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OFFICE OF THE TOWN CLERK
SOUTHOLD TOWN BOARD
REGULAR MEETING
October 20, 2020
7:00 PM
A Regular Meeting of the Southold Town Board was held Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at the
Meeting Hall, Southold,NY.
Call to Order
7:00 PM Meeting called to order on October 20, 2020 at Meeting Hall, 53095 Route 25,
Southold,NY.
AtlEendee`Naiie Organiz' at ion ° ' Tit1e �:" aStatas .Arri pedv�
Sarah E_Na�pa Town of Southold Councilwoman Remote
James Dinizio Jr Town of Southold Councilman Remote
Jill Doherty Town of SoutholdCouncilwoman Present
wNRobert Ghosio Town of Southold , Councilman Present
Louisa P. Evans Town of Southold Justice Remote
Scott A. Russell i Town of Southold Supervisor Present
Elizabeth A.Neville Town of Southold Town Clerk Present
William M Duffy Town of Southold Town Attorney . Present
I. Reports
1. Department of Public Works Monthly Reports
2. Justice Court Reports
3. Trustees Monthly Report
II. Public Notice
III. Communications
IV. Discussion
1. Tax Cap Compliance
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2. EXECUTIVE SESSION - Proposed Acquisition, Sale or Lease of Real Property Where
Publicity Would Substantially Affect the Value Thereof
3. 9:00 AM- Janet Douglass and Lynn Nyilas (In-Person)
4. 9:15 AM - Lynn Nyilas (In-Person)
5. 9:30 AM -Denis Noncarrow (In-Person)
6. 9:45 AM-Kristie Hansen-Hightower(In-Person)
7. EXECUTIVE SESSION -Labor-Matters Involving the Employment of a Particular
Person(S)
8. EXECUTIVE SESSION-Labor-Matter Involving Collective Bargaining- CSEA
Contract
9. Executive Session - 11:30 AM -Leslie Weisman,Eric Dantes and Patricia Acampora
10. EXECUTIVE SESSION-Justice Evans
11. EXECUTIVE SESSION -Litigation
Opening Comments
Supervisor Russell
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Please rise for the Pledge. Thank you. I am going to offer anybody
that would like to comment on any of the specific agenda items to please feel free? I know we
have a public hearing in a little while, all of the comments with reference to that specific public
hearing will take place at that time. Right now it's only for discussion or comment or question on
any of the other agenda items.
MODERATOR: We do have one hand raised. Al Krupski.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: I will have a comment later, thank you.
MODERATOR: So with that,I do not have any hands raised or comments in the q and a.
COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: I would just like to make a statement on one of the resolutions.
Dear Supervisor Russell and members of the Town Board, Please accept my resignation as a
member of the Southold Justice Review and Reform Task Force. After attending two meetings,
it has become obvious to me that differences in management style between Supervisor Russell
and myself will only hinder the free flow of information that will be required for the Task Force
to accomplish it's difficult goals Governor Cuomo has mandated. Thank you for the honor and
regret that this is the only way that I can contribute to the important work of the Task Force.
James Dinizio.
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Would anybody else like to comment on any of the agenda items?
(No response)
V. Resolutions
2020-683
CATEGORY. Audit
DEPARTMENT. Town Clerk
Approve Audit
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby approves the audit dated
October 20 2020.
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0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain _Absent
❑ Tabled T _ __ __ _
❑ Withdrawn Sarah E Nappa Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dmizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter D ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ j ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P.Evans Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell �� Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ( ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2020-684
CATEGORY.• Set Meeting
DEPARTMENT. Town Clerk
Set Next Meeting
RESOLVED that the next Regular Town Board Meeting of the Southold Town Board be held,
Wednesday,November 4,2020 at the Southold Town Hall, Southold,New York at 7:00 P.
M.
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0 Adopted
El Ado ted as Amended Yes/Aye No
Abstain ( Absent
---- --------- --- --- -- - - -- -
❑ Defeated Sarah E Nappa Voter ❑ El ❑ ❑
❑ Tabled James Dmizio Jr Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ; ❑
❑ Withdrawn Jill Doherty ( Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P Evans 1 Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Scott A.Russell _Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt
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❑ Supt Hgwys Appt
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2020-685
CATEGORY.• Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT: Solid Waste Management District
2020 Budget Modification:SWMD
Financial Impact: This resolution corrects resolution 2020-675 which contained budget line errors, and
adds modification for lubricants.
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby rescinds Resolution# 2020-
675 in its entirety, and modifies the 2020 Solid Waste Management District budget as follows:
From
SR 8160.4.100.621 Maint/Supply 250 Pickup $ 400
SR 8160.4.100.650 Garbage Bags 500
SR 8160.4.100.800 Maint/Facilities-Grounds 2,000
SR 8160.4.200.100 Telephone 2,000
SR 8160.4.400.300 Public Information/Printing 2,500
SR 8160.4.400.625 Tire Repair 200
SR 8160.4.400.700 Copy Equipment Rental 100
SR 8160.4.400.841 Waste Oil Removal 1,300
SR 8160.4.450.200 Advertising 1,050
SR 8160.4.450.300 Informational Brochures 1,150
Total $11,200
To:
SR 8160.4.100.225 Lubricants $2,300
SR 8160.4.100.500 Motor Vehicle Glass 1,000
SR 8160.4.100.553 Maint/Supply Volvo #1 1,600
SR 8160.4.100.573 Maint/Supply Screening Plant 1,000
SR 8160.4.400.200 Building Maintenance 4,000
SR 8160.4.400.850 Refrigerant Removal 1,300
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-/'-Vote Record-,Resolution RES-2020-685�>
❑ Adopted
( Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
11 Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Sarah E Nappa Mover D ❑ ❑ El-
El
❑ Tabled James Dmizio Jr Voter EI ❑ ❑ I ❑
❑ Withdrawn Jill Doherty Voter D ❑ ❑ j ❑
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❑ Supervisor's Appt Robert Ghosio ( Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P.Evans Seconder El ❑ ❑ { ❑
❑ Rescinded Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2020-686
CATEGORY: Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT: Police Dept
2020 Budget Modification-Police Dept
Financial Impact:Reallocation offunds for the purchase of light bar for asset 95199
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2020 General
Town Whole Fund budget as follows:
From:
A.3120.2.500.875 Police/Equipment/Other Vehicle Equip $850
A.3120.2.500.775 Police/Equipment/Other Equip/In Car Video $865
Total $1,715
To:
A.3120.2.500.800 Police/Equipment/Other Equip/Light Bars $1,715
Total $1,715
V Vote Record-Resolution,RES-2020=686 "
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain ; Absent
❑ Tabled _
❑ Withdrawn Sarah E Nappa Voter 121 ❑ Eli El
-❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dimzio Jr Mover CEJ ❑ ❑ j ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty �� Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio 7 Voter 13 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter Rl ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell ( Voter Rl ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
s
2020-687
CATEGORY.• Bond
DEPARTMENT: Planning Board
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Accept Subdivision Bond Estimate- Colton Acres Standard Subdivision
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts Subdivision Bond
Estimate in the amount of$182,859.50 for the proposed Standard Subdivision entitled "Colton
Acres", SCTM#1000-38.-1-1.8, located on the south side of S.R. 25, +/-275' west of Gillette
Drive, East Marion, as recommended by the Southold Town Planning Board, subject to the
approval of the Town Attorney.
✓-Note Record=ResoWti6n RES-2020-687
El Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated - --—- - ----- -� ------------- - ---------- ------ -
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled - -- --- ------ ---- ---------
❑ Withdrawn Sarah E Nappa Voter EI ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dmizio Jr Voter 2 ❑ ❑ ❑
El Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Mover D ❑ ❑ ❑
D Robert Ghosio ( Seconder ❑ ❑
El Rescinded ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans { Voter D ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell j Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ( ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2020-688
CATEGORY. Committee Resignation
DEPARTMENT. Town Clerk
Justice Reivew&Reform Task Force Resignation
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the resignation of
Councilman James Dinizio, Jr. from the Justice Review and Reform Task Force effective
immediately.
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0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled ---- - -.-- —
❑ Withdrawn Sarah E Nappa Voter [a 11 ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dmizio Jr Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter RI ❑ ❑0 Rescinded ; ❑
Robert Ghosio f Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's ApptLouisa P Evans j Mover 10 ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell j Voter 0 ❑ ❑ j ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
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2020-689
CATEGORY.• Refund
DEPARTMENT.• Town Clerk
Refund Parking/Trailer Permits
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes a refund to the
following individual(s) for Parking/Disposal and/or Trailer Permits.
NAME Permit REFUND
Peter Dunn 2nd Disposal $35.00
520 Private Road#27 Res Parking
Southold,NY 11971
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0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated ---- - -- --- --- - - -
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled - - - - -- - -- -
❑ Withdrawn Sarah E Nappa Voter ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dimzio Jr ( Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ! ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Mover 0 ❑ ❑ j ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P.Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2020-690
CATEGORY.• Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT: Police Dept
2020 Budget Modification-Police Dept
Financial Impact:Insurance reimbursement for asset#4833
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2020 General
Fund Whole Town budlzet as follows:
Increase Revenues:
A.2680.00 Insurance Recoveries $3,077
Total $3,077
Increase Expenditures:
A.3120.2.500.775 Police/In-Car Video/Computer/Radio $3,077
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Total $3,077
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0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated ---- -------- ----- ----• ------- ------ ------ -------- --------
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled --- ----- - — --- - — ---
❑ Withdrawn Sarah E Nappa Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dmizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans ! Voter 0 ❑ ❑ 1 ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell ( Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2020-691
CATEGORY.• Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT. Town Clerk
2020 Budget Modification-Capital(Town Clerk)
Financial Impact: To establish 2020 Capital Budget Laserfiche RIO Licenses
10/20/20 A.1410..4.600.300 • Town Clerk Travel ($1,000.00)
10/20/20 A.1410.4.600.200 • Town Clerk Meetings ($2,000.00)
Total: ($3,000.00)
WHEREAS the Town Board of the Town of Southold adopted a 2020 Capital Budget which
includes an appropriation for a Laserfiche Licensing, and
WHEREAS the cost has since increased, and
WHEREAS the Town's Capital Budget process requires a resolution to formally establish and
amend Capital Budget items in the Capital Fund, now therefore be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
establishment of the following Capital Projects and amends the 2020 General Fund Whole
Town and Capital BudIzets as follows:
Capital Project Name: Laserfiche Licensing
Financing Method: Transfer from General Fund Whole Town
Budget: Revenues:
11.5031.10 Interfund Transfers,
Computer Applications $16,453.
