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MEMBERS
Robert W. Gillispie, .Jr., Chairman
Robert Bergen
Charles GrigonJ% Jr.
Serge Doyen~ Jr.
Fred Hulse, .Jr.
Southold Town Board of Appeals
ISOUTHOLD, L. !., N.Y. 119'71
Telephone 765-~660
MINUTES
Southold Town Board of Appeals
May 20, 1976
A regular meeting of the Southold Town Board of Appeals
was held at 7:30 P.M. (E~D.S.T.), Thursday, May 20, 1976,
at the Town Office, Ma±n Road, SoUthold, New York.
There were present: Messrs: Robert W. Gillispie, Jr.,
Chairman; Robert Bergen; Charles Grigonis, Jr.; Fred Hulse,
Jr., Serge Doyen, Jr.
Also present: Sherley Katz of the Long Island Traveler-
Mattituck' Watchman; Peter Campbell of The Suffolk Weekly Times;
William Terry representing the North Fork Environmental Council.
7:30 P.M.- Decision of the Board on Appeal No. 2114,
J. Parker wickham, scheduled for tonight, was postponed by
the Board until 7:30 P.M., ThurSday, June 10, 1976, upon
request of the office of Robert Tooker, Esq.
The following letter dated May 6, 1976 was received by
the Chairman:
Southold Town Board of Appeals
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May 20, 1976
Robert W. Gillispie, Jr., Chairman
Zoning Board of Appeals
Southold, N. Y.
Re: Dalchet Corporation to Rakowicz
Dear Mr. Gillispie:
"On January 19, 1976, the Dalchet Corporation conveyed to
one Stanley M. and Barbara Rakowicz a parcel of land fronting
on Harbor Lane, Cutchogue, New York. The land conveyed is
that parcel shown in the enclosed photocopy of survey.
It has now come to our attention that application should
have been made to your Board for the approval of the sale of
this parcel of land to Mr. and Mrs. Rakowicz. The reason for
such rests in the condition imposed by your Board when granting
an area variance on the conveyance from Dalchet to Fogarty
of the parcel situate at Main Road, Cutchogue, New York.
Please be assured that the conveyance to Rakowicz was
effected without any intent to circumvent the previous ruling
of your Board. The condition of approval required by your
Board was completely and inadvertently overlooked in this
entire transaction.
In any event, we trust that we might secure a letter of
approval from your Board particularly in the light of the fact
that the parcel set off to Mr. and Mrs. Rakowicz consists of
both front and rear frontages of 150 feet and depths running
to 308.31 feet. Thus, in terms of area there is in excess of
45,000 sq. ft. of area in the parcel conveyed.
If this conveya, nce meets with your approval, we should
appreciate receiving from you a letter to such effect at the
earliest possible date.
Thanking you for your courtesies extended, "
Very truly yours,
/s/ Richard J. Cron
THE CHAIRMAN: This was a case where a farm house was
granted a variance on a smaller than 40,000 sq. ft. lot pro-
viding the applicant would pick up lost acreage when he sold the~~
rest of the lots. We note that 5,000 sq. ft. of the original
deficit is accounted for by the overage of the size of land
sold to Mr. Rakowicz.
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May 20, 1976
THE CHAIRMAN (cont'd): One of the conditions of the
Board's action dated May 23, 1974 is "Future sales of all,
or any part, of the land remaining to Dalchet Corporation
shall be approved by the Board of Appeals.
The purpose of imposing this condition requiring approval
of the Board of any future sale is to assure that the sub-
stantial area deficit, of more than 20,000 sq. ft., created
by setting off lot, ±n the present Action, is compensated for
and corrected by increasing the size of any future tract or
tracts which may be s01d or set off."
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals GRANT
approval of the sale made to Stanley M. and Barbara Rakowicz
on January 19, 1976. After investigation it was noted that
the parcel set off consists of front and rear frontages of
150 feet and depths running to 308.31 feet There is an over-
age in excess of 5,000 sq. ft. of the size of land sold to
Mr. and Mrs. Rakowicz. In terms of area there is in excess
of 45,000 sq. ft. of area in parcel conveyed.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen,
Grigonis, Hulse, Doyen.
The secretary was directed to write a letter to Richard J.
Cron, Esq. informing h~m of the above action of the Board.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the Southold Town Board of
Appeals dated April 29, 1976 be approved as submitted, subject
to minor correction.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen,
Grigonis, Hulse, Doyen.
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On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED that the minutes of the Southold Town Board of
Appeals dated May 7, 1976 be approved as submitted, subject
to minor correction.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen,
Grigonis, Hulse, Doyen.
7:45 P.M. - Decision on Appeal No. 2118, Joseph and Anne
Polashock, Third Street, New Suffolk, New York. A public
hearing was held on this appeal on April 29, 1976.
By investigation and public hearing the Board~'~.P~l~
determined that the applicant owns an unimproved lot of approxi-
mately one half acre at Jackson Street and 2nd Street in New
Suffolk, surrounded on three sides by improved residential
properties, opposite a 1.3 acre Town beach parking area Which
accommodates parking for bathers plus an area reserved for
and limited to approximately thirteen (13) autos with'boat
trailers. When this latter facility is filled, particularly
on weekends during the fishing season, roving automobiles with
trailers simply park on the historically narrow streets of New
Suffolk. The overflow parks on public and private property
blocking driveways and contributing to all of the problems
associated with heavy traffic in a confined area.
Historically, New Suffolk is associated witk ship building,
commercial and pleasure fishing during the season from May to
October. The Town has built a ramp for launching private boats
nearby, furnishes personnel to supervise parking and bathing.
In spite of all efforts to accommodate visitors New Suffolk
has a continuing problem which is temporarily relieved by the
fact that the boat ramp is useless because of a sand bar.
Dredging of this sand bar in order to accommodate the launching
of local and visitor's boats is delayed by the massive bureau~-
cracy concerned with environmental considerations involved in
dredging.
A seasonal variance, assuming that the Board of Appeals
could, in fact, vary a residential use to a commercialluse,
to permit seasonal parking of auto and boat trailers will not,
in our opinion, solve the parking problem of New Suffolk by
commercializing the applicant's lot and might compound the
problem by encouraging more out of town residents to attempt
fishing from New Suffolk. Neighbors adjoining the applicant's
lot would, be subjected to noise, safety, traffic, and sanitary
problems in excess of what is currently being experienced.
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May 20, 1976
The applicant's hardship related to obtaining potable water
was self imposed at the time of purchase of the lot prior to
zoning and is not an unusual hardship in the area. It
might be noted that there are residents on three sides of
the applicant's lot using water. Further, it should be noted
that, in our opinion, a substantial majority of New Suffolk's
residents do not favor additional commercialization of the
water-front area because of problems already noted. An over-
all solution may be possible but such a solution is not
within the province of this Board.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
would not produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is not unique and would be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property and
in the same use district; and the variance will change the
character of the neighborhood, and will not observe the spirit
of the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED, Appeal No. 2118, Joseph and Anne Polashock,
Third Street, New Suffolk, N. Y., be DENIED permission to use
vacant lot for parking on the north side of Jackson Street and
west side 2nd Street, New Suffolk, N. Y., as applied for, for
the reasons stated herein, without prejudice to a future
solution.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen,
Grigonis, Hulse, Doyen.
Mr. Joseph Polashock questioned the above decision. He said
"You did not go into anything about zoning from Business to
Residential. This was zoned Business when I bought it originally.
THE C~AIRMAN: What you mean is that it was a business area.
to Residential.
MR. POLASHOCK:
notarized papers.
In a case like that you have to send out
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May 20, 1976
THE CHAIRMAN: I think you will find that all requirements
were fulfilled. This is a matter that is up to the Town Board.
I don't think this Board has the power to change your lot.
MR. POLASHOCK: It's surrounded by business on the corner
and around the corner. My complaint is that it was changed from
Business to Residential without notifying me. Now that I have
a chance to make some money I am being denied.
