sq. ft.) from
SCTM#1000-61.-1-9.4 to SCTM#1000-61.-1-3.1; and
WHEREAS, as a result of this resubdivision, Lot 9.3 will decrease in size from 2.53
acres to 2.46 acres and Lot 3.1 will increase in size from 0.48 acres to 0.55 acres in the
HB Zoning District; and
WHEREAS, the properties are located at 260 Hortons Lane and 53095 State Route 25,
on the east side of Hortons Lane, +/- 250' northwest of SR 25 in Southold; and
WHEREAS, on April 15, 2019, the applicant submitted a resubdivision application for
review by the Southold Town Planning Board; and
WHEREAS, on May 6, 2019, the Planning Board found the resubdivision application
complete at their Work Session; and
WHEREAS, on May 6, 2019, that the Planning Board, pursuant to §240-56 Waivers of
certain provisions, waived the following provisions of subdivision;
a. Article V Sketch Plat Review
b. §240-10 (A): Existing Resources Site Analysis Plan (ERSAP)
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c. §240-10 (8): Yield Plan
d. §240-10 (C): Primary & Secondary Conservation Area Plan
e. Article VI: Preliminary Plat Review; and
WHEREAS, on May 30, 2019, the application was referred to the Suffolk County
Planning Commission for comment; and
WHEREAS, on June 3, 2019, the Public Hearing was held and closed without comment;
and
WHEREAS, on June 24, 2019, the Suffolk County Planning responded that this
application should be a matter for local determination; and
WHEREAS, pursuant to the resubdivision policy set by the Planning Board in February
2011, this application is eligible for decision from the Planning Board prior to receiving
approval by the Suffolk County Department of Health Services (SCDHS) as it meets the
following criterion set forth in that policy:
• Where no new development potential will be created in the parcel to which the
land is transferred; and
WHEREAS, this application is EXEMPT from review by the Local Waterfront
Revitalization Program as no new development potential will come as a result of this
resubdivision; and
WHEREAS, on July 8, 2019, at their Work Session, the Planning Board found the
resubdivision application complete and determined that the proposed action meets all
the necessary requirements of Town Code §240-57 for a resubdivision application; and
WHEREAS, on July 8, 2019, the Planning Board granted final approval for this
resubdivision; and
WHEREAS, the final approval has since expired before the deeds were filed; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board has reviewed a request to re-issue the final approval;
therefore be it
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board hereby waives the requirement to
receive approval from the Suffolk County Department of Health Services prior to
approval of this resubdivision by the Southold Town Planning Board;
James H. Rich III: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Pierce, seconded by Jim. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
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Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Pierce Rafferty: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grants Final Approval upon the
plan entitled, "Lot Line Modification Map of Property", prepared by Nathan Taft Corwin
III, Land Surveyor, dated November 11, 2016, last revised May 22, 2017.
Please Note: The Southold Town Planning Board, in waiving the requirement for
SCDHS approval prior to their own approval, is simply waiving a technical requirement
of Final Plat Approval under the Town Code and makes no representations as to
whether SCDHS approval is required.
James H. Rich III: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Pierce, seconded by Jim. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None. .
Motion carries.
Chairman Wilcenski: Duffy Standard Subdivision —This proposal is for a Standard
Subdivision of a 3.02 acre parcel into two lots, where Lot 1 is 1.69 acres and Lot 2 is
1.33 acres in the R-40 Zoning District. This parcel is located on the west side of the
intersection of Little Peconic Bay Road and Wunneweta Road, Nassau Point,
Cutchogue. SCTM#1000-111-11-26.1
James H. Rich III:
WHEREAS, this proposal is for a Standard Subdivision of a 3.02 acre parcel into two
lots, where Lot 1 is 1.69 acres and Lot 2 is 1.33 acres, located at 3360 Wunneweta
Road, on the northwest side of the intersection of Little Peconic Bay Road and
Wunneweta Road, in the R-40 Zoning; and
WHEREAS, on July 9, 2018, the Planning Board granted a Conditional Sketch Plan
Approval upon the application; and
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WHEREAS, on October 26, 2018, the applicant submitted a Preliminary Plat application
and fee; and
WHEREAS, on November 5, 2018, the Planning Board found the Preliminary Plat
application complete at their work session; and
WHEREAS, on January 14, 2019, the Public Hearing was held and closed; and
WHEREAS, on January 15, 2019, the Suffolk County Planning Commission responded
WHEREAS, on March 11, 2019, at their work session, the Planning Board reviewed the
Public Hearing comments and the comments returned from the applicable and involved
agencies in which the application was referred to for comment, and all applicable
comments were incorporated into the application to the satisfaction of the Planning
Board; and
WHEREAS, on March 11, 2019, at their Public Meeting, the Southold Town Planning
Board, as Lead Agency pursuant to SEQRA, made a determination of non-significance
for the proposed action and granted a Negative Declaration; and
WHEREAS, on May 6, 2019, the Planning Board from this application consistent with
the policies of the LWRP; and
WHEREAS, on May 6, 2019, the Planning Board granted a Conditional Preliminary Plat
Approval upon the application; and
WHEREAS, on June 26, 2019, the applicant submitted a draft Final Plat for review; and
WHEREAS, on September 6, 2019, the applicant submitted a Final Plat application fee,
and prematurely submitted the Park & Playground fee of$6,750, and the administration
fee of$4,000; and
WHEREAS, on September 9, 2019, the Planning Board found the Final Plat application
complete; and
WHEREAS, on November 4, 2019, at their work session, the Planning Board waived
the requirement for a Final Plat public hearing due to the Final Plat being in substantial
agreement with the Preliminary Plat; and
WHEREAS, on November 4, 2019, the Planning Board granted a Conditional Final Plat
Approval upon the application; and
WHEREAS, on December 5, 2019, the applicant's agent submitted proof of filing of the
covenants and restrictions under Liber D00013035, Page 661 and also submitted the
required missing portion of the Park & Playground Fee of$250; and
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WHEREAS, on August 14, 2020, the applicant's agent submitted the required number
of paper and mylar Final Plats including .the approval stamp of the Suffolk County
Department of Health Services; and
WHEREAS, on October 2, 2020, the applicant's agent provided proof that the concrete
boundary monuments have all been installed as shown on the Final Plat; and
WHEREAS, all the conditions of Conditional Final Plat Approval were found to have
been met; and
WHEREAS, on October 5, 2020, the Planning Board issued Final Plat Approval for the
application; and
WHEREAS, the Final Plat Approval expired before the applicant could file the map; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board has reviewed the request to reissue the Final Plat
Approval and found that it is appropriate to do so; be it therefore
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board hereby grants Final Plat Approval
upon the map entitled, "Final Plat for Duffy Standard Subdivision," prepared by Kenneth
Woychuk, Land Surveyor, dated August 1, 2015, and last revised October 5, 2019, and
authorizes the Chairman to endorse the map.
Martin.Sidor: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Jim, seconded by Martin. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
EXTENSION CONDITIONAL FINAL PLAT DETERMINATION:
Chairman Wilcenski: Bing Conservation Subdivision —This proposal is for a 75/75
split clustered Conservation Subdivision of 84.72 acres, currently existing as two
adjacent parcels, SCTM#1000-95-1-8.3 (54.24 acres) and SCTM#1000-95-1-7.2 (30.49
acres), into 8 residential lots ranging in size from 1.86 to 4.11 acres, a right of way of
2.48 acres, and 2 agricultural lots totaling 60.38 acres from which development rights
are proposed to be sold to Suffolk County, in the AC and R-80 Zoning Districts. The
property is located at 6795 & 7755 Oregon Road, approximately 1,481 ft. west of Duck
Pond Road, in Cutchogue. SCTM#1000-95-1-7.2 & 8.3
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Martin Sidor:
WHEREAS, this proposal is for a 75/75 split clustered Conservation Subdivision of
84.72 acres, currently existing as two adjacent parcels, SCTM 1000-95-1-8.3 (54.24
acres) and SCTM 1000-95-1-7.2 (30.49 acres), into 8 residential lots ranging in size
from 1.86 to 4.38 acres, a right of way of 2.48 acres, and 2 agricultural lots totaling
60.38 acres from which development rights are proposed to be sold to Suffolk County,
in the AC and R-80 zoning districts; and
WHERES, on March 12, 2020 the Town of Southold declared a state of emergency due
to the COVID-19 Pandemic; and
WHEREAS, Conditional Final Plat Approval, was granted by the Planning Board on July
6, 2020 and expired on January 2, 2021 pursuant to Chapter 240. Subdivision of Land
Article VII. Final Plat Review§ 240-25. Final plats not in substantial agreement with
approved preliminary plats or when no preliminary plat is required (C) of the Southold
Town Code; and
WHEREAS, on December 16, 2020 the applicant's agent submitted an email requesting
a 180-day extension of Conditional Final Plat Approval from January 2, 2021 to July 1,
2021; therefore, be it
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grants a retroactive extension of
Conditional Final Plat Approval from January 2, 2021 to July 1, 2021.
Mary Eisenstein: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Martin, seconded by Mary. Any discussion? All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
SET SKETCH PLAN HEARING:
Chairman Wilcenski: Colusa North Conservation Subdivision —This proposal is for
an 80/60 Conservation Subdivision of 66.2 acres into 11 residential lots ranging in size
from 0.8 acres to 2 acres with a private road (2.5 acres), and an agricultural lot of 51.26
acres, from which development rights are proposed to be sold to the Town of Southold
in the AC and R-80 zoning districts. The property is located at 7750 Bridge Lane,
Cutchogue. SCTM#1000-84-2-1.1, 3.3, 3.4
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Mary Eisenstein:
WHEREAS, this proposal is for an 80/60 Conservation Subdivision of 66.2 acres into 11
residential lots ranging in size from 0.8 acres to 2 acres with a private road (2.5 acres),
and an agricultural lot of 51.26 acres, from which development rights are proposed to be
sold to the Town of Southold in the AC and R-80 zoning districts; and
WHEREAS, on September 30, 2020, the agent submitted a Sketch Plan application;
and
WHEREAS, at their work session on December 21, 2020, the Planning Board found the
Sketch Plan application complete when the applicant submitted the revised Full
Environmental Assessment, which was done that afternoon; and
WHEREAS, on January 7, 2021, the application was referred to the relevant
departments, committees and agencies; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to State Environmental
Quality Review Act (SEQRA) 6 NYCRR, Part 617, has reviewed the application for
classification of the type of action and has determined that the proposed action is an
Unlisted Action as it does not meet any of the thresholds of a Type I Action, nor does it
meet any of the criteria on the Type II list of actions; be it therefore
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board has determined that this proposed
action is an Unlisted Action under SEQRA as described above;
Pierce Rafferty: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Mary, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion? All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Mary Eisenstein: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board sets Monday, February 8, 2021 at
6:01 p.m. for a Public Hearing upon the map entitled "Colusa 26285 C.R.48 80/60
Conservation Subdivision", prepared by Andrew Stolzenberg, Licensed Professional
Engineer of Barrett Bonacci &Van Weele PC, dated August 5, 2019, and last revised
August 31, 2020.
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Pierce Rafferty: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Mary, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion?All
in favor-?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
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DETERMINATION:
Chairman Wilcenski: North Fork Self Storage #3 —This site plan is for the proposed
construction of two (2) 2-story self-storage buildings at 53,800 sq. ft. and 37,750 sq. ft.
which includes a 300 sq. ft. office; and 18 parking stalls on 3.7 acres in the Light
Industrial Zoning District. The property is located at 65 Commerce Drive, Cutchogue.
