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Southold Town Clerk
PUBLIC MEETING
MINUTES
May 6, 2019
6:00 p.m.
Present were: Donald J. Wilcenski, Chairman
James H. Rich III, Vice-Chairman
Martin Sidor, Member
Pierce Rafferty, Member
Mary Eisenstein, Member
Heather Lanza, Planning Director
Brian Cummings, Planner
Allison Palmeri, Office Assistant
SETTING OF THE NEXT PLANNING BOARD MEETING
Chairman Wilcenski: Good afternoon and welcome to the May 6, 2019 Planning
Board meeting. The first order of business is for the Board to set Monday, June 3, 2019
at 6:00 p.m. at the Southold Town Hall, Main Road, Southold, as the time and place for
the next regular Planning Board Meeting.
James H. Rich III: So moved.
Pierce Rafferty: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Jim, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion? All in
favor?
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Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
SUBDIVISIONS - STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT
(SEQRA)
SEQRA Type Classifications/Set Hearings/Waivers of Provisions:
Chairman Wilcenski: 260 Hortons Lane Resubdivision —This resubdivision
proposes to transfer 0.07 acres (3,240 sq. ft.) from SCTM#1000-61.-1-9.3 to
SCTM#1000-61.-1-3.1. As a result of this resubdivision, Lot 9.3 will decrease in size
from 2.53 acres to 2.46 acres and Lot 3.1 will increase in size from 0.48 acres to 0.55
acres in the HB Zoning District. The properties are located at 260 Hortons Lane and
53095 State Route 25, on the east side of Hortons Lane, +/- 250' northwest of SR 25 in
Southold. SCTM#1000-61.-1-3.1
Pierce Rafferty:
WHEREAS, this resubdivision proposes to transfer 0.074 acres (3,240 sq. ft.) from
SCTM#1000-61.-1-9.4 to SCTM#1000-61.-1-3.1; and
WHEREAS, as a result of this resubdivision, Lot 9.3 will decrease in size from 2.53
acres to 2.46 acres and Lot 3.1 will increase in size from 0.48 acres to 0.55 acres in the
HB Zoning District; and
WHEREAS, the properties are located at 260 Hortons Lane and 53095 State Route 25,
on the east side of Hortons Lane, +/- 250' northwest of SR 25 in Southold; and
WHEREAS, on April 15, 2019, the applicant submitted a re-subdivision application for
review by the Southold Town Planning Board; and
WHEREAS, on May 6, 2019, the Southold Town Planning Board found the re-
subdivision application complete at their Work Session; and
WHEREAS, pursuant to §240-56 Waivers of certain provisions, the Southold Town
Planning Board shall have the authority to modify or waive, subject to appropriate
conditions, any provision of these subdivision regulations, if in its judgment they are not
requisite in the interest of the public health, safety and general welfare, except where
such authority would be contrary to other ordinances or state law; and
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WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board has determined that the following
provisions of the Southold Town Code §240 Subdivision of Land are not requisite in the
interest of the public health, safety and general welfare because this resubdivision is
not creating any new development potential and the amount of land being transferred is
very small, and therefore, are eligible for a waiver:
a. Sketch Plat Review
b. Existing Resources Site Analysis Plan (ERSAP)
c. Yield Plan
d. Primary & Secondary Conservation Area Plan
e. Preliminary Plat Review
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to State Environmental
Quality Review Act (SEQRA) 6 NYCRR, Part 617, has determined that the proposed
action is a Type II Action under SEQRA according to 617.5(c)(16) "granting of individual
setback and lot line variances and adjustments,"; be it therefore
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board hereby classifies this proposed
action as a Type II Action under SEQRA as described above;
James H. Rich III: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Pierce, seconded by Jim. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Pierce Rafferty: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board,-pursuant to §240-56 Waivers of
certain provisions, hereby waives the following provisions of subdivision,
a. Article V: Sketch Plat Review
b. §240-10 (A): Existing Resources Site Analysis Plan (ERSAP)
c. §240-10 (8): Yield Plan
d. §240-10 (C): Primary & Secondary Conservation Area Plan
e. Article VI. Preliminary Plat Review;
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James H. Rich III: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Pierce, seconded by Jim. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Pierce Rafferty: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board sets Monday, June 3, 2019 at
6:02 p.m. for a Public Hearing upon the map entitled "Lot Line Modification Map of
Property", prepared by Nathan Taft Corwin III, Land Surveyor, dated November 11,
2016, last revised May 22, 2017.;
James H. Rich III: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Pierce, seconded by Jim. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Chairman Wilcenski: Wickham & Wickham-Resubdivision —The resubdivision
proposes to merge part of Lot 2 with Lot 1. Lot 1 (SCTM#1000-103.-11-21) is 0.54
acres. Lot 2 contains two tax parcels, SCTM#1000-103.-11-22.1, the reserved area of
0 39 acres, and SCTM#1000-103.-11-22.2, the farm area where the development rights
are held by Suffolk County. As a result of this resubdivision, Lot 2 will no longer contain
a reserved area, and Lot 1 will increase in size from 0.54 acres to 0.93 acres, in the R-
80 Zoning District. The Zoning Board of Appeals granted a variance for the
nonconforming lot size in File: 7101. This parcel is located on a right-of-way +/- 200'
southwest of Old Pasture Road in Cutchogue. SCTM#1000-103-11-21, 22.1 & 22 2
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James H. Rich III:
WHEREAS, this resubdivision proposes to merge part of Lot 2 with Lot 1, where Lot 1
(SCTM#1000-103.-11-21) is 0.54 acres, and Lot 2 contains two tax parcels,
SCTM#1000-103.-11-22.1, the reserved area of 0.39 acres, and SCTM#1000-103.-11-
22.2, the farm area where the development rights are held by Suffolk County; and
WHEREAS, as a result of this re-subdivision, Lot 2'will no longer contain a reserved
area, and Lot 1 will increase in size from 0.54 acres to 0.93 acres, in the R-80 Zoning
District. The Zoning Board of Appeals granted a variance for the nonconforming lot size
in File: 7101. This parcel is located on a right-of-way +/- 200' southwest of Old Pasture
Road in Cutchogue. SCTM#1000-103-11-21, 22.1 & 22.2; and
WHEREAS, on November 20, 2017, the Zoning Board of Appeals granted a variance
for the nonconforming lot size in File#: 7101 with the condition to receive approval from
the Southold Town Planning Board for lot creation; and
WHEREAS, on March 29, 2019, the applicant submitted a resubdivision application for
review by the Southold Town Planning Board; and
WHEREAS, on April 22, 2019, the Southold Town Planning Board found the
resubdivision application complete at their Work Session; and
WHEREAS, pursuant to §240-56 Waivers of certain provisions, the Southold Town
Planning Board shall have the authority to modify or waive, subject to appropriate
conditions, any provision of these subdivision regulations, if in its judgment they are not
requisite in the interest of the public health, safety and general welfare, except where
such authority would be contrary to,other ordinances or state law, and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board has determined that the following
provisions of the Southold Town Code §240 Subdivision of Land are not requisite in the
interest of the public health, safety and general welfare because this resubdivision does
not create any additional residential building lots, reduces by one the number of
residential dwelling units, and the amount of land being transferred from one lot to the