THE CHAIRMAN: But not by this Board. We can't change the
Ordinance. I think this problem has to be solved by the Town
Board or the Planning Board.
MR. POLASHOCK: Thank you for your trouble.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2126 - 8:00 P.M. (E.D.S.T.)
upon application of Doric Dimensions Corporation, CR27, Mattituck,
New York (Catherine Zarbis) for a special exception in accordance
with the Zoning Ordinance, Article VI, Section 100-60C (B) for
permission to erect additional ground sign. Location of property:
south side Sound Avenue (CR27), Mattituck, New York, bounded on
the north by Sound Avenue (CR27); east by now or formerly Pylko;
south by now or formerly H. R. Reeve; west by now or formerly
V. Norris. Fee paid $15.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a special exception, legal notice of hearing, affidavits
attesting to its publication in the official newspapers, and
notice to the applicant. The Chairman also read statemen~ from
Town Clerk of notification by certified mail to Joseph Meglio and
Mary Pylko.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: I.S there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: I will have to speak agains~ this application
because the Ordinance has been amended to require that where
there is more than one business on the premises each tenant
shall join with the others in placing the name of his business
on one 12' x 6'6" business sign.
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After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
applicant requests permission to erect additional ground sign
on the south side of Sound Avenue (CR27), Mattituck, New York.
The findings of the Board are that Twin Fork Fence Company,
the company from whom Doric Dimensions Corp. are subleasing
the property, does not wish to have another sign attached to
its post for reasons of visibility. However, the Southold
Town Ordinance has been amended to require that each tenant
join with the others in placing the name of their business on
one 12' x 6'6" business sign. Therefore, the Board finds that
applicant must combine sign with present leaseholder's sign.
The Board also finds that a second business sign was put in
place prior to the amendment of the Ordinance which was amended
to avoid duplication of business signs.
The Board finds that the public convenience and welfare
and justice ~ill not be served and the legally established or
permitted use of neighborhood property and adjoining use districts
will be permanently or substantially injured and the spirit of
the Ordinance will not be observed.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED, Doric ~imensions Corporation, CR27, Mattituck,
New York, be DENIED permission to erect additional ground sign
on premises located on the south side of Sound Avenue, (CR27),
Mattituck, New York, as applied for, for the reasons stated.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Grigonis,
Hulse, Doyen.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2127 8:10 P.M. (E.D.S.T.)
upon application of Robert B. Hamilton, 1180 Smith's Drive South,
Southold, N. Y. for a variance in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-30 and Bulk Schedule for
permission to build an addition leaving insufficient side yard.
Location of property: Smith Drive SQuib, Southold, New York,
Lots 47 and 48, Goose Neck Est. Fee paid $15.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a variance, legal notice of hea~ing, affidavits attesting
to its publication in the official newspapers, and notice to'the
applicant. The Chairman also read statement by Town Clerk con-
cerning notification by certified mail to: Thomas W. O'Neill and
Goose Neck Property Owners Association.
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May 20, 1976
THE CHAIRMAN: The sketch accompanying the application shows
that applicant has an existing dwelling and proposes to make
an addition to this building which will decrease the present
sideyardsl
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
MR. ROBERT HAMILTON: I made a little sketch showing how it
will be.
THE CHAIRMAN: So the total sideyards at the rear will be
about 24 feet.
MR. HAMILTON: It is about 10" shy.
THE CHAIRMAN: The total at the front will be 24'7"
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
MR. THOMAS O'NEILL: I have no objection to the application.
THE CHAIRMAN: Are there any other questions?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
applicant requests permission to build an addition leavinq in-
sufficient side yard located on Smith Drive South, Southoid,
New York. The findings of the Board are. that this is a very
minor request for a variance occasioned by the topography of the
lot. The Board agrees with the reasoning of the applicant.
The Board finds that strict application~?of the Ordinance
would produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by
all properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property
and in the same use district; and the variance will not change
the character of the neighborhood, and will observe the spirit
of the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Doyen, it was
RESOLVED, Robert B. Hamilton, 1180 Smith's Drive South,
SouthOld, New York, be GRANTED permission to build an addition
leaving insuffi¢~ient side yard, Lots 47 and 48, Goose N~ck Est.,
Smith Drive South~ Southold, New York, as applied for~ subject to
Suffolk County Planning Commission approval.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen,
Grigonis, Hulse, Doyen.
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May 20, 1976
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2128 - 8:20 P.M. (E.D.S.T.)
upon application of Steven Papastefanou, Main Road, East Marion,
New York (Bernard Wiener-Hendon Pools), 201 Hempstead Turnpike,
Elmont, New York, for a variance in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-30 C & 100-32 for permission
to construct private swimming pool in front yard area. Location
of property: Main Road, East Marion, N. Y., bounded on the
north by Main Road (Rte 25); east by Private Road (Cedar Drive);
south by Private Road (Cedar Drive); west by L. T. Vail. Fee
paid $15.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a variance, legal notice of hearing, 'affidavits attesting to
its publication in the official newspapers, and notice to the
applicant. The Chairman also read statement from the Town Clerk
attesting to notification by certified mail to: Lillian and
Albert Vail.
THE CHAIRMAN: The application is accompanied by a sketch
and also a survey of Van Tuyl dated March 2, 1972. The property
has 82.19 feet on Main Road, 298.18 feet on Private Road and
286.91 adjoining Vail's property. The dwelling runs lengthwise
with the property facing Cedar Drive. The depth of the · lot inhibits
the rear yard. The lot is surrounded by three roads. For zoning
purposes the applicant has three front yards: Main Road, Cedar
Drive and Private Road. Normally the applicant would not have to
obtain a variance to install a swimming pool unless it conflicts with
the usual location which is allowed in the rear yard. The purpose
of the Board of Appeals is to grant relief to people who own old
lots which existed prior to the passage of the Zoning Ordinance.
In other words, to relieve unique or unusual hardship - both of
which seem to apply in this case. Many of the adjoining lots are
smaller in size than what is required by the Town now.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
BABETTE KULKA, Sesame Construction Services: I am represent-
ing the swimming pool company, Bernard Weiner-H.endon Pools. I do
b~lieve you covered it all when you said if ~his did not face on
three roads, this problem would not exist.
THE CHAIRMAN: Our Ordinance requires that a pool be enclosed
with a 4 foot fence. Would your client have any objection to a
higher fence?
BABETTE KULKA: If you make that a condition, I am sure
they would not object.
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THE CHAIRMAN: Does anyone else wish to speak for this
application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: I will read a letter whi~ch we have received,
dated May 6, 1976, which protest.s the granting of this variance:
"In connection with request of Mr. Steven Papastefanou
for a zoning variance to put a swimming pool on the north
side of his house adjacent to Main Road, we, as the owners
of adjacent property on the west, do violently object to
such a request.
Yours truly,
/s/ Mr. & Mrs. Albert E. Vail
THE CHAIRMAN: There is also a petition from the Board of
Directors of the Gardiners Bay Estates Club, Inc. signed by ten
residents, dated May 15, 1976. (Petition in file).
THE CHAIRMAN: I note that there are quite a few people
present who I believe are here to speak against this application.
MRS. ALBERT E. VAIL: I understood it was to be put on the
north side.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is this the principle point of objection?
It's on the Main Road but the pool is to be placed south of the
house. Does that answer your objection?
MR. FRED M. WINGETT: That's the only reason we are here.
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
applicant requests permission to construct private swimming pool
at M~in'~o~ad and Cedar Drive, East Marion, N. Y. The findings of
the Boar~ are that for zoning purposes the applicant ~has three
front yards, the house is located running lengthwise with the lot
and facing Cedar Drive. The depth of the lot inhibits locating
a ~s~immlng pool~n the rear yard. The size of this lot and others
in the su'rrounding area was established befa~e the passage of a
zoning ordinance. The Board agrees with the reasoning of the
applicant.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
would produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and woul~ not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property and
in the same use district; and the variance will not change the
character of the neighborhood, and will observe the spirit of
the Ordinance.