Total $ 16,453.
Appropriations:
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H.1680.2.500.350 Central Data Processing
Equipment & Capital Outlay
Laserfiche Rio $16,453
Total $16,453
From
A,1410.4.600.200 Town Clerk
Miscellaneous
Meetings & Seminars $2,000
A.1410.4.600.300 Town Clerk
Miscellaneous
Travel Reimbursements $1,000.
Total $3,000.
To:
A.9901.9.000.100 Interfund Transfers,
Transfer to Capital
Total $3,000.
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0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated --— --- --
❑ Tabled --- ---
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
_ _
❑ Withdrawn Sarah E Nappa Voter D _ ❑ ❑ �� ❑
11Supervisor's Appt James Dimzio Jr Mover D ❑ ❑ ❑
11Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P.Evans Voter ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2020-692
CATEGORY.• Employment-Town
DEPARTMENT. Accounting
Approves a Leave of Absence Employee 95585
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby approves a leave of
absence to employee#5585 effective October 13,2020 through approximately January 4,
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Vote Record-Resolution'RES-20,20;692
0 Adopted j Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain i Absent
❑ Adopted as Amended Sarah E Nappa j Voter 0 ❑ ❑ j ❑
❑ Defeated James Dimzio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ! ❑
❑ Tabled Jill Doherty ; Mover 0 - ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Withdrawn Robert Ghosio Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ; ❑
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❑ Supervisor's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter El ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Scott A Russell Voter D ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded
❑ Town Clerk's Appt
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2020-693
CATEGORY.• Attend Seminar
DEPARTMENT. Police Dept
Police Department-Training Request
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to PO
William Andrejack, Sgt Scott Latham, and Det Steven Harned to attend the Realistic De-
Escalation Instructor Course to be held from December 10-11, 2020 at the Southampton
Town Police Department. Registration expenses to be a legal charge to the 2020 budget line
A.3120.4.600.200
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EI Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated — - - ------Y -- __ --- - - - -- —
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abbss tain Absent
❑ Tabled -- -- --- - ---
❑ Withdrawn Sarah E Nappa Voter CSI ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dmizio Jr ( Voter D ❑ ❑ ( ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty j Voter ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Seconder D ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans ( Mover CEJ ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ } ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2020-694
CATEGORY.- Public Service
DEPARTMENT: Town Clerk
Halloween Movie Night at Strawberry P ields Fy ttituck Lions Club
Financial Impact: Cost to Police Department =$98.76
RESOLVED the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to the Mattituck
Lions Club to use Strawberry Fields in Mattituck on Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 5:00 PM to
9:00 pm to hold a fund raiser Movie Night for Families provided:
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1. They file with the Town Clerk a One Million dollar Certificate of Insurance naming the
Town of Southold as additional insured;
2. They adhere to all conditions on the application and permit and to the Town of Southold
Policy for Special Events;
3. Permit is being approved subject to the applicant's compliance with all executive orders
of the State of New York;
4. Coordinate traffic control upon notification of the adoption of this resolution with
Captain Kruszeski to the Southold Town Police Department
All fees to be waived. Support is for this year only, as the Southold Town Board continues to
evaluate the use of town facilities.
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Q Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled —EJ
_
❑ Withdrawn Sarah Nappa j Voter R1 _ O�___ El � T
❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dmizio Jr ; Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Seconder Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio ( Mover Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans j Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2020-695
CATEGORY. Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT: Police Dept
2020 Budget Modification-Police Dept
Financial Impact:Reallocation of budgetary funds for the purchase of one (1) VHF and one (1) 800 radio
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2020 General
Fund Whole Town budget as follows:
From:
A.3120.2.500.600 Police/Other Equipment/Weapons $1,500
A.3120.2.500.625 Police/Other Equipment/Tasers $750
A.3120.2.500.300 Police/Other Equipment/Radar $1,000
A.3120.2.500.876 Police/Other EquipmentNeh Equip Install $619
Total $3,869
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To:
A.3120.2.500.400 Police/Other Equipment/Radio Equipment $3,869
Total $3,869
-/Vote Record-RdolutioirRES 2020-695
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated -- - ---- j -
! Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled --- --__. -----_----- -
❑ Withdrawn Sarah E Nappa Mover 21o O— 0
❑ Supervisor's Appt
James Dmizio Jr � Voter 0 ❑ ❑ j ❑
El Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ( El
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio ( Voter D ❑ ❑ j ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ i ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2020-696
CATEGORY. Employment-FIFD
DEPARTMENT. Accounting
Approve Resolution Number 2020-154
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby ratifies and approves
Resolution Number 2020-154 of the Fishers Island Ferry District adopted October 14, 2020
which reads as follows:
WHEREAS, the District wishes to thank Messrs. Cook and Murphy for their service this spring and
summer working under the conditions associated with the Covid-19 pandemic; and
Therefore it is resolved RESOLVED,that the Board of Commissioners of the Fishers Island Ferry District
reinstates Messrs. Cook and Murphy to their May 6, 2020 salaries (respectively($135,200 and
$98,047.25)with effect September 10, 2020.
✓Vote Record Resolution RES=2020-696
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated I Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain! Absent
---------- ------- ----- - - -
❑ Tabled Sarah E Nappa ; Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
11 raven ,lames Dmizio Jr 1 Mover
❑ Supervisor's Appt Jill Doherty ; Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Robert Ghosio Voter D ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Louisa P Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Scott A Russell 3 Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt -- - - - -—
❑ No Action
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❑ Lost
2020-697
CATEGORY. Misc.Public Hearing
DEPARTMENT: Town Clerk
Adopt Preliminary Budget&Set PH 11/4 4:00 Pm & 7:00 Pm - 2021 Budget Hearings
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold does hereby prepare and approve as
the Preliminary Budget of the Town of Southold for the fiscal year beginning on the 1St day of
January 2021, the itemized statement of estimated revenues and expenditures hereby attached
and made part of this resolution, and be it
FURTHER RESOLVED that this Town board shall meet at 4:00 PM,Wednesday, on the 411
of November, 2020, at the Southold Town Hall for the purpose of holding a public hearing on
the 2021 Preliminary Budget, and after all persons attending said hearing shall have had an
opportunity to be heard in favor or against the 2021 Preliminary Budget as compiled, or for or
against any item and items therein contained,that said hearing be then recessed and thereafter
convened at 7:00 PM on said day for the same purpose; and be it
FURTHER RESOLVED that the Preliminary Budget will be available for viewing on the
Southold Town official website: www.southoldtownny.gov, and be it
FURTHER RESOLVED that the Town Clerk shall give notice of such hearings in the manner
provided for in Section 108 of the Town Law and that such notice be published in substantially
the following form:
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
ON THE 2021 PRELIMINARY BUDGET
AND
2021 PRELIMINARY CAPITAL BUDGET
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the Preliminary Budget and Preliminary Capital Budget of
the Town of Southold, Suffolk County,New York for the fiscal year beginning on January 1,
2021 has been prepared and approved by the Southold Town Board and filed in the Office of the
Town Clerk at the Southold Town Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold,New York, where they are
available for inspection and where copies may be obtained by any interested person during
business hours.
FURTHER NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN, that the Town Board of the Town of Southold will
meet and review said 2021 Preliminary Budget and 2021 Preliminary Capital Budget and hold a
public hearing thereon at the Southold Town Hall, 53095 Main Road, Southold,New York, in
said Town at 4:00 p.m. and at 7:00 p.m., on Wednesday, November 4, 2020, and at such
hearing any persons may be heard in favor of or against the 2021 Preliminary Budget and 2021
Preliminary Capital Budget as compiled, or for or against any item or items therein contained.
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FURTHER NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that pursuant to Section 108 of the Town Law, the
following are proposed yearly salaries of members of the Town Board, the Town Clerk, the
Superintendent of Highways, Tax Receiver, Assessors, and Trustees:
SCHEDULE OF SALARIES OF ELECTED OFFICIALS
(ARTICLE 8 OF TOWN LAW)
Officer
Supervisor $ 114,154
Members of the Town Board (4) @ 37,598
Town Justice and Member of the Town Board, Fishers Island 57,334
Town Justices (2) @ 76,908
Town Clerk 109,994
Superintendent of Highways 114,154
Tax Receiver 42,917
Assessors (3) @ 82,215
Trustees (5) 20,762
✓Vote Record.Resolution RES-2020-'697, �= -
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ DefeatedYes/Aye No/Nay� Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ withdrawn Sarah E Nappa Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
El Supervisor's Appt James Dmizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ El
El Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Mover 0 ❑ E] ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ; ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter 0 ❑ ❑ j ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ j ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2020-698
CATEGORY. Organizational
DEPARTMENT.• Town Clerk
Revised Records Retention Schedules NYS Archives
RESOLVED the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby ADOPTS the Revised Retention and
Disposition Schedule for New York Local Government Records, issued pursuant to Article 57-A of
the Arts and Cultural Affairs Law, and containing legal minimum retention periods for local
government records, is hereby adopted for use by all officers in legally disposing of valueless records
listed therein.
FURTHER RESOLVED,that in accordance with Article 57-A:
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a) only those records will be disposed of that are described in Retention and Disposition
Schedule for New York Local Government Records after they have met the minimum
retention periods described therein;
b) only those records will be disposed of that do not have sufficient administrative, fiscal, legal,
or historical value to merit retention beyond established legal minimum periods.
✓°Vote Recorih Res6lution RES-2020-698 -
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated ---- _-- ( --
❑ Tabled —�--
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
— --- - - - -- ---- --
❑ Withdrawn Sarah E Nappa Voter , 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dmizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter 0 ❑ ❑ 1 ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter D ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2020-699
CATEGORY.• Employment-Town
DEPARTMENT.• Accounting
Amend Resolution Number 2020-681
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby amends Resolution Number
2020-681 to read as follows:
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Thomas Griffin to
the position of Automotive Mechanic III for the Highway Department, effective November 16,
2020, at a rate of$28.3256 per hour subject to pre-employment DOT testing requirements and
background search completion.
Vote Record=.Resolution RES-2020-699 '
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated - ---------- - - -- - - - -------- --- ------ - - -
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled — - — -- - --- - - ---
❑ Withdrawn Sarah E Nappa Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt- .lames Dmizio Jr Voter D ❑ ❑ a ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Dohertv Voter D ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Mover 0 ❑ ❑ 1 ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ j ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
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2020-700
CATEGORY.• Special Events
DEPARTMENT. Town Clerk
Denial of Special Events
WHEREAS on October 5, 2020, Osprey's Dominion Vineyards, 44075 Main Road, Peconic,NY
filed an application identified as OD 2 A-E, for special event permit for five (5) separate events
to be held on October 10, 11, 17, 18, and 24, 2020 at Osprey's Dominion Vineyards, 44075 Main
Road, Peconic,NY, now therefor be it
RESOLVED the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby DENIES the special event
application identified as OD 2 A-E,by Osprey's Dominion Vineyards pursuant to Section 205-6
of the Town Code of the Town of Southold.