other is small, and therefore are eligible for a waiver:
f. Sketch Plat Review
g. Existing Resources Site Analysis Plan,(ERSAP)
h. Yield Plan
i. Primary & Secondary Conservation Area Plan
j. Preliminary Plat Review
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to State Environmental
Quality Review Act (SEQRA) 6 NYCRR, Part 617, has determined that the proposed
action is a Type II Action under SEQRA according to 617.5(c)(16) "granting of individual
setback and lot line variances and adjustments,"; be it therefore
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RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board hereby classifies this proposed
action as a Type II Action under SEQRA as described above;
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Martin Sidor: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Jim, seconded by Martin. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
James H. Rich III: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to §240-56 Waivers of
certain provisions, hereby waives the following provisions of subdivision;
a. Article V. Sketch Plat Review
b. §240-10 (A): Existing Resources Site Analysis Plan (ERSAP)
c. §240-10 (8): Yield Plan
d. §240-10 (Q): Primary & Secondary Conservation Area Plan
e. Article VI: Preliminary Plat Review;
Martin Sidor: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Jim, seconded by Martin Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
James H. Rich III: And be it further
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RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board sets Monday, June 3, 2019 at
6:01 p.m. for a Public Hearing upon the map entitled "John L. Wickham
Resubdivision", prepared by John C. Ehlers, Land Surveyor, dated December 8, 2014,
last revised July 26, 2017.
Martin Sidor: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Jim, seconded by Martin. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
SUBDIVISIONS
Conditional Preliminary Plat Determination:
Chairman Wilcenski: Duffy Standard Subdivision —This proposal is for a Standard
Subdivision of a 3 02 acre parcel into two lots, where Lot 1 is 1.69 acres and Lot 2 is
1.33 acres in the R-40 Zoning District. This parcel is located on the west side of the
intersection of Little Peconic Bay Road and Wunneweta Road, Nassau Point,
Cutchogue. SCTM#1000-111-11-26.1
Mary Eisenstein:
WHEREAS, this proposal is for a Standard Subdivision of a 3.02 acre parcel into two
lots, where Lot 1 is 1.69 acres and Lot 2 is 1.33 acres, located at 3360 Wunneweta
Road, on the northwest side of the intersection of Little Peconic Bay Road and
Wunneweta Road, in the R-40 Zoning; and
WHEREAS, on February 2, 2018, the agent submitted a Sketch Plan Application and
fee; and
WHEREAS, on May 7, 2018, the applicant submitted a Yield Plan compliant with the
minimum requirements of subdivision set forth in §240-8 Yield Plan; and
WHEREAS, on May 23, 2018, at their Work Session, the Planning Board found the
Sketch Plan application complete upon submittal of a revised Sketch Plan; and
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WHEREAS, on June 11, 2018, the revised Sketch Plan was submitted and the
application was found complete; and
WHEREAS, on July 9, 2018, the Planning Board granted a Conditional Sketch Plan
Approval upon the application, and
WHEREAS, on October 26, 2018, the applicant submitted a Preliminary Plat application
and fee; and
WHEREAS, on November 5, 2018, the Planning Board found the Preliminary Plat
application complete at their work session; and
WHEREAS, on November 5, 2018, the Planning Board set the Public Hearing for
Monday December 3, 2018 at their Public Meeting; and
WHEREAS, on November 5, 2019, the Planning Board classified the proposed action
as an Unlisted Action under SEQRA; and
WHEREAS, on November 6, 2018, the agent for the applicant requested that the
hearing be postponed from December 3, 2019 to a later date due to a conflict; and
WHEREAS, on December 3, 2018, the Planning Board re-set the Public Hearing for
January 14, 2019, as requested by the agent; and
WHEREAS, on December 11, 2018, the Preliminary Plat application was referred to
applicable agencies for comment and to coordinate SEQRA; and
WHEREAS, on January 4, 2019, the Town of Southold Local Waterfront Revitalization
Program (LWRP) Coordinator reviewed this application, and recommended the
proposed project be found consistent with the policies of the Southold Town LWRP;
and
WHEREAS, on January 14, 2019, the Public Hearing was held and closed; and
WHEREAS, on January 15, 2019, the Suffolk County Planning Commission responded
without comment; and
WHEREAS, on March 11, 2019, at their work session, the Planning Board found that
this subdivision presents a proper case for requiring a park, and that because suitable
land does not exist within the proposed subdivision, the Park and Playground Fee is
required to be paid in lieu of providing a park within the subdivision; the required fee is
$7,000.00 per new lot created, and
WHEREAS, on March 11, 2019, at their work session, the Planning Board reviewed the
Public Hearing comments and the comments returned from the applicable and involved
agencies in which the application was referred to for comment, and all applicable
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comments were incorporated into the application to the satisfaction of the Planning
Board; and
WHEREAS, on March 11, 2019, at their Public Meeting, the Southold Town Planning
Board, as Lead Agency pursuant to SEQRA, made a determination of non-significance
for the proposed action and granted a Negative Declaration; and
WHEREAS, on April 8, 2019, the Planning Board reviewed the Preliminary Plat
application and found that it is in compliance with the requirements of §240 Subdivision
of land, of the Town Code; therefore be it
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board has determined that this proposed
action is consistent with the policies of the Town of Southold LWRP;
Pierce Rafferty: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Mary, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion? All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Mary Eisenstein: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grants a Conditional Preliminary
Plat Approval upon the map entitled "Preliminary Plat for Duffy at Nassau Point,"
prepared by Kenneth M. Woychuk, Land Surveyor, dated August 1, 2015, last revised
October 26, 2018, with the following conditions-,
1. Approval by the Suffolk County Department of Health Services (SCDHS) will be
required prior to Final Plat Approval, and must include approval of the use of
innovative/alternative wastewater treatment systems (I/AOWTS), as permitted
under Suffolk County's Article 19;
2. Determine whether or not a DEC SWPPP is required. A written analysis from the
applicant's engineer must be submitted to the Planning Department for review by
the Town Engineer,
3. Submit a Final Plat application with a Final Plat entitled "Final Plat for Duffy
Standard Subdivision, inclusive of the following:
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a. Reduce the building envelope on Lot 1 to coincide with the southernmost '
line of the clearing limits to avoid the steep slopes;
b. Label all proposed buffers, clearing limits, and building envelopes on the
Final Plat;
c. Place all clearing limit calculations and percentages in a table;
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d. Remove proposed dwelling illustrations on Lots 1 and 2;
e. Remove topographical lines;
f. Provide notations on the plat for markers to be placed at the edge of the
buffer areas and for concrete monuments to identify the proposed lot lines
pursuant to §240-41 Technical Requirements. Installation of monuments
will be required prior to Final Plat Approval in this case due to a
performance guarantee not being required.