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On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED, Steven Papastefanou, Main Road, East Marion,
New York (Bernard Weiner-Hendon Pools), 201 Hempstead Turnpike,
Elmont, New York, be GRANTED permission to construct private
swimming pool in front yard area, as applied for, subject to
the following conditions:
1. That the swimming pool be placed south of the house
as applied for.
2. Fencing for the pool shall be no less than 5 feet in
height.
3. Subject to Suffolk County Planning Commission approval.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gitlispie, Bergen,
Grigonis, Hulse, Doyen.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2129 - 8:30 P.M. (E.D.S.T.)
upon application of George Wallace, Rabbit Lane, East Marion,
N. Y. (Sesame Construction Services, Inc.) for a variance in
accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-
30 C (2) (d) & 100-32 C for permission to constructlswimming
pool on secondary parcel of land. Location of property: Rabbit
Lane (Private Road), East Marion, N. Y., bounded on the north
by Marion Lake; east by S. Wolfe; south by Rabbit Lane; west
by R. Rackett. Fee paid $15.00.
The Chairman opened th~ hearing by reading the application
for a variance, legal notice of hearing, affidavits attesting
to it's publication in the official newspapers, and notice to
the applicant. The Chairman also read letter from Town Clerk
attesting to notification by certified mail to Donald M. Cyriaks,
D. P. Racksttr j.'C. Racket%, Mr. and Mrs. Stefanides~ Mr. and
Mrs. Stanley-Wo!ie.
THE CHAIRMAN: Across the street applicant owns property
which is approximately 104' x 152' and Which f~ont~ on Marion
Lake. The proposal is to place the pool (60' x .~0'') on the
easterly portion Of applicant's'vacant lot.
.THE C~IRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application? ~'
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BABETTE KULKA: I would like to correct this application.
The proposed swimming pool is not located on the easterly side
but rather 5 feet from the westerly property line and 25 feet
from Marion Lake.
THE CHAIRMAN: Could you locate this 10 feet from the
property line. Does that give you enough room from the
culvert?
MS. KULKA: I could not find the culvert but I understand
from the construction crew that it is thers. When they were
at the lot they measured that the pool would be 10 feet
from the culvert. I'm sure they want to leave enough room
so they don't hit a pipe.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is it the owner's plan to sell?
MS KULKA: I don~t think so. It is for his enjoyment.
This property is really Used as one parcel, he considers it
as one.
THE CHAIRMAN: The proposal would be to puH it on the
westerly portion of the lot which would be away from the
stockade fence. We were going to suggest that it be at least
10 feet from the adjoining property owner but you have a culvert
problem.
MS KULKA: The hole that is dug is two feet wider than the
pool.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Are there any questions?
MS. KULKA: Would there be any objection by the Board to
placing the pool 5 feet from the westerly line instead of from
the easterly line?
THE CHAIRMAN: No, there would be no objection.
they discovered that the trees would shadow the~?6ol.
will the pool be to Rabbit' Lane?
I guess
How close
MS. KULKA: The lot is 152' deep on that side, it would be
about ~0 feet from RAbbit Lane.
THE CHAIRMAN: Suppose we say "no closer than 5 feet to the
westerly property line, and no closer than 50 feet to Rabbit Lane?
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MS. KULKA: Could the Board allow us closer to Rabbit
Lane? We don't want to get too close to Marion Lake. Would
you allow us 40 feet from Rabbit Lane?
(The Board discussed the setback).
THE CHAIRMAN: Yes, that would be back of the established
front yard setback.
MS. KULKA: I will send a revised drawing.
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
applicant requests permission to construct swimming pool on
secondary parcel of land located on Rabbit Lane (Private Road),
East Marion, N. ¥. The Board agrees with the reasoning of the
applicant subject to the pool being located no closer than
40 feet to Rabbit Lane, which would be back of the established
front yard setback; and no closer than 5 feet to the westerly
property line.
The Board finds that strict application of~ the Ordinance
would produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the_hardship created is unique and would not be shared by
all properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property
and in the same use district; ~and the variance will not change
the character of the neighborhood, and will observe the spirit
of the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Hulse, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED, George Wallace, Rabbit Lane, East Marion, N. Y.,
be GRANTED permission to construct swimming pool on secondary
parcel of land located on Rabbit Lane (Private Road), East
Marion, N. Yo, as applied for, subject to the following conditions:
1. That pool be located no closer than 5 feet to the
westerly pb~p~r~y line.
2. That pool be located no closer than 40 feet to
Rabbit Lane.
3. Subject to approval of Suffolk County Planning Commission.
4. Also, subject to receipt of revised drawing from
Babette Kulka, Sesame ConstructiOn Services, Inc.
Vote of the Board: A~es:~ Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen,
Grigonis, Hulse, Doyen. ~ ~ ~
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PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2130 8:45 P.M. (E.D.S.T.)
upon application 0f Edward C. Clingen, Young's Road, Orient,
New York for a special exception in accordance with the
Zoning Ordinance, Article YII, Section 100-30 C (6F) for
permission to erect off-premises rental sign. Location of
property: South side Main Road, Orient, New York, bounded on
the north by Main Road (Rte 25); east by C. Knispel; south by
Hale & Kellogg; west by ~loyd King. Fee paid $15.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by ~eading the application
for a special exception, legal notice of hearing, affidavits
attesting to its publiCation in the official newspapers, and
notice to the applicant. The Chairman also read letter from
the Town Clerk attesting to notification by certified mail to:
Charles B. Knispel and Floyd F. King.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to
speak for this appl±cation?
MR. EDWARD C. CLINGEN: I am here to speak for it.
THE CHAIRMAN: This is a type of use which has long ago
been discontinued. This type of sign, off-premises rental,
is not permitted so unless you have something else to offer,
the Board will have to deny this application.
MR. CLINGEN: Since zoning came in, we had that sign.
MRS. CLINGEN: They told us it was a legal sign.
THE CHAIRMAN: This is the Board of Appeals and we fought a
long, hard fight to eliminate billboards. This is one of the
type of signs that is not permitted. Our highways would literally
be strewn with off-premises rental signs if this were not the
case.
MR. CLINGEN: Why is that different f~om an off-premises
restaurant sign?
THE CHAIRMAN: The feeling of the planners of the Zoning
Ordinance was to balance the interests of residential property
Owners, business interests, and a~ricultural interests, amd
we are trying to keep those in baiance. Some people described
some of the signs as visual pollution. A sign of the type you
are asking for is solely for the benefit of the owner; it's not
in the general interest of the people of the Town of Southold.
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As far as restaurants and places to sleep, and places of
amusement, are concerned, the rationale is that the
traveling public (which is partly responsible for the
growth of the comr~unity) needs directions for food and
lodging. Other than that, there are no signs.
MR. CLINGEN: We have been renting off that lot since
1950. I have had several signs there. They said one on the
road was a legal sign. This was a long time ago. This sign
will be there for another week.
THE CHAIRMAN: You have no right to have a sign there.
MR. CLINGEN: How about the Methodist Church?
THE CHAIRMAN: This is not a church or a historical
society. It is for cottage rentals.
THE CHAIRMAN: Are there any questions?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds
that applicant requests permission to erect off-premises
rental sign on the south side of Main Road, Orient, New York.
This is a type of use which has long ago been discontinued
in the Town of Southold. It is not a permitted use; it is
solely for the benefit of the owner and is not in the general
interest of the people of the Town of Southold. The Board
does not agree with the reasoning of the applicant.
The Board finds that the public ~o~eRi~Dce and welfare
and justice will not be served and the legally established or
permitted use of neighborhood property and adjoining use
districts will be permanently or substantially injured and the
spirit of the Ordinance will not be observed.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Doyen, it was
RESOLVED, Edward C. Clingen, Young's Road, Orient, New York,
be DENIED permission to erect off-premises rental sign for the
reasons stated.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen,
Grigonis, Hulse, Doyen.