SCTM#1000-96-1-1.3
Pierce Rafferty:
WHEREAS, this Site Plan is for the proposed construction of two (2) 2-story self-storage
buildings at 53,800 sq. ft. and 37,750 sq. ft. which includes a 300 sq. ft. office; and 18
parking'stalls on 3.7 acres in the Light Industrial Zoning District; and
WHEREAS, on March 17, 2020, in a state of emergency response to the COVID-19
public health pandemic, the Town of Southold closed its offices to non-essential
employees including the Planning Department; and
WHEREAS, on April 6, 2020, Martin Kosmynka submitted a portion of a revised site
plan application; and
WHEREAS, on May 26, 2020, the Town of Southold re-opened its offices to non-
essential employees at 50% capacity; and
WHEREAS, on August 3, 2020 and August 14, 2020, Martin Kosmynka, owner,
submitted additional site plan application information for review; and
WHEREAS, on August 10, 2020, the Southold Town Planning Board accepted the
application as complete for review; and
WHEREAS, on August 10, 2020, the Planning Board, pursuant to State Environmental
Quality Review Act (SEQRA) 6 NYCRR, Part 617, determined that the proposed action
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is an Unlisted Action as it does not meet any of the thresholds of a Type I Action, nor
does it meet any of the criteria on the Type 11 list of actions; and
WHEREAS, on August 15, 2019, the Planning Board, pursuant to Southold Town Code
§280-131 C., distributed the application to the required agencies for their comments;
and
WHEREAS, on September 14, 2020, a Public Hearing was held and closed; and
WHEREAS, on October 20, 2020, the Suffolk County Planning Commission (SCPC)
provided comments regarding the proposed action; and
WHEREAS, on October 28, 2020, the Town of Southold Local Waterfront Revitalization
Program Coordinator reviewed the proposed project and determined the project to be
consistent with Southold Town LWRP policies with recommendations to the Planning
Board; and
WHEREAS, on November 13, 2020, the Architectural Review Committee (ARC)
approved the proposed action as submitted; and
WHEREAS, on December 2, 2020, the Southold Town Engineer reviewed the proposed
application and determined that revisions to the site plan were required in order to meet
the minimum requirements of Chapter 236 for Storm Water Management. The required
revisions were incorporated into the Grading and Drainage plan; and
WHEREAS, on December 2, 2020, the Southold Town Fire Inspector reviewed and
determined that the buildings were required to be constructed with fire suppression
sprinklers, and that there was adequate fire protection and emergency access for the
site; and
WHEREAS, on December 4, 2020, the Cutchogue Fire District determined there was
adequate fire protection for the site; and
WHEREAS, at a Work Session on December 7, 2020, the Southold Town Planning
Board reviewed the proposed application and required revisions to the Site Plan to
make it comply with various applicable sections of the Town Code; and
WHEREAS, on December 7, 2020, the Southold Town Planning Board, as Lead Agency
pursuant to SEQRA, made a determination of non-significance for the proposed action,
and granted a Negative Declaration; and
WHEREAS, on December 22, 2020, the Suffolk County Department of Health Services
(SCDHS) granted approval for this project under their reference #C-20-0011 for"Mini-
Storage at 18gpd"; and
WHEREAS, on January 4, 2021, Martin Kosmynka, owner, submitted a revised site
plan, grading & drainage plan; photometric plan, and SCDHS plan for review; and
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WHEREAS, at their virtual work session held on January 11, 2021, the Southold Town
Planning Board reviewed the revised site plan, revised photometric plan and the
approved SCDHS plan; and
WHEREAS, on January 11, 2021, the Southold Town Planning Board determined that
all applicable requirements of the Site Plan Regulations, Article XXIV, §280 Site Plan
Approval of the Town of Southold were met; and
WHEREAS, on January 11, 2021, the Southold Town Chief Building Inspector reviewed
and certified the proposed Warehouse Mini Storage as a permitted use in the Light
Industrial (LI) Zoning District; therefore be it
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board has determined that this proposed
action is consistent with the policies of the Town of Southold Local Waterfront
Revitalization Program;
James H. Rich III: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Pierce, seconded by Jim. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Pierce Rafferty: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board hereby grants Approval with
Conditions, listed below, of the site plan entitled "North Fork Self Storage #3" prepared
by Kenneth H. Beckman, L.S., dated March 2018, and last revised December 22, 2020,
and authorizes the Chairman to endorse the plans listed below:
Sheet 1 —Site Layout (dated 3/2018; last revised 12/22/20)
Sheet 2— Erosion Control and Planting Plan (dated 3/2020; last revised 12/22/20)
Elevations— Building A (dated 4/10/20; last revised 8/12/20)
Elevations— Building B (dated 4/10/20; last revised 8/12/20)
1St Floor,Plan—Building A (dated 4/10/20; last revised 7/29/20)
2nd Floor Plan— Building A (dated 4/10/20; last revised 7/29/20)
1St Floor Plan — Building B (dated 4/10/20; last revised 7/29/20)
2nd Floor Plan— Building B (dated 4/10/20; last revised 7/29/20)
Sheet SP— 1 a Site Lighting Plan and Details (dated 4/10/20; last revised 12/14/20)
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Conditions
1. All exterior lighting on the property shall comply with the provisions of Chapter 172 of
the Town Code and the lighting plan of the approved site plan. Any future exterior
light fixtures not shown on the approved site plan must be reviewed for compliance
and approved by the Planning Board prior to installation.
2. All trees and landscaping are required to be maintained by the property owner as
shown on the approved site plan. Should a tree die or otherwise be destroyed, it
must be replaced by the property owner with the same species and size as shown
on the approved site plan during the next planting season for the particular plant
material. Any change in tree or landscaping species must be approved in writing by
the Planning Board.
James H. Rich III: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Pierce, seconded by Jim. Any discussion? All in
favor? .
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
APPROVAL EXTENSION:
Chairman Wilcenski: Tenedios Barn & Greenhouse Amended —This amended
agricultural site plan is for the addition of a 60' x 24' (1,440sq. ft.) greenhouse to a site
where a one story 8,664 sq. ft. building to house livestock and store feed, supplies and
farm equipment has conditional approval from the Planning Board, on.a 34.5 acre farm,
of which 29.5 acres have development rights held by Southold Town and 5 acres have
development rights intact (the greenhouse is located in the 5-acre area and the barn is
located in the 29.5-acre area) in the R-200 Zoning District. The property is located at
28410 Route 25, Orient. SCTM#1000-19-1-1.4 & 1.3
James H. Rich III:
WHEREAS, this amended agricultural site plan is for the addition of a 60' x 24' (1,440
sq. ft.) greenhouse to a site where a one story 8,664 sq. ft, building to house livestock
and store feed, supplies and farm equipment has conditional approval from the Planning
Board, on a 34.5 acre farm, of which 29.5 acres have development rights held by
Southold Town and 5 acres have development rights intact (the greenhouse is located
in the 5-acre area and the barn is located in the.29.5-acre area) in the R-200 Zoning
District; and
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WHEREAS, on July 9, 2019, the Planning Board determined certain conditions to be
met and therefore granted approval to the amended site plan application described
above; and
WHEREAS, on July 8, 2020 the applicant requested a site plan amendment to relocate.
the 8,664 sq. ft. building and submitted an amended application for review which is
currently pending before the Planning Board; and
WHEREAS, on January 3, 2.021, Steven Tenedios, owner, submitted a request for
Extension of Site Plan Approval for two (2) years to January 11, 2023; and
WHEREAS, ata Work Session held on January 11, 2021, the Planning Board reviewed
the application and determined that the expired Site Plan was in compliance with
current rules and regulations with exception of the items details in the January 11, 2021
staff report, and granted an extension of two years to January 11, 2023; and
WHEREAS, pursuant to §280-132(A) [...all terms and conditions of any approved site
plan or approved amendment are immediately enforceable, and compliance is required
prior to the commencement of the approved use, unless the Planning Board expressly
states an alternative period of time for compliance within the site plan approval; and
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grants an Extension of Approval
With Conditions, listed below, for (2) two years from January 11, 2021 to January 11,
2023 of the site plan entitled "Amended Site Plan for Tenedios Farm", prepared by
Jeffrey T. Butler, P.E. dated March 22, 2017 and last revised July 1, 2019.
Conditions of approval (ongoing)
Tenedios Barn & Greenhouse Amended Site Plan Application
1. The purpose of this amended site plan is to consolidate and replace the plan that
received conditional site plan approval on January 14, 2019, entitled "Tenedios
Farm", prepared by Jeffrey T. Butler P.E., dated March 22, 2017 and last revised
October 16, 2018; and to acknowledge the proposed construction of a 1,440 sq.
'ft. greenhouse;
2. The public is not permitted to access the barn or greenhouse;
3. The barn and the driveway to the barn shall be used for agricultural purposes
only as per the Town's easement;
4. Livestock grazing, paddocks, shelters and enclosures shall be located outside
the vegetated buffers shown on the site plan;
5. Livestock shall be prevented from entering the vegetated buffers;
6. Buffers:
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Vegetated Buffers 2 & 3 shall be managed for the following benefits:
a. Provide denitrification and nutrient uptake;
b. Slow water runoff and enhance infiltration;
c. Trap pollutants in surface runoff& subsurface flow;
d. Stabilize soils.
Vegetated Buffer 1 shall be managed to maintain existing trees, shrubs and
groundcover;
7. Signs:
Any sign that requires a sign permit must be reviewed and approved by the
Planning Board prior to installation;
8. Lighting:
No exterior lights were reviewed or approved in connection with this amended
site plan. Any exterior lights on or around the outside of this greenhouse must be
reviewed and approved by the Planning Board and must meet Town Code §172
Lighting;
9. The Planning Board strongly encourages the property owner to follow the
guidelines developed by the USDA for sustainable numbers of animals on
pasture. The Board further encourages the farm owner to request a nutrient
management plan for the animal husbandry portion of the farm, as well as
consulting with the USDA Natural Resource Conservation Service (NRCS). The
Board also strongly encourages the property owner to develop a Comprehensive
Nutrient Management Plan (CLAMP) to address nutrient loading.to surface and
ground waters by working with the Suffolk County Soil and Water Conservation
District and/or USDA NRCS.
Martin Sidor: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Jim, seconded by Martin. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
SET HEARINGS:
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Chairman Wilcenski: Olde Colonial Place LLC—This Site Plan is for the proposed
construction of a 4,500 sq. ft. building to consist of four (4) retail units with full basement
for storage and twenty-four parking stalls on 0.5 acres in the HB Zoning District. The
property is located at 615 Pike Street, Mattituck. SCTM#1000-140-2-21
Martin Sidor:
WHEREAS, this Site Plan is for the proposed construction of a 4,500 sq. ft. building to
consist of four (4) retail units with full basement for storage and twenty-four parking
stalls on 0.5 acres in the HB Zoning District; therefore be it
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board sets Monday, February 8, 2021 at
6:04 p.m. for a Public Hearing regarding the Site Plan entitled "Olde Colonial Place
LLC' prepared by Walter Merrill Dunn Jr., P. E., dated August 23, 2019 and last revised
April 24, 2020.
Mary Eisenstein: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Martin, seconded by Mary. Any discussion? All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Chairman Wilcenski: Heritage at Cutchogue Amended (aka Harvest Pointe) —This
amended site plan proposes to change eight of the approved units from the B2 unit
design (livable floor area 1,599 sq. ft.) to a revised C unit design (livable floor area
1,999 sq. ft.). The livable floor area will increase by a total of 3,200 sq. ft. for the overall
site. The property is located at 75 Schoolhouse Road, Cutchogue. SCTM#1000-102-1-
33.3
Mary Eisenstein:
WHEREAS, this amended site plan proposes to change eight of the approved units
from the B2 unit design (livable floor area 1,599 sq. ft.) to a revised C unit design
(livable floor area 1,999 sq. ft.). The livable floor area will increase by a total of 3,200 sq.
ft. for the overall site; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to State Environmental
Quality Review Act (SEQRA) 6 NYCRR, Part 617.5 (c), determined that the proposed
action is a Type II Action as it falls within the following description for 6 NYCRR, Part
617.5(c)(7) "construction or expansion of a primary or accessory/appurtenant, non-
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residential structure or facility involving less than 4,000 square feet of gross floor area
and not involving a change in zoning or a use variance and consistent with local land
use controls, but not radio communication or microwave transmission facilities"; be it
therefore
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board has determined that this proposed
action is a Type II Action under SEQRA as described above;
Pierce Rafferty: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Mary, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion? All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Mary Eisenstein: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board sets Monday, February 8, 2021 at.
6:02 p.m. for a Public Hearing regarding the Site Plan entitled "Proposed Overall Unit
Layout" prepared by Gregory David Peterman, L.S, dated November 12, 2020.
Pierce Rafferty: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Mary, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion? All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion.carries.
Chairman Wilcenski: Wickham Road LLC Offices —This site plan is for the proposed
conversion of an existing 770 sq. ft. accessory apartment to a principle office structure,
no footprint expansion or basement, with four (4) parking stalls on 0.23 acres in the
Hamlet Business Zoning District. The property is located at 12800 Route 25, Mattituck.