4. Fulfill the street.tree requirement pursuant to §240-49 Clearing to the satisfaction
of the Planning Board.
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5. A Park & Playground fee of $7,000, pursuant to §240-53 G of the Southold Town
Code, will be required to be submitted as a condition of Conditional Final Plat
approval prior to Final Plat Approval;
6. An Administration Fee in the amount of $4,000 pursuant to Southold Town Code
§240-37 Administration fee will be required to be submitted as a condition of
Conditional Final Plat approval prior to Final Plat Approval;
7. Covenants and restrictions are required to be filed with the Suffolk County
Clerk's Office. A draft template of the covenants and restrictions will be provided
by the Planning Department, and reviewed and approved by the'Planning Board
during the Final Plat Application review process. The covenants will be required
to be provided as notes as a condition of Conditional Final Plat Approval.
Pierce Rafferty: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Mary, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion? All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
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Conditional Final Determinations:
Chairman Wilcenski: Brantuk & Pearson Resubdivision —This proposal is for the
resubdivision of SCTM#1000-86.-6-31 & 1000-75.-6-7.2, where 0.27 acres is proposed
for transfer from Lot 1 (86.-03-31) to Lot 2 (75.-6-7.2). Lot 1 will decreased in size from
5.23 acres to 4.96 acres and Lot 2 increased from 5.30 acres to 5.57 acres in the AC
Zoning District. This property is located at the end of the private r.o.w. beginning at S.R.
25 +/- 930' east of Wells Avenue, in Peconic. SCTM#1000-86-6-31 & 75-6-7.2
Pierce Rafferty:
WHEREAS, this proposal is for the resubdivision of SCTM#1000-86.-3-31 & 1000-75.-
6-7.2, where 0.27 acres is proposed for transfer from Lot 1 (86.-6-31) to Lot 2 (75.-6-
7.2); and
WHEREAS, Lot 1 will decrease in size from 5.23 acres to 4.96 acres and Lot 2
increased from 5.30 acres to 5.57 acres in the AC Zoning District; and
WHEREAS, this property is located at the end of the private r.o.w. beginning at S.R. 25
+/- 930' east of Wells Avenue, in Peconic; and
WHEREAS, this resubdivision proposes to eliminate the portion of the right of way to
Richmond Creek located on Lot 1; and
WHEREAS, the 50' right of way was originally created for the minor subdivision for
Mohring Enterprises II approved by the Planning Board on-May 10, 1985; and
WHEREAS, as a result of this resubdivision, the existing property line of Lot 2 will be
extended as a flag to incorporate a 25' wide section of the former 50' right of way
currently located on Lot 1 that extends to Richmond Creek; and
WHEREAS, where the right of way meets Richmond Creek, there is a "turn-around"
area of 100' x 120', of which 40' x 80' will be included in Lot 2, and the remainder of the
section of the right of way to Richmond Creek located on Lot 1 will be extinguished; and
WHEREAS, on April 27, 2011, the applicant submitted a resubdivision application and
fee; and
WHEREAS, on June 10, 2011, the Planning Board found the resubdivision application
complete; and
WHEREAS, on July 13, 2011, the application was referred to all involved and interested
agencies; and
WHEREAS, at their Public Meeting, the Planning Board set the Public Hearing for the
application to be held on August 8, 2011; and
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WHEREAS, on July 25, 2011, the Planning Board asked for additional materials and
required the applicant file a covenant that would require the restriction of a dock on Lot
1, as this lot line change would create the ability for the non-waterfront lots to create a
dock, and an additional dock on Lot 1, which was not permitted in the original
subdivision due to the configuration of the lots and the right of way to the water; and
WHEREAS, on August 8,2011, the Public Hearing was held and closed upon the
application; and
WHEREAS, the applicant did not submit the materials required by the Planning Board
from July 25, 2011 and the application became inactive; and
WHEREAS, on July 1, 2013, the application was re-activated by request of the
applicant and the Planning Board required revised draft deeds; and
WHEREAS, on September 23, 2013, at their work session, the Planning Board
expressed that they would deny the application if the applicant does not agree to a
covenant preventing a dock on Lot 1 due to environmental concerns; and
WHEREAS, the applicant did not submit the materials required by the Planning Board
and the application became inactive; and
WHEREAS, on September 3, 2014, the applicant sent a letter requesting that the
application be re-activated; and
WHEREAS, on September 12, 2014, the Planning Board responded to the applicant
and reiterated the findings of the September 23rd work session; and
WHEREAS, on October 1, 2014, the Planning Board sent a letter to inform the
applicant that the resubdivision application had expired and that a new application
would be required to be submitted; and
WHEREAS, on September 18, 2017, the application was permitted to be re-activated
without the submission of a new application; and
WHEREAS, on October 30, 2017, at their work session, the Planning Board agreed to
classify this action as an Unlisted Action under SEQRA and required revisions to the
draft deed and the re-subdivision map; and
WHEREAS, on December 4, 2017, the Planning Board sent the applicant a complete
list of required corrections to the map and draft deed, as required at the October 30,
2017 work session, and provided the applicant with a draft covenant and restrictions;
and
WHEREAS, on December 28, 2017, the applicant submitted a revised plan; and
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WHEREAS, on January 11, 2018, the application was referred to the Suffolk County
Planning Commission for comment; and
WHEREAS, on rJanuary 24, 2018, the Suffolk County Planning Commission responded
without comment; and
WHEREAS, on May 18, 2018, the applicant submitted a revised draft deed and draft
covenant and restriction to the Planning Department; and
WHEREAS, on June 4, 2018, the Planning Board reviewed the application and required
a Schedule A be submitted for the draft covenants and restriction; and
WHEREAS, on July 9, 2018, the Planning Board required corrections to the plan and
required a Schedule F be submitted for the extinguished part of the right-of-way; and
WHEREAS, on April 3, 2019, the applicant submitted an termination agreement for the
part of the right of way to,be extinguished, all required schedules, and revised draft
deeds; and
WHEREAS, pursuant to the resubdivision Policy set by the Planning Board in February
2011, this application is not eligible for a decision from the Planning Board prior to
receiving approval by the Suffolk County Department of Health Services (SCDHS); and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to Town Code §240-56,