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PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2132 - 8:55 P.M. (E.D.S.T.)
upon application of Leo W. Tillinghast, 59 Wilmarth Avenue,
Greenport, New York for a variance in accordance with the
Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-30 A. and Bulk
Schedule for permission to construct porch addition with in-
sufficient side yard. Location of property: south side of
Wilmarth Avenue & north side ~ashington Avenue, Greenport, Map
of Washington Heights, Lots 41 and 50, Wilmarth Avenue,
Greenport, N. Y. Fee paid $15.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a variance, legal notice of hearing, affidavits attesting
to its publication in the official newspapers, and notice to
the applicant. The Chairman also read letter from Town Clerk
attesting to notification by certified mail to ~ Stanley Harris
and to Robert Kruszeski.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to
speak for this application?
MR. LEO TILLINGHAST: I am here to speak for it.
THE CHAIRMAN: You were granted a variance to use these
two lots in December of 1972. Both of these lots were under-
sized even at that time before the lot size became 40,000 sq. ft.
These lots were in single and separate ownership going back
to the 1920s. It looks as if the surveyor squared them off.
I have read the minutes of 1972 and there is nothing in the
official record about porches. You had a neighbor to the
west who did not provide 1t feet.
MRo TILLINGHAST: He had been told I would build right on
the line in the center of the lot. It was set approximately
12 feet on each side and I said my doors were on the side and
I would need porches.
THE CHAIRMAN: Porches are part of the house.
MR. TILLINGHAST: So Mr. Terry told me.
THE CHAIRMAN: How far does your porch go to the line?
MR. TILLINGHAST: It is flush with the front of the house
and extends part way back. It is 11' x 26', it is roofed over
and screened in.
THE CHAIRMAN: Do you enclose it in the winter?
MR. TILLINGHAST: No.
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THE CHAIRMAN: It appears that a fence has been installed.
MR. TILLINGHAST: The fence is on the line.
THE CHAIRMAN: The porch goes to the line.
MR. TILLINGHAST: It attaches to the porch so the dogs
can't get out. The fence comes out on the west from the edge
of the building to the westerl~ line.
THE CHAIRMAN: I believe you have a door which is on the
easterly side of the porch. Is there anyone present who wishes
to speak against this application?
JEAN HARRIS: I live on the easterly side. What happens
if this goes over the line?
THE CHAIRMAN: I think you would have legitimate cause for
complaint or removal. We have to view this as though Mr.
Tillinghast made this application in good faith at the time he
wanted to put the porch on and the Board has to decide what
would have been permitted at that time. If he had come in and
said we need a porch, I don't believe that under any circum-
stances %he Board could approve it the way it is.
MRS. HARRIS: If it is over the line can he say, after
a number of years, that it is his property?
THE CHAIRMAN: Yes. I believe he could assert ownership.
However, if Mr. Tillinghast put his fence inside the line you
could, eventually, assert ownership. The Tillinghasts are
required to furnish a reasonable amount of sideyard even in
this cramped situation and that's what the Board has to con-
sider. The minimum that I think the Board can consider is
3 feet so you will have to take 3 feet off the porch.
MR. KRUSZESKI: You mean 3 feet from the property line.
THE CHAIRMAN: We are asking for a 3 foot side yard.
After. investigation and inspection the Board finds that
applicant reques~ts permission to construct porch addition
with insufficient side yard on the south side of Wilmarth
Avenue, Greenport. The findings of the Board are that
Mr. Tillinghast put up a porch without approval of the Board
of ~ppeals becau~se of a misunderstanding. The Board agrees
to allow the porch to remain if applicant decreases its depth
to allow for a 3 foot sidle yard.
The Board f~nds that strict application of the Ordinance
woul~ produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship crleated is unique and would not be shared by all
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properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property
and in the same use district; and the variance will not change
the character of the neighborhood, and will observe the spirit
of the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED~ Leo W. Tillinghast, 59 Wilmarth Avenue, Greenport,
New York, be GRANTED permission to retain porch addition,
subject to the following conditions:
1. That 3 feet of the porch shall be excised to allow
for a 3 foot side yard.
That this reduction in the depth of the porch shall
be completed within 90 days from May 20, 1976,
(August 20, 1976).
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen,
Grigonis, Hulse, Doyen.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2131 - 9:10 P.M. (E.D.S.T.)
upon application of MillWood Homes Ltd., 122 Orleans Lane,
Jericho, New York for a variance in accordance with the
Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-30 and Bulk
Schedule for permission to construct three dwellings with in-
sufficient width and area. Location of property: Wabasso/
Nakomis Road, Southold, bounded on the north by Theodore Kw~nik;
east by Wabasso Street; south by C. Nelson & A. KwaSnik; west
by Nakomis Road. Fee paid $15.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a variance, legal notice of hearing, affid[avits attesting
to its publication in the official newspapers, and notice to
the aPplicant. The Chairman also read letter from Town Clerk
stating that notification by certified mail was made to:
Theodore Kw~snik; Charles M. Nelson & Wife; Adela Kwasnik.
THE CHAIRMAN: I believe I will have to disassociate myself
from this hearing as I believe you have a~real estate license
with my son.
MR. FRED HULSE, JR., Acting Chairman: Will you please state
your name.
MR. SAUL MILLMAN: It is my aPplication.
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May 20, 1976
MR. HULSE: Do you have anything to add to what is in
the application?
MR. MILLMAN: I just rest my case on what is in the
application.
MR. HULSE: Is there anyone else present who wishes to
speak for this application?
(There was no response.)
MR. HULSE: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response.)
MR. HULSE: After going over the area quite extensively
today and Tuesday, we find that the adjoining property owners
are in almost a like situation. These are single lots and I
am sure the Board would not grant more than two lots because
the property is small.
MR. MILLMAN: The trend is to make them into smaller lots.
Nobody is buying plots to make larger parcels. I believe in time
they most likely will divide those similar to others.
MR. HULSE: Another thing you have to take into consideration
is sewage and water. (referring to sketch) These two lots here
were of a similar size. They were three small parcels which
were divided into two lots. I am sure the Board would not go
along with three lots.
MR. ROBERT BERGEN: Do you have some way you want to divide
this? You could bring it in to us. We would like to have it
divided as equally as possible.
MR. HULSE: By leaving this lot (referring to sketch) we
would have 13,750 sq. ft. instead of 12,650 sq. ft.
There was fur%her discussion and Mr. Hulse polled the Board
as to whether they should grant two lots or three lots. The
members of the Beard: Mr. Bergen, Mr. Grigonis and Mr. Doyen
all voted for Cwo lots.
MR. HULSE: There are definitely not going to be three
houses. The whole parcel is not large enough to make three
lots. It will still be vastly undersized.
MR. MILLMAN: The whole line of the street is a single
situation.
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MR. HULSE: You could divide it right straight through
and make a driveway. Would you like us to hold it in abeyance?
Would you prefer to have one parcel on Nakomis Street and one
on Wabasso Street so you would have approximately 23,000 sq. ft.
on Nakomis and the lot on Wabasso Street would stay as it is.
MR. BERGEN: I would rather see it divided so the lots are
more equal in size.
(Mr. Mitlman and the Board studied the sketch).
MR. HULSE: You could have two houses on Nakomis Road.
MR. SERGE DOYEN: I think that makes it rather restrictive.
It leaves an odd frontage and side yards. You are restricting
the possibilities and the configuration of the house.
MR. BERGEN: I suggest that we vote on two lots and have
Mr. Millman bring in a new sketch to the Building Inspector.
There can only be two lots and we would like to have them as
equal as possible in area.
MR. MILLMAN: It will be difficult because the main purpose
of the applicat±on is because we have two streets.