✓Vote Record;-Resolution RES-2020-700. �_;'>"
❑ Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended - —--- - - - — - ---
Yes/Aye � No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Defeated
❑ Tabled Sarah E Nappa ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Withdrawn James Dtnizto Jr ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑
Supervisor's Appt --�— ---- ---- _
❑ ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Jill Doherty
Tax Receiver's Appt —
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio ( ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt ---
Scott A Russell -- ❑ _ ❑ ❑
0 No Action _
❑ Lost
2020-701
CATEGORY. Refund
DEPARTMENT. Town Clerk
Refund Special Event Fee/Late Fee- Osprey
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes a refund in the
am-ount-of 5400 00 to (finrP�nmininn ViDeVarcls, T.TT) fnr a Spthat was
disapproved.
,"Vote Record-Resolution RES-2020-701`
❑ Adopted 1 Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Adopted as Amended Sarah E Nappa Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Defeated James Dmizio Jr Mover 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
0 Tabled Jill Doherty j voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
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❑ Withdrawn RobertGhosio ( Voter Q ❑ ❑ j ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Scott A Russell Voter Q ❑ ❑ j ❑
❑ Rescinded
❑ Town Clerk's Appt
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
Next:11/4/20 7:00 PM
Comment regarding resolution 701
TOWN ATTORNEY DUFFY: My advice would be since there is no action on the previous
resolution we still have a pending_application so I would move to table this resolution.
2020-702
CATEGORY. Special Events
DEPARTMENT. Town Clerk
Special Events Permit CAST 2020-16
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants permission to the
Community Action Southold Town (CAST) to hold a Special Event 2020-16 at the property
owned by Peter Treiber, Sr, 38320 County Road 48, Peconic,NY as applied for in Application
CAST Ia-c for events to be held 12/4 from 5:00 pm and 8:00 pm, 12/5/20 and 12/6/20 from 10:00
AM to 5:00 PM, provided they adhere to all conditions on the application and permit and to the
Town of Southold Policy for Special Events and subject to the applicant's compliance with all
executive orders of the State of New York. This permit is subject to revocation if the applicant
fails to comply with any of the conditions of the approval or is unable to properly control traffic
flow into and out of the event.
✓,Vote Record-Resolution RES-2020-'702
Q Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated --- ------ -7 — -- -- --
❑ Tabled
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
—_
❑ Withdrawn Sarah E Nappa Voter Q ❑ ❑�— ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt
.lames Dmizio Jr '� Voter Q ❑ ❑ i ❑
11 Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Mover Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder Q ❑ ❑ ❑
El Supt-Hgxvys.�pp Coll-A__Russell I voter 171 Il Fl Fl
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2020-703
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CATEGORY.• Contracts, Lease&Agreements
DEPARTMENT: Town Clerk
NYS DEC License Issuing Agent Agreement
Financial Impact:Issuing Agreement
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes and directs Town
Clerk Elizabeth A. Neville to execute a License Issuing Agent agreement with the New York
State Department of Environmental Conservation in connection with the issuance of hunting and
fishing licenses, all in accordance with the approval of the Town Attorney.
✓Vote Record=Resolution RE5,=2020=703 ' �=
Q Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated i Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent—
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❑ Tabled - - - -- ----j - ---
❑ Withdrawn Sarah E Nappa Voter Q ❑ 11 ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dimzio Jr Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Seconder Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Mover Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2020-704
CATEGORY. Employment- Town
DEPARTMENT: Accounting
Appoint Edward JMichaelis Jr. Maintenance Mechanic III
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby appoints Edward J.
Michaelis Jr. to the position of a Maintenance Mechanic III for the Highway Department,
effective October 22, 2020, at a rate of$32.8703 per hour.
✓Vote'Record--Resolution RES;-1020404
Q Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated — --- - - - -- -- --
❑ Tabled
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain �- Absent
- - - - --
❑ Withdrawn Sarah E Nappa Voter Q ❑ ❑ ; ❑
❑ Supervisor's_Apt_ James Dinizio Jr Voter Q ❑ ❑ i ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt .till Doherty j Seconder Q ❑ ❑ ( ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Mover Q ❑ ❑ ? ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell j Voter Q ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
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2020-705
CATEGORY. Ratify Fishers Island Reso.
DEPARTMENT.• Fishers Island Ferry District
FIFD 9/28/20 Meeting Resolution Ratifications
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby ratifies and approves the
resolutions of the Fishers Island Ferry District Board of Commissioners dated September 28,
2020, as follows:
FIFD
Resolution# Regarding
2020 - 165 Legal
2020 - 166 Settlement
✓,Vote Record=Resoln'tion RES-2020.705 3 °l�
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated — ---- — i -- ---- — —- — -
❑ Tabled Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain I Absent--
❑ Withdrawn Sarah E Nappa Mover D El ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dimzio Jr i Seconder Ef ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty i Voter lZ ❑ El El
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P.Evans Voter lZ ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ( ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2020-706
CATEGORY.• Ratify Fishers Island Reso.
DEPARTMENT.- Fishers Island Ferry District
FIFD 10/13/20 Meeting Resolution Ratifications
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby ratifies and approves the
resolutions of the Fishers Island Ferry District Board of Commissioners dated October 13, 2020,
as follows:
FIFD
Resolution# Regarding
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2020 - 149 Budget Mod
2020 - 151 2021 Budget Mod
2020 - 152 Property Mgmt
2020 - 153 Le al
✓YoteRecurd,�;3icsdlution R) -2020=?06 ' �; , ,_ ....�« „
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated ----- - ---- -- -( ------ ---- -- ------ -------- --------- -- - ---
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled — --- ---
❑ Withdrawn Sarah E Nappa Voter 0 ❑ ❑ { ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dmizio Jr Mover El ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Voter IZI ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio { Voter El ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Seconder 9 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ { ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2020-707
CATEGORY.• Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT:. Accounting
2020 Budget Modification-Capital(Drainage)
Financial Impact: To establish Capital Budget-Stornzwater Mitigation
WHEREAS the Town Board of the Town of Southold adopted a 2020 Capital Budget which
includes an appropriation for a Stormwater Mitigation, and
WHEREAS the Town's Capital Budget process requires a resolution to formally establish and
amend Capital Budget items in the Capital Fund,now therefore be it
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes the
establishment of the followin;; Capital Project and amends the Capital BudIzet as follows:
Capital Project Name- Storrawater Miti��l_9n
Financing Method: Serial Bonds
Budget: Revenues:
H.5710.32 Serial Bonds,
Stormwater Mitigation $250,000
Total $250,000
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Appropriations:
H.8540.2.100.250 Drainage, Capital Outlay
Stormwater Mitigation Proj $250,000
Total $250,000
✓.Vote Record=Resolution RES-2020-707
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0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated ------ - -- ----- -- -- - -- — - —
Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled - - ------------- - ----- - --- ----
❑ Withdrawn Sarah E.Nappa Voter 2✓1 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dinizio Jr Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Mover 2 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosm Seconder Rl ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter EI ❑ ❑ j ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A.Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2020-708
CATEGORY. Budget Modification
DEPARTMENT. Accounting
2020 Budget Modification - Town Clerk
Financial Impact: Transfer funds for eminent domain and bond authorization public notices
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby modifies the 2020 General
Fund Whole Town budget as follows:
From:
A.1990.4.100.100 Unallocated Contingencies $6,000
Total $6,000
To:
A.1410.4.600.100 Town Clerk, Legal Notices $6,000
Total $6,000
✓Vote Record-Resolution RES-2020-708
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain i Absent
-LIDe ea a Sarah E Nappa I Voter ILl
❑ Tabled James Dm1ZIO Jr Voter R ❑ ❑ 1 ❑
❑ Withdrawn Jill Doherty 1 Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supervisor's Appt Robert Ghosio ; Voter D ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Louisa P Evans Mover D ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Rescinded Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
I.El Town Clerk's Appt
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❑ Supt Hgwys Appt
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2020-709
CATEGORY.• Bid Acceptance
DEPARTMENT.• Town Clerk
Accept Bids of Grade A. Petroleum Corp for Lubricants and Fluids
Financial Impact:Lubricant bid
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby accepts the bid of Grade A
Petroleum Corporation to supply the Town with additional lubricants and fluids for the term of
one (1) full year after the bid was awarded, as submitted in the bid and all in accordance with the
Town Attorney.
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�VoteRecord;-Resolution RES»2020=710��x•> �?>��- ,���" •w - � �'„
171 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
❑ Withdrawn Sarah E Nappa Mover _�-___ ___�______ _❑_�__r __O___
❑ Supervisor's Appt James Dimzio Jr ! Voter ❑ ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty 7 Seconder ❑ ❑ El El
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter R) ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ( ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2020-711
CATEGORY. Legal
DEPARTMENT: Town Attorney
Dredging Application-Robins Island
RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby authorizes Robin Island Holdings
LLC, c/o Belvedere Property Management, 11 Times Square, 37"Floor,NY,NY 10036 to make an
emergency dredging application to the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation for
emergency dredging on lands identified on the Suffolk County Tax Map as lots 1000-117-8-20 &21.
.✓°VofeRecord ResolutionRES-2020-717
0 Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated - -- - - - - - -
I Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain ( Absent
❑ Tabled
El Withdrawn Sarah E Nappa j Voter ❑ ❑ ❑
11 Supervisor's Appt James Dmizio Jr f Mover M ❑ ❑ ( ❑
11 Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Seconder 0 ❑ ❑ i ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio { Voter M ❑ ❑ ❑
❑ Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans Voter- Z ❑ ❑ ❑
ElSupt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter Q ❑ ❑ 1 ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
2020-712
CATEGORY.• Employment-Town
DEPARTMENT: Accounting
Approval Transfer of Ordinance Inspector Arthur Bloom
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RESOLVED that the Town Board of the Town of Southold hereby grants approval to transfer
Arthur Bloom, Ordinance Inspector, from the Town of Shelter Island's employ to the Town of
Southold's employ, at a salary of$60,066.71 effective October 22, 2020.