Waivers of Certain Provisions, may waive certain elements of the subdivision review if
in its judgment they are not requisite in the interest of the public health, safety and
general welfare. After reviewing the information submitted for this application, the
Planning Board has determined that it is eligible for a waiver of the Environmental
Resources Site Analysis Plan (ERSAP), the Primary and Secondary Conservation Area
Plan, the public hearing, and the Sketch Plan and Preliminary Plat steps of the
subdivision process for the following reasons:
1. No new lots are being created;
2. No changes will occur as a result of this lot line change that would adversely
affect the character of the neighborhood; and
WHEREAS, pursuant to 617.5(c)(16), changes in SEQRA law effective as of January 1,
2019, lot line modifications are now classified as Type II actions,
WHEREAS, this application is EXEMPT from review by the Local Waterfront
Revitalization Program as no new development potential will come as a result of this re-
subdivision; and
WHEREAS, on April 22, 2019, the Planning Board review the application and
determined that the proposed action meets all the necessary requirements of Town
Code §240-57 for a resubdivision; and
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WHEREAS, pursuant to State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA) 6 NYCRR,
Part 617.5(c)(16) the granting of individual lot line adjustments are listed as a Type II
Action; be it therefore
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board has determined that this proposed
action is a Type II Action under SEQRA as described above;
James H. Rich 111: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Pierce, seconded by Jim. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Pierce Rafferty: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Planning Board hereby waives the requirements of Town Code
§240 to submit the ERSAP, Primary and Secondary Conservation Plans, Sketch Plan
and Preliminary Plat steps;
James H. Rich III: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Pierce, seconded by Jim. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Pierce Rafferty: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board hereby waives the requirement to
receive approval from the Suffolk County Department of Health Services prior to
approval of this re-subdivision by the Southold Town Planning Board;
James H. Rich III: Second.
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Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Pierce, seconded by Jim. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Pierce Rafferty: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grants a Conditional Final
Approval on the map entitled "Joseph Brantuk & Nancy C. Pearson," prepared by
Howard W. Young, Land Surveyor, dated November 3, 2009, and last revised May 16,
2018, with one condition:
1. File the covenant and restriction in the Office of the Suffolk County Clerk.
James H. Rich III: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Pierce, seconded by Jim. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
SITE PLANS - STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT
SEQRA Determination:
Chairman Wilcenski: Captain Reds Marine Sales Site Plan — This site plan is for the
proposed construction of a 3,680 sq. ft. metal building (ZBA file 7014) for storage (no
basement) where there exists a 1 -story 1,168 sq. ft. office building for boat sales,
storage, parking and display with 8 parking stalls on a General Business (B) and R-40
split zoned parcel totaling 1.6 acres. The property is located at 9605 Route 25
Mattituck. SCTM#1000-122-6-12
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James H. Rich III:
WHEREAS, this site plan is for the proposed construction of a 3,680 sq. ft. metal
building (ZBA file 7014) for storage (no basement) where there exists a 1 -story 1,168
sq. ft. office building for boat sales, storage, parking and display with 8 parking stalls on
a General Business (B) and R-40 split zoned parcel totaling 1.6 acres, Mattituck; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to State Environmental
Quality Review Act,(SEQRA) 6 NYCRR, Part 617, has determined that the proposed
action is an Unlisted Action as it does not meet any of the thresholds of a Type I Action,
nor does it meet any of the criteria on the Type II list of actions; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board performed a coordinated review of this Unlisted Action
pursuant to 6 NYCRR Part 617, Section 617.7 of the State Environmental Quality
Review Act (SEQRA); be it therefore
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board hereby declares Lead Agency
status for the SEQRA review of this Unlisted Action;,
Martin Sidor: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Jim, seconded by Martin. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
James H. Rich III: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board, as Lead Agency pursuant to
SEQRA, hereby makes a determination of non-significance for the proposed action and
grants a Negative Declaration.
Martin Sidor: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Jim, seconded,by Martin. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
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None.
Motion carries.
SITE PLANS
Approval Extension:
Chairman Wilcenski: Pindar Vineyards 2011 - This Site Plan is for the proposed re-
location of a 3,259 sq. ft. steel agricultural storage building from an adjacent parcel. The
building is 82' x 39', with a height of 15', and will be located 600 ft. North of NYS Rt. 25.
The property is located at 4195 Route 25, 1,132' +/- west of Peconic Lane & NYS
Route 25, Peconic. SCTM#1000-86-1-15
Martin Sidor:
WHEREAS, this Agricultural Site Plan is for the proposed relocation and construction of
a 1-story 3,259 sq. ft. building for agricultural equipment storage and no basement,
located on 70.4 acres in the AC Zoning District, where there is 7,151 sq. ft. of existing
buildings; and
WHEREAS, on July 1, 2013, the Planning Board granted approval with three (3)
conditions to the Site Plan entitled "Relocated Steel Storage Building for Pindar
Vineyards" prepared by Charles B. Southard, dated October 19, 2017; and
WHEREAS, on April 4, 2019, the applicant submitted a letter requesting an Extension
of Site Plan Approval and provided reasoning that the Approved Site Plan was
projected to be completed by the end of 2019; and
WHEREAS, at a Work Session held on May 6, 2019, the Planning Board reviewed the
application and determined that the soon to be expired Site Plan was in compliance
with current rules and regulations and granted an extension of one year to May 6, 2020;
and
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board grants an Extension of Site Plan
Approval for one (1) year from May 6, 2019 to May 6, 2020 to the Site Plan entitled
"Relocated Steel Storage Building for Pindar Vineyards" prepared by Charles B.