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
applicant requests permission to construct three dwellings
with insufficient width and area on property lo~ated at Wabasso
and Nakomis Roads, Southold, New York. The findings of the Board
are that the lots are undersized so the Board would not be
willing to grant three lots but would be agreeable to granting
two lots subject to applicant furnishing sketch of division of
property for the Board's approval.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
would produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardshiP created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property,
and in the same use district; and the variance will not change
the character of the neighborhood, and will observe the spirit
of the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Hulse, seconded by Mr. Grigonls, it was
RESOLVED, Millwood Homes, Ltd., 122 Orleans Lane, Jericho,
New York, be DENIED permission to construct three dwellings
on property located at Wabasso Road and Nakomis Road, Southold,
New York, as applied for, but shall be GRANTED permission to
divide property consisting of Lots 50, 51 and 40, Map of Section
2, Laughing Water, Southold, into two lots, subject to the
following condition:
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That applicant furnish the Board of Appeals with a
sketch showing the division of property into two lots,
for their approval.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen,
Grigonis, Hulse, Doyen.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2133 9:25 P.M. (E.D.S.T.)
upon application of William Wickham, Main Road, Mattituck, New York
for a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article
VI, Section 100-61 & 100-62 & Article VII, Section 100'?1, and
Article XI, Section 100-112 C & Section 10D-113 (2) for permission
to construct addition causing insufficient off-street parking.
Location of property: North side Main Road (Rte 25), Mattituck,
New York, bounded on the north by Mattituck Park District; east
by L. D~h~n Est.; south by Main Road; west by V. Stype. Fee
paid $15.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a varia~ce,~legal notice of hearing, affidavits attesting
to its publlca~0n in the official newspaPers,~ and notice to
the applicant. The Chairman also read letter from the Town Clerk
indicating that notification by certified mail has been made to:
Valentine W. Stype, Mr. and Mrs. Walter Dohm, Mattituck Park
District.
T~E CHAIRMAN: Tke application is accompanied by a sketch
indicating that this is a narrOw lot a~i~the-downtOwn business
area of~a~±itu~k abuts the MattitUck?'Park Dis~rlct to ~he north.
The pr~si~ffice building will slightly reduce the par~ing area
to 'the north.
~ THE C~LAIRF~AN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
WILLIAM~ICKHAM, ESQ.: I would li~e ~o add a couple Of
like to submit a map of that. It's very seldom filled.
MR. ROBERT BERGEN: That holds 75 to 80 cars.
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MR. WICKHAM: Because of the traffic situation it is
very beneficial for all of us to use this parking area
because coming out of my office it is sometimes very difficult
to turn east. If we use the parking area we can swing north
on Wickham Avenue or go to the school and turn east on Main
Road. It works out very nicely because there is a lot of traffic
on the Main Road.
THE CHAIRMAN: It seems that an overflow of parking would
be handled by the Mattituck Park District.
THE CHAIRMAN: Does anyone else wish to speak for this
application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
applicant requests permission to construct addition causing
insufficient offstreet parking on property located on the north
side of Main Road (Rte 25), Mattituck, New York. The findings
of the Board are that a shortage of parking whenever it exists
will be supplemented by the Mattituck Park District which is
adjacent to William Wickham's office, and the Park District will
be fulfilling the purpose for which it was created. The Board
agrees with the reasoning of the applicant.
The Board finds that strict application_of the Ordinance
would produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property and
in the same use district; and the variance will not change the
character of the neighborhood, and will observe the spirit of the
Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Bergen, seconded by Mr. Grigonis, it was'-
RESOLVED, William Wickham, Main Road, Mattituck, New York
be GRANTED permission to construct addition to building located
on the north side of Main Road (Rte 25), Mattituck, New York,
as applied for, subject to approval of Suffolk County Planning
Commi§sion.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Grigonis,
Hulse, Doyen.
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May 20, 1976
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2134 - 9:35 P.M. (E.D.S.T.)
upon application of Marcus & Joanna Bryan, 108 Wedgewood Drive,
Coram, New York for a variance in accordance with the Zoning
Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-30 and Bulk Schedule for
permission to construct dwelling with insufficient setback.
Location of property: Glen~ Court, Birch Hills, Cutchogue,
New York, Lot ~3, Map of Birch Hills ~4908. Fee paid $15.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a variance, legal notice of hearing, affidavits attesting
to its publication in the official newspapers, and notice to
the applicant. The Chairman also read letter from the Town
Clerk indicating notification by ~ertified mail to: President,
Birch Hills Property Owners Association; Vaino Halla.
THE CHAIRMAN: The application is wrongly marked "A Variance
to Section 280A, Section 3" That is a variance for access so
we are correcting that on the application. This is for a variance
to the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-30. The
application is accompanied by a Site Plan. This office has
made a copy of the County Tax map which indicates that Lot ~3
is in Birch H±lls subdivision on Long Island Sound off Glen
Court Road, a private road. The remaining lots in the sub-
division are approximately the same size, roughly 20,000 sq. ft.
MR. ROBERT BERGEN: How deep is that lot?
THE C~iAIRMAN: 205 ft. plus 50' beach dimension, which is
for park and playground.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
MRS. JOANNE BRYAN: We own to the bottom of the bank.
THE CHAIRMAN: You don't own the beach.
MRS. BRYAN: No.
THE CHAIRMAN: The proposal is to face this house
diagonally, to face the sunset, not parallel to the road.
The closest point would be 20 feet to Glen Court, and 25'
to the Park and Playground.
MRS. BRYAN: The only thing I can say is that we have
a 1972 survey and when we went out to locate the pilons,
according to the map, this is where it indicated it was but in
actuality it's a lot closer to the cliff. We discovered we
had less land than we thought we h~ad. My husband found the
pilon in the woods but it was much closer to the cliff edge..
Mr. Lark is separated by the Park and Playground from us . I spoke
to him and he seems to have a serious erD$iD~ problem. He has
20' to 30' over the cliff edge. ~e is tnln~lng of putting in an
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informal bulkhead and brush to stabilize the cliff.
THE CHAIRMAN: Someone thought of building a swimming
pool on the edge.
MRS. BRYAN: We bought the lots from the people who
planned to do that. We bought both lots, #'s 2 and 3, from
Dawson. Concerning the other gentleman to the west, we did
notify him but he sent a letter to the Property Owners Associ-
ation.
THE CHAIRMAN: The followinq letter was received from the
Birch Hills Property Owners AssoCiation:
"On Sunday, May 16, 1976, our Association met to consider the
requested variance for the proposed home of Marcus and Joanne
Bryan to be located on Lot ~3 of the Birch Hills subdivision.
The~ majority of the members present voted against the request
that the house be placed 20 feet from the r6adside property line.
A compromise proposal was however agreed upon: if the Bryans
would move the proposed house to a position thirty-five feet
from the easterly property line and place the parking area off
the road and on the eastern side of the house, the Association
would have no objection to the Bryans obtaining a variance to
place the house twenty-five feet from the roadside property line.
We hope this information aids you in the decision before you."
/s/ Barbara R. Wilhelm
Secretary
Dated: May 16, 1976
THE CHAIRMAN: What was their reasoning?
MRS. BRYAN: They wanted the parking area located so you
can't back into the private road. I think that's what we would
prefer. We are not having a garage and it was the most direct
route into Lhe house but this proposal meets with our approval.
The proposal is to set the house further to the west by 10 feet
and to move the parking area around or to have a driveway
into the parking area.
THE CHAIRMAN: This involves moving your house 5 feet closer
to the cliff.
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May 20, 1976
THE CHAIP/~AN: Is there anyone present who wishes to
speak against this application?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
applicant requests permission to construct dwelling with in-
sufficient setback, Lot 3, Map of Birch Hills, Cutchogue, New
York. The applicant has a hardship due to erosion of the cliff.
The Board agrees with the reasoning of the applicant.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
would produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property
or in the same use district; and the variance will not chanqe'
the character of the neighborhood, and will observe the spirit of
the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED, Marcus & Joanne Bryan, 108 Wedgewood Drive, Coram,
New York be GRANTED permission to construct dwelling with in-
sufficient setback on Lot #3, Map of Birch Hiltst Cutchogue,
New York, as applied for, subject to the following conditions:
1. That the house shall be placed no closer than
35 fee% to the easter!y property line and no closer
~ than 25 feet from Glen Court, a private road in this
s~b~47~s~s~bdivision.