WmtcRecord�ResolutibnRE20207a2;
El Adopted
❑ Adopted as Amended
❑ Defeated _ Yes/Aye No/Nay Abstain Absent
❑ Tabled
Sarah E Nappa Voter 0 ❑ ❑ ( ❑
❑ Withdrawn -James D --
❑ Supervisor's Appt m�zio Jr Voter 0 El ___1T
I ❑
11 Tax Receiver's Appt Jill Doherty Mover D 11 11 ❑
❑ Rescinded Robert Ghosio Seconder El ❑ ❑ ��
11 Town Clerk's Appt Louisa P Evans 1 Voter 0 El ❑ ❑
❑ Supt Hgwys Appt Scott A Russell Voter 0 ❑
❑ No Action
❑ Lost
VI. Public Hearings
This Public Hearing was declared closed at 8:38 PM
1. PH 10/20 7:30 PM NF Community Club LLC/Change of Zone
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the Town Board of the Town
of Southold is considering the change of zone to amend the Zoning Map of the Town of
Southold by changing the Zoning District designation of SCTM#1000-102-2-5 from Residential
Low-Density (R-80)to Affordable Housing District (AHD); and
NOTICE IS HEREBY FURTHER GIVEN that pursuant to the requirements of Section 265 of
the New York State Town Law and the Code of the Town of Southold, Suffolk County,New
York,the Town Board of the Town of Southold will hold a public hearing on a proposed
Local Law entitled "A Local Law to amend the Zoning Map of the Town of Southold by
Changing the Zoning Designation of SCTM#1000-102-2-5 from Residential Low-Density
(R-80) to Affordable Housing District (AHD)" at Southold Town Hall, 53095 Main Road,
Southold,New York, on the 20th day of October, 2020 at 7:00 p.m.. The purpose of this
Local Law is to change the Zoning District Designation of SCTM#1000-102-2-5 from
Residential Low-Density (R-80)to Affordable Housing District (AHD). The petitioner for this
request is North Fork Community Club LLC n/k/a 2050 Depot Lane, LLC. The property is
approximately 2.08 acres (90,804 sq. ft.) and is located at 2050 Depot Lane, Cutchogue,New
York.
Due to public health and safety concerns related to COVID-19, the Public will not be given
in-person access. In accordance with the Governor's Executive Order 202.1, said public
hearing of the Town Board will be held via videoconferencing, and a transcript will be
provided at a later date. The public will have an opportunity to see and hear the meeting
live and provide comments virtually.
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The hearing will be held virtually via ZOOM Webinar. Instructions and link to attend the
meeting will be available on the Town's website or by calling the Town Clerk's office at
(631)765-1800. A telephone number will also be provided to allow members of the public to
attend via telephone.
Written comments and/or questions may also be submitted via email to the Town Clerk at
elizabeth.neville@town.southold.ny.us. Said comments and/or questions will be considered at
the public hearing provided that they are submitted no later than 12:00 P.M. (Prevailing Time)
on the day of the public hearing.
Pursuant to the requirements of the Executive Order of the Governor of the State of New York, a
transcript will be prepared of the public hearing, and a copy shall be filed with the Town Clerk
and placed upon the Town's website.
Please check the meeting Agenda posted on the Town's website (www.southoldtownny.gov) for
further instructions or for any changes to the instructions to access the public hearing, and for
updated information.
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: I have a notarized affidavit that this was posted in the Suffolk
Times. Also on the Town Clerk's website and bulletin board, on the Suffolk county Department
of Development and Planning, they are considering this to be a matter of local determination
since there is no apparent significant county-wide or inter-community impacts. From the Town
of Southold Housing Advisory Commission, Dear Supervisor Russell and members of the
Southold Town Council, The Housing Advisory Commission met on July 91h and August 6th and
heard presentations on the proposed affordable housing project and approval of an affordable
housing district for a parcel located at 2050 Depot Lane in Cutchogue. At the August 6th
meeting, the applicant Mr. William Goggins appeared via Zoom and presented the application.
The Affordable Housing Advisory Commission recommends the Southold Town Board approves
the proposed affordable housing district. The parcel proposed meets the criteria in the Southold
Town code and the proposed Southold Town Comprehensive plan. Affordable housing is
needed in the hamlet of Cutchogue and these 16 units will be a benefit to the community. The
development of affordable housing is a public need and the applicant is not applying for any
government grants. In addition to recommending the approval of the affordable housing district,
the Affordable Housing Advisory Commission recommends the Town Board waive the towns
fee for the sanitary flow credits that the applicant is applying to be transferred to his property, as
well as any building department or planning board application fees which may apply.' And from
the Town's Planning Department, there is a report and analysis of the project, the last section is
a recommendation. `To address the critical need for affordable housing in 2012 and again 2017,
two separate requests for proposals for affordable housing projects were released by the Town
Board to solicit projects from developers. The RFP's received no responses. To create
a e__housing-to-meet-tlie_needs_of_residentsTa-compromise-on-w-hp-re_to_locate_affardahle
housing in town must be realized. The AHD zone was designed to be applied to parcels town-
wide based upon their characteristics and ability to meet sound planning principals while
weighing the need for housing. The towns historical buildout in changing economics and
demographics have added a greater level of difficulty in achieving the towns affordable housing
goals. The proposed change of zone of the parcel to the AHD zoning district is supported for the
following reasons: A. provides opportunities for attainable affordable housing for residents
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meeting town goals as identified in the land use and housing chapters in the draft Town of
Southold comprehensive plan. B. The proposed adaptive reuse of the existing structure and
infrastructure. C. Meets the Planning Boards goal of dispersing affordable housing units
throughout the town. (Inaudible) the affordable housing project has not been constructed in the
hamlet of Cutchogue. D. Achieves the ability to access commercial centers and uses public
transportation, public schools, post office and other amenities. E. Would provide the
opportunity to construct work force housing near a commercial center. Please contact the
Planning Department with any other questions. I do have a couple of letters of opposition in the
file and one is a petition of almost 200 signatures.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I want to assure everyone that has written in to express their
opposition or support, that is part of the record of the town. The Town Board does read every
one of them and weigh those within the decision making that each of us has. It is unfortunately
impractical to read what is probably a couple of dozen letters of opposition. But I assure you it
is part of the public record.
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: That is all I have.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay, I would invite anyone that would like to comment to please
feel free?
COUNCILMAN DINIZIO: I am going to recuse myself from this application as I have some
conflicts here. So I am going to sign off.
BRUCE BROWNAWELL: This is Bruce Brownawell and my wife Anne McElroy is here and
we moved to Cutchogue on Depot Lane in 2018 and bought our dream home, it's also a bed and
breakfast and it's not a major complaint that you should consider but we paid a premium for this
property, knowing about the two acre minimum zoning and I don't think we would have paid
that premium if we had known that some of the character that our guests enjoy might be
threatened by higher density. But my primary comments here are related to my expertise and
that is related to groundwater contamination and we sent a letter back in March to Heather Lanza
about some of our concerns and then last week we sent a detailed letter to the Board members
with more detailed concerns focusing on groundwater issues that were related to different that I
think the town should be thinking about not only for this proposal but for other proposals going
forward that involve high density housing and anyways, my own background very briefly is that
I am an environmental chemist, this is my 32 year at Stony Brook University, taught for many
years on Long Island groundwater issues, right now I am a member of the (inaudible) at Stony
Brook, we are working on innovative on-site waste water treatments systems and testing them
and so I do have some background in this area, I have been in contact with the Health
Department groun wa er nitrogen issues late y as we Ias eirh maitheir long term
modeler (inaudible) and did all of the state of the art monitoring for the sub water shed
wastewater program and this is, anyway but the two issues I want to talk about is with this
concentrated septic plume, we should be worried about downstream wells and I was kind of
surprised today when I looked on the web and saw that there is almost 6600 private wells in the
Town of Southold. I don't know how many of those people also are on public water but that is a
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lot of wells considering we only have 22,000 people and there are some areas where people
should be on public water with a lot of sewage stress. Right now we are in a low priority zone
according to the models in terms of the levels of nitrogen in this area around Depot Lane and so
anyways, I believe the groundwater divide is a little bit north, I am pretty confident of this, is a
little north of the Knights of Columbus hall and so the flow would be toward the south and the
properties that are immediately downstream are on private wells and well off the street, so there
is not a non-trivial cost if they were to upgrade to public water, (inaudible) but I think that's
something that I think the town should be working on in terms of water impacts that are
occurring in terms of private wells. But a bigger issue I think in terms of economic impact and
the number of people it impacts for the town is the county's need and desire to manage nitrogen
groundwaters to protect our surface waters, our tributaries, our bays including Peconic Bay
because nitrogen is causing a lot of eco-system (inaudible). The primary source of that nitrogen
is from groundwater and now after many years of agriculture being dominant on the north fork,
septic systems and cesspools are the primary source of nitrogen to our groundwaters and the
designated, modeling of the number of priority one zones that have some requirements, I am not
an expert on where it all gets applied in terms of new construction or upgrades in terms of going
to innovative alternative wastewater systems that,are about $20,000 not including maintenance
costs for individuals but the plan for the town is to take all the priority one zones for about 300
households or so and upgrade them over the next 35 years. And that is a big cost for a
community, I don't think we should be thinking twice because we can't take it back in terms of
contaminating groundwaters and expanding areas of high priority zones (inaudible) both
property value and operating costs and capital costs that would be too much for the town and the
county to pay for it probably. Anyways, I have- a few other points, one of my biggest
recommendations is not to vote on this matter until you get the help from experts from the
county, from people like Timothy (inaudible) and Walter (inaudible) that know both the science,
the model results and they can help you in terms of posing the right questions in terms of where
you site what types of developments and what impacts it would have so you can be better off in
decision making and there is a state of the art model ready to be run, simple simulations that
would be cost effective if you can ask the model the right questions and that's a big concern.
The few other comments that I would make, those are really my main comments, I would refer
you to my letter. One thing I would say about these, there seems to be some confusion from
some town members that I have talked to is about how good these alternative wastewater
treatment systems are, they are really designed to reduce nitrogen loads and nothing else, they
take nitrogen from about 650 grams of nitrogen per liter right down to 19 that's the requirement.
If you compare that to what comes out the Riverhead plant or the Bayport plant, those are more
like 2 milligrams of nitrogen per liter or less. So these are not particularly good systems even for
nitrogen and they are not designed to take out other contaminants, so yes we have some
improvement in terms of protecting the bay if we are going to these expensive systems but they
are not doing a wonderful, perfect job of protecting our wells or even protecting our water from
nitrate for that matter. And I will leave it at that and I thank you for your attention. I encourage
you to read our letter and if you wanted me or I really encourage you to contact the county health
department for help on this going forward because these are really big decisions. I think in terms
of, because you can't take back where we put our high density developments and personally I
would consider putting them in already existing stressed priority zones is where I would suggest
it but I would understand disagreements on that issue. Thank you.