SCTM#1000-114-11-15
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Pierce Rafferty:
WHEREAS, this site plan is for the proposed conversion of an existing 770 sq. ft.
accessory apartment to a principle office structure, no footprint expansion or basement,
with four (4) parking stalls on 0.23 acres in the Hamlet Business Zoning District,
Mattituck; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to State Environmental
Quality Review Act (SEQRA) 6 NYCRR, Part 617.5 (c), determined that the proposed
action is a Type II Action as it falls within the following description for 6 NYCRR, Part
617.5(c)(2) ". . . replacement, rehabilitation or reconstruction of a structure or facility, in
kind, on the same site, including upgrading buildings to meet building or fire codes; be it
therefore
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board has determined that this proposed
action is a Type II Action under SEQRA as described above;
James H. Rich III: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Pierce, seconded by Jim. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Pierce Rafferty: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board sets Monday, February 8, 2021 at
6:03 p.m. for a Public Hearing regarding the Site Plan entitled "Wickham Road LLC"
prepared by Frank W. Uellendahl, R. A., dated September 21, 2020 and last revised
December 29, 2020.
James H. Rich III: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Pierce, seconded by Jim. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
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None.
Motion carries.
Chairman Wilcenski: Peconic Landing Amended Wellness Center—This amended
site plan is for the proposed construction of a 1,138 sq. ft. addition to the existing
Wellness Center and a reconfiguration of the parking lot in front of the subject addition
and the entrance to the existing Community Center, all part of an existing continuing
care retirement community on 144 acres in the Hamlet Density Zoning District. The
property is located at 1205 Route 25, Greenport. SCTM#1000-35-1-25
James H. Rich III: Mr. Chairman, I make a motion to TABLE this application.
Mary Eisenstein: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Jim, seconded by Mary. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
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PUBLIC_HEA�RINGS
Chairman Wilcenski: 6:01 p.m. - Koehler Family Limited Partnership - This
proposal is a Clustered Standard Subdivision of a 14.94 acre parcel into seven lots
where Lot 1 equals 0.80 acres; Lot 2 equals 0.90 acres inclusive of 0.08 acres of
unbuildable lands; Lot 3 equals 1.11 acres inclusive of 0.14 acres of unbuildable lands
and .07 acres of easement area; Lot 4 equals 0.70 acres; Lot 5 equals 0.66 acres; Lot 6
equals 0.70 acres; Lot 7 equals 9.51 acres inclusive of 8.72 acre area of Open Space
and a .05 right of way easement; located in the R-80 Zoning District. The property is
located.at 4180 New Suffolk Avenue, on the corner of Marratooka Road and New
Suffolk Avenue, in Mattituck. SCTM#1000-115-10-1
Chairman Wilcenski: At this point, I'd like to open up the floor to anyone attending.
Please direct your questions or concerns to the Board. If there is anyone here
representing this application, we would like to give you the first opportunity to speak.
Mike Kimack: Good Afternoon, this is Mike Kimack, can you hear me?
Chairman Wilcenski: Yes, Mike, thank you. You're representing the Koehler Family?
Mike Kimack: Yes, late in the game though, I came in primarily to help assist with
finalizing with Planning and to help to move forward with the Health Department—which
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is obviously not your concern. I did have a chance to look over the September 17, 2020
letter that was submitted to Mr. Koehler in terms of points that the Planning Board made
- Mark Terry made. There are some minor revisions on the plan before you. I had a
chance to submit one of those copies to Mark today; his recommendations were little
things like: take the farm stands off, name the road, identify the easement going to the
house, remove language identifying the IA system on Lot 3. 1 submitted it for Mark to
take a look at to go over and make sure that it is complete as far as Planning is
concerned because—once it's acceptable to you — I need to submit the plan to the
Health Department who will stamp that and return those 8 stamped with the 4 mylars
back to Planning for your stamped approval. So it's one plan for both entities but it has
to have all of the same acceptable information on it for both.
Chairman Wilcenski: Thank you, Mike. Yes, just to summarize what Mike said: I think
the big item would be the removal of the farm stand that was on the site plan.
Mike Kimack: That has been done on the one submitted to Mark, I know I only
submitted it today— he probably hasn't even looked at it yet. The day of the hearing isn't
the best time to submit something, but I just got it back from the surveyor, so if he has a
chance to look at it. Hopefully it will adhere to all of his recommendations.
Chairman Wilcenski: Thank you. Is there anyone else in attendance that would like to
address the Board on this project?
Heather Lanza: I would just like to add that anyone who wishes to speak, please click
the "raise hand" feature in'Zoom and you will be able to speak in the order of which you
raised your hand. I do see here there is someone with the last name Dellaquilla, I will
now allow them to speak.
Chairman Wilcenski: Thank you. Please be sure to unmute yourself before speaking.
Thank you.
Denise Dellaquilla: Good evening everyone. A couple of questions: How big are the
homes going to be?
Chairman Wilcenski: I'm unaware of the actual square footage of the homes at this
time; does the staff have any input on this question?
Mark Terry: Well it's 20% of the total lot area and it's also established by building
envelopes. You do have first and second story homes, but we don't have plot plans
within this office, so we don't have a visual on how large these homes can be.
Heather Lanza: I'm so sorry to interrupt, would you please identify yourself for the
record? Please be sure to say your name each time you speak.
Denise Dellaquilla: Oh sure, my name is Denise Dellaquilla, 4725 New Suffolk Ave.
Mattituck. How do you decide what size the homes would be? So it's 20% of the lot
size, how would you describe that in layman's terms?
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Chairman Wilcenski: Mark, would you like to answer that?
Mark Terry: Yes, Mark terry. It's math, it's the total lot area multiplied by 20% and then
you have your front, rear and side yard setbacks that control a building envelope. The
principle structure is located within the building envelope.
Denise Dellaquilla: Okay, and what about the streetlights? Would this be a regular
neighborhood or would it be a private community?
Chairman Wilcenski: No, it's going to be a public road, I believe we originally thought
about having a streetlight at the end but I think that was removed, if I'm correct.
Mike Kimack: Mike Kimack, I believe that's correct. When I went through he letter from
September 17 -that was one of the recommendations that was agreed to that the street
light was to be removed. I think the street light was at the beginning of the road but that
has been taken away and is no longer a part of the plan.
Denise Dellaquilla: Are all the utilities going to be underground?
Chairman Wilcenski: Yes, that's correct, everything will be underground.
Denise Dellaquilla: Is the.Koehler family planning on living here or are they trying to
get this done in order for them to be able to sell the property with all of the permits in
place.
Chairman Wilcenski: That's something that we don't know and it's really not our privy
to find out right now, it's their property and it is up to the Koehler family.
Denise Dellaquilla: Are any of the homes going to have waterfront access?
Chairman Wilcenski: Yes, I can't remember which ones offhand, Mark can you help
me out?
Mark Terry: Yes, Mark Terry. So there's two points of waterfront access on this plan.
Can everybody see the plan? So there is an access proposed between Lots 2 and 3 as
you can see right here, there is a pad area in anticipation of a dock. The secondary
access is along this property line, you'll see the proposed stairs? And that would provide
access to the non-waterfront parcels.
Denise Dellaquilla: What are the setbacks for the property line closest to the water?
Chairman Wilcenski: Mark, do you have a plan that shows....
Mark Terry: That shows what? The setback? Well there's a non-disturbance buffer so
the non-disturbance buffer is the limitation of building, okay? Except for the existing
cottage, which is located here. We couldn't create a non-disturbance buffer- obviously-
because it's already disturbed. So it's been jogged to accommodate this existing
cottage.
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Denise Dellaquilla: Is that cottage going to stay? And is it going to stay that size?
Mark Terry: That was a Planning Board question at the last meeting and the owner has
indicated that the cottage will remain.
Denise Dellaquilla: Will they try to make that cottage larger or will it stay the same size.
Mark Terry: That is unknown.
Denise Dellaquilla: Okay...is the current road that is there now, that goes back
towards the cottage and the back home, is that road staying as well?
Mark Terry: The current road is a dirt driveway that runs from New Suffolk Avenue all
the way to a parcel that's improved. No, that will be removed; there will be a driveway
easement off of the cul-de-sac that will serve that parcel.
Denise'Dellaguilla: Oh okay, you know, it's kind of hard to read unless you're in the
know so thank you. Thank you for explaining that to all of us, I appreciate it.
Mark Terry: Absolutely, I agree with you.
Chairman Wilcenski: Thank you; do you have any other questions?
Denise Dellaquilla: I don't have any other questions other than, maybe if you have and
would like to give us any insight as to what.we might find to be important or pertinent
information that you can share with us that we maybe wouldn't know to ask questions.
So if there's anything that you would like to share with us also? Although, my husband
does have a question also...
Frank Dellaquilla: I just have one last question, my name is Frank Dellaquilla. The
open space that is going to be available there on the corner of Maratooka and New
Suffolk:.is that going to be groomed property? Is it going to be grass? Is it going to be
left natural? What is their plan or is there no plan at this point?
Chairman Wilcenski: Right now it is basically left up to the owner, they could possibly
use it as agricultural land and grow certain products or they could just leave it open as it
is now.
Frank Dellaquilla: Thank you.
Chairman Wilcenski: Thank you.
Heather Lanza: I have Ann Smith, I'm clicking "allow to speak," you'll just have to
unmute yourself.
Ann Smith: Hi everyone, Ann Smith, I live on Camp Mineola Road in Mattituck. I'm
actually asking questions tonight as president of the Mattituck-Laurel Civic Association
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although I walk by that property almost every day— it's a beautiful road. My questions
for the civic are always in the context of the Southold Town Comprehensive Plan, so we
sort of look at projects before the Planning Board in that context so we can be sure we
are learning more about the plan when we ask questions and also to see how the town
is implementing the plan when having these discussions and making these approvals.
So my questions are in that context and actually Dee and Frank asked a lot of my
questions, so thank you.
So the first one has to do with Chapter 5 of the plan, goal 3: preserving quality of life in
residential neighborhoods, things about traffic, safety, noise, light and the character, in
particular, house size. So I'd like to further question on the lots, are the house size
restrictions or limits based on the actual size of the lot or based on the number of
homes as if the whole property were divided evenly.
Chairman Wilcenski: They are based on the lot size that we're intending to be
approved and it's all based on — like Mark Terry said earlier— it's 20% of each lot.
Ann Smith: Okay so it's the actual lot that we see drawn there. And you mentioned a
farm stand, but that's now removed.
Chairman Wilcenski: Yes.
Ann Smith: What about lot 7, it shows a dotted line on Maratooka, is that a property for
a home or a building, what is that line about?
Chairman Wilcenski: Lot 7 is a building lot.
Ann Smith: So that would be a home, I didn't know if it would be a structure for the
Farm stand or something...
Chairman Wilcenski: No, that would be under the same guise as the other lots, so it
would be a buildable lot based on 20% of lot coverage for a home. The open space,
originally there was talk about a possible barn, but right now there is no indication that
the owner is planning on constructing any buildings on that property.
Ann Smith: And is what you would be approving, is that a final determination? In other
words, if this is approved and then the owner sells this entire property, can the new
owner come back and ask for something different? Hypothetically...
Chairman Wilcenski: No, not in anything major. They may request small things to be
changed but this would be pretty much the final plan for the project.
Ann Smith: My other questions had to do with this farm stand, I didn't understand. But
do you know, if the lots will be sold and then individual owners will decide what to build
there? Or is the plan inclusive of coming back with someone developing the homes and
then selling the homes, do you know?
Chairman Wilcenski: I'm sorry are you talking about the farm stand or the lots?
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Ann Smith: No, no. I'm back to the homes.
Chairman Wilcenski: Okay, just to be clear, the farm stand is off the table. But the lots,
again, it's going to be up to the owners as far as building the homes. We don't know if
there is any intention of building homes prior or if they will develop it themselves.
Ann Smith: My final question: is this the last hearing on this property or are there other
opportunities, is there more work to be done before you issue the permits?
Chairman Wilcenski: There is more work for us to do but this is scheduled to be the
last public hearing.
Ann Smith: And then this question is kind of about this project but- in general-for the
Planning Board. When projects like this are in front of you, is the context of the goals of
the Comprehensive Plan, is that sort of a measure you use? When we're looking at
things, I kind of want to know how to go back and forth,between what developers and
owners are asking for and how you approach evaluating proposals.
Chairman Wilcenski: Yes, we had several revisions of the lots where there was
originally proposed a couple of lots along Lupton's Point Road, where either we or the
neighbors had some concerns. So there were several changes in the process of this-
over went over probably 2 or 3 years now. Keeping open space and the natural vistas
coming down New Suffolk Avenue going.east, we felt that open space was a very
important aspect of this. Lot 7 was added because of their yield on the property and we
kept it away from Lupton's Point. And the other lots were put over on the east end of the
property because there were already residential lots and homes in that area.
Ann Smith: Just one final question, I just hope when everything is determined- as
someone who does walk and use a bike on that road- it is becoming a more dangerous
road as time goes by so I hope all decisions keep the safety of pedestrian and people
on their bikes in mind. Thank you.