That a parking lot for two cars be constructed
further north than presently indicated on the site plan
and be reached by a short (10 foot) driveway.
Vote of the Board:
Grigonis, Hulse, Doyen.
Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen,
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2135 - 9.
.50 P.M. (E.D.S.T.)
upon aPplicati6n 0f Cline W. Cornell, Oakwood~.'Driv~, Southold,
New York (R. G. Terry, Jr., Attorney) for a variance in
accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article ~IIt, Section
100-30 and Bulk Schedule for permission to divide property
with insufficient~width and area. Location of property:
Oakwood Drive & Christophs~ Street, Southold, New ~ork. Fee
paid $15.00.
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The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a variance, legal notice of hearing, affidavits attest-
ing to its publication in the official newspapers, and notice
to the applicant. The Chairman also read statement from
Town Clerk that notification by certified mail had been made
to: Dr. and Mrs. Charles J. Vaccariello and Mr. and Mrs. Walter
K. Butterfield.
THE CHAIRMAN: The application ms accompanied by a copy
of survey indicating the location of house and lot on
Christopher Street and Oakwood Drive. There is a copy of
another survey dated May 1964 by Van Tuyl for Harry Scileppi
which shows the location on Oakwood Drive.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to
speak ~or this application?
R. G. TERRY, JR., Esq.: I am here to represent Cline W.
Cornell.
THE CHAIRMAN: Can you identify which lots we are talking
about here.
MR. TERRY: Lots 13 and 14 plus the additional area which
would make this 190 feet. Originally when the map was filed
these lots were 125 x 100 and the Cornell house was put on
the corner. Lot ~13 is 125' x 100' This lot was owned byn
R. Rackett and subsequently it was bought by Beale.
THE CHAIH~LAN: It wound up by being a merger.
MR. TERRY: Yes, subsequently. This map was made prior to
the Zoning Ordinance. I think what happened was that 30 feet
was added to give this lot sufficient area so then this area
was attached to this (referring to map) to make a depth of
190 feet. That would give the lot 19,500 sq. ft. I believe
it was because they determined that this lot here was under-
sized. The thing was set up prior to zoning so the net result
was that they took Lot ~12 and took 30 feet off of it and added
it to those. So, there are three lots instead of four.
THE CHAIRMAN: It is similar to the surrounding area.
MR. TERRY: When Mr. Scileppi had the adjoining lot he
actually started construction and built a cellar here but I
believe it was all filled in. Then Mrs. Cornell bought a lot
and Mr. Cornell bought a lot and they had two lots of
100 foot frontage and 190 feet in depth. They ~ere surprised
to find since they were on separate tax bills that they were
on a merger of the lots. I would call your attention to the
fact that originally the area was set up with 100 foot frontage
and it was just these two lots that had 125 feet in depth. Now
these two would have a depth of 190 feet.
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THE CHAIRMAN: Now the owner wishes to divest herself
of one of the lots.
MR. TERRY: She would like to sell the easterly lot
separately.
THE CHAIRMAN: The majority of the lots in this area are
150' x 100', and the majority are built on. Either of these
lots will emerge larger than the 13 lots across the street.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
agai~s~ this application?
MR. WALTER K. BUTTERFIELD, Christopher Street: I would
like to submit a petition signed by 23 neighbors on Oakwood
Drive and Christopher Street asking the Board of Appeals to
deny this application. This is a crowded area; a lot of people
have had trouble with septic tanks in this area. It's a health
matter.
THE CHAIRMAN: That's a matter for the Board of Health.
We do not intrude on their prerogative.
The Chairman read the Petition, as follows:
"We, the undersigned, as taxpayers of the Town of
Southold, New York, petition the Southold Zoning
Board of Appeals, to deny an application for a
variance for permission to divide property with in-
sufficient width and area applied for by Cline W.
Cornell, Oakwood Hrive, Southold, New York, (R. G.
Terry, Jr., Attorney)."
The dates of the signatures are all within the last few
days and they are mostly residents of Oakwood Drive.
MR. TERRY: I think Mr. Butterfield is a resident of
Christopher Street.
(The Petition is filed in the Cline W. Cornell file).
THE CHAIRMAN: It's extremely difficult for the Board
to juStify denial on the basis of petitions of people who live
on lots that are smaller. Some, I presume, are exceptions.
It simply won't support denial by us in this type of situation.
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MR. BUTTERFIELD: May I ask about a previous va~.~e
that he had. It was denied but he did conduct business
in his home. He did want to do something with this other
land in connection with this business, and this was denied.
THE CHAIRMAN: I am not sure this would be relevant.
What was his business?
MR. BUTTERFIELD: Advertising.
THE CHAIRFkAN: There have been several unusual businesses,
one man makes false teeth. A lot of la~c;ers conduct business
from their homes. There are also seamstresses, millinery,
candy making, etc.
MR. BUTTERFIELD: I think this was in connection with
taxes. There was anOther person in the vicinity who applied
and he was turned down.
THE CHAIRMAN: It would be very simple to make a decision
on the basis of a popularity contest. For a long time we had
12~500 sq. ft. as a minimum size lot. Later it was increased
to 20,000 sq. ft, in subdivisions, not on our own volition but
because we were ordered to by the Board of Health. Then, in
1971 it was increased to 40,000 sq. ft. but this is not a
prairie in Kansas. The Ordinance is no stronger than its
weakest links and the weakest links are the areas with small
lots. We can't deny him on the basis that his lot is too
small.., the same thing is true with narrow streets.
MR. TERRY: It would appear that Mr. Butterfield's lot
would be smaller than 19,500 sq. ft., Dr[ McKucher's I believe is
98~' x 135'.
DR. VACCARRIELLO: His daughter lives in Texas and has
no interest in the area at all.
THE CHAIRMAN: This testimony ms interesting but irrevel-
ant.
MR. TERRY: I think the prospective purchaser would be
a good neighbor to all the people in the area. He comes
from an excellent neighborhood in the Garden City area and
I believe you would enjoy these people.
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
appliCant requests permission to divide property with in-
Sufficient width and area at Oakwood Drive and Christopher
Street, Southold, New York. The findings of the Board are
that the size of lots to be created by this division are in
excess of the majority of the lots in the area. The Board
agrees with the reasoning of the applicant.
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The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
would produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property
and in the same use district; and the variance will not change
the character of the neighborhood, and will observe the spirit
of the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded, by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED, Cline W. Cornell, Oakwood Drive, Southold, New
York, be GRANTED permission to divide property with insufficient
width and area at Oakwood Drive and Christopher Street, Southold,
New York, as applied for.
Vote of the Board: Ayes: Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Hulse,
Grigonis, Doyen. --
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2136 - ~0~05 P.M. (E.D.S.T.)
upon application of Franklin Born, Leeward Drive, Southold,
New York, (Gary F. Olsen, Esq.) for a variance in accordance
with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-30 and
Bulk Schedule & Section 280A Tewn Law for permission to construct
two dwellings on altered lots and for approval of access.
Location of property: Leeward Drive, Southold, Map of Leeward
Acres, Lots 29 and 30. Fee paid $15.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a variance, legal notice of hea~ing, ~ffid~vits a~testing
to its publication in the official new~papers, and notice
to the applicant. The Chairman also read letter from the
Town Clerk stating that notification by certified mail was made
to: Bruce Stasuik, Mr. and Mrs. Jos. Cio~te, Craig J. Wiederman,
Mahlon D. Dickerson.