Southard, dated October 19, 2017.
Mary Eisenstein: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Martin, seconded by Mary. Any discussion? All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
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None.
Motion carries.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Chairman Wilcenski: 6:01 p.m. — Bing Conservation Subdivision —This proposal is
for a 75/75 split clustered Conservation Subdivision of 84.72 acres, currently existing as
two adjacent parcels, SCTM#1000-95-1-8.3 (54.24 acres) and SCTM#1000-95-1-7.2
(30.49 acres), into 8 residential lots ranging in size from 1.86 to 4.11 acres, a right of
way of 2.48 acres, and 2 agricultural lots totaling 60.38 acres from which development
rights are proposed to be sold to Suffolk County, in the AC and R-80 Zoning Districts.
The property is located at 6795 & 7755 Oregon Road, approximately 1,481 ft. west of
Duck Pond Road, in Cutchogue. SCTM#1000-95-1-7.2 & 8.3
Chairman Wilcenski: At this time if anyone would like to address the board, please
step to the podiums, write your name and state your name for the record.
Patricia Moore: Patricia Moore on behalf of the applicants, both owners of the
property. I would like to thank the board for all the hard work; it has been a long
process. The staff has been extremely helpful. The one comment I would make, I would
encourage, well, this is a significant conservation on Oregon road so it's really a very
big project. I would encourage that possibly the board considers some legislation for
conservation subdivisions so that the rules are a little fairer, particularly with respect to
roads, the road issue became a significant issue on this project and caused a
significant delay, partly because the code does not address really adequately
conservation subdivision and the improvements that are required so particularly
because they're going through ag land. So that created a lot of controversy internally,
nothing to do on the outside but it was all technical inside. So I would encourage that
some code revision, we've had conservation subdivision now on the books for maybe
10 years at least, more than that and the encouragement of doing a conservation
subdivision has been expedited review and projects that certainly would be subdivided
in less time than the standard subdivisions. This is not one of the examples and I know
we've caught up and everybody has worked very hard but it really does require some
clean-up of the code.. Now we see when the code is not clear, what stalls can be thrown
in front of the goals in conservation subdivision. So I thank you. I'm here if there are any
comments from them or anything.
Chairman Wilcenski: Okay, while Pat's at he podium, do any board member or staff
members have any questions for Pat? No? Thank you. Would anybody else like to
address the board on Bing Conservation Subdivision? Anyone? Seeing none, I ask for
a motion to close the hearing.
James H. Rich III: I make a motion to close the hearing.
Pierce Rafferty: Second.
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Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Jim, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Chairman Wilcenski: Now Martin, I'll ask you to start your motions.
Martin Sidor:
WHEREAS, This proposal is for a 75/75 split clustered Conservation Subdivision of
84.72 acres, currently existing as two adjacent parcels, SCTM#1000-95-1-8.3 (54.24
acres) and SCTM#1000-95-1-7.2 (30.49 acres), into 8 residential lots ranging in size
from 1.86 to 4.11 acres, a right of way of 2.48 acres, and 2 agricultural lots totaling
60.38 acres from which development rights are proposed to be sold to Suffolk County,
in the AC and R-80 zoning districts; and
WHEREAS, this application is a reduced density conservation subdivision with a split
cluster design with a permissible yield of 10 lots; and
WHEREAS, on August 3, 2017, the Southold Board of Trustees submitted a letter
verifying the top of bluff from their March 16, 2017 inspection to the Planning Board and
indicated that the line on the Sketch Plan dated November 7, 2016 accurately reflects
the top of bluff with the exception of one area on Lot 6 where the line is to be moved to
54' contour; and
WHEREAS, on August 8, 2017 that the Southold Town Planning Board granted
Conditional Sketch Plan Approval upon the map entitled 75/75 Clustered
Conservation Subdivision Big Bing", dated January 18, 2016 and last revised June 14,
2017, prepared by David H. Fox, Licensed Land Surveyor, with five conditions, all,of
which were met; and
WHEREAS, in a December 28, 2018 letter the Town of Southold Superintendent of
Highways, pursuant to Chapter 161 Highway Specifications Article lll. Roadway
Construction § 161-15. Construction specifications, A, Footnote 5, approved the
reduction of the required 50' right of way to 30' in width with a 26' wide load bearing
surface; and
WHEREAS, on March 8, 2019 the Final Plat application was submitted;
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WHEREAS, on March 25, 2019, the Planning Board reviewed the Final Plat application
at their Work Session and found the application Complete; and
WHEREAS, on May 6, 2019 a Final Plat Public Hearing was held and closed on the
final plat entitled "Final Road and Drainage Prepared for: Big Bing" prepared by David
H. Fox, Land Surveyor dated October 26, 2017 and last revised January 22, 2019; and
WHEREAS, a their April 8, 2019 work session the Planning board agreed to accept the
road name of"Oregon Close"; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board, as Lead Agency, performed a coordinated review of
this Unlisted Action pursuant to 6 NYCRR Part 617, Section 617.7 of the State
Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA);,.and
WHEREAS, the practice of the Planning Board with regard to beach access over the
bluff for new lots on the Long Island Sound shore has been to allow only a single
shared access for all lots; and
WHEREAS, in consideration of the residential density on this property being reduced by
the applicant agreeing to a conservation subdivision, and then further reduced by the
applicant proposing only 8 residential lots where 10 would be allowed, the Planning
Board has agreed to allow one access for each of the three waterfront lots, and one for
the remaining lots in the subdivision; and
WHEREAS, at their March 25, 2019 work session the Planning Board,found that the
proposed subdivision plat presents a proper case for requiring a park suitably located
for recreational purposes, but that a suitable park cannot be properly located due to the
location of the parcel, active agriculture use and the proposed sale of development
rights; and
WHEREAS, Southold Town Code §240-53 G establishes a fee to be paid in lieu of
providing a park within the subdivision, and the required fee is $3,500.00 per new lot
created; and
WHEREAS, the Southold Town Planning Board, pursuant to Town Code §240-56,
Waivers of Certain Provisions, shall have the authority to modify or waive, subject to
appropriate conditions, any provision of these subdivision regulations, if in its judgment
they are not requisite in the interest of the public health, safety and general welfare,
may waive any provision of the subdivision regulations if in its judgment they are not
requisite in the interest of the public health, safety and general welfare. After reviewing
the information submitted for this application, the Planning Board has determined'that
due to the following reasons it is eligible for the following waivers;
3. Environmental Resources Site Analysis Plan (ERSAP) and the Primary and
Secondary Conservation Area Plan - Since the subdivision is a conservation
subdivision, the parcels contain large areas in active agriculture upon which the
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landowner proposes to sell development rights to Suffolk County and the
unbuildable area is limited to the Coastal Erosion Hazard Area, the design of the
subdivision did not require these plans.