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you. I also want to thank you, I did read through the letter
and I want to thank you for the very detailed explanation of the science here. Thank you.
CHRISTINA URWAND: Thank you. I am just on here, I just want to let you know I was born
on Evergreen Drive which is right off of Depot Lane in a small cul-de-sac community, so went to
the local schools, know the area very well. After college I did move into the city for a better job
opportunity, since COVID happening me and my fiance moved back in with my parents back in
that same house on Evergreen Drive off Depot Lane, spent the past nine months there, are
currently relocated to Florida just because we spent the spring and summer looking for housing
in Cutchogue where we could walk to a lot of the amenities we needed not having a car after
moving out of Manhattan, not being able to buy a car with COVID and it was very difficult, we
didn't find anything. So reading the article in the Suffolk Times about this possible development
opportunity, I do work in commercial real estate, I read the crisis in alignment to the salaries....
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I am sorry we lost you...
MODERATOR: Let's give it a minute to see if Christina's audio comes back. Okay, I am going
to see if I can let Christina know we lost her audio. Okay, it does not, okay, Christina, I am
going to bring you in to talk once more.
MS. URWAND: Sorry, where did I get cut off?
MODERATOR: I don't remember the exact word...
MS. URWAND: Just the point being that both my brothers also submitted applications and we
hope to all apply and see this come to fruition in the near future for all of us young, aspiring
professionals trying to move back to our community that we grew up in and loved and would
like to start our own families and I think this is just the ideal way to do it, so you have my full
support,thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Christina, can we have your last name for the public record?
MS. URWAND: Of course, Urwand.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you.
MICHAEL MALKUSH: You did a pretty good job, but anyway, I want to thank all of you for
listening to us tonight and I feel the issue tonight is not about affordable housing. I really agree
with Christina and I feel bad, I have family, I have friends, I want them to find a place. The
issue tonight though is about zoning. Okay. -Allordable housmg is e mite y needed in Southold
Town, it is very important. But changing residential zoning to high density is an issue and I
really believe it's wrong and it's irresponsible if any of you vote for it. My wife Carol and I, we
moved out here 18 years ago. We live on Depot Lane. At that time, the zoning, and this was a
big, big issue with the Town Board, the zoning was 2 acres. We were, you know and I really
think the town back then was looking to preserve the rural character of this beautiful town. All
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the surrounding houses surrounding us where all built on two acres. The Knights of Columbus
property is also on two acres and it's also residential. The zoning was in place for a reason. I
believe I read on the Southold Town website that zoning prevents new development from hurting
existing residences. The plan a developer recently presented at a town board'work session and I
watched it, and he started 22 minutes into it and I watched the whole thing, I was very
concerned, is to build 16 two bedroom apartments on about two acres. That would include
enlarging the footprint and adding a second story to the existing Knights of Columbus building.
It would also include building a second, separate apartment building on the property. To build a
project of this magnitude is unacceptable and incompatible with the existing homes int eh area.
Again, I am not opposed to affordable housing, I am opposed to changing the zoning to build
high density housing in a residential community. And I feel very strongly about that and that is
what you are really voting on tonight, you are not voting about affordable housing. There are
currently many vacant buildings and there's a lot of property within the existing halo zone of
Cutchogue that can be used. Remember when halo zones where important to you guys? I have
five points and I just have to look at my notes for this one, that was my introduction by the way.
Okay, these five points I think are very important, I gave it a lot of thought by the way, I wrote a
letter to Heather Lanza also back in March opposing this. I didn't even hear back from anybody
but that's another issue. Okay, number one, over building, Harvest Pointe, okay, the 124 unit
development in Cutchogue is about 50% complete, now another 16 bedroom apartments? It's
too much. We have already seen tremendous increase in traffic and have many concerns, I
remember, I was in town hall many times opposing Harvest Pointe and I remember you guys
talking about affordable housing in Harvest Pointe and it never panned out, okay, and I don't
know why, I heard that they paid the penalty and the town got a lot of money and they were able
to do it whatever, that's another issue. But anyway, you know we were led to believe back then
that there was going to be affordable housing and take care of that need in Cutchogue and it
didn't work out. Okay, but anyway, second point I have is that Depot Lane is a dangerous road
and a lot of people don't realize that, they look at it, it's a nice straight little road and I moved on
it because I love Depot Lane, we have everything from the Red Rooster restaurant to the bed and
breakfast Bruce talked about before, we have houses, we have a beautiful community even
though people don't believe it, we have a church, we have a cemetery, there's just a lot of
wonderful things that are here but this whole apartment complex, it just doesn't fit in. But
anyway, I am saying it's a dangerous road, it's a straight mile from the Main Road to Route 48.
The sidewalk that's on there is terrible. You guys should be having another meeting and fixing it,
otherwise you are going to have a lawsuit against the town. Bicycle riders don't even ride on that
sidewalk, they drive on the road and I urge every one of you to park by the Red Rooster and
walk down to the Knights of Columbus, you will not believe the condition of the Southold
sidewalk. And we have signs that have it as Depot Lane being a bicycle path, these little round
signs that are up there and they have been there for many years, probably before a lot of you
were even board members but the bicycle riders go down, they won't go on there. I have 11 year
old twin grandsons, about one year ago one of them took a terrible fall on his bicycle because the
roots of the tree grow up and the sidewalk is sticking up and he fell and they don't even want to
go on that road and all he wanted to do was go from my house to Evergreen. Okay. But
anyway, within one week, I should say back in September, there were two accidents on Depot
Lane and everybody things oh, Depot Lane, when I tried to tell people it is a dangerous road.
How can it be dangerous? It's straight, it's one mile. That's why, people go fast, they go very
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fast. It's a north south road, we have everything from first responders, they have to go up there,
we have people at the wineries that they have to make their reservation to go up to Lieb or Shinn
or they are coming from Lieb or Shinn and they are looking to go to Lenz or Bedell and limos
drive fast and okay, I just want to say I did send this for the record this morning, I have the
police report and I also had something from the Suffolk Times, on September 13th, people don't
believe me that it's a dangerous road and I'm just showing you one week, on September 13th
there was a two car accident on Depot Lane and Schoolhouse Road. I heard the crash in my
backyard. I went running out there and this poor couple, elderly couple, well, they were looking
to make a left to head north on Depot Lane and they got hit right across the, two cars collided in
the front, the car was going south, I didn't see it, but looking at the damage I would say car going
south on Depot was speeding, the elderly couple ended up, was through the fence and was up in
the Santa's Christmas tree farm in Cutchogue and they were taken by the ambulance to the
hospital and just a few days later a pedestrian was hit and injured and they were hit by a vehicle
on Depot Lane. And all they were doing was taking a walk down the road and I think if any one
of you, if this happened on your block, you would say this was a dangerous road. In one week,
not even. Let me look at it. September 13 was the two car accident, September 19 was the
pedestrian getting hit. Six days, less than a week. There's many accidents on Depot and the
Main Road. There's many accidents on Depot and Route 48. Okay? It's ridiculous that you
guys are thinking about maybe voting for this development to go in or this apartment complex
and have an additional sixteen two bedroom apartments and who knows what that could be, 50-
60-70 people living there. Each of them many cars, delivery people coming in, I just hope
everybody understands this before you vote on it. Okay, number three, it's setting a precedent.
If this is approved it will set a precedent throughout Southold Town. Also including other
property on Depot Lane. Across the street from Knights of Columbus is 20 plus acres that is
currently farmed and is being rented by Sang Lee. I think Joe Grattan owns it. Okay. It's not
preserved. You set a precedent, what could stop the developer from suing you and saying I want
to build homes there, I don't know, maybe you have something but it just, it's a potential
problem and not just on Depot Lane, throughout Southold Town. Also, right on Depot Lane, we
all remember Vineyard 48, well, the vines, the vineyard is on Depot Lane, besides being on 48
they own a lot of vineyards there, I don't know, I am going to say 20 acres if I look at it. That's
across the street from Knights of Columbus and north, so if you approve this and if I own that
property, I would just look at it and you set a precedent, wow, I want to build more affordable
housing there. I want to build apartments that aren't affordable housing. It doesn't matter, it's
not about affordable housing tonight, it's about the zoning change that you have to vote on
tonight. Okay, number four is water quality. Bruce just did a great job, he's a scientist, his wife
is a scientist, they work over at Stony Brook, I, when he talks about water quality, I don't even
understand half of it but I know he's the guy to listen to. Not the developer who is saying and I
heard the developer on your work session earlier this month and when he was talking about
getting the approval for water quality, his comment was and I believe one of you and I commend
you ara 1, you did ask him why should we give you the approval Before you get the approval or
the water from the county and his reply was, because 1 would sue them all the way to the
Supreme Court because of a precedent. There's that word again by the way. Okay, I think you
are putting the cart before the horse if you guys vote for this. Let the developer get all the
approvals, let Bruce and Anne, the scientists look it over and let them have some input, you have
people that are so knowledgeable and intelligent and have a real, let me say, they live here, they
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really want to, they care I guess is what I was looking for. They care, as compared to a
developer that wants to develop this property, make a lot of money. He says that he is going to
be the one who is going to manage it, he will sell it, okay, eventually. He is going to sell it okay
and who knows, you are going to be stuck, Southold Town is going to be stuck with this by a bad
decision by the Town Board. Let me just go to number five, opposition by the community. We
only heard about this about a week or so ago, we heard about it back in March but as far as
finding out it was going to be voted on tonight, so in about a week, I don't know, a few of us put
things on Facebook. One of the neighbors put up a petition, we talked to a few people and 200
people or almost 200 people signed the petition opposing it. And that's only within four days
and that's throughout Southold Town and if I reached out to anybody, I only reached out to
people in Southold Town. I don't want my relatives out of state, you don't want to hear about
them, these are Southold Town. Two hundred people are opposing this, these are 200 votes for
your next election and they don't want it. We are the voters, the developer, maybe you are good
friends with them,that doesn't matter. It's us. We are the ones that will be stuck with something
if that's a bad decision. Okay? I have my 11 year old twin grandsons here with me. They are
sweethearts. They go to Cutchogue East, we have been here, they've been with us for nine
years. I have major concerns about their safety. I have major concerns with the over-
development that's taking place. Isn't Harvest Pointe enough? Really, think about that. Okay?