Chairman.Wilcenski: Thank you. Heather would you bring in the next attendee?
Heather Lanza: Yes, Aaron Bokros.
Aaron Bokros: Yes, hi this is Aaron Bokros, can you hear me?
Chairman Wilcenski: Yes Aaron, Welcome.
Aaron Bokros: Sorry, I misspelled my last name; I am a resident of New Suffolk
Avenue in Mattituck. My concern is— if this is the last meeting on this — considering its
proximity to wetlands, can anybody speak to if there's been any DEC involvement at
this point, concerning the addition of— it looks like— at least 6, if not 7 septic systems
into this area that has — it looks like— maybe I can see one from the existing cottage.
But can anyone speak to any sort of assurances that we've gotten from like the DEC or
anyone else that is sort of overseeing the impact that the septic from these 7 systems
will have on Deep Hole Creek?
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Chairman Wilcenski: Yes, I know they are using the innovative alternative waste
systems that we are requiring them to use, but Mark, Maybe you can go more in depth
with the DEC? I'm a little behind on that now.
Mark Terry: Sure, Mark Terry here. So there are duel jurisdictions, you have the
NYSDEC and you also have the Board of Trustees of the Town of Southold. And the
Board of Trustees does have setbacks to top of bluff sanitary systems: 100 feet for the
septic tank and 50 feet for the leaching pools, I believe. So the other factor in there is
they will be required to put IA on-site wastewater treatments systems that will treat the
nitrogen to much better levels than conventional systems. The Planning Board also
imposes best management practices on herbicides and fertilizer applications that
minimize the introduction of nitrogen and pollutants to Deep Hole Creek in this case.
Aaron Bokros: Okay, so further to that, the use of best practices in fertilizers and
herbicides and pesticides, I guess that sort of has to do with Lot 7 as an open space. Do
you know if there is any intention of using that for any sort of farming whatsoever?
That's sort of what it looks like right here and even though the farm stand has been
struck from that, that doesn't necessarily mean that that's not going to be used for farm
land. Is that why that recommendation is in place for best practices and is there any
plan at this point—for using that for farm land or any sort of cultivation or agriculture,
husbandry— anything like that?
Chairman Wilcenski: Mark, would you mind taking that?
Mark Terry: Yes, the applicant has indicated he will try to farm that parcel, in the past.
They—for the purpose of locating a farm stand —wanted to support the operation of a
farm, so the vision of open space does allow farming and farming practices, animal
husbandry and all kinds of different type of agriculture within open space. The BMP's I
was speaking about do not apply to agricultural open space, usually it's applied to the
residential lots, in this case it'd be Lot 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, the Planning Board may apply
them to Lot 7 but that's up to discussion — meaning the buildable area in Lot 7 which is
this square.
Aaron Bokros: Okay so there's nothing in place that will assure that Lot 7 won't be —
like you said — it's open space, does that mean it can be used for agriculture, and is that
preserved in perpetuity or are we looking at something where Lot 7 can also be
subdivided as were looking at 1-6?
Chairman Wilcenski: The open space part of Lot 7 cannot be subdivided in the future;
it's going to be left as part of the subdivision. That is the open space that was created in
lieu of any more lots. As far as the residential lot on lot 7, I'm speaking for myself, I
would think that would be included as the BMP's that would go along with the rest of the
residential lots. (Pause) Any other questions?
Heather Lanza: He muted himself, so I'll go to the next person?
Chairman Wilcenski: Sure.
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Heather Lanza: This one is a phone number, I'll ask this person to unmute themselves.
John Koehler: Hi, it's John Koehler, I've been trying to get through. I just wanted to let
everyone know I'm here if anyone has any questions for me.
Chairman Wilcenski: Heather, can you leave him unmuted?
Heather Lanza: He'll have to raise his hand or you'll have to call on him because I need
to let the next attendee speak.
Chairman Wilcenski: Okay, is anyone else up? I don't see anyone.
Heather Lanza: Dellaquilla is back, but I see Nancy here and she has not spoken yet,
I'll bring her in.
Chairman Wilcenski: Nancy, can you hear us?
Nancy Leffler: Yes, I can.
Chairman Wilcenski: Nancy, can you just state your full name and address for the
record?
Nancy Leffler:, Nancy Leffler on Lupton's Point. Many years ago, I remember going to a
meeting about the same property, and the big concern then was the water and how
many docks were going to go in and what it would do to our ecosystem down there and
I'm wondering if any or all of that has changed. It seems —from what I'm hearing —that
there is only one dock going in, or are there several docks going in?
Chairman Wilcenski: Mark is our LWRP Coordinator; I'll let him answer that question.
Mark Terry: Okay, so the way it's being planned now is that this 10 foot access and the
post-stair will end at.the water. We have proposed to the applicant that this will be a
hand-launch area for kayaks. This area here may be suitable for a potential dock but
that is the Board of Trustees jurisdiction, which is'why the Planning Board made them
take off a dock that was shown on these plans in the past.
Nancy Leffler: So does that mean there are no docks?
Mark Terry: I don't have a definitive answer for you because it does go to another
Board, the Board of Trustees, it is in their jurisdiction. I suspect there will be at least one
dock on this property.
Nancy Leffler: Okay, can. Mr. Koehler expand on that- if he would know?
Chairman Wilcenski: Mr. Koehler, would you care to speak on this?
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John Koehler: Yes, I would. I am not going to say how many docks because my
intention with this property is to develop the pieces with the lots the way they are, build
the road and I'm going to sell off the property and then each owner will then apply for
whatever they want to do with each piece.
Chairman Wilcenski: Okay, does that answer your question?
Nancy Leffler: No, I'm not really satisfied with that and being that this is the last
meeting, I would like to know how to find out, although- according to Mr. Koehler— it
seems like it's up to the owners so it seems like it might be something we will have to
maybe live with down the road. But that was a big issue, I know, when this was last
planned out several years ago. So I guess I'm wondering why people that were present
at that meeting are not so concerned now.
Chairman Wilcenski: Again, as Mark Terry restated, it really is up to the Trustees at
this point, we've done everything we can to protect the waterways and it is out of our
jurisdiction at this point, it will be up to the Trustees, so if you have any concerns going
forward, I would recommend contacting the Trustees.
Nancy Leffler: Through Southold Town?
Chairman Wilcenski: Yes, their offices are at the Town Hall Annex.
James H. Rich III: Don? I think it's worth pointing out that any application to the
Trustees for docks will go through their process and there will be a public hearing on
that.
Chairman Wilcenski: Yes, thank you Jim. Heather, you can make a note of Jim's
comment. Okay, who's next?
Heather Lanza: On the record. And we have next is Nancy McDonald.
Nancy McDonald: Hi there, this is Nancy McDonald. Thanks so much, I have a
question about Lot 7 that could be a structure along Maratooka Lane, so it sounds like —
from what's been discussed that it might have been just something to support the
agricultural aspects that may take place so, would this look like an industrial shed?
Chairman Wilcenski: No, that is a residential lot and they would be restricted to what
anyone would be restricted by for a residential lot.
Nancy McDonald: Okay, thanks so much!
Chairman Wilcenski: Thank you.
Heather Lanza: Next we have Brooks McQueinn.
Chairman Wilcenski: Brooks, are you with us?
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Brooks McQueinn: Yes, I am. I'm sorry I have been going on and off with his thing. I
live on Lupton's Point, my name is Brooks McQueinn. I see that structure 7 is very close
to Lupton's Point Road and that concerns me. I also as a, I have an apartment that I
rent in New York, although this is where I reside. I have gotten notes on my cars
regarding how they don't want me to change what's going on in the North Fork and what
I see here is change happening in the North Fork. So it looks a little suburban to me. I
have no questions; I'm just saying this is what is going on with me Ann knows about
what I got on my car. That's all and I think that Mary lives in this area, is that right?
Chairman Wilcenski: Yes, I believe Mary lives down at the end of the road. I would just
like to point out that the Planning Department, along with the Koehler family, have been
working on this for several years. We've had several iterations of lot locations and, by
rights able to create 7 lots. We originally had lot 7 along Lupton's Point Road, closer to
the other residents, thinking that we wanted to try to keep all the homes close to the
existing homes, but due to the dissatisfaction to the homeowners on Lupton's Point, we
moved it down off of Maratooka. Okay, next up Heather?
Heather Lanza: Next we have someone named Jake.
Chairman Wilcenski: Jake, can you please unmute yourself?
Warren Jackson : I'm unmuted now, can you hear me? Yes, my name is Warren
Jackson; I live at 300 Deep Hole Drive in Mattituck. I'm directly across the creek from
the properties in question and I've been following your project for a long time. I also sent
a letter to the Planning Board years ago regarding the ecology on the site and the
wildlife that's always over there and that was to address the issues with the docks that
were proposed. I'm glad to see they've done a lot of refinement and a lot of work on
this; both my wife and I have been following this. I want to just say to the Planning
Board, they've done a great job in guiding this final project. The way it looks now, to me,
it's acceptable, I know it's inevitable and I know that the people- I'm just hoping that
whoever purchases and builds and has the waterfront lots are stewards of the creek
because there's a lot of development that's been going on the creek and I have to
honestly tell you, people are not stewards on the creek anymore. So I think that that is a
big issue with the people on Deep Hole Creek and especially at this end because it's
such a pristine area at the end of the creek. Which I'm sure you're all aware of. But
other than that, I've pretty much said my piece in the past and you've address all those
concerns. I just want to say thank you.
Chairman Wilcenski: Thank you, Mr. Jackson, and I also would be remiss if I did not
bring in the point of the Koehler family really working with us to come up with the final
plan, it's been going on — like you already mentioned —for several years and the
Koehler's have been very responsive to what all the Planning Board and Staff's
recommendations.
Warren Jackson : I think you very much, I'm going to sign off.
Chairman,Wilcenski: Thank you, okay, who's next, Heather?
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Heather Lanza: Okay, so everyone I have left has already spoken, so I'll just go in
order. I have Ms. Dellaquilla.
Frank Dellaquilla: Hi this is Frank Dellaquilla. I have a question regarding Lot 7: so Mr.
Koehler said that they were going to possibly farm that land or some type of agricultural,
so is that based on the person who buys Lot 7 and builds a home there? Are they
responsible for that property? Oris Mr. Koehler going to maintain ownership of that
property and do some type of agricultural work with it? And are we looking at deer
fencing in the future of that entire piece of property of Lot 7?
Chairman Wilcenski: I would think as far as the deer fence goes, I think it would be up
to the person who was farming that open space. Mark, maybe you could answer the
question? This has been going on for so long, is the residential portion of Lot 7, it does
include the.open space? To who purchases Lot 7?
Mark Terry: Yes, it's attached the open space. So it would be under the ownership of
Lot 7.
Chairman Wilcenski: Mr. Dellaquilla, our intentions when we put the lot there was
hoping that it would be somewhat of a homestead to the farm.
Frank Dellaquilla: Okay.
Denise Dellaquilla: So Lot 7, 1 just want to make sure I'm clear on this, Lot 7
encompasses all the open space, so that particular area can be used for farming, is that
including any agricultural including hemp farming?
Chairman Wilcenski: I would say yes, it's open to agricultural use as all open space is,
especially in Southold Town.
Denise Dellaquilla: Okay and then I have a question about deer fencing. Which, I find
to be absolutely awful, I cannot even believe that— I don't know who okayed deer
fencing everywhere — but I find it to be incredibly painful on the eyes and I don't believe
it shares the open vistas of the North Fork, I'm just putting that out there. So
theoretically, this whole entire beautiful spot right here can have deer fencing on the
whole entire thing, I just want to be clear and understand that.
Chairman Wilcenski: The open_space of Lot 7 could have der fencing and there are
rights to farm as their policies in place and that's part of it, to protect their crops as a
farmer.
Denise Dellaquilla: I understand. Is this property still for sale?
Chairman Wilcenski: I can't answer that question.
Denise Dellaquilla: And I saw that there was a small, private kayak launch; is that
staying private for that neighborhood? Or is that going to be a public launch?
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Chairman Wilcenski: No, the Planning Board worked with the Koehler's, they have one
access to the creek for a dock and then the other lots have access to the Deep Hole
Creek for kayak use only. It would just be for the residents of that street.
Denise Dellaquilla: Okay, I have a question again; did the Town consider purchasing
this property?
Chairman Wilcenski: I believe it was brought through the Town and it didn't move, so
this was what we worked with the owners to come up with, with the next best option
and, again, I concur with Mr. Jackson —who spoke earlier- we worked on this for
several years and we believe this is a substantially reduced density for the size of the
property and we feel that it is a very workable project. I can't say enough how the
Koehler family has worked with us.