4. Clearing Limits on Lots 1, 4, 5, 9 and 10. These lots are cleared or mostly
cleared, in agricultural use or located within close proximity to active agriculture.
Lots 4 and 10 are required to install a landscaped buffer and the remaining lots
are expected to be landscaped; and
5. Town Code § 240-49 1 (2). Street trees on Lots 1, 2 and 3 can be waived due to
potential conflicts with current and future agricultural operations and practices;
and
WHEREAS, at their work session on May 6, 2019, the Planning Board found, pursuant
to § 240-49 1 (4) of the Town Code, that the proposed subdivision presents a proper
case for requiring street trees on lots 4, 5, 7, 9, and 10 to be planted for screening or
landscaping purposes, but that a suitable location for said plantings does not exist, or it
is otherwise impracticable due to;
1. The street trees potentially conflicting with current or future agricultural use
and practices; and
2. A public benefit will not be achieved by the planting of street trees on Lots 4,
5, 7, 9 and 10. The lots are on a private street and are located greater than
2,000 feet from a public street (Oregon Road); and
3. Screening and landscaping is expected to be achieved on Lots 4, 5, 7, 9 and
10 through landscaping installed by the future lot owners; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Board has agreed to allow the applicant to pay a sum of
money in lieu thereof in the amount of $350.00 per street tree or $8050.00; be it
therefore
RESOLVED, pursuant to Town Code §240-56, Waivers of Certain Provisions the
Planning Board hereby waives § 240-49 1 (4) of the Town Code regarding street trees
on Lots 1, 2 and 3 due to potential conflicts with current and future agricultural
operations and practices;
Mary Eisenstein: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Martin, seconded by Mary. Any discussion? All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
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Motion carries.
Martin Sidor: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Planning Board hereby waives the requirements of Town Code
§240 to submit the ERSAP, Primary and Secondary Conservation Plans and clearing
limits on lots 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 9, and 10;
Mary Eisenstein: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Martin,, seconded by Mary. Any discussion? All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
r
Motion carries.
Martin Sidor: And be it further
RESOLVED, the Planning Board, pursuant to SEQRA, makes a determination of non-
significance for the proposed action and grants a Negative Declaration;
Mary Eisenstein: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Martin, seconded by Mary. Any discussion? All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Martin Sidor: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board, as described above, hereby finds
that the proposed subdivision plat presents a proper case for requiring a park suitably
located for recreational purposes, but that a suitable park cannot be properly located on
such subdivision plat, and that the Planning Board will require a Park and Playground
fee in the amount of $21,000.00 in lieu thereof;
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Mary Eisenstein: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Martin, seconded by Mary. Any discussion? All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Martin Sidor: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Planning Board determines that this proposed action is consistent
with the policies of the Town of Southold Local Waterfront Revitalization Program;
Mary Eisenstein: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Martin, seconded by Mary. Any discussion? All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Martin Sidor: And be it further
RESOLVED, that the Southold Town Planning Board hereby grants Conditional Final
Plat Approval upon the map entitled "Final Road and Drainage Prepared for: Big Bing"
prepared by David H. Fox, Land Surveyor dated October 26, 2017 and last revised
January 22, 2019 with the following conditions:
1. Revise the plat entitled "Final Road and Drainage Prepared for: Big Bing" as follows
to produce the Final Plat:
i. Title the final plat " Final Plat Clustered Conservation Subdivision of
Big Bing"
ii. Correct the discrepancy in the 75/75 Conservation Subdivision
Calculations and Site Data tables for the acreage shown for the
"Buildable Area". The numbers do not match.
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iii. Show the right of way ownership divided between lots 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9,
and 10.
iv. Show clearing limits on Lots 6, 7, and 8. Include the non-disturbance
and'vegetative buffers to account for meeting the minimum percentage
of clearing limits required. The Planning Board is waiving the clearing-
limits on lots 1, 4, 5, 9 and 10. Please remove the notation on the plat.
v. Amend the building envelopes on lots 6, 7 and 8 by adjusting them
south 20' feet landward of the southern boundary of the vegetated
buffer line. Structures are not permitted in this area. Ground
disturbance is prohibited within this area except for the establishment
of lawn areas, landscaping or the installation of subsurface storm
water controls.
vi. Show a 50' wide landscape buffer on lots 4 and 10 beginning at the
southern property lines.
vii. Include the notation "Area of Development Rights Sold" on Lots 2 and
3.
viii. Label the 10' width for each beach access.
ix. Amend and label the width of the flags on Lots 6 and 8. The width of
the flags measure 20' in width and 25' is required.
X. Label the Key Map.
A. Show locations of property monuments delineating each lot and the
right of way. Additionally, show locations where stakes are to be
installed at the landward limit of buffers or structure areas prior to
clearing.
xii. Add covenants and restrictions and any other conditions of approval to
the Final Plat.
2. Revise the Final Road and Drainage Plan entitled "Final Road and Drainage
Prepared for: Big Bing" prepared by David H. Fox, Land Surveyor dated October 26,
2017 and last revised January 22, 2019 as follows:
i. Amend the French drain design to end at the southern boundary lines
of lots 4 and 10. Show conventional drainage systems to address the
storm water runoff from the, road north of the southern lot boundary
lines.
ii. Show how the French drain system will be protected from silt and
debris. No fine materials will be permitted to intermix with the French
drain stone.
iii. Show the cull-de-sac with a minimum outside pavement diameter
width of 88'. This would not include the 5' width of grass.
iv. The curb cut access to Oregon Road must meet the Highway
Specification without substituting Oil & Stone for the top course. Any
stone or concrete curb cut designs should begin at the property line
and extend into the subdivision.