And I forgot to mention before, Harvest Pointe is only 50% done. It's going to 124 units there. I
just have to think about my grandkids. Shouldn't they be able to ride their bicycle down the
road? Shouldn't they be able to go to 7-11 in the afternoon without having to worry about, oh,
no, now there's more people. And I want every one of you to take that walk by the way, from
the Red Rooster down to Knights of Columbus and see what a disgrace that sidewalk is, okay,
and that's the town sidewalk and if you don't do something, somebody is going to get hurt and
there's going to be a lawsuit and by the way, twice over the years my grandsons hit one of those
where the roots are making the sidewalk come up and they don't even want to go that way
anymore. Okay? And that's not even an issue but I thought I would just mention it because you
guys, you know, you could sit there, I don't even know if you come down Depot Lane or look at
what it is but walk that sidewalk and see why people don't ride their bicycle, see why people
don't like to walk there, see why people get hit by cars and it's a major problem. Okay? I just
want to finish up and say what is the purpose, really, of zoning? What is the purpose of elected
board members if you don't listen to the people who voted for you? 1 ask you, put your politics
aside and please vote no on this zoning change. Thank you very much.
MODERATOR: Okay, thank you for that. We don't have another hand raised at the moment
but we do have a text based message. For a text based comment, it is a question for the Board
from Christina Russo, `has the applicant yet submitted any building plans or elevations?'
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That would have been reviewed by the Planning Board.
JUSTICE EVANS: She also has her hand up. She may have more questions.
STEVEN RUSSO: This is both Steven and Christina Russo, we are located three parcels south
of the Knights of Columbus property and we fully appreciate and agree there's a need, a serious
need for affordable housing on the north fork, let alone New York in general. But we have
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serious concerns about this project for many of the reasons our neighbors have stated thus far in
relating to the health, safety and economics of those nearby residents. I think we need to just
start with some simple math, if you consider there's potential for 16 apartments to be built and
you assume an average of 3 % persons per unit, we will be placing nearly 2% of Cutchogue's
entire population on one two acre parcel of land. Similarly if you compare it to Harvest Pointe at
full construction and full capacity and Harvest Pointe is 124 units on 46 acres, this develop here
will be 16 units on 2 acres, it's nearly triple the density of Harvest Pointe. You know, our
neighbors have gone to great lengths describing the safety issues and we've made reference to
recent accidents both vehicular and pedestrian striking, Bruce has talked at length about the
potential environmental effects and as I mentioned, we are three parcels south of Knights of
Columbus and we use well water for cooking, drinking and bathing, so we have serious concerns
about potential water impairment due to rising nitrogen levels not to mention the economic
hardship we might be faced with if we have to hook up to public water or potentially upgrade our
septic system as Bruce was alluding to before should our zone be reclassified to a higher priority
district.
CHRISTINA RUSSO: This is Christina Russo, I am also at 980 Depot Lane. I was the one who
sent in that question before and so we have done our due diligence. We have scoured all the
meetings and the videos that are online and on the website and if there are elevations or building
plans that have been submitted, can't find them. They are not there for the public to see. I do
know that when the developer just talked with you guys on September 22, it was all sort of
verbal right, and we were talking about potentially uncoupling the idea of changing the zoning
from this particular project. So I would say, you change the zoning, that's in perpetuity. That is
permanent. And if it wasn't for this particular project, I am sure there is an absolute wonderful
market for that two acre property, you know, I am all for affordable housing as well for young
families, for seniors on fixed incomes, for first responders but this is private, this is a private for-
profit-enterprise that is being suggested here. This is not, just so the public knows, this is not
something that is using state funds or town funds or county funds, federal funds, where there's
lots of rules in place. So you guys can change the zoning which then sets the precedence that we
talked about for 20, 40, how many other vacant acres there are on Depot Lane. And then what
controls do we have over this project? Because we haven't actually even seen, you know, to the
other Christina who spoke earlier today, you know, the idea of putting, they are going to put 10
two bedroom units in a building that is currently 3,500 square feet maybe they will add a second
floor and it will be 7,000 square feet. Those are not units raising a family, so I don't think, I
think that there's sort of a smoke screen going on with this affordable housing, it sounds, it's
beautiful, it's wonderful marketing. First responders and teachers, the youth, except what we are
really building, we don't actually know because we don't see the plans. And I think that's why
in four days, almost 200 Southold Town residents signed the petition that we sent into you guys,
so I would say be careful what we do here because control and precedent are pretty scary.
MR. RUSSO: And one last point I forgot to mention, similar to Bruce, we are relatively new
arrivals to the area, we purchased in 2019, we purchased at a premium, we did our research. We
looked at which lands were protected, unprotected. We made sure to confirm that the Christmas
Tree farm behind us was development rights sold and we also made sure that we were paying a
premium for two acre zoning and for that to now be changed and changed in the absence of even
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looking at plans or elevations as Christina mentioned, seems a bit irresponsible on the Board's
part. Thank you.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: Thank you, Alan and thank you Louisa for recognizing me. Throughout
the years in my lifetime, the town has embarked on numerous planning exercises and some of us
remember the US-UK exchange, Southold 2000 and the last administration embarked on hamlet
stakeholders and it was comprised of members from each community and they met numerous
times in a diverse group for each hamlet and they went parcel by parcel, they defined the hamlet,
they defined the halo's and years later, the stakeholders were reconvened under Supervisor
Russell, who with that Town Board adopted the maps, parcel by tax parcel. And these were
planning documents and the stakeholders worked hard, these were deliberate decisions, both by
the stakeholders and the Town Board to define these halo's within the hamlets and the whole
idea was that each hamlet had it's own identity and was different from each other, so it wasn't
like each hamlet was going to be so many square miles or'so many acres. It was actually each
hamlet has its own character and should be so defined. So and one of the reasons that
Cutchogue's halo is shaped and hamlet is shaped like it is, is the last time there was spot zoning
we ended up with 120 units behind the post office. So this application for spot zoning is really,
shouldn't even be considered. I know the Town Board doesn't have to consider a zone change,
they can just dismiss it and as a Cutchogue resident, the impact of a spot zone behind the post
office is going to be felt more and more and there also are high density parcels next to and near
the post office that of course, will be developed over time, there's no reservation on those and
they are zoned for high density development whether business or residential. So I am asking you
not to dismiss the hamlet stakeholders work, they worked hard at it and I think that that's a
planning document and you should not, you should be dismissing any spot zoning because it is
going to change the character of the community and completely, you know, as one of the last
speakers said, it will change the character forever. There is a lot of room for high density
development yet in the halo and that will happen in the future, so you have to consider that as
well if you go outside of the halo, it just becomes all development(inaudible). Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you, Al. I just wanted to clarify in case the public
misunderstood but the spot zoning that had taken place at the site that is now the Heritage, that
was actually done.in 1983, it was recognized as appropriate in 1989 and again in 1994, that was
before either of us was on the Town Board but I know we worked together to get that number
down and to expand the open space as best we could. That prompted litigation but I think when
it was all said and done,the litigation was settled in a manner that certainly made it a much better
proposal than what it had originally been which was 165 units.
LEGISLATOR KRUPSKI: Yes, absolutely.
KAREN WALLACE: Great, thank you. We live at 2000 Hallock Lane in Mattituck
immediately adjacent to the Harbes commercial business operations and I am addressing the
Town Board regarding those operations and I just want to make sure that everybody has a very
clear understanding of what is happening there.
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: We are doing the public hearing on a proposed change of zone in
Cutchogue, as soon as that hearing is closed, when we are done with the comment, then when we
close that I am going to open up the opportunity for anybody to comment on any issue.
MS. WALLACE: Oh, I am sorry, I will wait until this is over.
MICHAEL FOOTE: Hi, thanks so much. This is Michael Foote calling. I grew up in Mattituck,
Southold, I have worked in the service industry out in Greenport for about 10 years now and I
just wanted to share that I think, especially what I have seen working in the restaurant industry,
the people who work, you know, in service industry who want to live and stay in Greenport and
Southold and Mattituck full time don't have affordable housing options and as we have all seen
during the pandemic and even before that, the areas have grown so significantly with businesses
which is great for everyone's property value and wonderful for all the small local businesses but
the problem is the businesses don't have a great pool of people they can hire to work in their
businesses, to work in these restaurants and all these places are opening and filling up and
creating all these new businesses and there's people who work in those industries who can't
afford to live out here. So it's great that we have this robust group of people moving out from
the city who are adding to the community and that is wonderful but there's this entire you know,
I guess, what do I want to call it, I guess working class group of people who can't afford to live
anywhere, so without affordable housing that is going to be really difficult. And I have already
friends sort of leave the area because of that. Or they have these absolutely insane commutes. I
think the location of the property is also a great opportunity, I mean it's not a secluded area. It's
literally between a two lane highway, the North Road and then the Main Road which is the
busiest road leading through the entire North Fork, so I think the resistance to you know, putting
a housing complex there is a little extreme given the densely populated area anyway. And the
fact that it's smack in the middle of two highways. So I think it's a great idea, housing is so
expensive out there, property values are absolutely significant and growing and people who own
restaurants and people who own small businesses out there, they have no one that they can hire
to work and the quality of employee is really low and it's only going to get worse if people can't
actually afford to live out there. Especially for people who are local, you know, people who
were born and raised in Mattituck and Southold don't have the opportunity to stay out there.
They are kind of getting priced out of their own home. So that is all I have to say. Thank you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you.
BILL GOGGINS: Good evening, my name is Bill Goggins. I appreciate the time to speak
today. Maybe shed some light on the project. The Knights of Columbus has been operating at
the site since 1980, that's when they got their special exception from the ZBA and since then
they have operated a fraternal organization there, including having weddings, pancake
real fasts, a in o e—f venom that are connec ed wi e —ath—olicc churchand�ndraisers for tine
Catholic church. And it wasn't until probably several years after that when Lew Edson had
subdivided the properties where Mr. Malkush lives, next to him is Wilsberg, there are two other
houses there too on each side which are two acre parcels but those parcels, those houses were
built after the Knights of Columbus was already established and already performing operations.