Denise Dellaquilla: Can:you let me why the Town decided not to buy it?
Chairman Wilcenski: That's something you'd have to ask the Town Board about.
Frank Dellaquilla: So this second, I don't recall the first plan what was put into place, I
don't know who denied it, so this is the second one, can you give me a quick
explanation of what changed as far as the second plan that was put into place?
Chairman Wilcenski: Mark, maybe you could help me on this one? But I believe —
there's the first plan right there this was the first plan and we had a lot of pushback
from the homeowners on Lupton's point so, since we already had lots created up on the
east end of the property closer to — obviously across the street and the farther you go
east on New Suffolk Avenue, it's all residential...
Frank Dellaquilla: Right, we live right next to Eric Kyles Nursery to the east of it, you
know, those lots 1 and 2 were right outside our driveway so that's why we're concerned
about what's going on over there.
Chairman Wilcenski: Okay and I hope you can understand why we moved them
there; again, we try to keep open space open as much as we can and those abut the
residential area going to the east.
Frank Dellaquilla: Gotcha, okay, very good.
Mark Terry: Mr. Chairman, this was the dock schematic that was proposed but the
Planning Board worked with the applicant to come to an agreement now where we are.
Chairman Wilcenski: Alright, thank you Mark.
Frank Dellaquilla: Was that 4 separate docks originally? That was pushed down to
one?
Mark Terry: That would be three.
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Frank Dellaquilla: Okay, thank you.
Chairman Wilcenski: Thank you.
Heather Lanza: I see a new person, Rita Rooney.
Rita Rooney: Hi, Rita Rooney, Greenport New York. I just wanted to address Ms.
Dellaquilla's question about the property being for sale, I'm the listing agent for the
property as a whole, all 15 acres. So if you have interest in that, of course, please feel
free to reach out to me. I'm Rita Rooney with Douglass Feilman at the Greenport office.
I've had several signs installed there, but they keep getting knocked down, so you
probably wouldn't know that if you didn't see the sign.
Chairman Wilcenski: Thank you.
Rita Rooney: You're welcome.
Heather Lanza: We have Aaron Bokros for a second time.
Aaron Bokros: Yes, hi again, this is Aaron Bokros, resident of New Suffolk Avenue in
Mattituck. Some of my concerns and my secondary questions have been answered. It's
good to see that the property is still for sale and I guess this questions if for Mr. Koehler
directly, it sounds like you guys have explored a lot of different options and you've
worked with the Town Board, was entire preservation of the property with sale of the
development right and working with either neighbors or Land Preservation
organizations, was that explored as well as an option for this property? I think a lot of
people have concerns about— and it sounds like you're working extremely hard to
address concerns which I really have respect for, but a lot of people have concerns
about the ruination of that vista and of the placement of it in close proximity to the creek
and I'm wondering if entire preservation of the property was explored as a viable option
for it and if you'd still be open to entertaining ideas at this point concerning that? Again,
whether or not it was a contortion of local residents or with a land preservation
organization, any of those routes, have they been explored and are you still willing to
explore them, considering that the property is still for sale?
Chairman Wilcenski: Mr. Koehler, if you would like to answer the question, you are
welcome to. If you don't, you are not obligated to.
John Koehler: Hi, John Koehler here, I have not explored that avenue, but if I was
offered the dollars to take care of the costs of the property, I would consider it, but
don't think that the development rights that could be sold could afford that.
Aaron Bokros: Thank you Mr. Koehler for answering that question, I do appreciate it.
Would those, the dollars, as you say, I'm aware of the listing price of the property. Is
that the price — and I know selling development rights would not come near to that cost,
so I understand not being able to cover the cost of the value, using the sale of
development rights — but is that cost, is that what you're looking at?
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John Koehler: Yes.
Aaron Bokros: Or some sort of combination of sale of development rights and straight
up financing for that. Is that what you're looking for?
Heather Lanza: Might I just remind people to address the Board...
Chairman Wilcenski: Yes, I would just like to interject here, I think if Mr. Bokros, if
you'd like to contact Mr. Koehler on your own and maybe have that discussion, we
shouldn't be discussing sales and such in this Public Hearing.
Aaron Bokros: I'm not trying to say that I would be willing to do that, I'm trying to.
ascertain whether or not that avenue was explored by the Town because obviously you
said it was at one point but we haven't gotten a real answer as to why it wasn't explored
as a viable option, so I'm trying to ascertain Mr. Koehler's availability or his interest in
being able to do that. That's all that I was trying to ascertain.
Chairman Wilcenski: Okay, I think that question would either be a question for the
county or the Town of Southold because they would be the ones responsible for
purchasing the development rights.
Aaron Bokros: Okay, thank you, that answered my questions.
Chairman Wilcenski: Thanks.
John Koehler: Am I still on? Yes? Make me an offer I can't refuse.
Heather Lanza: Mike Kimack, you had your hand raised?
Mike Kimack: Yes, I just wanted to fill in just a few things for the people who are out
there with some concerns. On any dock that's being put in, Don is absolutely right, it
does come in under the jurisdiction of the Trustees, but it also comes under the
jurisdiction of the Department of Environmental Conservation. Even though they don't
have public hearings, they have their own standard criteria by which the judge the
placement of that. So those two jurisdictions would be looking at any proposed dockage
that would be going in. As far as the deer fence is concerned, if there is a deer fence
proposed, that would fall under the auspices of the Zoning Board that would be required
to review and that would require a public hearing. Okay? That's it.
Chairman Wilcenski: Thank you, Mike.
Heather Lanza: I see one more raised hand, the Dellaquillas.
Denise Dellacluilla: I just would like to say thank you very much, everything was very
informative. John Koehler and Ann Smith and Aaron Bokros: excellent, excellent
questions and thank you very much for your time.
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Chairman Wilcenski: Thank you and we're glad to hear we've answered your
questions. Thank you. Heather is there anyone else up?
Heather Lanza: No.
Chairman Wilcenski: We'll give one final call, is there anyone else who has questions
or would like to make any comments to the Board? (Pause) Okay, seeing none, can I
have a motion to close the hearing?
Heather Lanza: There was an irregularity in the posting where two people did not get
notified of the hearing and I did not see them in attendance this evening. I would like to
recommend that you leave the hearing open so that may be rectified.
Chairman Wilcenski: Thank you, Heather. So, since the posting was incomplete, how
does the Board feel about leaving the hearing open until February 8tn�
James H. Rich III: We can leave it open for written comment?
Heather Lanza: Well usually those people don't have the opportunity to speak, so it is
up to you, but in the past, we have left it open until the next public meeting.
James H. Rich III: So then we will reconvene at the next public meeting?
Chairman Wilcenski: Yes.
Heather Lanza: Yes.
Mike Kimack: Heather, can you tell me which two? I did receive some green cards
today.
Heather Lanza: Okay, did you get open from Mattituck Airport or Hirsch/Murray?
Mike Kimack: I did not.
Heather Lanza: Okay.
Mike Kimack: I did try to get those out as soon as possible to get all those green cards
back, I think out of the total numbers that were sent out, which was 16 or 17, 1 think I got
13 or 14 back that were submitted to you up until the time that we were required to
resubmit to you on Friday.
Chairman Wilcenski: Okay Mike, thank you. Can I get a motion to hold the hearing
open until February 8"'?
James H. Rich III: I make a motion.
Pierce Rafferty: Second.
Southold Town Planning Board Public Meeting —January 11, 2021 — Page 33
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Jim, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Chairman Wilcenski: Thank you and the last item we have is we need a motion to
adjourn the meeting.
James H. Rich III: I make a motion.
Martin Sidor: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Jim, seconded by Martin. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
There being no further business to come before the Board, the meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
f� Jessica Michaelis
Transcribing Secretary
Donald J. Wilcenski, Chairman
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1 TOWN- OF SOUTHOLD PLANNING BOARD
COUNTY OF SUFFOLK: STATE OF NEW YORK
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PLANNING BOARD PUBLIC `HEARINGS
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16' " Board Members Present:
17 DONALD WILCENSKI, Chairman
1-8 JAMES H. RICH, .III, _Board Member
19 PIERCE RAFFERTY.- Board Member
20 MARY EISENSTEIN, Board Member
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4 Koehler Family Limited Partnership 3/2
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1 KOEHLER FAMILY LIMITED PARTNERSHIP
2 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Koehler Family
3 Limited Pa tnership. This: proposal is a
4 Clustered Standard Subdivision of a 14.94
5 acre parcel into seven lots where Lot 1
equals 0.80 acres; Lot 2 equals 0.90 acres
7 inclusive of 0.08 acres of unbuildable
8 lands; Lot 3 equals 1,11 acres inclusive of
9 0.14 acres of unbui3dable Lands and 0.07
10 acres of easement area; Lot 4 equals 0.70
11 acres; Lot 5 equals 0.66 acres; Lot ,6
12 equals 0.70 acres; Lot 7 equals 9.51 acres
13 inclusive of 8.72 acre area of Open Space
14 and a .05 right-of-way easement; located
15 _all in the -R80 -Zoning .District- The
16 property is located' at 4180 New Suffolk
17 Avenue on the corner of Marratooka and New
18 .Suffolk. in Mattituck. SCTM##1000-115 10-1.
19. At this point, 1--would like to open
20 up the floor to anyone in the audience on
21 the Zoom, please direct your questions or-
22 concerns to the Board. And I am not sure
23 if anyone is here from the Koehler Family .
24 representing them, but if you are, we would
25 like to give'you the first opportunity- to
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1 speak with regard to this application.
-' 2 MR. KIMACK: This- .is Mike..Kimack.
3 Can you hear -me?,
4 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI:: Yes, Mike..
5 You're representing the Koehler Family?
6 MR. KIMACK-: Yes. Late in the
7 game though. I came in to assist
8 finalizing the plan.and to move forward
9 with the Health Department, -which- Is
10 obviously not your concern. And I did have
11 a chance to look over the
12' September 17, 2020 letter that was
13 submitted to Mr. Koehler in terms of points
14 that the Planning Board made basically.
15 Primarillr_.Mark :basically. made., _Mask Terry_.
16 , And there are some minor revisions to the
17 plans before you. I had a chance to submit
1.8 one .of those copies to .Mark today.. His
19- recommendations were little things. Dike
20 to take the farm stand off, name the road.
21 Identify the easement going. to the house.,
22 etcetera, -like that. We removed language
23 identifying -the IA system on Lot #3. I `
24. submitted it for Mark to take a look at and
25, to''go. over it` and make sure it's complete,.
January 11, 2021 Public Hearings 5
1 as far as Planning would be concerned..
2 once, it's acceptable to you, I would have
3 to -take that plan and submit it to the
4 Health Department, who will then hopefully
5 when we get it back,- and then return those
6 'stamped back to the Planning for your sound
7 approval. So it's one :plan for both
8 entities, but it has to have all of the
9 same acceptable information on it.
10 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Thank you,
11 Mike. To summarize what Mike said, I think
12 the big item would be the removal of the
13 farm stand that was on the plan.
14 MR. KIMACK: That was done today.
15 I know .probably_.Mark .has,not .looked at- it..
16' You know, submitting it the day of' the
17 hearing is not a good time. I was finally
.18 able .to get it .back from the surveyor:, and
19, he'-s had a chance to look at it.
20 Hopefully, it will be all the things that
21 he recommended and added or subtracted from
22 the. plan.
23 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Okay. Thank
24 you. Is there anyone else in the audience
25 who, would- like to addzess� the' Board on the
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1 Koehler Family Limited Partnership?
` 2 MS. LANZA: I would just add that
3 people -who do wish to speak, you: can click
4 the "Raise Hand" feature in Zoom to let us
5 know, and we will chose you in the which
6 the order your hand was raised. I see
7 someone. here, Mr. Dellagilla. I will click
s allow to talk-
9 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Welcome
10 NQS. DELLAQU.ILA: Good evening,
11 everyone. How are you?
12 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: very good.
. 13 Thank you.
14 MS. DELLAQUILA.- Quick question..
15 -.How .big are the-homes going to be?
16 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: I 'am unaware
17 of the actual square footage of the homes
is at this point. I don't know if staff has
19 any other information on the sizes?
20 MR. TERRY: Well, it's 20% of the
21 lot area. It's also established by
22 building envelope, but you know, you have
23 first and second story homes. We do not
24 have plot plans within this office. So_we
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25 do not have the visual on how._iargp the"
January 11, 2021 Public Hearings - 7
1 homes will be.