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3. Provide correspondence from New York Department of Environmental,Conservation
that a SWPPP is, or is not required for the action.
4. 'All future homes are required to use the Innovative/Alternative On-site Wastewater
Treatment Systems (I/AOWTS).
5. Irrigation on lots 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 is limited to 15 percent of the total lot area.'
6. Obtain approval from the Suffolk County Department of Health Services on the Final
Plat (with the required Innovative/Alternative On-site Wastewater Treatment
Systems (I/AOWTS).
7. File the Covenants and Restrictions after review and 'approval by the Planning
Board, with the Suffolk County Clerk's Office and submit proof of filing to the
Planning Board. Draft covenants will be provided by the Planning Board for your
review and additions or requested edits, and must be submitted back to the
Planning Board in draft form for final review and written approval before filing.
8. Submit the park and playground fee in the amount of $21,000.00.
9. Submit a street tree fee in the amount of$8,050.00, (23-trees x $350.00 each).
10.Submit a draft bond estimate.
11.Upon approval of the draft bond by the Town Board, submit a performance
guarantee as outlined in Town Code § 240-34. Forms of security; expiration and
terms of bonds; default of the Southold Town Code.
12.Submit the Administration Fee, calculated as 6% of the total bond amount (to be
determined).
13.Provide proof of the sale of development rights to Suffolk County.
14.Confirm that the Final Plat is legible for filing at the Office of the Suffolk County
Clerk.
15.Meet all Chapter 240 Subdivision of Land Article VII, Final Plat Review §240-21,
Technical Requirements.
Mary Eisenstein: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Martin, seconded by Mary. Any discussion? All
in favor?
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Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
HEARING HELD OVER
Chairman Wilcenski: Hound Lane Restaurant—This site plan is for the proposed
conversion of an existing 2,815 sq. ft. building into a restaurant on the first floor, the
construction of a 2,329 sq. ft. second story addition for two apartments (ZBA file
#7237), twenty-six parking spaces and an existing 280 sq. ft. accessory building to
remain for dry storage all on .46 acres in the B Zoning District. SCTM#1000-12-1-7.1
Chairman Wilcenski: At this time I would like to ask that anyone who would like to
address the board would step to the podium, state your name, write your name for the
record and address your comments to the board. Thank you.
Michael Schiano: I'm Michael Schiano from InterScience Research Associates on
behalf of the applicant. I have a number of alternatives, can I go through them?
Heather Lanza: Yes.
Michael Schiano: Okay. Prior to the previous public hearing, we had submitted several
alternative architectural renderings in attempt to address or just as an alternative to
some of the comments that were provided by the Architectural Review Committee. We
went to the Architectural Review Committee before we actually came to the Planning
Board because the Zoning Board of Appeals, as a part of their review, had referred that
application to them. So then they issued a series of comments and so the renderings _
that we submitted, potentially on the day of the hearing last month, were meant to
address those. I'm just going to set those up.
Chairman Wilcenski: Okay.
Heather Lanza: Could you hear any of that?
Meredith Doyen: We can hear but it's pretty muffled.
Heather Lanza: Okay.
Chairman Wilcenski: Okay. I think we're going to go through with Mr. Schiano's
presentation and then you guys will get a transcript of tonight's meeting. Is that fair?
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Meredith Doyen: That sounds good.
Chairman Wilcenski: Okay. Thank you. Just bear with us, he's setting up some
photographs. I think we cari take pictures and send them over.
Heather Lanza: We will. They're on Laserfiche too.
Chairman Wilcenski: The renderings are also available on Laserfiche.
Meredith Doyen: So we can understand, what is,the timeline? What's the next step?
Heather Lanza: I had sent that to you.
Chairman Wilcenski: Okay, great. Thank you, Heather. Okay, Mr. Schiano, you're up.
Michael Schiano: Okay. Yes. So first, I just want to mention that the sole member of
Hound Lane LLC and the owner of the property, Mark Holzner. He has owned a
residential property on Fishers Island for more than 10 years and 'he's striving to be an
active member of the community. He hopes that the new restaurant that we're
proposing will be an asset to the people that live on the island and with that said, in an
attempt to address some of the town and community concerns, I'm here to discuss a
number of alternatives. The minutes from the meeting of the Architectural Review
Committee were summarized into five bullet points in a memo that they had issued.
However, Mark Holzner, his architect, David Noe and I had an opportunity to discuss a
number of their concerns at the meeting itself and so some of the changes that we
made were based on those actual conversations. For example, while it was not
mentioned in their written comments, one of the suggestions of the ARC was to make
the roof line of the central dormer contiguous across the board. So on the original
rendering the two dormers were separate and so in all of the alternatives, we've brought
the dormer completely contiguous across, which matches more of a contiguous roof
line on the existing building. Also, the third comment from the ARC suggests the
committee's preference is to "continue the existing brickwork with matching brick and
mortar and sympathetically detailed course work" but at the meeting, they had two other
suggestions besides continuing the brick, the first was to rotate the corrugated ,metal
siding to run horizontally where the - previously, the initial rendering was proposed
vertical corrugated metal which kind of gave an optical illusion of the building being
much taller than it would actually be. In actuality, we're only proposing to add 7 feet
onto the height of the building. Where these renderings made it look like we were
proposing a much larger second story addition. The other suggestion from them was to
replace the metal siding with stone or concrete so a number of the alternatives are
essentially showing just the different types of facades-that we have presented to
address the comments from the-ARC. All three of the material options. brick, metal and
stone, would blend in with the local industrial character of the area and would help to
blend that with the actual historic structure itself. Each of these options are reflected in
one or more alternatives. Mark Polzner and David Noe believe that using the brick may
not be the best option because the brick that would be used would not match the
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character of the existing aged brick and may look out of place. Regardless, they are still
willing to do that if need arises. So we'll start by going through the alternatives
specifically. All of these on the boards are essentially the exact same ones that are
submitted but I've provided you with the original one on top so you can compare them
side-by-side a little bit more easily and also I tried to make them look , the width of the
building in these is the same where if you look at all of the ones that were printed out it
varies because David tried to include more or less of the surrounding area so the
framing winds up being off when you compare them, it just looks a little bit off, but in
these, I tried-to make it look a little bit more like, that you can actually compare them.