THE C~AIRMAN: The application is accompanied by. a revised
survey of Young & Young indicating that the property fronts on
sq. ft. and the other will be 40,001 sq. ft.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
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May 20~ 1976
GARY FLANNER OLSEN, ESQ.: I am the attorney for the
applicant. Hardship is created by the position of my
client's ho~se which is rather large and is centered between
Lots 29 amd 130. Density would not be~.fR~eased. If this
were denied my client would be forced to ~ave a parcel of
over 80,000 ~sq. ft. which would be twice as large as others
in the subdivision. It Would just be a case of rearranging
lot lines; iH would be good for the eommuniHy; these are long
and narrow lots.
THE CHAIRMAN: I tried to discover why it was done and
I think iH was to save on roads. Then, it was thought it
would be too bad to have a house every 100 feet.
MR. ~OLSEN: This way they will have nice side yards.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
applicant requests permission to construct two dwellings on
altered lots and also requests approval of accessfor Lots 29
and 30, Map of Leeward Acres, Southold. The findings of the-
Board are that this proposal would improve the appearance
of the area and serve the community better. The Board agrees
with the reasoning of the applicant.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
would produce practical difficulties or unnecess~ary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would noH be ~shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property and
in the same use district; and the variance will not change the
character of the neighborhood, and will observe the spirit of
the Ordinance.
On motion by ~lr. Hulse, seconded by Mr. Bergen, it was
RESOLVED, Franklin Born, Leeward Drive, Southold, New York,
be GRANTED permission Ho construct two dwellings on alHered
lots and be GRANTED approval of access for Lots 29 amd-~30,
Map of Leeward Acres, Southold, New York, as applied for.~
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen,
Grigonis, Hulse, Doyen.
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May 20, 1976
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2137 - 10:20 P.M. (E.D.S.T.)
upon application of Margaret RUshmore, 2 Springhill Road,
Roslyn Heights, N. Y., (Gary F. Olsen, Att'y.), for a
variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article
III, Section 100-30 and Bulk Schedule for permission to
construct dwelling with insufficient setback. Location of
property: south end Dean Drive, Cutchogue, New York,
bounded on the north by J. Dean; east by Libel & Seaman;
south by Peconic Bay; west by Dean Drive and Downsview Sub.
Fee paid $15.00.
GARY OLSEN, ESQ.: I would like to propose that the
Chairman dispense with the reading of the application. I so
move.
THE CHAIRMAN: Does anyone here object to the motion
to waive the reading of the application and legal notice
regarding this application.
GARY OLSEN, ESQ.: As attorney for the applicant,
Margaret Rushmore, I have no objection.
On motion regularly made, and seconded by Mr. Hulse,
it was RESOLVED to dispense with the reading of the application
and legal notice. The vote was unanimous.
THE CHAIRMAN: The application is accompanied by a
photostat of the County Tax map. What is the size of the
plot?
MR. OLSEN: AJ~out an acre and three,quarters. The property
has been sold. It Was sold by James Dean; it's a described
parcel. ~s you can see from the architect!s disgram, the end of
Dean Drive is reflected here, it comes in on the west side of
the property. We would like to treat the Dean Drive side
as a side yard instead of a front yard. You will also notice
that the house is not completely parallel to the end of Dean
Drive and starts approximately two thirds of the way from
the northerly boundary of Dean Drive. They do have some cedar
trees on the easterly side of the property that they would
have to take out. It is in conformity with the community for
all practical purposes.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to
speak against this application?
(There was no response.)
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After investigation and inspection the Board finds
that applicant requests permission to construct dwelling
with insuffiCient setback on the south end of Dean Drive,
Cutchogue, New York. The findings of the Board are that
if applicant were required to locate the house fUrther to
the east an arbor of trees would have to be removed. The
Board agrees with the reasoning of the~applicant that this
variance will not change the character of the neighborhood.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
would produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
Properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property,~
and in the same use district; and the variance will not change-
the character of the neighborhood, and will observe the spirit
of the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Bergen, seconded by Mr. Hulser it was
RESOLVED, Margaret Rushmore, 2 Springhill Road, Roslyn
Heights, New York, (Gary F. Olsen Esq.,), be GRANTED permission
to construct dwelling with insufficient setback on the south
end of Dean Drive, Cutchogue, New York, as applied for, subject to
Suffolk County Planning Commission approval.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillisple, Bergen,
Grigonis, Hulse, Doyen.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2138 10:30 P.M. (E.D.S.T.)
upon application of Joseph & Claire Mossbruger, 149 Raymond St.,
Rockville Centre, N. Y. (Rudolph Bruer, Attorney) for a
variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III,
Section 100-30 and Bulk Schedule for permission to divide premises
with dwelling into two lots with insufficient width and area.
Location of property: west side Private Road; east side
Sound View Avenue; Southold, bounded on the north by V. D'Augusta;
east by Private Road; south by J. McCarvill & Ors.; west by
Manning - minor subdivision. Fee paid $15.00.
On a motion regularly made by Mr. Rudolph Bruer, seconded
by Mr. Doyen, it wa~ REsolVED, unanimously, ~O dispe~se with
the reading of the application and legal notice of hearing.
The Chairman read note dated May 10, 1976, received
from Mr. Vincent D'Augusta, as follows: "I have considered the
above request for a variance and oppose any division of said lot.
(Variance permission denied). As a working person I am unable to
attend the upcoming hearing. And appeal to the members of the
Board to act in my behalf in respecting my wishes. Any help in
this area will be greatly appreciated."
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May 20, 1976
THE CHAIRMAN: A photostat of the County Tax map shows
that subject 10t to be divided is 320' x 105' at one end, and
125' at the other.
MR. ~RUER: There was an additional piece added on
which would make the lots 125' (at one end) x 170,and 105'
(at one end) by 150' Across the street there are lots, 105'
x 105', 150' x 101', 102' x 102' Adjoining to the north
is a lot 103' x 105' on Sound View Avenue.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to
speak for this application?
RUDOLPH BRUER, ESQ.: I am the attorney for the
applicants. I believe the Board has pretty much covered
the situation as it exists. It has an existing house on it
and this would not change the character of the community.
Basically, the size of the lots in the area are similar in
many instances.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
against this application?
MR. JOHN McCARVILL: I own all the other property there
and I divided it into 150' x 100' lots. I have 290' on that
same property line here. My lot is ~22. I bought this property
25 to 30 years ago and I divided it up into 150' x 100' lots.
I have no objection.
THE CHAIRMAN: You have agreed with the applicant. Is
there anyone present who wishes to speak against this application?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds that
applicants wish to divide premises with dwelling into two lots
which will have insufficient width and area on the west side of
Private Road, east side of Sound View Avenue, Southold. The
findings of the Board are that the lots to be created will be
similar in size and in some cases larger than lots in the
area. The Board agrees with the reasoning of the applicant.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
would produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by
all properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property
and in the same use district; and the variance ~will not change
the character of the neighborhood, and will observe the spirit
of the Ordinance.
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May 20, 1976
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Doyen, it was
RESOLVED, Joseph & Claire Mossbruger, 149 Raymond Street,
Rockville Centre, No Y. (Rudolph Bruer, Attorney), be GRANTED
permission to divide premises with dwelling into two lots on
the west side of Private Road and the east side of Sound View
Avenue, Southold, New York, as applied for, subject to
Suffolk County Planning Commission approval.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen,
Grigonis, Hulse, Doyen.
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2139 - 10:40 P.M. (E.D.S.T.)
upon application of Alice T. Power, Driftwood Cove, Main Road,
Southold, New York (Rudolph Bruer, Attorney), for a variance
in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section
100-30 and Bulk Schedule for permission to dive premises with
dwelling into two lots with insufficient width and area. Location
of property: Private Road - Haywaters Road Ext., Cutchogue, Map of
Peconic Bay Prop., Lots 11 and 12 and Lots 24 and 25. Fee
paid $15.00.
On a motion regularly made by Rudolph Bruer, Esq., seconded
by Mr. Hulse, it was RESOLVED, unanimously~ to dispense with
the readfng of the application and legal notice of hearing.