2 MS. DELLAQNILA:- How do you
3 MS. LANZA: Excuse me. I am
4 sorry. Just for the record, each time you
5 speak, you need to identify yourself. Your
6 name and your-address. You don't- have to
7 say your address every time, but the first
8 time, your name and address_ Thank you.
9 MS. DELLAQUILA: Oh, sure. My
10 name is Denise .Dellaquila. And you want me
11 to say my whole address or New Suffolk --
12 MS. LANZA: Yes, please.
13 MS. DELLAQUILA: 4725 New Suffolk
14 Avenue, Mattituck. How do you decide what
15 size the _homes would be? I mean., .i_£ there
16 is -- curious -- so it's 20% of the lot
17 size? What does that actually mean in
18 layman terms for people who are interested
19 to understand that?
20 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Mark, do you
21 want to answer that?
22 MR. TERRY: Yes. Mark Terry.
23 It's math. It's the total lot area,
24 multiplied by 20% and then you have your
25 front yard setback and your rear yard
January 11, 2021 Public Hearings 8
1 setbacks and side yard that control a
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2 building envelope. The principal structure
3 is located within the building envelope.
4 MS. UELLAQUII,A: Okay. And what
5 about the street lights for this? Would
6 this be a regular neighborhood or this
7 going to be .a private community?
8 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: It's going to
9 be ,a public road, and I believe we
10 originally thought .about having a street
11 light at the end, but I think that was
12 removed, if I am correct.
13 MR. KIMACK: That is correct. Can
14 you hear me?
15 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI;: Yes, Mike.
16 You just have to say your name, Mike.
17 MR. KIMACK: Mike Kimack. I
18 believe that is correct. When I went
19 through the September 17th, that was one of
20 the recommendations. That it was agreed to
21 that the street light would be removed.
22 And I think that the street light was at
23 the beginning of the road and that had been
24 taken away. No longer as part of the
i
25 plan.
. January 11, 2021 Public Hearings 9
1 MS.T DELLAQUILA: And I :guess all
2 the- utilities. --
3 'MS. LANZA. Excuse me, we can't
4 have -all the back and forth. So you will
5 have to say your name each time.
6 MS. DELLAQUILA: Oh, I am sorry.
7 Denise Dellaquila. .Are the utilities .going
8 to he underground?
9 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Yes. That's
10 correct.. All the utilities will be
11 underground.
12 MS. DELLAQUILA: Denise -Dellaquila
13 again. Is the Koehler family planning on
14 living here or are they trying to get this
15 done In order for them to sell the property
16 with all the permits in place?
17 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: That is
18 something that we don't know and not
19 something that privy to find out right
20 now. It is their property. It's up to the
21 Koehler family.
. 22 MS. DELLAQUILA Denise
23 Dellaquila. Are any of the homes going to
24 have waterfront access?
25 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Yes. I can't
i
January 11, 2021 Public Hearings 10
�.-- 1 remember which ones. Mark, do you have the
2 plan? Can you just --
3 MR. TERRY: Yes. Mark Terry. So
4 : there is two points of waterfront access on
5 these plans. So there is access proposed
6 between Lot's #2 and #3. As you can see.
7 right here_, it, leads to a-staircase -pad .
8 area, in anticipation of ,a dock. The
9 secondary access is along this property
10 Line_. -You will' see the proposed stairs.
11 This is access. That would provide access
12 to the non-waterfront parcels.
13 MS. DELLAQUILA: Denise
14 Deilaquila. What are the setbacks from the
15 property line closet to the water?
16 CHAIRMAN WILCEMSKI: Mark, do you
17 have a plan that shows --
18 MR. TERRY: What? The setback?
19 So there is a non-disturbance buffer. The
20 non-disturbance buffer is the limitation of
21 building, okay.
2:2 MS, DELLAQUILA: Okay;.
23 MR. TERRY: Except for the sitting
24 cottage, which is located here. We
25 couldn't create a non-disturbance buffer
January 11, 2021 Public Hearings 11
1 obviously because it's already disturbed.
2 So it was jogged to accommiodate-this-
3 existing cottage.
4 MS. DELLAQUILA: Denise
5 Dellaquila. Is that cottage going to stay
6 or is it going to stay that size?
7 MR. TERRY; Mark Terry_ The
8 cottage that, was a Planning Board question
9 at the last meeting. And the owner has
10 indicated that the cottage would remain.
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11 MS. DELLAQUILA: And will the
12 cottage -will they try and make that
13 cottage larger or will it stay the same
14 size?
15 MR. TERRY: That is unknown.
16 MS. DELLAQUILA: Okay. Denise
17 Dellaquila. Is the current road that is
18 there now that goes back towards the
19 cottage and the back home, is that road
20 staying as well?
21 MR. TERRY: The current road is a
22 'dirt driveway that runs from New Suffolk
23 Avenue all the way to a parcel that is
24 improved right here. No. That will be
25 removed. You see here --
January 11, 2021 Public Hearings 12
1 MS. DELLAQUILA: Yes.
2 MR. TERRY: There will be a
3 driveway easement off the cul-de-sac that
4 will serve that parcel.
5 MS. DELLAQUILA: Okay. It's hard
6 to read unless you are in the know. So
7 thank you.
8 MR. TERRY: i agree. Absolutely.
9 MS.. DELLAQUILA: Thank you for
10 explaining all of that to us. I appreciate
11 it.
12 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Thank you.
13 Do you have any other questions?
14 MS. DELLAQUILA: I don't have any
15 other questions, other than if you would
16 like to give us any insight as to what we
17 might find to be important or pertinent
.18 information that you can share with us,
19 that we maybe wouldn't know to ask
20 questions. So if there is anything that
21 you would like to share with us, that would
22 be great also? And I believe my husband
23 now also has a question.
24 MR. DELLAQUILA: My name is Frank
t
25. Dellaquila. The open space that is going
January 11, 2021 Public Hearings 13
1 to be available there on that corner,
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-- 2 Marratooka and New Suffolk, is that going
3 to be groomed property? Is that going to
4 be grass? Is it going to be left natural?
5 What is their plan or no plan at this
6 point?
7 CHAIRMAN WILCENSRI: Don
8 Wilcenski. Right now it's up to the owner.
9 They could basically use it as agricultural
10 land and grow, you know, certain products
11A or they can leave it open as it is now.
12 MR. DELLAQUILA: Thank you.
13 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Thank you.
14 Dellaquila's, do you have any other
15 questions or otherwise we can move on?
16 MS. LANZA: I have another person,
17 Anne Smith.
18 MS. SMITH: Hi everyone. Anne
19 Smith. I live on (in audible) Road in
20 Mattituck. I am actually asking questions
21 tonight as President of the Mattituck
22 Laurel Civics Association. Although, I
23 walk by that property almost everyday.
24 It's a beautiful road. My questions for
r-1 25 the Civic are always in the context of the
January 11, 2021 Public Hearings 14
1 Comprehensive Plan. So we kind of look at
2 projects before the Planning Board in that
3 context- 'so we can be sure that we're
4 learning more about the plan when we ask
5 questions. And also to see how the Town is
6 implementing the plan when having these
7 discussions and making these approvals. So
8 my questions are at context and.actually
9 Denise -and -Frank asked a lot of my
10 questions. So thank you. So the first one
11, has to do with Chapter 5 of the. plan and
12 preserving quality of life in residential
- - 1 13 neighborhoods. Things about traffic,
14 safety, noise, light and the character. In
15 partcular, house size. So I want'to
16 question further on the lots. Are the
17 house size restrictions based on the actual
18 size of the lot or based on the number of
19 homes as if the whole property were divided
20 evenly?
21 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Don Wilcenski
22 here. They ,are based on the lot size that
23 were approved by the Planning Board or
24 pending to be approved. And it's all based
25 on, as Mark Terry said, the lot.
January 11, 2021 Public Hearings 15
1 MS. SMITH: So it's the actual lot
2 there. And you mentioned a farm stand but
3 that is now removed. What about Lot #7, it
4 shows a dotted line on Marratooka, is that
5 a property for a home or a building? What
6 is that Lot #7?
7 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Lot #7 is a
8 building lot.
9 MS. SMITH: So that would be a
10 home. I didn't know if it was a structure
11, or something.
12 - CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: No. That
13 would be under the same guise of the other
14 lots. It would be a buildable lot, 20% of
15 lot coverage for a home. The open space
16 that was talked about earlier, a possible
17 barn, but right now there is no indication
18 that the owner is planning on constructing
19 any buildings on that property.
20 MS. SMITH: And what you would be
21 approving, is that a final determination?
22 In other words, if this is approved and
23 them the owner sells this entire property,
24 can that new owner come back and ask for
25 something different?
January 11, 2021 Public Hearings 16
1 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: No. Not in
2 anything major.. There could be small
3 things. I don't even know if they could
4 change the name of the road that is on
5 there. Pretty much the final site plan for
6 the project.
7 MS. SMITH: Okay. Anne Smith
8 again. I do, think that was -- my other -
. ,
9 questions had to do with this farm stand.
10 I was trying to understand. But if it was
11_ part of the. garden or the homeowners. Do
12 you know if the lots will be sold and
V 13 individual owners decide what to be put
14 there? Do you know?
15 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Don
16 Wilcenski. I am sorry, are you speaking of
17 the farm stand or the homes?
18 MS. SMITH: No. I am back to the
19 houses now.
20 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Just to be
21 clear, the farm stand is off the table.
22 But the lots again,. it's going to be up to
23 the owners as far as building the homes.
24 We don't know.if there is any intention of
25 building homes or if they sold developments
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1 for those homes.
2 MS. SMITH: Anne Smith again. Any
3 my final question. Is this the last
4 hearing on this property or is there more
5 work to be done before you issue the.
6 permits?
7 CHAIRMAN VILCENSRI: There is more
8 work for us to do but this is scheduled to
9 . be the last Public Hearing.
10 MS. SMITH: And the question is
1:1 kind of about this project, but in general,
12 does the Planning. Board -- when projects
13 like this in front of you, is the context
k
14 - of the goals of the Comprehensive Plan, is
15 that sort of a measure that you use? When
16 we're looking at things, I kind of want to
17 know how to go back and forth and what the
18 owners are asking for (in audible) approach
19 evaluating proposals?
20 CHAIRMAN WILCENSRI: Yes. Don
21 Wilcenski here. We had several variations
22 of the lots where it was originally
ti 23 proposed. There was several changes over
24 the process of this, which probably went
25 over 2 or 3 years. Now keeping open space
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1 and vistas open coming down New Suffolk
2 Avenue going east, we felt that open space
3 was a very important aspect of this. Lot
4 #7 was added because of their yield on the
5 property. And the other lots were put over
6 on the east end of the property because
7 there was already residential lots or
8 residential homes along that area.
9 MS. SMITH: Anne Smith again.
10 Just one final question. I hope when
11 everything is determined, when someone who
12 does use a bike and walk on that road, .it
13 is becoming a more dangerous road as time
14 goes by. So I just hope all decisions do
15 keep the safety of pedestrians and people
16 on their bikes in mind. Thank you.
17 CHAIRMAN WILCENSRI: Thank you.
18 Heather, do you want to bring in the next
19 attendee?
20 MS. LANZA: Yes. Aaron Bokros.
-21 MR. BORROS: This is Aaron Bokros.
22 Can you hear me?
23 CHAIRMAN WILCENSRI: Yes, Aaron,
24 we can hear you.
25 MR. BOKROS: Sorry. I misspelled
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1 my name. Hi. I am resident of Mattituck.
2 My concern is, if this is the last meeting
3 on this, considering its. proximity to the
4 wetlands, can anybody speak to if there has
5 been any DEC involvement at this point?
6 Considering the addition, it looks like --
7 at least six, if not seven, septic systems
8 into this area that has maybe -- I can-see
9 from one from the existing cottage. Can
10 anyone speak to any kind of assurances that
11 we have gotten from like the DEC or anybody
12 else who is overseeing the impact that the
13 impacts of the seven septic systems will
14 have on these lots?
15 CHAIRMAN WILCENSRI: Yes. 'Don
16 Wilcenski here. I know they are using
17 innovative weigh systems that we are
18 requiring them to use. But Mark, maybe you
19 would want to go more in depth about the
20 DEC? ` I am a little behind on that.
21 MR. TERRY: Mark Terry. So there
22 is dual jurisdictions. You have the New
23 York State Department of Environmental
24 Conservation, the DEC and you also have the
-'� 25 Board of- Trustees Town of Southold. And
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1 the Town of Southold Board of Trustees does
2 have setbacks to top of bluff for sanitary
3 systems. A 100 feet for the septic tank
4 and 50 feet for the leeching pools, I
5 believe. The other factor in here, and
6 what Don was saying, they will be required
7 to put in IA, on site wastewater treatment
8 systems that will treat with the Nitrogen
9 to much better levels and dimensional
10 systems. The Planning Board also imposes
11 Best Practices on herbicide and fertilizer
12 applications that minimize the
13 introduction, on Depot Creek in this case.