There is a full kitchen at the Kights of Columbus, there's a bar, there's 4,000 feet of catering
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facility and again, it's been operating there for almost 40 years until there was a decrease in use
recently. So the intensity of the site has always been there and the people-who bought that
houses on Depot Lane on the east side where Mr. Malkush resides, the Knights of Columbus was
already there and was already operating so he kind of came to what was already existing. But I
appreciate his comments, I understand his fear that his property values might go down, that is a
natural fear of a lot of people but in reality it won't. As I made it clear to the Housing
Committee and the Planning Board that when you drive by the Knights of Columbus which will
hopefully be affordable housing, you are not going to be able to see the building. The proposal
that we have fillers on each side of the driveway, a lot of landscaping in the front and when you
drive by, you are not even going to be able to see the building. When you drive by it's,going to
look like there's a mansion back there, an estate, so you are not going to see it. Nobody is going
to know what is behind it like some of the other houses on that road, they put a lot of landscaping
in front probably to decrease the road noise and that's exactly what is going to be done here, so
you are'not going to be able to see from the road so if nobody knows it's there, it is not going to
be an adverse, unsightly view, I don't really see what the concern is but I understand the fear of
losing value and I also understand what Mr. Brownawell about groundwater, we want to make
sure that the groundwater in our town stays clean and potable. But that is why we have the
health department and that's why this,project has to go to the health department for approval.
And the process is that the change of zone happens and then you go through health department
approval and planning board approval and possible ZBA approval so that's the process. And you
know, to address what Mr. Krupski was talking about with spot zoning. This is not spot zoning,
the Town Board in it's wisdom in the past created this affordable housing district as a floating
zone so that they could put in the affordable housing units and sprinkle them throughout the town
so that we could have affordable housing, for the volunteer firemen, for the waitresses, waiters,
people who work for plumbers and electricians, it is very important that we have housing for
these people so they are not living in the basement, I think she said her name was Urwand, she
said she lives in the basement with her boyfriend. I mean, it's ridiculous how some of these
people have to live and all this affects the most vulnerable, some of the most vulnerable and
that's the lower income people. You know, out here the property value keeps going up, the rich
get richer, the poor get poorer. The young kids get pushed-out of the community and that's
what's happening, so to have 16 units on Depot Lane doesn't seem to be that big of a deal unless
you are actually living on Depot Lane as the people who spoke earlier are. And again, I
understand their concerns but I don't think those concerns are of such great importance when
you balance their concerns with having affordable housing and I know everybody knows the area
we are talking about between Route 48 and the Main Road and as you know it's about a mile
long and in that.mile we have several uses, we have a gas station on the corner of Depot and the
Main Road, the other corner we have offices, then we have a gym, then we have the school
administration building that used to be an elementary school, Cutchogue West, now it's used as
an administrative and parking of busses and so forth. As you go further north you have a bed
and breakfast which is owned by Mr.Brownawell and his spouse and, that is a bed and breakfast
that has three suites, so they have got a little hotel running operation there and they didn't seem
too concerned when they bought the property and are running a bed and breakfast there which is
permitted by the town, which is great, they can run a bed and breakfast and earn a profit....
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I hate to interrupt, I would just ask that you address the Town Board
not necessarily....
MR. GOGGINS: I am, I am just addressing their concerns. But I will go forward, thank you.
Further up the road in front of Mr. Malkush's house, he puts a farmstand up there occasionally,
further up the road we have a Catholic rectory and Catholic church, Our Lady of Ostrabrama,
next to that is the Sacred Heart Cemetery which is pretty large. Further up the road is the Red
Rooster restaurant, next to the railroad tracks. Up from there is a wholesale bookstore,
Buccaneer Books, which is a commercial operation. On the other side of the tracks you have
Gary Schulman produce shipper that's been there forever. Across the street from him there is a
big storage facility where they are storing boats. So in that mile area, we have about 14 uses that
are not residential and the substantial rest of Depot Lane is farm field. And at the site of the
project,to the east is the farmland that all of the development rights have been sold, so to the east
there is never going to be construction there and its open space and across the street there's
farmland and I think as Mr. Brownawell pointed out or Mr. Malkush, yes, it can be developed
and the Grattan family owns it but again, that is subject to Planning Board approval and
everything else so I think those concerns are not that important because there are things in place
that protect that. And as far as the height of the building and how the building looks like, the
Planning Board is very diligent board and they make sure that these projects look good, that they
are properly screened and you know, they are developed in a decent manner. Also, there was
another concern about maybe we would flip the property or get rid of it, the town code makes it
very clear that this affordable housing district, once it is changed will be there in perpetuity,
which means forever. As long as it's a viable project. Initially we had wanted 20 units but we
had to scale it down because of the sanitary flow credits, the most we could get was a project of
16 units and that's not a very big project when you come down to it, 16 bedroom units is not a
high project that is going to cause a big change in the neighborhood, so I wanted to address those
things as well. In the end, conclusion, I think this is a good project for the town, I think it will
help keep our volunteer firemen here who are struggling to find apartments to live, affordable
apartments, without our volunteer firemen we have to with, we have to hire fire people, we have
to go into a place where they, where our town has to have a fire department which is not
volunteer, we have to pay for which will raise everybody's taxes. So we need these volunteer
firemen, we need them to stay in town and they are really decent, hard working people and they
volunteer to help us all out and this is a project that can help them, people that are situated like
them. And for you too, for the Town Board to neglect to address that part of the balancing act
that you have to do, I think it will be hurtful for the town in the long run. So I would ask that this
project go through, I think it will be good for the town, I don't think it is going to have any
adverse impacts on property values, it is not going to have any adverse impact on water quality
in the area. I think it is a perfect place to do this, there aren't many places in the town where we
could have affordable housing. No matter where you choose to put these affordable housing
is ric s, there is always going to be opposition to the people Who live close by the project an
again, I know it's a tough balancing act for the Town Board and I ask that you balance in favor
of the lower income people that want to stay here and work here and have a life here. Thank
you.
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JOE AND ADRIENNE FUCHS: Thank you very much. This is Joe and Adrienne Fuchs, we
live at 1070 Depot. I would like to say that we are in strong opposition to what's being proposed
here and it's based on the comments that my neighbors made tonight but one thing I want to add,
in the last four or five days, I have spoken to probably two dozen people who live in Southold
and just reflecting on those conversations, two things were very, very clear. One that these
people were not in opposition to affordable housing, they understand the need and they want to
see that happen but number two, they are violently opposed to rezoning a residential property for
multi-family use. They see that as a threat in their neighborhoods, they project what that means
to their values. We all live in Southold because it's a truly unique place. It's incredibly
beautiful, tranquil, quiet and it's the reason that we are here. Just contemplating this change
really changes the whole character of what Southold is about and I think you will have very, very
unhappy people in the Town of Southold if we allow this to happen. That's it for me.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you very much.
MODERATOR: Next we have a couple of text based comments, so there are a group of them
together from Steven and Christina Russo, so the first question is, is there some implication that
Knights of Columbus is the same as 16 units of rental apartments and just because you can't see
it, it's not there? I don't know if the Board wants to respond to it?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: The question with reference to is there consistency with those two
usesT What, as part of the public hearing we will take all opinions and all comments but, you
know, the issue of trying to,decide if it's consistent or not, that's for the Board to decide after we
hear from the entire public.
MODERATOR: Okay. The next one is in the similar vein but I am going to read it into the
record because it was a submitted comment, from Steven and Christina Russo also. Is there also
an implication that the increased sewage flow from the transient B and B guests is the same as
that from full-time residents of a 16 unit apartment complex? And the next one, also from
Steven and Christina Russo is, did any of the mixed use properties that Mr. Goggins is referring
to on Depot Lane require zoning change at the time they were erected?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: What we do is we will gather all the questions and then we will
make that part of our, as we contemplate.
MODERATOR: Okay. One more text based comment, last text based comment that I can see at
the moment is also from Steven and Christina Russo, is putting two percent of the Cutchogue
population on a single parcel not a significant change to the area? So those read into the record.
So we have Al Krupski.
ALBERT KRUPSKI: I did not have my hand raised.
MODERATOR: Oh, okay. Did you have anything to add?
MR. KRUPSKI: No.
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SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Al, I am just going to outline some protocol for public hearing, what
we would like to do is have people make comments and then continue with people-who haven't
had a chance to make one yet, to focus on them. And then if anybody has additional comments,
we will take them after everybody has at least had a chance to speak first.
MODERATOR: At the moment, I do not see any hands raised and our q and a box is empty. It
looks like at the moment things are addressed or quiet.
JUSTICE EVANS: I move we close the hearing.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: I propose that we leave the hearing open so we can gather
more comments, leave it open for written comments.
JUSTICE EVANS: Do we want a motion to close or a motion to just go back to regular session?
Leave the hearing open for two weeks? I just couldn't hear what Bob and Jill were saying.
COUNCILWOMAN NAPPA: I feel that I would like to table this and have more discussion
with the Board on this before we vote.
JUSTICE EVANS: It's not on the agenda to vote tonight.
COUNCILWOMAN NAPPA: Okay.
COUNCILMAN GHOSIO: Inaudible.
COUNCILWOMAN DOHERTY: We are fine with closing the hearing.
RESULT: CLOSED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Louisa P. Evans, Justice
SECONDER:Robert Ghosio, Councilman
AYES: Nappa, Dinizio Jr, Doherty, Ghosio, Evans, Russell
Closing Comments
Supervisor Russell
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: What I am first going to do is offer the opportunity to Mr. and Mrs.
Wallace, I believe you had some comments that you earlier that you started to address with your
issues in Mattituck. I am going to invite you to speak first.
Mrs. Wallace
MRS. WALLACE: Thank you Supervisor Russell for recognizing us and remembering us after
this busy evening you all have had. I appreciate the opportunity to address the Board. As I
mentioned, we live at 2000 Hallock Lane in Mattituck and have done so for the past 20 years.
We are immediately adjacent to the Harbes Farm operation and have seen their transformation
from a family run farm into an entertainment venue and I want to be sure that the Town Board is
fully aware of the operations that are undergoing, that are taking place on one of the parcels of
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land. I know that the businesses are site planned as a winery/farmstand but a parcel immediately
adjacent to that has a business called the Harbes Farmyard adventure which per their website is
an 8 acre,paid admission area open from May to October, currently priced at$25.95 per person
and includes farm animals, (inaudible)hedge maze, a trike track,jumbo jumpers, a pig race,
sports zone and a recently added silo based, I will call it jungle gym/obstacle course. We need
to know the towns position on the activities going on, on this parcel. The parcel enjoys the
benefit of an agricultural exemption on nearly 75% of the total land. it has done so for many
years, so my impression then is that it is farming. it is agriculturally used. So I need very
specifically to know how this activity fits into the statutory definition of farming? I met with
you, Supervisor Russell in August 2018 and discussed some of these activities with you at that
point in time and my concern about them as farming and I am afraid I didn't walk away with a
very specific answer as to how those activities fit into, again, the statutory definition of farming.