So with the first alternative we kept the same roof design except for having the roof line
contiguous here and we just changed the material, we revised the siding and we also
added some windows to kind of break up the contiguous siding here. One of the other
comments that the Architectural Review Committee had made was that they wanted to
see a stone band that would separate the existing brick from the proposed second story
so all of the alternatives also have that, kind of band here that runs across where the
original one just faded from the bricking to what the second story was. Alternative two
was essentially identical in structural design from the alternative one except that we are
not proposing the brick in this one, it will probably be a single course of brick to provide
a fagade of it being a completely brick structure, so other than that the roof design is
exactly the same and the windows design is also the same. Alternatives three, four and
five address a comment from the ARC which requested that the project be more
respectful of the existing hip-roof structure, as such, all of the designs from three, four
and five provided hip-roof design. In alternative three, we show the horizontal
corrugated metal siding which is a material from a company called ATAS, that makes
this corrugated metal siding called Metafor, the color was more of like a slate grey. So it
wasn't necessarily ever going to be the white color that is shown in the original
rendering, so when David made these new renderings, he tried to actually incorporate
the color that they would actually be instead of just providing samples to the ARC.
David felt that the horizontal siding did kind -of give it more of an appearance of not
being as tall and,this is the architects preferred alternative while the owner doesn't
necessarily have one but in discussing it,with him, he has leaned more towards the later
alternatives that I'll discuss in a minute and probably the brick alternative, alternative
two with the original roof with the brick fagade outside. Alternative four-has the stone
fagade with the hip-roof. Alternative five has the brick fagade on the second story with
the hip-roof. In the final comment from the Architectural Review Committee, they
recommended reducing parking and paved surfaces while increasing permeable
landscaped areas in order to better abate storm water. As mentioned in'my
presentation at the last public meeting, we believe that it was more important to provide
the code-required number of off-street parking spaces then it was to necessarily meet
the Town's landscape areas requirement, which is why we had asked for a variance for
the landscaped areas. Plus, the surrounding area is mostly vegetation on the west,
south and east side of the property, so it would kind of blend that in, but with that said,
we can definitely provide a pervious material on the driveway to offset any assumed
storm water issues. However, alternative six and seven suggest another potential
approach that include a green roof, but it is kind of a drastic change from what we were
trying to do in these other ones. Now the view of these two renderings is different
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because he was trying to show off the green roof which pitches completely on the
backside of the building. You would keep the historic chimney that's there but the roof
would be a green roof and that has the potential to reduce storm water runoff by 50%
and there's obviously other benefits to-that but you lose a lot of the character as a result
of that. Alternative six has the brick and Alternative seven has the stone fagade on it. I
hope that these alternatives and the accompanying explanation will help the Planning
Board and the public see that Mark and the design team are willing to adjust some of
the aspects of the project. However, I would just like to end this presentation by saying
that housing is an important issue on Fishers Island, and we believe that removing the
second floor apartments, which is something that was mentioned in the most recent
comments from the ARC, would be a mistake from a long-term planning perspective as
it would reduce the number of parking spaces available and increase coverage but also,
in general, adding a second story with the apartments would provide housing and that's
in the best interest of the island. Thank you.
Chairman Wilcenski: Thank you-very much. Does any staff or Board Members have
any questions for Mr. Schiano at this point?
Mary Eisenstein: A clarification: the Architectural Review Committee recommended no
apartments? Is'that correct? Did you say that?
Michael Schiano: I apologize, no. They recommended that we don't put a second story -
on it. What they recommended, in their most recent comments maybe because the
most recent, actually, hold on one second... "Prior comments by the ARC are not
adequately addressed by the submission, although two of the proposed elevations no
'longer indicate metal siding, these all brickwork elevations still do not substantially
address the earlier comments concerning historic proportion, massing and roof plans. It
is suggested that it may be more appropriate to locate an addition at the rear of the
building as an alternative to changing the height and roof lines of the existing historic
structure." So that was me misspeaking, I apologize.
Chairman Wilcenski: Thank you for that clarification. Does anybody else have any
comments or questions?
Pierce Rafferty: I'd like to ask: I know I've been asked-a number of times what the
status was or if whether anyone was applying for a liquor license. Has that gone any
further or do you have any news about that issue?
Michael Schiano: I don't have any additional news on that issue. I know that his
intensions were to apply for one and then it would be up to the New York State Liquor
Authority to tell him whether he can or could not get one. I know there are certain
requirements as to the "as the'bird flies" distance to a school entrances as opposed to
there being a specific setback or buffer requirement. It's actually, how far can someone
walk in order to get to a place where there is a liquor license or a bar So having the
liquor license may not necessarily, as long as they don't have a separate bar, just a bar
where liquor is served, that also changes how the requirements are read. But
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specifically, right now, we are still waiting to hear more from this Board and from the
Zoning Board before we even start to approach any of that.
Chairman Wilcenski: Okay. Anybody else? Brian?
Brian Cummings: No, that was it.
Chairman Wilcenski: That was it? Okay. Thank you. Does anybody else have any
questions? Does anyone over on Fishers Island have anything to say?
Meredith Doyen: We're good! Two or three people that were here had sent those
letters in so they felt like they were good.
Chairman Wilcenski: Okay, so would you like to add anything to the record?
Meredith Doyen: No, we'll just wait to see the new pictures. I think that's what people
are interested in.
Chairman Wilcenski: Okay. They are on the Laserfiche�on the website but we'll make
sure that we send them over. Maybe Pierce will bring them back over.
Meredith Doyen: Perfect. Thank you.
Chairman Wilcenski: Thank you very much. Okay, with that, I'd like to see if I can get
a motion to adjourn the hearing to a later date, to be determined.
Martin Sidor: So moved.
Mary Eisenstein: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Martin, seconded by Mary. Any discussion? All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
APPROVAL OF PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
Chairman Wilcenski: We need a motion to approve the board minutes from:
• April 8, 2019
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• April 22, 2019
Martin Sidor: So moved.
Mary Eisenstein: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Martin, seconded by Mary. Any discussion? All
in favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
Chairman Wilcenski: We need a motion for adjournment.
James H. Rich III: I'd like to make a motion for adjournment.
Pierce Rafferty: Second.
Chairman Wilcenski: Motion made by Jim, seconded by Pierce. Any discussion? All in
favor?
Ayes.
Opposed?
None.
Motion carries.
There being no further business to come before the Board, the meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
Jessica Michaelis
Transcribing Secretary
Donald J. Wilcenski, Chairman