14 MR. BOKROS: So further to that,.
15 you're talking -- sorry. This is Aaron
16 Bokros again, further to that, Best
17 Practices and fertilizers and any sort of
18 herbicides and pesticides, I guess that
19 sort of -- that sort of has to do with
20 Lot #7 as open space. Do you know if they
21 have any intention on using that sort of
22 farming whatsoever? That is what it looks
23 like here even though the farm stand has
24 been struck from that, that doesn't
25 necessarily mean it's not going to be used
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1 for farm land. Is that why that
2 recommendation is in place for Best
3 'Practices and Is there any plan at this
4 point for using that for farm land or
5 agriculture? Anything like that?
6 CHAIRMAN wILCENSKI: Mark, wound
7 you mind taking that?
8 MR. TERRY: Yes. Mark Terry. The
9 applicant has indicated that he will try
10 and farm that parcel in the past. They --
11 for the purpose of locating the farm stand,
12 they wanted to support operation of the
13 farm. Division of open space does allow
14 farming and farming practices and animal
15 husbandry and all kinds of different types
16 of agriculture within open space. BMP's
17 that I was speaking about do not apply to
18 agricultural open space. Usually is
19 applied to the residential lots. In this
20 case, it would be Lot #1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
21 The Planning Board may apply them to Lot
22 #7, but that is up to discussion. Meaning
23 the buildable lot area of Lot #7 which is
24 this square.
25 MR. BOKROS: There is nothing in
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1 place that would ensure that Lot #7 won't
2 be -- like you said, it's open space. Does
3 that-mean it-can -be used for agriculture?
4 Is that preserved in perpetuity or are we
5 looking at something where Lot #7 could
6 also.be--subdivided, as •we're looking -at
7 Lot's 1-6?
8 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Don Wilcenski
9 here. The open space of Lot #7 cannot be
10 subdivided 'in the- future. It's going- to be
11 left as the subdivision. That is the open
12 space that was created in lieu of any more
13 lots. As far as the residential lot on
14 Lot #7 -- I am speaking for myself. I am
15 not speaking for the entire Board. But for
16 myself, I would think that would be
17 included with the BMP's -- that would go
18 along with the rest of the residential
19 lots.
20 MS. LANZA: Mr. Bokros, can you
21 -spell your last name, please?
22 MR. BORROS: Yes. B-O-R-R-O-S.
23 MS. LANZA: Thank you.
24 CHAIRMAN WILCENSRI: Any other
�' 25 questions, Mr. Bokros?
January 11, 2021 Public Hearings, 23
1 MS. LANZA: He muted himself. I
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2 will go to the next person.
-3 - CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Sure.
4 MS. LANZA: This is a phone
5 number. So I will ask this person to
6 - :un-mute themselves and. -- you did it.
7 MR. KOEHLER: Yes. It's John
8 Koehler. I have been trying to get on.
9 MS. LANZA: I -am so sorry-
10 MR. KOEHLER: It's okay—. If
11 anybody had any questions for me, I could
.12 .-answer-
13
_answer.13 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Thank you,
14 John. If you could stand by. Heather, if
15 _ you could leave him un muted.
16 MS. LANZA: Ms. Dellaquila is
17 back.. That is the only person left. No.
18 Sorry. Nancy is there. She has not spoken
IR yet. So I will bring her in.
20 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Nancy, can
21 you hear us?
22 MS. LEFLERYes-, I can.
23 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Welcome. If
24 you could just state your name and address
25 for the record?
January 11, 2021 Public Hearings 24
1 . MS. T F %M: Nancy Lefler (in
a -
2 audible) point.. Many years ago, I remember
3 going ,to -a meeting about the -same property
4 and the big concern there was the water and
5 how many docks `,were going to go in and what
=6 , it would.-do to our-ecosystem down there. I
7 am wondering if any or all of that has
8- changed? It seems. from what I am hearing,
9 . there is .one -dock going in .or .,are. there
10 several docks going in?
1.1 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Mark is our
. 12 LWRP Coordinator. 1.,w ll:.let. Mark answer.
13 that question.
14 MR. TERRY. Okay. So the way that
15 . this is being planned now is that this 10
16 foot access and will the stairwell at the
17 end of the applicant, that this is a hand
18 launch area for kayaks. This area.here may
19 be .suitable for a dock, but that is the
20 Board of Trustees detP*-�++�nation. And that
21 is why the Planning Board made them take
22 off a dock that was shown on these plans in
23 the past. I don't have a definitive answer
24 for you because it goes to another Board,
-25 the Board of Trustees and their°
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1 jurisdiction. But I suspect that there
s
2 will be at least one dock on this property.
,3 ,. .MS. LEFLER: Okay. Could
4 Mr. Koehler expand on that question, if he
5 would know or no?
6 - -MS. .-LANZA: Don, -you would-have to
7 call on him --
8. CHATRMAN. WILCENSKI: Okay.:.. John,.
9 ...would.-you -like, to -.answer:-that-.question .if
10 you can?
11 MS LANZA: I will click allow to
12 ..:.talk.
13 MR. KOEHLER: Yes, I would. John
14 Koehler. And I am not going to say how
15 many docks because my intention with this
16 property- is to develop the pieces with the
17 lots the way that they are. Build off the
18 .,- road. And I am going to sell off the
19 pieces -of-- property and each owner -will then--
20
hen20 apply for whatever they want to do with
21 each piece.
22 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Okay. Does
23 that answer your question, Ms. Lefler?
24 MS. LANZA: I disabled speaking on
r 25 the other"person. Would you like 'to move
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1 onto the next person?
2 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Can you bring
3 Ms. Lefler back in to -make sure -that -she
4 doesn't have any other questions while she
5 is up?
S ...MS. LANZA: -Okay.
7 MS. LMMER: No. I am not really
8 satisfied with that. And being that this
9 is the last -meeting, I would like to -find
10 out. Although according to Mr. Koehler,
11 doesn't -- it seems like its up to the
12
owners. .So that may be_soinething-..that :we
1"3 have to live with down the road. But that
14 was a big issue I know when this was last
.15 planned out several years ago. I am just
16 wondering why people who were present at
17 - that meeting are not concerned now?
18 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Don Wilcenski
19 here. As Mark Terry stated, it really- is
20 up to the Trustees now. We have done
21 everything we can to protect the waterways
22 and it's out of our jurisdiction at this
23 point. It would be totally up to the
24 Trustees. So if you have any concerns
25 going forward, I would recommend contacting
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1 the Trustees.
2 MS. TEFLE : Through Southold
3 Town-?
4 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Yes. They
5 have their office's at the Town Hall Annex..
6 ;MS. LEFLER: Thank you.
7 MEMBER RICH: Hey Don?
8 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Yes?
9 MEMBER RICH: I think it's worth
10 pointing out that any application for the
1.1. Trustees for docks will go through their
12 process.: and there .will:.be a P.,ublic-Hearing
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13 on that.
14 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Yes. Thank
15 . you., Jim. Heather, you can make a note of
16 Jim's comment.
17 MS. LANZA: On the record.
18 CHAIRMAN WILCENSRI: Okay. Who is
19 up next?
20 MS. LANZA: I am going to chose
21 the people who haven't spoken yet. So next
22 is Nancy McDonald.
23 MS. MCDONALD: Hi, there. This is
24 Nancy McDonald. Thanks so much. I had a
25 question about the Lot #7 that could be- a
January 11, 2021 Public Bearings 28'
1 structure long Marratooka Lane. So it
2 sounds like what has been discussed, that
3 it might have been something: to support the
4 agricultural aspects that may take place.
5 So would this- look like an industrial shed?
6 CHAIRMAN .w.LCENSKI: Don--Wilcenski
7 here. No. That is a residential lot. And
8 they would be restricted to whatever
9 .anybody -would. be for .a residential lot-.
10 . MS. MCDONALD: Okay. Thanks so
11 much.
- CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI. . . Thank: you...
13 Heather, you will bring in the next person?
14 MS. LANZA: Yes. Next is Brooks
15--: McKeown_
16 CxAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Brooks are
17 you with us?
18 MS', MCKEOWN: Yes, I am_ -Sorry.
19 F had been ,going on Luptons Point My name .
20 is Brooks McKeown.. I see that -- that
21 structure #7 is very close to Lufton's
22 Point Road, and that concerns me. Also I
23 have an apartment that I rent in New York,,
24 although this is where I reside. I have
25 gotten things on my notes s on my cars how
January 11, 2021 Public Hearings 29 ,
1 they don't want me to change what is going
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2 on in the North Fork. And what I see here
3 - is ,change happening in the North Fork. So
4 it looks a little suburban to me. I have
5 no questions. I am just saying- this is
6 -what is going -on.-with -me. -Anne -knows -what
7 I got on my car. That's all. And I think
8 that Mary lives in this area; is that
9 -right?
10 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Yes. I
1.1 believe Mary lives down at .the end of the
12 .. '.._.road. -I would .just_.like._.to point. ..that .the
1 ,
13 Planning Department along with the Koehler
14 Famly .have been working on this for
15 several years. And we had several
16 iterations of lot locations. And by
17 rights, the Koehler's are giving up open
18 space -- and they are by right's able to
19 have' 7 lots. We' originally had Lot #7
20 along Lufton'-s Point Road. Closer to the
21 other residents. Thinking that we wanted
22 to keep all the homes close to the existing
23 homes. But due to the dissatisfaction of
24 the -homeowners on Lufton's Point, we moved
25 it down on Marratooka. Okay. Next up,
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1 Heather?
2 MS. LANZA: Next we have someone
. 3 named Jake.
4 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Jake, can you
5 please --
6 MR. -JACKSON: -Can -you hear ane now?
7 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Yes, we got
8 you. Name and address, please?
9 MR-...:JACKSON: My. name is .Warren
10 Jackson. I live at 300 Marratooka,
it directly across the street from the
..12 :..properties --,.I._have ._a Viestion., .,and .I ..,have
C ", 13 been following your project 'for a long
e
14 time. I also sent a letter to the Planning. .
15 _ Board years ago regarding,the ecology on
16 the site and the wildlife that is always
17 there. And that was to address the issues
18 with the docks that .were proposed. And I
19 am glad to see that they- have done a'-lot of-
20 refinement and a lot of work on this. My
21 wife and I have been following this. And I
22 want to 'just say to the Planning Board that
231 I think they have done a great job in
24 , guiding this final project. The way it
25 looks now to me, to me it's acceptable. I
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1 know it's inevitable. I know people -- I
' 2 am just hoping that whoever purposes and
3 builds the waterfront lots, are stewards of
4 the creek. Because there is a lot of
5 development that has been going on in the
6 creek and I have to honestly tell you that
7 people are not stewards on the creek
8 anymore. So I thank that is a big issue on
9 Repot Creek: Especially -- because it's
10 such a pristine area on the creek, which I
11 am sure you folks are all aware of. Other
12 than :that, I have sa;.cl my peace ;n the past
- J 13 and you have addressed all those concerns. _
14 I just wanted to say, thank you.
15 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI:' Thank you,
16 Mr. Jackson. And I also would be remised
17 if I did not bring in the point of the
18 Koehler Familg really working with us to
19 come up with this final plan. Like you had
20 mentioned, it has been going on for several
21 years and the Koehler's have been very
22 responsive to all the Planning Board and
23 staff's recommendations.
24 MR. JACKSON: Again, Warren
. 25 Jackson. Thank you very much. And I am.
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1 going to sign off.
2 CHAIRMA14 WILCENSKI: Okay. Who's
3 next, Heather?
4 MS. LANZA: Everyone left has
5 spoken. So I will just go in order. I
6 have Ms. Dellaquila..
7 MR. DELLAQUILA: Hi. This is
8 Frank Dellaquila. I got a. question
9 regarding Lot #7. So Mr. Koehler said: that
10 they were going to possibly farm that land
11 or agricultural. So is that based on the
12 person -on who buys .Lot #7 and builds the
13 home there? Are they responsible for that
14 property or is Mr. Koehler going. to
15 maintain ownership of that ,property :and .do
16 some kind of agricultural work with it?