You mentioned that the Department of Agriculture takes a very expansive view of farming which
I definitely understand and doesn't provide municipalities much wiggle room regarding
enforcement issues that aren't farming. Nonetheless, they are farming,the Southold Town has
given them an agricultural exemption, so I am asking the Town Board how those activities fit
into farming? How they qualify as agricultural use?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: First the land would have to be under production or supporting the ag
operation is entitled to an exemption under the New York State Ag and Markets law, so the town
doesn't have the discretion of deciding whether they are entitled to an exemption or not, it's
spelled out by real property tax law. Inaudible.
MRS. WALLACE: With respects, as I understand it the annual exemption is submitted annually
to the assessors office in the town...
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes.
MRS. WALLACE: And the property owner makes an affirmative statement as to their
agricultural use.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: That's right.
MRS. WALLACE: And it is up to the Assessor to stamp that OK or not OK. So there is a
decision that is being made in the Town Hall regarding agricultural use and I understand that the
town makes its determination of agricultural use in the context of what the state says but you just
identified what is agricultural use according to the section 300's of the agricultural and market
laws. It is for the production of crops,and activities in the production of crops. How does a
jumbo jumper support the production of crops?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Well, there are a couple of issues here, first you have to do, I really
need to look to see if they are extending the agricultural exemption to that core activity area.
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MRS. WALLACE: They are, Mr. Supervisor. They are extending to the exemption, I have the
bill right here. They are extending the exemption to 75% of the land. So it is clear that the land
is enjoying the benefit of the exemption. It is very clear.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: I don't have the benefit of that in front of me but it sounds like 25%
of the land would not be getting the benefit of that, is that correct?
MRS. WALLACE: Because 25% of the land has agricultural buildings on it.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes, agricultural buildings. Agricultural buildings, land that is used
not just in the production of crops but in support of production of crops.
MRS. WALLACE: Right.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: So 25%probably pertains to the Ag buildings or what are
considered ag buildings which are the retail components. That would be removed from the
exemption. But I can't answer questions tonight about the decision making of the Assessors in
determining how they qualify or how they didn't qualify any acre of land there but one of the
issues, and it is frustrating and I talked to you about this in 2018, which is the term agritainment.
The idea in the old days agritainment was the corn mazes and things like that. That sort of
expanded a great deal at the state level. It's one of those things where Ag and Markets doesn't
really give you a definitive, hey, this is what it is. You go to them and you ask them, you know...
MRS. WALLACE: And Mr. Supervisor, have you asked them?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Yes. Actually, Ag and Markets was just out probably three weeks
ago and they found that the Harbes operation to be in complete compliance with New York
State. I had a conference call with them just last week. The Ag and Markets was out three
weeks ago and found the operation to be in complete compliance with New York State Ag and
Markets law.
MRS. WALLACE: Okay, I need something in writing.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay.
MRS. WALLACE: Please let me finish. The town residents need something in writing because I
will assert that that person is making new law. If that person reviewed the activities that are
being undertaken at the Harbes Farmyard Adventure, it is entirely inconsistent with the statute
and the written guidance provided by New York State. I am quoting New York State now, and it
saes that 'if-ffep—rimary purpose of the activities are to charge an ad mission price, it is not a
protected farm operation' Jumbo jumpers are not a protected farm operation. Gemstone mining
is not a protected farm operation. If that person provided the town with informal guidance, it is
my assertion they are making new law and every farmer in New York State will be interested as
well as municipalities just like us. I need that in writing. Every single town resident needs that
in writing. You cannot go on an informal opinion of an administrator, Mr. Supervisor. This
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activity, while not entirely responsible, for disrupting every single residents life, is a major
contributor. To simply get informal guidance from a site visit that I understand was more
COVID related than anything else is unacceptable. You and the town have facilitated the
operation of a business that is not farming. It is not farming under ag rules, it is not farming
under real property tax law and to suggest that an informal site visit from a person and I would
like to know their name, is valid for purposes of establishing the validating,the disruption that
that business creates, Supervisor, that business has destroyed our neighborhood,ripped out our
property values and disrupts every single resident of this towns life. You are, it is dumbfounding
to me that the town is willing to accept an informal opinion. It must be in writing because if it's
not in writing, they are making new law.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Okay.
MRS. WALLACE: And I am sure the commissioner will be very interested in that.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Look,I have to be candid, I agree with a lot of what you say,the
issue is New York State has, I think, expanded the allowances on ag operations to too great an
extent to move them to more of a commercial component rather than an ag operation, as we
traditionally understand it. Some of it is necessary, some of it is not. However,please submit to
me the information that you read tonight.
MRS. WALLACE: Absolutely.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Also, understand, I understand your frustration, I feel it. I get phone
calls day and night...
MRS. WALLACE: I am sure you do.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: And I live here,too, and I try to get in and out of Southold too, so I
understand the frustration. I had actually opposed the winery years ago because I believe that to
be a second use which wasn't permitted on site, that wasn't the decision within town government,
however,that has been closed to reduce some of the impacts from what I understand. What New
York State assured me was that the winery had been closed for the time being to reduce some of
the impacts, but I have, I share a lot of the frustration, at the same time I recognize the need for
agriculture to expand beyond just selling crops. It's a balancing act. It's a balancing act. And it's
a very difficult one.
MRS. WALLACE: Well, with respect I will, I appreciate your consideration and I appreciate
you all hearing me out but I have spent hours and days a prisoner in my home, investing in the
New York's perspective. Let me just give you one example and then I'll sign-off and I will
forward you the information. There is a bouncy pillow over there, sold by a company in Utah,
there are about 15 of them in service in New York State. There is only one in service on Long
Island,and it is in Mattituck. The other 14 are in districts that I have not completed my research
but they are in districts on farms that have a permissable use such as outdoor recreation,
community recreation, they don't look to the agriculture department to qualify that as farming
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because it is not. So I look forward to getting the results of your review of this information and I
look forward to seeing and hearing with some specificity, written opinion of the New York State
Department of Agriculture asserting this is farming because you will need it in writing. Thank
you.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you.
COUNCILWOMAN NAPPA: When you send that information, could you copy the Board
members on that as well?
MRS. WALLACE: Of course I will.
Abigail Field
ABIGAIL FIELD: First I need to apologize, I lost track of time and so I just joined this meeting
so I have no context in the sense that I was trying to join this meeting to talk about affordable
housing in Cutchogue. Did I miss my opportunity to do that?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: No, by all means, feel free. This is the part of the meeting that you
can discuss anything you would like.
MS. FIELD: Thank you very much, I appreciate that. I had lost track of time, I know there is a
proposal on the table to turn the Knights of Columbus property on Depot Lane into affordable
housing and that you are considering adopting a floating zone in order to, changing the zoning to
put the affordable housing district on that site in order for it to happen, that is my understanding
of the situation. Is that accurate?
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: The public hearing tonight was yes,the application was to consider
the change of zone of the property known as the Knights of Columbus to affordable housing.
MS. FIELD: Okay, great because again, I wanted to make sure I was on point with the context
because I missed the earlier part of the meeting. I as a general matter support the change of zone
and the project because we need affordable housing and it reuses an existing structure which I
think is an incredibly important component. In addition, it is less than half a mile from the Main
Road, the Valero intersection, has a sidewalk that my son and I bike on, this is in my backyard.
So I am being sort of opposite a NIMBY on this, and it is, the lots in between this property and
the Valero intersection are largely small lot family homes, so although that particular parcel is in
a larger zone area, the concept isn't wildly out of sync. All of that said, my main concern is this
is outside the halo zone and I would like to suggest that before you adopt a zoning change by
itself in this particular context, at the same time, you adopt standards a must be met whenever
you are going to approve this kind of a zone change outside the halo. The halo should be a
meaningful concept, we should be concentrating development inside the halo zones to the extent
possible and I think for example and this isn't intended to be exhaustive, I am trying to get you
guys to think about this, I want you to do proactive policy so we don't end up with a problem
down the road where someone points to this as a precedent that would be used to justify a more
problematic project, right? So set the standards now and make sure they are ones this project
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meets. So for example, I would suggest that if you were going to put in an affordable housing
zone outside the halo, you must reuse an existing building. Let's not take farmland and turn it
into housing outside the halo,just for the sake of housing. That's one thing. Two, if you are
going to be increasing the density because you are putting the affordable housing in, let's make
sure that the septic is done properly. I don't really care if it's advanced wastewater septic or if it's
an on-site sewer,right,that is discharging upland ideally and not just straight on into the bay,
like let's do it smart. But that's a standard that's not just about this project. That's about how
should you permit this stuff`outside the halo. Another example might be,you know that
sidewalk that runs, you know traffic is a real concern,traffic impact. One of the reasons I like
this property is you can actually walk downtown and you can bike, I bike from my house to King
Kullen, it's 3/4 of a mile, right, that's all th at is. This property is less than 1/2 a mile from the
Valero, it's an easy distance to King Kullen also, 7-11 in an after hours pinch but that sidewalk is
actually hard to bike on. I have to tell you, sidewalks are how you should bike in the Town of
Southold, I say that as a former New York City resident. it is appalling to me to bike on a
sidewalk in general because you just don't do that in the city but out here because of the speed of
the cars,the lack of a shoulder and the fact that we have all these wineries and texting and
driving is a big thing now, I think having sidewalks that you can bike on is really helpful.
(Inaudible) But that every other project has to meet so that you are establishing a strong and
clean precedent that is pro-community and pro-character of the community, then this becomes a
much more problematic project because the next one may not be, may not be so well sited. The
next one might have impacts that are harder to address and Southold has been taking a lot of heat
for being reactive and not setting things up from the beginning in a way that works for the
community, so I would strongly encourage you to look at this project seriously, it meets a need, I
think the reuse of the building and its location near the halo and the downtown,pre-existing need
to repair sidewalk, all of that, makes this an attractive project to meet a desperate need. But if
you do it without adopting these sorts of standards in tandem, you are potentially creating
problems down the road that can not be nearly so easily addressed because the precedent will
exist. With that, I think I am just starting to repeat myself, so thank you very much for your
time.
SUPERVISOR RUSSELL: Thank you. Who else would like to address the Town Board? (No
response) Just for those that it looks like they are still listening, we had actually closed the
hearing for the proposed change of zone request but we are not taking action tonight,just so
everybody is clear on that.
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Motion To: Adjourn Town Board Meeting
RESOLVED that this meeting of the Southold Town Board be and hereby is declared adjourned
at 9:03 P.M.
Eliza th A.Neville
Southold Town Clerk
RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]_
MOVER: Louisa P. Evans, Justice
SECONDER:Robert Ghosio, Councilman
AYES: Nappa, Dinizio Jr, Doherty, Ghosio, Evans, Russell
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