THE CHAIR~N: The application is accompanied~by a sketch
of Peconic Bay Properties, Inc. Was this filed in 19317
RUDOLPH BRUER, ESQ.: Map ~786 was filed April 15, 1936.
This property is divided into 33 lots. Water is piped in~
THE CHAI~tAN: The proposal is to divide four lots into
tw~ and ~technically the two lots to the north of Haywaters Road
and the two'lots south of Haywaters Road will be combined.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to speak
for this application?
R~OLPH BRUER, ESQ.: I am the attorney for the applicant.
This is a private road. I have a map prepared in 1973 of the
northerly premises which shows it is very marshy. D.E.C.
would not allow anything to be built there. You will notice
there are names on adjoining lots indicating that they own
two lots but actually they only own one and a half lots. He
is bulkheaded, but you can't do that any more.
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THE CHAIRMAN: Was the lot No. 25?
MR. BRUER: Yes.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to
speak against this application?
(There was no response.)
After investigation and inspection the Board finds
that applicant requests permission to divide premises with
dwelling into two lots on Private Road - Haywaters Road Ext.,
Cutchogue, New York. The findings of the Board are that
subject property was originally laid out as four lots.
Applicant wishes to combine Lots 11 and 25, which have an
existing building thereon, and set off a new lot comprising
Lots 12 and 24 as a single building lot. The Board agrees
with the reasoning of the applicant.
The Board finds that strict application of the Ordinance
would produce practical difficulties or unnecessary hardship;
the hardship created is unique and would not be shared by all
properties alike in the immediate vicinity of this property
and in tke same use d±str±ct; and the variance will not change
the character of the neighborhood, and will observe the spirit
of the Ordinance.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Doyen, it was
RESOLVED, Alice T. Power, Driftwood Cove, Main Road,
Southold, New York, (Rudolph Bruer, Attorney), be GRANTED
permission to divide premises with dwelling into two lots,
(Lots 11 & 2~) and (Lots 12 & 24), Map of Peconic Bay Properties,
Inc., Private ROAD Haywaters Road Ext., Cutchogue, New York,
as applied for, subject to the following conditions:
1. That only Lots 11 and 12 may be used for residential
purposes.
e
That Lot 25 which is to be retained with Lot 11 may
be used for accessory purposes only (as permitted by
D.E.C.) .
e
That Lot 24 which is to be retained with Lot 12 may
be used for accessory purposes only (as permitted by
D.E.C.).
4. Subject to approval of Suffolk County Planning Commission.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen, Rulse,
Grigonis, Doyen.
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May 20, 1976
PUBLIC HEARING: Appeal No. 2141 - 10:50 P.M. (E.D.S.T.)
upon application of Douglas Case, Case's Place, Peconic Lane,
Southold, New York for a special exception in accordance with
the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-30 C (6) (F)
for permission to erect off-premises sign on the south side of
Main Road opposite Peconic Lane, Peconic, New York, bounded
on the north by Main Road; east by now or formerly C. Simon
Est.; south by A. Fiore & Ors.; west by T. Grattan & Ors.
Fee paid $15.00.
The Chairman opened the hearing by reading the application
for a special exception, legal notice of hearing, affidavits
attesting to its publication in the official newspapers,
and ~notice to the applicant. The Chairman also read letter
from the Town Clerk stating that notification had been made
by certified mail to: John A. Sepenoski, Briarcliff Sod Farm,
Queen Structure Corp.
THE CHAIRMAN: This type of sign is permitted because
it directs travelers to a place to sleep or eat.
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to
speak for this application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: Is there anyone present who wishes to
speak against this application?
(There was no response.)
THE CHAIRMAN: We will requ.ire permission from the property
owner for th£s use.
After investigation and insPection the Board finds that
applicant requeSts.permission to erect off-premises sign on
the south side Of Main Road opposite Peconic Lane, Peconic,
New iYork. ~iThe findings of th~ Board are that this sign
will direct travelers to a place to eat. The Board agrees with
~he'~the reasoning of the applicant.
The Board finds that the public convenience and welfare
and justice will be served and the legally established or
permitted use of neighborhoad propert~ and adjoining use
districts will not be permanently or substantially injured
and the spirit of the Ordinance will be observed.
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May 20, 1976
On motion by Mr. Hulse, seconded by Mr. Doyen, it was
RESOLVED, Douglas Case, Case's Place, Peconic Lane,
Peconic, New York, be GRANTED permission to erect off-premises
sign for the benefit of the traveling public on the south side
of Main Road opposite Peconic Lane, as applied for, subject
to the following conditions:
1. That applicant furnish the Board of Appeals with a
letter of permission from the owner of the property.
2. That sign shall be located no closer than 5 feet to
any property line.
3. This action of the Board is subject to S~ffolk County
Planning Commission approval.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:~ Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen,
Grigonis, Hulse, Doyen.
One (1) Sign Renewal was reviewed and approved as submitted.
On motion by Mr. Bergen, seconded by Mr. Gillispie, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set
8:00 P.M. (E.D.S.T.), Thursday, June 10, 1976, at the Town
Office, Main Road, Southold, New York as the time and place
of hearing upon application of Stephen F. Griffing, Jrl, Esq.
a/c Katherine B. Tuthill for a variance in accordance with
the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-30 and Bulk
Schedule, for permisSion to divide property with insufficient
width and area. Location of property: north side Albo Drive,
Laurel, New York, bounded on the north by now or formerly
Husing or Nature Conservancy; east by E, Marquardt; south by
Albo Drive; west by Allan Tuthill & Wf.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen,
Grigonis, Hulse, Doyen.
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On motion by Mr. Gillispie, seconded by Mr. Hulse, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set
8:10 P.M. (E.D.S.T.), Thursday, June 10, 1976, at the Town
Office, Main Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place
of hearing upon application of Raymond T. Goodwin, 83 Wilson
Street, East Rockaway, New York (William Wickham), attorney),
for a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance, Article
III, Section 100-30 and Bulk Schedule for permission to construct
dwelling with insufficient setback from Private Road. Location
of property: South side Peconic Bay Blvd. and Private Road,
Laurel, New York, bounded on the north by Peconic Bay Blvd.;
east by Private Road; south by right-of-way Private Road;
west by now or formerly Battenfietd.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen,
Grigonis, Hulse, Doyen.
On motion by Mr. Hulse, seconded by Mr. Grigonls, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of APpeals set
8:20 P.M. (E.D~S.T.), Thursday, June 10, 1976, at the Town
Office, Main Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place
of hearing upon application of Donald A. Arcurl, 60 East 4th
Street, Patchogue, N. Y. for a variance in accordance with
the Zoning Ordinance, Article III, Section 100-30 and 100-32
and Bulk Schedule for permission to construct accessory
building with insufficient side and rear yard setbacks.
Location of property: east side Lighthouse Road, Southold,
bounded on the north by Long Island Sound; east by Anderson;
south by Anderson; west by Lighthouse ROAD.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:- Messrs: Gillispie, Bergen,
Grigonis, Hulse, Doyen.
On motion by Mr. Grigonis, seconded by Mr. Doyen, it was
RESOLVED that the Southold Town Board of Appeals set
8:35 P.M. (E.D.S.T.), THursday, June 10, 1976, at the Town
Office, Main Road, Southold, New York, as the time and place
of hearing upon application of Orient Trucking & Construction
Co., Inc. a/c William Fuccillo, Sound Road, Greenport, New
York for a variance in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance,
Article III, Section 100~30C & Section 100-32 for permission
to construct private swimming pool in front yard area.
Location of property: Sound Road, Sound Drive, Sunset Lane,
Greenport, N. Y., bounded on the north by Sound Drive; east
by Sound Road; south by now~or formerly C. Jones; west by
Sunset Lane.
Vote of the Board: Ayes:-Gillispie Bergen, Grigonis., Hulse,
-v~en. · · '
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May 20, 1976
The meeting was adjourned at 11:50 P.M.
Respect~fully submitted,
Marjo~rie McDermott, Secretary
Robert W. Gillispie, Jr., Chairman