17 And are we looking at deer fencing in the
18 future of that entire piece of prgperty
19 Lot #7?
20 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: I would think
21 as far as deer fence goes°, it would be
22 entirely open` to' the person who is far_ine
23 that open space. Maybe Mark, you can
24 answer the question because this has been
25 going on for so long. Is the residential
January 11, 2021 Public Hearings 33
1 - Lot #7 does include the open space?
t
2 Mit. TERRY: Yes. It's• attached to-
3. open space. So it would be under the
4 ownership.
5 CHAIRMAN_ WILCENSRIs Mr.
6 Dellaqula, .our intention was when we put
7 the lot there that it would be somewhat of
8 a homestead- to the-- farm..
9 -MS DELLAQUI:LA: Denise
10 Dellaquila. So .Lot. #7, I just want to make
11 sure that I am crystal clear on this.
12 Lot #7 encompasses :all the open space. So
13 that particular area can be used for
14 farming-. Is that including- any
1.5 agricultural,, -including Hein -farming?
16 CHAIRMAN WILCENSki: I would say,
17 yes, it's open to agricultural use. As all
18 open -Space is in Southold Town,
19 MS. DELLAQUILA: Okay. And then
20 -- Denise Dellaquila. I have a question
21 about deer fencing, which I find to be
22 absolutely- awful. I cannot" even believe
23 that I don't know who okayed deer fencing
24, _ everywhere, but I find it to ;be incredibly
25 painful on the eyes: And I don't belie##'
January, 11, 2021 Public Hearings 34
1 it shares the open vistas for the North
2 Fork. I am, just putting that out there.
3 So theoretically, this whole entire
4 beautiful spot right here, can have deer
5 fencing on the. whole entire- thing? I just
6 -want :to be- clear :and understand that.
- 7 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: The open
8 space of Lot #7 could have deer fencing and.
9 there - -rights of the farm have policies
10 in place and that is part of it, to protect
11 their farm.
. 12 . :MS.. , DEELLAQUILA:. I understand.. Is
i
13 this property still for sale?
14 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: I can't
15 _ aIIswer that gge_stion.
16 MS. DELLAQUILA: And I saw that
17 there was a small private kayak launch. Is
18 that staying.private .for that neighborhood
19 or is that going to be a public launch?
20 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: No. The
21 Planning Board came up --- we worked with
22 the Koehler's. They--have one access to the
23 creek for a dock and the other lots--that
24 -- if you -can see the lines on the plan.
25 All the other lots have access to the Depot
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1 Creek for kayak use only. It would just be
2 for the residents of that street.
3 MS. DELLAQUILA: Okay. Denise
4 Dellaquila. I have a question again. Did
5 the Town consider purchasing this property?
6 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: I believe it
7 was brought to the Town and it didn't move.
8 So this is what we worked with the owners
9 to come up with the next best option. And
10 again, I concur with Mr. Jackson who spoke
11 earlier. We have worked on this for
12 several years. And we believe this is a
13 substantially reduced density for the size
14 of the property and we feel it's a very
15 workable project. And I can't say enough
16 how the Koehler Family has worked with us.
17 MS. DELLAQUILA: Denise Dellaquila
18 again_. Can you let me know why the Town
19 decided not to buy it?
20 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: That is
21 something that you will have to talk to the
22 Town Board about.
23 MS. DELLAQUILA: Okay.
24 MR. DELLAQUILA: This is Frank
25 Dellaquila. I don't recall the first plan
January 11, 2021 Public Hearings -36
1 that was put into place. I don't know who
a '}
2 denied it. So this is the second one? Can
3 you give me a quick explanation as to what
4 charged the second plan that was put into
5 place?
6 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Mark, maybe
7 you can help me on this -- there you go.
8 There 'is the first plan. I don't know --
9 MR. DELLAQUILA: I can see it.
10 Great.
11 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: And then we
12 had a lot of push back from the homeowners
- 13 on Luptons Point. So since we already had
1 14 lots created on the east end of the
15 property closer to the -- obviously closer
16 to the street and the farther you go east
17 on New Suffolk Avenue, it's all
18 residential.
19 MR. DELLAQUILA: We live very
20 close to Eric Kyle's Nursery. So we --
21 those Lot's 1 and 2, were right outside our
22 driveway. So that is why we were concerned
23 with what is going on.
24 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Again, we try
25 to keep open space as much as we can. And
t.
January 11, 2021 Public Hearings 37
1 those abut the residential area to the
2 east.
3 MR. DELLAQUILA: Okay. Very good.
4 MR. TERRY: Mark Terry.
5 Mr. Chairman, this was the dock schematic
6 that was proposed that the Board had worked
7 with the applicant to come to agreement on
8 where we are now.
9 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Thank you,
10 Mark.
11 MR. DELLAQUILA: Frank Dellaquila.
12 Is that -- was that originally four
13 separate docks that you pushed down to one?
14 MR. TERRY: No. It would be three.
15 MR. DELLAQUILA: Thank you.
16 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Thank you.
17 MS. LANZA: I see a new person,
18 Rita Rooney.
19 MS. ROONEY: Hi. Rita Rooney of
20 Greenport, New York. I just wanted to
21 address Ms. Dellagilla about the property
22 being for sale. I am the listing agent for
23 the property as a whole. All 15 acres. So
24 if you have interest in that, of course,
25 please feel free to reach out to me. I am
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1 Rita Rooney with Douglas Elliman at the
r 2 Greenport office. I have had several signs
3 installed there but they keep getting
4 knocked down. So you wouldn't know that if
5 you didn't see the sign.
6 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: . Thank you.
7 MS. ROONEY: You're welcome.
8 MS. LANZA: We have Aaron Bokros
9 for a second time.
10 MR. BOKROS: Yes. Hi, this. is
11 Aaron Bokros, resident of New Suffolk
12 Avenue in Mattituck. Some of my concerns
13 in my secondary questions have been
14 answered. It's good to see_ that the
15 property is still for sale. And I guess
16 this question is for Mr. & Mrs. Koehler.
17 It sounds like you guys have explored a lot
18 of different options and you guys.have
19 worked with the Town Board. Was entire
20 preservation of the property sale of
21 development rights and working with either
22 neighbors or land preservation
23 organizations, was that explored as: well as
24 an option for this entire property? I
25 think a lot of people have concerns about
January 11, 2021 Public Hearings 39
1 -- and it sounds like you are working
2 extremely hard to address these concerns,
3 but a lot of people have concerns about the
4 vista and the placement of it, and in close
5 proximity to the creek. And I am wondering
6 if entire preservation was explored and a
7 viable option, and if you would still be
8 open to entertaining ideas at this point
9 concerning that?
10 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Don
11 Wilcenski. Mr. Koehler, if you.would like
12 to answer the question, you are welcome to.
13 If you don't, you are not -- you don't have
14 to answer the question. If you feel the
15 need to answer, that would be helpful.
16 MR. KOEHLER: John Koehler. I
17 have not explored that avenue. But if I
18 was offered the dollars to take care of the
19 costs of the property, I would consider it.
20 But I don't think the development rights to
21 be sold could afford that.
22 MR. BORROS: This is Aaron Bokros
23 again. Thank you, Mr. Koehler for
24 answering that question. I do appreciate
25 it. Would the dollars as you say, I am
January 11, 2021 Public Hearings 40
1 aware of the.; listing price of the
2 property. is that the price -- and .I know
3 selling development rights would not come
4 near to costs but I understand the value
5 and using the sale of development rights --
6 but is that costs what you are looking at?
7 MR. KOEHLER: Yes.
8 MR. BOKROS: Straight up financing
9 for that --
10 MS. LANZA: Might I remind people
11 that people have to address the Board.
12 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: I would just
13 like to interject. I think if Mr. Bokros,
14 if you would like to contact Mr. Koehler on
15 your own and maybe have that discussion --
16 you know, we shouldn't be discussing sales
17 and such on this Public Hearing.
18 MR. BOKROS: I am not trying to
19 say that I would do that. I am trying to
20 ascertain whether or not that would be
21 explored by the Town because obviously you
22 said it was at one point, but we have not
23 gotten a real answer as to why it wasn't
24 explored as a viable option. So I am
25 trying to ascertain Mr. Koehler's
January 11, 2021 Public Hearings 41
1 availability or his interest in being able
2 to do that. That is all I was
trying to
3 ascertain.
4 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: I think that
5 question would be either the County or the
6 Town of Southold because they would be the
7 one's responsible for purchasing the
8 development rights.
9 MR. BOKROS: Thank you. That
10 answers my questions.
11 MR. KOEHLER: Am I still on?
12 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Yes, John,
13 you are still on.
14 MR. KOEHLER: Make me an offer I
15 can't refuse.
16 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Okay.
17 Heather, do you want to continue?
18 MS. LANZA: Yes. Mike Kimack, you
19 had your hand raised?
20 MR. KIMACK: Yes. I just wanted
21 to fill in a few things for the people that
22 are out there with some concerns. On any
23 dock that is being put in, Don, is
24 absolutely right. It has to come under the
25 -jurisdiction of the Trustees. But it also
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1 comes under the jurisdiction of the
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3 they. don't have Public Hearing.'s, they have
4 their own standards of criteria by which to
5 judge the placement of that. As far as the
6 deer fencing is concerned, if there is a
7 deer fence proposed, that would fall under
8 the-office's of the Zoning Board. That
g' would be required a review and that would
10 require a Public Hearing. That's it.
11 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI:• Thank you,
12 Mike
13 MS. LANZA: I see one more raised
14 hand, the Dellaqilla's.
15 MS. DELLAQUILA: Denise
16 Dellaquila. I would just like to say thank
17 you very much. Everything was very
18 informative. John Koehler and Anne Smith
19 and Aaron Bokros, excellent, excellent
20 qluestions. And thank you very much for
21 your time everyone.
22 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Thank you
23 very much. I hope •we have answered the
24 questions and we are glad to hear that.
25 Thank you.
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1 MS. DELLAQUILA: Thank you.
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-F 2 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Heather, is
3 there anyone else up?
4 MS. LANZA: No.
5 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: We will give
6 one other shout out for someone to have the
7 floor and give comments to the Board?
8 (No Response) .
9 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Okay. Seeing
10 none, can I have a motion to close the
11 hearing --
12 MS. LANZA: Oh. There was a
13 irregularity in the posting where two
14 people did not get notified and I did not
15 see their names in this hearing. So I
16 recommend that you keep the hearing open,
17 so that Mike Kimack can rectify that and
18 get those people notified.
19 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Okay. Thank
20 you, Heather. Mike, I don't know if you're
21 still on, but if not, we will contact you
22 and let you know that there were two green
23 cards that were returned or not gotten back
24 to us. So the posting was not complete.
25 So maybe Mike, I don't know how long that
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1 would take to track down, but how does the
2 feeling of the Board to leave the hearing
3 open until February 8th?
4 MEMBER RICH: We can leave it open
5 for written comments.
6 MS- LANZA: Usually when you don't
7 -- those people should have the opportunity
8 to speak. It's up to you. I think you can
9 probably do that. But usually when this
10 happens, you guys leave it open to the next
11 meeting.
12 MEMBER RICH: So then we will
13 reconvene at the next public meeting.
14 MR.. KIMACK: Heather, can you tell
15 me which two? Because I received two green
16 cards today.
17 MS. LANZA: Oh. Did you get one
18 from Mattituck Airport and from
19 Hirsch/Murray?
20 MR. KIMACK: No. I did not. But
21 basically I put those out as quick as
22 possible to make sure that we got all the
23 green cards back. I think out of the total
24 numbers that were sent out, I think we got
25 16 or 17, 1 got 13 and 14 back.
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1 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Thank you.
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2 So I need the motion to hold the hearing
3 open until February 8th?
4 MEMBER RICH: I will make a
5 motion.
6 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Notion made
7 by Jim. Second?
8 MEMBER RAFFERTY: Second.
9 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Seconded by
10 Pierce.
11 Any discussion?
12 (No Response. )
13 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: All in favor?
14 MEMBER EISENSTEIN: Aye.
15 MEMBER RAFFERTY: Aye.
16 MEMBER RICH: Aye.
17 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Aye.
18 Opposed?
19 (No Response. )
20 CHAIRMAN WILCENSKI: Motion
21 carries. Thank you.
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23 (Whereupon, the Public Hearing
24 portion of the Southold Planning Board
25 concluded at this time. )
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4 I, JESSICA DIUMLO, a Court Reporter
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6 of New York, do hereby certify:
7 THAT the above and foregoing contains
8 a true and correct transcription of the
9 meeting held on January 11, 2021, via
10 videoconference, and were reported by me.
11 I further certify that I am not
12 related to any of the parties to this action
13 by blood or by marriage and that I am in no
14 way interested in the outcome of this matter.-
15 IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto
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